In this episode, Kady and David take a deep dive into the fascinating transformation of the Kokiri into the Koroks. From their origins as childlike forest dwellers in Ocarina of Time to their evolution into the whimsical Koroks of Tears of the Kingdom, they explore how these changes fit into the greater Zelda lore. Along the way, they discuss the role of the Great Deku Tree, the mysterious fate of the Kokiri, and the surprising connections between different forest-dwelling species. Packed with deep lore analysis, playful speculation, and a few unexpected revelations, this episode is a must-listen for any Zelda fan!
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Hello, and welcome to another episode of another Zelda podcast. My name is Katie Roberts, and I am here with my cohost.
David Geisler:David Geisler. Yay. Think we're getting it.
Kady Roberts:Yeah. I never know if I should say my last name or not.
David Geisler:Do I always say David Geisler?
Kady Roberts:I don't know if you do or not. That's why I'm like, I don't know. But we're here.
David Geisler:No, let's circle back on this. Let's have a little board meeting right now here on the air, yeah.
Kady Roberts:Is it worth saying your last name, or does that seem too formal with the listeners?
David Geisler:Hello there, David Geisler here.
Kady Roberts:See, you have a cool name though.
David Geisler:David Geisler?
Kady Roberts:Yeah, have a really boring last name. I have a very normal last name.
David Geisler:Don't know, Robert's I was gonna say,
Kady Roberts:I don't wanna say boring, but it's very normal.
David Geisler:Roberts? Do you know what it stands for at all or anything?
Kady Roberts:Maybe I was a robber in my past life.
David Geisler:I don't know. I do know what Geisler stands for, or what it what it means. My my mother's 100% Polish and my dad's a % German. Yeah. So Geisler is a German name.
David Geisler:Do you know what it is? Have I told No.
Kady Roberts:No
David Geisler:you have Geisler is German for goat herder.
Kady Roberts:See, I love that though. The reason I had that big sigh when you were like, I have Polish family and Germanic. Yeah. I had this whole conversation with my roommate yesterday. Her last name was Blascovich.
Kady Roberts:Very cool. Yeah. And her family is Croatian descendant, so like in Italy. And I was just like, it's so boring for me talking about myself because I here's the thing. Everyone has this cool like heritage.
Kady Roberts:Right?
David Geisler:Yeah.
Kady Roberts:Everyone has cool heritage. I do not have, maybe I do and I just don't know
David Geisler:it yet.
Kady Roberts:But from what I know of my heritage is my family is from Britain, came over here on the Mayflower. Yeah. And have lived, we live on the farm in Michigan, the same place, for a hundred and fifty years.
David Geisler:Oh, it's the same farm?
Kady Roberts:The same farm that they landed in.
David Geisler:Just keep handing it down generation to generation? Yeah. Do you have like a super old cellar or anything underneath the house or anything like that? Like are there remnants still of the original
Kady Roberts:There are some remnants. Yeah. But we had to make a new house because the original one had to be condemned.
David Geisler:I'm sure.
Kady Roberts:Yeah. But that's what I'm saying. It's like, everyone's like, oh, we have like this heritage or this descendant. I'm like, I am, as far as I know, half British and maybe half like Scandinavian.
David Geisler:So I
Kady Roberts:am white and even whiter. And we stayed in the exact same spot my entire life and my entire family's life. That's it.
David Geisler:What's the thing got
Kady Roberts:for you?
David Geisler:I mean, I'm stretching, I don't think I am, but that's also kinda cool that you're literally on the land that your family started with, and I guess it's getting
Kady Roberts:handed It's cool because it's like a 50 acres or something.
David Geisler:Well now here's the real question. Yeah. Is there any plans for you or your brother to continue that land when your parents pass?
Kady Roberts:That has been a huge topic of discussion.
David Geisler:This not the Another Zelda Podcast podcast anymore. This is now the the I don't even know what it is. Yeah. Psychology of life and times.
Kady Roberts:I I don't know. As far as me and my brother right now, we think that we do wanna keep it in the family, but we might just use it as like a Airbnb or something. Because That's fair. Neither of us don't see ourselves living there.
David Geisler:I see. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. My my maybe this is yeah.
David Geisler:We had my dad's side, their family, the Arnes, were big milk, they had milk farms over in Prairie Du Chien, is along the Mississippi River in the Southern part of Wisconsin. And so for a couple generations they basically just had dairy farms. And then my grandma was faced with that choice when her parents passed. And I think they had four kids and they had to decide whether they're sell the land or I think they ultimately chose to sell it. But it's still a little like, like I had Christmases in that farmhouse when
Kady Roberts:I was
David Geisler:a real little kid. And like, even these days when I find myself in Prairie Du Chien again, can kinda see the bluffs that the farm was on. Because it was a dairy farm you didn't really need You needed fields to feed the cows. Yeah. But the cows themselves, they would roam up into the literal like bluffs and stuff like that in this land.
David Geisler:Because it was cut down from the river, but anyway.
Kady Roberts:Yeah. It is cool because the land is big enough, there's technically like two properties there. Yeah. And my this is on my dad's side, my uncle lives on the other property. But they have, like, trails back there that my dad kinda, like, made for, like, four wheeling and whatnot.
Kady Roberts:And you can just see all the old equipment that just they just left out
David Geisler:there because mean, what are gonna do with it?
Kady Roberts:So it's like old plowing equipment and stuff because it's just all farmland. And I grew up just in a family of farmers. Really Is
David Geisler:your farm an active farm right now?
Kady Roberts:Yes, but not within our family because right now we lease out the land
David Geisler:Oh, okay.
Kady Roberts:For neighboring farmers to use.
David Geisler:Well, I may, I feel like that transition into maybe having the house or something like that be a bit of an Airbnb or reinterpreting some of that seems like it might be a decent trajectory.
Kady Roberts:Yeah. Growing up though in the old property, farmers. We we did goat farming for a while
David Geisler:Yeah.
Kady Roberts:Which was cool. And did stuff for fair animals. We had like 30 something animals at one point.
David Geisler:Man, alive. Yeah. That's cool. That's cool. Anyway.
David Geisler:That was that was probably that was a little bit of a deeper intro than we usually do, but that was was
Kady Roberts:kinda Here is my entire life.
David Geisler:What are you what are you doing with yourself?
Kady Roberts:You know, man.
David Geisler:Let's just really get into it.
Kady Roberts:Yeah. No. But today, completely different topic of discussion. Yeah. We are gonna be well,
David Geisler:actually Well, don't know. It's like handing things down to generations.
