Dental SEO 101 Podcast

🔍 LinkedIn Engagement: What Works Now
A recent LinkedIn study analyzed over half a million posts and found:
  • Posts with links get 13.57% more interactions and 5% more views.
  • Carousels drive the highest engagement (45%).
  • Polls double engagement rates.
  • Pure text posts perform worst.
Takeaway: Next time you post about your practice, add value with links, try interactive polls, or experiment with carousels to stand out!

🦷 Google Business Profiles: Watch for Review Bugs
A pesky bug is causing old, fake, or previously removed reviews to show up again in Google Business Profiles. Google has acknowledged this, but fixes may take time.
Tip: Double-check your online reviews and report persistent fakes. Stay vigilant, as these issues can resurface unexpectedly.

🤖 AI Search & Overviews: How Dentists Can Stay Visible
AI is changing how people search—and how Google decides which practices get seen. Organic search traffic is seeing a shakeup, but not all drops are bad news for patient acquisition. Here are Ross’s top tips:

1. Add Structured Data (Schema Markup)
  • Think of it as a roadmap for search engines. Highlight key info like services, staff credentials, or new technology for richer search results.
2. Target 'Long Tail' Search Terms
  • Use natural language phrases, especially for voice search. Patients are searching with full, detailed questions more often.
3. Use Authentic Images & Videos
  • Regularly create and share office videos or patient experiences (with permission). Batch filming can create months of content in a single day!
4. Prioritize YouTube
  • Repurpose videos for YouTube. High-quality, authentic dental videos can boost local visibility.
5. Encourage (But Carefully Manage) Interaction
  • Discussion and comments can signal valuable content, but moderation is key to avoid spam or headaches.
6. Update Key Content Regularly
  • Refresh cornerstone pages when you upgrade technology, add staff, or change locations. An up-to-date site signals life to both Google and potential patients!
🚩 AI Content & Google’s Quality Standards
Google’s new Quality Rater Guidelines are here. Key points:
  • Don’t publish generic, low-effort AI content. Always edit, personalize, and expand with your expertise.
  • Avoid misleading claims. Double-check AI-generated facts.
  • Add value above the basics. Your unique perspective and local reputation matter!
🛡️ A Look Ahead: Controlling AI Access to Your Content
There’s early buzz around a new standard, LLMs.txt, which seeks to let site owners better control how AI crawlers (like ChatGPT and Google’s Gemini) use your content. While still in the proposal phase, it's something to watch—and First Dentist will be ready to implement when it’s industry standard.

đź’ˇ Final Thoughts from Ross
SEO and search are moving targets—especially with AI in the picture. But with the right strategy, dental practices can keep growing. For personalized help or to get your next question answered on the podcast, drop us a line at info@firstdentist.com!
  • (00:00) - - Intro
  • (00:36) - - LinkedIn Engagement Study: Links & Carousels
  • (01:51) - - Google Business Profile Bug: Removed Reviews Resurfacing
  • (02:56) - - Improving Your Site's Visibility in AI Search
  • (04:17) - - Tip 1: Add Structured Data with Schema Markup
  • (05:26) - - Tip 2: Target Long-Tail Keywords for Voice Search
  • (07:31) - - Tip 3: Incorporate Images and Videos
  • (10:18) - - Tip 4: Encourage Visitor Interaction
  • (11:14) - - Tip 5: Keep Your Content Fresh
  • (13:11) - - Google Quality Rater Guidelines Update
  • (15:56) - - AI in Search: Google AI Overviews Self-Linking Issue
  • (16:53) - - Google Using AI to Clean Up Paid Ads
  • (18:03) - - LLMS.TXT: Proposed Standard for AI Content Crawling
  • (22:51) - - Closing & Contact Information

What is Dental SEO 101 Podcast?

The Dental SEO 101 podcast is your ultimate resource for optimizing your dental practice's online presence! The host, Ross Dunn, simplifies the complex world of digital marketing, offering strategies explicitly tailored for dentists.

Each episode covers essential topics such as the fundamentals of SEO, local SEO strategies, and tips for enhancing your website's visibility. Learn actionable techniques to attract more patients and boost your revenue while maintaining exceptional customer service.

