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Conversations from the Hype Network; Business innovation, technology, and current events from a faith-filled perspective.
Ps Adam: Sorry.
Arun Koshy: I should have come.
I honestly, I'm going to watch
the recording multiple times.
Ps Adam: We are on.
Oh, we are on?
We're live?
Arun Koshy: This is
Ps Adam: Arun
Arun Koshy: apologizing.
This episode is me apologizing.
What's new?
Um, but welcome to the Hypod episode 44.
Spectacular.
I'm your host, Arun Koshy.
We got Pastor Adam and Vance here today.
Yo.
Um, we're excited.
This is the last episode for the year.
Last episode for the year.
Christmas.
I'm excited to see what we chat about,
what we get up to and then see what
we can plan out for the year ahead.
Yeah.
But, um, I'd like to get
started with the hype event.
Yes, I went to yeah.
Yeah.
Ps Adam: Uh, Vince didn't show
up, uh, simply because I think it
was in London and Frankfurt and
he's a little bit busy building
Arun Koshy: organizations.
Before you tell us how it was, can you
explain to like our viewers and our
listeners, what is the relationship
between Vive, Hype Network and what
these Hype events are meant to do?
Oh, that's beautiful.
Uh, so really what we've
Ps Adam: got at Vive Church, uh,
Vive Church is where Hype Network is.
Uh, started from really from a desire to
really bring together, uh, our innovators,
our community of builders that have
got faith at the core of their life.
What I really saw in the early
days was that living in the Silicon
Valley, there was a lot of talk
of success being successful.
But what I found is you can have
success without fulfillment and it
doesn't matter how successful you get.
What you really need is fulfillment and
without the faith component, you could
keep pursuing success endlessly and
still be empty, but really what we did
is how do we bring people together and
pursue fulfillment that sometimes not
just comes, doesn't come just from your
own success, but the success of others.
And so that's what the network
came together from there.
We want to provide value hype events
that bring industry leaders or
conversation that provoke ideas.
Uh, and then also you get networking
with other collaborators, people
of faith who are also invested into
entrepreneurialism, inventing, uh,
starting companies, investing, whatever
the, the kind of space, like how
special you are or your specifics, it's
just coming together as a community.
Now globally, that's why we're hosting
events in Frankfurt, London, wherever
we have a Vive location that can
support the community base, uh, and
draw from our community, uh, voices,
experts, uh, that speak into it.
And, uh, I think it's just been an
absolute brilliant element of Vive Church.
I think it's a unique space.
There's many different networking events.
There's tons and tons of like,
you know, uh, I guess things that
you could sit in and talks, but.
None that I've seen with this level
of faith component that is unashamed
at the same time that is so strategic,
uh, in really taking people to not
just one of the, one of the phrases
we say at Vive is it's not just about
having better, it's about being better.
You know, there can be a shoot about, it
can be a pursuit of having a better life,
but you will never have a better life.
Unless you'd be a better person.
Wow.
And so I think that
that's the nuance of hype.
Vance Roush: That's so cool.
Yeah.
While you were in Europe, um, uh, we
had also a hype mob mentor call and
it was just so cool because it's these
crazy ambitious people and there's
actually multiple networks as password.
I'm said of crazy ambitious people, right?
There's things like Y Combinator out
there and a plethora of organizations
that I've even been a part of.
In some form or fashion, the unique
thing about hype is the crazy faith
component to the crazy ambition, right?
It's this kingdom minded.
Um, we're going to incorporate prayer.
We're going to incorporate prophecy.
Uh, we're going to have a
kingdom minded encouragement.
To how we build each other up and that is
just such a unique flavor to this network
Ps Adam: Yeah,
Vance Roush: that is so life giving.
Yeah that every time i'm privileged enough
to help lead one of those mentor calls.
I'm just blown away I'm blessed by it.
Yeah, so it's so cool.
Arun Koshy: Yeah Have you guys had any
like I don't want to call it testimonies
But any stories from either from the
mentor calls or from like some of these
hype events that you've heard from?
Oh, I mean
Ps Adam: we've got We've got
tons of stories from, uh,
especially the networking.
I mean, we've had people find co founders.
We've had, uh, people really
get inspired to actually start
the company, um, get traction.
We've even had people have funding,
uh, from, from angel investments
or different things like that.
So, I mean, we've got tons of stories.
I think my, one of my favorite ones,
uh, are probably the ones I get the
most often, which is a very basic.
I didn't know.
That what I do on a day to day could be
fulfilling a kingdom purpose good And
just that connecting to building a company
is fulfilling a kingdom purpose Um, I
know it sounds really simple compared
to you know, I got funded or whatever
But I think it's just such a a beautiful
piece that I think has been outside of
the church I feel like we've had to keep
church and business separate, right?
But the amalgamation of the two
is just I think really fulfilling.
Vance Roush: Yeah It's been interesting
because even just uh the network
as a representation of what we talk
about the hype pod Um, and one of
the offerings that we have in the
network being this conversation, I've
seen bless a lot of people, right?
Because there's a lot of off pulpit
conversations that we have in this
space that people are interested in
because when they navigate current
events Um, and obviously we have kind
of a tech bent based on our location.
Mm-hmm . Uh, they have questions.
Yeah.
Right.
How do we think about ai?
Yeah.
How do we think about crypto?
How are we meant to think about
these things happening politically?
Mm-hmm . And having a
Kingdom Mind perspective.
And we don't have all the answers right.
But just a take.
Right, right, right.
That is maybe counter to the other
three podcasts that they listen to,
I think is refreshing for people.
Yeah.
This is cool.
Arun Koshy: That's cool.
All right, cool.
Well, um, let's just jump right into it.
And so from context, if you did join
and I was apologizing, it was because
I was apologizing for not showing up to
our Christmas spectacular vibe, but it's
because I was in New York and there was a
few stories that I'd like to chat about.
And for our last podcast of the
year, I think we should do a
tinfoil hat segment, especially
with Danielle in the room producing.
Let's go.
So there has been this mysterious
report of drones over New Jersey.
Have you guys heard about this?
I've
Ps Adam: seen, yeah, I've
been reading about this.
Arun Koshy: Okay, so the government
has acknowledged that there are drones.
Ps Adam: Yeah.
Arun Koshy: Um, but for some reason, you
know, have not identified where it's come
from, you know, who's flying these drones.
Is it all fake?
You know, whatever it is.
Um, and so it's not just some drones.
Ps Adam: I've heard reports of upward of
800 drones spanning like from what, New
Jersey to Ohio or something like that.
Yeah.
Arun Koshy: Yeah.
Even in Ohio, I heard reports.