Kady Roberts:It's handing things down to generations, and it's everything to do about nature and like the outside. Yeah. So you know what? We I did a great job leading us into this.
David Geisler:That was one of the best intros ever.
Kady Roberts:So we're talking about today, I think it's gonna be called something like the evolution of the Kokiri, but we're gonna be talking about the Kokiri, the Koroks, and I also wanna touch on at the beginning, just a little bit about the kikui.
David Geisler:Yeah. So in my research too, realized that they're not really part of They're
Kady Roberts:not a part of it, but I do wanna touch on that. Yeah. But before we do that Mhmm. Listener feedback time.
David Geisler:Listener feedback. Woah. That was great. We we just started a thing.
Kady Roberts:Cool. Do you want me to get it started or do wanna start?
David Geisler:Why don't you go first with whatever what is this one? Video. This is a YouTube comment
Kady Roberts:I think. Yeah. Looks like a YouTube video. So it says, anybody could be an Echo. And it's by
David Geisler:Oh, do you know what this is? This is a comment on one of our YouTube shorts. Oh. So most recently we had a YouTube short video that popped up, it was a couple months ago actually. And it was you talking about the moment of when we found the physier or whatever in Oh.
David Geisler:You know, in The paranoia.
Kady Roberts:And you
David Geisler:were like, and anyone could be an echo. That was one of the shorts that I released. So this is a comment to that clip.
Kady Roberts:Awesome. So this is from just a mags. It says, oh my goodness. I'm glad to see you're back. I've been looking for the new season, if there was one.
Kady Roberts:Glad there is. With one, two, three, four, five, six, seven green hearts. Yeah, awesome. So yes, we did take a break for a while, but we are back, and we are stronger than ever.
David Geisler:That's right, thank you Justin Megs for the comment, checking out some of our new content that we're trying to put out. Very cool. I will move forward to a, I believe this is an Instagram, it might have been a DM actually, to our AZP and other Zelda pod cast account. This is from armitus, underscore armitus underscore Artemis. Sorry.
David Geisler:Oh, my dyslexia is kicking in there, I'm sorry. Underscore Artemis underscore 208 underscore. Hey, AZP squad. Been listening since 2021, but I've been getting back into the podcast a lot lately, listening and re listening to episodes while working at my job in a bakery. Cool.
David Geisler:I grew up playing Zelda games with my sister, and we have many discussions to this day about Zelda lore and things we love about the series. I always tell her, we should make a Zelda podcast too, because we have a lot to say l o l. Maybe you should. Yeah. I recently moved closer to her and we have been playing Twilight Princess HD on her Wii U.
David Geisler:Every time I listen to the podcast I get the same comfortable and happy vibes as I do when my sister and I engage with the series. Well, that's awesome. Thanks for everything you guys do, and for all the hard work. I'm sure it takes I'm sure All the hard work I'm sure it takes to put on a show like this. Can't wait for more content.
David Geisler:Three heart emojis and a sword and an arrow. A bow and arrow, awesome. Well this is this is Artemis underscore two zero eight. We ended up messaging a little bit because Artemis, I can't remember if it's Oh boy, I'm really getting caught off guard here. Her name's Kayla, and she's all she also does this thing where she's taking Daeku stickers, and kind of like pseudo sticking them all around her town and her city, and then taking pictures of them in her account.
David Geisler:And now I should've done my research here, and find it. But I'll have to circle back, I'll just circle back. Yeah. But we follow her account now.
Kady Roberts:Oh that's so Of
David Geisler:the pictures she takes of the different Deku stickers. And I actually asked her, I said do you make them? She said no I order them, but it's a whole, if you go to her Instagram wall, it's like you know, just a bunch of Daeki's stuck on little little trash cans here and there in the city and stuff like that, or little you know, posts and things. It's a lot of fun. And so I wanted to mention that.
David Geisler:Why don't go to the next one here? Can't remember the account. I'll check it on the break.
Kady Roberts:That's okay. We'll go over I think this one's on Spotify. I could be wrong though.
David Geisler:Well, if it's best Zelda podcast, it's definitely Apple podcast.
Kady Roberts:That's Apple podcast. Okay. Thank you.
David Geisler:Can tell by the gray in the background.
Kady Roberts:So this is by sonic link one five five. Amazing combination of Nintendo and Wait. I think we've
David Geisler:done this one, like a couple times.
Kady Roberts:Oh, did we do this one?
David Geisler:We did this this season.
Kady Roberts:Okay. We can move on. I can grab another one really quick.
David Geisler:One where Link marries Malon.
Kady Roberts:Yeah. I was wondering. Was like, that one looks kind of familiar. I don't know.
David Geisler:I think we literally did it in the Ocarina of Time episode. Let's But Sonic Link, thank you so much. It's okay. If you do wanna just do one more, we had that longer intro. If you wanna do this last one here, we just
Kady Roberts:Oh, I just grabbed another one.
David Geisler:Oh, okay. Well, I'll I'll vamp for you here a little bit. Alright. Over on Spotify, specifically for the episode The Gerudo from season six episode 24, we have that one guy left us a message, or rather a comment on the episode, and it says, hey there, AZP. I found this podcast after I started playing Breath of the Wild, and I'm loving it.
David Geisler:Since then, I have started playing Ocarina of Time, and it's so fun. Hope there is more content coming for green heart emojis. Well, there definitely is more content coming. We're also enjoying Ocarina. I guess this person's a little bit similar to you, Breath the Wild first.
David Geisler:Yeah. Couple games and then Ocarina of Time.
Kady Roberts:Yeah, it's been really nice seeing because I I go through some of the comments on like the YouTube and that kind of stuff too. Just how many people are having a similar experience as to me. I don't know. It's cool getting to have that community. Because I I mentioned this before, but when I first got into the Zelda games, you know, and you were doing like the interview trying to see like, okay, who are we gonna bring on this this podcast?
David Geisler:When I was doing the interview? When we had the literal casting Yeah.
Kady Roberts:And me being like, okay, well, I do like Zelda, but I've played like two or three games. And like, whenever you're getting into something new and there's such a big devoted fandom, and it's the same thing too when I went to Zelda Dungeon for the first time. Yeah. You feel so nervous the entire time because you're like, in a lot of other spaces, I have not experienced this at all with Zelda, which is what I'm getting to. But know, Marvel.
Kady Roberts:I'm a big Marvel fan, but it's like, okay, well you're a Marvel fan, but have you read the comics? But have you done this?
