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There is a dark, dark underworld
that is all around us.
It is even through the center of our
hearts, the line of evil that runs
through each and every one of our hearts.
And some of us like to soak it in.
Some of us really actually
love the darkness.
Some of us love being pulled into
the, the deception to the, the lust
of our flesh and our, our lives.
We love to soak in that other
of us hate that others in the.
Try to pretend that it doesn't exist.
They isolate themselves.
They pull back, they lock themselves
up away in closets and cave sometimes,
literally, and sometimes just burying our
heads in the sand, trying to pretend that
the problems of the world don't exist.
But the question for today is
how can we live our lives in the.
How can we live our lives in the midst
of the dark underworld that surrounds
us while at the same time, holding
onto our values and not compromising.
Hey, it's Lucas Skrobot and your
listening to the Lucas Skrobot show
where we uncover purpose, pursue
truth and own the future episode 270.
It is February 10th, 2000.
And 22 and I have been, I've been
pondering thinking meditating, chewing on
this thoughts for gosh, about two weeks
now I've had some conversations with
people around the idea around trying to
grapple with what I'm, what I'm trying
to get at what I'm trying to express.
And so we're going to talk
a little about that too.
Um, in the context of some current,
current and social events, good night.
So that the overall arching question that
I'm posing in today's episode is exactly
how, how do we hold onto our values?
How do we hold onto.
Because it's truth that sets us free.
I've mentioned this before.
A lot of us were, and I
started this podcast in this
way, talking about purpose.
What's your purpose.
We need to know our purpose.
If we own our story,
we can own our future.
If we know our purpose, we can
do what we were created to do.
But the reason we're searching for
purpose is because we see others who
seem to be fulfilling their purpose,
or maybe are fulfilling their.
And we're St man, they have
something that I don't have.
They have freedom, not just freedom from
the nine to five potentially, but this
interior sense of freedom of honor, I am
walking out my original design of what
I was placed here on this earth to do.
And it's that sense of freedom,
but freedom and in man's search
for meaning, uh, for Victor.
Talks about this as well in his book,
man's search for meaning freedom
is not an outward expression of, I
have the perfect job I'm doing the
perfect thing everything's lined up.
I have the 2.5 kids in a white picket
fence and the house in the suburbs.
Whatever your ideal dream of living
your purpose might be, might be it's.
I have no job and no
house and no picket fence.
And I'm able to travel the world and
see everything that I want to see.
We often think that it's these exterior
trappings that are keeping them.
From our purpose, keeping
us from our freedom.
That's holding us back, but it's truth.
It's truth that sets us free.
And it's not just knowledge, but it's
truth is something that's applied, which
makes it cultural, which is going to be
coming up in our Weaver and loom section.
Great.
Gosh, this killer quote
from the Japanese samurai.
Uh, uh, the ways of the warrior.
So great quote, coming up towards
the end of the show today, but
it is truth that sets us free.
So how do we then walk out our principles,
walk out truth, walk out our values.
Wow.
At the same time, when someone.
Thinks differently than us when
someone else disagrees with us, when
someone else violates our boundaries,
how can we then not violate our own
values and boundaries of being a nice
person, a kind person, a loving person.
How do we not violate our own values
in retaliation to when someone violent?
Our values or when the world in and of
itself seems to be violating the very,
the very fabric that we hold dear.
Well, we have some stories about that.
Today's show first, the first
story of, uh, the violation of
values and boundaries on a really a
global scale it's PornHub PornHub.
I'm sure you know, is probably the,
I don't know if it's the biggest,
but probably one of the biggest porn
sites in the entire world, there is
so much, uh, abuse on that platform.
There's so much trafficking that actually
takes place on that traffic platform,
human trafficking, sex trafficking,
girls who, and boys who are brought
into the sex trade at an early age, and
then are now being monetized on this.
But here's this little graph.
And if you have a podcast, 2.0 certified
app that you're listening on, you be
able to see that the cover art on the
podcast is changed to this image where
it says the number of years, it took for
each product to gain 50 million users.
And it starts with airlines
that took 68 years for them to
gain 50 million users than cars.
62 phones, 50 years, electricity, 46.
