Fostering community unity through education, advocacy for patients and plants, and efforts to eliminate stigma.
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Unknown
Okay. So, everyone. Hello, this is Molly. I'm Molly, the cushion you reach conversations with Kush podcast tonight I have one of my very dear friends returning to the podcast, Miss Jamie Croyle. She was my very first guest a year ago. We've come full circle and so many things have changed already. A year, February 1st. Yeah. Wow. Yeah, I see time year time.
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Unknown
Yeah. Time flies when you're having fun, doesn't it? Yeah. What have you been up to do you have, like, a special announcement that you want to do?
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Unknown
I know you do. So go ahead and, make your announcement, because I really want to hear about what's new and interesting in your life and how things have changed so many in so many ways. I'm trying to figure out which announcement to announce first. Oh my gosh, there's more than one. Holy shit, I wasn't expecting this, so.
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Unknown
Okay. Yeah. Go. So yeah, a lot has happened in the last year. I think that we all know that Minnesota has been kind of one of these topsy turvy, who knows what's happening. Yeah. In the space, in the cannabis space. And I just continue to be there. But, the last year I have focused a lot of my studies in psychedelics.
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Unknown
Okay. So I spent a lot of time, I think I said that even kind of halfway through about the six month point, we're at the growers meta. So about six months ago. Yeah. It was. Yeah. So graduating, that I graduated in January. Woo hoo! Good job. You know, it was a little bit more than what I thought it was going to be.
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Unknown
Yeah, I walked in, so it was pretty hefty on the plates. But the big announcement that I have is that after seven beautiful years in retail, I am moving on. Oh, my gosh, I'm going to close the shop. Wow. That is a really big announcement. And I I've known about this for some time. Thank you for, trusting me with your with your information.
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Unknown
And, at first when I first heard it, I was sad and, like, devastated for you. And then you went on to say, no, Molly, this is exactly what needs to be done. And so I've tried to support you through all of that and be happy for you. So yeah, I can't say that it good. Yeah, right. You know, I feel like I feel like a lot of the last seven years has been, you know, hit it.
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Unknown
Shout out to Molly Cronk to some guerrilla dance. Here we are. This is our, in case of emergency break glass joint. So thank you. Molly Cronk. Thank you. Molly. So. Yeah. Go on. Yeah. You know, it was a really hard decision to make. I have started to really embrace that. I'm one of the first women in the space to hold, you know, straight up brick and mortar.
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Unknown
Yeah. And, and and I've made so many connections and and a lot done a lot of building, the last seven years and creating some really beautiful spaces and some really beautiful connections. Yeah. Yeah. Retail wasn't it. It that wasn't the main dream. So as we circle back around, I'm just in a spot where, it's time to go and continue chasing my dreams, you know?
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Unknown
Yeah. And and this has been a dream. It's been a dream come true, right? So many people would, you know, love to be in this position. Yeah. And I learn so much about business. Sure thing. And it's just time to take a lot of those tools that I've used. Yeah. And learned and what? Yeah. Thank you. Yes.
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Unknown
Go forth. Right. When did you get into psilocybin? So, like, how did that whole process start and, take me on this journey? Oh my gosh, what year is it? It is 2025. Okay. So I would say, you know, I've got this kind of in a nutshell about what brought me to cannabis wise, basically end of life caring for my grandmother.
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Unknown
Okay. Back in 2016, I didn't have a relationship with cannabis at that point. But it became kind of apparent that I needed help. I needed something during caregiving for my grandmother. So that's when I found CBD. That's when I wanted to come back to Minnesota and really allow others to have access to this thing. That really helped me.
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Unknown
So, and then cannabis is kind of morphed since then, and it's always been sort of that trajectory that I've been on. Yeah. And immediately reestablishing my connection with cannabis. And that's been a long process because I'm very sensitive to it. However, that's not why we're here. The psychedelics came so then after my grandmother's end of life care was my mother's end of life care.
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Unknown
Yeah. And I was fortunate enough to be able to go go down and spend the last couple of months with her and really be with her, you know, as she transitioned. Sure. Was cannabis a part of that process or for her, anyway, it wasn't for her. Okay. No, it we tried to really educate her and inform her and and I'm talking to myself, my family.
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Unknown
Yeah. That was even outside. And it was her choice to not. Yeah I think about that a lot. But, you know, I had a similar experience with my dad. My dad didn't want anything to do with that either. So when you have to respect their wishes. Absolutely. Yeah. So but it helped me get through that process of seeing him transition.
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Unknown
And you know because that's tough. That's tough. So yeah. So after the death of my mom I found myself just kind of orphaned. You know, she was my best friend. You and me. Yeah. That is when someone actually sent me some mushrooms. And it was from someone from, like, very far back. Had some angel. Friend of mine's son.
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Unknown
Wow. Okay. That's cool. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So he had sent me some and you just started connecting over, and he's, you know, was teaching me some about, his experiences with it. And, you know, honestly, I can't remember how I found microdosing. Okay. But I found it and I went through a six week course on how to microdose, and it changed my life.
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Unknown
I mean, it just it changed my pattern and my thinking. Love connected me to yours. Yeah, I'm relating on so many levels right now because, as you know, I did my own cohort with, microdosing psilocybin this past year, and it is life changing. I mean, everything, you know, I'm 50 years old and I'm like, just now learning things and figuring things out.
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Unknown
That's like, why didn't I know this 30 years ago? You know, and why wasn't I able to cope like this 30 years ago? And why didn't I? Why did I wait so long to become. Well, yeah, sadly, you know. Yeah. Well, and I think that there's just that knowledge gap and there's of course, the stigma that people are like, what?
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Unknown
Those are drugs. Why are you taking those? That's not medicine, you know. So this is what we work for every single day on this podcast and in your store and, you know, in the space. So, you know, I have just as many people coming and being curious about microdosing and psychedelics as they are. Cannabis. That's awesome. Every day.
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Unknown
Yeah, yeah. Someone, some just person came in and they're like, oh, are these drinks going to make me feel shrooms out? I'm like, no. Because you sell a lot of functional mushrooms in your store. Yeah. So yeah, they have some lines of my, some drinks that some have caffeine, you know, but typically have like, lion's mane. Reishi.