David Geisler:You're not nerdy enough? Or how nerdy are you? It's like the competition. Yeah. Which is just as toxic as the other direction, if I may.
Kady Roberts:Oh, absolutely it is. So seeing other people having this experience has been really cool. And then also coming into this where there are people that are devoting their life to Zelda Mhmm. And being so open arms and so excited, not hearing, oh, you haven't played that yet, but being, oh, you haven't played that yet. Mhmm.
Kady Roberts:Let me lend you this. Let's talk about it. Like, let's do it. Yeah. It's great.
Kady Roberts:It's really cool.
David Geisler:Yeah, that is cool. I think that is generally the experience I experience with Zelda fans as well, and I think it's just an absolute blast. I'm not sure what that implies on a deeper level of people who like Zelda and may not at all, but it certainly is a pleasure. Yeah.
Kady Roberts:So I did quickly find this last one. I don't know what this is on. I'm gonna show it to David really quick.
David Geisler:What the heck?
Kady Roberts:Yeah. I don't know.
David Geisler:What a screen grab. Sent us a message. That might be a Facebook or an Instagram direct message. Okay.
Kady Roberts:Well, it's from George Ogletree.
David Geisler:It also could be our actual website. I'll try to do a little bit better with these screen grabs and have it reference at least where these things are coming from.
Kady Roberts:Yeah. It says, hey guys, I've been out of the loop for a while. My band's been touring and I've been writing a book. Very cool person. Yes.
Kady Roberts:Everything is slowing down a bit, so I immediately dove back into the world of Zelda and picked right back up where I left off. I just started list started back listening to the podcast again, and lo and behold, the first episode I heard was you addressing my question about n 64 mapped controllers for the Switch.
David Geisler:Oh, you grabbed this one. Yeah. Keep going. I can yeah.
Kady Roberts:It was like a sign from Hylia. Since I'm picking right back up where I left off, the information you provided is still very much relevant. Huge thanks, and I now have a Retro Fighters Brawler 64 in my shopping cart. Love you guys. Smiley face.
David Geisler:Nice. I hope it works out for you. I mean, it is a third party company, but I'm I'm still enjoying my Retro Fighter. I got lucky enough to get an official Nintendo Nintendo sixty four controller. It was nothing special.
David Geisler:I just hit I just accidentally went to the Nintendo website on a day where they had them in stock, and I immediately clicked. But also the Retro Fighters Yeah. Remember when I went on that huge diatribe about the Nintendo sixty four controller last season? Yeah. I guess George here was also looking for a similar solution.
David Geisler:That's awesome. I love controllers. I love different controllers. I love how different controllers work.
Kady Roberts:Magical sword people, I don't even think they can see, but you have like right behind you a whole thing of controllers right over there.
David Geisler:Yeah. I mean when I when I start doing the unboxing videos and the camera's over there not over there, they'll see that in the background. But I just think controllers are so interesting and and even pretty beautiful. And so I have all these arcade sticks down here which I'll orig initially or eventually put into the system. But yes, cool George, that's awesome.
David Geisler:So glad you found it. They make the, I think the version they make now, Retro Fighters, is even better than the version I have. The one I have still requires a dongle, and I think they make a full Bluetooth Switch compatible one. Hopefully that's the one George got.
Kady Roberts:Nice. Awesome. Cool. So that's our listener feedback. So I guess we're just gonna hop right in to the topic, which is Kaaty.
David Geisler:Yep. Tell me about the Kukori. The Kukori.
Kady Roberts:Well first off, I wanna start with the Kukori.
David Geisler:Okay.
Kady Roberts:So I wanna start with the Kukori just because they are technically
David Geisler:Kukori? I'm sorry, I shouldn't interrupt.
Kady Roberts:I have technically found out they are not at all related Right. To the Kokiri and the Korrak. So I think we get them out of the way first, and then we'll hop right in.
David Geisler:Let's do it.
Kady Roberts:The only association is their association with the forest in nature. Yep. That is it. Yep. Kiwi show up only in Skyward Sword.
David Geisler:Mhmm.
Kady Roberts:And are not associated. Although their names are very similar. I wanna make that known. Their names are similar if no one has realized that.
David Geisler:The individual Kikui's names are similar
Kady Roberts:to other No, the fact that Kikui sounds like Kokiri.
David Geisler:Yes. Yeah.
Kady Roberts:Yeah. So it has I do not own a copy of the encyclopedia. Oh, really? Yeah. I don't own one, but I found a PDF online.
Kady Roberts:Oh, So I went through that.
David Geisler:I gotta get it for you.
Kady Roberts:Yeah. I
David Geisler:don't know where oh, mine's over there. Okay.
Kady Roberts:And I went through that to learn a little bit about them. Starting with the fact that whereas, like, the Kokiri and technically Koroks as well are in the Hylian category of races, the Kikui are in the other races category.
David Geisler:Yes. That would make sense.
Kady Roberts:Yeah. They're completely different.
David Geisler:Because Kukiri, we were jumping ahead a little bit, they come from Hylians.
Kady Roberts:They do.
David Geisler:Which we'll address later, I'm sure.
Kady Roberts:We will get into it, which was a huge surprise for me. Yeah. So the Kiwi are among five of the surface races that joined goddess Hylia and the war against the evil forces of demise, and then from there have kind of went about their life until they have to link help Link again with everything.
David Geisler:Yeah.
Kady Roberts:They tend to be very skittish, very shy. They look like penguins, which is cute.
David Geisler:They do, they do. It makes, I think like the general, if you're playing Skyward Sword, they fill a similar role to the game as Kokiri and Koroks
Kady Roberts:do. Yeah.
David Geisler:Which is why it's easy to kinda think that maybe they're the same. Yeah. But they technically have fur and stuff like that.
Kady Roberts:Yeah. No. They're like fully animals. And then they have the big plants on their back that they hide underneath when they're nervous. And they're also herbivores, which will also tie in when I talk about the Koroks later.
David Geisler:Oh my gosh. I can't wait.
Kady Roberts:They also, I found out, are tend to be named for types of tea.
David Geisler:Yeah. Yeah. I just found this too.
Kady Roberts:Yeah. Which I think is really cute. If you were a tea, what what would you like to be? Or if you were a tea. If you were a kiwi, what tea would you be named I
David Geisler:don't know. Actually, just had a new one the other day. Michelle, I guess, poured it for me or whatever, and I can't even remember what it was. But it was very good. I don't know.