Credit cards, 28 TV, 22 goes on and
on till we see that took 12 years for
a mobile phone to gain 50 million.
Uh, the iPod gained 50 million
users in four years, YouTube in four
years, Facebook 50 million users in
three years, Twitter in two years.
So, and then PornHub in
19 days, it took 19 days.
Now this chart is a little bit dizzy.
And this is why we see a progression
of things of technology, which
enables a network effect.
So that's one support.
Hump comes around.
They're able to leverage and utilize
things like YouTube, Facebook,
Twitter, because there is now a word
of mouth network that you can easily
grow, not easily, but you can easily
grow to 50 million users in 19 days.
So there's that.
Say that in some ways, this is not
deceptive, but there's other things
that are at play that enables PornHub
to get 50 million users in 19 days.
The other thing though, that is
quite telling is that, wow, we have
a re the globe across the globe.
Doesn't matter what nation you might
be living in has a real problem with
an addiction and addiction to porn.
And that addiction to
pornography is fueling.
The sex industry is fueling the
degradation of our moral values, PornHub
pornography, the, the, the dehumanizing of
our intimate relationships, that something
that's meant to be between a husband and
wife, but it now it is proliferating.
Through the internet where the internet
is a very dangerous place for either
someone's struggling with an addiction or
kids because it's two, three clicks away
and you're right there and it changes
the dopamine patterns in our mind.
It rewires us and it is
an addictive process.
Even the American psychology
association says that if you are.
And you were looking at
pornography that constitutes as
being unfaithful to your spouse.
That constitutes as having an affair.
That is the level of betrayal that
another person feels when their
spouse is looking at pornography.
So it's not just a surface level thing.
It's not just that.
Well, you know, some people like that
sort of thing, and it's really okay.
No harm, no foul.
Really?
It is, it does something
to our brain chemist.
So how, how, how do we then, how do we
then walk out into the world knowing
that it's at everyone's fingertips
to everyone's at every moment.
And probably most people
around us are engaged in that.
Do we just totally cart blank, try
to condemn and cancel and shut down.
And it sensor every single, not just,
not just pornography, but sensor, any.
Or anything that might then challenge our
values that might go against our values.
And that's what leads to this next story.
This next story it's,
uh, truly, truly tragic.
Uh, I guess not tragic.
It's it's disgusting.
It's horrible.
It's criminal.
It's violent and it.
In no way would, should anyone
ever condone this, but in Iraq,
in Northern Iraq and Kurdistan,
there was a trans woman.
So a biological male who transitioned
to become a female using a lot
of makeup, I guess this person,
uh, dose dosey, um, those sick.
Was his or her name, um, was
pretty popular on the Twitters
popular well-known and her, his
brother killed his brother, sister.
I don't know how, how his pronouns
go, but he was this transgendered
female male, male became female
was killed by his brother.
And then fled the country, put
a bullet in this person's head.
Uh, totally, totally wicked, totally evil.
And you know, this is now it's being
considered a honor killing this,
uh, the brother who committed the
murder fled fled Curtis standard.
Reportedly now lives in Germany.
Um, So there's two, there's two
things that are at play right here.
First, the first thing I play is
one it's.
This is not new.
You look, you look across the
globe and even the Arab world,
or even the Persian world.
And you see that there are boy
yachts girls who are dressing
like boys in are engaging in.
Culturally inappropriate
relationships with one another.
You see across, uh, central Asia,
young boys, um, frequently dancing
and being, you know, essentially
abused pedophilia, uh, across many
of these cultures across the globe.
And this is dated back
for thousands of years.
And this is something that frankly
we're seeing in the west is.
Pedophilia is not something
that is foreign to the west, but
so we see that there are these
values that are being broken.
These family values that
are being destroyed.
There are principles that we
as monotheistic faiths, uh,
see that are being violated.
We can, we can, and we
talk about it so much.
You're on the show.
The LGBTQ.
Uh, AA agenda.
We know that it is a, an agenda
by the media to de sensitize
or youth to then push forward.
It's really a Marxist agenda, where there
is no family structure where people do
not know who their parents are, where
there is no stability in people's lives.