Yeah.
And a lot of these people were sharing
it on Tik TOK, social media, and
then now it's kind of been picked
up by kind of like the news across
Ps Adam: people trying to shoot them down.
Arun Koshy: Like this
is getting out of hand.
So now it's time.
Put on your tinfoil
hat let's go your eyes.
What do you think it is?
How
Vance Roush: do we not know
Arun Koshy: the answer?
That's isn't that crazy?
I don't know the craziest part
about it makes no sense Government
can't figure out whose drone it is
Ps Adam: I don't know.
I think my tinfoil hat is uh, definitely
not i'm definitely not going to
go to the extraterrestrial Okay.
Yeah, I don't think it's from outer space.
I definitely think it's so biblically.
You
Vance Roush: don't believe in aliens
Ps Adam: Um, I believe in demons
um foreign entities for sure, uh
You What's harder to believe that
something's coming from outer
space or another dimension, right?
You know, so so I believe in different
entities different dimensions.
Yeah, uh, I think people believe in
multiverse Um, I think that there are
realms so for sure the bible talks about
different realms Um spiritual realm
physical realm, so I think that there are
entities that cross realms, um how they
manifest Uh in what form i'm not sure.
Um People have seen demonic things
before so that would look alien esque.
So, uh, I think anything coming
from another realm that doesn't
necessarily mean it has good intentions.
Um, but Regardless, I think these
particular drones if we zero in on
this I definitely think it's because
it's isolated over america I think it's
our government technology I definitely
think it's our government technology.
We can't say anything about yeah that
If they're not like Actively worried
like if the military aren't mobilized
that tells me that's the indication
to me to say hey, that's theirs They
don't want us to know what they've got.
Of course.
Yeah, but don't panic because it's
us guys, you know what I mean?
like Making it.
And it's for our defense.
Stop letting China know we're doing stuff.
You know what I mean?
And that's for our defense probably.
I don't know if it's for our defense or if
it's, uh, if there's like, 'cause there's
rumors they're searching for things.
Mm-hmm . You know, um, nuclear warheads.
I heard a report that, that America,
since the 1970s says lost 12.
Nuclear warheads, like, like unaccounted
Vance Roush: for unaccounted, like it
was an inventory lost, but obviously
stolen, concerning, you know,
Ps Adam: where's the warhead,
Susan, where did you put it?
Uh, no, it's like definitely being
sold on the black market, uh, by
probably, you know, someone in
the CIA or whatever, but, but 12
unaccounted for warheads gone missing.
So the rumors are that they're searching
for radiation pockets or whatever it is.
But.
I think I don't know if
that's just conjecture.
I don't know if that's just
a narrative, uh, you know A
story that's gone out there.
Is it training?
Is it you know?
Uh nighttime training or mass, you
know, uh endurance of of battery life
or whatever it is, you know I don't
know but I did hear a report that this
happens this time of year for the last
three years Oh interesting over langley
over these different places that it's
happened for the the around the two
weeks before christmas Every year
Arun Koshy: for the last three years.
Yeah I've heard a lot of reports
that the U S is a little bit
behind on drone technology.
Um, are we ahead?
It's also possible, but if you were
doing a test of these covert drones and
the normal person caught you, come on.
I think we kind of failed
a little bit, right?
Yeah.
That's a little bit concerning.
We should be, you know, at this
point, nobody, like if we can catch
it, you know, yeah, that's a problem.
Yeah.
Ps Adam: I think it's just
very, it's very bizarre.
Like it's just bizarre behavior.
The fact that it doesn't look like
our military being mobilized to stop
this or prevent this, cause surely
we've got like, Hey, there's a drone,
send up an Apache, you know, fire
it out of the air or whatever it is.
Um, or I don't know if it's like,
you've got some poor regulations or, or
legal things that you can't just shoot
something out of the sky, you know?
I don't I don't know
about all that red tape.
It is america So we are the land of
red tape, but it's just so bizarre
That there is zero explanation at all.
Vance Roush: Yeah.
Yeah, or is it just a big psyop, you know?
Is it just a big kind of look
over here while we do stuff?
Oh, yeah
Ps Adam: Is it um a streamer?
Who's having a big joke?
Yeah, right, you know putting
up these things and now they're
gonna reveal later that I we
just caused so much You know what
Arun Koshy: I mean?
Yeah, and that's the power
of tiktok really right?
It's like you can kind of put
these clickbaity kind of you
know Ideas out there and then it
just gets caught can we just ban
Vance Roush: tiktok already?
Well, I feel like tiktok is like
really toxic Are you on the side
Ps Adam: of yes, let's ban it.
Is that I am Okay, and
Vance Roush: that that is like
hard for me to say because i'm
like a pretty hardcore capitalist.
Yeah But I just I think I'm on
the camp of, it's definitely
spy technology for China, right?
Because there, there is this
thing in, in China, right?
I think this is common knowledge
where they are able to mandate at
any time, the Chinese government, uh,
for any company to be able to give
all the data to the government, which
Ps Adam: is not good.
Vance Roush: That's not good.
And, and literally tick tock is.
Probably bigger than Instagram
now at this point in the US like
how much data they have On us
Yeah.
Like that we can just be handed
to the government at anytime.
Probably already has an open stream.
Right, right.
To the government at any time.
Yeah.
That's crazy.
And they turn off the mic,
they turn on the mics,
Arun Koshy: right.
Automatically.
Was it Pegasus or something?
Yeah.
But that you have to ask, there's
a reason they don't allow us
based social media platform.
Of course in China it's not, there's no
Vance Roush: reciprocity.
Yeah.
Ps Adam: Yeah.
What does that do though
for a global market?
You know what I mean?
Like if, uh, if the rest of the
globe keeps doubling down on
TikTok, that becomes the social.
Media, uh tool for the rest of the globe
Does that isolate the united states?
Or is the united states just
big enough where everyone will
follow, you know, what's up?
They're just so interested in what's
happening in the united states Does
this create a chain reaction of
nobody cares about tiktok anymore?
Vance Roush: I mean u.
s market I think is still The most
significant market right outside
of like india and china, right?
And so I think it'll cause a big ripple
effect if it's banned from the u.
s But I just I I'm on the camp of I I
get concerned about national security
with And so outside of that, outside of
that, like dynamic, I, I've been on it.
Like, I also think it's just not good.
Right.
Right.
Right.
Like, I think it's really toxic.
Right.
Um, I just, and I know
a lot of people short
Ps Adam: form,
Vance Roush: like what, what
is, I've known until it's almost
like the algorithm is too good.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Like everybody that I know that loves it.
Yeah.
