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Circling The Drain is a show about the current state of the music and radio businesses as well as culture in general!
Hosted by John E. Bozeman and Jay Harper along with Jim McCarthy as Co-Host/Executive Producer.
John has had a storied career in music and talk radio, most notably as the Executive Producer for the late and legendary Phil Valentine.
Jay also has has a long career in radio as Announcer, Play-by-Play, Voice and On-Camera Actor. He was also an Artist Rep for MCA records.
Jim McCarthy ALSO has had a tremendous career in radio since 1996 and has since brought his consulting/producing skillset to the podcast world.
Circling the Drain is produced by ItsYourShow.co
Unknown: I wrote a law saying
all cab drivers must speak
English. It was basically the
taxi passenger bill of rights.
Yeah.
And the reason I did that was
when I had a stroke, I couldn't
drive for six months, so I was
forced to take taxis. I didn't
realize 70% of the cab drivers
were Somali, and the reason is
they got here as refugees. They
didn't need citizenship. They
all speak perfect English, but
they're rude and they don't like
Americans. And they pretended
they didn't speak English to
take people on longer routes. So
I passed that law, and then also
that the passenger controls the
music or no music, heat and air,
and also the route. And it's
posted. It was posted in
everyone. So when they see my
number, when I call Yellow Cap,
they won't even answer.
Wow! I wonder why. Yeah.
Welcome to a podcast about music
and entertainment before it all
goes down the disposal. This is
circling the drain.
Hey, welcome back to Circling
the Drain. You know me, Johnny
Bozeman, Johnny B, along with
mr. J. Harper. Hey
there, Johnny B. Suber. Hey,
good to see you. And of course,
as always, running the show is
mr. McCarthy, Jimmy Mac.
And guys, we've got a treat for
you. I don't know how to
introduce this guy because he's
done everything. He's been on
the radio. He he he has been a
comedian. He has done so much in
his life. He's even a lawyer.
Yeah, he's been in government. I
mean,
yeah, and he's tried to stop
scooters in Nashville. What? But
I've got to introduce, and he's
been a great friend of of ours
for a long time. He's not in
Nashville usually; he is, but
right now he's in beautiful
Nantucket. Please welcome to
Circling the Drain, Adam Dred.
Always circling the drain,
longtime watcher, first time
guest. This is awesome.
Well, I wish
I didn't. I missed
you on the radio, brother, too.
Oh, I appreciate that. I
appreciate that. I wish I'd
asked you to be here with us
when you were in town. That's on
me. But it's kind of cool to see
you up in Nantucket.
It's good to be here with the
gray shingles behind me. And
these are, by the way, all the
houses are gray shingle by law
in Nantucket. Are
they really?
They're all Grace Cedar shingle.
Every single house. So there was
a man in Nantucket. Well, that's
the. I was just reading more
shingles. The funny story about
man from Nantucket is I years
ago wanted to buy the domain
manfromantucket.com and it was
already owned. And about 10
years ago, I got a call from
some Russians saying, "You own
man from Nantucket.org. We own
that.com. We sell to you for
80,000 US. And I said, "I'll
give you 70 bucks. And they go,
"Okay. I bought the once was
made from Nantucket is the most
famous limerick in the world.
Yes, it literally is yes, best
known, and so I now own it, and
I have manfromantucket.com hats.
These are make Nantucket
Nantucket again, and from my
merch site, all the proceeds go
to my animal charities. I don't
keep a penny. Oh wow! Just for
yeah. So a Nashville cat rescue
and Nantucket Island safe harbor
for animals. Yeah,
yeah. You're a cat owner, aren't
you? Or a cat?
I'm a crazy cat lady. Yeah. Yes,
I am. Hey, if I can train it, if
I can train a cat, I can train a
jury.
Like a true attorney. So, so
you,
my cat.
Go ahead.
My cat Bonnie Dred actually has
a Facebook page, but she was on
Fox News locally and nationally
because Bonnie is toilet
trained. He is a human toilet.
So, if you go to the YouTubes,
you can look up Bonnie Dred the
toilet trained cat, and here she
is in all her porn, doing what
you think she's going
to
do. So if you ever want to waste
three minutes of your life and
never get it back, have at
it. So how how many times a year
do you go to Nantucket?
Well, I live here almost five
months a year. I actually
practice law up here as well as
in Tennessee.
Oh, okay. So
I commute basically.
Yeah,
but I do avoid the you know the
the they're called hate months.
They're called January,
February, March are literally
called hate months because
that's when the worst gossip is
spread on the island because
everyone hates each other
because no one's here. So yeah,
but I avoid I avoid the I avoid
the most clustery nor'easter
time of year. But otherwise, I'm
probably here every month,
couple days.
And you and you avoid the hate
months in Nashville too.
Yeah, pretty much. Yeah, which
is now. Down there today, guys.
Oh man, it's been brutal. We hit
100 yesterday.
I believe it's 96 at the moment.
Wow. Yeah.
Wait. Hey, since this is a
podcast, am I allowed to swear
or use kind of politically
incorrect terms, or should I
stay away from that?
Well, I'll leave that up to my
cohorts. What do you think? I
just saw the answer in your
eyes, buddy. But I
am very offended by such things.
Well, no,
we we invite our guests to speak
freely. Yeah, go ahead, Adam.
Yep.
No, no, no. In hindsight, this
will be recorded. Invite me in
the ass later. Some bulldog from
the scene, or write some hate
piece about me. So anyway, I'll
leave that alone. Oh, did I say
bold light? Anyway, we're not
even. We can't even say lesbian
anymore. That's politically
incorrect. I know. We have to
say vegetarian. Hey, speaking of
that, so we have our Nantucket
is the best place for Fourth of
July, and we used to have a
water fight on Main Street. The
firefighters in the ladders
shooting hoses, and kids with
squirt guns shooting each other.
This year, it's called it's
called the water game. They're
not allowed to use fight.
Oh no! Not
making this up.
Oh, we have wimpified this
country.
You know, it breaks my heart. I
really think these kids today
would not be sickly if they
drank water from a hose in the
summer and had hose water in
their systems and played
dodgeball. They wouldn't keep
all these little pussy, wimpy,
allergic, peanut scared kids
around this country. Enough
preaching. All right. Seriously,
rolling in the dirt and hose
water. Oh, I agree. Toughing up
a kid. I
well, in fact, we we we didn't
even have seat belts back in the
day. You know, we we and we
sat backwards in the way way
back.
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. And the
cars didn't have jumping
big wheels. How many helmets did
you have when you were jumping
your big wheel?
None. Yeah, I didn't even have
one when I was riding a
motorcycle.
God, I only wear them at my
weddings.
I wear them in my divorce
divorce court.
Oh yeah, you know I got in
trouble in law school. I wrote a
paper once called a prenuptial
weight agreement, and if your
wife gains more than 10 pounds
and it's not due to being
impregnated by you. She's out
with nothing. But to make it
fair, if the husband gains more
than 50 pounds and it's not due
to being impregnated, same deal.
Yeah, you walk with nothing.
Yeah. So I made it fair. You
did.
Sounds fair to me.
Absolutely. So man, I got. So
I'm really honored because I
don't know. Do these run in
order? Because the last one I
saw had a friend of mine on on
the show, Trace Adkins.
Oh yes.
And I've got I've got a long
history with Trace, and I warn I
warn you there may be a little
bit of an inappropriate phrase
here, but it is kind of funny.
Well, so Trace and I met years
ago when he was still Tracy
Adkins, and he was dating Rhonda
Forlaw, who worked at Arista,
and he was playing bars out by
the airport and stuff, and he
told us about getting shot in
the heart by his first wife and
stuff like that. And anyway, I
had just gotten back from L.A. I
left during the riots. That's a
whole other story. And another
buddy of mine, Dave Daniel, who
was in the movie Starman, and I
was doing stand-up comedy, and
Dave was painting houses, so I
started painting houses with
him. And he said, "Trace was
looking for something to do. And
I said, "Trace, why don't you
paint houses with us? I said,
"The wildest part is we were all
over six foot four. And I said,
"This is going to be the best
advertising ever. The company's
called Giant Painters, and our
slogan is 'Ladders are for fags.
Anyway, I
thought it
was funny. Anyway, he then
signed a deal quickly. Lucky for
him. But I used to have business
cards that had the F word on it.