Why?
Because if there's not stability
in people's lives, people will then
go on to rely on the government.
And if you're relying on the government
and the government has power over
you, and it's all about power and
control back to a personal level,
we look at this story of who was.
And on a cultural standpoint from
a middle Eastern perspective, some
people are making the argument,
well, this is an honor killing you.
We, we have to uphold our community
values and this is how we uphold them.
But from my perspective, murder,
murdering someone is far worse
and criminal wicked evil.
The trauma that this person may be
in, or the decision, the lifestyle
that this person is living.
And I know many times when I talk
about out about this, I get pushback
from many people in the west
saying, well, yes, but what if a
trans person listened to your show?
How would they feel about your show?
And I don't take that question lightly.
I do know that that's not the audience,
however, I, I want to be a person that
holds onto my values and my principles.
Who's able to say,
actually, no, this is wrong.
Living this type of lifestyle,
whether it's, uh, living in a co
habitation relationship, whether it.
Uh, gay marriage, whether it's the
LGBTQ agenda that is targeting youth,
whether it's young girls and young
boys going through transitions, which
is happening in the west without
their parents knowing about it.
This is a, a Luciferian demonic
agenda that is coming after our kids.
It's coming after this coming
generation more than ever before.
There's a poll that was done in the.
That said that 30 to 40%.
I don't remember the exact number
ballpark of generation Z identify
in some way, shape or form as LGBTQ
plus, which is a shocking number.
Just absolutely shocking.
So it's been a successful strategy.
And we talked about this just a couple
weeks ago about the film that came out
in Egypt, which was celebrating these.
Amorality in morality.
And there was outcry to cancel Netflix
because of the, because of the, uh, trying
to desensitize their youth through the
celebration of non-traditional values.
And this is what we talk about.
So, how do we hold onto our
values, continue to speak?
What is true while at the same time,
seeing the individual and being able to
be a source of help and life and light and
comfort and mercy to those people clearly
honor, killings are not the way to go.
Clearly just casting a stone of
judgment against someone is not the way.
However I see across global
culture, global culture, not
just in one place global culture.
We have a tendency to
other, the other person.
We have a tendency to say, oh, you
think a little bit differently than you.
We can't interact.
We can't have a relationship.
We can't have any sort of mutual
connection because you might corrupt.
You might corrupt me if we think
differently on hard issues like the
Palestinian Israeli conflict, you might
corrupt me because you don't have the
same humanitarian values that I have.
Now that can go both ways.
That does go both ways.
If one person is saying, well,
you know, I can't be friends.
I can't be friends with you because
you don't share the same human
rights that I have because I think.
Israel is an apartheid state.
And we need to just do away with all of
Israel, all of the Jews who aren't really
Jews, we need to do away with them, which
is my opinion, a call for open genocide.
Both sides are equally offended.
The side that is pro Hamas saying, well,
I can't, I can't engage with you because
you believe in you support an apartheid
state, which has been said, The irony.
The deep irony is the converse is true.
The opposite is also true, which is
well, that means that I shouldn't want
to engage with you or befriend you
because you support and promote an
open call for genocide from the river
to the sea is real shoulder Palestine.
It goes both ways.
So that clearly to me is not the solution.
What is the solution?
Well, a third story, which I think ties
back further into the fact that we really
do live surrounded by a spiritual world.
And we know this, we all know that.
I think even the, the atheists know this
and we, we see it as evidenced by our
cultures, fascination with poor films,
cultures, fascination, with, with whether
it's, uh, um, astrology, which is not
just the study of the stars, but it's the
reading of the stars or their fascination
with tarot cards or Eastern misses.
Doesn't matter, maybe it does
matter, but I don't think it
matters really where you're from.
We all know that there
is a spiritual route.
There is a clip that came out
just this week of a woman who was
rescued from being trafficked in
America and a quite a tragic clip.
We're going to play this clip.
This is in no way, shape, form, or
means meant to humiliate or disgrace.
This.
Who has been through a world of
abuse, um, likely see Canik ritual
abuse because that's really what
the trafficking and prostitution is.
It is satanic ritual abuse.
Here's a, here's a clip from.
