The Few Will Hunt Show

What does it take to truly thrive in life, business, and fitness? In this episode, Joey and Drew sit down with Liu Gross, a coach from Chicago, to discuss his inspiring journey—from working manual labor jobs to building a thriving coaching career. They dive into Liu’s unique approach to training the mind and body, the challenges of balancing work and family, and the importance of building meaningful relationships with clients and community. Liu also shares his experiences transitioning into personal training, and how mindfulness helped him stay present. Hear how Liu’s mindset-first coaching approach inspires transformation and growth!

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Creators and Guests

Host
Drew Beech
Drew Beech is an entrepreneur and cofounder of Few Will Hunt. He spent several years in the sales and marketing industry, grossing over several million dollars in sales. But his love for the entrepreneurial journey and desire to escape the rate race started with his personal training business in college. Today, Drew leads the Few Will Hunt community alongside his cousin and cofounder, Joey in their mission to restore the dignity of hard work through the highest-quality American-made apparel.
Host
Joey Bowen
Joey Bowen is co-founder of Few Will Hunt.

What is The Few Will Hunt Show?

The official podcast of Few Will Hunt, the world’s largest community of hard workers and 100% Made in the USA apparel brand. We’re on a mission to restore the dignity of hard work and help others live The Rules of The Few to strengthen ourselves and strengthen society. No entitlement or excuses are allowed here.

Speaker 1:

Now there's nothing else that I wanna be doing, with my life. Like, there may be some iterations of it here and there, but the ability to begin be a part of somebody's better. Like, yeah. When am I yeah. Let's do it.

Speaker 2:

Welcome to the Fuel Hunt Show. What's going on, Eagles? Welcome to the Fuel Hunt Show. Today, Drew and I are joined by a special guest. I wanna say double o g, maybe even triple o g of the the Fuel Hunt community, Liu Gross.

Speaker 2:

He's a coach hailing from Chicago. Right?

Speaker 1:

Yes, sir.

Speaker 2:

Yeah. Yep.

Speaker 1:

Yes, sir.

Speaker 2:

Fun fact. This isn't the first time that we did a podcast episode together. Had, don't Drew, what was that? 2021, was it? '22?

Speaker 3:

Maybe even before that. I don't know. Yeah. Feel like it was blurred at this point.

Speaker 1:

Feel like it was Yeah. It was it was a while ago.

Speaker 2:

It was a while ago. So we actually This is the first time I think we've ever spoken about this on the show. We had a a bit of a I don't wanna call it a false start, but we started the Fuel Hunt show many years ago, recorded a handful of episodes, maybe like four. One of them was with Liu and things just got super crazy. That was like the year where Fuel Hunt took off like a rocket and we realized that we bit off way more than we could chew.

Speaker 2:

So we put a pause on the show. The pause was a long pause because it didn't come back until last year. So it was a pause of a couple of years, but here we are now. We're back. We got you back.

Speaker 2:

Excited

Speaker 1:

about that.

Speaker 2:

It's virtual, but that's okay because we're gonna do part two in person.

Speaker 1:

What's the what's the phrase like? Set it down, and if it comes back to you, meant to be?

Speaker 2:

Come on

Speaker 3:

now. A little pause.

Speaker 2:

Come on now.

Speaker 1:

Pause. Here we go.

Speaker 2:

Back. When we never left, man. Back when we never So, you are a you are a coach. There are multiple dimensions to your coaching, I would assume, just because of how the what I see from you on social media and what I know of you. Right?

Speaker 2:

So, you are coaching in the mind and body. Is that is that a good way to put it or what?

Speaker 1:

That is that is very, very accurate. I would actually, yes, that is the proper order. Yeah. I do remember one of my very, very first post on IG, which was like a thousand million ago was if I if if all you come away with is like a great pair of abs or PR, then I've I've failed you. So, yes, mindset and then everything else after that is the goal at Yeah.

Speaker 2:

I've been, I've been a fan of the tools for toughness. I don't know. Is that segment still around on your

Speaker 1:

It is. I'm trying to fine tune the brandy behind but if you see my face, I'm probably saying something like this on my heart. Yeah.

Speaker 2:

I love it.

Speaker 1:

Same thing.

Speaker 2:

I love it. I love seeing your content. I think one of the tools for toughness, my favorite, I think it was probably a couple of years ago. It was you the middle of the night. Well, I can't say in the middle of night, maybe it was like 10:00, ten thirty, Right.

Speaker 2:

Maybe in the snow?

Speaker 3:

It was in the snow,

Speaker 1:

but there were a couple.

Speaker 2:

Was one in

Speaker 1:

the snow, there was one in the rain. Yeah. Yeah. Was one in snow and one in the rain. Yeah.

Speaker 2:

Yeah. It's such a simple message. Like, hey, I'm out here doing this because I, this is the last thing I wanna do, basically.

Speaker 1:

I think that was the message. That was the rain. That was a it was a

Speaker 2:

Oh, okay. I gotcha.

Speaker 1:

If anyone asks, you tell them it was a monsoon. But nonetheless, was torrential downpour and that was the thought process. It was I don't wanna be out here. I got comfortable. So, you know, you find the things that make you uncomfortable so you can that's the ones you gotta do.

Speaker 2:

Yeah. For sure. Yeah. That's how my brain works.

Speaker 3:

I'm more here for, Lee's fun content. That was your weekend content.

Speaker 2:

Look. We'll get we'll get to we'll get to No. That? Is this or that still around?

Speaker 1:

Yeah. All of it's here. Here's the thing. You know what I found? You know what I found?

Speaker 1:

And this is a testament to YouTube. Yeah. People who are building things and have their head down and they're grinding don't know what's going on on silly social media. Like, everything you're talking about, I'm still doing, but you're still building you're still busy building this thing. So you're like, you don't you don't even know what TV show is on.

Speaker 1:

Mhmm.

Speaker 3:

You don't know what's going on.

Speaker 1:

You're just out here working, you know, giving to the masses.

Speaker 3:

So That's so true to say that. My Yeah. My one friend, he's a good great friend of mine, Colin. Also an entrepreneur out there building. And we only talk every once in a while, but he's like, you know, every time you call, I'm never mad that we haven't talked in a while.

Speaker 3:

I just know you're out there doing things. And he said that the one time, and I was I was like, wow. That's actually, like, such a profound thing to say because the small minded people that are out there doing are, like, you haven't effing called me in three weeks. Like, are we still friends? I was like, sorry, dude.

Speaker 3:

Like, I have a lot

Speaker 1:

of People People that move with a purpose don't judge other people that move with a purpose.

Speaker 2:

Yeah.

Speaker 1:

You go I'll I'll see you at the end. I'll see you at the top.

Speaker 3:

Exactly. Or call call me when need me.

Speaker 1:

Yeah. You yeah. Even better. Oh, even better.

Speaker 2:

Yeah. Oh,

Speaker 1:

that's so good. So there's a, I recently was watching, I figured I was watching, but they brought up the point that everybody has those friends or those people in their life where something goes wrong and you call them and you can trust them and that's great. But the people you can probably call and tell and say, Hey, I'm doing this really amazing podcast with this really good group called Free Will Hunt. And they go, that's awesome. You can deliver good news to is probably a smaller number, which means they might potentially be a little more valuable.

Speaker 1:

So I really love your homeboy. Call me if you need me. What you need? Tell me.

Speaker 3:

I got you. I

Speaker 1:

you. That's awesome.

Speaker 2:

Yeah. That's the thing. Like, I'm not you know, I I'm catching I'm catching some of your content. You know what I mean? But I'm not I'm not on there all that often.

Speaker 2:

So that's why I'm saying, like, is this still going on? I'm going through the greatest hits, man.

Speaker 3:

But that's the thing. Like, Lee knows we're always rooting for him.

Speaker 1:

You know

Speaker 3:

what I mean? Like, we don't need to like, he definitely consuming every bit of his content. This is we wouldn't expect him to consume every bit of ours.

Speaker 1:

Hey, Jack. Oh, no. No. I know everything about you. Yeah.

Speaker 1:

No. Please, like, please, like, I

Speaker 3:

knew Joey. These kids were eating five and he has a new dog.

Speaker 1:

Yeah. Yeah. Right. Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 1:

If you if you if if I turn on my screen, what your face is. Don't don't tell anybody. I'm not obsessed at all. It's all good. We're all awesome.

Speaker 2:

Only, you know, a few thousand people are gonna listen to this. Your secret's safe with us, man.

Speaker 1:

Okay, all right. All right.

Speaker 2:

Your secret's safe with us. So take us back, man. So how did you get involved with coaching? I may know some of these answers from our previous podcast. I have a mind like an elephant.

Speaker 2:

You know, it's like a bear trap, but, tell the community. You know, how'd you get into coaching? And, you know, what was that journey like you?

Speaker 1:

Yeah. Well, I grew up doing a bunch of, in my adult life, I should say a bunch of manual labor jobs. Loved it. Being active, all that stuff really, really great. Also being in the gym, and while I was in the gym, fell in love with it.

Speaker 1:

You know, you're moving, you're hitting stuff, you're lifting stuff. And I was like, this sounds like fun. I think I can do a really good job at this in my life. So how do I go about making money off this? And I was like, maybe I should I wanna start training athletes because I just watched an NFL combine.

Speaker 1:

And I was like, oh, yeah. I wanna train those people. You know? Because obviously, you shave off point five on a 40, and that's an extra bit of millions of dollars or draft you go up and I'll take that percentage off. Great.