Knows they spend way too much time
on it Like even more than like reels
like you can get sucked in but you
can get out Right, they're still like
you still have your own human agency
every like the people I know that like
are super into it They would admit
I spend way too many hours On it.
So is
Ps Adam: the outcome?
Um, it's going to either
be banned or it has to be
Arun Koshy: bought I think yeah,
that's right now and actually just
today I think the supreme court just
agreed to listen to their plea To
kind of reverse the ban, I think okay.
Um, I think it was january 19th.
The ban was supposed to go right
So they made an appeal so they
made an appeal Um, it went to the
supreme court and today they said
they'll hear them out basically so
Ps Adam: The supreme court are hearing
an appeal by a chinese company to
continue doing business in america Yeah,
Arun Koshy: and I think trump is
a little bit softer on this matter
than than biden was previously.
So we'll see We'll we'll see what what
this ends up being Um, I think the
big counter argument for it I think
a lot of people are on the side of
you know for the privacy That's why
the government's doing it a lot of
the actual users of tiktok in the u.
s Are saying this is an
impingement on their freedoms.
Yeah their freedoms.
Yeah, because they make money exactly
So so how do you like if you had
to bring that perspective and do
you feel like they have a point?
Ps Adam: I think they
Vance Roush: have a point.
Ps Adam: Yeah for
Arun Koshy: sure.
Ps Adam: I mean, I don't I don't know.
Um, I think I think you have freedoms
You To within American companies.
Right.
But if, if it has been like ver
like verified that this is a Chinese
company who has access to privacy
data, all that kind of stuff, I don't
think their freedoms to enjoy, right.
I think that's like,
that's just being silly.
Like I'm all about freedoms and
that's why I'm, I'm like you, Vance.
I'm very much a capitalist.
free market, all that kind of stuff,
market of ideas, market of thought.
But if you know the way that the CCP
operates, is they're going to literally
just be mining data and the mindless
young people who are under control.
I mean, I go as far as saying that I get
worried where our phones are made, you
know, after we saw what, uh, Israel could
do with, uh, you know, the pages, do we
all have bombs in our pocket like that?
Because there's.
Malware on here or spyware, just
because it's been made in China.
Um, does that mean that we all are
susceptible to something or should we go
back to American made hardware, knowing
what the capabilities are out there?
I think the shocking thing about what,
uh, Israel was able to do to Hamas with
blowing up the pages, uh, makes you kind
of think, well, is my car made in America?
Is my is my technology made here because
if that can be accessed and the bat well I
mean we've all seen batteries blow up like
what what what is a weapon that could be
used against people at any Point in time.
I mean you you gave us permission
to put the tinfoil hat on.
No, no for sure Looking
at me like i'm afraid.
No.
No, I was thinking about
look at me that way Do you
Arun Koshy: fully trust the u.
s government to not also have that access?
I think I
Ps Adam: think I trust the u.
s government over foreign governments
Arun Koshy: for sure Can I ask,
is it just because you live here?
Yeah, because I'm a resident here.
So
Ps Adam: I've got to believe that
the government has to Be, uh, people
first now, obviously there is this,
uh, drain the swamp, uh, get rid
of bureaucracy, the deep state.
Okay.
That has moved against the U S people.
That's, that's kind of scary, but I
think optimistically with what Trump is
trying to do is bring America first back.
Where it's like about our people, our
protection, build a border, you know,
build a iron dome over America like
Israel has, you know, let's fortify
our country to protect our people.
I think even with the immigration
laws is all about, Hey, let's protect
the people that are here before we
prioritize people who aren't here.
And I think that that is where I want a
government to work in border protection,
in people protection, upholding laws.
So I think.
That, you know, having a law around
a foreign company, not infiltrating
American society is a good law to
have a hold in my opinion, whether you
call that a freedom or a law that's
for protection, that's different.
Arun Koshy: Yeah.
Do you feel like, um, cause this,
this is the next step where I've heard
some like discourse on this was people
feel like this is like a gray area.
Now you can get to where like you start
with TikTok and now all of a sudden this
BBC, there's like censorship, right?
You can pick and choose.
Who you want to ban if it's
not a us based company or a u.
s based like entertainment
business Um, are you concerned
with this being the first step in?
Potential like a slippery slope a slippery
slope like for example people users
of tiktok say it's nice to be able to
get content From around the globe and
now you're saying, you know, maybe we
won't get that level of content that
we had before Was it curated who knows,
you know, you can have that debate
there, but yeah curious what you think
Ps Adam: Yeah, I think we've
got I don't think it's it's all.
Um, you know All things aren't
equal in this situation.
I think we're working with a very
specific regime that has a communist
as Vince was saying a communist agent
in each company who can report for the
government They sit there on behalf
of the government in the company.
Does the BBC have that?
No, are they a private company?
Yes In in China, there
are no private companies.
Everything is open to public Domain as
far as the government control, right?
And so I think what you've got is,
uh, this, this very specific regime
that is not an ally with America.
I think it could be the same with.
Uh, different Middle Eastern countries
or whatever is an opponent to America.
We should probably have
the same boundaries, right?
Russia maybe have the same boundaries.
Uh, but if it's UK, Australia, uh,
countries that are in alliance,
uh, I think that that's a
different rules and regulations.
So this is an interesting
Vance Roush: topic on the
media component of it, right?
Cause you kind of have an AB test in
your life where you consume media in Yep.
And then America.
Huh?
What were
Ps Adam: their differences very much?
Okay.
How so?
Well, america has a world view of america.
I think what the best best way
I can say it is, um, the world
series of baseball It's not a world
series, it's American clubs, right?
But that's the mindset, is world news
as long as America's involved in it.
But in Australia, I would see news
about countries that Australia's
not even involved in, but it's just
what's happening in the world, right?
There's a landslide here, or something
happening there, or whatever,
there's a conflict over here.
But, but moving to America, I just
realized, Everything is framed
through the filter of America.
Uh, and if you did ever see anything,
even remember when we first watched
the Olympics, I was like, how
do you watch the other events?
There's no way to watch an event
that doesn't have an American
Vance Roush: in it,
Ps Adam: right?
No,
Vance Roush: specifically
an American winning.
Ps Adam: There's no, there's no
event where American comes last.
Um, but like, we're not watching
ping pong, but you know, if
you just watch the events.
And not the tally you would think
America's winning, but then you can
look at the tally and go, Hey, well,
how come China has so many gold?
You know, how come
Australia's faring so well?
I didn't see them win one, you
know, cause they just don't show it.
Plus that actually the other
biggest thing was the hero stories.
The most annoying thing in the
world is you go to watch a swimming
event, but there's five minutes
of hero story and then like a 30
second event and it was like, Wow.
