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I'm Hannah.
And I'm Cleo.
And you're listening to Birds on Birds.
Hey, everybody, and welcome back to Birds on Birds, the Ornithological Odyssey Podcast, where we take you on the journey while we learn about birds, and we tell you the things we learned about birds.
Hell yeah.
Hell yeah.
Buckle up.
Yeah, today I am so excited because I am bringing you, I would say, one of the more iconic birds, but I think for the reasons maybe that most people wouldn't expect or associate with the word iconic, off the bat, like if I asked a room full of birders, what's the most iconic bird, I'm not sure any of them would, they'd probably say something like, they'd probably say something really cool because birders know everything and they're very cool people.
Maybe if you asked a group of moms, they would say it peacock, but birders, birders would say something crazy.
Like, I have no idea what moms do.
I'm not going to take that where you know we could take that and I'm not going to do it.
You're welcome for that.
But no, today I am doing the tawny frog mouth.
What?
Those are so many words that don't go together.
Well, technically it's only 2 words, Hannah, now that you bring it up because frog mouth is one word. One word.
Uh, but the tiny frog mouth is, I don't know, just the cutest little guy.
Their scientific name is Podegar, us, Podargus?
Sorry, there we go.
Podargus Strogotis.
And that reminds me of Draguna, McCoy teas, which I believe is from bed knobs and broomsticks.
Yeah.
Is that a movie?
What?
It's either from Chitty Chitty Bang Bang or bed knobs and broomsticks, which is an old...
That's so interesting because they're both old movies.
I've seen way more old movies than you.
Okay, you need to watch both because I'm not sure which one it comes from, but I think it's bed knobs and broomsticks, and they basically ride a magical bed that they use the bed knobs to steer.
Drive.
And they bring a bunch of...
What about the broomsticks?
What are those suits of armor?
They bring them to life at one point.
The broomsticks you'll have to learn about when you watch it.
Okay.
Yeah.
So anyway, that's not the name, though.
It is Padargus Strigoids.
Okay, I think.
They are about 8 to 21 inches tip to tip, which is quite a variety.
I know this.
I will talk more about that later, but 34 to 53 centimeters, and they can weigh anywhere between like 0.5 and one. Or 180 to 680 grams.
Okay.
Their wingspan, it said 38 inches.
That's got a range, obviously, from size.
But I still felt like that was a lot.
It does feel large for their length.
It was another one of those situations where on birds of the world it didn't say specifically, but I found on a couple zoo websites that it said that.
So we're in kind of an interesting situation there.
Yeah, birds of the world doesn't like to give you the wingspan.
No, only sometimes when that is shown on all about birds, which is their like sister site for North America specifically.
So, yeah, it's not on there, but I would guess that they fall around like crow size on Merlin.
Yeah.
Yeah, they're like a large crow.
Well, it depends, right?
Because an 8 inch one is like pretty small.
It's like robin size.
Yeah, yeah.
So it's kind of a funky thing.
So I'll get a little bit more into that too.
So the description, generally speaking, this bird is very interesting.
A lot of the times they actually get confused with owls, um, because they have that same like tawny pattern and they have pretty big eyes, I would say, very like, um, it's what I'm looking for. Very like large eyes for their body.
And they have that kind of similar barring that I guess you would expect on an owl.
And from certain angles, they almost, like, especially the juveniles, they look kind of like owls.
Totally.
They're not even in the same family.
I double check.
They're in like the night jar nighthawk family, not even in the owls family, but generally speaking, they're normally like a grayish color and their heads have some pretty strong black barring into the wing area, like of starting on the head and into the wing.
They also have these like really cute whiskey type pieces that come out of their forehead.
Like, okay, so last week we talked about the cedar waxwing and we talked about how like sometimes dudes have the hair on the top of the head only that like goes backwards.
This is like the opposite.
Like, imagine you have bangs and you wake up in the morning after falling asleep with your hair wet and they just stick right out.
Right.
Straight out.
It's really cute and apparently they're called...
Yeah, yeah.
They're like all over right.
They're on your forehead though.
And they actually are called like whiskers.
Like, so some people refer to them as whiskers.
They are feathers, but that's how they're referred to sometimes.
It's really cute.
I think that's one of their more like, I don't know, I want to like pet it.
Even like under their beak too.
It kind of like sticks out that direction.
Yeah, and I think this is thought to be very evolutionary for a specific reason, and we'll talk a little more about that later.