David Geisler:I don't know.
Kady Roberts:Yeah. No that's can't speak
David Geisler:to that. Oh well, well I do kinda know. I do kinda know. Yeah. When it comes to the different teas, the oolongs and the whatevers and the herbal blas and whatever, that's all fine.
David Geisler:Yeah. But honestly when I go to a tea shop, which I probably do once every three months, know I go to tea shops less than coffee shops. Yeah. When I go
Kady Roberts:to a
David Geisler:proper tea shop, my favorite thing to get is a freshly ground matcha. Where it's the actual green tea leaf, It smells like grass, it smells like fresh cut lawn, it kind of is almost a little unappetizing, but as soon as you start sipping it, it's just delicious. And so my go to, and I kinda like that quick caffeine hit Yeah. That you get from the more juicy leaf, because it's not dried out. And so I do like a good matcha.
Kady Roberts:I would have to be chai.
David Geisler:Okay. Sure.
Kady Roberts:I love I love sweet tea. So I like regular teas. Black tea is like my favorite like just plain tea. Yeah. But chai and Thai tea, love them both.
David Geisler:So Maybe it was oolong something, I don't know that Michelle gave me the other day. But the one thing you have be careful with matcha is that if you get it, no no hate on Starbucks or anything, but if you get like the Starbucks version or if you kinda get the matcha you buy at the grocery store, that's essentially like hot chocolate. Just Yeah. It's ground down to like a little fine powder. It's really about that's fine, I'll still get those sometimes for the but that freshly ground, you know, leaf juices coming out of the pulp as it's right there as you're drinking it is is is really something special.
Kady Roberts:Nice.
David Geisler:So I guess I'd be, machai. Machai. Yeah.
Kady Roberts:I'm stuttering a lot today, it's okay.
David Geisler:That's fine.
Kady Roberts:We'll just hang it. The
David Geisler:Our audience is judging you.
Kady Roberts:I know, I could feel it. Remember how I just talked earlier in this episode about how judgmental everyone is in the Southland community?
David Geisler:I feel like I feel like you're doing great.
Kady Roberts:Oh, thank you.
David Geisler:I mean there's a lot of there's it is almost a book report. There's lot of information here. Yeah.
Kady Roberts:So so So that's all I really had to say about the ki ki.
David Geisler:Yeah yeah yeah. Ki ki are herbivores, which struck me weird because it's they're part plant though, so I don't wanna get into that, but that's a little weird.
Kady Roberts:Yeah. It doesn't really go much into it, but like I said, that will come in handy when we talk about the koroks. So I wanna just jump straight to the kokiri. Yeah. This is where the meat of everything is, Yes.
Kady Roberts:And the Kokiri are interesting because they first appear in Ocarina, and then you also kind of get an appearance in Wind Waker by the ghost of a Kokiri.
David Geisler:Did you do?
Kady Roberts:Which I have read about, but haven't gotten to that point yet.
David Geisler:No. Yeah. You're still maybe two or three dungeons away if you're, what, just finished the Deku Tree Dungeon or Yeah.
Kady Roberts:I just finished that. They're the Children of the Forest, which I think is really fun. And you mentioned way back when we were doing the Ocarina stuff that the creation of them was kind of based on Peter Pan.
David Geisler:From a design spec point of From like a just, what's the aesthetic?
Kady Roberts:Yes.
David Geisler:Yeah. Yeah. Not in game, but like
Kady Roberts:Nintendo was, like, channeling original idea for them when they were, like, on the storyboard. So they created this race. And race is even a strong word, I would say. This group of children named the Kokiri. And I even put some quotations here.
Kady Roberts:A full essay. So from the Isolde Encyclopedia on page 50, it goes completely deep dive into Kokiri, which is really interesting. And this is where it directly tells you the Kokiri are highlands. It says they trace their roots back to a time when the highlands were first developing their civilization, building cities, and relying on a less natural way of life. Yep.
Kady Roberts:Because of that, the Kokiri decided to distance themselves from highlands exiling themselves to the forest to make their own way of life closer to nature.
David Geisler:Mhmm.
Kady Roberts:That is really cool. However, it raises a lot of questions because how old are the Kokiri?
David Geisler:Well right, yeah, they're a childlike race.
Kady Roberts:Yeah. They're child They're children that stay children.
David Geisler:You don't age.
Kady Roberts:They don't age, but then if they don't age and
David Geisler:Are you thinking what I'm thinking? Like did a bunch of kids run into the woods and then stop aging?
Kady Roberts:Yeah. Are they all orphans? Did they run into the woods and get taken in? Because this is also what it says later on is that oh gosh. Where is it?
David Geisler:Well, non Kokiri. Oh. Yeah.
Kady Roberts:This. When Hyrule Field and the Forest meet, Highlands who wander into the Lost Woods turn into monsters. Yeah. Adults into Stalfos, and children into Skull Kids. This is also in the Zelda Encyclopedia.
David Geisler:Yeah. That could be. I thought they turned into plants. That's what I said a few episodes ago. But no, maybe that's what it is.
Kady Roberts:At least from the Zelda Encyclopedia, that's what it So adults cannot exist there. So they can't have more children to continue this race.
David Geisler:Right.
Kady Roberts:So a bunch of kids wandered in and were these all the original kids and then every kid that wandered in ever since get turned into school kids? Well Where is the line there?
David Geisler:I think that line, there's a moment somewhere, and I don't know if it's in the Ocarina of Time manga, which is like borderline canon, borderline not. But I think the Kakiri are specifically protected, you could say, or their whole non aging thing. Yes it happens in the Lost Woods, but it's by way of the protection of the deku tree or something like Which actually is weird, because then when the deku tree dies, they stay kids. It's not like they start growing. Maybe the deku tree put a spell on the and it just stays I
Kady Roberts:always took it as that, but where I'm kinda coming from with this is are these the original kids that they went into the forest before the Kokiri were a thing? And then the Deku tree was like, okay, I like that you guys appreciate nature. You're all children and orphans or whatever. We're gonna put this spell. And now, from this point onwards, any other kid that wanders in gets turned into a Skoolkit.
David Geisler:That's how I interpret it.
Kady Roberts:Yeah. So then, is Link an original?
David Geisler:Well, right. And that's the tricky thing. I think that's what the reason Link assumes he is Kokiri and why the other Kokiri assume it. So he's an outcast in the beginning of Ocarina of
Kady Roberts:Time. Because he doesn't have a fairy.
