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Every Sunday night Carolyne Prevost, Jamie Latimer and Scott Switzer break down the world of CrossFit and other fitness competitions.  Tonight we talk about The US Double Gold in Olympic Hockey.  WFP announces the Champs will be back as Pros in Season 2.  All 3 Open Announcments have been announced what are our thoughts, and where are we at with the Open Sign-Ups?

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We cover the sport of CrossFit from all angles. We talk with athletes, coaches and celebrities that compete and surround in the sport of CrossFit at all levels. We also bring you Breaking News, Human Interest Stories and report on the Methodology of CrossFit. We also use the methodology to make ourselves the fittest we can be.

well it's been years but the usa did

it gold medal overtime today yes we're

going live now

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So.

And on this panel is an amazing hockey

player who who played in the great country

of Canada.

And then at Wisconsin.

And her Canadian team lost not just once

this week, but twice to the U.S.

I can't hear you guys right now.

Both men's and women's U.S.

teams won gold.

And for the men,

it has been a very long drought.

Forty-six years.

Yeah, you guys need miracles to win.

That's what you guys need.

Hey,

they say it's a rivalry between the U

S and Canada and the games are hard

fought every time.

But honestly, Canada has been the hammer.

The U S has been the nail in

the Olympics.

It is about time.

We got our due back and got a,

it was an amazing game, amazing game.

And I've got more about that later,

but I just wanted to get your overall

impressions of the hockey games and the

Olympics as a whole.

I did not watch a lot of the

Olympics, if I'm being completely honest.

I watched so much of it.

I love the Olympics, like,

everything about it.

I think it's because it was such a

goal of mine my whole life.

So, like,

I've just always been tuned in to summer

games, winter games.

Yeah,

I watched almost every single hockey game,

that's for sure.

And, yeah, it wasn't incredible.

Two games,

Canada-USA this weekend was heartbreaking.

Um, but I was in the Canada game.

I was honestly like proud of the way

that the Canadian girls came out.

Cause all year and last, last few years,

USA has been by far the best team

out of Canada and USA for on the

woman's side.

Um,

and we just haven't played well and we

just aren't as skilled and fast as USA.

And then Canada actually was like

outplaying us in the finals.

And I was like, Oh God,

like we might actually win this game,

which sometimes happened.

Like there's many years where us girls won

every world championship and then Canadian

one would win the big one,

which is like the Olympics.

So no, the girls side,

I was happy of the way like the

girls played and then also happy for,

USA.

I felt like they deserve the gold.

Like they're the better team all year.

So hats off to them.

And then today I was feeling a whole

different way on the men's side.

Cause I know we are better than the

United States of America in men's hockey

and we outplayed them so bad,

but someone played a hell of a game.

Yeah, but in a one game thing,

anything can happen.

Your goalie stands on his head.

We missed some very good chances.

And yeah, I mean, three on three overtime,

which is not the same thing as five

on five.

Anything can happen.

You get a little bounce one way and

it's a two on one.

Go back the other way.

So, yeah.

So for our weekly Fergie question,

it goes to Carolyn this weekend.

Would you rather redo twenty six point one

four times over next weekend or get a

consolation prize of a plushie toy?

okay guys this is embarrassing but this is

my this was i said this to lex

earlier this was my for you page on

instagram today like you know like your

explorer page yeah uh-huh it's all this

like the little monkey yeah is that though

is that the way they're talking about the

the toy like the monkey one just the

consolation team that got every every

meddling team got

Oh, I thought you meant the toy,

the stuffy from the monkey.

You meant the second place little toy.

Well,

second place didn't just get everybody got

the plushy toy.

Yeah, that white one.

Okay, that's what it's called.

I thought you meant the other,

because the monkey has been all over

Punch.

Have you seen that one?

Uh-uh.

I only saw it on Lex's story.

Oh, okay.

It's been all over my Instagram.

That's why.

Sorry,

I thought that you meant that little...

I want the toy.

Um, short Carolyn,

I don't know the game that well was

the Canadian coaches criticism of the refs

justified.

I know they had to,

the U S had too many men on

the ice one time.

Yeah, they didn't want to call it.

They didn't want to play a role into

the big game, which I get sometimes.

That was for sure too many men.

But then we got a four-minute,

which was deserved.

I mean,

the high stick right to the teeth.

You cannot give four minutes for that.

But then we also had a five-on-three.

We got some penalties.

I don't know.

I thought it was fine.

We had our chances to win the game.

What I will say,

as someone who watches quite a bit of

hockey, the games this weekend,

both men and women's, were phenomenal.

Like, as good as it gets.

And I texted to Carolyn and the group,

the benches are so deep.

And the talent on the ice is so

strong.

Normal hockey does not get played at that

speed.

There's so much talent in that game today.

And on the women's side on Friday,

it was completely blowing me away.

No, two awesome games.

I was on the edge of my seat

for both of them.

So fast.

Such good hockey.

But that's what you want.

You want the NHL players to be there.

And I get that there was injuries.

I mean, Crosby didn't play in the finals.

A few other teams lost good players.

But...

And I know the NHL doesn't like giving

away their players,

but we don't get to see best on

best very often.

And it is such good hockey.

It is unreal.

And every country has pride just for their

country.

It's so good.

This year's Olympics,

last year's Four Nations Cup,

both amazing.

I hope the NHL continues to do that

for the All-Star Game because there was

nothing better.

Yeah, it was awesome.

I loved it.

I'm sad the Olympics are over because

that's like all I watched for two weeks.

So I want to get into this question

because it was like the greatest hockey

ever.

And it is this pencil, pen or Sharpie.

Olympic hockey does more damage than good

in promoting the sport.

Pencil?

What damage?

I wrote pencil as well.

What do you mean damage?

Then good.

Can you explain the question?

Why would it be bad?

Because I think...

And it goes to my follow-up pencil, pen,

or Sharpie.

And that is,

it sets an expectation for hockey that

good.

And when you watch regular season NHL

hockey or regular season women's hockey,

you don't get it at that speed.

You don't get it at that intensity.

And, and so I think,

I don't think it's all bad.

I think that there is some bad that

comes from it and mostly it's probably

good,

but I do think it sets an expectation

that hockey is like this all the time.

I mean,

every game is not like if you look

at basketball, you got eighty two games.

Not every regular season game is as fast

as playoffs, you know, like baseball.

No one cares about any of the hundred

and sixty whatever games it is.

So my playoffs,

like I think that's the case for every

sport.

I agree.

But if you're a casual fan and you

never watch hockey and you watch this game

this weekend and you're like, oh,

I got to start watching hockey.

Your expectation is up here, up here,

and it's not going to meet that when

you end up watching it.

That's all.

And I do think it does more good

than bad.

So I'm not downplaying it at all.

I think it's great that the NHL lets

the people go,

but I do think it sets expectations.

And the reason I asked this question is

because I wanted to ask the follow-up.

Right.

Which is... It ties in well, yeah.

The CrossFit game sets the wrong

expectations for what to expect in

everyday CrossFit.

And I said Penn for this one.

I do think they're...

Aaron and I were actually talking about

this over the last week.

I don't even know why.

If it was one of Susan's shows that

got us talking about it or what.

Sharpie.

Yeah, I mean,

I would be willing to say that.

Sharpie.

There's still a level of...

that like racing head to head,

I think is what breeds the,

the best adaptation.

And so like seeing that,

like you may not do those exact same

movements.

Right.

And I think there's some still some

movements in the games that some people

have no business doing.

Um,

But when you see the race,

I think that's what draws a lot of

people to a CrossFit gym as opposed to

going into Global Gym and doing their own

program on their side.

Working out next to somebody breeds an

intensity that you just don't get

otherwise.

And so that's an expectation that you're

probably going to get out of watching the

CrossFit Games.

I just think...