Speaker 1:

No problem. That's for me. But I was like, I should probably get started training individuals who don't make money off their body. Gen population, me, you, everybody else. So I started there, and I absolutely fell in love with general pop.

Speaker 1:

I fell in love with it. The thought process of still training individuals like the athletes that they are, that stuck. But the thing that got me was you could get somebody to come in, a guy who's I don't know. Let's just say he would maybe not the most secure of himself, or he's probably not gonna wear some super fitted shirt like my my. So but he comes in with his T shirt in, and we're working and we're laughing and we're joining this company and we're still working.

Speaker 1:

And then the next month he comes in, oh, look, he's got a cutoff sleeve shirt on. You don't say nothing yet. Not

Speaker 2:

yet. Not yet.

Speaker 1:

Just keep going.

Speaker 2:

Let it let it come.

Speaker 1:

Let come. It I see it. See it. And the next thing you know, he's in this full on tanking. He'd be like, he's gonna swim like that today?

Speaker 2:

He's gonna

Speaker 1:

go ahead and just let the arms hang out? He's like, oh, man. Oh, no. And it's good to see that person build from there to there to there. Being a part of something like that is once you have it

Speaker 2:

Mhmm.

Speaker 1:

Once I had it, it was impossible to let that go. Athletes, they've always been athletes for the most part. Right? They know how to run. They know how to jump.

Speaker 1:

They've been some version of a limelight. They've been very good at something for a very long time. So to be a part of someone's journey to making them better, done. Never going back. Found my calling.

Speaker 2:

You're in good company because we feel the same way about what we do and how our community operates and supports each other to do basically the same thing. You mentioned manual labor jobs. Type of manual I'm curious because I've got manual labor in my background too. So what type of manual labor jobs?

Speaker 1:

I was always at the Home Depot Pro Desk. That was the bulk of it for a lot of years. To those who don't know what that is, the Home Depot Pro Desk is where say if you're building a deck or you're gonna do a large project, you go there, put your order in, somebody like me will put all of the sheetrock and plywood and blah, blah, blah on a pallet, load it on a truck at like two in the morning so the truck can leave at three or four and be on the job site when you're ready to work. So it's just running through the warehouse and doing all that fun stuff. Yeah.

Speaker 1:

That's that was a workout all in itself.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, of course. Absolutely. When did you start personal training? Long have you been training personal training?

Speaker 1:

I really wish I had that solid, a put in calendar date. It's probably been somewhere around, I keep saying twenty years, so by now it's probably twenty five years.

Speaker 3:

Wow.

Speaker 1:

Yeah.

Speaker 2:

Yeah. I wanted to make sure. I knew it was I knew it was quite a long time, quite a lot of experience. I wanted to make sure I got that out there for the kids Oh, yeah. For the community.

Speaker 3:

One question for the community, though, Liam. I know a lot of people are maybe working a job like a Home Depot, pro desk that are looking to, say, become full time personal trainer. So when you were in the process of chasing your dream of becoming a personal trainer, did you did you quit Home Depot and say, I'm gonna go all in on this? Or did you slowly build a client clientele and build that book of business until you can make that switch, like, side hustle it?

Speaker 1:

I think everybody's journey is different. So anything I say today, it's just what worked for me, or or or what didn't work for me. Right? Which are the best lessons. So I went all in.

Speaker 1:

I wound up just diving right in. I found a gym that would hire me, give me coaching and mentorship so I could be the best for myself. But I still had a good bill of knowledge, but I left the left the left the Home Depot fun racket behind me. Cord.

Speaker 2:

Cut the cord, man. I love

Speaker 1:

that. Yeah. Yeah. Love it.

Speaker 2:

It was it was it was

Speaker 1:

a phenomenal job. I would wouldn't change it for the world, but I'm winning right now.

Speaker 3:

And how was that when you first started? Was it like kind of a grind getting your book of business together or they give you customers?

Speaker 1:

Part of it was giving, but I'm when I'm passionate about something, I'm gonna dive all in. Not to mention when you don't have another option, sometimes you tend to dive all in, it's gonna work. I've lived at the gym, so I worked out at the gym. I obviously worked there. I slept there.

Speaker 1:

I ate there. I had mail delivered there. So people were there seeing me all the time. So that's the first rule of business. Right?

Speaker 1:

Get your face in front of people no matter what.

Speaker 2:

Sure.

Speaker 1:

That was my end. I oh my god. I was I wound up hustling so hard. I I just had this conversation with somebody about two days ago of how if I had thirty minutes in between a session and, like, I work out, I had thirty minutes for the next one, I would take my lunch, my little baggie of lunch, like a carrots or a sandwich, Shower. I'd be in the shower.

Speaker 1:

I would poke my sandwich bag and cure it to whatever it is on like the soaker spencer. I'd bust out a little soap, eat my sandwich, put it back. Just so I could still get my workout in

Speaker 3:

and still have time

Speaker 1:

for all those sessions.

Speaker 3:

I don't know. Was if that's a sanitary recommendation. I don't know if that's a that's a Lee recommendation. It

Speaker 2:

sounds it sounds very efficient to me, and it sounds like something I might try.

Speaker 1:

I might try. There we go. I might try. That was that was so efficient. I was probably that was that was when you're, like, your first dive in.

Speaker 1:

Like, you make yourself available anytime at all times. And I mean, listen. It's not the hardest thing in the world, but you do what you gotta do. Do I wanna sit down and eat my lunch? I'd love to, but I'd also love to go train these people even more so.

Speaker 3:

That's I feel like the difference between people like like us out there doing things. There we really there's no way it won't work out because we spend every waking second of our lives doing it, thinking about it thinking about it, thinking about how we can do it better, doing it more. And people are oh, I'm I'm doing this, it's not working out. I'm like, well, to be honest, without even hearing anything, I can tell you're probably not working hard enough.

Speaker 2:

Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 1:

You know what? I actually have a question for you all.

Speaker 3:

Oh, hit us.

Speaker 1:

Talked to a mentor one time and I asked him what was his hardest challenge and whatever he did. And he said connecting with people because he doesn't believe, and now I don't believe in necessarily work life balance because when you're so passionate about something, it's hard to turn your brain off about how do I make Humble Hunt better? How do I do it when that's that's it's it's your love. So how do you all connect with two kids and girl and family when your brain is still just always going on it. But you're supposed to be at Disneyland, but you're supposed to be you know?

Speaker 3:

I would say that's the big the biggest challenge of my life is remaining present, to be honest. Like and I I've focus on meditation are, like, a huge practice of my life now because they have they have be. Like, I'll go crazy if I don't spend time in my thoughts just, like, being where my feet are, but I do it's a constant trigger in my mind. Like, okay. You're getting too far away from where you actually are at the moment.

Speaker 3:

Need to come back. You know what I mean? Especially on time when things are hard. You know what mean? Because it's not always easy.

Speaker 3:

It's not always, like, how are we gonna make the next million or something? You know I mean? It's like

Speaker 2:

Yeah.

Speaker 3:

It's like, how do we fucking get out of this hole we're in? And, that's when it's when you really get distracted because it's like you're in, like, a scarcity mode rather than abundance mode.

Speaker 1:

I get that.

Speaker 2:

Yeah. It's it's I would agree. It's about whoever your mentor was that you're speaking with, I understand where she or he is coming from because it's my biggest challenge too, really. I do two things. One came from Bea actually, a visualization that Bedros shared with us like many years ago.

Speaker 2:

When I leave, I like to work in the office because that's a boundary for me. Right? So, like, I'm here at HQ. When I leave here, I do a little visualization once I get to my driveway or I park on the street of, like, armor falling off of me. And that's the visualization that he uses too.

Speaker 2:

Like, okay. I'm about to transition, you know Yeah. From basically the battleground to somewhat of a playground where I have to go in and I to be light, I have to be fun, I have to be loving. Not that I'm not those things, Drew will say, I am not, but not that I'm not those things on the battleground, but the two, you know, home and HQ are very distinct places for And I I'll be honest, I fail a lot. You know, I get consumed, I get consumed during the trying times, you know, and I have to readjust and sometimes I'll just have to step away, take take a breather.

Speaker 2:

You know, the classic breather, you know? Yeah. Just step away, take a breather and bring myself, you know, back to, like Drew said, where my feet are. That's definitely this is the hardest thing. Like, it's harder than any business thing.

Speaker 2:

Right, Drew? What'd you say? Like, anything in business, it's it's it's even harder than that.

Speaker 3:

Yeah. It's like a lot of times I spent thinking, like, damn. Like, I don't want my lights to flash before my eyes, and I'm here I am. I I'm having I'm thinking about other things than actually living. And Yeah.

Speaker 3:

Yeah. It was real I would say before because we're the thing about us, people like us, the few, we're always getting better. Right? Like, we're committed that we're not we're not perfect. Like, nothing I do is perfect.

Speaker 3:

I don't think I'm better than anyone, but I know that I'm more committed than anybody else. We are more more committed than anybody else to getting better, and we're always working to improve it. So that's where I really give myself grace in the sense of, like, okay, like, I'm going to get better at this. Like, I'm not gonna be perfect at it, but

Speaker 2:

That's a that's a good point. Giving yourself grace and Yeah. Being in control of how you're speaking to yourself about the situation. Instead of saying, I'm terrible at this, I'm a bad dad. Oh boy, I treated, you know, x y z in a shitty way today.