David Geisler:He doesn't have a fairy, and he doesn't have hair like theirs either. Yeah. And I think Link was based on the Ocarina of Time manga. Link's mom there's actually a comic book that portrays this too, not just the manga comic, not just the manga graphic novel. Link's mom runs into the woods with Link during a battle.
David Geisler:After a battle, Link's dad actually dies in this battle. Yeah. It's the army or the fight for something, who knows what. But it's pre Ganondorf. She runs into the woods, meets the Deku Tree, and basically says please please please take care of my child.
Kady Roberts:Yeah.
David Geisler:And I'm paraphrasing but the Deku Tree says sure no problem. Maybe the Deku Tree makes an exception, brings Link into that Kakiri Yeah. Because then the mom passes away.
Kady Roberts:I see, I love that. I love that thought because that's a whole thing too with it says, you only become a true Kokiri once you've been granted a fairy. And at the beginning of the game, there's that one kid that's constantly being like, you're not a real Kokiri. Like, you're the outcast. You're the outsider here even after Link gets the fairy.
Kady Roberts:And that would make a lot of sense because he's not really a Kokiri. And also why he leaves and kind of has that feeling that he's meant to do more. He's meant to be more. He's not he doesn't fit there, I Which also kinda goes into the fact that the Kokiri believe that they will or I guess they believe, but they're also told that they will die if they leave the Lost Woods.
David Geisler:Right.
Kady Roberts:And it says in the encyclopedia, the reason that the Deku Tree tells them that isn't that they're gonna go and immediately perish. Although, he doesn't tell them that.
David Geisler:Oh, it's that they age.
Kady Roberts:It's that they will age and the Deku Tree's powers cannot reach
David Geisler:to stop it,
Kady Roberts:and they will eventually die. Not that they'll just go out and wither.
David Geisler:Right. No. That's cool. I love that. So maybe, yeah, maybe, you know, at the end of remember at our Ocarina episode, were like, at the ending, why are there some Kakiri out at the festival?
Kady Roberts:Yeah.
David Geisler:Or maybe they're willing to age for a night. You know what I Yeah. And then go back.
Kady Roberts:I just thought I'm thinking.
David Geisler:Yeah. Oh well that's interesting. And also you pointed out a couple episodes back how important it was with Saria's relationship with Link because she knew that in so many ways would not be able to return because he would continue to grow. Mhmm. And for creatures like the Kokiri who have been alive for hundreds of years, you know, someone's lifetime is a blink of an eye.
Kady Roberts:It's a blink, yeah.
David Geisler:Like, you know? And so maybe in some ways, when you're used to having 9,000 in your life, someone aging to the age of 40, 50, or 60, or 70, or whatever, does feel like, yeah, go out and basically immediately die in some ways, right?
Kady Roberts:Exactly. Yeah and I think that's also why it's so interesting when he does leave and he begins to age and he comes back. To them it's like oh, you left for, oh you were gone like a couple hours and now you're a completely different person.
David Geisler:Yeah. Right. Yeah. Yeah. And and I think some don't even recognize him, yeah.
Kady Roberts:Yeah. Exactly. Final kind of thing I have here, the Deku Tree, specifically in Ocarina of Time, they call him saying that he is our father. He's our father. He's our guardian.
Kady Roberts:He gave life to all of us.
David Geisler:Gave life because that spell keeps them not aging or keeps them alive or something. Yeah.
Kady Roberts:Yeah. And that they make a direct tie that Kokiri have ties to the fairies and just ties to fairies in general, which I think also is why they are given fairies. But, like, from a standpoint of looking at them from the game when they were being originally created being like, okay, there's these magical, like, little characters that have some, like, kind of magic tied to them. They live in the woods. Okay.
Kady Roberts:They're basically like fairies that make them not fairies and give them fairies. I I think it's interesting.
David Geisler:I just realized something. Where do you think Navi comes from?
Kady Roberts:That's a great question.
David Geisler:Because we're introduced to her at the beginning of the game, just flying to the Deku Tree. Uh-huh. Did she come from the forest, or did she come from the castle? Did she come from somewhere else? Was she summoned?
Kady Roberts:Yeah. I I always thought it was interesting too with they have the great fairies. They have the really big ones. Yes. So are like do all fairies come from the great fairies?
Kady Roberts:Do they create them with magic and then send them out to the world?
David Geisler:And Yeah. They might. That's interesting.
Kady Roberts:Then is it kind of like a Skyloft or what what are they called? The birds in Skyward Sword.
David Geisler:Oh, yeah. Wait. No. I forgot to. Yeah.
Kady Roberts:It's like a loftwing situation where it's like you just are intrinsically tied with one of these fairies, and it'll come to you when the moment is right, and you will have this like eternal bond.
David Geisler:Maybe it is. Maybe it is. And just all the Kokiri since they're hundreds of years old, it's happened.
Kady Roberts:Yeah.
David Geisler:And Link's only been there. Well now, so that's weird. So well, also one thing that's little interesting is Link is like an infant when he's brought to
Kady Roberts:Mhmm.
David Geisler:The the woods. But when we meet him, he's roughly seven years old. So he aged a little. Yeah. Then the baiku tree's like, well, we'll let him age up for a little bit, then we'll freeze him.
Kady Roberts:Yeah. And that's the thing too. Maybe that's why. But also, could it be a thing of maybe the Kokiri are all children that have been brought to the forest looking for, like, a a sanctuary. And then the other, like, the ones that turn into school kids are those that are going and just, like, messing around, trying to mess with the forest or just kids that come from good homes and are just running in.
Kady Roberts:It just it brings a lot of questions.
David Geisler:There's yes. Yes. You're absolutely right. There's one it's also interesting because Link so if the Kakiri were originally Hylians, Hylians, and Link is a Hylian, But he's come to the forest, I guess you could say later than them. Uh-huh.
David Geisler:He still has his orange hair. It's not like they all have green hair. And it's not like they're going through generations of evolution.
Kady Roberts:Well, think there's some that have blonde hair.
David Geisler:Oh you're right, yeah. That one girl has blonde hair and stuff. Yeah. Wait is it only Saria that has green hair?
Kady Roberts:I think she's the only one that has green hair.
David Geisler:Woah, that was a full don't have
Kady Roberts:blonde hair.
David Geisler:Wow, I just painted that memory over. Yeah, you're No, you're fine. Okay, nope, I don't have a thing.
Kady Roberts:Oh. Oh.
David Geisler:I was gonna say like, is them getting green hair, them getting closer to becoming what will eventually be the Koroks and stuff like that.