It's so far from what we've seen in

everyday affiliate, like one,

the type of implements that are able to

be at the CrossFit games.

We don't see like in a class really

like some of them, um,

Well, if it continues to be like that.

Yeah, I mean,

you're seeing like the RX Elite version of

every workout.

And a lot of people don't grasp that

there's a scaled version that you could do

from that.

But just by looking at it,

you're looking at it and being like,

holy crap, this is...

I can never do this.

But then I think people look at their

bodies and then they're like, oh, wow,

look at how fit these people are.

I want to look like that without...

understanding the process and all the

volume and years of training and stuff but

i say sharpie just in the sense of

i think it's a false i mean it's

just scary looking for people that are

like i could never do that i think

this is a good point uh david reed

says sharpie saw the game started crossfit

not built like froning felt like i was

lied to

Yeah.

And when Carolyn said that,

like people see that,

see their bodies and come in and think

that that's maybe going to happen to them.

I can see that argument.

I, I, I mean,

some people have amazing transformations

though, just by,

so I don't want to say that it

is, isn't, I mean,

maybe not quite to that level, but like,

I don't know that ever anyone's thinking

I'm going to look exactly like rich per

se, but like,

You can get pretty – I mean,

it's really the best expression of your

body if you come in five days a

week and follow the nutrition.

Yeah, and I mean,

if you go to any regular – like

any CrossFit gym in general,

like if you go to an affiliate,

what the average –

athlete is able to do there in comparison

to the average person at a, like a,

a global gym is so far ahead in

terms of their fitness capabilities.

Um,

just capacity in general of the average

member.

Um,

like with full range of motion techniques,

not have lots that you see at global

gyms, like everywhere.

Yep.

Teresa says,

I haven't seen a sled at a gym

in a long time.

We used to do sleds all the time

when my gym was small.

The larger it got,

the less we were able to.

The classes got too big.

We didn't have enough sleds.

It's hard to like put them in the

middle of a workout and not interrupt the

class.

So I get that.

I get that completely.

But then she goes on to say,

I love the body type,

but even cooler is the badass aspect.

And I agree with her.

I think, I think, yes,

it sets an expectation that is hard to

get people off of.

Right.

But also,

CrossFit hasn't done anything when they

broadcast the games in those dead periods

to maybe talk about how this translates to

everybody else.

They're putting out some videos lately

that do that,

but they're not taking the time to place

them in the broadcast where there's dead

time.

And it's just...

an open camera on the floor or we've

talked about this and it's like, you know,

those commercials that they can put during

the breaks,

the masters CrossFit games and being like,

look, these are the individuals,

but look at what other people of other

age groups are able to do.

The adaptive athletes, the, you know,

you show the peak of all of different,

you know, divisions that we have.

And then also sprinkle in, um,

The Jillian and Nathan,

the newbies coming into it.

Newbies and just general people at an

affiliate and their progress or their

journey in CrossFit.

I think the Reeds are a perfect example.

David wanted to look like Rich.

Judy was afraid of joining the CrossFit

gym,

thinking everybody was going to be like

Jamie and Carolyn.

Right.

And so those that won't even step foot

in and those who think they can be

that,

and they're the complete opposite ends of

the spectrum.

And that's why it's so hard to market

it from that perspective,

because the world is full of different

people.

Right.

And,

and you're going to miss out on some

of them in some way.

Right.

Yeah, absolutely.

Um,

Some of my favorite videos are like these

clips that pop up of people that are

one, two years into CrossFit.

And it's like, trust the process.

And they show their one year,

somebody doing AMET setups to almost a

total bar or getting total bar.

And those are like my favorite.

That's what needs to be promoted.

Eddie, I says,

I'm a dude and I'd love to have

shoulders like Jamie.

Wouldn't we all?

Yeah.

Shanna says if they showed a short clip

of a regular class with regular people,

this is what it looks like.

And so I think this is a good

segue.

CrossFit has put out two new series of

videos.

They're both two videos each.

And they are Jillian and Nathan.

Both people who went into a CrossFit gym

overweight.

and were looking for just some inspiration

and to believe in themselves again.

And I thought whoever produced them,

whether it be Tyson or whoever put them

together, I don't know,

did an amazing job.

One, the CrossFit nerd, Jillian,

is so funny.

She is.

So funny in the way she looks at

going to a normal class.

It's entertaining to watch her,

but she's real about what she felt and

what it was like and how intimidated she

was.

And it's an excellent, excellent video.

Matt Sousa broke it down today on a

show where he showed all the great points

that CrossFit put into this.

And it was incredible.

It was.

The one piece I do agree with him

on too is if they would have built

the character for a couple episodes and

then put her to the L one,

it might've even been more effective.

Yeah.

I agreed with him on that point.

And he said the same about Nathan as

well,

because they did one episode and then took

them to the L one.

If they would have let us in,

let us stay in the real gym with

them for a little bit longer and build

that character,

the going to the L one would have

been like through the roof.

Awesome.

I agree.

But I think if CrossFit keeps doing stuff

like that and pointing out what it really

is like,

and my favorite line from the whole thing

was the L-One instructor for Nathan who

said, when you scale,

you're not scaling just to come along with

us and be that scaled athlete forever.

Scaling is to meet you where you are

and then push you that one percent more

the next day.

Correct.

Correct.

So that scaling can change and it can

modify and it can get lessened so that

you eventually meet the class at the RX.

I loved that because I think that gets

missed a ton.

And Matt said it great with,

we always reduce the weights.

We always reduce the time or the,

but we very seldom reduce the rounds and

the reps.

And he gave great tactics for leaving an

open end where they could jump in and

do more if they had some time left

or felt like they had more.

It's a great video.

If you did not see it,

Sousa breaking those videos down and how

it pertains to coaching was really,

really good today.

Yep.

They were incredible.

It was, I was watching it.

I've watched it twice through actually

just taking notes.

Cause I,

there was so much that I want to

like have my coaches listen to for

coaching.

It was so good.

I don't know where this came from.

Uh, but thank you.

I even did my hair tonight.

Thanks Ken.

Thanks for noticing.

I took Hiller's video to heart that we

should like try to look presentable and

not swear and not.

I didn't even see Hiller's video yet.

Oh, that's why your hair looks good.

Don't lie.

That's why your hair looks so good.

I haven't seen it.

Yeah.

Julie had to go away today for a

thing with a friend.

And so I,

I was cleaning up and doing some stuff

around the house.

I didn't get to everything.

Yes.

Where's the suit?

Yup.

Yeah.

I did that earlier this week.

You missed it out.

You missed it.

Judy we wonder if there will be more

episodes with them I hope so I think

Jillian is a star and I think Nathan

is very open and honest too about like

getting on a plane and knowing you're like

everybody's worst nightmare I have thought

that I have been in that head I

know what he's saying

It, it was so true.

I hope so because they are real people

and anybody in their situation can relate

immediately.

Yeah.

I mean,

hopefully they both continue to post

their, I mean,

they both have their Instagram and I hope

they continue with their journey so we can

follow along there at the very least.

So Carolyn, did you see them?

The video?

I've seen the Jillian one.

I haven't seen the Nathan one.

So Jillian,

the one where she's a school teacher,

right?

And she has to do the function at

the school dressed as a turkey.

And she has to like keep doing jumping

jacks and activities for twenty minutes

straight.

And the way that the joy she had

that she said she still had energy left

when it was over.

Like that was, that just really got me.

And her classes on the third floor of

her school.

Yeah.

It's those little victories that people

don't always understand.

Yeah.

I love her.

I love her.

I think, I hope they do more.

Clooney says the fitness industry thrives

on before and after photos.

I don't see many coming from CrossFit on

the regular.

What I loved about what Jillian said was

she's not a before and after.

She's her and she's now.

And this is where she's at now.

And she's going to keep fighting to get

better.

But she's not into the before and after.

Like she's just focused on where she is

in the present.