Speaker 2:

You're saying, hey, look, I'm gonna give myself some grace here. I'm getting better at this. I'm committed to getting better at this. You know what I mean? That's it's very, very important.

Speaker 2:

The visualization, real quick, the visualization was the first thing. I mentioned the second thing. The second thing is like actually bringing, my family into my world here at HQ. So have my daughters here today with me and, you know, I just got done talking about boundaries, right? Well, this this is where the boundaries blurred, you know?

Speaker 2:

Now they're older now because, you know, they're eight and five, right? So they can run around and they got their scooters here and they Tim gave them from GoodWorks gave them walkie talkies, so they're running around. I got I some prosciutto, some fruit here, they're helping themselves, you But that's the other thing that I'll do, like, you know, I'll bring them, I'll bring them into this world and that helps keep me grounded and it helps keep me focused on the bigger vision. You know what I Yeah. Of, you know, making sure that my family's protected and provided for.

Speaker 1:

And I can imagine they for sure understand what's happening when you see, when this camera goes off, how how you are as as dads and how you are as people and how important it is to you that you know what? And and again, I've seen you all via the social media. It's like, you got you got a good squad. You got a good team.

Speaker 3:

Thanks, Leo. Yeah. I appreciate

Speaker 2:

that, brother.

Speaker 3:

My last thought on that too is, like, the first three years at least were in the warehouse was in my basement, and I we looked at pictures the other day. I'm like, damn. Like, my maybe the first few years of Parker's life were kind of a blur because I was like, the grind was so real that, like, I wasn't I definitely wasn't present, like, ever. And our whole lot like, our dinners would get stopped because the UPS guy would show up. And we like, my whole life was it was all one big like, people would come into work.

Speaker 3:

Like, people I didn't even know, really, would come in my in my basement to pack orders. Like, it was crazy, dude. So, like, I'm I'm grateful now that we've finally been able to afford a warehouse

Speaker 2:

Yeah.

Speaker 3:

Because that that was a lot. But Yeah. It was it was a blur too.

Speaker 1:

And that's I think I think those are the fond memories.

Speaker 3:

Oh, yeah. Those are the

Speaker 1:

those are the ones you look back on.

Speaker 3:

You know? I got the the one time, like, I got my first remember that, like, the first, like, desk down there? I had the photo the photo booth, and I was like I I posted, like, this is the dream. I just said no at the time.

Speaker 2:

Yeah. Yeah. For sure.

Speaker 3:

Now shit's hard.

Speaker 2:

It's yeah. It's funny. Like as and probably, Leo, it's the same for you. As you get further and further along in your journey, you realize what's important and the the trivial things start to fall away and it's kind of like an addition by subtraction thing, right? Like, you know what I mean?

Speaker 2:

You know what's important to you. Like for me, it's like family, if you will hunt jujitsu, right? And like everything else kind of just like falls away. Yeah. You know, and that helps me be present, right?

Speaker 2:

And that helps me be where my feet are because I don't gotta worry about a bunch of other shit. Yeah. Now, I miss some of those things? Like, do I miss hockey games and, you know, do I miss going to baseball games and stuff? I do.

Speaker 2:

Now it's just not the season for that. Like that'll be back eventually. You know what

Speaker 3:

I mean? Yeah.

Speaker 2:

For for now, it's those three things and that helps me stay present and, you know,

Speaker 3:

that's that. Feel so I feel so sorry for people that are trapped in the modern day societal world where you're getting caught up in all the drama and the gossip with celebrities and stuff nowadays. It's like, do you not have enough to worry about that you're so caught or you're clearly not chasing a big enough goal or purpose that your emotions are affected by celebrity drama or personal drama. You know what mean? Like someone will come to me with something, that literally doesn't matter to me.

Speaker 3:

Like I just cannot my brain space could not be taken up by something of such a trivial matter. Like Joey said, when you realize what's important, you stop caring. It's an easy way to stop caring or getting affected. My sister Brianna will be like, how do not how does that not bother you?

Speaker 2:

I'm just It's like

Speaker 3:

got stuff going on, man. I got stuff going And

Speaker 2:

we're like it's so crazy because, like, we're caring people. We all are. Like, the few generally are very caring people. Yeah. So it feels weird to me to say that, like, I don't care.

Speaker 2:

I think it's just, like, I care much less. I don't know if that sounds any better, but I just care, like, much, much less. Like, all my caring muscles

Speaker 3:

Mhmm.

Speaker 2:

Are focused on, like, three things. You know what I mean? And that's that. Like, the, you know, the major muscle groups are all focused on those three things and my carrying muscles. Yeah.

Speaker 2:

But wow. A great question, man.

Speaker 1:

No. I think you said it really well where if you have that thing you focus on what someone told me was like a a a beacon, a lighthouse. Mhmm. A lighthouse. Your your purpose, your why, your reason is like a lighthouse.

Speaker 1:

If your lighthouse is one direction and well, you start going off over here, nope. That's not gonna get me here. Are you are you going to is this going to is this event, this thing going to help me get to where I want to go, which is that lighthouse? It is not. Well, why would I go that direction?

Speaker 1:

Why I do that? Yeah.

Speaker 2:

For sure. For sure, man.

Speaker 1:

Family yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 3:

Well, I just wanted to bring it back to you for a sec. So when you were starting out and you had those crazy that crazy schedule, was it always a upward an upward trajectory, or was there any rocky points in building your your your personal training business, or was it always steady slow and steady or rocket ship and steady? I mean

Speaker 1:

It was a steady grind, but a very, very good one because I don't know if I knew it then, but I can easily say now there's nothing else that I wanna be doing with my life. Like, there may be some iterations of it here and there, but the ability to begin be a part of somebody's better. Like Yeah. Yeah. When am I?

Speaker 1:

Yeah. Let's do it. You want another session? What time do you wanna meet? Five?

Speaker 1:

Okay.

Speaker 2:

K.

Speaker 1:

You're gonna show up? Of course you will. Let's do it. Like, what yeah. It's it's and I think that's really good.

Speaker 1:

That's really good. I've been thinking recently about my clients and the people I work with know that I care. So it makes it easier for the business to grow. I think it's challenging sometimes where if you see somebody like what's how do put this? Your family, our friends obviously know they care about us or we care about them.

Speaker 1:

How? Well, we show up, we got our armor off. So we're in front of them there. We're smiling. We're enjoying we're listening to their stories.

Speaker 1:

We're present. We've done all this stuff. Well, how do my clients know? Oh, I'm sorry. I sure you show up prepared.

Speaker 1:

Hey, babe. You're supposed to pick this milk up on the way home. Ah, you didn't forget. Love it. You were there.

Speaker 1:

You were there for me, and I need you. I've always wondered how clients know that you care about them because you do. I mean, it's a people business, or hopefully you do. You gotta kinda like people to be in the people business. It's very helpful.

Speaker 1:

Yeah. It's not a requirement, but it's really, really helpful. Yeah. Really helpful. And I think no one is ever going to question whether I care about their success or not.

Speaker 1:

Just it it just works out well. I just happen to be in the personality that's, hey. What's going on? How are you doing? Let's do this.

Speaker 1:

It works well for I totally understand that's not everybody's personality. I totally understand that. But obviously, you can still give off the I am here for you energy without being, you know

Speaker 2:

that was was that always your personality? Like, you have great energy, which I think you know. But was that always your was that always your personality? Or is that something that being in the game this long has given you? Like, did you did you show up this way on week one of your coaching business?

Speaker 1:

You did. Did. I've I did. I one of the earliest stories is my mom told me that she was crying for whatever reason. And then for some reason, I did my best to make her laugh.

Speaker 1:

And then later she found out I told her I wanted to be a clown for, as a as a living. Okay. So we're kind of So

Speaker 2:

kind So you've you've always had the energy, you know, this this is your yeah.

Speaker 1:

Yeah. Yeah. That's that's right. That's what I tell you. When I found the thing that was just made for me, there's I just show up and be energetic.

Speaker 1:

What do I? You're showing up. They're showing up walking in the door to to be some version of better. What am I complaining about?

Speaker 2:

Yeah. And that's it.

Speaker 3:

Gotcha. That's why it's not surprising that your business has been a slow steady growth because I saw a video the other day of some smart person, smarter than me, saying there's there's, like, three different levels of intelligence. Like, there's analytical intelligence, book intelligence, and there's people intelligence. And it seems Yeah. As myself and you, like, people intelligence is our gift.

Speaker 3:

Right? I would agree. You're clearly caring more about and then this is a quote I've heard. I believe it was Hormozi, but I I don't know who to credit. But the person that cares more about the customer wins, and you'll always out care your competition.

Speaker 3:

Like, your workouts may be the same as someone else's. I don't believe they are. They're probably next level knowing your your your

Speaker 2:

From what I see.

Speaker 3:

Your dedication to your dedication to your craft and the fact that you're just a a beast, but you always

Speaker 1:

We try and have a good day.

Speaker 3:

You always out carry your competition. That's something we try and instill here too. Like, if someone reach we have our our crazy ass guarantee. If someone reaches out and they're like, hey. My and please don't everyone who's listening, take up take us up on this, but they're like, someone reached out the other day.

Speaker 3:

Was like, bought these shorts two years ago, and they ripped during training and, like, we sent them new ones.

Speaker 2:

You know

Speaker 3:

what I mean?

Speaker 2:

It's Yeah.