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Unknown
Yeah. Adaptogens of various kinds of 99, various things and are just good for chilling out. Yeah. So hurry down, folks. I mean, this is your opportunity to pick up some drinks. I mean, you're going to feel like that. Yeah, right. Okay. So fast forward. How did we get here? How did we get to the House of Oil Works dissipating?
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Unknown
And, you know, you moving on to a new endeavor. And what is that? You know, finishing school. I have also been suffering a little bit of burnout. Yeah, I believe it takes ten days and go away and do nothing, right? Care. Maybe not even care for myself. And.
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Unknown
We're going to come back and we're going to have to, like, kick triage. You like, are you okay? And if you move or moan. Well, no, you are.
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Unknown
You know, as, as school started to sort of finish up around January, I also had an opportunity to go through an accelerated course, for licensure in, Colorado. And.
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Unknown
And here we are where we are. Yes. So I extended like another month and a half of training. And that was there was some, asynchronous stick training, but most of it was in person. Okay. And, what one would call clinical hours. So. Okay, go to Portland, Oregon to do those clinical hours because they're the only state that is legal.
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Unknown
Them and then the city of Denver is legal, correct. They're much like Minnesota, where it's do not have a functioning like final rules are just coming out. Okay. It will start out in May. Okay. Okay. And then here then in Minneapolis, it's decriminalize. Am I getting that term correctly or. Okay. Tell me about it. It's actually deprioritized.
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Unknown
Gotcha. Okay. You know tomato tomato. Yeah. Yeah. It is really what it is. But I feel because I'm a pretty conservative person when it comes to things like this, like that tomato. Tomato is a little bit different because deprioritized in Minneapolis means no one's looking for anything. Right? It's it's not a priority. Right. But also, you know, because they're not looking for it.
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Unknown
It's not really kind of out there, but it's not technically different. Okay. Gotcha. Yeah. Okay. So moving on. Sorry. I don't mean to get segue, but I think that's good information that the audience should know is there. And I'm always getting that question like, what about shrooms? Isn't that illegal? I'm like, well, yes.
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Unknown
So you did what we would call in the nursing field, like your practicum or like your, I forget what they call it, but it's like your clinical hours where you like, go and you help people actually take them on journeys, help them through microdosing protocols, help them learn how to use psilocybin in an intentional way. Sort of.
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Unknown
This was specifically for people who want to come into a healing center and take a journey. Okay. Yeah. So there's a medical intake form. There's and that's kind of all pre journey. Okay. Journeying inside that clinical setting, which is called the Healing Center. But what I went to in Portland was very beautiful. Okay. Like like an office.
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Unknown
Yeah. Very, put together. Yeah. Great. On beyond. Yeah. Trees everywhere. Beautiful. Yeah. It was, it was a vibe. So people could really commune with nature, which is one of the things I think psilocybin helps us do. Yeah. And cannabis. Sioux city of Portland. Wow. It was a was it a green space? No. Oh, okay. Oh. Oh my gosh.
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Unknown
Okay. You can actually look. But it was like being in kind of a fish. Yeah okay. Okay. Gotcha. Okay. Just imagine, you know, being in an altered state of consciousness. Yeah, yeah. Portland. And watching it go by, kind of surreal and, you know, having a whole building to to do that. That's cool. Yeah. So, it's sitting with people who have taken mushrooms and then also there's, integration and really taking your client through integration, helping them land a little bit back on to, okay, Earth.
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Unknown
And then really but it's very non directive. It's, it's a very non directive approach. Okay. Can can you just define what is integration. Just to find that term for me because I always say it and I'm like I wonder if I even know what it is.
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Unknown
It's really taking some of the insights and challenges and things that, have come up and integrating them into, like, okay, and that can be on various levels. Integration. One of the things that one of my mentors once said was sitting with your trim for ten minutes a day and really just keeping it alive, we when we open the doors this, this, this March, when we open both French doors and.
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Unknown
Yeah. Hello. A lot comes in. Sure. And so sitting with that and, like you would a dream, right? Really journaling about it, thinking about it, keeping those insights, those aha's, really at the forefront. Because if we don't keep them at the forefront, then we get back, life gets in the way and we forget about and we get back into our old crappy patterns, right?
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Unknown
Versus, you know, going forward with the knowledge that we've learned. So integration needs to start kind of immediately, post journey. Okay. It can be in the way of movement. Art of collage journaling of talking. Those are kind of kind of some of the big one. What's your favorite way. Oh my gosh. You know.
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Unknown
I don't think it's talking. No it's really movement okay cool. All of those things. But but I have taken to journaling okay. Art comes next. And so like I was on the plane home from Portland, I didn't even, listen to anything. I just had the back of my notebook and I kind of made this art piece sweet and, and kind of been coming together.
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Unknown
And now I'm putting it onto art, really. I'm doing it digitally right now. Okay. Exciting. Okay. Yeah. And and I work on it at least once a week. That's cool. Really knowing that, these things that I brought in, I think about them and I remember them and it helps keep me on track and like the things that I want to change.
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Unknown
Yeah, I love it. It's really awesome. I, I'm excited for you. So to take that now and go forward and help other people achieve those things in their life, you know? Yeah, it's beautiful, man. It's really beautiful. Yeah. You know, it's part of what the dream was to begin with. Okay. Was that I was in a little office space, but I was people were coming to me and I was trying to help them, get better through plant medicine and and really like herbs.
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Unknown
Yeah, yeah. And, and then having a little retail store, like, the retail portion was like this little spot, right? This little square inside, you know, my office where there was some high selling vitamins. Right. Everybody comes in for some good vitamins or something. And then I would have those for them to purchase if they wanted. Yeah. Otherwise anything would be done online, like through like full script or any kind of, assignments or supplements that were in there.
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Unknown
Sure. Okay. Cool. Cool. Yeah. All right. Kind of nurses but not nurses. Well, I mean, plant medicine is a little bit broader. I think, you know, people that have studied for a long time and like, you know, I think about you are probably close to the equivalent of like a Ganga in the psilocybin space or maybe further or or, you know, I don't know, I don't know.
