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Welcome to the podcast ‘It All Comes Back To Astrology!’ A humorous empowerment pod made of 2 friends having cosmic conversations, that yes - always come back to Astrology.
Hi, I'm Abbie Brasch.
And I'm Linzy.
And welcome to our podcast,
It All Comes Back to Astrology.
Linzy and I have been friends for over
12 years, and during that time we've had
countless deep talks.
We've chatted across the country, long
distance, two hour phone calls.
Over the years our conversations have
only grown more and more mystical.
Spirituality, astrology,
numerology, the realms.
Oh yeah, Abs and I, we
are really in the realms.
We want to chat about our favorite topics
to empower each other
and you, the listener.
We're ready to share these cosmic
conversations that we promise they will
always come back to astrology.
Welcome to our little
corner of the universe.
Yes, welcome.
But before we go on, I just need to say
Linzy's talking into a
mic now that's not plugged in.
This mic is here for show, which I do
want to talk about this mic because I was
in a band and I was a backup vocalist.
Number one, I didn't know how to set this
up, but number two, why
did I choose gold and white?
Who am I as a backup, a telephone mic,
which is like known for projection of
loud sound, and this is the mic.
And you're also very tall compared to me.
So I can imagine you being the backup
singer that's like
everyone's eyes drawn to with their
like, oh, I can gold
mic and long flowing hair.
Your presence and we
love it. We're here for it.
We will get your mic plugged in,
hopefully by the next episode.
I have the privilege of having a husband
that's in tech and has a
bunch of, not, he's not in tech.
He's a videographer, but he has all the
tech stuff and he set this up for me.
Here you go. I needed
to acknowledge that.
Yeah. So I've been studying
astrology for a really long time.
Linzy really wants me to,
people to know it's 14 years.
I know it's very popular now and I'm so
here for the collective.
I'm so glad we're all here.
But Abs has been studying this for a long
time. I mean, 14 years is a
long time longer than we've
known each other. And just think, kudos
to you, Abs, like before the trend.
I've been casually studying it like on my
own with books and stuff.
Since I was like 18, it's only been the
last couple of years
where I've really dove in and
I took a class in Hellenistic astrology
with Mallory Hasties. My
friend and teacher highly
recommend their foundations of astrology
six month course,
just a little plug there.
I still feel like a beginner because
astrology, there's
just so much you can know.
So I'm a newly professional. I feel more
comfortable saying
that, but I've been into
it for a very long time. I'm pre-trend. I
think what's drawn me
to astrology the most,
like time and time again throughout my
life, it's always, I
always return to it because
it's kind of shown to me that it's like a
map for my life, but also a
mirror into my soul and like
who I am as a person on the deepest
level. And I feel like I've gone through
a lot of times in my
life where I felt really unsure of myself
and like looking for
validation from others.
And when I would turn to my like
astrology chart, I felt like, oh yeah,
this is, this is who I am.
This is like a reminder of who I am. And
then I started to dive in
more and more. And now I've
become obsessed with how you can use
astrology to better time your life and
like events in your life
and then you can get a sense of the
bigger picture. I really want
to share some of that wisdom
with people because you don't have to be
a professional
astrologer to get the things out
of it that I've gotten. I want you to be
able to look in your chart
and to look at your life and
be able to gain wisdom for yourself, to
empower yourself and find
that validation and what you
need from it for yourself. So hoping to
provide those tools for
people from the knowledge that
I've gained over the years. And Abs,
would you say that how I see it too,
which I think is such
a gift, astrology is such a beautiful
mirror because just like a mirror, it's
up for interpretation
and it's also just themes and how it
applies to you. And so
there's this flow in it where
like your needle chart doesn't really
necessarily, and correct me if I'm wrong,
it doesn't lock you into a stunted space.
It's just this like ever
flow where you know self
and you know like how yourself can grow,
but it's just this like
ever evolving guidance
that evolves with you while you're
evolving into your next Pokemon form.
Like it's just like,
it's like the support columns along the
way. And like it's also
support columns that can move and
flow depending on where you are in your
life. Like that, to me, that's
like such a beautiful part of
astrology. Yeah. And I think you said
that really well, especially the part
with the Pokemon forms.