Yeah.

You got to enjoy the ride too.

Yeah.

Cause if she has a goal,

if she has a goal and it's to

drop like, that's a part of it,

part of an issue, right?

Like some people is fat loss.

Some people is this number on a scale.

So like, you don't even know,

like it should just be what your body

can do.

It shouldn't be, I need to weigh one.

Yeah.

Two people at one thirty look completely

different.

Exactly.

And so what if her goal was to

lose twenty pounds?

Then what happens when she gets that?

I mean,

like that's just you just you do you

need to be focused on what is happening

now.

When I went through my big weight loss

journey,

my goals changed so much because I didn't

know what was possible.

Like at the beginning,

you throw a number out there and then

at some point the number becomes

irrelevant.

It was, I want to do a pull-up.

I want to do five unbroken pull-ups.

I wanted, you know, it was,

you know what I'm saying?

Like everything changes as you get fitter

and fitter.

Well, that's part of CrossFit too.

Like there's just so many things to work

on.

You get one thing and you're like,

what's the next thing that you want to

work on?

Like there's always something to work on

and just developing new goals and new

goals.

Yeah.

Buying a new belt meant more to me

than what the number on the scale was.

Yes.

Right.

Like it just does.

Should be before pick and forever.

Yeah.

Vicki was married to the scale for years.

CrossFit and the people in CrossFit,

I learned the number wasn't nearly as

important as what my body can physically

do that it couldn't do thirty years ago.

Amen.

Yep.

Where did I start from again?

I was over five hundred pounds when I

started.

i forgot her name was jillian i just

know her as when the nerds when nerds

teach isn't it nerds who teach nerds who

i i know it's nerds i was just

calling her the crossfit nerd i don't know

yeah that's yeah uh unless you're tia then

the new goal is babies i bet your

pregnancies go pretty well though because

of all how fit she is

Yeah,

I think I have to give CrossFit an

A-plus for these.

The fact that the one criticism is I

want more tells you they were good, right?

If the only thing bad you can say

about it is it should be more.

But I don't even know what that expense

would be, right?

Like to have someone in the gym filming

her, editing all that, and Nathan as well.

I mean, they could just take her content,

both their content.

They seem to be documenting their journey.

So if they could like pull clips and

make a little bit longer form every two

months or so.

Or just collaborate on a post here and

there just to see what they're up to.

Yeah.

I mean, I want it.

I want it.

I wanted more episodes.

Jillian is a star.

She really is.

She could have her own show just talking

about this stuff.

It's awesome.

So anyway,

glad we got to talk about that a

little bit.

Jillian is absolutely hilarious.

Very good storyteller.

Something new is cool.

Redefining success.

Yes, all of those.

Wayne makes a good point here.

If you take a before picture,

you instantly have an image in your head

of what the after should be.

Anything short of that is usually seen as

failure.

When you're trying to lose weight and

you're obese,

there are so many things that can feel

like failure.

So many things.

It's really about a mindset.

And really,

I couldn't get over that until I went

to a CrossFit gym.

And I had the support group around me

to not let me fail.

Until my mindset got strong enough to do

it on my own.

And even then, you have bad days.

So...

Hopefully Jamie can relate to when your

kid forgets something in the car and you

have to sprint back to retrieve it and

you realize you are not out of breath.

That is a great CrossFit health moment.

Yeah,

I was Jim's coach at the twenty two

CrossFit games and he forgot his swim

trunks for that swim and ski workout.

So I had and we were at like

I think we're at the Holiday Inn,

the one like across the road.

So I had to run to the room

and back and it was,

it was a pretty good effort.

Like I,

it was up there in one of my

like PR miles.

I mean, I was tired, but I,

it is nice knowing that you are capable

of doing those things.

It's,

it's nice to be able to carry his

bag and my bag and not be out

of breath.

And yeah,

there's times I take some of that stuff

for granted for sure.

I've,

pretty much always been a pretty healthy

individual and in shape.

And I take,

I do take that for granted sometimes.

Like when I'm late,

when I was laid up for surgery,

it's like,

it's frustrating thing when you can't do

things.

Yeah.

Good stuff.

Let's move on to some other things.

WFP announced the two champs are back for

season two.

I don't know why they waited till last

minute to make that announcement.

I don't know what it did to help

them out, but they are back.

My question is,

does this help with the momentum going

into season two or do you think they

need a lot more?

Like more big names or more different

stories?

More momentum.

I just don't know why the process of

the pro card took so long to release

all the names.

There was no consistency in the posts.

The order didn't make sense.

It just felt weird and to me almost

disorganized.

Yeah.

Yeah.

mean i i'm glad to see them both

there and i mean i like to see

competitions with more good athletes it's

an opera another opportunity to watch you

know the best or compete with them yeah

i don't even know they've i don't even

know what they could do to get gain

momentum on their

tours like caroline we're talking about

tour stop one it's just not a great

time for people like i don't know i

don't know who you're bringing in that is

going to be like gunning for this it's

just it's it's a weird time if you're

in around any of those semis oh

Yeah,

like I wish the tour one was early

April.

Basically, the open's done,

the quarters are done right before the

semifinals.

I mean, I think most of them,

like I think Mayhem's in April,

but like other than that one,

normally it's like May,

June would be semifinal.

So had they made one in April,

I think that is in a better time

than middle of the semifinals.

The August one is fine.

Even the December one is, is okay.

Now in terms of like,

in comparison to where the other comps

are, just this first one is,

and their qualifier is just,

they're not placed.

Well, correct.

Phil B says the qualifiers also started.

Is it getting lost in the open hype?

A little bit.

I mean, it's, it's this week, right?

Like from whatever came out Wednesday and

it's, they're due on Tuesday or Wednesday.

So you get a week.

right up, right up into the open.

I mean, my,

I would think most people would get them

done probably before Wednesday.

It's only three workouts.

It's not like it's going to like mess

anyone up.

Um, but yeah, it's, it's weird.

It's weird timing.

Yeah.

I mean, I looked at the roster.

The roster is actually pretty decent.

Um,

they only lost four or five people in

each on each side, um,

from their top twenty.

And we,

at one point we thought so many women

were gone and it turns out that,

I mean, they got Ariel, they got, uh,

Amy Kringle, they got Laura Horvath.

So they've got some people in that upper

echelon.

I think it's,

it's a competitive league and, um,

But I think where they're at right now

is it's a money grab for athletes to

help support their season,

and you don't see them hyping it up

as their favorite competition.

You see much more coming from the games

and what they're putting out with the

athletes than what WFP is doing right now.

Yeah.

And I mean...

I worry about the challenger division

getting enough.

There are some decent women signed up for

the challenger division,

but I don't know how much turnover we'll

have now that we've kind of got these

twenty locked in who decided they want to

go for it.

I mean,

I can see a few in both sides,

but it's not going to be like last

year because that was a completely

different situation.

Carolyn, correct me if I'm wrong,

but I think I saw in an interview

that

somewhere that like liz wishart her first

priority is to get into the wfp to

support herself for a season then it's to

make the games no okay she wants to

do the indiana one for sure because it's

close to where she lives i'm not sure

about this first tour stop

I think if you were to ask her,

I think she would want to do the

game season probably first or try to

qualify for the games.

But seeing as one of the tour stops

is in Indiana,

I just think it makes sense for her

to for sure do that one and then

possibly see what she can do in the

first one to maybe build up some points

if she wants to, you know,

if she's already going to do the second

one.

then maybe do that.

But yeah, I,

I thought I heard it on Hiller.

Yeah.

I thought I heard that on her Hiller

saying that they were going to,

I don't know.

It could be wrong,

but he said something about her having a

goal of getting,

making a pro card to support herself.

And then that way she'll be able to

focus more on the games.

Yeah.

I mean, I,

I understand the Indiana one makes

complete sense.

