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She retired and lost her way. Listen in as Cathy and Merry chat with Kim Mosiman about her inspiring journey from restaurant owner to fitness guru, certified nutritionist and wellness coach,. Discover how Kim turned her life around, opened a gym, and penned her award-winning book, Reflections of Joy. She shares her secrets to sustainable fitness, self-worth, and overcoming self-imposed limitations. Get ready to be inspired to embrace your middle years with joy and purpose. Tune in for a dose of motivation that could change your life!

Kim Mosiman's Bio:
Kim Mosiman is a loving wife, mom, and grandma. As an author and coach, Kim specializes in empowering women embarking on their "second act." With her faith-driven approach and experience as a gym owner, Kim offers a unique blend of spiritual and physical wellness. Her book, "Reflections of Joy," provides practical, faith-infused strategies to inspire strength, beauty, and holistic growth in every aspect of life.

Connect with Kim:
Website: https://www.kimmosimanwellness.com
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/kim.mosiman/
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/kim_mosiman/
Monthly Reflection Tool: www.kimmosimanwellness.com/offers

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What is Late Boomers?

Welcome to Late Boomers, the podcast that is your guide to creating a third act with style, power and impact! Join your hosts, Cathy Worthington and Merry Elkins, as they bring you conversations with successful artists, entrepreneurs and entertainers who have set themselves up for an amazing third act. Everyone has a story, and Cathy and Merry take you along for the ride on each interview, recounting the journey each guest has taken to get where they are, and inspiring you to create a path to success as you look toward your own third act!

Merry:

This is the EWN podcast network.

Cathy:

Hello. It's Cathy Worthington.

Merry:

And Merry Elkins.

Cathy:

Welcome to season 5 and our 5th year of the Late Boomers podcast.

Merry:

We will be bringing you exciting new interviews with guests you won't wanna miss.

Cathy:

Come along for our new journey.

Merry:

We hope you enjoy Late Boomers.

Cathy:

Welcome to late boomers, our podcast guide to creating your 3rd act with style, power, and impact. Hi. I'm Cathy Worthington.

Merry:

And I'm Mary Elkins. Join us as we bring you conversations with successful entrepreneurs, entertainers, and people with vision who are making a difference in the world.

Cathy:

Everyone has a story and we'll take you along for the ride on each interview, recounting the journey our guests have taken to get where they are, inspiring you to create your own path to success. Let's get started.

Cathy:

Hello. I'm Cathy Worthington. Welcome to our 5th season of late boomers. Today, our special guest is Kim Mozelmann, certified nutritionist, author, wellness, and Christian life coach and personal trainer.

Merry:

And I'm Merry Elkins. Her book published in 2024 titled Reflections of Joy, Learning to Love the Woman You See While Becoming the 1 You're Meant to Be. I love that title. It's a Chris Christlet award winner, which has helped and the book has helped women entering their second act explore the world of opportunities available to them in their middle years. Let's find out more about her journey and get some health tips.

Merry:

Welcome, Kim.

Kim Mosiman:

Thank you. I'm so excited to be here.

Merry:

We're excited to have you.

Cathy:

Please tell us about your background, Kim, and your struggles and how they led you to the path you're on today.

Kim Mosiman:

Well, I started out in the food industry. My husband and I owned restaurants for a long time. And after several years of working together and raising children together, I kinda felt like I needed something of my own. And so, I started on a wellness journey. I just felt mushy and unhappy with myself, And I started going to the gym and I caught the fitness bug.

Kim Mosiman:

After a couple of years and with the blessing of all of my guys, I opened up a gym of my own. And there, I worked with people, in 9 week intervals. People would come to us, take a picture, join a little competition, learn how to eat and exercise. And usually, they had a big goal in mind. Maybe a wedding, maybe a diagnosis, maybe a class reunion.

Kim Mosiman:

And so I spent 7 wonderful years coaching people and helping them go from someone they maybe didn't want to be to someone they loved to be. My husband's my husband's job slowed down, and I didn't think it was fair that he was traveling the world and I was still going to work at 3 o'clock in the morning. So I closed my gym and found myself in the odd position of not being needed anymore. My children were gone, my clients were gone, and my husband's work picked back up again. And, I really kind of became my client.

Kim Mosiman:

I gained a lot of weight, didn't have much. I think I had purpose, but I didn't know what that purpose was. And, I just became my own worst client. And so yeah. There we are.

