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98: Tell Your Story That Creates A Movement That Will Change Lives With Dr. John Tan
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The podcast features business leaders, celebrities and inspirational figures with guests including Gary Vaynerchuk, Sheryl Sandberg, Elena Cardone, Mary Buffett, Neil Patel, Kim Kiyosaki, Pia Wurtzbac, Gerry Roberts, Grant Cardone, Denise Duffield Thomas, Sue B Zimmerman, Jay Abraham, Robert Kiyosaki, Anik Singal, Blair Singer, Nas Daily, Dame Wendy Tan, Jacy Wee, Freda Liu, Carrie Lee, Success Resources Veronica Tan & Richard Tan and many more.
Hear more about amazing role models from around the world share their inspirational stories and practical tools for personal and professional success. In each episode, creator and host Genecia Alluora draws out the stories and deconstructs the strategies of remarkable figures making an impact. To Own & Love The F-Word: Being Fabulous, Having Freedom, Financial Independence and family.
Genecia Alluora is a former Miss Singapore, Cafe Retail Chain Owner and Southeast Asia Woman of Excellence 2010, 𝑰𝒏𝒕𝒆𝒓𝒏𝒂𝒕𝒊𝒐𝒏𝒂𝒍 𝑷𝒓𝒐𝒈𝒓𝒆𝒔𝒔𝒊𝒗𝒆 𝑾𝒐𝒎𝒆𝒏 2019. She is the Founder of Soul Rich Woman, the #1 female entrepreneur network in Southeast Asia that connects more than 200,000 women across the region in the ‘Soul F’ membership program. For the past 17 years, Genecia coached celebrities, CEOs and politicians to be seen as a leader on stage. Today, with the Soul Rich Woman Blueprint and online academy, she mentors hundreds of thousands of women to bring their business and leadership brand online. With her coaching products, academy and membership, her vision is to support 1 million women to own and love the F-Word.
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Genecia Alluora: A strong and independent woman is something to behold. She pays her own bills, buys her own things, and she doesn't let a man affect her stability or self-confidence. She is a Soul Rich Woman. Are you ready to be rich, doing what you love? Be on purpose and in control of your life again. And For Women Who Love the F-word Podcast, we will be openly talking about getting more clients online, getting recognition as the leader and female entrepreneur, and also the F word. Being fabulous, having freedom and financial independence. It's time to own and love the F word. Welcome to the show.
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Genecia Alluora: All right. So right now, let's bring on Dr. John. He's here. And we just want to get Dr. John to share his experience. I think we are very, very happy to have Dr. John here today to share his journey with us. And then how podcasting, why he did podcast. You know, I've known Dr. John for a long time. For the last 20 years, he's been a dinosaur online. And it was so difficult to convince this doctor to really get his ass online. No, but he's great. Okay. So how are you, Dr. John?
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Dr. John Tan: Yes, I'm good. Thank you. Thank you for having me. I think, yes, it's been wonderful listening to Joanne. And Joanne is a very fantastic podcast coach. So I'm selling. You know, but it's fantastic because it does mean a lot to me, primarily because, well, there's a philosophical spin to podcasting as well, not just the business aspect as well. And I think that's when, as a medium, it opens itself up to different people. So firstly, it will be the people who want to listen to your story. And there are various, various people out there that you do not know yet. Right? So I think the possibility is more of ourselves, the belief that we have.
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Dr. John Tan: So when Strube and Junish first approached me, I was like, what, podcasting? What is that medium all about? And I said, wow, there's a lot of things that were prepared technically. And they keep telling me, no, it's not. You have a story. The story needs to be heard. Right? It's just a matter of, like, in this morning, going through how you structure the story and then how you present it. And then later, the technical aspects that come, you know, with all the other details. But the important thing is that you have something that you want and then to share. So for me, it's more like, at this stage in my life, it's about leaving a legacy of knowledge, of information. And lessons I've learned, primarily from mistakes, from errors and all that. And it's a point of, firstly, reflection.