They said Adam F and Dread on my
card, and then whatever was my
title. And anyway, Trace came on
Prime Time Country when I was
feature producer and warm up,
and when you when you're doing
the rehearsal for the TV show
out at TNN, they would broadcast
the rehearsal through the entire
hotel on all the TVs in every
hotel room. So I walk out there.
Trace is on stage, and sure as
heck, turning that microphone,
Adam Effendre in every hotel
room in Alberta, but neither of
us got fired for that. Got the
only time I wait. Oh, the only
time I was really got fired, I
guess, was from WTN. Do you
remember? Oh, you probably
don't. When when Phil went to
Philadelphia,
yes, they brought me
into to fill in for Phil until
they hired a permanent host. So
for some reason, I decided to be
fun to do breakfast on the air
with Chef Freddy Brooker from
the Trace and Absolute Vodka
coming in to do the Bloody
Marys. Apparently, it wasn't
legal to make and drink alcohol
on the radio back then. Oh,
that's right.
I I found that out. Well, you
took one for the team.
Well, you've been on the radio
quite a bit, actually. You, you
were on Lightning 100 at one
time.
Oh, I got myself, I got myself
kicked off of there on purpose.
The way that started was I was
at Thunder 94 which was like
hard rockin' morning show with
like the Ramones, and they let
me do my playlist, and it was a
low wadded station, so there was
lightning and thunder, and
thunder was more like Tori Amos,
and you know that just crap. And
anyway, I took their mail demo
over to '94, and the ads were
like eight bucks a pop, as
opposed to you know 35 at
lightning back in the 90s. So
they told me they were gonna
simulcast us together because I
didn't want to lose my show, A
Man of Leisure Mornings. They
moved me to 100 and took away
94. Oh no, you're just doing
this one now, and they'd hand me
this playlist, and it was like
Sarah McLachlan, you know, the
stuff with dogs dying and stuff,
and I was just so I would just
get on there and go, Adam Dred,
Lightning 100, Lightning 100,
music for angry lesbians. They
go, you can't say that. I'm
like, fire me, and they did.
They just didn't renew my
contract. I actually had, I was
pretty smart back then. I
actually owned 55 ad units a
week as part of my deal.
Wow, that I
could sell and keep 100% of,
which I think they start didn't
like that either when they
realized I was making more money
than the general manager. That
does
tend to make them mad. But I did
the same thing over TNN. Part of
my deal as warm up was I owned
the billboard ads, so the
catering provided by and you'd
have you know Wild Horse. But
what I did is part of it. Not
only would the caterers have to
pay me to be the caterer and
cater. They had to feed the crew
as well as just the guests. Now
in TV shows, most most times
they only feed the guests, not
not the people that work on the
show.
Right. So
I fed 100% of the crew every day
for the three years I was there,
and no one had ever done that
before. And I was like, guys,
this makes no sense. That you
know they're union guys. They
get off work for an hour to go
drive somewhere to buy a meal to
come back and shoot. It's
between the rehearsal and the
taping, and I was like, guys,
it's three bucks, and the
loyalty is amazing. I still get
clients from that, and I wasn't
even a lawyer then. But people
go, you know, we remember what
you did for us, and it's those,
you know, it's those little
gestures that that come back,
it's a lovely. That's my lesson
for today.
Well, you've always been real.
Speaking of, you've always been
real good to me, man. You've
always been real good to me.
Ever since, well, ever since I
met you, I mean, you were you
were at the I think the city
paper when I when I got to meet
you, and man, you were so kind
to me, and I've never forgotten
that.
You guys, let's see. That's what
it's really all about, though.
Everybody's got to. We got to
take care of each other. So I
have a radio. I had a radio show
up here. I haven't rebooted it
for this summer. Called Cohog
Wild. We have a country station
called Cohog Country, and the
Cohog is a Nantucket clam. It's
a very large clam. Yeah.
So, and Country Music's big up
here. Really, that is an amazing
thing. Yeah, yeah. But hey,
speaking back to the doing good
deeds and karma stuff, we're
very excited about you know the
Unitarian Church here has hosted
the the reading of the
Declaration of Independence for
the last 27 years at 9 a.m.
Everybody goes to the UU Church,
gets in the pews, and they read
the Declaration, which folks
actually only takes like 11
minutes, honest, from start to
finish. So if you're thinking of
avoiding it, don't, because it's
only 11 minutes. Anyway, the UU
decided not to do it this year
because the country's too
divisive. I'm like that is the
most retarded statement I've
ever heard, honestly. Because
talk about being divisive, not
reading the Declaration of
Independence on the 250th
anniversary of our birth. I
mean, so my church, St. Paul's
Episcopal, said we'll take it.
So we'll be there tomorrow at
nine a.m. If anyone's around
Nantucket and listening to the
show or watching the show, come
on out. They may miss. We may
not be up by then, but anyway,
it's it's a great thing. We're
going to do it every year. But
the neat thing about St. Paul's,
I met Father Max Wolf, who's the
pastor there. And by the way,
Episcopals have priests and
nuns. The difference is with the
Catholic Church, Episcopal
priests and nuns can get married
and have kids. It's uh, it's
kind of like Catholic light.
Wow!
So Father Max is one of my best
friends, and I noticed. So we do
an 8:00 a.m. outdoor service and
then a 9:30 indoors. I love the
outdoor service. It's in a
memorial garden. It's gorgeous,
and I go at 6:30 every morning
on Sundays, and I set it up. I
bring 75 chairs from out inside
out, and set it up in this
beautiful pastoral setting. But
what I noticed was a couple
years ago that the kids, if if
kids come to church, they've got
a. Headsets for tablets-they're
not paying attention at all. So
I notice the kids come to church
and are somewhat paying
attention on St. Francis Day
when the blessing of the
animals. So I talked Father Max
into making the early service
outdoors pet friendly, and the
nice article in the paper: we
double the attendance at church
on Sundays at eight a.m. because
people are bringing dogs and
cats, and a little kid can pet a
dog or a cat. You know what?
Probably won't hear the whole
sermon, but maybe he'll hear 20%
of it, which is more more than
having on headsets and stuff. So
that's my youth outreach I'm
doing up here, basically. Adam's
still doing great work, no
matter where he's at.
We're trying. We're trying,
but we couldn't stop the
scooters. Man, you
know, and and the worst part.
Well, the worst part is they're
dangerous. But the worst part
for Nashville is these companies
aren't even from Nashville that
own them and rent them out. They
pay $30 a year fee to Metro to
have a scooter here per scooter
license. Every time somebody
falls and gets hurt on one,
they're they're taken ER'd to
our hospital ER triage there,
and then they fly back home to
whatever town they're from to
have their surgery. So it's
probably cost us as taxpayers
1000s of dollars per triage run,
and then no money stays in
Nashville or or gets spent in
Nashville at all. So from a
business standpoint alone,
that's a bad idea.
Insanity. I
mean, that's like putting a data
center next to a zoo. It's just
dumb.
Yeah. What do you think of
Freddie O'Connell and and his?
So I used to be a guest on his
show, and he and Mary Mancini
had something called Liber
Radio, liberal radio show, and I
was the token conservative right
wing guest that would come on
there and fight with him, and so
we developed a friendship
through that. I don't care for
his politics at all. Yeah, he's
a nice enough guy, you know, but
but he's just he's wrong, and
he's not a businessman. And I
honestly think you have to be a
business leader to be a mayor or
a governor. I think to be
president, you have to have
served in the military and/or be
a grandfather personally. That's
me. You know, I
actually have an opportunity to
interview him on my podcast.
Really?
Yeah. You think I should?
What happened?
I'm just. Oh no, he's he might
be coming on. I mean, we're
still kind of working it out.
Oh, that would happen. Give him
a kiss
for me. I'll
let him know. But you're right.
He's not a businessman,
especially with all the. You
know, it's like 350 percent
increases in property taxes on
these businesses. It's like
either you're that dumb, yeah,
or it's you're you're just
trying to drive these businesses
out. I mean that's the only
other reason I can think that.
Johnny B is probably aware of
this, but when I was a city
councilman, I built the first
music stage in the airport to
immerse people in music when
they got here, and that was 2003
when I had my stroke, and they
waited for me to get out of the
hospital. And big and rich and
Mayor Purcell, we christened it
in the bag claim, and now we
have over 30 stages. People are
coming to Nashville to spend
money because of music and
because of Lower Broadway, to be
honest with you, and putting
these people out of business.