It is up for interpretation and you know,
we'll talk about career
stuff in your chart too and
how to like better understand that. And
it's like so many different
things and so many nuances can
fall under these bigger categories and
topics. So it might not make
sense in the moment of like,
okay, why is my son in the third house?
What does that mean for me?
And then you might find yourself
in a career in a situation. You're like,
oh, I can see how that kind of came to
be. So it does evolve
with you in different parts of your
chart, activate at different times in
your life. Yeah, just like
coming back, you're right on with that.
How did we meet? Should we
dive into that? Yeah, because
who the hell are we? You know, I hope we
can hear you. We'll only find out after
this. I'm terrified.
It is murky retrograde, but Linzy's a
murky retrograde baby. So
I'm hanging on to you as like,
you were born under murky retrograde, you
know what's going on. I can
just kind of flow with you
and take your lead as we're recording
this during murky
retrograde, because me by myself,
non murky retrograde born person, I'm
afraid. It's like, you
know, in your room is a mess,
but you know exactly where certain things
are. Like my whole room is
a mess. But I'm like, oh,
that notepad is like underneath my shirt
on my desk. I feel like
that's kind of how it is being
born under mercury retrograde. Like
you're still like you still have
direction, but it's like,
it's your chaos, though. You understand
it. This obviously is
our introduction episode,
kind of see what we're about and like
kind of get to know us a
little bit more before we dive into
the more specific topics. So yeah, who
the heck are we? Who are we?
I'm still figuring that out.
I feel like I'm starting to know. But as
soon as I start to know, I'm
like, wait, I don't think so.
How did we meet abs? So we
met and study abroad. Yeah. 13.
We both studying abroad in New Zealand.
And we were placed as flatmates.
Flatmates. Yeah, we have a great meet,
cute story. We both
lived on Lovelock Avenue,
in Dunedin. And that was the best year of
my life. I stayed for
all of 2013. And so we were
paired in the house with people from all
over the world. And then we
lived with our resident local,
Anna, who was a local Kiwi. And God, it
was a fun year. A lot of like,
adventures and parties and
my boyfriend at the time.
Yeah, Linzy, you'll learn this as your,
as a listener, you'll
learn more about Linzy,
but she's just a very like magical person
that just has like the
craziest stories that you're
like, wait, is this real? So I hope you
get to hear some of those
stories on this podcast,
because Linzy is just full of
surprises. But then you're like, Oh,
yeah, I went spelunking.
Oh, that's a story
about how you went missing.
Linzy went missing. I knew where I was.
But other people didn't.
We as your flatmates had no idea where
she was. I couldn't
even know we were gonna go
spelunking until we were in a cave with
Arctic water rushing
through and I was wearing shorts
headlamp. I was like, what are we doing?
Because I was so hungover.
Anyway, yeah, I forgot about Oh my god.
Yeah, that was a crazy thing.
Like for people that don't know,
Dunedin and like the South Islands, at
the time in 2013, like, it was you were
out when you were out
in nature, you were out in nature. Like
remember, we didn't have
service. I mean, we didn't even
have an iPhone. I didn't have any type of
I had like a T nine. Yeah, those
like a brick phone did not connect to the
internet. Like nobody
like if you were going
somewhere, you were getting in the car
and ending up where
the driver took you like,
there was like no knowing.
This sounds like, no, I was fine. I was
with friends to a cave,
but I just didn't think to
tell anyone that I was there. Yeah. So
you're gone for like three
days. We're like, where is
Linzy? We haven't seen her. And then we
were really starting to
get worried. But then you
showed up at home and we're like, Oh my
god, I went caving with
my friend or it's called
splunking. And yeah, you just have lots
of magical stories where
you disappear and have a crazy
experience. I remember the first time
that I saw you, which sounds
weird. Maybe whatever. So I was
very like shy and withdrawn. I don't know
if you kind of remember
this must just be my internal.
You are so you still are Abbie. You're
like so beautiful. I remember being like,
you're gonna say so shy and withdrawn.
It's like very, I was
like, wow, like a model to me.
You were like a lioness model. I was
like, Oh my god.
You're so sweet. I'm a mess.