You just really scratched
to get a hero story.
You know what I mean?
It's like their dog had a limp,
you know, when they were younger
and that inspired them to swim.
Vance Roush: It's literally what
American Idol was built off.
It's like, we love it.
Americans love that.
Ps Adam: But I think that's, you
know, this is, uh, I think what we
got is the people who are against
the Tik Tok thing are definitely
those who are making money off it.
Um, yeah, for sure.
You know, sucks.
For sure, but I'm
Vance Roush: redirected, right?
It's still so that's why it's like
not necessarily just a free market
question because it's still free market
Like you just take that energy go
to Instagram reels Maybe you lose a
little bit of money, but you can still
make money as a creator in America.
It's different competition, you know,
Ps Adam: and, and maybe they've just
made such a mark or a following,
you know, on Tik TOK, um, that
it's an easy, you know, audience.
Uh, but you know, the other week you
were talking about, uh, blue sky, you
know, the appealing thing with blue sky
is that you own your audience, you own
your followers, all that kind of stuff.
Uh, do they really go with
you to another platform?
Theoretically you
Vance Roush: can yeah,
Ps Adam: but but if you actually are
an influencer, they'll find you on
another platform Like if if I really
like following Arun stuff All of
a sudden the room's not on TikTok.
You're on reels, you'll find them.
I'm gonna go find you.
Mm-hmm
.
Vance Roush: Well, like Tucker Coston.
Right.
Exactly.
Ps Adam: They'll follow.
I think that's the test of followership.
Mm-hmm . Is like, I'm not on Fox
Vance Roush: anymore, but follow me here.
Right.
But that's the test
Ps Adam: of leadership, right?
Yeah.
If you go somewhere,
do people follow mm-hmm
You know?
And so I think that that's,
it's not, it shouldn't be
restricted to a specific platform.
Arun Koshy: Yeah.
It's good.
I think that's why these platforms
pay so much for these influences.
Content creators.
Content there.
Yeah.
Like they will pay out because
they know they have the power.
Right.
And once those creators realize
they have the power, are
Ps Adam: people loyal to a
platform or to a personality
personality that they follow?
Right?
For sure.
This is a good test
for, for, uh, platforms.
Arun Koshy: Yeah.
And I think we're going to see
if let's say it does happen.
TikTok does get banned and
people don't want to use YouTube
or Instagram reels, right?
Somebody will create.
Oh, for sure.
Guys, it's not like,
it's not going to happen.
That's why we still
Vance Roush: exist in a free
market because it will get created.
Yeah, exactly.
Yeah.
Arun Koshy: So I think like it's
kind of overblown, but we'll see
what, we'll see what happens.
I mean, obviously, like you said,
their algorithm is kind of unmatched.
Yeah.
How that happens is a little
bit suspect, but if you
Ps Adam: were going to build the
new version, the U S version of
Tik TOK, what would you call it?
And what would you, uh, what would
you, uh, what features would you add?
Interesting
Arun Koshy: fully, it has to be, I think,
in the same realm of like full privacy.
Okay.
Decentralization.
Okay.
Just cause I'm in crypto.
It's gotta be, you know,
some aspect of that.
And I think a lot of the ideas
of ownership of data would have
to be everything you do allows
you to generate revenue yourself.
Like whatever you do, your following
allows you to generate revenue yourself.
And then the company takes a
much smaller portion of that.
Ps Adam: Wow.
Arun Koshy: In relation to that.
Ps Adam: Wow,
Arun Koshy: I wouldn't build it
because that's not a great business
model for me, but right Yeah,
Vance Roush: I I kind of miss
the days like let's just take
um, i'm not as much on tiktok So
let's take instagram for example.
I actually kind of miss the days of
it being more chronological What do
you think you can configure it now?
Oh, really?
Oh, because that that's what I was
gonna say What does that mean, you
know because like the algorithm
just shows you kind of what they
think you'll engage with most right?
So it's not necessarily you can
Ps Adam: get a post that says
five days ago Yeah, like if I open
my instagram sometimes it'll be
Vance Roush: literally like five days
ago because it was a pop and post
right or Whatever that a lot of my
friends are liking right, but it's
kind of like I don't know if I want
that Yeah, sometimes I think I want
to just go towards like chronological.
Yeah, just like a regular timeline, right?
Yeah, and
Ps Adam: if I missed it, I missed it.
I missed it.
Yeah,
Vance Roush: you know what I mean?
Interesting Yeah, um, I I think I missed
that or at least I want that option Yeah,
Arun Koshy: you know
Vance Roush: Yeah, but
what would you call it?
Arun Koshy: Yeah, what would
you call it new tiktok?
Timeline.
Oh, dang.
Ps Adam: It just fits to
your, your desire timeline.
I just think that that's not
Vance Roush: like even on X, right?
Um, it is kind of a chronological stream,
but it's not because, because when I
open up X, I have to go through 20 Elon.
Yeah post from the past week.
Yeah.
And then I get to basically show you
Arun Koshy: like highlights
of what you just missed.
Like you said, which is all Ilan.
And then you'll get Yeah,
Ps Adam: you think you'll need
to chill a little bit on it.
Vance Roush: I don't know how he
does this all I'm just genuinely
can like disoriented by how he
does everything he does because
it doesn't make any sense to me.
He does like hour long gaming
streams in the middle of
Arun Koshy: running massive companies.
When does he sleep?
I don't understand.
I really don't.
Vance Roush: But he also has kids.
Ps Adam: Yeah, he has a family.
And he's meeting at the White House.
Yeah.
Vance Roush: He took a picture of like,
The stack of papers like related to
doge because they're about to probably
fire 80 80 percent of people I'm
like when you have time to read that.
Yeah, are you are you
actually reading that?
Yeah,
Arun Koshy: do you think it's
pure manpower do you think he's
like fully in machines AI to
help I think he's got neural ink
Vance Roush: He's he's
definitely got some enhancement,
Arun Koshy: he's definitely got some it
has to be an enhancement somewhere sure
Vance Roush: But I do think that he
actually does the work He does a lot of,
Arun Koshy: I think he has
a lot of people around him.
And I
Vance Roush: think he
selects really good people.
Really, really good people.
I think he has like just
killer people around him.
Arun Koshy: Yeah, I think I was hearing
somebody talk about why he's so good.
And he asks all the right questions.
It's not that he's like,
just has all the answers.
He knows the right questions
to ask because he has all
the right people around him.
And that's why he's so successful and
he's able to make so many big moves.
And so, yeah, so I don't know.
I think, He knows that.
You guys have talked about it, right?
It's just like being in the room.