Case in point, Layla's. I don't
know if you know Layla's Honky
Tonk. It's the only woman-owned
honky tonk next to Jack's
Barbecue,
yeah,
it's one story. They have a
little balcony, you know, up
there, but they have no roof
bar, no nothing. Her taxes went
from 30,000 to $117,000
Good in one year.
Good, yeah, and
and again, she's a single woman
owned business. She can't afford
it. They're driving her out. The
problem is they're basing this
on on real estate comps on
prices. Jack Coffin sold Jack's
Barbecue, the the budding bling,
for $15 million So everybody in
the neighborhood's taxes went
up. Anytime something sells
there for millions and millions,
everybody else takes the hit.
Oh yeah. Well, it's happening in
our neighborhoods. I think
the, but I think the answer is
is to do some sort of a special
zoning, an entertainment,
historic quasi entertainment
historical zoning. For example,
that's going to hurt Zany's in
the eighth room in that whole
area on Eighth Avenue South as
well. Zanies, we've been there
for over 40 years. I'm I'm their
general counsel since I got out
of law school and started there
as a comic, believe it or not,
but I mean their taxes through
the roof. The eighth room, we
lost we lost Douglas Corner
because of COVID and the taxes.
They couldn't afford to stay
open, so we're driving away the
things that are bringing people
to Nashville to spend money.
Yeah, and you're giving the 12th
Avenue businesses are also
taking it in the teeth.
Oh yeah, oh yeah, and gosh, and
I, you know, so speaking of
Eighth Avenue, Mayor, was it was
it Megan that wanted to put bike
lanes on Eighth Avenue? Yes,
take out a lane of traffic, and
and so they hired me to stop
that, and it was grown. Guitars
and stuff, and think about this:
bike lanes, bike lanes. First of
all, you're going to
inconvenience 10s of 1000s of
cars for 10s of bicycles.
Literally, 10s of bicycles. 200
days a year in Nashville, the
temperature is over 83 degrees
or under 35 degrees, which means
those are days you're not going
to be on a bicycle, but let me
riddle me this. Let's say you
have a bank, and one of your
tellers wants to ride a bike to
work and be nice and green and
everything. Okay, they come in
and they're going to be with
people. So on an 85 degree day,
when they come in, do you now
have to provide a shower for
those employees? And while
they're showering, is that on
your time or their time?
Good point. Yeah, no
bikes. Period. Yeah. Get on a
bus, Nantucket. What we do now
is our busses are free. They're
just free, and we we get grants
from the state, and it's called
the Wave, and they go
everywhere, and you can call one
if you can't get to one, or
you're handicapped, and that's
free. And it's make all the
busses free. Yeah, it's it's
it's the feds will pay for it.
Well, see that see that's why we
need you. We need dread more
than more than ever, man.
Well, I I appreciate that, and I
did my time. And again, I I
really think one of our big
problems is no term limits in
Congress or government period. I
call it community tithing when I
did my two terms. I did my
ideas. I you know I made all cab
drivers speak English. I still
can't get a cab by the way,
Nashville, as you guys know. But
I wrote a law saying all cab
drivers must speak English. It
was basically the taxi passenger
bill of rights. Yeah, and the
reason I did that was when I had
a stroke, I couldn't drive for
six months, so I was forced to
take taxis. I didn't realize 70%
of the cab drivers were Somali,
and the reason is they got here
as refugees. They didn't need
citizenship. They all speak
perfect English, but they're
rude and they don't like
Americans, and they pretended
they didn't speak English to
take people on longer routes. So
I passed that law, and then also
that the passenger controls the
music or no music, heat and air,
and also the route. And it's
posted was posted in everyone.
So when they see my number when
I call yellow cab, they won't
even answer.
Wow! I wonder why. Yeah. You
talked about God
for Uber.
Well, you talked about your
stroke, and I would love for
because you know I I remember
when that happened. Can you kind
of tell folks what like what
happened that day and how it all
transpired?
You got it. So on it happened on
May 30th, 2003. May 29th, I had
a headache, and I'm not the kind
of guy that gets headaches. I
just never really did. But I had
it was in the back of my neck,
and it felt like it was like
going up my neck. So I went to
CVS, bought aspirin, went home,
went to bed. Didn't really hurt
that much. The next day, I go to
Green Hills Post Office, pick up
my mail. It's and I feel kind of
hot, so I get my Jeep Cherokee,
crank up the AC, and I'm sitting
there on Hillsboro Road.
Basically, next thing you know,
I'm out cold, and I drove four
miles Franklin Road, drove no
recollection, four miles off a
cliff through a slave-built wall
into a tree, tearing down the
walls of slavery, but and was
found non-responsive. I coded.
They brought me back. I coded
again in the ambulance, and woke
up 12 hours later with Reverend
Enoch Fuzz laying hands on me.
Actually, when I popped out of
my coma, wow! And he said my
first words were, "Please tell
me I didn't hurt anybody,
because I knew it. I'd been
driving.
Yeah.
But I won't say the name of the
news channels. Channel Four. Oh,
drinking or alcohol involved?
Nancy Amos? No, Nancy Amos. This
happened at noon on a Friday.
You know I don't start drinking
till two.
So anyway,
but I mean they did. There's a
full blood and alcohol. My
firefighter buddy's like, we
have to do this. And by the way,
there's nothing in your system,
but we just want to verify it
for all of them. I mean, the
attack piece is on me. I was
running for office at the time.
Bread crash hoax, bread
publicity stunt to get elected.
Oh, I mean, the vicious fancy
came out. Meanwhile, you guys
have a prayer circle on 997 WTN.
We do seriously. You guys had
prayer groups going out and it
worked.
Well, in fact, we we were on
WLAC at that time. Actually,
that's right. Yeah, Phil Phil
and I had got because I'd gotten
the word from I think yeah it
was it was my wife at the time.
She was a nurse at Vanderbilt,
and we got she called me and let
me know, and so Phil and I went
on the air and asked for a
citywide prayer, and that was my
first work,
brother. Oh, it did work
because my when I went home that
night, she goes, "It doesn't
look good, and I'm I'm beside
myself. And the next day, she
went into work and she called me
and she said, "You're not going
to believe." But Adam is sitting
up and he's talking to people. I
said, "Can he take a call? And
she said, "Oh yeah, I called you
up, and man, you're telling me
jokes. And I said, "I can't
believe this, man. Only Adam.
You know, my my line about that,
since I had another one last,
you know, last July, a brain
bleed, but I'll tell you about
that. Was you know God still has
more work for me to do, and the
devil still scared of me, and
because it breaks my seriously,
it breaks my heart. All these
really good people die all the
time. It's like wait, I'm still
here, and it's like I'm here for
tribulation, aren't I? I'm going
to be here for the tribulation.
So I think that's that's
probably the plan. Yeah. But so
you know they said I had the
lupus coagulant gene, which
meant my blood. If you have
lupus, it causes your blood to
thicken. I don't have lupus, but
they said I had the marker for
the gene, so I went on coumadin
for 22 years of coumadin, rat
poison. Every month, I'd go into
Vanderbilt Hospital, get a blood
draw, see what my level was, my
INR, and so I couldn't have
lettuce or broccoli or spinach.
All I could have was pizza and
beer. You know, no. But but fast
forward, I felt going to court
last May. I was walking across
the street, James Robertson
Parkway, and a heel fell off my
loafer, and I did a banana peel
split. I didn't know my heel
was. I got up and I did it
again. I ripped my my hamstrings
really badly, so went to
Vanderbilt Hospital and was
there for five days. It hurt so
bad I had no idea I'd hit my
head. So fast forward July 22nd,
I had a little teeny crack there
that I didn't know about. We
never checked for because I said
I didn't hit my head, and I've
got a brain bleed, and they
found me non-responsive and
life-flighted me to Brigham and
Women's in Boston. When I got
there, they said, "Why are you
taking cuminin? You don't have
the lupus coagulant gene. I'm
like, "Wait, wait, what? I've
been taking this for 22 years.
I've gone to the hospital every
month for 22 years to get
checked, and they're like, "Oh,
you got to sue, blah blah blah.
And I said, "You know what?
First of all, doctors are humans
and they make mistakes. I'm
alive. That's all I care about.
But I did further research, and
genetic markers can change. So I
believe at the time I did have
that marker. I tested positive
for it, and now it's it's gone,
and I could say that personally
because if I go get a blood draw
right now, I will test positive
for Lyme's disease. I don't have
it right now active, but I've
had it in the past, and it's
always going to be in my system,
in some level, and then but it
could go away eventually. It's
very strange because I went in
for something else years ago,
and they said you got Lyme
disease as well as what you know
dehydration, sunstroke, and and
that wild how those things can
markers can change and go on
you. Yeah.