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Unknown
Yeah. Would it be like a shroom here? Yeah. Right. That's a good one. Psilocybin a I don't know. Now what do you think. What do you think? Like it's from the shroom. Yeah. Mommy shroom. Assure me.
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Unknown
I love it, but, yeah, like having that and then it's it is almost a little bit more because you have that clinical application then where you're actually like, oh, geez. Yes. They have all this knowledge. Right. But I think it's still up to the person to experience cannabis in their way and like develop that relationship. Whereas with the psilocybin you're actually facilitating someone using that medicine in a super intentional way to get wellness, to get healing, you know, to solve the problems that they've been thinking about for the past 50 years.
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Unknown
So it's a little bit elevated. It is elevated, yeah. But there's also this conception that, you know, the phrase, it was like a year's worth of therapy. In one session and I feel like that's been sensationalized a little bit because much like cannabis when these are tools. Right. Exactly. You know tools aren't they. Don't they're not AI tools.
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Unknown
They're not going to do it for you. Right. Right. Right. So and it's not a cure. It's a tool towards wellness. You know what I really like to say? It's like writing electric bike. Oh okay. Yeah. As much. Sure, sure. You still have to pedal. Yeah. So when you come up to the big, you have to stay upright.
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Unknown
Yes. Yeah, yeah. All the things. It's just, it's a it's a faster track maybe, but I like having to do the work. Yeah. You know, a lot of people can do the work on their own. A lot of people, you know, want that guidance. Yeah, I step in. Yeah. To deepen it, to enrich it. And and also the tools that I bring to people are tools that they can use forevermore.
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Unknown
So it's not sure, you know, it's not like I'm making people come back. I'm really teaching people how to use this tool. Right. And offering, you know, deeper containers where you you can go into that a little bit safer. Yeah. That's exactly how I feel, is that now, you know, before I was maybe using psilocybin just for fun or like, you know, to help with social anxiety that that's normally what they help me for the most.
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Unknown
But then when I did that cohort, I was like, oh, I can actually really make this work for me, you know? So now I have that tool, as you said, that I can go forward and my next thing is doing a big journey because I feel like I need that ego death where I just, like, break it all down and oh my God, it's really scary.
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Unknown
So how do you approach that in your practice for people? If they do, they have to be ready. I mean, yeah, I feel ready. Yeah, yeah. Everyone has to be ready. Yeah. And set in setting. Yes. It's always about the set and setting and even sometimes the setting, can be your home, but it's not the right set.
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Unknown
Yeah, yeah. You really, you know, when you are in your home, you're surrounded by all of your things. Exactly. But here in Minnesota, we don't get to go outside a whole lot sometimes. Yeah, well, and you might be in your home where you have trauma around those things that are there, you know, whether it be like a difficult relationship with your spouse or one of your children or, you know, maybe you have a problem with like hoarding or something, you know what I mean?
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Unknown
You know, or, you know, your home reminds you of, like, seeing your mom die in it or, you know, things like that. So a lot of energy in our container for sure. And you know, when you are ready to do the work, I mean, there is a difference between recreational and, and there's always something to said to be out in nature and connecting with nature.
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Unknown
And if that's what you want to do, I mean, that's great. It's just really taking away some of the outside, things that are happening. And turning inward and oftentimes that takes a blindfold. Yeah. To really keep you inside yourself. If you are in an altered state and you know, you're looking, you're like oh my God that was.
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Unknown
And it's so nice. Yeah. Really you need to go back and get on the canoe and keep rolling down the river. Right. And that's not saying that people don't do that. Yeah I've had, I've been in I don't know I found the star and I was enamored with this like star for ten minutes. And then my sister was like hi tap tap tap.
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Unknown
Yeah, yeah.
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Unknown
I'm going to go back in. I remember doing that before I did my cohort just thinking, like, you know, more shrooms than a normal microdose and like, going to sleep and like, putting my noise, blocking headphones in and, like, seeing the sacred geometry and like, oh, my God, it's so cool. So, yeah, it's very important to. Yeah, music is very important for you along.
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Unknown
And I feel like psilocybin is whatever you're going through at that time and you're going to start processing that shit right then and there pretty closely to it anyway. If, if that's if you're just doing it nilly Willy, you know. Yeah. Well, and that's sometimes what will take people sideways is that they'll be in this recreational setting or they're taking a larger dose or even just, you know, in their own home thinking I'm going to have a good time.
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Unknown
And then it's like, oh, hello? Nope, you're grounded. And this is what you're doing the whole time. Yeah. And now you're crying and. Yeah, totally. I don't want to use mushrooms in front of people. It's it's a lot of outside, like, I'm sure that lower doses would be okay, but when I'm doing the journeys, I'm doing it for my own ride.
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Unknown
Yeah. And it is really great in a group setting, too, because you're on like a ride with other like the energy is just so. Yeah, that's interesting. I guess I never really thought about, you know, because I always think about doing a journey. You're like by yourself and you're, you know, it's. Yeah. And I guess you're right, doing it in a group would be like so different.
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Unknown
And I remember watching that movie that's that show that they have on, like on, Nine Perfect Strangers, where they're like all streaming together, you know, and like their movement and like, all this crazy shit's going on and they're, you know, seeing things and talking to people that aren't there and, you know, stuff like that. I've never had that experience with shrooms personally, but I've been in a couple of retreat settings and I never it's never been that way.
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Unknown
Yeah. Like everyone just kind of builds a nest and you're in the same room together. Yeah, you can't move, but most people just put their blindfolds on and go for the ride. And yeah, sometimes people will get up and do things and wander around, but but it's not like nine people together are doing Taichi, you know?
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Unknown
Yeah, exactly. And I'm big mounds of mushrooms. Yeah. One of the good things that they brought up about when I did my cohort. So it was a bunch of nurses. It was all nurses. So we have this shared experience where microdosing in our own way back home. But then we come together in this group setting and we talk about it, you know?