Kady Roberts:Yeah. And maybe Saria is the one that's been the longest. Maybe she is the only one that was a part of the original.
David Geisler:Interesting. Yeah. It's a big
Kady Roberts:And that's why she knows like, when they leave they age. Mhmm. And they don't die instantly. Who knows?
David Geisler:Yeah. I agree. I agree. I think if if we were about to transition to Korrax Yeah. I think this would be a good time to take a break.
Kady Roberts:Yeah. That's what I was just thinking.
David Geisler:Because the one of the hardest pills to swallow for some Zelda fans is the knowledge of, wait, the humanoid Kokiri turn into those weird little seeds that dance around that have leaves for faces? How does that happen? And that happens in the
Kady Roberts:It happens through magic.
David Geisler:You've experienced the Koroks in Wind Waker now. Yes. But you first experienced them in Breath of the Wild. Yes. And then of course in Tears of the Kingdom.
Kady Roberts:It was a huge surprise.
David Geisler:To see them in Wind Waker? Yeah. Where they originated again.
Kady Roberts:Uh-huh. They're so cute. They look just as cute.
David Geisler:They almost look identical. It's almost the same models.
Kady Roberts:They look amazing.
David Geisler:Yeah. Alright. Cool. I guess we'll we'll get into that when we get back. Yes?
Kady Roberts:Yeah. We'll see you on the other side. And we're back.
David Geisler:Hey, Katie. Hey.
Kady Roberts:Hey. Welcome to another Zelda podcast.
David Geisler:Oh my gosh.
Kady Roberts:We're back from the break. Back from the break. We are gonna jump straight into the Kokiri because we're gonna
David Geisler:straight The Koroks.
Kady Roberts:The Koroks because they stem from the Kokiri. That's what I was trying
David Geisler:to say.
Kady Roberts:According to the Wind Waker and all of the other lore books, they are directly descended. They show up in Wind Waker for the first time, but they also are in Breath of the Wild, Tears of the Kingdom, and they show up in Age of Calamity. So Yeah. It's a blast. Was interesting to see that they weren't in Echoes of Wisdom because they end up putting the Deku in there instead.
David Geisler:Right.
Kady Roberts:But still really cool.
David Geisler:Yeah. And and Breath of the Wild is reasonably thousands of years after Wind Waker. So also if we went from Ocarina of Time, Kokiri, and they evolved into the Koroks, the Koroks kind of have maintained in their current state for for thousands of years too, by way.
Kady Roberts:Yeah. And I would argue though so, okay. First, first, first.
David Geisler:Did I jump ahead?
Kady Roberts:No no no no no. You don't have my notes in front of you. You can't don't feel bad. Alright. I was just gonna say, so the reason that the Kokiri changed into the Koroks in the first place is because the entire world gets flooded and they need to find a way to survive.
Kady Roberts:So they it says they evolve, I would assume that the Daegu tree uses some kind of magic, puts a spell on them to become truly part of the forest, and they become the little guys that we know.
David Geisler:Yeah. I'd I'd like to mention real quick, you know, what we know about our conventional knowledge of evolution would suggest that that's almost like a de evolution to go from a humanoid type character down to this little seedling. But when you but I don't think we're talking about that kind of evolution here. I think we're talking about magical choices and stuff like that.
Kady Roberts:Yeah. And I would argue why they would keep that shape if theoretically this was like actual timeline stuff and then we get Breath of the Wild. If you think about it, they don't need to really eat.
David Geisler:Right.
Kady Roberts:They can fly around. They can leave the forest now and not age. Right. So there's just a lot of things there that I feel like they are freer than ever.
David Geisler:And I don't even know if there's really like is there ever a Korok that says like, my dad did this or my son did this? Like, do they have generations, I'm starting to I
Kady Roberts:think they do. Because I, for some reason, I wanna say that there was some that say stuff like that. And then that would also raise the point that now they are able to evolve and have children and actually like have normal lives now because they're not just stuck as these forever forest children that can't leave the forest or do anything outside of the forest and they got to hide away.
David Geisler:Mhmm.
Kady Roberts:But yeah. So the Koroks are still led by the Deku tree. They still kinda see him as a father figure to them, which also ties in, are these the exact same
David Geisler:theory? Right. Right. Right. Wind Waker doesn't take place too much, too long after Ocarina, maybe it's a hundred years or more, but it's not like thousands.
David Geisler:Possible that it's likely the same Deku tree. Oh no, no, wait, oh my gosh, am I stretching here? Is the new Deku tree in Wind Waker the little baby sprout in Ocarina, at the end of Ocarina?
Kady Roberts:Maybe. Because on Wind Waker they do that whole ceremony where they go and they plant to start new Deku trees and like new trees around.
David Geisler:Oh, yes yes yes. That's right. Okay. So maybe there's yeah. Maybe it's a physically different tree, the spirit of the Daegu tree can generationally move through from one tree to another or something.
David Geisler:Yeah yeah.
Kady Roberts:Okay. Yeah. Which would be interesting. And I wanna point out too if we're doing the timeline order and we're saying that Wind Waker is like in the middle, it would make sense then why the world went from being flooded to being connected again. Because that's the whole plan of the Koroks and the Deku Tree is if we plant enough trees, then their roots will eventually go through and tie and bring all the continent back together.
David Geisler:Oh, really?
Kady Roberts:Yeah.
David Geisler:Wow.
Kady Roberts:Which I think is very interesting.
David Geisler:Yeah.
Kady Roberts:I don't know, I mean, clearly it worked. I don't know how they got there for that, but it worked.
David Geisler:Well let's reverse engineer this a little. So the flood happens because the three goddesses are trying to like trap Ganondorf. Uh-huh. And that's because that's in the timeline where there isn't a Link to protect them. Yeah.
David Geisler:It's the one where link fails in Ocarina. And so there is because Ganondorf's forces are rising up again, the goddesses say, alright everybody, go to the top of the mountains, we're gonna flood all of Hyrule. Can't the goddesses just unflood Hyrule then later? I don't know. Maybe the Deku know this, maybe they don't.
Kady Roberts:Yeah. I don't know. But yeah, that's part of the reason why they gain the ability to fly around with their little leaf propellers is to go from island to island up and plant these seeds.
David Geisler:I see.
Kady Roberts:Which is the ceremony that they do every year and you have like a whole quest line where they have to be all planted at the same time. And if one batch is not good, then they have to wait a whole other year. So the trees are withering and the only thing that'll help them is that the water from the forest haven. And so you go around. You have thirty minutes on the Wii.