The problem is she,

If you don't prioritize tour stop one,

it makes kind of no sense.

So you either have to decide you're doing

them or you're not.

Doing the one isn't going to cut it.

yeah yeah i don't know i think whoever

it was that said it whoever it was

that meant it i do think it's a

legit i do think it's a legit strategy

to to go for the pro card to

support yourself through a season then

really focus on the games and just trying

to maintain the pro card

right well once you have it that's i

mean it helps if you go to all

three if you go to all three tour

stops already you have a sick like a

really good shot of keeping it you don't

have to do any qualifiers you don't have

to do like like you're in and you

just show up and you're paid for yeah

that's huge so

Okay, well, that happened this week.

The other news from the WFP was that

Fee got a backfill pro card after she

announced that due to a shoulder injury,

she would have to take a step back

this season.

Right.

And this is what I want to post

to you guys is this is what happened

with tennis back in the eighties.

People were guaranteed money to show would

lose in the first round,

collect the money and go home.

Now we have Fi,

who at Copenhagen last year,

and I love Fi,

and I think she's a great athlete,

but she's hurt.

Watching her wave and go to the end

of the lane and not do an event

is a really bad look for the sport

as a whole.

Agree.

And I'm hoping,

I'm hoping that this is not what this

case is.

Show up, collect the money,

and do the events you can do,

and just wave on the ones you can't.

Yeah, I mean,

I think the August one should be able

to do the December one.

And then the May one,

if you're doing May,

then you probably I mean,

she probably would have already had

invites.

She said on coffee pods and wads that.

know some of the semifinals she turned

down i think were legends maybe and mayhem

um those ones are you know all around

may area anyways so i i doubt that

she would do may but then she also

said that like if she felt good like

she would do the online semifinal in june

right like um

So she has said that she may try

for the CrossFit Games.

I thought she said she's sitting this year

out.

She'd have to qualify.

She said that, but then in her interview,

she said that she's still doing the Open,

like whatever that'll look like.

Okay.

Just to do the Open and be with

her affiliate.

Okay.

Now her doing the Open,

she's so fit that depending on, you know,

you might make it through.

Then she would do the quarterfinals.

Again,

depending on she's an athlete that would

probably get an invite to a semifinal

without even needing to place.

Ridiculously high, and even then,

like at that point where she health wise,

like, I don't know,

but if if by June she has enough

that she could do the online semifinals,

she wouldn't not do it if she feel

like she could.

so she's out for the season but there's

an asterisk that like it's not like if

she can she will like she's not gonna

be like oh i said no so i

won't do it like it just depends on

how she feels you know it's like the

retired athletes that aren't retired so

i'm not i'm not really concerned whether

she does the crossfit season i think

she'll try if she can

What I'm concerned with is the thought of

going to the WFP events,

collecting the money and only doing four

of the six events because your shoulders

hurt and still collecting enough points to

move on and enough to get your money

and your salary.

I think she's fit enough that she could

get enough points with August and

December.

Are the points doubled again in December?

Not doubled.

It's like I said.

If there's the six events, six events,

and ten events, you could get six hundred,

six hundred, a thousand.

That's why it's four.

Depending on who's able to do all three,

she still stands a chance to possibly keep

that pro card.

Or at least she would be making some

money by doing the two at the end

of the season,

the August and the December.

It gives her late in the year options

to compete and still make money.

I'm not surprised that she took it.

If you feel you'll be good for August

and December, why would you turn it down?

This is not about her taking it or

not.

This is about the image that will show

because they offer her a pro card when

she's hurt.

And last year,

they allowed her to go out on the

floor and compete in only the event she

could and just sit on the lane bumper

for the others.

I don't like that as a look going

into a competition.

I'm not blaming her for taking the pro

card.

If it's offered to you, it's good money.

Take it, enjoy it, do whatever you want.

But the fact that then you're allowed to

go like it,

there's minimum work requirements at

things like Alex Caron doesn't even get

through semifinals because he can't do a

muscle up.

Like, and so we're used to that.

Now the WFP is like, okay,

as long as you can come back for

the next event, you're fine.

It just has a bad look to it.

But again,

it's this switch to a season total and

trying to get the season points you can

get.

And now that they're going with real

points and not finishing points,

those event point finishes you keep for

the rest of the season.

But I think that's the point of the

WFP is that like CrossFit puts all the

eggs in one basket.

You have one semifinal.

If you make it through,

you go to the games.

If you don't, your season's done there.

The WFP in their season or if they're

in their league is,

you can skip one and then go to

other ones and accumulate points.

And let's say you were sick in one

weekend and you can't do it,

or you were injured.

Your season's not over because of that.

And I think that's what differentiates the

WFP in the sense that if you do

have a pro card,

you do have a little bit, um,

I'm okay.

They are allowed to do whatever they want.

It's their league.

But this is where I CrossFit fat says

if WPFP becomes the free appearance money,

it doesn't elevate the product.

And then the original C Miller protect the

shield.

I think that's the part that,

that has me wondering about this decision.

That's where, when I said originally,

even this whole concept,

I totally understand the travel

accommodations and like covering for them

to get there.

But I don't, I don't like love this.

Here's money for a season.

Like for me,

every event should be merit-based and

purely point like,

If you want to ultimately pay out a

hundred thousand, it should be.

Twenty five, twenty five,

fifty or whatever, thirty, thirty, forty,

and that should be the places and people

are showing up trying to get first place

to get that thirty grand period.

Like it's not like a like you need

to you need to give them a reason

to compete at that event each and every

event.

Here's the problem with that.

is that just like the nfl when there's

a free agent in order to get that

free agent on your team you have to

give them money and part of that contract

is guaranteed money right but i feel like

the getting to the regardless is the is

the free money no it's not free money

until you place no but that's what i'm

saying the whole thing should be you pay

people's way there to get there

then they're there.

They need to,

they need to do something to earn more

money.

Like get them there.

Perfect.

I'm cool with giving them money.

Get people there without giving them

money.

I, I disagree with that.

Look how many people dropped out already.

It's the people who have hundreds of

thousands of dollars of sponsorship money.

They don't need it.

But you take away the pro card and

you have of these top twenty pro cards

they have right now.

You take away that guaranteed money in the

pro card aspect of it.

Only half of them will sign up for

a qualifier.

All the money is still there.

What do you mean?

No, it's not guaranteed.

And you probably have to do a qualifier

now.

It would be guaranteed all the way from

first place to thirtieth place,

the way they have it.

If they are giving out a hundred thousand

and thirty thousand at the bottom,

the person in thirtieth has a chance of

making more.

And yes,

the person in first probably has a chance

of making less,

but the person in thirtieth has a shot

of making more.

Isn't that already how it is?

That every tour stop,

there's a certain amount of money.

And if you make your money cool,

if you make more than what you were

signed, then you get paid extra.

I thought that's how it was.

That is how it is.

But the tour stops don't pay much money.

It's really the finals.

More than most semifinals.

Yeah.

right but in the season it winning the

season means more than winning a tour stop

well yeah and they're in their pay

structure we're gonna have to agree to

disagree because i don't think they'd get

many people if they took away the money

the way it's structured today

And that means,

that means that the intensity has to be

there for those stops and every other spot

during the CrossFit season.

which means more wear and tear on the

body.

Right now, if I'm Ariel Loewen,

I can go win a couple events,

coast on a couple events,

and still get my money and go home.

And that's not good for the fans.

That's not what people want to see.

The fans have made it clear they don't

want to see people just skate through

workouts.

They want to see people fight for all

fans.

They have good fans at the...

At Copenhagen?

Yeah.

Even the first stops.

We wanted to see people.

I mean, I personally think those people,

all these athletes, for the most part,

want to take first.

They aren't going out there not trying to

get first.

So it shouldn't matter.

For the WFP to succeed,

they need to get the best athletes they

can get there.