Merry:

Wow. Yeah. But but that doesn't

Cathy:

take us to where you are today. So update our list.

Merry:

It doesn't. Yeah.

Cathy:

So how'd you get to where you are now?

Kim Mosiman:

Right. I'm a I'm a writer and a journaler. And one day, I was scrolling along, bemoaning my terrible existence so it wasn't really very terrible. And I turned the page and, up at the top of the page, there was scripture that said, you are all together beautiful, my love. There is no flaw in you from the Song of Solomon.

Kim Mosiman:

And it hit at the right time and in the right frame of mind, and I started to cry. And I realized how horribly I had been treating myself that I I was doing all the things that I coached other people to not do when I owned the gym.

Merry:

I I hear you. You know, you do on that note, you talk a lot about, when women of a certain age or perhaps any age look in the mirror in the mirror and they go, ugh. Ugh. Yes. Yes.

Cathy:

And,

Merry:

we all do it at one time or another. And so what do you say to your clients about recognizing themselves as worthy people, as beautiful people, no matter how old they are or, what they look like?

Kim Mosiman:

We are always beautiful. We all I mean, it it took it took that little moment for me to turn things around and start spending a little bit more time focusing on the good in myself. And, I was talking to a friend just the other day, and and it's not as easy as putting a little note up on the mirror that says you are beautiful. We can do that. And I think affirmations are important, but you have to look for the beauty and you have to believe it.

Kim Mosiman:

And so I spent a lot of time looking for the things that I love about myself, and I have those things. I have a list of things I love, and I have a list of things I'd like to change. And, I try to make sure that the love list is the bigger of the 2. Right. And I've just started working just started working on the things I'd like to change.

Cathy:

That's a gradual process. I'm sure it takes time to make it start to happen. But based on your experience with personal training, how hard would you say it is to get into shape and be in good health? Can you give us a few tips?

Kim Mosiman:

I I think a person just has to start, and anyone can begin to get in better shape. The the problem that I saw physically. Yes. Yes. The problem that I discovered with myself and with my clients is that we remember what it was like when we were 20, and we remember how easy it is to maybe let things go, but then to rebound.

Kim Mosiman:

And life is not like that when you get older. And so what I encouraged all of my clients to do and what I started doing myself is taking that first step, just that first step. And for someone who's terribly deconditioned, the first step might be just walking to the mailbox and back again. And then tomorrow, maybe you go twice, and the next day, again. We have to take those little steps, and we have to build our strength and build the good things that are going on in our life and then expand on them.

Kim Mosiman:

We're we're for me, life is too short to not like what I'm doing or to be uncomfortable with what I'm doing or to hurt myself trying to get to a place. So I've tried to find good sustainable fitness and good sustainable health.

Merry:

I love that. Well, you're the mother of 2 boys, grown and grandbabies.

Kim Mosiman:

Yes.

Merry:

What would you say to the woman who sounds like yourself when you were getting up at 3 AM in the morning? What would you say to this woman who says she doesn't have time to cook healthy food or exercise or work on her health? That's And then how does she get the family on board?

Kim Mosiman:

Right. I would tell her we have time for the things that we want to have time for. Once upon a time, we lived without these crazy phones, and we lived without computers, and everything was by hand or or, heaven forbid, a a calculator or an adding machine or whatever the case may be. And yet we seem to have more time then. So I would tell the woman who doesn't have time to maybe take a look at her life and where she's spending time.

Kim Mosiman:

Go ahead and stop working, when when the workday is over. Spend time with your family. Maybe get up a little bit earlier when the kids aren't aren't nipping at your heels for every little thing and exercise then or right then. And I would also tell someone to to, I'm not a planner in the kitchen, but I am a prepper. So when I cook, I cook extra.

Kim Mosiman:

I try to plan ahead. We don't do planned leftovers because my boys didn't like leftovers, but I repurpose the things that I cook into something new.

Merry:

Mhmm.

Kim Mosiman:

And, that's something I tried to teach my clients is cook once, eat twice, but make sure it's fun and exciting the second time.

Cathy:

That's a great idea because they all, like, dread those That is. Leftover things in the fridge. You you pull them out 2 days later, and you go, do I really want this again? Because a lot of times you don't. And then it Yeah.

Cathy:

Then you're most people are gonna grab something less healthy, let's say, or less planned Yes. Than the original meal. So

Merry:

Yeah.