Cool.
The front parts of their body are typically kind of creamier, but they have a lot more barring up front that is thinner and a lot finer.
So it's still there, but it's not quite as like thick.
Their wings also have the barring pattern, but a lot of variation in that darker and lighter color gray and sometimes brown.
They're also, their wings are known to be quite pointy, though seeing them fly is like, I would say, kind of uncommon. Not super uncommon because we'll get into this later that they are a very common defined bird, but it's they're sitting still a lot.
So basically, they look exactly like a tree brain.
They do. Like you pick them off. Is wild.
Yeah, if you picture a tree branch, that's what they look like with their with a beak, a really big beak.
Big bark.
Yeah, exactly.
The females are generally darker and they have much more like rufus effusion, which I thought was fun and I didn't know what suffusion meant.
So I looked it up and I added this just because I thought that it was pretty and we can all learn vocab together.
Suffusion means the slow and gradual spreading of fluid, color, light, or quality throughout a surface, tissue, or space.
Blush on the face, a sunset filling a sky, or an emotion permeating a piece of music.
Whoa.
And I said, wow, okay.
Gorgeous. Relevant.
Wow, that is beautiful.
Unnecessary. Getting emotional.
But gorgeous.
So they have a suffusion of rufous color.
But it's not, it's more that kind of like chestnutty color. We were talking about, but there is a Rufus morph of tawny frog mounts.
And it is quite rare, but there is a reddish colored one that kind of exists out in the world that are their own morph.
I wonder if it's based on like their environment.
They're trying to camouflage more with like certain type of tree.
You're very, you're very on the money there, and I'll get a little bit more into that later, but yeah, there is a lot of what is called clinal variation for these guys. Clinal mean climate.
And some of that is thought to be part of that as well.
Interesting.
Juveniles look a lot like adults in coloration.
They just have a lot less contrast and their plumage is a bit softer and fluffier.
I think they look like Shih Tzu puppies.
The babies, I think, look like Shih Tzu puppies.
Because their feathers are so soft that, like, you can't quite see that wide beak yet.
And so it kind of looks like that flat face of a Shih Tzu puppy.
I think they're really cute.
And I think they're one of the like, um, one of the cuter like baby juvenile birds.
They do kind of look like owl young too, though.
What makes them interesting and what I kind of talked about earlier is how much they will vary in size and color, which seems to be entirely climate dependent.
There are 3 recognized subspecies as of right now, podagaris, strogotis, phalenoids, and brachipyterpetus.
At one point, I guess there were like 5 different that were potentially recognized, but now 3 is kind of like where we're at, and it's because they vary so much in size and coloration that it's, they're having a hard time deciding if this is like different subspecies or if it's just based on, you know, like they're just, you know, not sure.
But this is where we're at now.
This is where we are.
Yeah, I was like gonna explain like why they haven't chosen as if I was in the room, but really it just says that at one point there were 5 and at some points there were 0 subspecies.
So there's a lot of conversation, obviously, within the frog mouth studiers that they're not sure about.
They also have bright yellow eyes.
They're known for having their bright yellow eyes and their feet are like a gray color and they're definitely shaped to grip branches.
They've got like predator feet.
Um, kind of like the toes spread out with like uh, almost like talony, but more so for perching, even though they do eat things that they will hunt, which we'll talk about more.
But the mouth is really what these guys are known for.
Like the shape of the mouth and everything that kind of comes with that.
Okay.
So they are the family Padarga day, which does not seem right, which are known as the frog mouths, of which there are 16 of them.
Damn.
The birds of the world, and I quote from, because I didn't know you could look at families on Bird of the World.
So like you can just look at the descriptions.
It says the burly brutes of the caprigamol forms.
Frog mouths are much less aerial than most of their relatives.
Oh, so that explains not seeing them in flight.
But also burly brutes.
For what reason?
It feels personal.
It feels personal.
It feels like an attack.
And why, Burleigh, and also how brute.
Yeah.
Say more.
So, I don't know.
I love them still.
I just thought that was like quite a funny paragraph.
And honestly, the entire thing was quite funny, but to get to my point, they basically have this very short but wide beak.
So when you look at like, I guess I should say short in comparison to how wide it actually is, when you're thinking of a normal bird beak, it feels generally width to length, feels like it makes sense.
These, no, they have a very wide, very like stumpy mouth, hence their name, the frog mouths.