You don't have to be the
smartest person in the room.
It's actually, you better not be actually.
However, he is.
Yeah, he definitely is.
I think in every room, he's the smartest.
But what do you consider
to be the smartest?
Is it the ability to answer all the
questions or to ask all the questions?
No, I think it's both.
Ps Adam: I think I think in my situation,
it's the ability to ask the questions,
but I think in Ilan's situation, uh, he
can ask the question, but also answer it
better than the person answering it wrong.
That's kind of what it was rhetorical.
You know, uh, I've, I've had people
who meet with Ilan, tell me that
they were asked something, he
corrected them in their answer.
He corrected them in their stats.
Wow.
And they were meant to be the professional
on, on bringing the stats and he
corrected them and they went back
Arun Koshy: and said,
actually, he was right.
That's truly just somebody just
understanding, basically being able
to understand everything, right?
So you can take an answer and not just
take it at face value, but understand it
in context and then be able to respond.
Even though he didn't have
the numbers, probably he's
like, that doesn't make sense.
It must be more like, but
I'm going to tell you,
Ps Adam: there's probably areas.
I'm more of an expert on than Elon.
Wow.
Yeah.
It has to be, I mean, if it
came up to Bible knowledge, I'd
probably have a go preaching, I'd
step up, you know what I mean?
Currently there's areas that you're
more of an expert on than, than Elon.
Yeah.
Um, but he's expert in
specific areas for sure.
That seemed like a lot because you
know, he's in, he's in so many, but I
think what, what I think is remarkable
about Elon is his just ability to keep
multiple things going at a high level,
you know, that's, that's just impressive.
Yeah.
Maybe we should ask him about the drone.
Arun Koshy: He would
know he probably knows.
Yeah, but actually, uh, on the
Elon stuff, did you guys see he
teased the new email service X?
No.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
He teased the new Mailing service
to call me with gmail called x mail
Ps Adam: x mail.
Arun Koshy: Yeah, I don't like
Ps Adam: x as a name guys
Yeah, I really don't like it.
I still love it so
Arun Koshy: much But like
what's his kid's name again?
It's like x x it's just x right?
He's got a car that's Platform
really likes that letter.
Ps Adam: Let's pitch timeline
Arun Koshy: I'm like really that
name if he just said now it's
actually It's like such a good name.
It's like
Ps Adam: hey, I was on timeline today.
Yeah, that's actually fair.
I like that Yeah,
Arun Koshy: that's such a good name.
We trademark that I don't know what we're
going to make, but timeline's coming out.
Timeline is coming.
2025 timeline is coming out.
But yeah, xMail's coming
out, um, allegedly.
Um, I think he's going to do like end
to end encryption, simplified interface,
the same AI integration that he has.
Okay.
Um, but I think it's
part of his super app.
Oh.
That he's essentially creating a
super ecosystem of like, do it all,
stay with an X, um, kind of thing.
How do you guys feel about
your, what Gmail, I'm assuming?
I'm assuming.
Vance Roush: Yeah, currently Gmail.
I use a client on top of it, Superhuman.
Oh yeah, you were
talking about Superhuman.
But it's underlying, it's Gmail.
Arun Koshy: How do you feel about, like,
the current Are there things that you
think need to be improved or for sure?
I hate email.
No,
Ps Adam: I hate email.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I mean, I, I've, I'm very excited
about, uh, an X mail because,
uh, I love everything on X.
I love Grok.
I just love the timeline.
I love the interface.
I love the site.
Um, I like being able to have the
Vance Roush: feed.
What have you been using Grok most for?
Ps Adam: I use it pretty
much for everything.
Yeah, just brainstorming.
Yeah Yeah, uh brainstorming ideas logos
concepts different things like that that
I just want to get out as a draft Uh, and
then give my team an idea of something.
Have
Vance Roush: you incorporated
Ps Adam: into sermon prep yet?
I have incorporated into sermon prep,
although I did actually the other day,
I kind of like the other day, I, uh,
we're preparing, we're recording out 10
days of prayer and fasting and I wanted
specifically scriptures on spiritual
warfare and I could have gone to my
concordance or my logos, uh, and done it,
but I just went, I said, let me try grok.
Grok spat out, you know,
10 epic scriptures.
So I'll be like,
Vance Roush: okay, let's use it.
And it was way faster.
Huh?
Oh my gosh.
Ps Adam: Okay.
Okay.
Okay.
Like
Vance Roush: 10x
Ps Adam: faster.
It was just straight away.
Yeah.
It's just bang, bang, bang, bang, bang.
You know, 10, I gave me 20.
Arun Koshy: You know, overachiever.
Overachiever.
Well done Grok.
Are you guys nice to your
AI when you guys use it?
Just curious.
Ps Adam: I don't know.
I don't say
Arun Koshy: please.
Okay.
There's a lot of people with, they'll
give you guides on how to use.
AI and they'll give you these
things about, you know, you
should be nice, these manners.
This, this is
Ps Adam: actually a whole thing.
Did you know this?
Yeah.
Yeah.
That, uh, there's, uh, what's that?
It's like empathy.
Mm.
People have empathy for things for ai.
Yeah.
Yeah.
No, they have, they have empathy
for like the weirdest things.
Yeah.
Like, um, you know,
your, your Roomba Yeah.
It's like.
People turn on the light just so it's not
having to clean in the dark, you know,
it's like, because it's like a technology,
personality, empathy thing, like, uh,
different things where you'll, um, for
instance, there's empathy about how,
like it's inanimate objects that have no
personality or no feelings or anything
like that, but you have an empathy to it.
So it's like, they hang up clothes,
uh, leggings with leggings because
they want To have a friend, you know,
it's just like in irrational, okay,
Vance Roush: that's, that's a rational
and odd, but I will say I listened
to this thing from the founder and
CEO of Priceline who owns booking.
com and he was talking about AI
and he was saying, obviously,
like one of the exciting things
about AI is in travel support.
Right.
Um, a lot of people get frustrated, uh,
calling the airlines, calling hotels
sometimes and complaining and feeling
like they're not getting anywhere.
But with AI, you can just yell at it and
it's always going to be like happy back.
And things like that.
And I was like, I was thinking about that.
It did kind of rub me the wrong way.
I was like, I wonder if all of
customer service becomes AI, do
we lose our decorum a little bit?
And do we, if we lose our decorum in
that, let's say it's, um, it's not, You
know, uh, unethical to do that, right.
Cause it's an inanimate, whatever, right.
It's not a human being, but like, if
you're practicing like that, wouldn't you
just carry that over into real humans?
You know what I mean?