Cathy:

That's a real good tip. But what about the family? How do you

Merry:

do you

Cathy:

do you try to incorporate with the family the exercise program or or the you know, so that you're modeling that for them?

Kim Mosiman:

Well, we tried to my boys were very busy. And so a lot of after a hard day at work, I wanted nothing more than to sit in my car and maybe read a good book, but I didn't do that. When the kids were busy, I there's a girlfriend up in the car in front of me who's waiting for their kids too. So we'd jump out and we would walk while the boys were playing soccer or at football practice. There's always and I find it's more fun to exercise with a friend.

Kim Mosiman:

It's just it it makes it feel like it's not exercise. You know, when I was busy, I didn't always make it to the gym, but I always made it outside. Sundays, we would you know, Saturdays Sundays, we would spend time with the kids and, just try to incorporate things that you could do together.

Merry:

Mhmm. Yeah. And and you I you you you taught them how to even though they're boys, because boys don't think like girls when they look in the mirror, but you'd still gave them that reinforcement to think of themselves as valuable and worthy.

Kim Mosiman:

I tried to, and I also tried to teach them how to treat their wives and how to look at their wives and love their wives.

Merry:

Well, that's important.

Kim Mosiman:

Yes. I I believe it is. So yeah.

Cathy:

Yeah. Because I think it's something we something people raising voice don't always think about that. They don't think, like, how to turn this man loose on the world. Like, how is he gonna present? How is he gonna treat people?

Cathy:

Exactly. His wife his wife in his house. But as a wellness coach and a middle aged woman, which daily habits have become nonnegotiable for you?

Kim Mosiman:

I wake up every morning and I do exactly the same thing. No matter whether I'm at home or whether I'm on vacation, I wake up, I drink a glass of water, I brew a great cup of coffee, and then I sit and I write for 30 minutes every day.

Merry:

And I don't write you.

Kim Mosiman:

Yes. I don't write though for purpose. It's not when I created my book. I write to empty out all of the distractions or the dreams or the ideas. So then I have I feel like I have a better capacity to, to pray or to meditate.

Kim Mosiman:

My mind is quieter. Sometimes really great ideas pop in there, and and they might spur a writing event later on. I just and then after I'm I finished writing, I usually go for a walk, and that's when I spend my time praying. It seems when I'm in my house, I can be distracted or there's always something to do. But when I'm outside, I don't put my earbuds in.

Kim Mosiman:

I don't listen to music or podcasts. That's my time for myself and for God. And, then then when I get home, I have the whole day in front of me to do the things that I have to do.

Merry:

You still get up at 3 AM?

Kim Mosiman:

No, ma'am. I don't. I, you know, I I try not to set an alarm, but usually, I wake up on my own around 5:30.

Merry:

That's early. Yeah. I I do the same thing every morning. I as well, I before I get out of bed, I do some stretches and exercises. And then my nonnegotiable is I have to walk every morning, and I do the same thing you do.

Merry:

I don't listen to music. I listen to the birds. Mhmm. And I walk my dog every morning, whether it's raining, snowing, although it doesn't snow here in LA. But, Yeah.

Merry:

But I I do a similar something.

Cathy:

I waited I I I just wanna put in 2ยข. I, I do a similar thing too. When I first wake up, I meditate. It's that's nonnegotiable because I back up whatever time I have to be somewhere. I back it up so I have an extra 20 to 30 minutes to meditate.

Cathy:

And then and once I'm ready to leave the house, I I go walking with a group of neighbors. We've got this walking group that's out 7 days a week, and it's really wonderful. I I kind of urge people if you have anybody in your neighborhood that might walk with you, it's really a good thing. It keeps you you do much more distance that way. We go around.

Cathy:

If I were just doing it by myself, I I'd stop way before way before. Mhmm.

Merry:

It's good to have support. I have a dog. I have a dog. We have to walk at least a mile and a quarter every morning and a mile and a quarter at night. And I know exactly the place in my neighborhood where it's where I can stop and turn around.

Merry:

And that's that's that's a wonderful meditation period too. Yeah. Yeah. Mhmm.

Cathy:

Yeah. For sure.

Kim Mosiman:

The best thing about both of you is you have someone counting on you. You can't say no when someone's counting on you. And that's the other thing. If a person hasn't been exercising or is ready to change, it's always great to grab a girlfriend or a husband or someone. Yeah.