Speaker 3:

Absolutely. We're always gonna do right by our people and I feel as though that's what's really helped us have the success we've had over the past few years.

Speaker 1:

I love that.

Speaker 2:

It was always it was always about it was always about people first. And I think that especially in our space and, like, the apparel space, there's a lot of, like, profit first. Mhmm. And I get that, you know, it's a business and I get that, but we were always people first. And I think that's why we've survived and why we've grown and why

Speaker 3:

we're

Speaker 2:

here.

Speaker 3:

It almost it almost fucked us at one point, though, for lack of a better word because

Speaker 1:

It did. We were selling we were I don't know

Speaker 3:

if you remember the days we were selling shirts, like, $20, and they cost

Speaker 1:

us 18. So Yeah. It did. It just I got work.

Speaker 3:

We figured it out.

Speaker 2:

Yeah. It doesn't it doesn't surprise me either. Go ahead, Blair.

Speaker 1:

No. No. I I'm listening to you fellas talk, and I know in the middle of it, in the midst of it, it's it's it's challenging hard is the wrong is not even the right word. But, like, is there another way? Honestly?

Speaker 1:

Like, is if you're giving your all to the people who you are, you know, community you're trying to grow and leave legacies and all that fun stuff. Like, yeah, three years, take these shorts. Absolutely. And then you can tell stories more on and they know, hey, this person, oh no, I lean towards giving it all. I've never experienced a time where giving your all to your passion winds up being a bad thing.

Speaker 2:

Yeah. That's what I was going to mention. Like, no surprise to me that you've had, I'm sure there were, you know, some ups and downs here and there or whatever, but pretty much steady growth in your coaching business because it doesn't just fit your personality, it also fits your passion, which I believe is serving people. Like, that's what I get that's what I get from you that you're you're really a servant leader and you just happen to show up in the arenas of mind and body. Right?

Speaker 1:

I try.

Speaker 2:

Your people, you know? Yeah. So not a not a surprise. Not a surprise for me to hear that. Drew, sorry.

Speaker 2:

I kinda wanna think I cut you off.

Speaker 3:

No. No. I I had a follow-up question, but so, Leo, say I'm coming to you. Is there anything proprietary? Not that that you wanna give away the secrets, but if I come to you and I'm like, I'm a 30 year old businessman, moderate.

Speaker 3:

Yeah. Obvious. I I would say as your boyfriend. High high level jiu jitsu practitioner.

Speaker 2:

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 3:

Yeah. Right. But does everyone get a similar framework, or is it all tailored to I mean, I guess it might be a dumb question, but, like, to their specific goals and skill set, or does everyone kind of follow a similar framework as far as the working out?

Speaker 1:

Not you. The only thing that winds up being similar is I am going to treat them and train them like athletes. Aside from that, everybody's goals are different, which means everybody's training is different. Now to be clear, nobody's reinventing the squat. There's no squat that's, you know, better for this or better for that.

Speaker 1:

Like, also, not to mention, I get a lot of train for the go individuals. And by that, I mean, I think there are two There's train for the show or there's train for the go. The show is I'm going to Vegas. I wanna have some abs. Hey.

Speaker 1:

I'm getting married, and I wanna look good in my dress. Love that. Phenomenal goal. Let's do it. The goal is I'm 30 and I just joined the flag football league.

Speaker 1:

I wanna keep up with the 20 year olds. The goal is I just had a kid and I wanna, you know, be able to be a mobile and agile for them. So I get a lot of, or go is, I just wanna come in and turn my brain off. I just wanna move. I just wanna feel good.

Speaker 1:

I just want these endorphins. So I get a lot of the go individuals. So it works out well where those movements can also kind of bleed together. Now I'll be clear, it's way more thought out and way more structured than that, but in a general sense.

Speaker 2:

Yeah.

Speaker 1:

Yeah. I get a lot of individuals who

Speaker 3:

are the same.

Speaker 2:

I mean, you're kind of a go guy yourself, right?

Speaker 1:

I am

Speaker 2:

a go Yeah, so that fits, right? You get a lot of entrepreneurs as well?

Speaker 1:

Yeah, yes. I have a woman who owns a Vietnamese coffee shop. Sorry, Vietnamese coffee brand called Fat Milk Lan. I checked

Speaker 2:

her There

Speaker 1:

is another woman. She is a chef. Chef, she has a company called Pink She makes really tasty sauces that go inside of things. And I'm probably butchering this, I'm so sorry. But yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1:

She

Speaker 2:

I got a lot of I her much on the go too.

Speaker 3:

That's what I find the benefits of paying a coach is, like, you can just especially entrepreneur, a hard charging busy person. Like you said, they can just come in. You have the workout plan. You tell them what to do, they can leave. They don't have to put thought or effort into planning that.

Speaker 3:

Because when I was per programming my own stuff for a while, I would just fall into doing the the same stuff, and and it's like, do I wanna do box jumps today? Not really. No. Even even someone who likes to do hard things, like, when it's like, oh, I'm I gotta do this in the middle of the day when, like, I'm in the middle of work. Like, I'm not gonna do that.

Speaker 3:

You just you subconsciously, the inner bitch starts to take over.

Speaker 1:

I tell you what help go ahead.

Speaker 2:

You are you training quickly. Are you training only in person? Are you coaching in person only or online as well?

Speaker 1:

Currently, it's only person.

Speaker 2:

Okay. Only in person. Alright.

Speaker 1:

I I am trying to diversify my portfolio a little bit.

Speaker 2:

Yay. Okay.

Speaker 1:

But I am I have learned a while ago that I'm a in person person. Now when COVID hit, COVID was COVID was awful because it's COVID. But COVID was a lesson for me where everything I did was either in a park, which it worked out well, or it was virtual and professionally I thrived. So I know it wasn't as lucky for a lot of people, but it gave me the opportunity to kind of, well, figure it out.

Speaker 2:

Figure it out.

Speaker 1:

Figure it out and get kicked out of your apartment.

Speaker 2:

So had

Speaker 1:

a chance to, Fine. We figured it out.

Speaker 2:

Yeah. Figured it out.

Speaker 1:

So I I was I was virtual for a hot second there.

Speaker 2:

Okay. Alright. What that's around so that was probably around the time that we linked up. Right? How did you end up finding Fuel Hunt?

Speaker 2:

We

Speaker 1:

kind of glossed over I'm so glad you asked that. For the Fuel Hunt family, here's what I'll tell you. My spiel is the same to anyone who ever asked. I knew what you all stood for Mhmm. Before I even knew what you sold.

Speaker 1:

Yeah. And it was Instagram because, you know, it's Instagram. And that's what spoke to me is that I knew these these these fellas, this company actually, couldn't have fellas. I know it was you guys. Mhmm.

Speaker 1:

This company this company is saying the things that I'm thinking. And oh my god. They they make t shirts too? That's cool. Maybe I'll go ahead and buy a t shirt.

Speaker 1:

Oh, so quick little anecdote here.

Speaker 2:

Yeah.

Speaker 1:

I'm so protective of the Fuel Hunt brand. First of all, if I wear it in the gym, like, let's see. Hold on. Right now, this is the

Speaker 2:

Yeah. At work.

Speaker 1:

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I can't I can't put this shirt on and be a half ass in the gym. It's impossible.

Speaker 3:

I love you said that.

Speaker 1:

It's absolutely impossible. I have come across people where like two people have asked, hey, where'd you get that shirt from? And I tell them, the company, like, oh, no. I kinda tell them about you all only because, and I feel bad, but I don't feel bad that they're not-

Speaker 3:

One of the few. Yeah.

Speaker 1:

It's not that they're not the few. They're not and they're not giving off any indication that they want to be.

Speaker 3:

Mhmm.

Speaker 2:

Yeah.

Speaker 1:

So I I can't have you just sleeping in this. Yeah. I can't.

Speaker 2:

Yeah. Upholding the standard, man.

Speaker 1:

I can't. Feel slightly bad, but at the same time, principles are principles. I can't

Speaker 2:

hear you. Bro, I have people write me all the time, send me emails that that are basically just like and sometimes it, like, grinds my gears because they're self sabotaging. I'm a self sabotager. Like, I get that. You know what I mean?

Speaker 2:

Sure. So they're like, I'm not working hard enough. Meanwhile, they're like ninety hour weeks, like, you know, parents, but, you know? Yeah. But I have them right in all the time, and they're just like, hey.

Speaker 2:

Look. Like, I'm lurking. Like, I haven't bought my first t shirt yet because I wanna really meet the standard. Oh. And I'm like, you've already met the standard.

Speaker 1:

You're there,

Speaker 2:

bro. You're there. You're there. There you There's a standard and it makes, it's very clear, like someone will not wear that t shirt unless they know they've done the

Speaker 1:

work. Yeah.

Speaker 2:

You know what I mean? Or they're doing the work, you know? Yeah. So yeah. Don't don't apologize, man.

Speaker 2:

You're upholding the standard. We appreciate it.

Speaker 3:

That's a testament I

Speaker 1:

appreciate you all.

Speaker 3:

To how bad our our marketing is because we we built built Instagram community for a few for a a number of years before anyone knew we sold T shirts.

Speaker 1:

So mhmm. But think it was the oh, no. It was the the black screen with the printed words.

Speaker 2:

Mhmm. Yeah.

Speaker 1:

There was a lot of those.

Speaker 3:

Yeah. Well, that it still is. And that's our struggle as a business too. I mean, we because, again, we're nonprofit first. We don't like, it runs on the post T shirts all day and say, hey.