Probably like, so it made me feel a
type of way when he said that I was
like, well, I don't know if that's
like going to be good for humanity.
It was like, we're, we
more easily scream at.
AI.
Arun Koshy: How, like our
patience is going to get reduced.
We're getting instant answers.
Like you just said, you
asked it for something.
It gives it to you immediately.
Now you have to go and
interact with a human.
You're asking something and
Ps Adam: it's just like, yeah.
But I don't think like, you know,
if I don't like the answer from
Grok, I'm not saying do it again.
Dummy.
You know what I mean?
It's not like I'm getting personal.
You haven't used it enough.
Don't
worry.
Ps Adam: Give it time.
Harun has definitely done that.
You idiot.
Give it time.
Just calling it names.
Put yourself on timeout.
The word question's for you.
I'm using Gemini.
I exceeded the question.
There was like a daily, uh, I think
just on my version that I had, I
upgraded though, but there was like
a, um, you've used all your visual
things or whatever it is, you've
used Burn Too Much Energy for free.
Yeah.
But anyway, I think that that empathy
thing is actually a fascinating
collaboration as AI comes out as
technology robots, that kind of stuff.
How do you
Vance Roush: treat your optimist?
Yeah, exactly.
It's going to
Ps Adam: be like, interesting,
Vance Roush: you know, exactly
how, how much should we, you
know, really consider that?
My only thing is like, I'm not
like so over, uh, Oh, you gotta be,
it's, it's like same as human being.
Cause it's definitely not.
But my, my fear is like, if that.
Build your character in a way because
you've had so many were so much
repetition being rude that that carries
over Yeah, the rest of your life.
Yeah, I mean, it's it's a fascinating
interesting as a fascinating, but I
think that's gonna happen in our lifetime
Arun Koshy: Yeah, but I think as these
Technologies get more real and more
human like I think that will like cease
to exist like when like a robot starts
to like Respond in a way like it has
a very human like very human like I
don't think you'll be able to do that
Ps Adam: Yeah
Arun Koshy: If people are doing it
to a room by now, imagine the room
was crying All right, i'll go clean
and just crying around leaving a
Ps Adam: little puddle Now in the future
the room but we'll turn the light on
I guess i'll do it self empathy self
Vance Roush: respect.
I don't clean in the dark
Arun Koshy: Just sassy.
Yeah,
Ps Adam: it's cleaning all my floors.
I was doing the light It's so crazy,
it's so funny, but I think that's
a real Thing that people have where
Vance Roush: did you find that
like but that like even the
hanging the clothes It was this
Ps Adam: conversation.
I was listening to kind of remember
where the conversation was, but it
started with This they're at the race.
I think it was a Formula One race
Mm hmm, and he's there with his
girlfriend and there's a car that you
know maybe had a crash or something
like that, but it was trailing by
a long way and and the girlfriend
is like Oh, no, it's so far behind.
You know what I mean?
And I Okay.
Yeah, cool.
And then they're like, she's like,
it's a point really anxious, like
feeling empathetic, like about the
little car that couldn't do it.
You know what I mean?
And, and, and they're like, they should
stop the race and let him catch up.
You know what I mean?
It's like, that's not the point
of the race, but the whole race,
just anxious about, come on, you
can catch up cheering for the last
place instead of the first place.
Cause there's so much empathy for the
poor little car that can't keep up.
And then when they finished
the race, it was doing a lap.
And then she was apparently saying,
yay,
Ps Adam: it caught up, but he didn't have
the heart to say it's the victory lap,
but that's that, just that human empathy
that I think will play out into AI.
And I think that that empathy
closure is probably the danger
zone of making a robot personal.
You
know
Ps Adam: what I mean?
If you can do it with a Roomba
or a car that could, you know,
It's definitely dangerous
Arun Koshy: in
Ps Adam: interesting
Arun Koshy: optimists.
Have you like there's a lot of fear
right now going around with like
this, like AI companion, right?
These personal kind of chatbots, like
voice bots that are going around.
There's like, I think the market for
it is growing like exponentially.
It's like, oh, it's crazy.
It's insane.
It's insane.
Chatbots.
It's essentially like dating basically.
Dating basically.
Oh, just someone
Ps Adam: to talk to.
Compan.
Yeah.
Basically like companion,
like loneliness, cure,
Arun Koshy: yeah.
Yeah.
And there's like, there's versions of
it, like essentially therapy, right?
Yeah.
Like essentially therapy.
But to cure loneliness, right, which
is in a way also making it so you're a
little bit more lonely because you're
just going to be kind of with this.
Non human, so it's kind of
making the problem worse.
So it's really interesting.
Yeah.
So it's really interesting, but
I mean, like this is on the rise.
Like, I mean, this is not, this
is like a very small part of
where they think it's going to go.
Well, I mean, loneliness
is an epidemic, right?
Ps Adam: Where I think because of more
online interactions, we're isolated.
Um, and you, you're building
your own prison, right?
With, with, I mean, going back to
TikTok, is it a, is it a robbing
of people's freedoms or is it a
protection mechanism from yourself where
you're building this online prison?
So you're actually out.
You're not free because you're
enslaved to a, a algorithm.
Vance Roush: It's kind of a recipe.
It's ingredients for the faith space
and also like probably other adjacent
spaces, like the sports space to explode.
Right.
Because I do think that it's not like the
end all be all cure, but it's definitely a
place in a space where you're less lonely.
Right.
And I think the peak
experiences in worship.
In, uh, church, right?
Faith space is the church gathered.
Right?
Um, in addition to that, like that same
type of energy is like in sports, right?
Formula one events at football
games at basketball games.
So I just wonder how, how those
industries continue to just evolve.
Take off in an increasingly
interconnected world digitally.
Ps Adam: Yeah.
I think the real winners
in the Instagram, right.
TikTok X, um, timeline,
uh, world is the thing now.
The young content creators.
Oh yeah.
Because they are getting rapid demand
for content, which is honing their craft.
I think about when they get to an age
of like, Real seriousness what all
these skills can actually produce.
Uh, and so I think it's not the consumer.
It's the creator.
It's a creator
Arun Koshy: Yeah,
Ps Adam: it's
Arun Koshy: a creator.
Um, it's really interesting that
you said the sports thing the church
thing makes sense like this in person
gathering Um, there's like that human
connection that you can never get rid
of but the sports experience like the
online viewing experience seems to be You
like it so tailored It's like improving
so much that they're like giving you
such an experience at home that you
can't get When you're there, right?
That's true, right?
It's a different experience a
different experience like with
all this stuff Like have you seen
like the animated like do you see
Vance Roush: they like it?
Uh, like on streaming better
Ps Adam: Oh, sometimes
I hate going to this.