Kim Mosiman:

A dog. Someone who who's not gonna let you off. You know? And I when I started my fitness journey back when my kids were still at home, I signed up for a program with a girlfriend because I was not going to leave her sitting in my driveway in a car at 5 o'clock in the morning waiting for me to go find my workout clothes. You know, I was up and ready to go.

Cathy:

Good for you. That's discipline. A solution.

Merry:

That is discipline. So, we all have our hang ups. And how do our own hang ups limit our ability to live an abundant life?

Kim Mosiman:

Oh, I think we're our own worst critics. And when I had the gym, I always ask people when they first came in, I asked them to name 3 things that they loved about themselves. And often, women would well, often, everyone, men and women, would leave that particular question blank. And it always it bothers me that we can't identify the good in us or or the worth in ourselves, and we don't use that to spur us on to become better and better and better. Our hang ups, I think, we create them.

Kim Mosiman:

No one is no one's placing these things on us, and and we allow these these self limiting beliefs about ourselves to determine how we live our lives. And so, my particular hang ups, you know, I've had many in my life. I can't go to church because I don't know enough about the Bible. Right? I'm gonna look like a fool, or I can't go to a book study because, gosh, I didn't read the chapter.

Kim Mosiman:

I can't join the gym because I'm too big and people will make fun of me. All of those things that we tell ourselves, it's very unlikely that anyone else thinks that in our world. And so, like with most things, whether it's good eating, exercise, going out and doing something new, or or starting a new career in your second act, If it's if there's a thought or an idea or an inkling to do it, I think you should just take the first step.

Merry:

I love that.

Kim Mosiman:

Just begin.

Merry:

Yeah. I love that. But, you know, sometimes people don't even know what's good about themselves. They just go through life. And do you have you worked with people who are that way?

Merry:

And how do you tell them to find the beauty in themselves?

Kim Mosiman:

Tell them to ask someone else. There's an exercise in my book, and I call it Wells and Betters, and we start there. When a person can say, I love this about me, we start with Wells and Betters, and I have them look at themselves in the mirror, really look, and name the things that they love about themselves. For me, I love my eyes. I love them all the time.

Kim Mosiman:

You know, they're the one gift that my dad gave me that I would never give back.

Merry:

They're they're blue. For our listeners, they're blue and they're they're beautiful.

Kim Mosiman:

Yes. Thank you. Yes. Thank you.

Merry:

And your smile?

Kim Mosiman:

Yeah. I love my smile too. There was a time I didn't, but, you know, I I had some injury when I was a child, and I used to not like my smile. And it became a priority to me, something I wanted to change and make me happy again. If I gain weight and then lose weight or or whatever the case may be, my legs.

Kim Mosiman:

You know, I was blessed with great legs no matter what I weigh. I love that about me. But then after I make that list of things that I love about me, I also have a list of things that I would like to change and things that I'd like to be different. And so doesn't mean that I'm a bad person, doesn't offset the good. The good always offsets the bad.

Kim Mosiman:

So maybe I just need to make a plan to change those things that I'm not happy with. Same way with a career. You know, we've we've reached a point in our lives. I'm not washed up. You know?

Kim Mosiman:

I've got I I gosh. I hope I've got many years ahead of me. So what can I do? I could write a book. I could start a podcast.

Kim Mosiman:

I could learn photography. I could go back to school if I really wanted to. I told my husband I don't ever wanna have to justify a college education or more school by getting a job because he would expect me to get a real job. But it's just we are at such an incredible time in our lives where there are no limits, and quite often, there's not a lot of pressures. So why not just move forward and do something new and exciting?

Cathy:

Yeah. Well, you give credit to

Merry:

your face

Cathy:

for making your journey towards better health, more sustainable. So would you tell us about that?

Kim Mosiman:

It took it took me realizing that I was always worthy and always beautiful in in one's eyes, always. And when I started thinking about the when I think about my boys and I think about how sad I would be if my boys looked in the mirror and didn't love themselves, as a parent, that would break my heart. And yet for me, I imagine how sad God must be when his greatest creations can't look at themselves and love themselves. And along with with scripture and some writing and a renewed prayer habit, I have to give credit to God for for helping me get back on the right track. I may not be exactly who I want to be physically.