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Unknown
Yeah, exactly. And so part of the, the process is that we witness what other people go through. And I think that's really important. So I see the value in doing it in a group setting to just to quietly observe someone else, you know, going through their process and however that looks for them. I think that's important that we see each other when we're doing this type of work.
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Unknown
If we want to be seen, you know, and if you're in a group setting, you want to be seen. Yeah, that's what you're there for sure. Connects humans together because so often from the outside, everyone, we have to have a perception and outside perception that we have our shit together. Right? You know, and being with a group of people, being vulnerable together allows you all to embrace and encourage and love that you may not have been together.
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Unknown
Yeah. And that's okay. It's just a support through that. Yeah. Yeah. Beautiful. And you know, when you're in a container, did you, microdose with several others in this group? No, we never dose together. There was an opportunity to do that. And like towards the end. But we something happened and we weren't able to do it. But did you like, on zoom or anything?
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Unknown
Oh, yeah. Yeah, yeah. Every week there were like certain themes that everyone was kind of going through. Yeah. But I thought it was related to being a nurse I guess. So there was a lot of family shit that was coming up for people to that I was not relating to, but I could see that that was identified in several of the other people.
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Unknown
So I was like, oh, okay. Shit. You know, they're just all of the groups that I came through. I've been through three six week microdosing courses and then ten months with, that same entity.
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Unknown
Doing going through facilitation, but through the six week programs, it was you just there always seems to be something that had that was very synergistic. Yeah. Throughout the groups. Yeah. I led a microdosing group in January and there was several common and like intentions that people are bringing together. So I, I find that really fascinating that yeah.
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Unknown
Groups there is a very common theme as well. And I think that's part of what mushrooms do. They even in the world. What's the name of that Netflix documentary, The Magic World of Mushrooms or something like that, where they talk about the, the organism, the fungi organism is like a web over the Earth that lives below the surface and connects all the trees, all, every blade of grass, every drop of water.
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Unknown
I mean, it's really cool. And mushrooms are highly intelligent, so they can talk to each other from, you know, I can talk to one mushroom here, can talk to one in China.
00;28;36;02 - 00;28;58;25
Unknown
So yeah, I mean it's just really cool. I'm so glad I found it and I'm so glad you found it. Yeah, it can really tell, like how much it's helped you grow. Like I've known you for a few years now. We've come a long way together. Yeah, we really have. But, you know, I've just watched you grow in so many ways, and this is, like, the happiest I've ever seen you and, like, the most at peace.
00;28;58;25 - 00;29;22;02
Unknown
And I'm just really grateful for that, that you found that. So it's been a long road and I wouldn't change any of it. Yeah. It's like a if, if something is like a closed door, like, you know, it's tell everything in our but spirit is telling us no, no, no. Like that's a blessing. Like we can take that and go forward or move around it into something that's better for us.
00;29;22;02 - 00;29;57;07
Unknown
So yeah. And and that's we only have one conscious life here, right? I mean, we and it's not that long. Yeah. And you know, when I was in, Alaska this year. The context of microcosm versus macrocosm really became apparent to me when I was on this ship. That whole 3000 people. And I'm looking at, you know, this rock that's probably three miles tall, right?
00;29;57;09 - 00;30;18;14
Unknown
You know, and that's very macro. Yeah. And then you look down and you see a little tiny bow down. It's like this big, you know, and you're like, wow. Like you get to see all of these perspective. Yeah. And, I don't know where I was going there. Me neither. But I was I was going for the ride.
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Unknown
So let's move forward. What is this new brainchild? Because if I know you, you're one of the most creative people I know. You have cooked up something. So what? What's on the docket? What do you got going on? Well, I still have the Minnesota women's cannabis. Yeah, yeah. So we're getting ready to, launch some stuff there.
00;30;39;29 - 00;31;09;04
Unknown
Yeah, I'm excited to hear more about that. Yeah. But, so Grove is probably going to, you know, Soul Grove is what it's called. Okay. Okay. You know, it's really coaching. I'm not done, with my education. Just. Okay. But I'm going to be offering microdosing coaching, one on one. Okay, in-person on zoom, and then also some group, I'd love to do some groups in person.
00;31;09;07 - 00;31;44;02
Unknown
Okay. And then I will probably offer them via zoom. Nice. Okay. Like to, you know, go into cannabis coaching and microdosing other substances besides just psilocybin. Yeah. You know, with that, definitely. I have really helped some of my peers in the by the course that I was in, connect with cannabis. Okay. Cool as well. Okay. So, you know, there's people from all walks of life that come there, but I'm, I'm so centered in cannabis here, you know, there's so many people that that can coach.
00;31;44;04 - 00;32;04;22
Unknown
Stepping outside, I got to do a little bit of that. Yeah, a lot of fun as well. I love your, That's awesome. Congratulations. Yeah. I'm really excited for you. I really like your educational talks that you give. I know I came to the House of oil works once, and we did a whole night on Amanita, and you know what that was good for?
00;32;04;22 - 00;32;26;12
Unknown
And, you know, you know, how do you take it and what might it do for you and what do you need to look out for? And, you know, so it was really informational and I know that you have some other things like that maybe you want to do. Yes. Okay. I am definitely, will be hosting education. I'll probably be doing some of that online as well.
00;32;26;18 - 00;32;42;09
Unknown
Okay. I set something up in the house. Okay. Nice. Yeah. You're a lifelong learner, so I feel like, you know, you talk about. Well, I'm not done yet, and it's like, I know you're not going.
00;32;42;11 - 00;33;06;16
Unknown
Like, because I want to integrate it, I. Yeah, coach. Yeah. Like that's the end result is coaching. And it's not just for microdosing but the school that I started back in Covid before mushrooms became the main quest. Yeah it was it started as a side quest and became the main one was to be a master herbalist and a druggist practitioner.
00;33;06;17 - 00;33;30;05
Unknown
Okay, cool. I'm kind of back on that again. Okay. Finishing that out. And yeah. So it's all encompassing, right? It's not just mushrooms, right? Yeah. Beast for sure. And that's what we need. And all of those things support the endocannabinoid system that we already have intrinsically. So great work. Thank you.