The last one to arrive, because like,
yeah, there was a break
between the I was only there
first semester, you had already been
there first semester. So I
was like, Oh, this girl's moving
she's like already been here. It's like,
whoa, like, yeah, she must
really know what's up. But
yeah, I'm just remember I was like, much
more shy. Like I wasn't
very open with people and
not yet. That's probably what, you know,
it was life changing about
New Zealand for me was like
making friends and opening myself up to
letting people see me.
Yeah. And letting myself be let
down my guard. Yeah, be seen let down my
guard. But yeah, I just
remember you walked in and
actually, there's really not that much to
the story. I just
remember sitting up the chair,
the shitty chair, like, you walk in and
was like, yeah, we have one couch,
terrible chair, but a
whole burn. What? Remember when remember
when we had it was like
either your 21st or mine,
where someone took our couch, they were
like lifting our couch
outside to set it on fire.
I don't Oh, yeah, I remember. Yeah, it
was kind of crazy. That was
the craziest time of my life.
I've never drank so much in my life than
when I was in New
Zealand. It was crazy. And like,
I could only last a semester here. Yeah,
people did burn couches. I do
remember that. Crazy college
times. I just remember, yeah, being a
little intimidated by you
because you were so like,
friendly and open and nice. And you've
been here for a while. And
I was like, can I trust her?
Oh my gosh, I was intimidated by you abs
because you were just like, you're so
breathtaking. And you
were just like, very like, elegant. I
don't know. There's like something about
you. That's like very
put together and like very beautiful. I
don't know. Thanks, Linz. I
don't feel that way a lot. But
that's nice to hear that that's how I'm
perceived. One time we went,
what do we call it? We went to
someone went to someone's house went
sheaping. That's not what
it's called. Oh, during lambing
season. Okay. For those that also don't
know, New Zealand is they
have a lot of sheep farmers. And
so there's like a whole season. Is it
called lamb? It was like lamb. I thought
it was called lambing
or something. We're like all the baby
lambs are being born. Yeah,
I should have researched this
before. Because I know I like posted on
Facebook something about we
went farming. But we went out,
we stayed at a farm and we'd like us and
our flatmates and yeah,
yeah, we're just like at a
farm. And it was like the most fun. It
was so fun. We had like, God, they had
names for everything. And
I just can't remember them all right now.
But we went was it called a
woodsy? It was like a party
in a barn. After we went lambing. What
did they call that? They're
like, Oh, what did they call
it? And we're gonna go to the but Abbie
and I watched a lot of
baby lambs being born. Like we
were riding around with like a 10 year
old boy who was a farmer
and he was amazing. And he was
driving it like us and we are all from
different parts of the
world. It was like me abs. I think
Rory was there. He's from the UK. Anna's,
a Kiwi and this kid, he was
like, what? How do you think
he was like 10 years old, he would jump
off the car, run over and he
would know which mama sheep
was giving birth, he would help assist
the birth. Do you remember
that? And then he'd like jump back
on the car. And yeah, we're just along
for the ride. He was
amazing. Yeah. Yeah. But I just
remember that night we shared a bed at
this place first. Yeah. And
we're just like up all night,
talking, crying stuff. That was probably
like, that's a significant
moment that I'm like, Oh,
yeah, this is the birth of this podcast
of like, you know, just the
start of us being able to talk
about things that you can't always talk
about with everyone in your
life. Yeah. And you helped me
through like, I was going through it
still. And I was like, kind of talking
and sharing with Abbie.
And yeah, there was just this cosmic lens
that yeah, that's crazy.
That is the birth of this
podcast. Cause that was such a fun, that
was a formational
conversation in my journey. When we,
do you remember it too? Yeah. As girls do
like to like, you have a sleepover and
you're like chatting
and talking about like, yeah, I know
you're exactly right. It was that moment
that solidified not only
like our friendship, but it solidified
the types of conversations
that we have now and that we're
going to share around this podcast. So
grateful that we met, that
we stayed friends. And we
mentioned long distance. I was in Chicago
for 14 years and Linzy lives in
Colorado. And then now
I just moved to Seattle March, 2025. And
so yeah, so we've always been long
distance. When we talk,
it's like, you know, as they always say
with like good
friendships, it's like, it's like time
isn't passed. You pick up it really off.