And the only way they're going to get

the best athletes they can get there is

to give money, guaranteed money.

It is guaranteed money.

We agree to disagree.

Okay.

Yours is merit-based.

Mine is here.

You're,

you're going to make at least a hundred

grand this year.

James Sprague,

you're making a hundred grand this year.

So if you're true, so James,

but James should know he's going to make

a hundred grand in my, in my,

it doesn't matter, right?

Like James knows he's going to make a

hundred grand your way or my way.

I mean,

it's the same thing for every sports team,

basically.

You pay a contract based on what you

did the year before.

Sometimes the athlete does very well and

scores a bunch of goals,

and then other years you pay an athlete

and they underperform,

and then maybe you renegotiate the

contract.

Or the athlete gets hurt and doesn't even

compete.

And then they're still there at the

moment.

And that doesn't work in this sport.

Yeah, I know, Steve.

Jamie is not agreeing to disagree yet.

I know I'm trying to move on.

She keeps fighting, but anyway,

there it is.

I have my own show on Tuesday.

We'll talk about it then.

We're not, she can't rebut me.

Um, correct.

Indie sports don't work that way.

That's exactly the issue.

All right.

What's the next thing?

Open lineups,

open announcement lineups have been

announced.

So we have twenty six point one,

which is down pepper.

Jason Hopper, Colton Mertens,

Austin Hatfield.

Twenty six point two is the Europeans,

which is Amy Kringle,

Maren Von Rohr and Lucy Campbell.

And twenty six point three is Daniel

Brandon,

Olivia Kerstetter and Ariel Lowen.

That is a damn good lineup of open

announcements.

It's a good lineup.

Every week is great.

Every single week.

Yeah, they really did a good job.

So I ask you,

is this the best lineup of athletes we

have seen?

And the reason I'm saying that is because

every year I remembered one clunker week.

Yeah.

This one does not have a clunker week.

I mean, when there was five weeks,

there'd be one bad one.

If you looked at the best three...

Of the years where we had five weeks?

Like the best three open announcements of

the five that they had?

I don't know.

I'd have to go.

I mean, it's great.

But even those five weeks,

it was always one versus one.

This week,

we have four in the first week.

We have three in the second and three

in the third.

I like the mobile because it just,

it keeps the race going.

And even let's say,

even if you're a third,

you're still racing to stay in it.

You know, when it's one versus one,

it can.

Yeah.

You kind of check out.

Yeah.

You can kind of check it out a

little bit.

We can watch them.

Correct.

Yes.

Open announcements are always on YouTube

for sure.

There was always a Matt announcement.

I mean, like Sydney versus Rolf.

I love Emily Rolf.

And Sydney Wells is a great person,

but she is not a top-ten athlete.

Like,

everything this year is top-ten athletes.

Yeah.

It's awesome.

I mean, I don't mind.

I like, I like watching the,

when they do it at gyms and they

bring out the average shows out before I

love those.

So I don't,

I don't even necessarily need it to be

the best athletes.

I think there's something to be learned

from all of them.

I mean, that goes back to your,

is it good for the sport or bad

for the sport?

If we're only watching the very best do

them each week.

Like I like to see more than one

variation.

Yeah, it will be.

Yeah.

It'll be very compelling.

scores,

like the people are going to be of,

so the top,

so other athletes are going to be more

tuned into these.

I don't know general public wise,

but other athletes are going to be very

tuned into these.

That's the difference.

Yeah.

Uh,

contrarian Jamie shows up strong today.

She showed up last week and I don't

know what she's been putting in her diet,

but man,

I just don't get to work out.

So I'm just

mad all the time we had a text

today where i thought she was going to

go off on me and then she stopped

and i was like okay well you just

like miss you just misinterpreted the

first line of what i wrote yeah it

was my fault for misinterpretation yeah a

hundred percent yeah but i think it's good

when we have disagreements because it's it

makes it better why do we want to

go do a show and everyone agree with

everything

No, I like it.

I just hope that the fans like it.

Vicky says hormone shift.

I know it's me.

My hormones are all out of whack.

Okay.

The next thing I wanted to show you

is one of the people announced for twenty

six point three was Ariel Owen.

And I saw a video today that I

just could not get enough of.

Is it her bringing on one?

It is.

I love it.

So.

She's so good.

This chick is awesome.

Mercury is in Gatorade today.

Is that supposed to be retrograde?

Back handspring, step out, round off,

back handspring, full twisting, lay out.

Front handspring, step out, round off,

back handspring, step out, round off,

back handspring, full twisting, lay out.

How cool is that?

so cool and she said what did she

say on there like some people it's not

even cool anymore we all think it's cool

Ariel it's very cool with trick inflation

this isn't even cool anymore she was just

mad that her hair clipped and stay in

for all the flips Mark Phillips had to

watch it a few times to make sure

it was real I hope Dylan thanks God

every day

Well,

Dylan actually tries a backflip on the

floor, and he hit it.

Oh, man.

He's crazy.

Yeah.

I love when they just do, like,

challenges against each other and do,

I don't know.

It's good.

They're entertaining.

They are entertaining.

Yes, Carolyn, we're here for it,

the disagreements.

It's my fault.

Jamie's clearly still upset about the hair

comment.

Ariel's new t-shirt is fire.

I ordered one and hope it does not

come in women's Excel.

Yeah.

I just had to share that.

What's her new shirt.

I don't know.

I haven't seen it.

And I watch a lot of her stuff.

I don't,

I saw she was like different font of

her strong as a mom or whatever.

I can't imagine Fergie getting a strong as

a mom shirt.

Yeah, so what's the new shirt?

Is it just the lion?

But that's not new.

One other thing I found on Instagram today

that I have to share is Did you

see this, Carolyn?

Colleges that sent the most Olympians to

Italy in twenty twenty six.

Yeah,

I did know this because I know the

men's hockey team has my my friend wrote.

I don't know Ohio State, but on Wisconsin,

Minnesota was second.

But then tied.

I mean, it's basically all hockey.

I think there's got to be at least

nine or ten.

Only one behind Ohio State.

It's the Hughes brothers.

For us, it's all like women's hockey,

like almost twelve.

I think twelve of those are women's

hockey.

Is it just those top three that they

list?

If I'm a Wisconsin grad,

I'm pretty pumped.

Second most Olympians this year.

That's pretty awesome.

Probably first in hockey, though,

for sure.

I'm just saying he's looking for a hockey

win anyway.

She can get it every.

Yeah.

That's the best school for hockey.

But as cross CrossFit says, Hey Siri,

play free bird.

I can't hear you.

My audio is coming out.

I don't know.

Michigan state might have something to say

about that.

Carolyn.

Well,

there's no woman's hockey in Michigan

because they are, um, against it.

Apparently.

Wow.

That's been an issue for a while, though,

actually, that they won't put a woman.

They had a women's team.

No,

there was like this rule against like D

one women's hockey in Michigan.

What's up next?

Open numbers.

Open numbers.

This was as of this afternoon.

I lost it.

Shoot.

Where did you find it?

Because I went to help and I didn't

see any numbers.

It's there.

We were leveling off a bit, eh?

Yeah.

I think over the last week we've leveled,

like started to.

What was it on?

It's in the story.

I went to his stories.

There was nothing there.

one forty seven six seven four okay still

twenty three point nine percent better

than last year okay so that seems to

still be holding level it's not doesn't

seem to be dropping up chat gbt projected

it at like two forty five to two

sixty okay

So the yellow is us this year.

Right here.

I don't know if you can see my

cursor.

Yeah.

Right there.

And so we're above last year,

which is the blue.

But we're still under all the other years.

I mean, that's good.

And it's not spiking up like the other

years.

Right.

So that's what's kind of weird.

But we're a week out.

Hopefully that takes off.

Man,

it's got to be a good first workout.

Yeah.