Oh, for F1.
For F1.
F1's the worst.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
F1's bad.
It's so bad.
You're watching on this.
Yeah.
And you're at.
Yeah.
And you're back to this.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Unless you're in the paddock club
or you're like at some bougie
booth or something like that.
But that's just more for status.
Right, right.
That's more for status.
And even then, if
Arun Koshy: you're there, you're
probably mingling and like less.
You're not really watching.
You're actually watching the race.
Exactly.
So,
Ps Adam: but you still get 100,
000 people to go to the race.
You know, so I just think the online
experience is way better, right?
Arun Koshy: Yeah, for
Vance Roush: certain sports
Ps Adam: is
Vance Roush: for
Ps Adam: sure.
Yeah, right.
Arun Koshy: Do you feel like
there's a space there to improve
the online experience to then like
bridge that gap so that we can
kind of bring that human element?
Yeah,
Vance Roush: I mean like the sphere,
right, like what we're doing with
the sphere, it's like, you're
blending, you're blending the, uh,
digital experience with in person.
Um, and so for me personally, I get the
F1 cause we went to an F1 thing together.
I get that.
I wasn't even really into F1 until we
went to that, but it's hard to watch
in person, but like, uh, football,
basketball, those are kind of the main
two sports that I watch in person.
It's freaking awesome for me.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Like you feel the energy.
Mm-hmm . In the room, like it's that.
Does it depend
Ps Adam: where you sit in the bleaches?
Are you still got the energy
or are you like Not as much?
Yeah.
It really depends who's around It depends.
It depends who's around
Arun Koshy: you.
The crew that you go with.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Oh, a hundred percent.
Yeah, for sure.
Because like you could argue then if
it's like you crew like doing that
from the comfort of your home with
your crew in front of like a TV that
have fair, you have all the views.
Fair.
Yeah.
That's fair.
That same energy.
But it depends if you're like.
That kind of person that gets recharged
from like these strangers that you
all get together that, you know.
So is an interesting Yeah.
Kind of debate about which is better.
I mean, they're getting so much
investment about like all these animated
versions of these football games.
I think they just did the, the
Simpson version of the Cowboys
versus Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Oh, that's so rubbish.
So they're doing all that I think mean
there's a huge Toy story story Fun that
to, for kids and stuff, stuff like that.
I think for kids, I think it's for kids.
That's dumb.
Yeah.
. But I, there's like, Nickelodeon
is now streaming like these, how
Ps Adam: disappointed is that
kid when they grow up and they're
like, oh, this is not real.
You don't play against Spongebob?
Who is that
Arun Koshy: guy?
But really it goes to show, I mean it's
the NFL that's doing it, but they are
ruthless in terms of capturing viewership.
Yeah, because NFL's
Ps Adam: the worst sport.
Arun Koshy: What?
Ps Adam: Well, I mean it's
Arun Koshy: I love the NFL.
Ps Adam: No, I'm sure you do,
because you're American, right?
You've been conditioned to And
advertising sport, it's a sport
built around advertisements.
So it's, it's super American.
You mean the sport itself is bad?
Yeah.
Arun Koshy: I explained this.
Ps Adam: I mean, you
think about it, right?
It's, it's not a flowing sport.
It's people crashing into each other.
It's.
It's called football, but you
don't really use your feet.
It's, it's a ball thrown to someone
open and you just run across the line.
Right.
The skills aren't that great.
I mean, look, I know that I'm going
to get a lot of hate for that, but
I mean, it's like, it's a line of
people just blocking each other.
It's like, take turns, run for,
Let's have a break, you know, like as
opposed to soccer where it's a flow.
You can't have an advertisement in the
middle of a half, you can't stop the game
for a TV promotion, you have to flow it.
And you got like a quick half break
to do all your advertisements in
it's like, it's not built around TV.
That's why soccer doesn't work in.
The states right because you can't
commercialize you can't go up and put
the kettle on and you know, get a hot
dog You know, you just you're literally
gonna stay and watch the game interesting
because that would be cricket So the
attention span I think of americans
has been shortened and conditioned.
Oh for sure to quick short quarters halves
those kinds of things turnarounds that
yeah, so I think it's just it's Growing
up in uh, I would say more of a european
influence country You A sport that flows
and the whole objective is the game Uh
rather than the activities around the game
or the interactions or the highlights and
that kind of stuff I just think that nfl
from that aspect is not the greatest sport
Arun Koshy: interesting The soccer aspect
of it is weird because like it is flowing
, but there's so many stoppages in soccer.
Like there's so many, they're quick
stoppages, flos, and yeah, flops.
There is, there's a lot of flops.
Ps Adam: Yeah.
But there's like,
Arun Koshy: and there's no action
Sometimes, especially our Italian
action, there's like, I mean there's
like the good teams for sure.
What, what, what do you
call talking about goals?
You're talking about scoring goals?
Yeah, scoring goals.
You get maybe a goal, a game, like,
I don't know what the average is in
a soccer game, but like you watch
all of this quality over quantity,
Ps Adam: brother . Okay.
You want like fair enough, a
hundred to fair enough to 90
scorelines on action, right?
My gosh.
On action.
But also all these points
that cheapens the goal.
If everyone's scoring 20 goals, how
Arun Koshy: cheap are the goals?
Well, I'll say that baseball was better
when they were hitting a lot of home runs.
And now it's,
Ps Adam: I don't know about that.
You see, like, you think about, look
at the reaction from a soccer team.
So it's like euphoria.
You're saying euphoria.
Oh my gosh.
Because that goal is so rare.
It's like the crowd goes crazy.
But they go crazy because it's their team.
No, no because their team
scored a goal, right?
Right.
There's keep score to go But if
you score 20 goals, it'd be like
whoo, we scored another one.
This
Vance Roush: reminds me about
marriage Wait get into it get into it
This reminds me about purity culture
Ps Adam: No, but let me think about
it like the intensity of like I
mean you go to like Germany in the
Bundesliga and you've literally
watching like the hooligans.
They're jumping the whole time.
That's crazy.
90 minutes.
They
Vance Roush: are much more fanatical.
Um,
Ps Adam: and then when they
score a goal, it is like amazing.
Vance Roush: Yeah.
Ps Adam: And, uh, I've been, I've
been to NFL games and score a goal.
Some people still just stuff
in their face with a hot dog.
You know what I mean?
It's like, it's true.
It's the passion level.
Is that just
Americans though?
I do love a good hot dog.
Arun Koshy: Everyone's
like, what's wrong with you?
Yeah.
What's wrong?
Yeah.
It sounds like a great experience.