Well, your aller your allergies
change every seven years. Oh
yeah. Allergies change, and I
used to be immune to bee stings.
Not anymore. Not anymore. I used
to pick them up, and I was stung
all the time and build up an
immunity. Now my arm swells up
like a deer tick.
So yeah, well that happened to
me too. Yellow jacket stung me a
couple years ago, man. And I
used to I would get stung by
them and nothing. Boy, my hand
got as big as a catcher's mitt.
I mean, same thing,
man. Those are, man. If one
animal, if you can just kill,
rid the world of one animal,
that would be it. Not sharks,
yellow jackets, yellow jackets
and mice. Oh yeah. Hey, by the
way, couple a couple things on
the deer tick thing. We now have
this new longhorn tick, a lone
star tick. I'm not sure if
you've heard about it. I have
one that makes you allergic to
meat. Yeah, there's a new one
out there, guys. Watch out for
it. It's a fast little tick.
It's not in Tennessee yet, but
it's on the way. Google that
when you get a few minutes.
They're brutal out here.
Speaking of, so it is shark
season, and my beach up here. I
have two summers ago. I had 16
white sharks that lived off that
beach that we we would ping, you
know, with a tracker.
Yeah.
And you know what? Peter
Benchley said once. I thought
that he wished he never wrote
Jaws because more sharks were
killed because of that book,
Jaws. And a great white has it's
almost has never eaten a human
unless they found a dead
decomposing human. Great white
sharks eat seals. That's all
they want. Big blubbery seals.
The only time a human gets hit,
great whites hunt up. So they're
looking up. If they see a guy in
a wetsuit on a boogie board with
flippers, and they see a seal,
and they go and they hit it and
they bite you, and then they let
you go because you're not a
seal. Now you're still gonna die
because that bite, but they're
not gonna eat you. Yeah, has
nothing to do. Is that only
the great white species?
That the great what the great
the only shark to really be
scared of. Well, two really, and
and I I work with O search. C E
A R C H. If you want to look
them up, we tag great whites and
stuff, and they're amazing
people. The the bull shark is is
the one to really be scared of
because it's territorial. So if
you go into its territory, it's
going to hit you. Tiger sharks,
they're just kind of strange.
You just don't know what they're
going to do. They're not going
to stop and keep eating you.
None of them are. But
hammerheads are bad too. So I
had a hammerhead two summers
ago. A hammerhead hit a striped
bass right right off of Fat
Lady's Beach. I swear to God,
that's its name, Fat Lady. Fat
Lady's, and people are screaming
and stuff, and it bit it in
half. So I just walked out in
the water and I grabbed the
other half of the striper and
pulled it out because, like, you
don't want blood in the water,
you can attract more sharks.
Hammerheads rarely, rarely
attack anything except
crustaceans. Their their heads
are actually shaped so they can
look for crabs and stuff down on
the bottom, kind of like a nurse
shark,
scavengers.
I'm an amateur ichthyologist, if
you can't tell.
Because I mean, the reason why I
ask is that there? There was
like an attack maybe a week ago
off Florida. No, I can't
remember what kind of shark it
was. But the guy, you know, the
the shark went after him and and
pulled him down. And it would
have been
a tug, probably a tug or a bull.
Yeah. Now you do hear about a
lot about like New Smyrna Beach
and all people getting bit. And
what's happened there is
tourists have fished the waters
out. There is nothing for baby
sharks to eat, so they see an
ankle or something. They they
hit anything moving. They don't
care. They're not trying to eat
you. They're just hungry for
Christ's sakes, and and that's
the salt. That's the fault of
the commercial sport fishing
industry down there. They've
fished out the water.
Yeah. Well, you know, Adam
coming for me.
Adam, you you mentioned you know
Jaws, you know, and of course
the story of that movie, you
know they, you know, closing
down the beach on the Fourth of
July, you know, and they're
yeah, there's Freddie O'Connell
that did that, but you know, but
he taxed the he double taxed the
shark, you know,
as we record this, I mean, it's
july 3. As we record this, and
there is an air, there's a beach
up in the northeast that is
going to be closed for july 4
because of bull sharks. And
yeah,
that's
not us, but yeah,
yeah, we we
we yeah we shut down for a finn
sighting. The lifeguards will
blow the whistle, and you've got
a two-hour shutdown just to make
sure you know it's not a bull
shark, or you know. But normally
they're not, and normally when
people think they see sharks are
actually sunfish. They have
these big dorsal fins that come
out of the water. They're big,
giant, fat fish, but it's not
even a shark. I got to say, I
was actually
on Martha's Vineyard during
Fourth of July one year. Oh wow!
That's where they film jaws.
Yes.
Wow. That is where they filmed
jaws. Were there at the Obamas'
house or the Clintons? Neither.
Yeah, I wasn't. I wasn't that
famous at that point. Some
things never change.
So we call Martha's Vineyard the
other island. So you got you got
Massachusetts, Cape Cod, then
you have okay, but is the
other island? Do you look down
on Martha's Vineyard, or do they
look up to you? Yeah, we do. We
look at it. We look at it like
Nashville looks on Memphica. It
is. It's day trippers. There's
no zoning laws. It's very very
rich Hamptons kind of people. So
and it's only five five miles
off offshore. We're 30 miles out
at sea. It's a commitment to
come out here.
The
people that come out and stay on
Nantucket are the Friss, the
Alexanders, Fred Thompson, the
Corkers. It's this is Republican
country, Vineyards Democrats,
James Taylor. That crowd. So it
really is. They're not. It's
almost like Memphis and
Knoxville. The difference
between Martha's Vineyard and
Nantucket. So you guys are more
kid
rock, Ted Nugent.
Oh yeah, we're we're more kid
rock. But you know, Kenny
Chesney's been up here a couple
times actually. But yeah, but
the thing is here. It's like
Nashville, like old Nashville,
where where people don't bother
celebrities and paparazzi, and
and they just kind of fit into
the thing. I mean, just into the
whole groove of it. I mean, I
was out, you know, with Ben
Stiller. You know, but I don't
know if you saw that picture. I
did. His parents lived here.
Jerry Stiller lived lived here.
mr. Rogers lived here. Oh, mr.
Rogers is a member of my church
of St. Paul's. It was his summer
church, but what people don't
realize is mr. Rogers was a
Methodist minister.
Yeah, yeah.
And we do the Fred Rogers Award
every year for the best citizen
for the kindest citizen. Haven't
gotten that yet. I got Volunteer
of the Year 2022 by the chamber,
but which ties into something
else. If people are around, we
do something I'd love to see in
Nashville. We do something
called the Nantucket Clean Team,
where myself and a group, armed
with grabbers and bags, and we
hit a different beach or roadway
every Saturday from eight to
nine and just clean it up. And
it's amazing the amount of trash
that's not really intentionally
tossed. It's stuff. Blows out of
people's trucks and cars, yeah,
and that's something I, you
know, landscaping trucks
especially, just kind of people
be on the alert about that
because you know it's neat
seeing little kids do it because
people honk and say thank you
when they're driving by on the
roads and seeing the little kids
just light up when that happens
may leave may leave the world a
little better for everybody.
Well, see the whole difference
between Nantucket and Nashville
is that up there you're getting
you know paper bags flying out
and everything. Here it's
ladders, things like that you
find in the interstate. Yeah,
aliens. Yeah, I'm saying
undocumented.
And well, we do have we do have
a park here where we actually
won't clean the state park, and
it is state property because
there's a group of homeless
junkies that live out there, and
there's needles thrown on the
ground. And I won't let any of
my team out there. I'll blame
it. What I did clean up was
these damn vineyard winds. You
know these wind farms, this
whole green wind farm. Oh yeah,
don't restart. I'm sorry, BS.
Those things. All right. First
of all, the amount of energy
they take to construct a one of
those big wind blade wind farm
pieces-they only last for 20
years. Yeah. And when they die,
they die. They break off and
fall in the water. And it's not
the responsibility of the
company that owns it to clean it
up. It's ours, and we had one
break, and start, and the and
they didn't let us know either.