Speaker 3:

Buy this. So we have to figure out just the right amount of letting people know, like, hey. If you'd like to support us and our brand and our mission and our movement, please spend your money with us as well. But we will continue to provide you value, content, and community building, through our page as well. So

Speaker 2:

When, when some when when someone lands there, we want them to see support and strength primarily and then selling. Like that's kind of the order. And has that made it difficult for us in business over the years? Yes. But we wouldn't change it.

Speaker 1:

Well, As a consumer, I will tell you, I have my choice of spending money on a, I don't know, 20 some dollar t shirt or a 20 some dollar meal. I will value this shirt more. Not that you have to wear it over and over again, but just the fact that this thing speaks to who I am as a person, which is super challenging, I think, to find stuff like that in life, let alone, first of all, knowing who you are as a person or what your belief system is, and then you've pinpoint it. Oh, even better, finding the people or the thing that puts into words what you couldn't put into words. Mhmm.

Speaker 1:

Good job, fellas. Bless you.

Speaker 3:

Absolutely. Thanks, Leo.

Speaker 2:

Thank you, brother.

Speaker 3:

Two notes on that. At some point, Joey and I were working multiple like, our day jobs and people hunt, and the needle was just not moving. Sales weren't coming in. We were like, dude, what the hell? We have these amazing t shirts.

Speaker 3:

There's amazing content. Our Instagram is growing rapidly, but the dollars aren't there. We're like and we're like, how the hell are we ever gonna live off of this? Like, can do this full time. And Joey said to me, he's like, do we have a blog or a business?

Speaker 3:

Like, we have to figure out what we're doing. We have to actually figure out how to make this work or we're gonna die doing it. But my question to you, Leo, have you had any interactions with people out in the wild that, obviously, you didn't know that Mhmm. You you see them wearing a few hot, and you're like, yo. Like, what's up?

Speaker 3:

You get it. Like, you're one of us. Like

Speaker 1:

There was two. Most people come up and go, hey. I like your shirt or I like your sweater or I like your hats or I like your pants or like, I got a lot of your stuff.

Speaker 3:

Okay? I like

Speaker 1:

your socks.

Speaker 3:

Like your socks.

Speaker 1:

Don't judge me. I like your briefs. Like your I the socks too. Absolutely. And then I've had a few where I will be out at gym.

Speaker 1:

There was only two actually. I was at a training workout event and it was actually one of the guys who was an ambassador of sorts. I'm blanking on his name, but he puts together really good workouts. I wore one of this shirt to and he was like, And I was like, yo, I knew I recognized you from somewhere. Gosh.

Speaker 1:

Forgot the guy's name. But yeah, That yeah. And we Yeah. We're kinda kicked it a little bit, but I want hopefully, we we get us some more more interactions like that out here.

Speaker 2:

Oh, yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 3:

It's funny. I forget why I wanted to make this point. Oh, because you were saying you didn't know we were behind the brand for Yeah. Because probably, like, what, like, last year, we started doing the podcast and let people know it's us. But I remember someone said I went to my new jiu jitsu school, and I was all kitted out in Fuwa Hunt.

Speaker 3:

And I rolled some some high level guy, and he's like he's like, I thought he didn't know I owned Fuwa Hunt, but he's like what he found out, he was like, damn. He's like, I just thought you were some, like, poser who stings at jujitsu where but has all the nice gear.

Speaker 2:

That it happened to me

Speaker 1:

on Halloween. It it feel good. It starts

Speaker 2:

somewhere. Wow. That's a real thing.

Speaker 1:

Feel good. Yeah. It is.

Speaker 2:

That's a real thing. That happened to me on Halloween. I was taking the girls out. We We were just going around trick or treating and I had my, what tea did I have on? I think I had, the We R tea and a guy stopped me and he was like, like your shirt?

Speaker 2:

And usually when when they stop you and say that, they know. Like, they probably have one. So he's like, oh, like you know, I like your shirt. He's like, I got, like, 10 of them. I was like,

Speaker 1:

really? Hell yeah.

Speaker 2:

He's like he's like, yeah. Yeah. I got you know, you know, they give a, you know, magnet when you order your shirt and I have the magnet on my fridge. And I was like, oh, yeah. Like, I'm Joey.

Speaker 2:

Like, I'm a co owner of Fujohan. They're like, no way. You guys

Speaker 1:

sent an

Speaker 2:

email? So I'm like, yeah. It's me.

Speaker 1:

Yeah. It's me. That's funny.

Speaker 3:

That I told you about that happened in my jujitsu school too. Another guy was like,

Speaker 1:

it was

Speaker 3:

it was like his first day. He's like, oh, Fujohan. I love those guys. I'm like, oh, they're shirts.

Speaker 1:

That's cool. Sick, man.

Speaker 2:

I was like, say it.

Speaker 1:

Yeah. Same same same, bro. Same, bro. Yeah.

Speaker 2:

We I you know, it's just like, you know, and we've been awakened as the years have gone on, maybe if we were more front and center earlier, it would have maximized our impact sooner, but it was just, it wasn't about It's still not about us.

Speaker 3:

Yeah. Yes. That's

Speaker 2:

You know what I mean? That's why we And that's had no desire

Speaker 3:

Back to your point. Be

Speaker 2:

front and center.

Speaker 3:

It was we were out there doing shit. Yeah. Like, we were head down every day working. The last thing we're gonna do is flex on the gram, be and make it all about us. And we still don't flex on the gram.

Speaker 3:

It's really this podcast, I feel like, is a perfect segue or introduction for us to come like, hey. This is the face behind the brand. That's awesome. Because we're also connecting with people like yourself that Mhmm. Are part of the community, that people of the few one of the few that are eating, sleeping, breathing, the the few the rules of the few.

Speaker 3:

You know

Speaker 2:

what I mean? Mhmm.

Speaker 1:

And the

Speaker 3:

few want mindset.

Speaker 1:

Yeah. I think it's a it's an amazing thing you all are doing. Here, can I I'm gonna provide you a little perspective from my end? Mhmm. Keep putting your faces out there.

Speaker 1:

Keep putting your faces out there. It's it's the emotion behind it. It's the word like, are words, and then there's the people saying the words. Mhmm. You know what I mean?

Speaker 1:

Can I the the words on the the the magnets, which is on my fridge, they connect with me, but then the ability to connect with a person on the other end, which is you guys, which seems like what you're exactly trying to do with us? So Yes. Let's all just Exactly. You know?

Speaker 3:

And I feel like that's

Speaker 1:

we there.

Speaker 3:

Where our relationship, us and you, Leo, when because you're one of our first ambassadors back in the day, like, when we were like on Facebook group and it was like, what? It was but that's when we really I feel as though, like, hit another level of our connection with you when you when you learned, like, on the side or on the on the on the wraps that it was showing and I doing doing this.

Speaker 1:

Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 2:

Yeah. Yeah. We

Speaker 1:

And that's the thing.

Speaker 3:

People get the sorry, because cut you off.

Speaker 2:

But Okay.

Speaker 3:

When people see how big we are and how far what, like, our brand reputation is, they don't have that same level of connection. I think we're just a corporation. Like, we'll get e customer service emails like, fuck you guys. You really, they don't see that it's a a small family team Right. That's just making a big impact.

Speaker 3:

They think we're we're Nike and we're just steal we're trying to steal our money or Yeah. Talk to them over.

Speaker 2:

Even when if somebody writes me negative or positive, like 99.9, I won't give it five nines. Won't be 99.99999, but it's 99.9, percent of the email that I get is positive, right, which I love from our community. But even when somebody writes me with a criticism, which most of the time they're correct, and I respond, they're like floored. They're like, I can't believe you wrote me back. And I'm like, there's six of us.

Speaker 2:

Like like, we're not Nike. We're a team of six. Like, gonna hear the odds of you hearing from one of us is high. The odds of you hearing from me is high. You know what I mean?

Speaker 2:

Because we're we're small family owned business trying to do big I

Speaker 1:

have a question. What is one of the things that somebody's written and you were like, oh, yeah. That's right. That's right. We could a a criticism.

Speaker 1:

And you go Criticism. Of my head. What's one of them?

Speaker 2:

Yeah. I mean, we were I I would I got one. Take the last one. Shoot.

Speaker 3:

I think one for us and it realistically, like, is an area we're always improving. But a lot of the times, our demand for our product is, especially newer products, is more than we forecast. Sure. So we do openly allow people to pre like, essentially reserve the incoming stock whether or not they read that message on the product display pages up to them, but not their not their fault. Right?

Speaker 3:

You go on a website, you expect about it, and you expect to get it quick, especially with Amazon and everything nowadays.

Speaker 1:

Mhmm.

Speaker 3:

So I think the something we do well is remove our egos and understand if someone is complaining about something, then it's something we have to do better. Because for one person that complains, there's 20 other people out there that feel the same way, at least.

Speaker 1:

Yeah.

Speaker 3:

Yeah. So, yeah, I've gotten complaints of our shipping times because we are open open about it. Like, hey. It's gonna ship in a week or two, but you are able to reserve it, the incoming inventory. So that is an area we're actively looking to improve is is buying more inventory.

Speaker 3:

It's just hard to forecast like, this is gonna sell insane. You know what I mean?

Speaker 2:

Yeah. Yeah. That's probably that's probably the number one criticism that I get, which is warranted. But I was kinda digging through the archives to to think if there was another one that was more not product based, but more, like, more philosophical, you know? Because I do see I send a lot of like, my emails are mainly personal development emails.