Whether you're a seasoned practitioner or just starting out, Dental SEO 101 equips you with the tools to thrive in today’s digital landscape. Subscribe now to ensure your practice is set for long-term success, and take the first step toward a profitable future!

Dentists

that own their own practice, provide customer service, excellence and

work with a professional SEO make the most money

welcome to Dental SEO101, a podcast dedicated

to helping dentists retire well, hello and welcome to the Dental

SEO101 podcast, episode number six by First

Dentist. My name is Ross Dunn and I'm the Director of SEO and

co founder of First Dentist. Well, let's jump right in here.

We're going to start off with some non SEO news. Just because

it seemed interesting enough and pertinent enough, a

LinkedIn study has shown how to increase engagement

now this is just in case you spent some time on LinkedIn. You know, keeping

up in the latest dental trends from thought leaders or being a thought leader yourself.

A LinkedIn study by Metropol analyzed 48,000

company pages over three years, analyzing more

than 577,000 LinkedIn posts. Not

bad. The results found that posts that include links get

13.57% more interactions and

5% more views than posts that do not include links. This

contradicts what other studies have said in the past and other experts

have claimed. Historically, it was suspected that LinkedIn displayed posts

with links less often. Now this study shows that about

31% of the analyzed posts contain links and those

posts consistently outperformed ones without links. The study

also revealed that posts using carousels had the highest

engagement rate at 45%. That is

seriously impressive. Posts using polls also had

about twice the engagement rate of regular posts. Text only

posts showed the worst performance of any other post

type all right into general SEO news. This is going to

be annoying. If you haven't already noticed it, Google business profiles

had a bug resurface that is now showing old

fake removed reviews removed air

quote this is so annoying. The dumpster fire that is Google

business profiles anyway they consumed Google has

confirmed this. This is a bug. We're fake and old

removed reviews were resurfacing for some business

profiles. As if it isn't hard enough to get rid of bad

reviews that are garbage. I personally have issues

with a number of clients where there is no way

at all that Google, if they had anyone manually reviewing

them, would believe these are real. They're just

unbelievable. But somehow they don't get removed. And to have

them finally removed and then see them come back again, that would be infuriating.

So if you've seen this, hopefully by the time you listen

to this anyway, it isn't an issue anymore. These bugs do

take a while because Google puts local on the very, very low tier of

importance. But yeah, let's let's hope. All right,

what can you do to improve your site's visibility in AI search? This

is something that First Dentist we're focusing on

a lot for obvious reasons. I mean,

AI is consuming the world

and search engines more. So in many ways,

the search results we've seen since five years ago have

dramatically changed. We've seen AI overviews everywhere and

that is dramatically cutting into people's organic traffic.

Now, how much of that traffic is actually traffic that would have led

to getting a new patient? There's debate around

that because we have seen particular clients not

see a drop in business, but a drop in traffic.

So was that traffic really worthwhile getting? It's hard to say, but I don't

like the idea that is being dropped and that there's no control

over that. Once again, Google has the final say. Well,

here are some tips for you. Now this is, I know this

is a 101 show, but it's pretty difficult to stay completely

101 when we're talking about AI overviews and trying to influence

them or just simple AI search. It does

require putting your thinking cap on and going the extra

step maybe into 102 or perhaps 200.

Anyways, first of all, add extra information with

structured data. That sounds like, oh no, what the heck are you talking

about? Well, imagine giving search engines a roadmap to

your content. By adding, you help search engines understand the

specifics of your content. For instance, if you have a recipe page,

structured data can highlight ingredients, cooking

time, calories, and this makes it easy for search engines to display your

content and rich results, potentially attracting more visitors.

Yes, I read that. But it's a good, quick and easy way to describe

what's being done. Now how to do it is using what's called

schema markup and that's structured content or structured

data. It's added to the background of the page. You do need someone with a

little bit of knowledge to do it. We can certainly help you with that. And

it's something we do implement across our clients sites.

It is not rocket science. Just like most things, SEO is

simply how you attack it.