Yeah, exactly.
It's exactly what it looks like.
And when its mouth is open, you can really see like all the way in their throats in a way that like no one would ever ask for.
No.
It's really spooky, actually, when they open their mouths like all the way.
And apparently that is used to kind of like freak other animals out, like when they like.. With their big eyes and their big mouths.
So that's fun.
So their sound is kind of like, if an owl was going a lot faster, it's described as like, woo, a woo, mow, mow.
And it's like a soft and unobtrusive, and it says that on birds of the world, it says unobtrusive, which I completely agree with, I think it's quite nice, actually.
Like if I heard it at night, I wouldn't be freaked out.
No, it's very pleasant.
Woo, woo, woo.
Yeah.
I'll play that here.
So this sound most often happens during breeding season, so sometimes they will like duet, but it's not so much a duet in the sense of like the tohees, like where they're going back and forth and they're making a whole situation out of it.
It's more so that they are like calling and then there's like some kind of response and that seems to happen more often in a breeding season.
Okay.
There's not a ton known.
They also have been seen chittering their beak when they're threatened, but that is, I think, pretty common with most birds.
Yeah.
They are non-migratory A-S. To the point where they are described as basically sedentary in their territories, and that's because basically they spend the entire day, during daylight, they're nocturnal on a tree branch pretending to be a tree branch.
So when I mention the whiskers kind of at the top of their face, literally what they'll do is they will sit on a tree branch and they will just kind of like tilt their bodies, their heads up just slightly so that basically what's happening is their, um, bodies are kind of in a straight line and they literally look like like a broken off tree branch and those little whiskers at the top of their head add to that extra like pointyness to the top of a branch.
So where their mouth would be is kind of like disguised by these different little whiskers that are sticking out.
So it looks like you like knocked a tree branch off.
That makes so much sense.
Yeah, exactly.
Exactly.
So they're really like, they do not move around a lot at all.
They can be basically found in all of Australia and Tanzania, but they're generally found in trees or shrubs where they can roost, but also hunt from perches.
They prefer places where the trees are less dense.
So when you're thinking dense forests and you're thinking like deep canopies, like if you were to look up in a forest and you just see treetop, that's not really their vibe, they're more on the edge of forest because they want to be able to like survey the ground and they need to be able to see a little more.
So they prefer like semi-dense forest.
And the only places you're really not going to see them are treeless, semi-desert areas, because they prefer to be in trees and they need trees.
So a lot of tree coverage is not great.
It's like a slightly less than dense tree coverage is ideal for them.
But they can also be seen doing this on fence posts sometimes.
So, you know, they recognize tree even when tree in different form.
Yeah.
And this has a lot to do with their diet and hunting patterns, and I'll talk a little bit more about that later because it also kind of has to do with their mouth.
Surprisingly, I thought, I don't know, maybe it's not surprising, but surprisingly to me, they're monogamous and they make for life.
And I wrote in my note, ah, the frogs are gay.
The frogs are gay.
They also have biparental care of young.
No, we love that.
And they don't do any dances, but they just use like a low pitched call, and then the male will sometimes get closer to the female and seemingly just like softly stroke his feather hurt feathers with his beak, which is kind of cute.
And then they're like, now we're together forever.
Wow.
Yeah, so it's like very calm and gentle.
That's very sweet.
Their nests are a...
Yeah, gentle penis, exactly.
They don't have a penis.
They're one of the, they're not one of the birds with a penis, but they do give like a slight, a very non-obtrusive mating situation.
Yeah.
Their nests are a very coarse, very stick and twig heavy platform situation.
They're actually not known for building very goodness at all.
They kind of just find a fork of a tree.
So think where like 2 branches meet and they just kind of dump a bunch of sticks onto it.
And then they're like, this will probably work.
Okay.
Yeah, it's not it's not sophisticated really at all.
Makes sense.
They both do it together.
They build it together and that matters, you know?
It's a it's a home.
It is a home.
They do nest pretty high up, usually at least 3 meters off the ground and up to 10 meters, so that's like 10 to 30 ish feet.
And nests are built by both parents, as I mentioned, and they have one to 3 eggs per clutch, and very rarely up to five, but it has been noted before.
Wow.
It is noted that they both incubate as well.
And the males will typically incubate during the day and the females will take over at night.
But the parents actually will feed each other at the nest while they're incubating.