Kady Roberts:You have twenty minutes, I believe, on the GameCube Okay. To go around and water these 11 different trees in order for it to work.
David Geisler:Wow. Yeah. That's right.
Kady Roberts:It's really cool. It's a whole thing. On a cuter note with the Koroks, much like the Kiwi are named after types of teas, the Koroks are named after types of trees, specifically in Wind Waker. So they all have different tree and, like, wood names, which I think is cool.
David Geisler:That's cool.
Kady Roberts:And for directly where they come from, the Koroks come from Koropukuri or Koropukuru. That's what it is. It's little creatures that hide in butterbur plants in Japanese folklore.
David Geisler:Oh, really?
Kady Roberts:Yeah. So they, like, have direct ties and it's also why they're known as the spirits of the forest.
David Geisler:I see. I have one here for my magical circle.
Kady Roberts:Which I think is fun that they go from the children of the forest to the spirits of the forest. As if they've almost passed on. Yeah.
David Geisler:I think that actually really tracks. That actually makes quite a bit of sense. Mhmm. The children of the forest aren't quite part of the forest yet. Right?
David Geisler:Yeah. They're just the children in the forest, and now they're and now these these spirits, these these essences are literally part of the forest.
Kady Roberts:Mhmm. They make a little jingling bell song sound whenever they walk, which I think is really cute.
David Geisler:Yeah. I know. I always wondered, like, what was going on there.
Kady Roberts:Yeah. And they are made of really light wood, so that's why they're able to propel themselves. Yeah. I had this in my notes. It is the great Deku trees hope that the islands will join as one land by planting the trees together.
Kady Roberts:They are wooden, but they have the little leaf masks on them. And apparently, the Koroks make these leaf masks themselves to help depict their personality.
David Geisler:Oh wow. I think is because maybe they don't even have faces anymore.
Kady Roberts:Don't even have Oh,
David Geisler:this is awesome.
Kady Roberts:So they make these little leaf masks for themselves, so some of them look a little bit more sly, some of them are a little bit more timid. It's just so they can off the forefront be like, this is how I am as a person.
David Geisler:Because if you think about a Korok without that mask, I mean, that probably totally tracks. That's their normal, I guess, natural state. Yeah. Because they don't need eyes, they don't need mouths, they don't need any of those things. They're just sentient little They're
Kady Roberts:just logs.
David Geisler:Yeah. Yeah. Very cool.
Kady Roberts:They also do not tend to appear to people, which is why it's so interesting. Well okay. So we'll start with Wind Waker. Yeah. They only show up once the Daiga tree is like, it's okay, my children.
Kady Roberts:Like, he will not hurt you. They all show up. Link is surprised. He has, like, the big camera zoom in zoom out moment, like, woah. Woah.
Kady Roberts:And there are the Deku. However, then when it comes to breath, it's not a thing of, oh, we are hiding from you in the leaves and then we show up because Daegu Tree said it's okay. They are surprised that Link is able to see them when they're just walking about.
David Geisler:Mhmm.
Kady Roberts:So it becomes this whole thing of do they have this innate ability whether for preserving themselves or just from being spirits, so to speak, only certain people can see them. Yeah. Because at first I was thinking, oh, Link is the only one who can see him. Maybe it's tied back to these other things, but that's not true. There's a random merchant you can find named August who mentioned seeing Hetsu.
Kady Roberts:And it's like, did you see that giant like dancing green thing? Like, I tried telling people about it but no one knew or no one could see him. And it also points out in Age of Calamity, which how canon is that? We don't know.
David Geisler:Sure.
Kady Roberts:They go to the Lost Woods and Link is able to see Hetsu the entire time. And it isn't until Link points it out to the group, then they can see him.
David Geisler:Oh, wow.
Kady Roberts:Which is very fascinating.
David Geisler:My impression was always that it's that like people just don't notice. Like they're looking at them, but they're not seeing them.
Kady Roberts:Yeah. I kind of think of it as a way of some people just have more of a natural ability to see into a different plane of existence than others. Kind of like some people, like, this is whether or not you believe this kind of stuff in real life, but are tied to like doing like tarot cards or like that kind of stuff. Some people are just more naturally able to, like, know this. And maybe that's because with Link, he has all these different lives.
Kady Roberts:But then you could also argue, then why didn't Zelda see it? Maybe it's because Link was a part of the Kokiri at
David Geisler:one point. Right.
Kady Roberts:But then why can August see it? So it's a lot of just guessing and I kind of like that they leave it up to interpretation there as well.
David Geisler:I'm fine with it too, yeah.
Kady Roberts:Yeah. Last little thing I have before we can you know, just keep on chatting about whatever.
David Geisler:Yeah. No. This is getting good.
Kady Roberts:Yeah. Why I was saying the kikui being herbivores at the beginning was very interesting and fun of why they are not related to the koroks. It's because the koroks, this is in the encyclopedia.
David Geisler:Mhmm.
Kady Roberts:Because they are plant based creatures, they fear vegetarians.
David Geisler:And that's why they they aren't in Skyward Sword? Is that did I hear you right?
Kady Roberts:Oh, I I don't know about the Skyward Sword. Oh. Just because
David Geisler:the Herbivores.
Kady Roberts:Yeah. Because they're plant based creatures, they are afraid of vegetarians. That's a big fear of theirs.
David Geisler:Okay.
Kady Roberts:They don't like they don't like people that eat veggies. So I just think that's a fun little point that they put, like, right at the end.
David Geisler:I see. I see. Yeah.
Kady Roberts:But yeah. That those are my, like, big notes about the koroks. But I don't know. I've always found them to be just such cute and interesting creatures. I finding out that they were the Kokiri beforehand kinda adds a lot to it as well for me.
Kady Roberts:I hope to see them more in, like, newer releases. I I think it's interesting that they're starting to switch to the Deku though.
David Geisler:Well, you know, I don't know. And we don't know really where Echoes of Wisdom is necessarily, like, on the timeline. Mhmm. But Echoes of Wisdom does feel more like a throwback
Kady Roberts:It does.
David Geisler:Story.
Kady Roberts:Because it feels more like in the time when the Kokiri existed. And then Yeah. It was the Deku Scrubs.
David Geisler:Yeah, absolutely. I agree. And I I don't think and the Deku are a totally different race than the Kokiri or the Koroks. And so they could exist at the same time, but it does also feel like Nintendo's pretty much doubled down on this Korok aesthetic. The
Kady Roberts:cats are fighting.