Is it ten minutes like the leak,

you think?

You think it's ten minute AMRAP or a

ten minute cap?

That's a good question.

If it is ten minutes.

But I do like that time domain for

a first workout.

I do too.

Sometimes I think the like fifteen to

twenty is a little long for some people

to want to do.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I don't know.

I think it might be,

I think it might be a ten-minute AMRAP.

What movements?

I don't know why.

I just feel like wall balls are going

to be in it.

So that week,

there's no wall balls in CAP.

The day before, they have clean and jerks.

And the day after,

I think they have running and legless rope

climbs, so a pulling movement.

Yeah,

like on the – because they have it

on the Friday, yeah.

So two days before the Open on CAP,

they have three rounds of a hundred

double-unders,

twenty-five burpees to a target,

and fifteen knees to elbow.

Okay, so no burpees week one.

I mean, you would think two days before,

right?

Right.

Three days before they have Cal Rowan,

a back squat combo,

but sometimes you could like sprinkle in

things a couple of days in advance and

maybe get the body ready for later on.

But yeah, there's no, there's,

and two days after the open,

they have like a chipper Diane,

which I don't mean,

I don't think I will see hands and

pushups anyways on week one, but.

We just did nineteen point one.

Yes.

Yesterday.

Fergie show says, well,

balls and rowing would be a tall man's

dream.

I'm six three.

Yeah.

That says make the first workout fun.

Get the man out.

Get the man.

I'm not sure in West.

Get the people that are met.

I'm not sure to come in to like

make the first workout fun.

Like get the on the edge people to

join.

Totally agree.

I gotcha.

Yeah.

I'd like to see at least three movements

for sure.

I agree with that.

The thing is, I don't know that.

I mean, people don't love wall balls,

but they technically they are accessible.

Might not be fast.

Like you might have to do small sets.

So Vicky says,

someone brought this up last week.

If twenty six point three is at Waza

and it's open to the community,

do we think that it will be the

Uber accessible workout?

I do not.

I do not either.

If you're at Wadapalooza watching

CrossFit,

you are not some average Joe just walking

into the gym.

Yeah.

I mean,

that can easily be your normal workout.

barbell whether it be thrusters or

whatever with box jump overs and a rig

movement like that can easily be set up

at wadapalooza yeah do those athletes have

to do it the announcement people on

thursday wait is it is it thursday friday

for the individuals yep okay so i okay

then i don't think that they would make

them do it twice like they'll do that

and then the rest of the field would

do it maybe right after

Yeah, so apparently on Be Friendly,

I did not watch this interview,

but apparently Danielle does say they know

what the process is for doing it and

how it will affect their competition

already.

They're just not allowed to say.

Okay.

So they've been told how it's going to

work for them.

Fergie says,

anything but burpees and dumbbell ground

to overhead.

Yes.

Yes.

It's been that for two years.

I know.

It's got to be something different.

I mean, I don't mind that.

I like them too,

but I do agree it should probably change

up.

It can't be the first one.

It needs to change up.

Yeah.

I mean,

do snatches or deadlifts and burpees over

the bar or something different than

dumbbells, right?

Yeah.

Yeah.

There's no double-unders in this week of

cap.

Could be double-unders in there.

Could be.

What was the ranch announcement?

The happy star-ish burpees.

That one?

It's when Rich and Matt went head-to-head,

right?

Oh.

And Ben, like Ben, Matt, Rich, maybe.

Like the ranch announcement.

They did an announcement like.

Sixteen, seventeen.

And it was burpees and thrusters.

It's I think it was.

Sixteen, five.

Which was fourteen,

which was fourteen point five as well.

The twenty one to three burpees and

thrusters.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Rich, Matt, Ben, and Rory.

Fun.

I like that one.

Yeah, it was Ben, Matt, Rich, then Ro,

Boz, Dave.

I think we'll see rings this year in

the open.

I'd like to see a gated workout.

Like,

you've got to get to this to be

able to,

and maybe some muscle-ups right off the

get.

Yeah.

And I'm okay with that as long as

there's enough play time in the,

in before it.

I really liked the workouts that are like

the total bar, double under squat, clean.

I think those are some of the best

workouts,

the one that Austin and Justin did,

and they put it with Rich's video.

Those are,

those are some of the best workouts.

God, I have the fitness.

Scott should,

plus program true RX movements that are

safe.

Yes.

I will say last year as a plus,

I thought it was scaled back way too

much.

And if I'm saying that,

if I'm saying it had to be bad.

Yeah.

I mean, you just go faster, but yeah,

it even like watching Jim, I was like,

man, this is like, I mean,

they took away their wall walk.

They don't necessarily need to be doing

scaled wall walks.

I mean,

the wall walk was over the line,

behind the line, over the line,

behind the line.

Exactly.

You didn't even have to move.

That's the scaled wall walk.

I know.

I'm saying it was really, really easy.

I agree.

All right, next thing up is this week,

for some unknown reason,

John Young and Brian Friend counted down

the hundred best women in the sport.

And I got to star in the promo

for that.

I know.

Because I think it's silly.

I think it's silly, and of course,

Jamie had to tell me I was wrong

in a text.

That's not how I said it.

I said you care about those athletes

probably more than most.

Probably more like Brian.

Way more than John.

Way more than John.

I do care about those athletes.

That's all I said.

My point is, ranking them is silly.

I do agree with you on that.

The difference between those athletes...

is so minute yeah and it's all program

dependent yep now the top athletes yeah

there are stronger ones and not as strong

ones and it makes sense but man down

to a hundred is just you can put

those names in a hat and draw them

out and be as close as if you're

picking them yeah

So a couple of key things that I

saw that I wanted to bring up is

on this list.

John Young had Carolyn Prevost at thirty

seven.

Brian Friend, who I thought loved Carolyn,

had her at forty four.

but apparently he hates her.

No, just kidding.

The comments made about her in the show

were that she is so consistent and it

is relevant for a master's athlete in the

elite division.

And John then said,

she is the modern day Becca Voigt,

which I thought was a huge compliment.

For sure.

I'll take that as a compliment any day.

She's a legend.

So I thought that was really cool to

hear that and their respect for you.

And to be seriously in the top forty

as a Masters athlete is pretty damn cool.

Agree.

So they went all the way to a

hundred.

There were disagreements everywhere.

I think it became clear that they both

had different criteria.

I think it became clear that they both

had different biases.

And that's an argument I made in that

initial thing that was clipped by Hiller

is we all have biases.

If you work in the media in CrossFit,

it's such a small community that we all

know athletes.

And that gives us all a bias.

And the example that got shown in the

Hiller clip was that every time I've asked

Brooke Wells for an interview,

she has turned me down.

Therefore I don't root for Brooke Wells.

Yeah.

Cause I don't want her to do well.

Cause I don't want to be told no

again.

Yeah.

Fair.

And then there are,

there are people that give me an interview

without me even asking like,

and so that that's a different thing for

me.

Right.

That's a bias in the other direction.

So it was a fun thing.

It was a topic to discuss and they

got to have a full show on it

and got to argue some things out.

But I think the criteria need to be

better because John had Tia Claire Toomey.

Brian didn't even have her on the list

because his criteria was if they're not

competing in the next season,

they don't go on the list.

John's criteria was she's on the list

until she doesn't show up for the Open.

Yeah, that's fair,

but they made a bet off of where

their list ends up and

John automatically messes himself up by

putting seven people on this list who

aren't competing this year.

Okay.

But I do love what, um,

Hiller's doing with this channel and these

like longer podcasts that he's been doing

lately with coaches, with athletes, um,

bringing in both John and Brian together.

Um,

Yeah,

I think he's doing a really good job

with that.

I agree.

Yeah, I like watching his interview.

I didn't think I would see Brian and

John in the same room talking like this

for this long.

No.

In fact, it was just two weeks prior,

I think John said he would never work

with Brian again.