Here's the club.
If they right there, before we move
back up.
Ma'am ma'am, we're going
to have to taze you.
You're not going to like,
you couldn't hear that.
You said I don't understand
what you're telling me.
If you're not watching, you can see a
clip of her trying to get out of a car
as the police officers trying to put her
in a car and she screaming, uh, hissing,
clearly evidence of demonic possession.
But this is, this is
the, the broken state.
When I, when I look at this woman
and I think of the millions who are
trafficked globally, millions across,
across the middle east, cross Asia,
across China, Russia, Europe, Africa.
America in America, 300,000
kids are trafficked.
People are trafficked every
year in America, 300,000.
Not all of it is sex trafficking, but a
large majority of it is across the globe.
Now all of it is, uh, sex trafficking.
A lot of is labor trafficking, essentially
enslaved labor slavery has not gone away
in by any stretch of the imagination.
It's not gone away, but the
level of oppression, the level
of abuse that people go through,
it can be easy to cast a stone.
It can be easy to say, well, we
need to just throw these separate
ourselves as far as possible.
Culture, separate ourselves
as far as possible from these
issues that are happening.
Let's not talk about these taboo issues.
Let's dumb it down.
Let's dumb it down and keep it simple.
Keep it non trigger warning, but
it doesn't make the issues go away.
And it doesn't help people like this poor
woman who is, who has suffered tremendous
abuse and that tremendous abuse.
The entry point for it is PornHub the
entry point for the abuse that these men
and women go through, because one out of
five people who are trafficked are male,
and the average age into practicing or
prostitution, at least in America is like
eight, between eight and 11 years old.
Very young.
These are innocent children
who are being abused.
Sold and then further
monetized through pornography.
So our actions there in that dark
underworld, that's all around us,
where there is a spiritual world
that is influencing, influencing us
that is, has this in an addiction
many times or a spiritual world
that, that not only causes.
Or might further entrap someone in
identity crisis, not knowing who they
are, not knowing who was I supposed
to be, but then a demonic realm that
then would drive someone to murder
their own brother for the sake of.
I don't really have answers.
I don't have, I definitely don't
have answers to these questions,
but is the thing that I grapple with
is the thing that I grapple with.
How do we show and hold onto our values?
Wow.
Still loving the person in front of us.
No.
And this is where it falls kind of
all over the place and apologize.
But this is where it's, there's a
moat on both sides because one side
can say and fall into the moral
relativism where we say, it's okay,
everyone can do what they want.
Let everyone just live.
As we want.
The other side can live in it,
fall into dogmatism where we say,
this is the way it has to be.
And if you think differently than you're
out, Neither side is helping the abused,
the oppressed, the, the poor physically,
financially, or spiritually poor
person that is trapped in this bondage.
So how can you build a culture in
your life where you are able to engage
with people who are not like you,
where you are able to engage with.
Who are broken, we're hurting for a
falling for oppressed or struggling
who offend you and offend your values,
who offend the things that you stand
for, who things that fly in the face of
everything that you believe to be right.
And true.
How can you care in a genuine
way for that person while at the
same time, not compromising on
the things that you love and.
Yeah, that makes sense.
In a post-truth society where we've
exchanged truth lies and reason
for postmodern irrationality.
The absurd finally makes sense.
Well, we think that the digital
VR world of safety bubbles is
going to save us from the dark
underworld, but I'm afraid not this.
Or I guess it was last week, uh,
a woman by the name of Nina Patel
was virtually gain raped on Metta,
which is Facebook's, uh, VR platform.
And she said that within 60
seconds of her logging into.
Corizon venues, which is
the VR world owned by Mehta.
Formerly Facebook Patel said that
three to four male avatars with
male voices, essentially virtually
gained, raped my avatar and took
photos as they tried to get away.
They yelled.
Don't pretend you didn't love it.
And some other crude, some crude things
that are not worth repeating, but
this is, this is the digital world.
Oftentimes the digital
world really brings.
The worst in us.
And it, it, it brings out in many
ways, the things that we restrain
in normal society, because we
have this veil of anonymity.
We have this veil.
Well, people don't really know who
I am so I can get away with this.