00;33;30;08 - 00;33;41;14
Unknown
So tell me a little bit about your mission statement, because I know you brought it. You're so professional.
00;33;41;17 - 00;34;09;04
Unknown
Okay. So so Grove exists to empower individuals on their journey of self-discovery, healing, and transformation through the intentional use of plant medicine. Okay. It's something that I fell in love with throughout my studies. Was young in psychology. Oh, boy. So I bring that perspective. And sometimes of working with the shadow and familiarizing yourself and shadow, and really just embodiment practices, okay?
00;34;09;08 - 00;34;35;19
Unknown
To, help people create sacred spaces. And then I'm going to offer education and cultivate ethical communities where deep inner work needs to enable growth and holistic well-being. Okay. Please. Yeah. Why? That's perfect. You just have to, you know, you're going to say it like, 15 times, and you be like, I got this down and you're going to be able to, like, rattle it off, no problem.
00;34;35;21 - 00;35;07;16
Unknown
Yeah. I was like, I need to I need to memorize this. And then I envision, a world where I'm sorry and you're okay. Oh, it's, like. Okay. This is I envision a world where individuals reclaim their innate wisdom, harness the transformative power of plant medicines, and fascinating, meaningful connections with ethical, supportive communities. Okay, cool and supportive communities.
00;35;07;18 - 00;35;30;20
Unknown
You know, I started to bridge the mystical with the practical, providing accessible pathways to healing, empowerment. And so awesome, I love it. Yeah. I think, let's go back to that shadow work because that that term just, like, lit me up. I love my shadow. I now know who she is. That's very helpful. And I think shadow work is really important.
00;35;30;20 - 00;35;58;23
Unknown
And I think that, it's something that I should probably do with some sort of guide, whether that be like a book of journal prompts or a person that can help me through that. Because it's important to know what your evilness is for lack of a better word. So not because you need to use that, you know, you don't need to use your powers of evil.
00;35;58;23 - 00;36;34;26
Unknown
I mean, you can if you want to. If you want to be a villain, like, more power to you. Yeah, right. But it's important to know that because if you are trying to go forward to the world and become a steward of our community, you need to know the pitfalls that you have and when to draw on that, that dark side of you, when you need to use your voice in a more intentional way, or set boundaries with people or, you know, like that's when your shadow side needs to come forward not to like, you know, beat up on your ex type shit.
00;36;34;28 - 00;37;02;17
Unknown
Without light. Yeah, exactly. It's balance. Yeah. Light and darkness. Yeah. So know thyself. Both light and dark, right? Yeah. Okay. You don't then you know you're boring. Exactly. Then. And you can also choose. Yeah. Right. And I always do say like, are you going to choose your power? Okay. You say that to yourself or to other people. People.
00;37;02;19 - 00;37;29;03
Unknown
Yeah. I mean, yeah, you definitely need to know when to draw on those things that, you know, make you feel a little bit stronger some days. So. Yeah. Yeah. Well, it's also just recognizing where, you know, those triggers can be and when, when you're familiar with that, you can rename it a little. Yeah. Well and to see and to know that people are your mirror, you know, so if you looking over at someone, you're like, oh, fuck that person I like.
00;37;29;03 - 00;38;09;08
Unknown
I don't like them either. Why are they giving me weird energy? Like, you better lean in a little bit and figure out what it is about that person that's inside of you immediately, and work that shit out. But it's very scary. Yeah, yeah, it is, it is. Yeah. And people don't know that they they should I think, you know, these are the lessons that we learn as we go from conscious body to conscious body throughout our lifespan, you know, not just our time here in our previous and our in our next, you know, so when we don't we, we talked a little about earlier when we don't learn those lessons where we're going to
00;38;09;08 - 00;38;40;03
Unknown
be repeating those until we finally do. So that's why doing this really intentional, deep dive into our subconscious and piecing out who we are is important. And it's very important to have a safe, safe space to do that. Yeah. You know, we are just we live in a really fast paced world. And having safe spaces to really slow the fuck down and be able to travel and explore right the self.
00;38;40;08 - 00;39;06;11
Unknown
Yeah. You have to be protected from the outside world in sort of traveling right. Yeah. You're vulnerable. You are vulnerable. Yeah. So maybe sometimes people don't have safe spaces to do that. Sure. Yeah that's that's a great point actually. And yeah it's a really good point in space a lot of people don't find sanctuary in their home.
00;39;06;13 - 00;39;29;18
Unknown
For a million different reasons right. A million different reasons. But but just it's always the work is like, is that in setting. Right. Yeah. We're going to explore that shadow, not under an altered state of consciousness. Sometimes that can get a little dicey when you don't have a safe space to really. Sure, sure. Like those guards down.
00;39;29;20 - 00;39;51;03
Unknown
I don't know how much you can really talk about this, but, like, so let's say I'm going to come to you for a consultation and I'm going to come in person. What would I expect? What could I expect for that? Like, what services? Yeah. Like what types of services. What would our visit be like? You know, probably really talking about, what your intention is.
00;39;51;05 - 00;40;15;11
Unknown
No. Why? You're seeking it. What kinds of work you've done up till now? Okay. What type? Drug usage you've had, you know, in the past, and we're talking all kinds. Yeah. Or, you know, let's call substance use. Yeah. Perfect. Thank you. I hate that word. Yeah. I always say it, though. I'm like, I'm doing the drugs tonight.
00;40;15;14 - 00;40;41;25
Unknown
And people are like, shut up, Molly. Quit talking like that. Right? Quit talking like that. Molly. Don't make it weird again. Yeah. Anyway. Sorry, sugar. My. Thank you. Coffee's mine. I think, what was I, I don't know, so what can a person expect. Yeah. So on a one on one, we just we would probably go over, like, what a person is looking for.
00;40;41;25 - 00;41;06;17
Unknown
Are you looking for a group? Are you looking for, you know, plant medicines or are you looking for. I hope in some, you know, in the future holistic health. Right? Yeah. Yeah. Vitamins and supplements. Yeah. That's not ready for that yet. But in the future. Yeah. And you know, really honing in like, do you want one on one or are you looking for a group experience.