Kim Mosiman:

I may not be exactly who I want to be in many ways, but I'm always loved and I'm always worthy and I'm always beautiful in his eyes. And as I've discovered, my husband's and my sons and my grandsons. So if you ever if a person ever finds themselves in that state of a blah of not wanting to move forward and you can't find the things that you love about yourself, I really would encourage them to reach out and ask someone else, what do you love about me?

Cathy:

Yeah. It takes real guts

Kim Mosiman:

to ask. I started with faith and it's it's.

Merry:

Oh, yeah, it does. It does.

Kim Mosiman:

It does. Yeah. It does. But I can

Merry:

ask you. Come up with different answers too, which is. Oh, they do.

Kim Mosiman:

They do. Yes.

Merry:

I love that. That's that's powerful, Kim. That that is especially what you said about looking at your sons and being heartbroken if they didn't love themselves. And if God would be upset if he was looking at us and say or she, depending on who you think God is. Yeah.

Merry:

If looking down on us and thinking we didn't love the creation. So talk about talk more about your book, Reflections of Joy, and also about the last chapter you've titled, Let Go. What do you think women and men need to let go of?

Kim Mosiman:

Reflections of Joy started out as a how to manual. When I had the gym, I thought I had it all figured out. And if I just wrote a book and I send it to everyone, they would eat like we did and exercise like we did and and find fellowship and fun like we did and everyone would be healthy. But then I closed the gym. And then I realized that it's not just when it's a habit and it's your everyday and it's your job, like it was me, it was easy, but it's not always easy.

Kim Mosiman:

And so through the this the time period that I was telling you about in my loss of my own sense of purpose and the gaining the weight and things, and the turnaround, the how to manual became a how I book. And I share my story of faith and habits and the way that I like to eat. And it's not a diet book, and it's not an exercise book. It just offers suggestions and and maybe, things that people haven't thought about before. But when I reached the end of the book, I thought, gosh, it just still kinda feels like a manual.

Kim Mosiman:

What more can you share? And so over the last 5 or 6 years, I've really tried to let go of some of the things that hold me back. Some self limiting thoughts that I have about myself. I've gone through a period of numbing. I think people need to let go of numbing.

Kim Mosiman:

We need to experience the good and the bad, and we live in a society where there are substances, whether liquid or doable or inhalable, that can make us numb. And I think that that we've lost a sense of sad and happy and joy and grief, and we need to to embrace that. I think we need to let go of self doubt. We need to let go of fear. We need to do things that excite us.

Kim Mosiman:

We need to let go of of, oh, I'm so and so's wife and so and so's mother and so and so's employee, and that's all I'll ever be. I am a unique individual woman with with lots of thoughts and ideas and things that I want to do. And now that I'm not chasing after kids who are going to soccer practice and and football, and I'm not feeding a crew, I have time to explore all that I can do and all that I can be.

Merry:

Mhmm.

Kim Mosiman:

And I think that it's time that we, especially as women, let go of things like I'm too old for that. I'm too old to go back to school. I'm too old to find a new job or write a book. Says who? Right?

Cathy:

Yeah. Says who.

Merry:

Says who?

Kim Mosiman:

Says who.

Merry:

Right. Right. And

Cathy:

if someone does say that to you, you don't need them in your life.

Kim Mosiman:

But No. How is she Well

Cathy:

How how would

Merry:

let go of them. Yeah.

Cathy:

How how would you say

Kim Mosiman:

your journey I I think to myself, I show you.

Cathy:

How would you say your journey

Kim Mosiman:

now? Go ahead.

Cathy:

Yeah. How is your journey now towards good health different than it was, say, 15 or 20 years ago?

Kim Mosiman:

Well, I exercise in ways that I enjoy. And more often than not, like you ladies, I walk. I love getting outside. I love walking. I lift some weights and I stretch.

Kim Mosiman:

But 15 or 20 years ago, I was kickboxing, and I was trying to, I was doing a lot of of, high intensity exercise. And at the time, it felt fine. It felt I mean, it was good. I was strong. What I've noticed as I get a little older that I can still do those things, but I certainly can't do them every day.

Kim Mosiman:

I don't recuperate quite as quickly as I did before. Sometimes I might spend the whole day outside, you know, working in the yard, and I still you know, it's good exercise. We know because we feel it the next day. So I've moved to a place where my exercise I like to do things that I know I can repeat tomorrow. And and when I wake up and I don't feel as strong as I might, I don't have to do something.