And it's just the digital world.
Anyways.
There's not a person on the
other side of that screen, and
that can happen through wars.
We get in common sections
where that can happen in making
obscene comments or posts.
It happens in the consumer, the
consumption of pornography, and now
it's happening in these VR worlds.
Now it is not that digital
technology is bringing.
The worst in us or that all of a
sudden this is a new problem that
digital technologies are causing.
Rather technology is
merely exposing the truth.
That's already there.
It was a V Victor Frankl, who you
mentioned earlier in the show who
wrote man's search for meaning, who
says that there is a line of evil
that runs down the center of every
man's heart that each and every one
of us has a incredible propensity.
For evil and that should frighten
us and that should scare us.
So human nature is evil.
Human nature.
You look across the world.
It is evil.
Mankind is not basically good
is that's just a fallacy.
It's not, there are people who,
whose lives have been transformed,
who used their life for good.
There are.
Who strive against the darkness
in one's own heart, but that's
not, that's not everyone.
And that's not that shouldn't
be taken for granted.
That's not a given well, this
falls into, yeah, that makes sense.
Because this is where the world is moving.
We're moving to more digitalized
platforms, more digitalized engagements.
And I hope, I hope.
I hope that we begin to pull
back from it and we begin to
engage in real life with people.
I hope that the next generations begin
to do that as well, but I also realize
that the digital world is real life.
We can easily say that.
Well, Instagram isn't real life.
And I've said that I've said that even
this last week, Instagram is not real.
Don't get overly concerned with what some
stranger thinks about you on the internet.
It, it is real, but it's not real.
However people's experience life
experience is growing in the composition
of digital experiences that they
will have across their lifetime.
And that does make up a
real portion of their life.
So in this post-truth system, We're
where we are substituting life on life
engagement for digital eco chambers,
because that's something that the internet
has done, which has been an amazing
thing and an amazing curse to humanity.
It has caused us to be able to
connect you and I we're connecting
because of the internet and likely
the likelihood that you think a lot
like me is probably pretty high.
Cause I know for a fact.
People who disagree with what I say are
not coming here, listening to this show.
They're not, we are talking because
we think in a similar way, we have a
shared level of culture or values, or
even maybe it's geographical location.
There's something that is holding us.
So that's amazing.
Cause we were through the digital
world, we're able to find our tribe.
We're able to find people that like, oh my
goodness, you think like me, you feel like
me, you see the world the way that I do.
But the downside of that is when we
are confronted with real life people in
front of us who don't think like us don't
feel like us, you don't see the world.
That the way that we do no
longer are we forced to confess.
Ourselves in that instance, no longer
are we forced to have relationship
with people around us that aren't
like us, that disagree with us.
That will challenge the things that we
say that will challenge the things that we
think, which think causes us to have the
ability to pull into our echo chambers.
And it causes us to have more and more.
Not self fulfilling.
Prophecy is confirmation bias is the
word I'm looking for, where we begin to
think that everyone else thinks like me.
And when we find someone that
doesn't think like me, oh
my goodness, I've never met.
I've never met someone that
thinks differently than I do.
I didn't know that that
person actually existed.
I thought that was just some
fringe alt, whatever that's out
there, which is why back when.
Uh, president of the United States
when I'd meet someone who clearly
I could tell was probably, uh,
very much didn't like Trump.
Normally they say something about it early
on in the conversation about how insane,
uh, former president Donald Trump was.
And I would say, oh
yeah, I really like him.
I voted for him and they'd be
like, they'd be so shocked.
They'd fall out of their chair.
But I would say it not.
To then get into a debate, not to
then hit each other over the head,
not to cause controversy, but to
have a space where all of a sudden,
I'm not in my echo chamber anymore.
And that is a healthy place to be
building a community around you that
doesn't think like you building a
team around you that doesn't think
like you building a team around you.
That's not yes.
Mans.
Yes.
Womans.
Yes.
Children.
Yes.
Peers.
Yes.
Mentors.
You want to find people who were,
who challenge the way that you think.
Otherwise it will be very easy
to fall into traps that will
quite easily de rail our lives.