00;41;06;17 - 00;41;26;18
Unknown
If there's a group experience then, you know, here's what the next one is. And and the criteria. Sure. One on one we can talk about whether you just want a one off. I mean, some people want to ask me questions for an hour. Yeah. For sure. Either way, we'll we'll talk about whatever it is you want to talk about.
00;41;26;20 - 00;41;48;12
Unknown
Or a six week, a 4 to 6 week sort of microdosing. Journey. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. So that's kind of what I did. So we went on a protocol call. Yeah. And so and I know there's several different protocols. Do you individual do individualize those for people or are thing was this is the protocol. But you can choose your own adventure.
00;41;48;16 - 00;42;10;12
Unknown
So if you know just don't do it every day. They said you know because you need to take a break. There's no research that says, you know, microdosing every day is really good for you or bad for you. So yeah. So you should take that break. Yeah. Exactly. Yeah. It it is curated for the person that we depend on.
00;42;10;12 - 00;42;33;14
Unknown
I feel I personally feel like someone who has never microdose before. And this is their first time that there are a couple of different protocols that are easier. Sure. To ease into for someone who hasn't done it. Sure. But someone who is familiar with taking it, even, you know, larger journeys, different protocol might might have to work for that.
00;42;33;15 - 00;42;51;23
Unknown
Yeah, but it is individual. The reason why I couldn't do it. So theirs was like, Monday. Tuesday. No. Excuse me. Monday. Wednesday Friday off. Tuesday, Thursday, Saturday, Sunday. But I couldn't do it like that because, like, you know, I might have to work on a random Wednesday, you know, and then I would be taking the medicine that night after I got home.
00;42;51;23 - 00;43;10;08
Unknown
So I was like, well, I really want the efficacy or the benefit of it, you know, throughout the day. What if I'm, you know, like doing mundane tasks and a lot of times I'll just kind of go inside and listen to my music and kind of get out of my head a little bit. And I was just thinking like, wow, it'd be nice to have a psilocybin on board during that time.
00;43;10;08 - 00;43;31;08
Unknown
So I didn't always have to think about processing my bullshit. I could just enjoy my experience and turn those voices off, because that's kind of what it does for me. It helps me to be more present, and it turns those voices off in my head that are saying, you know, you're not pretty enough, you're too fat, you're not smart enough.
00;43;31;08 - 00;43;51;04
Unknown
You know, it turns all those voices off so that I can be comfortable in who I am in a social setting, because it's mostly in social setting when there's like a bunch of stimuli coming at me at one time. So that's when I kind of break down. But man, I never knew that kind of stuff about myself until I went on this journey.
00;43;51;04 - 00;44;21;23
Unknown
So, yeah, you know, sometimes it's ugly. I'm like, oh yeah, okay. Well, that's why that's that. Yeah, exactly. Was it like that for you? Like, what's your experience like with which one's both. Both. You know, I really liked the microdosing. But I find that I resonate with Amanita. Okay. A little bit better. Sure. But I do continue to microdose and do and do protocols.
00;44;21;23 - 00;44;45;02
Unknown
I just do them probably a couple of times a year in addition to, the journeys that I do. So I'm averaging some sort of altered state of consciousness this last year. Probably every other month. Okay. And that's a lot okay for me. Okay. It's been a lot. Yeah. So I need to sit down and process, like, integrate.
00;44;45;06 - 00;45;11;09
Unknown
Yeah, for my life. But is ten days going to be enough? Yeah. Yeah, yeah. It's a good start though. Good start. Yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah. Okay. So, doing it, you know, six times a year you said. And. Yeah. So I would say what does Amanita do for you if you need it. Desk for me. Yeah.
00;45;11;12 - 00;45;36;12
Unknown
I find that as I've aged like the A.D.D. and ADHD is just really out there for sure. Cannabis actually, exacerbates that for me. Me too. Dude. Yeah. Me too. So, and it does not do that for me, okay? Just ground me and allows me to get work done. Okay? So sometimes I will spin in circles.
00;45;36;14 - 00;46;12;04
Unknown
I'm, like, picturing a top right? No. Yeah, but I'm relating, though. The mushrooms have unmasked. Yes, they have. Yes. Right. Oh. More in the last year. Like how how I think I'm thinking patterns are and how they aren't what I thought they were. Sure you know, it's the shit we tell ourselves. It's crazy, you know, so that we can feel normal.
00;46;12;06 - 00;46;30;28
Unknown
But, you know, taking those larger journeys, it turns out that default mode network. Sure. So we've always got the process there's happening in here. And you know, the modulator donkey later I think is what you would call it. Hell yeah.
00;46;31;01 - 00;47;03;12
Unknown
Shout out to Croyle. So it shut that down and allows noise to go away. Just yeah sad right. Those voices. Yep. Just processes those thoughts. All of that just kind of get shut off because the psilocybin comes in. It says, all right we're shutting down. Yep. Yeah. It's almost like it protects you. It protects you. I'm also it's like a I always say cannabis like, really brought the veil down for me so that I could open up and be open to things.
00;47;03;15 - 00;47;36;18
Unknown
And it's almost like with mushrooms. It protects me. It shuts other shit out of that is doesn't make me feel safe. So yeah, it's been awesome. And for my audience, I just like, want to. I hope that you're listening to this conversation. If you've never tried psilocybin before and just tapping into like, this isn't something that's making you feel, hi, I want to get that point across about especially about microdosing, because, you know, people's eyes just like get buggy when you tell them, yeah, you know, I've been microdosing psilocybin.
00;47;36;18 - 00;48;03;02
Unknown
So like what? Like mushrooms. Yes. I don't feel high. I don't feel high. I feel affected because it's almost like something like a switch turns on and I feel suddenly more chatty and more social and more happy. You know, but I yeah, but I don't feel like, oh, my God, I got to sit down and I'm not going to be able to get, you know, Abcde cross off my list today now because of this.
00;48;03;04 - 00;48;29;26
Unknown
So it's not like that at all. You know, that's a a common misconception. Totally. I'm seeing is what a microdose actually is. And much like cannabis, a microdose for someone is going to be individual, right? It's also going to matter what type of mushroom you're ingesting, right? So different mushrooms are going to bring different, things to the table.