Yeah.

Kudos to Hillard for getting him to come

out there.

There it is two weeks later.

There they are in the same room working

together.

It's crazy.

I love the set that Hiller has designed

and the sit-down interview.

That is what I want someday.

I want to be able to sit down

at a table with people and interview them.

Yeah.

And that's what I'm going to attempt to

do this season and record them and bring

them back as opposed to worrying about

getting stuff out super fast at an event.

Yeah.

I don't even know what that means,

CrossFat.

Your grammar is way higher than mine.

What, the kayfabe?

Or what are you?

The kayfabe.

I don't know what that means.

I don't know what that is either.

Okay.

So there's that.

That was a fun watch.

yeah he did one today talking about the

kill taylor uh show and how the views

are going down and talking about how

there's too much swearing how um the

format changed of how he does it i

think um yeah and was bringing just points

on on that which was interesting

I don't really know why they wanted to

switch to this Taylor going second deal.

Which, whatever.

I mean,

if you want to have the other people

go first, that's one thing.

But I totally agree that he needs to

do it at the end of the show.

I mean, people don't want to wait.

You get the advantage of seeing the score.

And if you want to try to keep

the money, it is easier to go second.

So I understand that.

Yeah.

But he's waiting, like,

until the next week now?

Yeah.

That's what it is?

Instead of doing it that day?

And then it's not even guaranteed because

there's been, like, too many – I mean,

it hasn't been on Saturday every week.

It hasn't been – hasn't even been every

week that Taylor's been able to go.

I think that's a bigger part of the

problem.

If he's not able to go that day,

then it shouldn't happen that day.

Whether he –

let's so there's a big like wrinkle in

this thing that isn't being talked about

and that is that taylor suffered a major

loss in the last few weeks right and

with that that has put everything out of

whack on that show and because of that

i don't think you can truly judge

everything now i've not seen hillary's

video so i don't know what was said

we don't i try not to swear on

this channel i know right i i want

to be more family friendly i want

everybody welcome to come in um it doesn't

mean i'm not i won't talk about the

controversial topics or whatever i'm

willing to do all of that it's just

a decision i made a long time ago

My mom does not like bad language.

I respect my mother.

She watches this show.

I'm not going to swear because I'm going

to respect her wishes.

And I know there are a ton of

people like her.

And so that's my decision.

They decide they can swear.

I've watched their show.

I can't sit here and criticize it because

I watch it.

But

It's a choice you make when you make

these shows, which route you want to go.

I'm anxious now to see the Hiller video

and what he said, because I don't know.

I'm flying blind on this one.

he just went over his views.

Like he pulled up the analytics and just

showed, you know, the numbers of watching.

And if you get on and watch, sure.

Could the language be a part of people

not watching?

I guess that's maybe an argument,

but like people watch the entire season

last year, pretty heavily.

Yeah.

with the same language.

I don't know that I would agree,

like say,

and I don't even know that Hiller was

trying to say that that was the,

I mean,

I think it's just the new format that

it's not necessarily consistent,

which sure there's some background to

that.

But I think the bigger thing is that

people don't,

they have to wait a week to see

the results.

And that's that like you lose,

you just lose people to that.

Like people get on and they want to

see it happen.

So sure, let them call in first.

I'm cool with that.

You going second.

I just I think I hope they look

at that as an option.

But you also, in this world of creating,

you have to not be stagnant too, right?

You have to try new things.

And I think they were, he was,

the pot was never growing very big last

season.

Because the Coltons and the Yellows and

the Victor Hoffers were calling in and

taking the money.

This way,

it gives Taylor a better shot to defend

the money.

And the pots, frankly,

are growing higher this year than last

year.

And it's data for them to look at

and maybe redesign next year.

Yeah.

So...

I'm not going to be critical of anybody

trying something new in this space because

it's hard.

It's hard every day to create and come

up with new ways of doing things and

not being stagnant.

But I am really excited to see Hiller's

video because when he does these things,

it's always a teaching moment for me as

well.

It's a good video.

You'll like it.

So I'm anxious to see that.

So, okay.

What else do we have?

News.

I didn't,

but we've already kind of talked about it.

So Fittest on Earth is twenty twenty five

to be released March third.

Have you guys seen the trailer?

No.

It's awesome.

It's really good.

I'll.

I'll pull it up while you guys talk.

Carolyn, what'd you think of it?

I mean, I'm excited to see,

it looks like a different type of format

than what we've seen in the past.

Like there's just the way that it's being

presented feels different than the other

like fittest on earth documentaries.

Is it a different production company?

It has to be because there's a different

feel to it.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I think it's a different company.

I think it's internal,

but it's a different group doing it.

Okay.

All right.

Here is the trailer.

So Jamie can see it.

Being in the tunnel.

Scared.

Just reminding myself that if I don't win

the CrossFit Games.

I'm sorry.

It's choppy.

i think i did see these first never

gonna be able to get over this well

i guess you're not gonna see it i

i saw this part of hopper is it

just hopper no no no no it's it's

longer then i just saw the hopper this

is the tightest race we have ever had

in the history of the crossfit game

The CrossFit Games are the ultimate test

to find the fittest on Earth.

It's being Superman,

and the CrossFit Games find Superman the

Superwoman.

The Games is not just ten workouts that

we're doing for fun.

The Games is a grueling test.

This could be a make-or-break event for

everyone's podium hopes.

That was the point where I was like,

people are gonna be loving this.

I even said it on the radio to

my head judges.

I was like, hey,

I think we're in the CrossFit Games now.

Like, this is it.

I feel like if I'm not competing,

I have to say goodbye.

Tia's trying to balance,

am I still the competitor that I used

to be?

Disaster!

Unbelievable!

This workout is my crossfit news.

Online.

Who will be crowned the fittest on earth?

When did you say it comes out?

March third.

See,

I wish they would time it to release

it before the open,

get people fired up about the documentary.

And then it's like,

this season like the season starts yeah

right now sign up yep anyone can do

it if you want to go here this

is where it starts like that's why

streaming company what's that i think

they're at the mercy of apple because

that's where it's being released they

probably didn't get it too bad it's too

bad yeah um it's so close from being

the right timing

So here are my thoughts.

One, first and foremost,

when the first trailer came out,

I was really geeked.

The second trailer came out,

I thought it was really good,

and I'm always going to purchase these.

But I'm with CrossFat.

It feels very similar to the old ones

to me, like the voiceover, the announcers,

then voiceover, then slow-mo.

But all we're getting is a clip.

Yeah.

Yeah.

To me, it's going to be,

is it more than five athletes for this

hour and a half?

That's what I want to see.

And I've heard that it is.

I just haven't seen anything to prove that

to me yet.

See, I think it's going to be different.

I think it feels different.

I feel like it's going to be different.

Okay.

My other thing is,

why do we keep releasing on Apple?

why can't we fight to get like a

Netflix or now I know like on Netflix,

you can't purchase it,

but they always do well on Netflix.

So I would think Netflix would want to

pay for that and update it more,

get to a wider audience.

I buy it on iTunes.

And then like, I,

I usually store all my bought stuff on

Amazon and,

Now I got to go to iTunes to

watch this.

All my fittest on earth are on iTunes.

I never go to iTunes.

Like it just is, it's cumbersome.

And Netflix doesn't give you your metrics.

Do we need metrics if people are watching

it though?

Like what is the goal with the video?

Is the goal of the video to make

money?

Or is the goal of the video to

grow the methodology and the sport?

Yeah.

Yeah.

And get people in the affiliates.

Right.

And I think the Netflix is where like

the net,

like putting it on Netflix would do that.

It did it before for us.

Wonder if going to Apple makes it easier

to go to Amazon prime video.

I think we got to get out of

the way of selling the video.

Why does it need to be sold?

It's, is it a moneymaker?

Is it that big of a moneymaker?