The order of importance and being on

top of what changes are happening in the given

SEO sphere, I guess you could call it. Next, you need to target

specific detailed search terms. These days people

have longer search terms. They're typing in more specific

phrases into search engines, especially when they're using voice

search, which is happening more and more often, especially for the younger generation,

by focusing on these long tail keywords that mirror natural

speech you're increasing the chances your content matching these detailed queries

will show up. This approach can improve your your visibility in

both AI overviews search and actual

AI search engines like Search, GPT, Perplexity,

Gemini. Well, I guess Gemini is its own. But anyway you're getting that. You

get the point. Search engines that are focused on being your new

place to do search. And by the way, Perplexity is gaining a lot of market

share. Nothing like Google never, but it's actually

noticeably picking up. I'm seeing more and more people talking

about it. I'm seeing more thought leaders suggest you switch to Perplexity

to get a feel for what the new search engines in the world will look

like soon. That's pretty awesome. I mean,

kudos to Perplexity. That's a fantastic honor

to be, to be put in that light in my opinion

and I do love it. I think it's, it's great. Have I abandoned using

Google? No, because that's my livelihood. I have to go between the two,

but I'm definitely using it. So when you do this kind of

targeted specific search term optimization, it doesn't mean you're

not going to be showing up in other rankings. That's really important to note. The

way that search engines work now, they're more about.

Well, they understand, they simply understand what you're looking for. In

most cases, if you have a detailed search term, you're usually adding more

information, especially if it's voice search that they have to

draw from to provide a better result. So creating great

content with great

explanations, using terms you have

investigated and you know that you're your target market are

using is going to help you. Next you want to incorporate

images and videos. This has never really changed. We've always

suggested this, but it's becoming more and more important and it's

an uphill battle for many of our dental clients and

prospects because, well, your life is already busy

and it's getting more and more necessary

though to create video that you can show off. And it has

to be really should be authentic.

You're taking video in your office,

maybe you invite some people over there are friends that don't mind being on video

and you have them in the chair and you

chat and it doesn't matter if the audio, sure, it's recording audio.

You're not going to use the audio in your video. Probably it's going to have

a nice voiceover or simple music or

whatever, but it just shows someone smiling and in

the chair and having a great experience. Another one might be

at the desk, talking to the receptionist and doing these

on a regular basis. And then switch it up, bring up another friend and have

it there. And change the lighting slightly so it looks like it's a different day.

Make people change slightly so they're not wearing the same clothing.

You can get a lot of this video done in a single day.

Not a great fun day, but you can mix it up to have some fun

with it. You pretty much need to, in other words, to. To

ensure that next time you need to do this, these people will help again, take

them for dinner, whatever. You know, make it a fun day. But

the amount of video and collateral you'll get out of that is

immense. And it's going to make your life a lot easier for the

coming days where video is taking a front seat.

And from those, you can easily get captures for images as well, for whatever you

need that for, from ads to examples of particular

procedures, whatever there may be very important.

On that note, YouTube has become

more, even more important. So having

this information and perhaps hiring a team

to do video for YouTube,

even taking the video you've already created in and wrapping it up and making it

as something for YouTube, we do that as well. That's a good idea. That's going

to help. Will it help immediately? It depends. Depends on what the

subject is, whether or not it's something truly innovative or

really catches people's eyes. That's a different thing entirely. But

it is something you need to build on and it's going to be

harder. There's so many practices out

there that are doing decent optimization. So you

need to go above that and do greater. You need to be

a better competitor. And that's what

we're upping our game for our clients to do. Very important.

Encourage visitor interaction. That's the next bit here.

Search engines. Notice how users interact with

your website. If visitors spend more time on your pages, it

signals that your content is valuable. To boost

engagement. Create content that includes and invites

comments, shares and discussions.

Tricky. Without question, tricky. Like, how do you do

that without this getting out of control? I mean, some comment

areas will just be a nightmare to manage. This has to

be done very carefully. It's something that's recommended, but I would definitely

speak with your SEO, speak with your team, figure out what

is doable and whether or not this is just something you put on the back

burner or something you want to go full steam ahead on. You need to

go with your eyes wide open. There's a bit of management

involved for comment and

discussions. Finally, keep your content fresh.

It's been the norm for dental practices to

have content that is written once, perhaps very well,

hopefully very well, but then it just sits

and some parts of your site will be like that no matter what.