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We will be right back with our
closing Weaver and loom segment.
Welcome back to Weaver and Luma part of
the show where we take ancient wisdom
and we weave it in with our everyday
lives that we can own our future.
And we've our Destiny's today's quote
is from, uh, booshie do, which bushy
do is a moral code concerning samurai
attitudes, behaviors, and lifestyles.
I took that straight off of Wikipedia.
Now there are multiple codes or types that
have evolved throughout the centuries.
Um, and today we have a
quote from it, which I love.
I just, I really love
this quote who she do.
Moral code culture says a
culture is not a set of beliefs.
It is a set of actions.
It's not a set of beliefs.
It is a set of actions.
This is, this is exactly
what we talk about.
We have a set of beliefs, a set of ideas
that we hold true, but the only create
culture, if we act upon them and I
would even go as far to argue, we only
believe something that we act upon.
We only believe something
that we act upon.
If we believe a certain business.
Or a certain stock is
going to be successful.
If we believe a certain way of
living, whether it's exercise or
eating healthy is going to create
the best result for our life.
If we truly believe it, then
we will act out upon it.
Otherwise we have a conflicting
set of beliefs somewhere deep down.
We have some sort of cognitive dissonance,
which will we, we will then find evidence.
To undergird or to undermine that
positive belief, because we realize
that there's a cognitive dissonance.
If I believe that working out
is really going to help me.
I know it up here, but
somewhere deep down, I believe.
Ah, well, I'm, I'm still young.
I'm still healthy.
Uh, I know that working out will be good
for me, but I don't really think it's
going to change my life all that much.
So I, I undermine my belief
of, Hey, you should write.
Well, because I do that and
I don't act upon what I know.
And therefore I know it.
I don't believe it.
I'm not actually creating a
culture in my life that is
leading me to where I want to go.
And this is the very thing
that we've been talking about.
We have our beliefs, we have
the things that we know are.
And when we act out on that truth,
that truth becomes activated in
our lives and transforms our lives.
It's not enough to merely know
something, but we have to live it out.
It's not enough to have the right
outward forms of saying the right
things and checking the right boxes.
We have to have that transform our
inner belief system, which then
transforms the culture around.
I hope that you go out this week
grappling with this question.
It's not a easy one, two punch for
this question of how do we hold onto
our values without violating our
value of love and kindness and mercy.
Because if someone violates our
values by living a lifestyle or
believing something differently than.
And then in retaliation to the, the
offense that I've received in retaliation
to that, I then violate my own boundaries
of kindness, of gentleness, of mercy.
Self-control of loving.
If I violate that, then I've now violated
my own moral code, my own principles.
And that is far worse than
someone else violating.
That is a betrayal of self.
So go out this week, don't betray yourself
and definitely don't betray your friends.
And one way that you can not betray your
friends is by sharing this podcast with
them and having a conversation about it.
I know this wasn't a three
point, you know, easy 1, 2, 3,
answer here, but it's a question.
Have this conversation, even if you don't
share the podcast, have this conversation.
With other people in your life, how do you
hold on to values and not become dogmatic?
How do you love the person in front of you
and not just fall into moral relativism
and to say, oh, let's co-exist you can
just live the way that you want to live.
And it's fine.
Oh, it's totally fine that you think
that you can murder babies in the room.
No big deal.
You do.
You I'll do me.
We don't want to fall into that.
Likewise.
We don't want to fall into the
other side of the camp where we are
now committing acts of violence.
In retaliation to acts of violence
or in retaliation to someone thinking
differently than us or living a
lifestyle that goes against our moral
set of beliefs or pushing underneath
the rug and not talking about things
that are clearly happening in society
issues that are clearly every, every
youth across the globe is talking
about and struggling through.
We don't want to just push.
Underneath the rug.
We need to talk about it.
How do we then talk about it in a way
that's not normalizing, normalizing
something that we know is ultimately.
Going to corrode and
destroy someone's life.
Thank you so much for being here
on today's episode, episode 270.
I'm so grateful that you choose to spend
your time here with me on the show.
I'd love to hear from you.
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to answer it right here on the show
until then go out, act on truth.
Create a culture.
Your future.