Speaker 2:

Yeah. So I was kinda digging through the mental archives to see if I've received some criticism on that front. Sometimes I get just some, like, anti American stuff, and I don't think that really counts. Like, I don't even know how you're on our list if you're not, you know Yeah. If you don't have at least a sliver of pride of being American.

Speaker 1:

Did you did you not see the eagle?

Speaker 2:

Like Right. Right. Right. Exactly. Exactly.

Speaker 3:

I was another product one, we used to get a lot of criticism was being made in other countries. Like, I'm not on our ads, they would be like, I'm not again, a small family owned American business. I'm not gonna buy this cheap China crap. Meanwhile, it's the highest quality Yeah. Over overseas crap you can buy at the at the time.

Speaker 3:

But we took I I took every one of those hateful comments on those ads, like, personally. I was and that's why we made the took the initiative to be American made whether or not it was the hardest or right thing to do at the time.

Speaker 2:

Yeah.

Speaker 3:

But I would say as far as philosophical feedback, it's all overwhelmingly positive because back to your point, Leah, we're we are providing always giving in our energy and our intention that is very hard to say that we're not actively trying to do the right thing philosophically. So a lot of that feedback, like, we get in the DMs is you saved me. Like, I needed this post. I was gonna do something severe tomorrow, and I saw this post and I decided not to.

Speaker 1:

Yeah. That's the stuff right there. Yeah.

Speaker 2:

If I ever if I ever get any criticism on some of the emails I send, I think it's just not the right time for that person to hear that message. I try to do a very good job of not being like a drill sergeant with, like, my my approach to personal development. But even so, you're having a bad string of days, like, last thing you wanna hear is prefer pain. So sometimes, you know, I'll get a a little bit of a I'll get a reply there, like, you know, you know, get out of my inbox or like,

Speaker 1:

you know, stuff like I feel like if Drew writes them, then he's he's gonna slide up, man, fuck them. Like, I feel like I feel like that'll be he's just like, nah. Send it.

Speaker 2:

Send it. Send it. Just

Speaker 1:

send. They'll be fine. Just send. They're not us.

Speaker 2:

They're not us.

Speaker 1:

That's true. That's true.

Speaker 2:

You said that. One.

Speaker 3:

Like, the preferred pay the preferred pay mark. Like, they'll always say, tell that to someone with arthritis. I don't like that.

Speaker 1:

Like It's like, well, okay. Vivien, that's what you're doing.

Speaker 2:

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Listen. Yeah.

Speaker 2:

We get it.

Speaker 1:

Context. If you're if you're trying to nitpick that, then we're not it's it's okay. It's okay. I'm not for you. It's that's just it's alright.

Speaker 1:

No worries. Yeah. No worries.

Speaker 3:

And that's the thing I love about what we who we deal with, like, customers, our vendors, our team. They're all the few. Right? So Yeah. At my old job, I would get so annoyed dealing with people that just weren't on our wavelength.

Speaker 3:

But Joey and I are so freaking spoiled at this point with the our daily interactions that it's all people that are all cut from the same cloth as us. We don't have a lot to fish about.

Speaker 2:

That was the That's good. That was the thing. Like, we set out to build this community to kinda change the world. I know that sounds cliche, but to change society, to put society back on track. And what we ended up doing in the process is also accidentally building a business of all of those people too.

Speaker 2:

And like working with them on the business side as well, you know, as on the societal side. So, like, you know, we're spoiled. I agree.

Speaker 1:

That's awesome. We're spoiled. So two things. I wanna change the world is not cliche. Cliche to me thinks it's something everybody says and does, and I guarantee most people in America in the world aren't waking up thinking that.

Speaker 1:

So no. Not a cliche. And second, I brought up the feedback portion of things because I've noticed over time that people who are take accountability and ownership, when it's given to them, they don't get offended because they go, how can I be better? Yeah. What can I?

Speaker 1:

Maybe I can get this shipment out a little better or faster. Maybe I can, obviously the reasons, but it's just a testament to you all. They're really, obviously this is your baby. This is your baby. Yeah.

Speaker 1:

That's good.

Speaker 2:

And we're gonna like, we're gonna make mistakes. You know what I mean? And we're gonna you know, at the time, for example, like the shipping thing, like we have, you know, ships and then the date in bold on the page. Well, there's a lot of other there's a lot of other bold stuff on the page. Right?

Speaker 2:

So we're getting this feedback. We're getting this feedback. We're not saying like, we see other brands go after people on social media. Like, look at this guy. Impatient.

Speaker 2:

Can't wait for his shit. We're working hard over here trying to get this out. And Drew and I see that, and we're like, oh, like, that's not us.

Speaker 1:

We're on

Speaker 2:

we're on the other side of the spectrum. We're like, okay. Let's let's, like, disarm this situation, take ownership, and now how can we be better? So like Drew said, now we highlight it. Now it's in, yellow highlighter on the page too.

Speaker 2:

Mhmm. And, like, we'll just keep doing that and keep doing right by our people, and everything will work out.

Speaker 1:

It's just a it's just a better place to pace better place to, put the energy. Yeah. It's something that it's what like, in the Greg movie you were talking about, like, I got time to be upset about this person over here who's complaining. No problem. I'll transfer my energy into this because I got bigger things to worry about, like making this thing I'm trying to build that much better, not this person who's coming at white.

Speaker 1:

I got time for this.

Speaker 2:

Every, and I'm gonna sound like a customer service manual probably, but like I see every exchange with one of our community members is an opportunity to show them like who we are how great we can be for them, you And again, I don't know if that sounds like something that's posted up in a wall in some corporate office or whatever, but it's the truth.

Speaker 1:

Yes.

Speaker 2:

You know? We've had Drew was mentioning, like, get comments all the time, like, you know, on our ads that go out because, you know, the algorithm does what the algorithm does and some of our ads get shown to people that they shouldn't get shown to. And then those people are having a bad day and they're like, oh, like, cheap shit or whatever. We've actually engaged with people k. From those negative comments, and they've come into our community.

Speaker 2:

And they've been like, oh, wow. Like, I didn't know to your point, Lou, I didn't know there were like real humans behind this that were making stuff in America and actually brought them in the community. So it completely changed the energy.

Speaker 3:

Yeah.

Speaker 2:

So every every interaction is an opportunity to just like There

Speaker 1:

you go.

Speaker 2:

For our people and do right by them.

Speaker 1:

Absolutely.

Speaker 3:

And like you said, Lee, the people that are out there really trying to change the world aren't getting offended by every comment or every Nope. Or more. Yeah. There's Those people. There's literally nothing you could say to me that would offend me other than you're not working hard enough or trying hard enough.

Speaker 3:

There is not much you could say about me or Fuwa Hunt that would offend me and not make me think, how can I be better?

Speaker 1:

Yeah. Yeah. That's awesome. And even I

Speaker 3:

was gonna say that even with our team, I try and tell them that if some because it's easy to say, oh, that vendor didn't get back to me in time, or the vendor didn't do what they wanted me to do and what I wanted them to do. And they didn't understand. There was they they they misunderstood. If someone is not receiving the message that you want them to receive, then it's on you to exchange the way you're saying it Mhmm. Or delivering the message.

Speaker 1:

Yes, sir. For sure.

Speaker 2:

For sure.

Speaker 1:

%.

Speaker 3:

For sure. Extreme extreme ownership, Jocko the GOAT, but

Speaker 1:

Mhmm. There

Speaker 2:

you go.

Speaker 3:

They, like, literally changed my life. Yeah. That is when Fuel Hunt really started to do better when I stopped making excuses for myself and everything that happened to me and took extreme, extreme ownership Yeah. Of every single event in my life.

Speaker 1:

Yep. I love that. I love that. You you and I are on the same page, which I guess is why we're talking to each other

Speaker 2:

now. Exactly. Right?

Speaker 1:

100%. I don't get to have this conversation very often, but I'll post about it with it. And that falls into coaching the If I'm trying to tell somebody something and they don't get it, it's not their fault. It's my fault because they're smart, productive individuals who contribute to the world. They just whatever that thing is I'm saying isn't resonating with them.

Speaker 1:

So I ideally should have three, four, five different ways to hopefully get the message across to them. That's my job. I'm a teacher. Kids aren't stupid. My job is to teach them in a way that I said kids, but teacher.

Speaker 1:

Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 3:

How do you find that and to that point, my my brother just finished his first semester in college, and one of the classes he took, like, eighty percent of the kids failed. And I'm in my head, I'm like, that doesn't make sense. You're not doing that guy's not doing his job well if everyone's failing. But how do you find that was just a quick point to that.

Speaker 1:

Yeah.

Speaker 3:

But how do you find your some of your, we'll say, hardo content is received by your following and your customers?

Speaker 2:

I don't I don't know if I feel like like B says, the Oreo cookie, like, I feel like Leo, like, he he can be tough, but he always wraps it in energy that's received well. I mean, maybe that's just me, but I don't think Leo has an attack mode like I do.

Speaker 1:

No. Or or Drew with his emails. Like, see see his question? That's his question right there. How Well, yeah.

Speaker 1:

Yeah.

Speaker 3:

The thing I'm all about the brand the brand. Like, I'm like, if

Speaker 1:

they're not one of us, then

Speaker 3:

fuck. Yeah.

Speaker 1:

You know what I mean? Like That's what I'm talking about.