But if it is content that is cornerstone, content that really

talks about how great your practice is,

your differentiators and perhaps shows video or all the different things

that we've talked about that are really good, well, you need to keep that

lively. Doesn't mean you have to do this every week, but

keep it fresh. If there's something new, perhaps you've added new

equipment. We'll update the page. If

there's been a change in location, definitely update your

imagery and your video. If there's any changes

in how you do what you do update the page.

It is stuff that Google can see, search engines can

see overall, and it shows life to not only them, but also

to prospects who are considering your practice. All right, I hope

those have helped. I know it is a lot,

trust me, I don't think I've ever had to learn so much

all at once on a regular basis in my

28 year career of doing SEO. It's very

intense right now and it's going to get worse. Worse or better.

Depends how you look at it. I do enjoy the

yeah, I do enjoy the challenge. I just

hope that it will at some point get to a

place where this is what works and this is what doesn't work

versus always a moving target. That might be a dream

in vain though we'll see. Either way, there's lots

of work to do in with this

thanks to AI content being put out there all the time,

usually in a very poor fashion. Google has updated its

Google Quality Rater guidelines. So these are guidelines that are used by

humans to rate Google results. Google

then takes information from this these Google quality raters and

helps informs inform its algorithm as training information

so that it becomes better at noticing issues. So it's

not them directly writing to the algorithm or making changes

to what they've provided information on. Like they

say they don't like this page or is poor quality.

It may end up that that page gets dropped or

has a lower ranking yet later. But it's not because directly because of them.

It's going to be because Google has gotten smarter about what has been

provided in terms of input on its own rankings.

So that said, Google has updated it. They did it up back in January

and here are some core changes Scaled Content Abuse

Creating a lot of content with little effort or

originality, with no Editing or manual curation.

This is their answer to generative AI. This is essentially what they

meant anyway. It's, it's one example of an automated tool used

that would create this kind of content. So if you use AI

to help with content, which you should, we do hardly believe in that. Always

be sure to vet what's created and expand on

it to make it amazing. I say amazing because that's how it stands

out. That's how you will not be just yet another practice.

Main content created with little to no effort. This is a new

catch all section in the in the Raiders guidelines for low

quality paraphrased content often seen with

generative AI and other forms of automated generation.

So again, any content you create, ensure it

adds value and

it, you know, adds value is really just really where it

cuts off. But just, you know, give credit where it's due.

If it's something you need to source, rewrite

it if you feel it wasn't perfectly written, if it's not going to be a

quote, but it needs to add value and make it excellent.

Misleading claims and they're getting. Well, this is a good argument whether or

not they're truly getting good at this. But Google is getting stricter on

exaggerated or misleading claims. They claim keeping

everything honest anyway, we can dream. But the key here

is that using AI is not bad, but you have to be very careful because

it does often hallucinate, ensure what you're getting from

AI is true, high quality and vetted.

That's it. These are things that just make good sense and were

inevitable with Google's. It was an

inevitable update to the Google rater guidelines. AI in

search well, we kind of talked about AI AI, but this is sort of the

AI section. Google AI overviews are linking over

and over again to itself, which is really annoying

and I hope is fixed soon because it's. Well,

to me, obviously to me it seems as though Google is just favoring

itself, which I know they're already

in the target reticle of the Justice Department,

but this is the kind of thing that should not be happening. Anyway, there

are reports where AI overviews are adding links that point back to itself.

In an example by Matthew Kerr, he found that if you search for

narcissist, the AI overview links the search results for the term

narcissist with the same AI overview. Oops. If

you see any other oddities like that, please share them wherever you hang out because

everyone should see this stuff. It's garbage. I've seen

other things like this. I just, I Just got, I'm too busy. I just get

past it and go, whatever. Yeah, more garbage. Google is using AI to improve

paid ads. Let's consider this a win for now. I'm hoping it's win.

If you do paid ads, which many of our practices do,

it's a very good idea. Then this is good news.

Apparently. In its annual ads safety

report, Google has highlighted how AI has helped shaped paid

ads. They used AI to remove

5.1 billion bad ads, restrict

9.1 billion ad ads, suspended

39.2 million advertiser accounts. What?