00;48;29;26 - 00;48;51;23
Unknown
There are going to be some that are a lot heavier. You know, one 100mg of golden teachers is not going to hit the same as 100mg, like a penis envy, right? They're going to hit different. Right. So really knowing what you're taking and you know, what hit you're getting, is, is critical to that. And that can change.
00;48;51;23 - 00;49;22;05
Unknown
So it's really being able to calibrate into what your body needs at the moment. Yeah. Which might change. Yeah. But also how much exactly how much. I have heard up to half a gram as a microdose. And when we're really, truly talking about some perceptual, microdose. Yeah, that's typically under 300mg, right? Yeah. I have a gram.
00;49;22;07 - 00;49;48;08
Unknown
Right, right. So great point. The thing that I experience and I can only talk about my experience and you can share, if you want to, what the people might experience with you. That's completely up to you. But my experience was that we were sent varying doses, and 50 was actually the recommended. If you've never tried psilocybin before, this is where you might want to start.
00;49;48;08 - 00;50;11;20
Unknown
And then titrate your way up to where you think you're at a bright spot, just like cannabis, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. But lowest, most effective dose, right. But you know, and then they were like, you know, for people like Molly that, tried, micro doses before your dose, you already might know it's 100 or 200, you know.
00;50;11;20 - 00;50;35;06
Unknown
So start there and and go from there. So yeah. Will it be a similar experience then? That's that's kind of what you'll recommend. Yes. Okay. I feel like calibrating and learning to calibrate is probably one of the bigger tools. Is maybe your intention for it. And that's really where the protocols come in. Like you can bring attention to it.
00;50;35;06 - 00;51;00;28
Unknown
What is something that I want to focus on right now. Sure. So if that's creativity because you have a big creative project then to do that might take a little bit more. Because you're trying to push the envelope and really get those creative juices flowing. Sure. Another person with, you know, the same thing might be looking for self-love.
00;51;01;01 - 00;51;22;22
Unknown
That might take just a little bit. Yeah. And I mean, one time you're working on self-love and another time you're working on creativity. Those are going to really have their two different intentions, and they hit different. Right. So that means everything's changed. So to really say that 100mg is your sweet spot forever and ever, I don't really find that to be true.
00;51;22;22 - 00;51;48;04
Unknown
Yeah. Do people need to do like tolerance breaks where they like, abstain for longer periods of time? You know, there's not any research out there. Sure. I think it's just part of harm reduction. Yeah, yeah. You need to take breaks. Yeah. Really? I recommend no more than eight weeks. And if you do go eight weeks, then take definitely two weeks for sure, you know.
00;51;48;04 - 00;52;20;14
Unknown
But if you go 30 days, then you can take a week off and maybe try it again. Yeah. Intuitively as well. Sure. Times a week I bring it up only because there's been a lot of chatter about tolerance breaks in the cannabis community, I think recently, and having to like, reset those receptor sites, you know, and just like really take a break if you're finding that you're smoking too much or you're having to smoke more to get the same desired effect, or, you know, and I don't want to just blame it on smoking.
00;52;20;14 - 00;52;45;19
Unknown
You know, people consume the way they do. But, yeah, just taking those tolerance breaks, I think is important sometimes. And I've heard people say I've learned more through my tolerance break than you know, when I was actually in the midst of consumption. So it's important I think it's very important. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I really do think that we need these tolerance breaks everywhere.
00;52;45;21 - 00;53;11;09
Unknown
For sure. Including social media including junk food, you know, not going to McDonald's anymore or you know usually. Yeah for sure. That's bringing attention to something. Right. You know. Right. Right. Life intentionally. Yeah. When when you make even these micro goals and these macro goals. Really my intention is to not, you know, go to McDonald's for two weeks, right?
00;53;11;16 - 00;53;30;13
Unknown
Or I'm going to do all of that. No more fast food. Right? That's pretty easy for me anymore though. Yeah. For sure. Yeah. I'm like so turned off by it, I'm like, oh yuck. Why are you eating that? I'm definitely I'm getting all those when I eat at home. Yeah. Well I don't eat. I mean yeah, I hear you.
00;53;30;16 - 00;53;55;09
Unknown
Yeah. So let's what's happening in the next few weeks then tell us about House of Oil Works. How that's all wrapping up. How are you launching? How can people reach you? What's next? Everything will probably start to sell on March 1st. Okay. Yeah. So I'll be launching some sales throughout that. And then I think my last day will be for 20, so it's.
00;53;55;09 - 00;54;24;22
Unknown
Yay. Yeah. I right now I don't necessarily have I think the biggest consternation that I have, now is that I do not have any place to send. Yeah. And that one is a hard sure. Right. So, so I am working on something in the background to try to be able to, make sure that everyone that has been coming for a long time.
00;54;24;22 - 00;54;45;18
Unknown
Yeah. Okay. Thanks. Yeah, I heard that actually, that same sentiment echoed. I interviewed Kara, Jensen a couple weeks ago at her shop, and she said that when she went to Duluth, she was, you know, getting the store ready, and people were coming up to the store where had been previous, like, supplement store. And people were like, oh, I'm just looking for, you know, ABCd supplements.
00;54;45;18 - 00;55;07;00
Unknown
And she realized very quickly, like, oh my God, I can't leave this gap in this community. That's been shopping here for the last 20 years. So very, very, well thought out. And thank you for that, because, you know, you want people to feel supported in the community that you've developed, right? I mean, I, I love that this has been the hardest part.
00;55;07;01 - 00;55;30;07
Unknown
Sure. That are coming in, are going to be affected by this. Yeah. And and that's really what most of my people are. Yeah. I probably have more of 70% of my clients are return clients. Yeah. And 30 are just, you know what for sure. I've been around long enough that I, I have some people from North Town.
00;55;30;09 - 00;55;54;21
Unknown
Yeah, yeah that have been with me for seven years. Yeah. So that's something that I will really, really miss. But I'm super excited for this next chapter. Getting everything sold out. I'm probably going to keep some that will slide under sold growth. Okay. So you know my, my do the circuit a little bit. It frees me up.