So that's a little bit about
us and our, and our friendship.
Abbie, what are pivotal moments or things
or have driven your journey
to the point where it is now
that you'd like to share with us? A few
things that I feel like have been the
most kind of helpful
with for me and my growth astrology,
which I've already mentioned
that we'll talk about over and
over again in this podcast, being able to
understand, accept, accept
myself through astrology or with
the help of astrology. That's been a
really big one for me is understanding,
learning about myself
and the world through astrology. Next big
one has been taking improv
classes, which is something
that was truly life changing for me. I
was a very like shy and
like constantly questioning
everything I said, like my whole life,
like everything was like
hyper filtered. I feel like
it's that way for most people, right?
Just cause that's how society
conditions us to be. Also just
had like a lot of insecurities about
myself, like ever since I was young. And
so improv really broke
that open for me. Improv taught me to
trust myself and also to trust other
people, which is a huge
part of doing improv. You have to like
trust the people you're with. And I'm
really excited to talk
about, to talk about it because there's
so many nuggets of wisdom
that I've gained from doing
it. It's truly like exposure therapy,
like improv for anxiety, but it can be so
helpful because it's
like anxieties where a snagmire is like
not being prepared and not
knowing what's going to happen.
And then you get on stage and improv or
even just in a class and
you're like, I have no idea what's
about to happen. I have no control over
it. I just have to trust
myself and trust my teammates
and it'll be okay. That's been probably
it's like astrology and improper, like
tied for me for like
most helpful. And Linzy, you've also
done theater. Yeah. Oh
yeah. So you understand
inducted into the thespian society. I was
like, for real, when I'm
talking induction in 20,
2009, we had like a ceremony with candles
and robes and they kidnap
you in the middle of the
night and you have to show up to school
and do like all these
crazy things during the day.
Is this real? Yeah, this is real. I
thought you were like
talking about a metaphorical. No,
I'm like literally someone came to my
home Emma Haywood and it was
like, she was like older and
very cool and like took us to get
Starbucks, which was like a
very, I mean, this is like 2008.
Yeah. It was like prime time to be a
theater kid because they
kidnapped you. Oh, sorry. Yeah. So
they, part of it is that you like your
person, kind of like your
big sis, big brother, whoever
like goes to your house in the early
morning after like parent
permission was like very,
you know, kosher. And they like pick out
a crazy outfit for you to
wear during the day. So you
have to wear it. Like, I think I had two
different shoes on and like
that. Do you remember like belt
shoes? Okay. Essentially like I wore that
outfit like through the day of high
school. I didn't care
back then. And so I was just like, yeah,
let's go. I'll put this scarf
belt around my head and walk
to class and Mr. Beilveld will say,
Linzy, what is that? And I'll say, what
are you talking about?
And he'll say, this is why you don't have
a boyfriend in there.
Okay. See, this is why
it makes sense why I wasn't a theater kid
because I was miserable
and terrified, but now
I don't think I could have been a theater
kid back then, but I am now.
Yeah, it was well, and like,
it was like different levels. Anyway,
there's a whole like world,
but it's interesting because
essentially like, and I think about this
a lot, my computer's
gonna die. So I'm plugging in.
I really want to do one of the episodes
that's thespians are the
original wellness girlies
because all of the things that you see
now with like the
wellness trends of like even like
meditation and different things, like
that's what we were studying
in theater and what Abbie is
talking about in improv of like different
breathing techniques,
different techniques of
like entering a scene, saying yes to
things, not saying no to
things. Like, I don't know. I just
feel like it's just so applicable to
life. And it's so
interesting how the collective is like
embracing these kind of non-traditional
modalities to find a center
and a find self and to explore
that space that you see every time you're
in an improv class. Yeah,
I'm excited to get into it.
