Gender & Intersectional Identities in Gaming Podcast

Welcome back to our Podcast about LEGO Star Wars: The Skywalker Saga where in today's podcast we will be talking about Episodes 7-9 and exploring the topics of slavery, systems of government, and character relationships within the game and how it differs from the cinematic experience.

Show Notes

Dill, Karen E., et al. “Effects of Exposure to Sex-Stereotyped Video Game Characters on Tolerance of Sexual Harassment.” Journal of Experimental Social Psychology, Academic Press, 18 June 2008, https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0022103108001005.

Starwars.com Team. "LEGO Star Wars: The Skywalker Saga is Here!" Starwars.com, 2 April 2022, https://www.starwars.com/news/lego-star-wars-the-skywalker-saga-is-here. 

What is Gender & Intersectional Identities in Gaming Podcast?

A podcast by students enrolled in Film Studies/Gender Studies 404. Students will discuss topics of gender and identity in In Sound Mind, What Remains of Edith Finch, and LEGO Star Wars: The Skywalker Saga.

Hey, guys, welcome back. My name is Preston. I'm

Steven and I'm Colin. And we're back again on our

podcast. Talk about Lego Star Wars, the Skywalker

saga. Today, we're looking at episode seven, eight

and nine, talking about the systems of government

slavery and the character relationships.

Looking at slavery, we're going to talk about the

first five minutes of the movie on Episode seven,

we saw Ray as a slave under to kind of her poor

living relationships. And in the game, it never

really showed much of that and never really gave

us, like, the dangers that she went through

Stafford Scavenger in on the crew, going through

the destroyed star destroyers never really showed

us the struggle that she went through until she

left U2 with thin, obviously.

And how badly she was treated by the person who

owned the camp. Yeah, as a scavenger, you got to

find different debris and stuff flying around.

Jack, who and what she would do is bring it back.

And that's how she would get her portions for food.

And we saw that she was treated pretty poorly,

getting less portions than the other people

because she was a female there. And it was just

hard to see how poorly she was treated. And I feel

like the game kind of just skipped over a lot of

that. But also movie seven. And I just did not

talk about slavery as much as one through sister.

Yeah, that's true. It's not the only thing that

was actually missing from this. A big part of the

movies is actually the system of government that's

going on. And that's the first order and then

ultimately the final order. And, you know, in the

movies, it's a huge plot point. You know, their

rise and take over trying to basically emulate

what the empire did and eventually, you know, do

more and exceed what the empire did. So with that

missing, you don't really, you know, get a feel of

a lot, I guess, of what's important in the story.

Like, you experience things very differently than

a moviegoer would, I guess is my point through

that. Yeah. And, you know, kind of at the start of

the movie seven, we kind of have the first order,

but we also have the republic, which is just not

mentioned within the game. And as we know from the

movies, the star power base is operational and it

does fire once in the movies. I believe it

destroys coarsen and I think it's five or six

other planets, planets or at least a total of six

planets. And that was the New Republic, like that

was what replaced the empire, which obviously does

rise again as we see in Movie nine, which is

depicted. But the mention of The New Republic, I

guess, that came to be is just not mentioned. It's

kind of tossed aside. And we just don't see the

government power struggle, which seems to be the

main focus on. Movie seven and nine in the New

Resistance, so, yeah,

so next we're going to talk about character

relationships. And to start, I'm going to talk

about Kyle and Ray's relationship, and they have

quite the interesting relationship in the in the

video game. We always see Kieran shirtless when

he's talking to her. They're admired in the force.

So they are able to communicate with one another.

And whenever they communicate with each other, we

always see Kylo Ren shirtless extremely more than

he is in the movies. In the movies, he's only

shirtless and probably three scenes max in the

game. He's shirtless more than he is, has a shirt

on. They even have a shirt shirtless and

characters you to play as. So it's quite

interesting to see how in the game they decided to

go more with the shirtless Kylo Ren over the just

normal killoren in his normal suit and mask. Yeah,

it really weirded out the relationship between

them for me and not Canali, but another

relationship that was visible and evident. In the

last trilogy was Luke and Red, and, you know, in

the movies, Luke is a father figure to Ray and

kind of replaces her family and just gives her

what she needs

and in the game. I did not get any type of vibe

that Ray liked Luke as a father, I just thought,

you know, Master Paduan relationship classic, you

know. But nothing nothing to do with family at all,

and I think that that definitely, definitely was

missing and just kind of messed with the character

development in the game, because then you don't

get a lot of what like who Ray is. And then the

last moment of, oh, hi, I'm Ray Skywalker. Just

like it doesn't have any meaning, really. And it

just that just didn't sit right with me. I think

they could have done a lot better in that in that

specific area. Yeah, I would I would agree. I felt

like a lot of the relationships were kind of like

kind of pushy within the game. I'm going to talk

about Finn and.

Can't remember her name right now, Rose. That

relationship within the movies was forced enough,

as is, but in the game, it just feels like not

evident. They just didn't exist. There was no you

got to play one mission is them doing the gambling

thing and finding the master coder. But that was

that was it. There was no concern, Uncrate. There

was no relationship drain between those two in

episode nine either. It was just like nonexistent.

I will say, though, I did read an article and in

the article there was a quote that says Female,

that video game characters are consistently shown

as beautiful, busty, scantily clad sets objets.

Women in video games are also underrepresented in

marginalises. Games rarely depict female heroes,

even when a game has a female lead. She is likely

to be a sexual objectified as example by two

mothers, Laura Craft and I will say, I think Lego

Star Wars editor job of not sexualizing any of the

characters within the game. I mean, they are Legos,

which made it probably a little easier. But there

is, you know, slave labor. We talked about it in

the last episode. They removed her cleavage as a

character. There's no they don't. They did a great

job not sexualizing any characters within the den.

Yeah, this game really showed kind of how up to

times it was in the last little Star Wars game.

There was there was cleavage on slave. And, you

know, when I can't remember where I saw I was I

think it was on Twitter where it was actually a

big thing like that. It was taken out and not in a

negative way. It was in a positive way, like, hey,

good job and I'm in complete agreement. I think

it's more up to the times. I mean, again, it is a

Lego game, so it is a lot easier to, you know,

take that stuff out. But I think when it's the

small things and small steps that shows the

biggest progress sometimes. And, you know, hey,

good for Lego.

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