So they'll like go back and forth and if one is like out and the other sitting on the nest, it'll come back and be like, here's some food for you.
Here's something for you.
Wow.
I know, super cute.
The nestlings have a white natal down.
It's really cute, very fuzzy, a little bit uncanny valley, but like in a way that birds are.
And the young are brooded and fed by both parents and fledge within 25 to 35 days, but the parents will still feed them one to 2 weeks after they leave the nest.
So they'll literally be like, when your kid goes to college, but you're still sending them grocery money.
It's kind of like that Or you're like, mom is dropping things off at your 1st apartment.
You know what I mean?
And they also, though, have so that's typical one to 2 weeks, but there is notes that sometimes they actually stay a few more months beyond that.
So the younger, they're just like late bloomers, if you will, and they're not ready.
And they typically have their clutch sometime between August and September, but that's like sort of understudied.
As far as what they eat, I read somewhere that basically they eat anything that fits in their mouth.
August, September in Australia is spring.
Oh, cool.
Okay, so that's normal.
Yeah.
Well, bird normal, I guess you could say. Most, right?
I think so.
Spring?
Yeah.
Yeah.
That what I thought.
Okay. Questioning my questioning myself here.
But yeah, basically their mouths, what that mouth do, everything.
It eat everything.
It literally, like, and quite a bit fits in their mouth.
Yeah, it's huge.
So they eat mostly large insects and other invertebrates, so think scorpion, spider, centipedes, but they also eat frogs, earthworms, slugs, crustaceans, millipedes, lizards, and other small birds are mammals.
Damn.
So truly like anything. Except for fruit, apparently. Protein. Protein protein.
Even frogs, even though they look like frogs.
Actually, especially frogs probably.
Cannibalism.
Yeah, exactly.
They, it didn't say anything about cannibalism, but maybe.
They do eat other small birds.
So if like one that was 20 inches found an 8 inch one?
Could be.
Could be.
They hunt.
So kind of going back to what we were talking about before.
They hunt by staying very, very still and pretending to be a tree branch on a tree branch or a fence post.
And when they spot prey, they basically spring into action and they go get them.
So a lot of the times the reason that they're looking for these like less dense forest areas is because they will survey like the open space from where they're perches, whether that be on the ground or in the air.
So thinking insects versus small mammals, and they'll just wait until a moment where they can spot it and they'll kind of like spring from their hiding spot and then go get them.
So they only do that at night, but basically their whole lives is like, I'm stay still.
Okay.
And I'm B too.
It also is mentioned that if it has larger or tougher prey, they will beat them against the purge before they swallow them.
So either knocking them out or tenderizing them. You know, kind of breaking up the bones a little bit.
No, that's semi-common.
Yeah exactly.
Their conservation status is of least concern, which is really cool.
They are quite common across Australia and seem to do really well in urban environments, but are impacted when trees are completely removed.
However, partial clearing of more dense forest seems to attract them.
So it's a kind of a similar situation to cedar wax swings where there's like some human invasion is actually good for them, but...
Benefited them.
Clearing forest obviously completely would not.
They are hit by cars pretty often and because they will often feed on the side of roads and highways and are especially vulnerable because of this to feral cats and foxes as well.
So those are their main issues.
Yeah.
And throughout history.
They have had several like bounce backstories from things like pesticides or shooting nest disturbances, wire fences, but seemingly are now thriving and are quite common in zoos too.
So that's a lot of fun.
I don't think I've ever seen one in a zoo and I'm a little upset about that.
I've only ever seen ones on...
I'm trying to think of even seen any like night jar relatives in a zoo.
I think I've seen some night jars, but I don't think I've ever seen a frog mouth or a Putu or anything in the family because I think I'd remember that.
Yeah, I think you would.
I would remember that.
That would that would hit me because the reason I even did this was actually, which takes me into my next spot.
The reason I even did this was because I found a video that was posted by, I'm going to pronounce this wrong, but I'm going to try really hard on Tang Tengang Yika Wildlife Park video.
I'm so sorry.
Tang Tanganika, Yika. Of 2 tawny frog mounts, and one was bypassed to be fed, and the other looks directly at the camera.
Like, so there's 2 sitting on a perch, one is a little smaller than the other. Someone goes to feed them.
It's got like, I don't know, like a rat or something on some tongs, goes to put it in their mouth. Bird, like, the 2nd the bird closer to us, basically kind of like goes to reach for it, then the other one gets fed, and then it looks directly at the camera, like breaking the 4th wall and looks shook.