I could have had boats out there
with nets. We could have cleaned
it up fast. It was about 15
miles out, and again, I got an
army ready to go on boats to
clean up any mess that happens
up here. They didn't tell us
until it started washing up on
the beaches, and these are
broken pieces of fiberglass,
naugahyde, whatever. I stepped
on one man, cut me bad. It's
sharper than glass. It's
breaking up and getting into
fish and and other crustaceans
and mollusks. We shut down our
beaches. We shut down our
beaches not because of sharks,
but because of a broken wind
farm blade. And my buddies have
a surf shop out on the beach and
surf lessons. Couldn't do it.
Beaches were all shut down. It
cost us millions of dollars on
this island.
Oh my God! Have you
seen that scene from Landman?
Yes, Billy Bob. Yeah, he
educates that lawyer. Yeah, like
a seven-minute you know monolog
about you know how bad wind the
the actual wind. It's
ridiculous. It's
it's it's almost like battery
powered cars. Well, they kill
birds.
I mean, the number of birds it
kills.
Oh, birds, fish, whales. Those
things vibrate, and they've got
huge engines underneath filled
with oil. By the way, they don't
tell you that word. No,
they don't. That leaks
out. Yeah. Speaking of that, but
in Nashville, the whole thing
with data centers ties into
this, you know. And again, I
wouldn't call myself a huge
environmentalist, but I do my
part. You know, I'm I'm a gas
car guy. You know, I'm I'm you
know. Anyway, my problem with
data data centers is the amount
of water they take to cool them.
Not only does it the amount it's
like 5 million gallons a day for
a data center. Not only does it
take that much water, it burns
up about half of it. It's
literally evaporated, but a good
chunk of it is contaminated, and
just rolls under into the water
table underneath. So if you use
well water or you have an
aquifer. That water is coming
back up, contaminated. Putting
one of those next to the zoo
might be the dumbest idea I've
ever heard. Well, that's
the thing: is that even Pamela
Fur, our friend, she pointed out
the the rub is the fact that the
the the people who own the data
center are saying, well, hey,
we've got all the permits and
basically flipping everybody
off. And now Freddie's coming in
and saying, well, that's okay.
I'm just going to claim eminent
domain. And you know, it's like,
well, okay, now this is a head
scratcher. Yeah, you know what I
mean. Yeah,
who do you back on this
one? Well, actually, here's the
problem. There, definition of
eminent domain is the government
seizing of private property for
public use.
Right,
unless it's turned into a park
or given to the zoo that all the
public has free access to, you
can't just take something like
that. The permit side too is
kind of interesting in in that
how was that pre permitted
before the owners could apply
for it because it's still owned
by that property has not sold
yet. The original owners still
own it. The data center people
people do not own the property
yet. So in eminent domain
eminent eminent domain, he would
have to pay the people that
currently own it. I don't know
what their side deal is with
Blocks BLOXX, the company
building the data centers, but
my suggestion would be this:
Freddy, find a big piece of land
way the hell away from
everybody, and we've got plenty
of land in Davidson County.
Oh yeah,
and trade swap it. Just do a
straight land swap, and pay them
for that land. But you know. The
the other problem is going to be
not just the lawsuit for the
price of the land, but the
detrimental reliance. That's a
little legal term of the blocks
company put all this money into
surveying and whatever else they
did to get ready to build the
data center. They're going to
sue for that money back from
Nashville, and that's going to
be a big penny.
Oh yeah,
because they were given some
permits, so they did rely
detrimentally to them on the
fact that they were going to be
able to build there. So this is
this whole thing was just
screwed up by Nashville, just
beyond belief.
Why is? And I'm
glad I'm not in government.
Well, Nashville has always been
really. I don't know what's
wrong with Nashville government,
but it it just seems like it is
poorly run, right? And has been
for a long time.
I'll tell you what. In in my my
years there, and I was a
councilman 2002 through 2007
because of a split term with uh
with uh the Ronnie Stein debacle
and Howard I filled Howard
Gentry's seat on the council.
What I have found is the person
who took the best care of Metro
employees out of all the mayors
we've had was Megan Barry. No,
don't do the joke. I know what
you're thinking, but honestly,
the police, the fire department,
the police, any any you know
codes, especially the police,
care the the workers prepare the
workers. Yeah. Now the guy
involved in that was a friend is
is a friend of mine, and so is
Megan. I talked Megan out of
running against me when I won in
2002 because she would have
beaten me, and I said I'll back
it later on down the line. Yo,
what is what she did is nothing
no other mayor has not done.
Every single mayor has had a
concert tube bond in the history
of Nashville. She happened to be
a female. She happened to miss
spend some funds on this guy
that the other guys didn't get
caught spending on their
mistresses, right? And she paid
her. She did her. You know, she
did her time.
Yeah.
You know, I don't agree with her
politically, but she is a dear,
dear friend of mine, and I'd do
anything for her except probably
vote for. But, but you know, and
honestly, here's another reason
she gets a pass. I actually hope
she's not watching this. But
anybody in this life, if you're
if you lose a kid, if you're a
parent and you lose a kid, you
get a hall pass from me for life
because there's nothing that
changes, and I can't can't even
imagine the heartbreak that
woman has every day. So, you
know, people want to. I've I've
made jokes about her, but she's
a good woman, and you know she
she does what she thinks is
right, and she did take care of
the metro employees, and I'll
always applaud her for that.
Oh, you're not kidding! And I
also, when when she lost her
son, I I even sent her, which I
I don't even know if she read it
or not, but I sent her a note of
condolence, and yeah, I felt for
on that one. If you lose a
child, man, it's that's you know
it happens to everybody. Kids
aren't supposed to go. They're
not, but it does happen, and it
happens more than it should. But
yeah, that was awful.
Yeah, yeah. So, gosh, but it it
is yeah, it is wild. It's just
wild, wild world we're in, guys.
Yes, it is. So
that's why you're wilder.
I wrote some notes down actually
for you guys.
Well, go ahead. What do you
think I want
to tell you guys about? I had
something kind of important. No,
I guess it wasn't that
important, mr. Rogers. Oh,
here's the problems. Here's
Nashville, and again, I hate to
sound so old. I'm only 743, but
man, don't you miss Phasins and
the Trace, oh yeah, places like
that. Hillsboro Pancake Pantry
is everything's changed hands.
It's it's just Hillsboro Village
is now. I'm having trouble
because it's gotten dangerous at
night. We have a new element
there that are not the people
going to the bars, but people
hanging out in the streets that
can't get into these new bars,
drinking in their cars, smoking,
just being on people's
buildings. Hillsboro Village,
ladies and gentlemen,
unbelievable. Who
would have thought it? Because
that, if Randy Rayburn were
still here, that would not be
going. That would not happen.
And I miss Maud's courtyard.
What stuff like that? yeah.
Hey, you can still get Mods. You
can still get Mods Chicken at
Sperry's.
Oh, really?
They do Mods Chicken at
Sperry's, Bellmead, and Cool
Springs. Oh, by the way, so
Sperry's, Sperry's was the
original salad bar of Nashville,
and they still have a salad bar.
They were the first ones, 1974,
to have Green Goddess dressing.
You know what that means? They
are now on their second bottle
of Green Goddess. No, it's made
fresh daily. And what brought
Sam's family? They're all
they're all related. What
brought you to
Nashville? Because I know you
you were originally from
Pennsylvania. Did you? Was it
Vanderbilt going to Vanderbilt?
Vanderbilt brought me to
Nashville, and I'm I'm a damn
Yankee. I stayed.
Yeah, you did. I
just loved it. Well, I'm glad
you
did, because yeah, I mean, yeah,
that that's the thing I love
about Nashville, and I think
we're losing it, is that we we
have we've had so many great,
colorful characters like you,
you know, John. Hooker. I mean,
you name off all kinds of people
that that you wouldn't find them
in any other town. This town's
unique. We
did we did take care of our own
crazies. We definitely did.
Yeah, we did. But now we've got.
I I loved your thing on bad
Californians. Have I got a story
for you?
All right.
A woman from California brought
her what she told the hostess
service dog with her into a
restaurant, and a waitress walks
up. She goes, "Oh, he's sweet.
You can pet him. The waitress
reached down, dog bit her in the
face.
Oh my gosh! First,
first of all, she's she's
Californian. Second of all, you
can't pet a service dog by law,
by definition of service dog.