Kim Mosiman:

I can change my mind. I could do yoga instead of lifting weights today. I've tried to honor the way that I feel, and I've tried to do the same thing with food. There is not in my opinion, there is not a right diet for everyone. There is a right diet for each one of us, but we have to explore and try different things to figure out what that is.

Merry:

Mhmm. Yeah. For sure.

Kim Mosiman:

I just I've tried to honor I've I've reached a place in my life where I tried to honor what I know about myself, not what somebody tells me about myself.

Merry:

That's, that's true. That's a place to reach. Definitely a a goal for all of us. Can you share some stories about people that you've worked with whose lives have changed since you began working with them or since they've read your book?

Kim Mosiman:

I just met the most lovely lady. So I wrote my book with a group. We were, there were a cohort of 40 of us that started with a small hybrid publisher. And I met some fabulous women, and they've become what I hope are lifelong friends. Through one of those women, I met another woman, and she read my book and, I started coaching her.

Kim Mosiman:

At the time, she just didn't feel good about herself. She just wanted more energy. She didn't want to ache. And so we just started with a simple walk. You know, we meet once a week.

Kim Mosiman:

We talk about what's good in her life, what's not. She started moving a mile the 1st week, every day, a mile, and increasing slowly and slowly. And over a period of time, now she's up to 4 miles without any trouble.

Merry:

Wow.

Kim Mosiman:

You know, she she she texts regularly with her daughter. They compare their their watches, and they share their their stats. They're cheering one another on. They're eating healthy. They're trying new recipes.

Kim Mosiman:

They're making good choices. And for the first time in her life, I received a message just the other day. She's not depriving herself, but she's still making progress. So if she goes out for a nice dinner with her husband, she could have a glass of wine if she likes, or she could have dessert if she likes. Because she knows tomorrow, she's just gonna jump right back on because she feels good, not because she has to, but because she finally is making progress.

Kim Mosiman:

And she's not she's not depriving herself. She's enjoying her life and still making changes. There's so many cases where when we drop the mindset that we've always had, it's all or nothing. All or nothing. You know, I'm I'm over all or nothing.

Kim Mosiman:

I want to enjoy my life and my family and my health. So

Cathy:

And, well, what would you have our

Merry:

audience powerful.

Cathy:

What would you have our audience have as a takeaway today?

Kim Mosiman:

That you can do anything that you set your mind to. I think if if there's someone out there listening who thinks I've let it go too far, I can't begin an exercise program, yes, you can. Now you may want a coach or you may want to to hire a personal trainer to teach you how to do things safely. If you're embarrassed, you can walk to the mailbox and back. Do something good for yourself every single day and keep working towards that place where you can add some more.

Kim Mosiman:

Same with food. If your diet is terrible, we've all been there. Right? We've all had moments in our lives where we maybe we ate too much convenience food or we just didn't have time to cook. Every small step you take towards good health makes a difference, and it makes tomorrow easier and the next day easier.

Merry:

I love that. That is great. Thank you so much, Kim. That is Mhmm. That that are those are words to live by.

Merry:

Thank you. Our guest today on Late Boomers has been Kim Mozelmann, author, certified nutritionist, personal trainer, and life coach. She offers she offers hope to women who have entered midlife without direction or purpose and a lifeline to those seeking to harmonize their busy lives with their wellness goals. You can reach Kim through her website, kimmosimanwellness.com. That's kim mosimanwellness, w e l l n e s s.com.

Merry:

Thank you again.

Kim Mosiman:

Thank you.

Merry:

And we wanna

Cathy:

we wanna thank our listeners for subscribing to our podcast and checking us out on YouTube and recommending us to your friends. We appreciate you. We'd love to have you give us a 5 star review, and we wanna hear about your experiences with late boomers and what gets you inspired. We are on Instagram at I am Cathy Worthington and at I am Mary Elkins and at lateboomers. Thank you for listening, and thanks again, Kim.

Kim Mosiman:

Thank you. It's been great to be here.

Merry:

Great to have you.

Cathy:

Thank you for joining us on Late Boomers. The podcast that is your guide to creating a third act with style, power, and impact. Please visit our website and get in touch with us at lateboomers.biz. If you would like to listen to or download other episodes of Late Boomers, go to ewnpodcastnetwork.com.

Merry:

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