Yeah, absolutely so upset.
It's so cute.
It really made me cute.
They're just like very charismatic because they have such big eyes and big mouths that they really feel very like silly to look at.
So I highly recommend that you go down a rabbit hole of looking at the frog mouth family on either YouTube, Instagram or whatever.
You will not be disappointed by the silliness.
Yeah.
As I mentioned, they are nocturnal.
They sleep during the day.
They barely move.
They just sit on a branch and pretend to be part of the tree, but this behavior is lovingly called stumping, which I love.
They're acting like a stump.
Yes.
And the last fun fact, I have is that they have a very long and thin forked tongue with a see-through tip.
It actually looks kind of like a lily pad that is coming out of their mouth and all frog mouths have this.
It's really funky.
It's hard to describe.
Even more like a frog mouth.
Yeah, yeah.
And I don't know how much they're using their tongue for that, but it truly literally looks like the shape of a lily pad, like kind of curved at the top, and then it goes down to a tip, except towards the pointed tip at the bottom.
It's like completely see-through and like papery.
So it's super weird.
I don't know.
It's a very weird tongue.
And if you look up tawny frogmouth tongue.
You will see lots of very interesting pictures.
You'll also see a lot of pictures with them with their mouth open, which is fun.
I did also Google if they have a group name and they technically don't.
However, it does look like a lily pad. See what you mean.
Exactly.
Exactly.
It's but see-through and skinny. And by skinny, I mean skin colored, like flesh, but like inside flesh, organ flesh, color, except for the see-through tip.
But what I was saying was I, they don't have group names.
They don't really exist in groups like that.
Like they're not non-social, but they kind of just like stick with their pair, it seems like.
And then they mostly just kind of do their own thing and stick around their own territory.
But if they did have a group name, someone on Reddit said that they should be called a branch.
And I thought that was fun.
Like a bunch of them together would just be a branch.
That makes sense.
Or a tree, like just a whole tree, because it's a bunch of branches all together.
And I just wanted to propose that.
But I suppose, can you, is it even, is there a point to having group names for a bird that doesn't really group?
I think yes.
Because what if?
You know, a tree of tawny frog mounts, a tree of branches, if you will.
That sounds adorable.
Yeah, exactly.
So that's all I have for tawny frog mouths.
I mean, there's there's an interesting amount of information on these, I would say, because they're quite popular in the zeitgeist as far as like how much people like them, but there's still a lot that is to left to kind of be learned about them.
Um, and like a lot of their behavior and what they actually get up to.
But for pop culture.
I'm curious if you have anything, but I have 2 that I would throw up for you.
And by throw up, I mean...
I mean, regurgitating.
Yes, exactly.
I mean that I will put up as options that I came up with.
Okay.
Do you want to know them?
Do you want to know?
Yeah, I want to know them.
Okay.
The 1st one is Kirby.
Because he or she, I don't know what Kirby is, eats everything and can open its mouth really wide to swallow everything.
Oh my gosh. Which is pretty good.
I never saw that coming.
Yeah.
That shocks me.
Thank you.
And then the 2nd one is Kermit the Frog.
Okay, because of the frog, yeah.
I feel like, especially when he breaks the 4th wall.
Like, you know when Kermit does that thing where he, like, looks directly at the camera and his mouth kind of like opens specifically in that video that you and I both watch where they look and the mouth is just open and he looks upset right at the camera.
Like, did you see that?
Did you fucking see that?
It's Kermit, and it's because Miss Piggy just...
And I think that's very Kermit the frog coated.
I like that. Like that a lot.
How do you feel?
Um, I don't know.
This is a weird one because they don't really look like a person at all.
They look like a Muppet.
Yeah.
Or a tree Muppet.
Or an owl.
They look like a lot of things that aren't humans.
Um, but I was trying to think of like weird weird but cute humans.
Or pop culture frogs, but I could only come up with Kermit.
Kermit.
Yeah. Is really the only...
Jeremiah was a bullfrog, but he's not a friend of mine, so...
And what does he even look like?
Don't know.
Someone, Jeremiah.
Does anyone know He's in witness protection after that song.
I actually...
So, I, there's this one human that I really like and I think that his name kind of sounds like their sound.
Um, and there's this one photo of him that's like a meme.
And, um, I think that it kind of, William Defoe.
William Defoe.