Speaker 2:

If you're not

Speaker 1:

talking

Speaker 2:

you're

Speaker 1:

not talking about you're

Speaker 2:

If with us. And this, he's gonna go send off, like, 10 emails and be like, fuck these guys.

Speaker 3:

Joey Joey have to issue an apology email. Like, sorry, Drew.

Speaker 2:

I don't know.

Speaker 3:

Drew went rogue today.

Speaker 1:

That was I think a I think more on Joey's side, I've I have your thoughts, Drew, but I have to tell myself to deliver it in a way that is is direct, and puts the onus on whoever is reading it. And then at the end, some version of, I believe you, I'm rooting for you because I actually am. But I found a long time ago, great, here's this thing. I was teaching a class one time and we're at a treadmill class, they run, you're doing all the yelling, let's go seven more, pick your dimple up. When I got done, they paused.

Speaker 1:

Was like, you guys really working that hard. Like you didn't give me everything you got. And class ended and a woman came back in who was a regular and she goes, Leo, I know what you're going for, but I found that very defeating. Respectfully, who are you? Why am I doing this for you?

Speaker 1:

I'm not gonna know you in a couple of years. Why am I running hard for you? And I was like, feedback. I was like, you know what? You're absolutely right.

Speaker 1:

You're right. Since that day, I've never been like, give me this, give me that. It's questions. Are you doing the best for you? Are you working as hard as you can for Is this free?

Speaker 1:

Can give you anymore? This future you gonna be happy with this result? Whatever the thing is, I find that the easiest way where no one can ever come back and go, Ah, Leah, you're doing this. Well, I'm just posing questions. Questions that helped me out.

Speaker 2:

Yeah. What a moment too for her to come back in.

Speaker 1:

Thanked her a day later.

Speaker 2:

Have that conversation. Yeah. What a moment because your intention was pure and your care was there. There's, if the message, this is the way I typically think of things and I make mistakes all the time. So, I'm not saying that it's perfect.

Speaker 1:

Yeah.

Speaker 2:

But if my message isn't received, I'm also like a programmer. Don't know if you knew that. Computer programmer back in the day before Google So I think in like terms of like frameworks, it helps me. So I think that if my message isn't being received the way I intended, there's two problems with it. Okay.

Speaker 2:

Repetition or resonating. So what I'm saying, it's not, they're not the right words. Not resonating. Or I just haven't said it enough. Like, it's like one of those two things typically if it's not being received.

Speaker 2:

And I think like a lot of the times, many people I know I do fail on the resonating end. That's where the question, that's where the questions come in. Because you're not speaking for you, you're not speaking to them, you're speaking with them when you ask questions.

Speaker 1:

With. Absolutely. Because I'm in the same boat they are. I'm asking them questions that I have to ask myself regularly. Exactly.

Speaker 1:

Regularly. Exactly. And love the fact that I did like the story also because to the very thing we talked about in the beginning, she felt comfortable enough to come up and tell me because she knew that I did care about her and them. So she was like, I I see what he's doing, but it it didn't it's not working. So let me tell him because I know what he wants to get done.

Speaker 1:

Yeah. I appreciate that exchange.

Speaker 2:

Yeah. And that's Yeah. Yeah. What a moment.

Speaker 3:

One thing that's challenging for you too, my my wife owns a a ladies only fitness facility.

Speaker 1:

Okay.

Speaker 3:

And the one thing we've always talked about is not everyone has the same goal when it when you come when it comes to coaching classes, but not everyone has the same goal with their fitness. Right? Like you said, some people are for the show, some people are for the go, and some people just wanna come in there and just move. And Yep. So our coaches have to be very careful with how they're choosing to motivate each specific person.

Speaker 3:

Yeah. And not everyone wants to go up in weights. Not everyone wants to test their highest boxer.

Speaker 1:

Yeah.

Speaker 3:

Mhmm. So I find that's probably an interesting area to navigate for you. Right? Like, especially when when group coaching.

Speaker 1:

Alright. So so first, I wanna come back later on to you and these box jumps because that's number two.

Speaker 2:

It's common. You you it's a theme.

Speaker 1:

Yeah. We're gonna we're gonna I feel like that whole statement was just about you and how you don't wanna do maybe I don't wanna do box jumps today. Maybe

Speaker 3:

Yo. I clipped my shin on a box jump one time years ago, and I've never had the same relationship with box jump since.

Speaker 2:

Have you

Speaker 3:

ever done that, Leo?

Speaker 1:

Yeah. It's a it's a rite of passage. It is the worst pain a rite of passage.

Speaker 3:

Ever felt in my entire life.

Speaker 1:

And I bet you've never done it again.

Speaker 3:

But my shin? No. I've never dude, it was during a CrossFit workout when you're in those deep round those late rounds. And you're you're you're lazy, and you're just cut you're literally barely clearing.

Speaker 1:

Yeah.

Speaker 3:

And I ate it, dude. And my shin was bloody, and, like, it was just terrible.

Speaker 1:

Yeah. Yeah. I you you learned to you learned to focus or don't doom anymore. Don't know. Either one.

Speaker 1:

Either

Speaker 3:

one. One. Just to clarify, for all the listeners, I do still do box jumps. Just, but I have a I

Speaker 2:

have I yeah. You what

Speaker 1:

I did for you? I have one

Speaker 3:

I have one of those soft, Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 2:

Absolutely. This is like devolving, man.

Speaker 1:

No. This is good, dude.

Speaker 3:

Jeff was disappointed. He's like, and I

Speaker 1:

Don't chuckle

Speaker 2:

my my box my box has, razors aligned on the outside of it. I have razors taped

Speaker 3:

in the

Speaker 1:

outside. And does with barefoot.

Speaker 2:

I do I do do barefoot.

Speaker 1:

Very, John McClain of you. Yeah. Right? Yeah.

Speaker 2:

Right? That's fair.

Speaker 1:

So bring it back. You were talking about the, different kind of people and their goals in class. Yes, I think the first thing that I had to learn was even though whatever I'm trying to give you, that may not be what you want. So I have to keep making it about you. You gave me your money, you gave me your time.

Speaker 1:

So I'm just gonna come in here and of sorts, let you do the thing that you came to do. And I will offer up, hey. Think you can go a little faster?

Speaker 2:

Mhmm.

Speaker 1:

Hey. You think you can go a little heavier? And, again, most people who show up are looking to push themselves because I can't imagine actually, I know for a fact nobody shows up to a session, or a class, specifically at me, I can see probably else and go, man, I hope he takes it easy on me today.

Speaker 2:

Yeah. I'm gonna mail it in today.

Speaker 1:

Yeah. No one no one, they don't show up

Speaker 2:

for that.

Speaker 3:

Not a few on shirt. Not a few on mail.

Speaker 1:

So I think it's but it's good to know that. There was a I did have a guy one time. He only started boxing with me because his his father passed, and he needed something to just kind of get the stress out. He was a very talkative man, like the very, very talkative man. One day I timed him.

Speaker 1:

I timed him every single time we moved or worked, I timed it. In sessions about an hour fifty five minutes, We might've done about twenty minutes of work. I showed him at the end, I was like, Hey, just so you knew what I timed you, he got very, very upset, but he reminded me, I didn't come here for this. I came here just to kind of move and this and dah, dah, dah, dah. And I was like, you know what?

Speaker 1:

That's right. People, if he wants to come here and just talk about his New York Jets and movies and we're going to move a little bit, that's fine. Everyone's not hit the same I just want to come in here and move. I've got some seniors now, which are, oh, they are so great. They are they are so great.

Speaker 1:

They just come in and name game for them is the end game is to keep them upright. So it's not gonna be as intense and they'll tell me stories about their travels and then we'll do a little this and what are you watching? Bonanza again? Okay. To those who don't know Bonanza is, it's a very, very old TV show that you watch repeatedly.

Speaker 1:

And I have to adjust my intensity to match the person, but the approach hasn't changed. We're gonna get some work done today, but it's lucky because they show up for that same also. They want they wanna be upright too. So it's fine.

Speaker 2:

Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 2:

You got I mean, that's someone that isn't a people person, I I think that maybe they don't understand that that takes a lot of energy for you to meet people where they are and give them what they need. Yeah. That, that, that's yeah, exactly. Because that changes like, you know, one session, maybe not with the seniors, but maybe some of your other clients, one session, somebody could come in ready to go, go, go, go, go mode Mhmm. High intensity, and maybe the next session, they've got something personal going on.

Speaker 2:

You have to you have to meet them where they are Yeah. And give them what they need, the appropriate level of intensity or more talk, less action, or Yeah. The other way around, like, whatever. That's what I appreciate. I really appreciate about everybody that coaches and trains in our community.

Speaker 2:

Because I I I see the physicality the programming and all that stuff, but the people aspect of it, I really appreciate for, you know, community members like you that are out there doing it for the right reasons to serve other people.

Speaker 1:

It's the only only way I know how to do it. And I know I'm in good company with that also, so it works out well.

Speaker 2:

Amen. Amen. Sure. One thing that I I wanted to Drew, you probably have some lightning round stuff. Mhmm.

Speaker 2:

But before we do that, one thing I wanted to underscore, and this is something we talked about in the beginning, you are not all in until you have a shower sandwich. That's gonna become like a thing.

Speaker 1:

Let him know.

Speaker 2:

Sandwich in the shower.

Speaker 3:

Yeah. Leave him dead serious. He's like, yeah. Let him know.