Strangers are not too pet. A
service dog is there for sight
or hearing or you know PTSD, but
they are not to be pet. Now an
emotional support dog that is
not a service dog. So this
woman, we got her name and
address and stuff, and the the
young waitress went and she had
she had stitches and she went to
the hospital, and she missed
work. So I, I called her, and I,
I, I reached first. I sent her
demand letter, basically, it's a
legal thing, saying, "Here's the
bills. We're not trying to break
you over the coals, but this
girl lost some money. She's
paying student loans, you know,
and this is what it costs. So
they didn't respond, so I called
her, and and she's like, "Well,
our house is being renovated
right now, so I didn't get the
letter. I said, "Well, ma'am,
here's what happened. She goes,
"Oh yeah, well, she shouldn't
have pet the dog. And I said,
"Well, ma'am, you should have
brought that dog into a
restaurant. So she goes, "Well,
in California, oh,
I could bring my
dog in. She actually said that,
"Well, in California, it was
almost like you're not my real
father. No, it was like a step
kid thing. I was like, well,
ma'am, you're not in California,
and can you? And she goes, well,
my lawyer said just sue us. I
go, okay. So I served her. I
went and filed in court, served
her certified mail. They didn't
pick it up. I called her. I
said, "Ma'am, well, we're not.
Our house is being renovated in
Belmead. We're not staying
there. Okay. Well, where can I
serve you? So she knew she was
being sued. She hung up on me.
So I go, "Okay. Now, if you
can't serve somebody by
publication or personal service
in Tennessee, you can serve
somebody what's called
publication, meaning I can put
it in the Tennessee Inn or the
Ledger for three days, and the
the thought is you have served
them if they're not going to be
served, and they have public
notice that they are being sued.
Yeah.
So anyway, yeah. So of course
she didn't show up to court, and
then meet and I got my judgment
for a lot more money than I
would have charged her just to
pay the hospital bills, because
of her attitude and and it cost
you know an attorney, doctors
missed work even more, so she
literally that day goes and
files a set aside. So she knew
about it clearly. She no, I
wasn't notified. We went to
court, and the judge just
literally did one of these.
Like, ma'am, you knew you were
going to be you're being sued,
right? Oh yeah, I knew, but they
didn't serve me properly. Goes,
well, you know, you should have
appealed it, and oh look, you
missed the 10 days. She follows
me. She follows me out of the
courtroom, going, we're on
social security. Can we set up a
payment plan? You just sold your
billion-dollar house in San
Diego to move to a ranch in
Belmead for probably a 10th of
the cost of your house, and you
now want a payment plan. You
want a favor for me because you
brought your dog in and bit this
poor girl, and then you wouldn't
come to court. That's California
in Nashville right now.
Boy, you're not kidding.
They should not be allowed to. I
really I hate it violates the
Constitution, but I really think
you should not be allowed to
vote in a new city until you've
lived there for five years.
I agree. If
you move,
I agree.
Yeah,
I would agree with that.
But
I also have to thank you too
because you you came to my
rescue when I I won't I won't
say what where I was working,
but I have a horrible allergy to
animal dander, and this place of
employment was letting people
bring their pets in, especially
on bring weasels,
raccoons, weasel, all kinds of
crap. Everything
was like bring your dog to work
day, and it put me basically put
me in the hospital. You were,
yeah, man. You got really sick.
I
got really sick, and they
wouldn't take it seriously, so I
had to get you involved. And I
appreciate that because you you
really helped me out because I
thought
the Hebrew hammer.
And I love animals, but I think
people are getting a little
crazy with, you know, like like
the emotionally support animal.
I mean, come on. Yeah,
no, no, and you know, and those
certificates you can buy online,
or they don't work, and they
don't have to honor them
anymore. So be forewarned if
you're going to the airport.
Just be prepared to pay for it.
They'll let you bring a dog or
cat on, but not a python or
chicken, and you know it's it's
just ridiculous. Oh,
it is.
And honestly, a lot of people do
have, and it's really funny when
people say they're allergic to
cats. I always say, get a cat
because you actually will build
up an immunity to the cat.
Yeah.
Now dander's different. All
animals dander. That's from
somebody who's just not cleaned,
and the dander's coming off. It
could be from a human too, man.
Yeah, that's true. Yeah,
that's me. I'm allergic to the
dander.
That's it, dander. Hell, I
married her. Tanya Tucker, no,
but you can tis her anyway. So
speaking of that, you know, I
was the lawyer on that poison
pet food case from China. That's
kind of carbon bread.
Well, in fact, Phil Valentine's
six. Yeah, Phil Valentine
claimed that that China cat food
killed his cat. It it
did. Yeah. What they did was
they put plastic to save money.
Menu foods in China use plastic
instead of food, and it would
not. It wouldn't. It killed
smaller animals, and bigger,
bigger animals could digest it.
And and that is now why I have
two cats because I met more
people. Honestly, a lot of them
widows or widowers, and that
cat, they have a six cents. They
were almost like they were, you
know, spouse at that point, and
that was a human to them. And
when that greedy company saving
four cents a pound on food
killed all these, I was I went
for blood. We had over 100
plaintiffs. Blair and I didn't
keep a penny of that, by the
way. We it actually cost us
money to sue those folks. We're
like, no, all the money is going
to these people, we can make
money other ways. And by the
way, Blair Durham. Hey, Bart
Durham, by the way, who we lost
last year. Oh yeah. People don't
realize this about Bart, and
they kid about his commercials.
Bart Durham won the Supreme
Court case that first allowed
lawyers to advertise on
television. Bart Durham is the
reason lawyers advertise on
television. And you know what?
Great damn lawyer, I'm not
kidding. Yeah, you know, you if
you went if you still if you go
to his son Blair, you're gonna
get more money than you'd get
probably with any other lawyer
or by yourself. So there's a
method to the madness there. But
again, people talk about them
because of something kind of
goofy. The commercials were kind
of funny. Oh yeah, and and but
good lawyers, and we miss you,
Bart. That's another great one
we lost.
Oh, you're not kidding.
Just
in fact, my dad, when my dad
first moved to town, and you
know his radio station. I think
Bart Durham was one of the first
clients that he had as far as a
sponsor. Yeah.
Oh yeah, man. It's he's they're
good at what they do, and you
know there's now. Let me tell
you this though: when you see
all these advertisers for law
firms saying we don't get paid
unless you get paid, that's
true. But they're not going to
take your case unless both sides
have insurance. Number one, and
they feel they have a 90% chance
of winning. So, yeah, you're
going to get paid because they
are going to get paid. But if
they don't think they're going
to, you're going to get paid.
They're not taking your case,
and they don't have to.
Yeah,
you know the same thing with Med
Mau. I get I've never taken a
Med Mau case, but people will
call all the time, and I'll
listen to them. But when you
break it down, it's not about
the medicine. It's it's it's you
know, when you break it down,
they'll go. He was rude to my
grandmother. That's why they
want to sue in a bedside manner.
Yeah,
that's like with my with my law
practice. I return every call
within four to eight hours max.
People that you know, doctors
that don't respond, lawyers
don't return calls in 24 hours.
They're they're the ones getting
sued for malpractice.
Yeah,
nothing to do with the medicine.
Medicine is not an exact
science.
No. There's
my other tip for teams today.
Adam Dred's tips. Hey, I stole
tip for teams from. I stole that
from Web Wilder. You know, my
favorite Web Wilder and the
Beatniks. Oh, I remember that
Wilder
bucket list. Track 17. Web
Wilder came from Nashville,
1985. His Adam Dred intro on
iTunes. It's just me at the exit
in introduce him. They put me on
their record, and I was like,
now I can die. But always liked
his line.
Always liked his line on stage
too. When he would he would say,
"Here's a song we wrote. He
said, "But the good lyric fairy
didn't visit me and Bobby on
this one.
Bobby, heck yeah! I I always
thought if God was really a rock
and roll God, the biggest rock
stars in the world, top three,
would be wet would be Warren
Zevon, John Hyatt, and Webb
Wilder.
Oh yeah, definitely.
I was called I called Warren
Zevon the dark Jimmy Buffett.
He was. You're right. That's.
I've never heard that before. I
mean,
cheeseburger in paradise is
basically rolling the headless
Thompson gunner. But yeah, the
dark side.
Hey, did you ever? Did you ever
have any dealings with Steve
Earle?
I did. He's. Not a fan. Oh, is
he not a fan of Adam Brad? So my
buddy John Dotson managed them
years ago. Oh, he went to L.A.
to do some stuff, and Steve
disappeared on a little binge
for a few days. Oh, that's what
he was doing, honey.
Don't for the Beverly
Hillbillies soundtrack with Joe
Walsh.