What's wrong with eating before and after?
I have to eat during.
I have to have my popcorn,
my beer, you know?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
But before we wrap up for this
podcast, by the way, um, to start
the year next year, Chris Ulusi is
going to come in to challenge you
on your first guest of the year.
Gonna be there, NFO player.
Um, but I wanted to wrap this up
with just like a yearend review.
Just kind of go back,
share some highlights.
Just highlights.
Let's just share highlights, keep
highlights positive for this season.
Yeah.
Um, yeah, for the podcast and for
just your kind of hype highlights.
Hype highlights, whatever
you, you guys do.
Right?
Dude.
The hype
Vance Roush: house at Amen.
That was.
Specifically, uh, chef MJ's experience
at the Hype House for one of the lunches.
Oh my goodness.
It was, it was an experience.
It was incredible.
It was probably some of the
best dining I've ever had.
And it was at our church.
But it was cool because, um, you know,
the Hype House is these conversations,
but like hundreds of them happening.
Simultaneously under this
tent parking lot situation.
In the heart of the Silicon Valley and
there's like there's nothing like it.
So that was like a standout
That was a core man.
Yeah, for sure.
Ps Adam: Yeah, I think Probably
one of the best experiences hype
this year has been the membership
Moments the mentorship calls.
Those are good.
That's just really getting I think
granular with those who are very
invested in the, in the hype world,
seeing them, you know, come alive
and, uh, that build, uh, I think
seeing them operate at hype and seeing
them on our little hype sessions,
you know, hype house hype sessions.
So I think that the membership
experience has been the highlight for
Arun Koshy: me.
Cool.
And then looking forward,
what do you guys want to see?
There's a lot of changes happening
kind of in this, in the scenes
of hype and everything going on.
Shout out to Pastor Ben who's
joined in on the efforts.
He's involved, Katrina, Ben,
Ps Adam: Arun, we're stacking the team.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
We are stacking the team.
That's a great team.
So what do you want to
see, yeah, for 2025?
For 2025, um, we are going to
be expanding Hype, scaling it
to every single Vive location.
There will be an expression of Hype,
either Hype Light or Hype Heavy.
Ooh!
Uh, depending on how we can
frame it up at each location.
Um, and, uh, the update on
the HypeCon Dubai, the dates
did change because of Ramadan.
Okay.
We were rookies.
Okay.
And didn't realize that there's
this thing called Ramadan.
Um, and so it will now be happening
on the 23rd and 24th of April.
Let's go show notes.
Get in the show notes, change
your tickets, uh, your flights
and, uh, it's going to be great.
Yeah.
Um, anything else you guys want to chat
about before we wrap it up for the year?
I mean, it's Christmas.
What's on your wishlist?
Oh.
Top of your wishlist.
Arun Koshy: I
Ps Adam: don't really have one.
Don't you say that.
I don't really have
everything that I need.
But what do you want?
Arun's the guy who just
buys what he needs.
He doesn't, doesn't wait.
Do you wait?
Do you
Arun Koshy: guys wait?
Yeah.
High price items for sure.
Yeah.
I don't know.
Yeah.
I just, if I wanted, I get it, you know?
I'm not kidding.
I mean, that's, that must be nice.
Where's the magic of Christmas?
Must be nice.
Yeah.
Uh, would you guys wrap gifts and
put your own stuff under the tree?
Or do you say, if I want it, I'll
get my partner to buy it for me.
Or how do you guys do that for these?
Yeah, because they don't
get to do anything.
Ps Adam: You know, I mean like that.
What do they do?
Oh, yeah You couldn't bring
the magic back man, right?
That's true.
Wait, so you don't want anything?
There's nothing
Vance Roush: for me my
clouds Running shoes.
Yeah, it's probably on its last leg.
So I asked people for I actually wanted
to switch it up maybe some hokas That's
too cushiony for me I haven't tried it.
Arun Koshy: No, they're good.
I'm on the Clifton 9's.
They're great.
HOKAs
Ps Adam: are fantastic.
Oh, really?
Yeah.
I mean, HOKAs are good because
if you don't like them, you can
Vance Roush: send
Ps Adam: them back.
Vance Roush: Oh, okay.
Even if you've used them.
Well, in general, I
need new running shoes.
Yeah.
So that's like one of
the things on the list.
How about you guys?
Ps Adam: Uh, I've got a hunting bow.
Matthew's hunting bow.
Oh, that's right.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yep.
So, that's on order.
Comes after Christmas, but, uh, you
know, there's some accessories with that.
It's quite an expensive
sport, believe it or not.
I'm finding out.
Um, but, yeah, that's, uh, that's
what the girls are getting me.
Oh, that's awesome.
Yeah.
Arun Koshy: Well, now
I want a new computer.
I don't know, now I want things.
Quantum computer.
Oh, quantum.
We could have got into it.
But Google, Google's on the come up guys.
Oh, they're back.
They're back.
Vance Roush: Google's
Arun Koshy: back baby.
We poked the bear.
You know what, it seems to
Ps Adam: be that Google have
been here the whole time, but
not worrying about anything.
Yeah, really.
Just being like, cool, you can say we suck
at products, but we've got one coming.
Yeah.
That is the product.
Arun Koshy: It's really, really
cool what they're getting to do.
I mean, have you guys
seen the video stuff, VO2?
I haven't seen it, no.
Um, so you guys remember
the Sora AI, OpenAI?
That was kind of a flop, right?
Right, and then Google
came out with theirs.
And it's way better, right?
Do you remember that video of
Will Smith eating spaghetti?
That looked really I'll show
you guys later, but essentially
I think it was a few years ago.
Will Smith was eating like AI
generated Will Smith eating spaghetti.
Like it looked terrible.
And then Google came out with their
version of that video and it looks like
somebody eating spaghetti, like in a
matter of a few years to get that level.
I'll show you guys the differences of two.
It's crazy.
I mean,
Ps Adam: they've been
cooking underground, man.
I feel like they've got some of the
most smartest people in the world, just.
Hidden away somewhere
Arun Koshy: tucked away.
Yeah.
Cooking crazy tech.
We'll see.
We'll see what like creating the story and
the product is a huge part of the battle.
So we'll see what that does for them.
But yeah.
Oh yeah.
That will seem excited.
Stocks up.
Yeah.
Stock is up.
Huge, huge, huge.
Well, it's been a great year guys.
Merry Christmas.
Very, very Merry Christmas to you guys
and Merry Christmas to all our listeners.
Yes.
Um, we're excited for 2025.
We really are.
Cheers.
Yes.
Ps Adam: Merry Christmas,
Arun Koshy: Daniel.
Merry Christmas.