Speaker 2:

Is that is, like, the symbol of being all in.

Speaker 1:

I was I was it was a fun time.

Speaker 2:

The rest of the rest of the world is doing the shower beer thing. Yeah. Yeah. Out there doing shower carrots.

Speaker 1:

Oh, are you are you eating at a lunch at a table like a regular person? Oh, Well, Okay.

Speaker 3:

Yeah. We'll start Yeah. Exactly.

Speaker 1:

Got I'm just I'm just saying. I'm just saying if that's if that's your choice, no judgment. Yep. No judgment. It's fine.

Speaker 3:

We'll start we'll start instituting that in in our mentor calls. Like, alright. Shower sandwich. Are you doing this? Are you doing that?

Speaker 3:

Have you resorted to eating your lunch in the shower?

Speaker 1:

You like forks and knives? That's cool. No big deal.

Speaker 2:

Yeah. It's fine. It's efficient. You eat it, you clean up right away. You got it?

Speaker 1:

Just put that bag in the shower, pop it, throw it. We're good to go.

Speaker 2:

Oh my god.

Speaker 3:

The clip for the show, it'd be like fork forks and knives are soft.

Speaker 2:

Yeah. There you go. There you go. There you go.

Speaker 3:

Yeah. Let's see this. I got see lightning round questions, Leo. Alright?

Speaker 1:

Yes, sir.

Speaker 3:

Alright. First one, we'll start off easy. What is the your favorite tattoo you have, and why do you have it?

Speaker 1:

Done. It is one called The Standard is the standard. It is let's see if I can turn that right there.

Speaker 3:

That's sick. Yeah.

Speaker 1:

That is my absolute favorite and the words speak for themselves. It's

Speaker 2:

Mhmm.

Speaker 1:

If you say you're gonna do it and your standard is high, do not let it fall for anybody. Not even for whoever's listening, not even for yourself. I actually love Once once you've done it once, there's no reason why you can't do it 800 more times.

Speaker 3:

I would agree. Well, that leads me into the next one, your favorite quote. Would that be the standard as a standard as well or is it a different quote that maybe isn't tattooed on your body?

Speaker 1:

Done. So I will that is the best one. But there's one I say to myself regularly. It is let's see if I'm not gonna butcher this here even though I say it all the time. I am from savage lands where weak men die, but they saw me thrive.

Speaker 1:

They saw me win. That is that happens before a big lift. That's that's me walking I love that. That's me walking around going

Speaker 3:

That's sick. That is that is me before a lift. That's a sick quote.

Speaker 2:

And that's something that's something I've never heard before either.

Speaker 3:

No. I've never heard that quote.

Speaker 2:

Never heard. I might go deadlift after this, man. Know? Pumped, bro.

Speaker 3:

Let's go. You're the craziest challenge you've ever done, like, something similar to

Speaker 2:

That's a good one.

Speaker 3:

Rocking in the in the monsoon with something like that. Like

Speaker 1:

Oh, man. I didn't want to fail this one. I might fail this one. I think that might have been there was one I did in the snow. Mhmm.

Speaker 1:

There was one I did in the snow where it was fairly late. It was visually very good too, but it was fairly late. It snowed and I was just out there for I don't remember the exact time, but it but it was it was over an hour. It was very cold. I was bundled up and I was listening to, like go ahead.

Speaker 3:

You have been shirtless. I mean, it's kinda

Speaker 2:

Don't give this guy any more ideas, man.

Speaker 1:

Yeah. Guy wears his. If I had glasses on right now. Yeah. I glasses on.

Speaker 1:

I had glasses on.

Speaker 3:

Yeah. He's like, don't test me, dude.

Speaker 1:

Yeah. Listen. Exactly. Sure. Listen.

Speaker 1:

Just gloves. That was a that was a that was a memorable one because at some point, you could, like, look back and see that. Oh, like your feet in the snow. Like, oh, I walked. You can't fake it.

Speaker 1:

I walked all of this.

Speaker 2:

Yeah. I walked all of the track record.

Speaker 1:

Yeah. Literally.

Speaker 2:

Yeah. Yeah. See what I did there?

Speaker 1:

No. No. Of course I did. I love it. Yeah.

Speaker 1:

Yeah. Let's go.

Speaker 3:

Final one, and this one might hit home, and I apologize. But before this call or this bucket, I looked up the chances of the falcons making the playoffs is at 12%. Yeah. So do you believe that the falcons will make the playoffs this year?

Speaker 1:

Yes. Course. Before we start.

Speaker 2:

Cocoa.

Speaker 1:

I just thought you might have brought it we said Falcons, you were talking about how we lost to Philly, but it's okay.

Speaker 3:

Everyone is losing to Philly.

Speaker 1:

So Damn it. That's I walked

Speaker 2:

in that one. I walked in

Speaker 1:

that one.

Speaker 3:

To be fair yeah. To be fair, we had my childhood Oh my god. Was haunted

Speaker 2:

by that.

Speaker 3:

Dramatic. The eagles could not win shit. My dad would take

Speaker 1:

me to games, and we

Speaker 3:

would just assume we were gonna like, it was we weren't they were there for a good time. There was no potential

Speaker 1:

of a of a win. Yeah.

Speaker 2:

Yeah.

Speaker 3:

And Tom Brady robbed my father when he was alive of his only chance of seeing a Super Bowl.

Speaker 2:

I know

Speaker 3:

that feeling. Yeah. Exactly. We a lot of us do.

Speaker 1:

Yeah. I know that. I like it.

Speaker 2:

What if I told what if I told you in Philadelphia, it's not just the Eagles that made our child childhoods traumatic. It was the Phillies. Yeah. It was the Flyers.

Speaker 3:

It was everything. We put a we put a lot of time in to get here. That's all I wanna say, Leo.

Speaker 1:

Okay. Alright. Time well invested. Falcons fan, I am hoping for the playoffs. But speaking of hope, I I don't and now I know what it's like to have a QB.

Speaker 1:

Right? The last one I had was Matt Ryan.

Speaker 2:

Mhmm.

Speaker 1:

Were you like, okay. We're good. We're good. We're good.

Speaker 2:

Mhmm. Yeah.

Speaker 1:

Now what last night was was game number two. But that boy, that was a pretty ball.

Speaker 3:

Mhmm. Who is the is the Falcons quarterback right now?

Speaker 1:

Fair enough. It is Michael Penix junior. He was the Washington as you can tell people who's watching, I don't own a company. It's a lifetime for sports. These fools are replying to emails and avoiding box jumps.

Speaker 1:

That's Yeah. Exactly. We're just too busy. We're we're too busy.

Speaker 2:

I love it.

Speaker 1:

We're keep up with numbers.

Speaker 2:

I love it. I was like falcons. I'm like, who are

Speaker 1:

the what is that?

Speaker 2:

I'm like, we're eagles. I'm like, we're eagles. What are we talking about

Speaker 1:

here? It's

Speaker 2:

No. I at least I at least know the teams of the NFL.

Speaker 3:

I do. I mean, to be fair like, in all honesty, I I do put the playoffs on just to keep an eye. Because now we're we're automatically getting in the eagles. So we I I did like the Super Bowl last year. I I was watching that.

Speaker 3:

So I have a I've transitioned to a, the Good Times fan, like, the the front runner. So That's okay. Okay. So yes yes or no? The final answer is no Yes.

Speaker 3:

On on the okay.

Speaker 1:

Final answer is no. I am I am I am happy with the hope I have, but if we make it, no big deal.

Speaker 3:

You guys were spoiled with the Matt Ryan Julio Jones era, though. So Yeah.

Speaker 1:

Yeah. Yeah. It's only

Speaker 3:

it's right you guys do your time.

Speaker 1:

That goddamn city was that city was rocking, boy. Yeah. Ludacris was out.

Speaker 2:

Season time. Yeah.

Speaker 1:

A ATAM must have been popping off. Yeah. Peace out. A down, man. Oh, man.

Speaker 1:

It was good. All the hits were going

Speaker 3:

out that time too. That was that was, like, peak childhood for

Speaker 1:

me. Yes, sir. Yes, sir.

Speaker 2:

I'm really childhood. Is that it? What what else you got, Drew?

Speaker 3:

No. I they they were the fools.

Speaker 2:

Yeah. Yeah. Alright. Any well, before we go, Leah, where can the community find you? I am Graham.

Speaker 1:

I am on Instagram, lew gross thirty nine. That's me. Excellent.

Speaker 2:

Excellent. I had a blast with you today, man. As Drew mentioned, we are committed to making sure this gets published. There there will be no way that this is not gonna get published. But, no, in all seriousness, I had a blast kicking it.

Speaker 2:

You asked us some insightful questions, which I expected, and I appreciate. Man, I love seeing you do your thing, and I will always support you, man. Always. Always.

Speaker 1:

I appreciate both of you and, what you all have built. I cannot begin to tell you, but you probably heard it many times already. You are doing really good things for people and, building something. You're doers. You're doers.

Speaker 1:

You're not just talkers. You're doers. And, people like, me and the rest of us value that. No matter what, never change.

Speaker 2:

Yeah. Honored to staying with you, man.

Speaker 3:

Honored

Speaker 2:

to staying with I'll leave a few with a reminder. Always choose hard work over handouts. Always choose effort over entitlement. Remember, no one owns you. No one owes you.

Speaker 2:

You're one of the few. Let's hunt.

Speaker 1:

Yeah.