I don't, I don't, I don't know
what he was doing, but I know
he's doing a lot of smack, and
he would. So anyway, I was on
the radio then, and John was
bummed. I mean, he's a friend of
mine. He's working hard. He
can't find his act. He's
managing.
Yeah.
And so I said something on the
air about. I said, I said, oh, I
does going, hey, pretty baby,
ready for me? It's a smooth
talking junkie back from cell
block B. They go, hey, Steve. I
go, Steve Earle's back shooting
up the charts. Oh
man!
But then he was this big
anti-death penalty guy, and I
forget I was at some event, and
he's you know, you know, and I'm
pro-death penalty. I mean, I'm
pro death penalty pretty much
for everyone. But so he. He was
not. Oh, that reminds me. This
is a great true story, guys.
Running for office, when you run
for council at large, there's
five spots, and there's there
were 20 of us running, and we go
to all these forums, all of us,
and the audience could ask any
question.
Yeah,
and sure enough, somebody stands
up and says, "What is your
stance on abortion? And all
these guys-it's me, Tandy Rice,
Howard Gentry, David Briley-all
looking around like like this
and that. And I go, I got this
one. And I stood up and I go,
ma'am, first of all, that's not
a city council issue. But since
you asked, I believe every
parent has the right to abort
any child till that child's 16
years old, because you because
you really don't know if you got
a dud till they're a teenager.
Here you go, son. Drink this
warm milk, Daddy. It smells like
almonds. Oh, another great
council story. So I was on the
city council, and they put up
that musica statue of naked men
and women. Yeah, which first of
all, it's it's private money. I
don't think it's appropriate for
that spot, but I had nothing. I
had no saying it. 7 a.m.
Saturday morning. I'm maybe a
little. I might have had a
little bit of the cocktail flu
that morning. This woman wakes
me up from from Donald's castman
dread. Castleman Dred, you gotta
take down that statue, them
naked people. I'm like, ma'am, I
got a conflict of interest. It's
a conflict of interest. I go,
yeah, I posed for it, and it was
and it was cold out. Might have
lost the vote. Don't care. Yeah,
that. So I had some fun on the
council too. I know. I passed
the law that I got the I got the
holiday tree renamed the
Christmas tree.
Thank you. Because
I go, guys, it's a Christmas
tree. It was me and Eric
Crafton. I go, we have a hot. We
have a menorah. You know, why
can't we have a Christmas tree?
Yeah. Oh, you know that's and
all of a sudden and I'm born
Jewish and I'm the bad guy here.
Yeah, guys,
go figure.
You know, yeah, yeah. That's
just kind of story of my life.
You know, stirring the pot.
Yeah, I'm circling the drain and
stirring. We may have. We may.
may, we already have a spinoff,
guys. Yes, we do. Jeffersons
from all of the family.
There you go, man. So when when
do you head back to Nashville?
So I'll be in and out, but I'll
I'll come back for football
season to Vanderbilt. Oh, we
have, you know, I'm in
Vandyville. If you guys remember
coming through those tailgate
tents?
Yeah,
there's 150 tents starting at
Wedgewood, coming up to the
stadium. I'm tents number one
and two. You'll see a sign
saying the Nantucket Nashville
Law Office of Adam Dred. Come by
any time. Be my guest. Open bar.
Some of your fans could come
too, because you're gonna have
to clear it with Johnny B. But
I'd be down for that. They they
would too.
They they they doubled the rates
to rent the tents because of
Pavia.
Yeah. Oh
man. I got that. Yeah, they got
a lot of woes in them now. Yeah.
And
Pavia's mom used Pavia's mom
used to come to ours. That was
fun. I got the call. I'm in
Nantucket when his brother got
arrested last year at the Vandy
game, do you remember that? And
they're like, "Can you come? You
know, take care of the kid. He's
public drunk and stuff. I go,
"Probably not, because he was he
was at my tailgate tent. A
little bit of a conflict of
interest, I think. But but no,
we weren't. We've been going.
It's me and all my class in
1985. We've all been tailgating
together since then, and we've
moved up from like 10 150 Now
we're tent number one and two.
Oh wow! Chronologically, it's
pretty big honor to be up there.
So come by and say hi, please.
Definitely.
Well, the Vanderbilt football
team now is something to be
fearful of. Heck yeah!
Who knew? Yeah. Who knew?
Well, and what really helped, I.
Think was the Nick Saban video.
I think that's what. I think
that's what. What. Oh yeah. It
gave him a little fire right
there. Put a little gasoline on
the fire. You
gotta love it. My only problem
with Vanderbilt on that, and I
don't know who to yell at, but
but Pavia should have had a
handler at the Heisman. Somebody
should have kept him from doing
what he did.
Yeah,
because that that killed his
career, in my opinion.
Yeah, I would agree. That's how
we learned the hard work.
Nobody. Yeah, that's right.
Nobody wants
a Pac-Man Jones on their roster.
Oh boy,
don't kill that.
Pac-Man Jones. I forgot about
Pac-Man. Me too.
Oh
God.
But you know, I mean, once he
left the Titans, other teams,
you know, the everybody kept
signing this guy.
Who knew?
Yeah,
it's it's a DEI hire, and the I
stands for idiocy. Oh man, he
was there. There was not a there
was not a there was not a strip
club that didn't know his name.
Oh my goodness! Do you know that
was the best gig I ever had in
my life? When I was doing
stand-up, I played. I got. I was
Father Guido Sarducci's opening
act, Don Novello. Yeah, remember
him from Saturday Night Live?
Yes, I am. The punch punchline
in Atlanta, and I was making as
an opener. I was making $150 a
day. Now this is 1988 89 That
was not bad money then, but not
great money. And these guys came
up to me after the show and
said, "Hey, would you like to do
a show at our club? They what
club? They said, "Well, it's
called the Cheetah Three in
Atlanta, and it's the top strip
club in the South. I go, "What
kind of show? And they said, "We
want you to host the Battle of
the Cheetah Girls, which is the
competition for the top stripper
in the South, 20-$5,000 prize,
and I did, and I tuxedo ran it
like Burt Parks. I mean, a
regular pageant with swimsuit
talent, everything, and and the
funniest part is so the five
finalists are up there. By that
point, they're all completely
naked, and I'm about to announce
the first runner-up. And I say,
before I announce first
runner-up, let me just say how
important this this position is.
Because let's say the winner's
in some sort of scandal, then
you'll be Miss Cheetah. And they
all looked they all looked at me
like manga lords in a magic
show. No idea what I should say.
Hey man, you were real good
friends with Ralphie May. What
can you tell us about Ralph?
That
bitch of a wife of his. That
movie is crap. It's a lot of
lies. Lana Turner's killed him.
His wife killed him literally
from the stress of that divorce.
Wow, the
stuff she did to that guy. I've
I have I've seen the texts. I I
know way too much about it. She
went to TMZ and literally said
that he he had sex with her in a
very inappropriate way, and
basically had taken advantage of
her. Okay, not only did that not
happen, I have the text from her
to him, telling him how much she
likes that position. Position,
yeah. And I mean, and he was six
states away at the time. She
said that happened.
Wow.
And and she put it on TMZ. The
stress that, of course, he was
way overweight. But the added
stress to that guy's heart with
that kind of stuff during a
money divorce thing, he was so
broke. He, somebody had to lend
him money to pay his taxes the
year he died because she had
spent all his money, and now her
spitting on his grave with this
BS movie. Don't see it because
it's all lies. Yeah, all lies.
And there will there will be a
lawsuit. Unfortunately, there's
nothing to get from her, and I
don't want to hurt her kids.
Frankly, those poor kids having
that gold digging witch. Really,
she married him because she
thought he was cute because she
loved him. No, it was about
money. Yeah, and wanting to be a
comedian. By the way, she's
banded almost every comedy club
in the country.
Really,
for performing. Yeah, Lana
Turner.
What? That's an
original name.
He seemed. He seemed. He seemed
like a good guy to me,
nicest nicest guy in the world.
He took care of everybody, and
gosh, and and again, I was so I
got a call from a reporter
during the the shoot, the sniper
shooting in Vegas. Yeah, and I
was actually about to head out
there to go stay with Ralphie
for a week the next week, and
he's like, Adam, do you have
anybody out there we can
interview it for a Nashville
perspective on the shooting at
the country show. I go, yeah,
let me call Ralphie, and I
called Ralphie, and I said, Hey,
Ralphie, he goes, Adam, I just
don't really feel good. I go,
man, what's what's going on?