Anyway enforced against 1.3 billion publisher

pages, blocked or removed 415

million scam related ads. Wow,

that's just. Those are some big numbers. It's

hard to fathom how much crap was in

ads already. Never mind how much they probably

missed. Wow. Anyway, talking about buyer

beware, it's the Internet's just such a

nutty place to be, but that's just blows my mind.

Now to finish things off here, I wanted to introduce you to something that we're

hoping comes about. It's a little

technical, but it is important. I think you'll see that pretty quickly.

LLMs text. What the

heck's that? Well, it's a file and a

proposed and it's a proposed standard for AI website content

crawling. So there's always been a thing called robots

txt. Well, not always, but for a long time in search. It's a way

for owners of a website to tell Google tell search engines

how to index its website and where not to go.

It's very, very important and very helpful. And you can

even block certain search spiders from visiting your website,

which again is a very good idea because it is.

Well, you don't necessarily want them everywhere and there's

certain content that may be sensitive or certain content that would just mess up

your search results because it's totally irrelevant.

But there's nothing for AI like there's just really nothing that's done a

good job. So Australian technologist Jeremy Howard has

proposed the use of an LLMs txt.

Of course he's alluding to large language model txt.

It's a file that aims to provide a standard way for AI large

language models to efficiently crawl and access website content

while giving content creators more control over their data use. The file would

work in a manner similar to the robots txt file, using simple markdown

language, allowing website owners to provide context on how their

content should be accessed by AI models. It would allow

website owners the ability to specify which website areas should

be Accessible Potentially benefiting SEO by guiding

AI models to relevant content. The

benefits I think we've covered a bit of them. But it protects proprietary

content by directing AI models that comply with usage directives. Again,

that comply because there are directives out there that

search engines just don't comply with. Enhances interaction with

AI, thus improving the quality of AI generated responses.

Let's hope may improve the content visibility in AI

powered search results. Offers a competitive advantage

through effective AI readiness. Debatable, but again,

hopeful. Now the challenges and limitations. We'll kind of already mention this,

but adoption. There's no guarantee that every

one of these developers and LLM creators are going

to comply with us. They're like whatever.

I want access to everything. Potential conflicts with existing robots

Txt and XML site directives. These are technical, but

if there's a conflict saying yes, no, yes, no and maybe they're looking at both

and trying to figure out which way they should go. That could be an issue.

And it exposes content to competitors for analysis.

This is an old technique that we used to use when we were doing competitor

analysis in the back in the day. Well, we still do it, but when it

was a little easier and we would look at robust TXT and

see where a competitor was blocking people from going, we go, ooh, well I

want to see what this is. So it was technically

a pretty simple way to see what the person was

hiding and that would I guess in this case do the same thing. It was

never super revealing whatever we found. But sometimes we

get a hint about what they were up to or what they were maybe their

dev site or something that would give an

indicator what's going on. Okay, taking my competitor analysis hat off,

let's get back to this. When will this attack? When will this

take effect? Well, currently it's just being discussed and

apparently implemented by some, but it's not yet universally adopted.

Until it is adopted by major industry players,

its effect will be limited. We'll certainly be

implementing it for all of our clients as soon as we possibly can.

When it's when there's a point to do. So how do you create this

file if you want to do it yourself? Well, there's certain tools online website.

LLMs is a WordPress

plugin that you can use. Never tried it.

None of these have actually have I ever tried. So do

keep that in mind. Markdowner. That's one word.

It's a GitHub tool Amplify. This is

an LML LLMs try and say that Fast

Text generator and fire crawl that's

firecrawl.dev Places to look into. If you're really

interested in finding out more, it is all very fascinating for us

SEO nerds. May not be to you, but

I think and hope it will be a part of our lives soon. Because it

is important that AIs have some restrictions and I hope it's

enforced. Who will do it? No idea.

Well, on behalf of myself, Ross Dunn, Director of SEO and co Founder

of First Dentist, thank you for joining me today. If you have any questions

you'd like answered either on the podcast for free, love to

answer some questions for you, or on a more private consulting basis,

please email

infoirstdentist.com

thank you for listening. And remember to tune into our next episode where we'll be

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