00;55;54;21 - 00;56;12;14
Unknown
Yeah I don't know what's next. Sure. Okay. You know. Yeah I don't know okay. Well I'm here for the ride. One other thing I just want to mention, too, that you've. I just want to give you some accolades, too, because, you know, I've come into your store before and you have, like, city councilman coming into your store.
00;56;12;14 - 00;56;35;21
Unknown
You have, you know, politicians coming through there. You had, Representative Smith, I think, from Rochester, come up and do a class. When they talked about the, the task force and trying to get a bill introduced into our, to our legislation, to our legislators psychedelic task. Yeah. Thank you. Do you want to talk about that a little bit?
00;56;35;24 - 00;57;01;05
Unknown
Okay. I just know that it's coming, okay? And people are thinking about it and very intentionally, people want to be able to bring that to, the larger community. Yes. Yes, there are definitely some bills being introduced. But I'm not really sure where they're going yet. There are actually a handful of bills, some decorum, some medical models.
00;57;01;05 - 00;57;25;15
Unknown
So we'll just kind of see what happens this time. But there is the psychedelic task force that has just so graciously been working on this. There's also a couple of fringe groups that are really working on some things. So we're not silent. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I like it. Yeah, I, I need to hear people's voices and I want to hear them roaring and screaming if they have to.
00;57;25;15 - 00;58;12;07
Unknown
So you, the term goal here is to be like facilitator number one and. Okay. Manifestation. Yeah. Yeah. So I like it. Yeah. I would love to, to be able to be, a part of what's happening. Yeah. The other thing I want to talk about is just how beautiful it was that I think you supported Jude's girl community and, you know, just made a space for him and his people to come in and really just, get into community over growing cannabis and, you know, bringing that forward and feeling like a place where I was like, Holy shit, I found my people, man, I know.
00;58;12;08 - 00;58;35;01
Unknown
Yeah. Crew that comes. Yeah. You do? Yeah, it is a crew. I love that crew too. Yeah. We're working in the background on that one too. But yeah, it's been a beautiful, beautiful community. And just new people coming to it all the time. And it's a really safe space for people to learn about growing. And. Yeah, your nerd.
00;58;35;03 - 00;59;04;04
Unknown
Yeah. I love it. Which leads me to your innate ability to grow and support community. And it's one of the things that I really, really love about you. And, I'm really excited to see what you'll do in this space and how you'll make a community there. You're amazing. And I love you. And congratulations. Yeah, yeah. Thanks.
00;59;04;07 - 00;59;28;02
Unknown
Thanks for coming on and and telling about. Yeah, telling everyone about what it is you're going to be doing and and sharing such, a vulnerable thing. Like, I'm sure it's not easy. I'm sure there's some days where you're like, what the hell? You know, there was something I couldn't take off the wall. Right. Yeah. And I if you see me crying.
00;59;28;04 - 00;59;32;17
Unknown
Pass me a tissue.
00;59;32;19 - 00;59;55;01
Unknown
So this allows me the ability to connect with my community. Yeah. The one where you really feel at home. Yeah. You've, you've built a home for everyone else and now you get to build your own. And I think that's awesome. So yes. Okay so for 20 get out to House of Oil Works by March 1st look for the sales.
00;59;55;01 - 01;00;09;12
Unknown
There's going to be lots going on. And then make sure you follow and share and support Soul Grove. Tell them where they can find you so you can find us at us meeting the.
01;00;09;15 - 01;00;17;28
Unknown
And offer integrated parts. Her and her shadow.
01;00;18;00 - 01;00;41;00
Unknown
Can be found at Soul Grove dot net. And that is so, Grog that, I do have, like, you can set up a discovery call and we can chat. I will also collect your email, but I do have discovery calls available, which is the 30 minute kind of free consultation. Awesome. I'll tell you what I can do for you.
01;00;41;00 - 01;01;04;22
Unknown
We'll really talk about what you're looking for. But I also hope to have just a list that you can, get on my mailing list so I can let you know. I do have an Instagram. You do? Do. Okay. What's that? What's that? I have one follower. Okay. What? No, you're about to have to fuck that shit.
01;01;04;24 - 01;01;35;09
Unknown
Let's make this happen. Wait, what? Oh, How I hope I'm one of them. If I'm not, I'm about to be okay. Shit. Okay. Obligatory. All right, so it's Soul Grove? Yes. Okay. The underscore, soul Grove I don't even have a picture of yet. Okay. Yeah, well, that's goal number one before you go home or when you go home tonight, I found you.
01;01;35;12 - 01;02;01;01
Unknown
I found you a soul grove. The soul grove. Is it one word? Oh, yeah. Okay. Hold up. I'm not connected to the internet in here. I never, but. Okay. Okay, okay. We in there? We in there, we in there? You're seeing me on the ground floor. This new thing. I love it. Yeah. I'm so excited for you.
01;02;01;01 - 01;02;23;03
Unknown
So I really just want to say one thing. Yeah. Tell me. Please. You do know that this is the year of the dark. Oh, I know, I know, I didn't know it was the year of the dark feminine. But I am here for it 100%. I think you're a Libra. I'm a Capricorn. We are Cardinal signs. This is our fucking year, dude.
01;02;23;03 - 01;02;52;03
Unknown
Okay to take over. So pinky in the brain right here will be, coming to a theater near you soon. Because we are the main characters. Yeah. No. Yeah. This is awesome. Yeah. So at this time, for us as women to, like, burn that shit down and rebuild it, okay. Yeah. I have a lighter. We write at dawn.
01;02;52;06 - 01;03;20;15
Unknown
So, anyway, thank you again. Thanks for being here. Congrats on everything coming up. And, that's it for conversations with Kush podcast. Everyone please go. Likes the underscore Soul Grove on Instagram and support Jamie at Soul Grove Dot net and, make sure to like, share, comment, and subscribe on the podcast to conversations with Kush. And I'm Molly the Cushion.
01;03;20;15 - 01;03;22;22
Unknown
Signing out. Peace.
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Unknown
You.