Anything I can do? No, man. I
go, no, man, I'll be out there
tomorrow. Can I? What can we do?
What can we do to help you? He
goes, No, I just don't feel
right. And then next day,
wow, gosh, man, that's sad. And
that was when she opened fire on
him, and all the papers she
served him with. She went
through more money, I mean, and
just embarrassed him publicly,
privately, screaming at him. I
mean, she there's a special
place in hell for that woman.
Yeah,
honestly,
we've been hearing a lot of
stories about women like. Yeah,
I was
married to most of them.
You too, eh? Every boy needs a
hobby. Well, what what got you
into comedy? Doing comedy, how
did how did you break through
doing that?
So I was at Vanderbilt, and we
had something called Rights of
Spring, and I used to I just
started emceeing that, and
somebody said to enter this
comedy contest. I was doing a 91
rock as well. I had a one-hour
show called Adam Dred's Happy
Camper Show, but anyway, so I I
sent in this tape to WLAC
actually and made the top 10,
and then I got beat by some
no-name name Henry Cho beat me
on that one. Oh wow! And then,
but on my first five minutes,
and I kind of got the bug and
started doing open mic nights.
But I had some fun times on the
road. My first time on the road
was Creative Entertainment out
of Charlotte, and I had a
Florida tour, and it was three
one nighters, and then the
weekend in Tallahassee was that
yeah? And I was I was opening
for this guy from Ohio, and
we're driving you know our
separate cars, and I'm in a '72
BMW 2002 beater that I bought
for 700 bucks from Jimmy Lester
from Web Wilder's band late one
night, and he's in some big
Cadillac, and I'm in front, and
and all of a sudden my radiator
just blew, and he and I and he
comes up behind me and I'm
reaching to grab the thing and
grabs my hand like I would have
burned my hand off, and anyway
we're having dinner later that
night. He goes, you know I'm
gonna be famous someday, man. I
go, I bet you are, and I go,
yeah now now he is Steve Harvey.
That was Steve Harvey with my
first guy towards it. Yeah, but
he he saved me from burning my
hand off a radiator. Our first
experience. I'll tell you the
one of the dirtiest guys I ever
worked with. They I got booked
at Nick's Comedy Stop in Boston.
My first time ever being booked
as a headliner, and I was
co-headlining with this guy
named Dennis Leary. Oh, from
there. All right, I'm a pretty
new comic, but just comedy's
political as well. That's why I
got the gig. Yeah,
and I had to follow Dennis Leary
in Boston. Uh-uh. They threw me
up there as this Southern guy
just to crucify. So we switched
the orders the next night. But
there's another kid there who's
kind of open micing and doing
some stuff. And there's a lot of
one-nighter rooms around Boston
and Cape Cod that these agents
will book out. So they'll book
you for three nights for a long
weekend, but then they'll book
you in Salem or Norwich or
little towns around
Massachusetts. So this guy was
coming, driving with me, and
we're talking. I go, buddy, I
do. I did kind of like a
Seinfeld TV clean Martin Mall
kind of show back then. I said,
"Man, just just don't take me.
Just don't be really dirty at
the end. There's no problem, and
he's doing his show, and he is
dirty. And at the end of it,
he's talking about being in bed
with a girl, and just just the
foulest stuff ever came out of
this guy's mouth. He goes, "So
you ready for your headliner?
Here's Adam Dred, and like
following following following
dirty comedy. Clean comedy is
tough. That guy's doing okay
now, Joe Rogan. Oh, what? Nobody
would work with Joe. Joe was my
opener, and we're still friends.
It was funny, man, but it made
me work. You know, as a clean
comic, following a dirty comic
is not easy to do. No, it really
makes you learn. No, the
dirtiest guy ever was Bob Saget
was just oh yeah filthy. Yeah,
he was notorious for filthy.
Yeah, and that kind of surprised
people. Definitely.
Yep.
Oh yeah. Oh yeah. Absolutely.
Yeah. But gosh. So we have
comedy festivals coming up here
next week. I'm a little bit
involved with that. I have five
books about Nantucket, and the
fifth one's coming out this
year. That are kind of you might
be a redneck gift, but the
Nantucket version. Yeah. So it
would mean nothing to 99.5% of
your audience, probably in
Nashville. But okay, we talked
about Nantucket and the
hierarchy of Martha's Vineyard.
Where does Block Island fall in
that hierarchy,
so that that's New York. That's
near the Hampsteins. Yeah,
Montauk as well.
Yep. Well, I mean, it's it's a
different world. It's it's
almost comparing California. I
mean, California, you know, San
Diego to you know you know San
Francisco. We really there's
there's no crossover with Block
Island. I mean, so we have
something called the Island Cup,
which is Nantucket versus
Martha's Vineyard in football
every year.
Right,
and we always win because most
of the kids here, the locals,
they're descendants of whalers.
They're Portuguese and keep
they're Cape Verdean and
Portuguese, so these are big
boys, and you know, and the and
the guys on the vineyard are you
know, they think they're past.
You know, Peter Pan people. Have
you guys? Have you guys ever
been up there? Never, Neverland.
Martz has been here. No, I am
not. Have you? No,
not not no. Technically, so
Nantucket, Nantucket is where
Moby Dick took place.
Yeah, yeah.
This was the largest. It was. We
say the dictionary definitely.
Dictionary definition number
one: Nantucket, formerly largest
whaling port in the world.
Definition number two:
traditional mating ground for
upper class white children. We
used to-that's where
a lot of where we used to do a
lot of fishing was Block Island
area. Yeah, that whole area. Oh
yeah. So I grew up all around
tuna. I mean, we caught
whatever. I mean, a lot of
bluefish, tuna. We came out of
Charlestown Breachway and Point
Judith most of the time.
Nice.
Yeah.
I had I was tuna fishing last
year, and this blue shark would
not leave about a 10 footer
would not leave us alone because
we're using live bait. And as
soon as you threw something in,
it would just pull it. So we
finally caught the shark.
I would love. I mean, everything
you're talking about brings back
so much nostalgia. I mean, if
you guys ever get a chance to go
up there, go probably towards
the end of the summer, going
into the fall. Beautiful. It is
the weather is like that's
actually the best time, right?
We call that the shoulder.
That's the shoulder season.
Yeah, shoulder season. You want
to come up in the fall? The
water's still warm. The kids are
back in school. The day trippers
are gone, and if I could just be
here two months a year, it would
be September and October.
Yeah, and I
actually I host. I'm the I chair
Restaurant Week up here the
second week, the week after
Columbus Day. I'm sorry, the
week before Columbus Day in
October every year.
Wow, as part
of my chamber of commerce
duties. Yeah, the
many things you do. I
keep busy up there.
What you do, don't you? You're a
busy guy. You're you call
yourself a man of leisure, but I
see you more. I mean, you're
doing so much.
I spend more time trying to look
like I'm not working than
anyone. Adam Adam Dread Adam
Dread is a brand. You know, not
a human, but but I really enjoy
it, and and I honestly think I
think it's a God thing. If you
know you have the power to give
back,
yeah,
you have to. Yeah, don't sit
there. Yeah, and so while I'm
still healthy this month, I'll
I'll keep doing what I can.
Well, leave the world a little
better for everybody.
Well, you do, man. A lot of
people don't realize that, but
you do a lot of great work, and
I've and I've always looked up
to you. You know, you're you're
you're you're one of my heroes,
and I hope you know that. Thank
you,
brother. Reciprocal. Well, I
appreciate fun. Thanks for
having me, guys.
Oh, it's been our pleasure, man.
And anytime you want to invite.
In fact, if you ever want us to
do a live, we we could do a live
show. Yeah, we could do a live
show at the Vandy 10. Yeah,
we'll do a live stream.
Yeah,
we can, or we can do it at my
Vandy tent, or we can do it on
my boat up here.
Hell to hell! Let's do a boat.
Yeah, let's do both. Let's do
both. Yeah, let's get a sponsor
doing.
Here's my shameless self
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If you can spell my number,
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dude. Great way to end it.
Pleasure meeting you. Well,
dude, it's been have fun having
you on. And we're gonna have you
back on when you're in town,
man. Definitely,
I'm I'm on it. This has been my
pleasure, guys. Thank you. God
bless you, brother, and thanks
for joining us on Circling the
Drain. Where can people check us
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Well, of course, there's always
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