Willem Defoe looking up.
Okay, actually, Willem Defoe does kind of look like a Tony.
Well, okay, but that's the thing, because Willem Defoe is an odd looking person.
He's definitely the type of person who people are like, he's an alien. Trapped in a human body.
Yes.
He does have frog attributes.
Oh, yeah, he's giving frog.
And he also has bird attributes.
I agree.
But specifically there's the meme of William Defoe, Willem Defoe looking up, and it's this photo that you've probably seen when you look it up, you'll see it and you'll be like, oh, yeah, I've seen that on the internet.
Apparently it's from the movie where he plays Vincent Van Gogh, which I never actually saw.
I didn't even know that that really existed.
Yeah.
But I will be watching it as soon as possible.
But.
I do think he specifically looks a bit like a tawny frog mouth with that specific look.
Wow. Don't disagree with you.
I actually think that you're 100% correct.
And yeah, so basically Kermit the Frogger Willem Defoe.
That's who our poll for this week is between.
That's the thing.
I keep almost saying William, but his name is Willem.
And they kind of sound like they're saying, wellum, wellum.
Oh, like a frog.
When their call.
Yeah, no, I do, and yeah, I, you really, I think you nailed it.
I actually think this is a pretty good one.
I do think if we were going to do a poll on this, which doesn't look more like.
It's got to be between Kermit or William Defoe. Which did Willem Defoe ever think that he would be in between, you know, like, would that would it be one or the other?
I don't think so With Kermit?
I don't know.
You think he's, I don't think he looks like Kermit the Frog.
He doesn't.
But somehow the tawny frog mouth looks like both of them.
And it's up to you all to really decide. To decide.
You have to choose.
They're both feeling really insecure.
This is the biggest priority that could possibly exist right now.
For both of them.
Yes.
And that's all I've got.
That's it for the tawny frog mouth. Love them.
I love them so much I want to learn.
I mean, I do love night jars in general.
I think they're very cool.
It's just a lot.
I think this episode is one of those where it's like 100% better once you see the bird.
Like, all of them are great because you can imagine the bird, but I think you really have to see just how like muppety and ridiculous this bird looks in order to really understand what we're saying and that will make it more fun.
The whiskers on the forehead.
It's so cute.
It's so cute.
I did briefly think about putting your dog up for that, Ollie, because she looks at it, but not all the time.
She just specifically looks at you in such a way where she looks at you like the way that one looked at the camera.
Like, I can't believe you're fucking doing this to me.
And then I looked at more pictures at her and I was like, no, she doesn't really look like this.
She just made the same face where she looks like she's breaking the 4th wall where she's like, you're kidding, right?
Yeah.
You're putting me in this situation right now?
No.
But she, yeah, I'm sure there's another bird that is a similar look of disbelief that she might look more like.
Definitely.
She doesn't blend into trees.
No, she wishes though, I bet.
She could spook the neighbors by blending into a tree.
She'd do it.
100%.
And we love her for that.
Yes.
So before we go, I'll say stop doom scrolling and be a branch.
Yeah, be one with the trees.
Stop doom scrolling and make the frogs gay.
Make your frogs gay.
You actually, so there is some truth behind that.
Oh, that's true.
The frog's gay thing. The what was actually happening?
Sorry, I'm gonna maybe quote this wrong.
But basically what was happening is that there is a type of frog that can switch genders.
And there was something that was happening with the pH of the water that was causing them to do this at like a much higher rate.
So when Alex Jones said they're making the frogs gay, he actually like wasn't spreading conspiracy.
He kind of was right that one time.
He just really was simplifying it.
Okay.
The way that I'm really simplifying it right now.
Right.
But you get what I'm saying that like, I'm not an Alex Jones truther, to be clear, I don't think anybody should listen to him.
But I think it's kind of funny that there is some truth to that.
And I like to tell people about that.
Well, and in Jurassic Park, that's also how the dinosaurs start breeding.
Yeah.
Because they use frog DNA to support the fake dinosaurs.
It's quite a bit in amphibians and fish.
And sometimes I think it's an adaptive trait to like carry on genetics.
Totally.
Fascinating.
So, yeah, um, maybe, I don't know.
Pick your gender.
It's chic. Don't know.
Pick your gender.
Be who you want to be.
And shout out to the LGBTQIA plus.
Yeah, we love you and we love frog mouths, period.
And with that, stay.
Stay cool bird boy.