David Geisler:Cat fight. We got a cat fight in the studio. I was getting a little distracted as I was trying to put this sentence together. Oh, well, just let it be. By the way, don't know, the cats snuck into the studio here.
David Geisler:I think they pushed their way through the edge here. But the Koroks, I totally lost what Oh, it feels like Nintendo's picked this as their aesthetic for the last Yeah. Mean, been that way almost twenty years now. If Wind Waker, which is almost twenty years old, was the beginning of this aesthetic and they just stuck with it all the way through tears. I feel like that's what Nintendo is going with.
David Geisler:There's really no Koroks or Kokiri in Echoes of Wisdom, Well I guess from a gameplay point of view, how are you gonna make these little things
Kady Roberts:Yeah, don't from a gameplay, and I also, thinking back, wanna be as surprised if they just took them out for Echoes because it came right after Tears and people were getting really fed up with the Koroks in Tears.
David Geisler:In like real world, really?
Kady Roberts:Yeah, in real world because of all the quests. People were like strapping them to stuff and shooting them into space. They were talking bad about them online. So I wouldn't be surprised if they're like, okay maybe we switch gears just for a game or two and then we'll bring them back.
David Geisler:Yeah, that's interesting. Yeah, well I mean Nintendo, I'm saying this with love, asked for it when they made it so that you could pick up a Korok and attach them as an item to like the whole Ultra Hand stuff, you know what mean? The backpacks?
Kady Roberts:It's honestly some of my favorite content that came out of tears, I'm not gonna lie. Was seeing the things that people were doing with the Corox. That being said, I love the Corox. They're very dear to me. I would love to get like a little plushie of one, if I can find it.
David Geisler:It'd be great. Yeah. I'm sure they 100% they exist. Right? Oh, yeah.
David Geisler:They're so easy to sow those things. I see. I see. Well, I mean, where do you think the Korok go from here? Do they just stay are little seeds?
David Geisler:Are they that for thousands of years now? Is that what they are? Spirits of Yeah.
Kady Roberts:I kinda hope so, honestly. I feel like they've reached their peak. I don't wanna see them come back down. I like them there. I think their peak character design, honestly.
Kady Roberts:They're fun. They're cute. They got like a sad tragic backstory too long.
David Geisler:Yeah. I I get it. I like it. They and they talk enough. I guess I am, you know, well, actually, one thing we didn't fully double down on was the the transition.
David Geisler:The Fado tran oh, because you haven't really gotten there in the game yet, so you haven't really experienced it yet in Wind Waker. The the Kokiri. If I remember correctly, I haven't played Wind Waker since our Wind Waker HD episode a couple years ago. Mhmm. I think you literally see a human style
Kady Roberts:You do. Saw pictures It's like a ghost version of the one that Link has interact with, and he talks about how they evolved.
David Geisler:Yeah. And he was the last one, and so then when you bring in, is it not not Faro? Faro's the Kakiri.
Kady Roberts:It was like Mifo or something?
David Geisler:Yeah. Maito. Maito. Maito. You bring Maito in who becomes your kind of, like, plus one character for a dungeon or two.
David Geisler:That's kind of, like, the last that's the last time you see a human style Kokiri, but even that Kokiri's passed away as a spirit, as a spirit. Yeah. So maybe, okay, so maybe the But it's not an adult Kokiri, it's still a kid looking Kokiri. Yeah. So it's not like the Deku Tree said, alright I'll lift the spell, all of you can live out your lives, but when you pass you'll become Koroks or something, like the spirits.
David Geisler:You'll go from the children of the forest to the spirits. That had to have been a choice. When you get there, I can't remember. Pay attention as to why Pharos says he's in I think it's the Earth Dungeon or whatever is where he's at. We'll have to we'll to find out.
Kady Roberts:Yeah. No, I will say one of my favorite moments so far playing Wind Waker is when you rescue Mido from the Forbidden Woods and he plays his little tune and the Korok starts singing with him. I was not expecting singing and I loved it. It was so cute.
David Geisler:Yeah, absolutely. Absolutely. I Wow. Wow. Yeah.
David Geisler:Cool. Well, maybe that's all we have to say about the Korrax. Yeah. I don't know. I'm wondering if there's I'm struggling right now because my brain feels like it has 20 questions, but I don't know what the questions are.
David Geisler:But I guess we'll get, we'll have them answered as we continue to play more and more Zelda games. Yeah. Truthfully, my emotion right now is I wanna go grab my Zelda encyclopedia, which is sitting right over there. I'm like, what happened? How did this, what?
Kady Roberts:Yeah, we're gonna do that. We're gonna flip through. So before we end though, David, where can they find you?
David Geisler:The listeners can find me online on all the social media platforms at raptor paint, and that's that's really it. That's fine. You know, could talk about my other shows. I used to do that a little bit more, but you know, still making some other shows out there, but really anything I'm making for Six Five Media is also on the bottom of the Another Zelda Podcast website.
Kady Roberts:It's great. Go check it out. As for me, I just wanted to add that. It's great. Go check it out.
Kady Roberts:You can find me on Instagram at katie stargazing, and
David Geisler:That's great. Go check it out.
Kady Roberts:Oh, thank you. Yeah. That's Kate. You can find me on my website at katieroberts.com, k a d y. And then for another Zelda podcast, you can find us on pretty much everything at another Zelda podcast or another Zelda pod.
David Geisler:We're only another Zelda pod on x. Everything else is another Zelda podcast. So almost at this point, I'm willing to just say like, hey, we're another Zelda podcast.
Kady Roberts:Yeah. You'll figure it out. It's awesome.
David Geisler:Cool. Cool. Cool. Alright. Well, we'll see you next not next week, but next episode, Katie, where we're gonna do a good old fashioned, hey listen episode.
David Geisler:Yeah. Excited. Yeah. You've never been a part of one of these yet.
Kady Roberts:I've not.
David Geisler:They're they're a lot of fun. They're I think it'll be the fourth one we've done total. We usually try to do at least one every season or two. And because we've just had so much listener feedback, I guess building up that we would like to talk about address and read, it'll be a essentially, it's a guest guest, you know, guest feedback guest listen to me. It's like I'm at work right now.
David Geisler:A listener feedback episode where we'll be addressing all the different things that people have, thoughts and comments they've had about the show. And so that'll be a nice fun low key episode. I'll see you in two weeks, Katie.
Kady Roberts:Yeah. We'll see you.