What about you, Linz? What has been like
some pivotal moments or
things that brought you to
where you are today? The biggest pivotal
moment was 2019, around
2019 time. I was around my
Saturn return 2020. And I had just a lot
of things that I needed to
process. And so I finally sort
of, it was like breaking down to find a
therapist. It was like a
very pivotal moment. Found this
therapist. I was really encouraged by
this person that I was
partnered with at the time, which was
huge. Shout out to him. That like helped
me get help. And I was
like, kind of like laugh it off,
but I like really needed help. So yeah, I
found someone and she was
amazing. She's a Jungian
therapist. And Jungian is the in the
style of Carl Jung. And he
was very aware of like your
social environment. And then she also had
a lot of astrology tied into
her practice as well. I don't
know if I've talked to you about that,
Abbie. That's super cool. She
was so cool. She was like part
mystical, but very real. Like she knew
attachment theory. She
knew all of the psychology
framework that was needed for me. And so
I don't know, I think that was just,
that broke my brain open. And that was a,
that was like, yes, I can be
a thespian and all crazy. But
when it comes to being like very
vulnerable and sitting one on one and
really being sitting with
emotions, I have a hard time with that.
And so that was like just a
huge point of change for me.
And what I realized, which brings us back
to the podcast is like, when
you do have these modalities
like therapy or astrology or anything
that are these modalities to help you
center and know self,
massive improvement of confidence and
direction and discernment. Like
discernment is a huge thing
that I've been focusing on lately of how
do I make the best
decision based on what I need,
not on what people around me need. And so
yeah, I think that was
just a big pivotal moment. And
it was right around my Saturn return. And
in case our listeners
don't know about their Saturn
returns, we'll probably have an episode
on that. Maybe yes, Abbie. Yeah, hell
yeah. One thing I will
say is not all therapists are the same
and not all therapy is the
same. And it's, it is really
important that you feel safe with the
person you're going to. So
I think the scary part about
jumping into that space is making sure
it's safe. And so if you're
not, if like that person that
you're sharing your heart with, AKA your
therapist is not the right
match, it's okay to move to a
different therapist. I just think that's
so big for people to know
because the first time you step
into that space, you have no idea what to
expect. So if you're feeling like
uncomfortable or not
that person and you think, Oh, this is
just a part of the process,
which yes, it is a part of
the process to be uncomfortable, but
there's a level of, it's
uncomfortable for me to share
because this is a vulnerable moment
versus like, this is not vibing with this
exact person modality.
It's not the safest space for me. Is that
does that, am I making it
that clear? I just want to
empower them to know like, it's like
dating. It's like you
could be on a date and be like,
this is a great person, but like this
isn't, it doesn't mean
this person is for me.
So I think it's a good approach when
you're, if you've never gone
before to just know you are
always still in power of your body,
yourself, your mind, your
heart, and to take it seriously
and to do those hard steps, but to do
them with a person that you
find that feels safe to you.
I think that's wonderful advice because I
was talking to someone
recently who was starting
therapy for the first time and they're
like, Oh, I don't know this
person. I feel like this. And
yeah, I think that's so true. Yeah. It's
okay to try to find
someone that you feel safe with.
We're all about empowerment here.
Yeah. It's just that one's a knowing self
because that's why Abbie and
I want to start this podcast
because it's, or we are starting this
podcast language. I took
this language course and it's
all about how you speak and, and are you
in an empowering way? Yeah.
Did I tell you about that?
No, I had no idea. You took a language
course. Wait, talk about this.
That's really cool. That's very Gemini
moon of you to take a language course.
I love language. Essentially it's just
like, how do we, you and
me and anyone listening,
how are we so grounded in self that we
can make these safe
choices, these right choices,
discernment, discerning choices. So how
do you navigate the
systems that were a part of the
society that we're a part of to protect
yourself? And I think it's
just a, it's just a way of self
protection. Like if you are so
authentically in yourself, you can
protect yourself from
manipulation. You can protect yourself
from systems that don't have your best
interests in mind. You
can protect yourself from people that
don't have your best
interests in mind. And so
all of these things that we are going to
dissect and dive into,
those are just additional
support columns to help you navigate
these systems in life.
Yeah. Well said. Absolutely.
Well, this has been great. Anything you
wanted to add, Lynn,
anything I missed or?
I'm so excited for this. Nothing to add.
I'm so happy to be in
this container with you.
Yes. I'm so grateful that we're doing
this together and I'm
excited to meet you, the listener,
and to create a fun container together
and learn some stuff and
just reconnect with ourselves.
Okay. Love you. Bye. Okay. Okay. Love
you. Bye. Love you. Bye. Bye.