Yeah.

Or do we want like a bigger audience?

And Sousa proves he's the smartest in the

room again.

It's a media rights issue.

Netflix would need to own it and strike

a deal with CrossFit.

Yeah,

that would suck if they owned it then.

That would.

um so yeah we got nothing for you

there i think the priority if they owned

it what like what would that entail us

losing i mean it still would get viewed

yeah i i still think the priority what's

the like negative part with that besides i

guess us not owning it but

I can see your guys' point with that.

Is that truly a bad thing if it

reaches a bigger audience?

People don't want to pay for things.

They already paid for X, Y,

and Z subscription.

If it's there,

they'll watch it and then they'll talk

about it and then it just gets a

bunch of views.

He agrees with our point.

And that is it.

I just don't understand.

It can't be that big of a moneymaker

that you would have to sell it.

And with you guys,

we pay for the Open.

We pay for quarterfinals.

We pay to go to these events.

The semifinals are so expensive now.

Why do you need to pay for that?

Yeah.

Y'all and I have two,

I've bought every single one of them,

but they've,

they've got CrossFitters buying.

It's not like you're not getting as many

outside people buying it.

And then there's just people.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Okay.

Other news of the week.

Debbie O'Connell could see jail time for

lying about her disability.

Crazy.

One point I want to make about this.

She won the twenty twenty five adaptive

CrossFit Games for one point upper.

She came in second in twenty twenty four.

I thought Kevin Ogar was great on the

CrossFit Network's CrossFit show talking

about they need to see more concrete

evidence before they make a decision.

They have a very small community.

They go through some due diligence.

And just because people are accusing her

of this doesn't mean that that's exactly

what's happened.

And they want to see concrete evidence.

He said,

we hear rumors about athletes all the

time.

And if we acted on every single rumor,

we would have no athletes left.

So I thought he was great with that.

CrossFat says, Kevin,

definitely talk to a lawyer first.

He'd be the first to crack a joke

otherwise.

Hey, in this case,

I think talking to a lawyer is probably

a smart move.

The next thing is Oslo Krieger are back.

The descending champs are back with a new

member who is so famous,

he just goes by his initials.

And that's BKG.

Were the other three on the team last

year that won?

Because I know Kristen, Tola, was it Ota?

It was Ota, yeah.

Okay, so it's just the one replacement.

Which Kristen was the backfill.

I mean, Kristen's never a backfill.

I know.

She was retired and stepped in.

Right.

Kristen could compete anytime and probably

make the individual games.

Yeah, this is exciting.

If she wanted to.

That's a good team.

I mean, I like that Mayhem team,

but man, that's going to be a fight.

Which is a repeat of last year.

Who was second last year?

The girls from the Mayhem team were third.

Who was second?

Why am I blanking?

It wasn't Invictus, was it?

I don't know.

that's gonna bother me um but anyway the

one thing i did notice is kristen holt

is on the team but carolyn was ranked

higher than her in the top one hundred

women athletes so she's got to feel pretty

pretty proud about that depends on the

workouts was it jamie green's team uh team

who cross up mayhem was second so it

was angelo's team was second

And then camel city was third camel city.

So yeah, it'd be a repeat.

Cause it's just moving the girls up.

Yeah.

Yeah.

The girls are now mayhem instead of the

camel city.

So, yep.

Um,

and then the last piece of news I

had, uh, yeah, uh,

cj that is uh carolyn clutz team camel

city was carolyn clutch team yeah and now

she's on mayhem with jack rosema and i

can't remember the other guy all of a

sudden it's someone good mayhem so yeah

and stevie stevie and carolyn both moving

up to that team yep

And then the last bit of news I

have is Dallin Pepper and Jack Farlow go

under an hour in Vegas.

I know on duels that doesn't mean a

whole lot,

but Dallin is known as not being a

runner.

So I thought it was cool that he

embraced the run and we get a high

rocks.

So that's cool.

and uh was doing a singles like a

individual this weekend but i can't see

her like it has four of her stations

and then nothing after but i saw that

britney weiss did pretty well as well what

she hit uh weiss was an hour five

minutes okay and i think second in her

age group okay

I must have gotten kicked out of the

High Rocks algorithm because I barely saw

anything from the High Rocks.

I just saw Hunter and his teammate.

That's like the only thing I've been

seeing.

And then I saw Dalen's stuff on his

own page.

CrossFed says,

what about the guy leaving TTT?

That would be Kyle Ruth.

He announced on his Instagram story today.

I don't know any more about that.

So...

I am shocked by this.

I mean,

I was shocked when Brandon left those

both.

Both those are huge.

Who was Kyle coaching right now?

Alexis.

So Alexis wants from Adam Rogers.

Um, yeah.

Yup.

Like six months ago,

which was already weird.

If she's going with him or staying with

TTT.

That's the question.

Uh,

CrossFit Kyle Habdo is the PT over there.

Kyle Ruth's not a PT.

He's just a coach.

And he's been a coach there for a

long time.

I mean, unless,

unless you're saying personal trainer,

but I'm guessing you're saying physical

therapist and the physical therapist is

Kyle Habdo.

We're talking about Kyle Ruth.

Where is he going?

It said independent.

He's just going on.

Yeah.

And his wording was,

I am no longer affiliated with TTT.

Right.

As of February.

Yeah.

So it does not seem amicable,

but no details.

Yeah.

I know CJ, but I'm, I don't know.

Like, I don't know.

I have to be clear.

Words matter.

You mean Brandon?

Yeah.

And now Kyle profit.

No, I think she,

he means with Alexis that Tanner was

working out with her,

but she still had Kyle as a coach,

even during the Tanner days.

Yes.

Yeah.

Tanner was not her coach.

He was a workout partner.

Correct.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Adam is coaching Gabby.

And I kind of wonder how long that's

been happening.

Like did Alexis leave and then he picked

up Gabby or was Gabby coming around?

And I don't know.

Lydia is still there with training think

tank, right?

Monica.

It is really weird.

I wonder what is going on in the

dynamics over there.

It's,

and we follow train think tank

programming.

That's I mean, I,

I have like interaction with Mike

McGoldrick.

I don't know.

It's just so strange.

Well,

and Jamie's gym has been affiliated with

TTT for a long time.

Yes.

So, like, this is just weird.

It is very weird.

And we don't really know much, so... No,

I've followed...

And we're both friends with Kyle, so...

Yeah.

Yeah, this is just crazy to me.

I...

I don't know.

I was hurt when I don't even know

like hurts.

I Brandon leaving like shook me.

Because that's who I spoke with,

like all the time.

And then I don't know,

I just found a new normal.

Mike kind of took over things.

This is just weird.

I don't know has me doing some thinking.

Yeah.

he just did the throwdown announcement

with Mia on Thursday it's it's so weird

and I know they've filmed those weeks

before but still yeah the season's just

getting started I'm sure there's gonna be

a weird stuff happening all over the place

but we have hit our time yes we

have I have to get up for a

biopsy in the morning so there will be

no lunch with the Clydesdale tomorrow

Good luck.

Yeah.

Thanks.

Hopefully this is the end of all of

the medical stuff.

This is the last step of all of

the process.

And so, so yeah, lung biopsy tomorrow,

get the results later in the week.

And then we go from there,

but we'll be live on lunch with the

Clydesdale most of the week.

As long as I don't have the followup

during lunch.

and um i don't know maybe i don't

know we'll see what happens with the open

announcement maybe we'll have to do

something in in the middle there somewhere

i don't know we'll see oh gosh i

forgot the openness this week jeez i know

you're talking about the open i was like

oh my god i just clicked that it's

this week oh my gosh yeah it is

uh it is open time i love the

open

So, yeah, thank you for the prayers.

Thank you for the thoughts.

Thank you for the good luck.

Hopefully this is the end of it all

and everything is back to normal and we

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that.

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