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Dr. John Tan: And then secondly, just sharing this, you know, with people who can do something with it. So the impact of it all is that it's been some months since it's really been launched. I've had a quite a number of people in, you know, my community, Facebook and all that, just writing back to me and saying, wow, you know, you talk about this and mention some things or sharing the posts and all that. It goes on every week. At the same time, it has gone around the world because I'm listening to friends globally who have also shared that. So to me, I find that this is just spot on, that idea of me just sharing my bit and whether or not, for me, as I move on to a different stage in my life right now, about maybe going more into consultancy, it's really laid that runway for me.
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Dr. John Tan: So I think it's a fantastic opportunity. If you are like, in the beginning, like me, unsure, not sure, the best thing to do is just to take the leap first and try and then put it out there. Put a message out there. Like a test bait, then you can just adjust accordingly. So currently, right now, I am contemplating on the second season where I will go deeper depending on the feedback I've already been receiving. And that's when I can even touch more lives in a way that really makes sense. So it has been a fantastic journey. Yes, you have to put in the work and the effort. You have to put in that kind of focus to it, yes, but the spin-off from it would be really, really wonderful, right? So this has been my sharing. So open to any questions that you may have.
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Genecia Alluora: Very fortunate to have and very blessed to have Dr. John with us. So if you have anything pertaining the journey, getting on to podcasting, you know, how did he do it? You can actually ask him. In fact, I have a question for you. In fact, it was before COVID that he recorded the episodes and he was at our studio. So there was no need to invest in his own equipment. But because now there is COVID, Dr. John just bought his equipment and has so much trouble finding all the microphones and equipment because everything is sold out. If not, it's double the price. So it's really a very tough time for everybody who wants to get onto the bandwagon of doing podcasting. And I think great equipment. Okay, so Jaron is asking, Dr. John, how many episodes have you recorded and where can I access these?
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Dr. John Tan: Okay, so there are a few ways of doing it, but I think over the course of a few days concentrated, I had set aside some time. And so I think it took me about three to four days of recording. And the whole journey. First of all, I think 55 episodes, if I'm not mistaken, or 56, and then after that, it's launched. So the whole idea then is that you get into the groove rather than, you know, spacing it out. And it's actually, it does mean that there's a lot of work that has to be done, not only by yourself, but, you know, by the coach as well. But it's a lot of work. It is focused. So about there, one whole season has been completed. Where is it? There are quite a number. I've lost count. I don't know how many places where they are at the moment. Right, Genecia?
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Genecia Alluora: Yeah. You have already gone to 20 platforms, more than 20 platforms. Yeah. Online. That's why we've got the distribution and the reach. Yes. So Jaron is saying, Wow! Within four days. So Dr. John, why don't you share your experience at the beginning, you, of course, you were resistant and then you had certain things that were on your mind. You know, you were toggling between writing a script, right? You're like so insistent, you know, then we like tug of war. You tug of war with me, then you tug of war with Joanne. Like, hey, I gotta write my script. Why don't you share how you break through your mindset?
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Dr. John Tan: Well, a lot of it has to do with a certain sense of how perfect you want it. Perfection. So if you insist on being a perfectionist, then one of the things I can take away is that it will be very hard to take off. So the thing is to just let it go. Tell the story. Do not be worried about errors. And then I realized, maybe I should have a script. And so, you know, my episode is like about 12 minutes, 40 minutes at the most. In order to do that, you need like X number, like 10,000 words. So can you imagine if you write the script for everyone, it's going to take a long time. So I did that for like about three episodes, right? It took a lot of effort and went in and followed the script. Even had a PowerPoint slide in front of me and I click, click, click.
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Dr. John Tan: And I remember Joanne was beside me. Joanne, you remember? She was like, okay, okay. Then she asked, when I tell your story, just tell your story. So for the next fourth episode or whatever, I just told my story. And then she paused. And then she said, you know, what's the difference? You're very natural as you told the story. You know, you write a script. Yeah, script, it sounds maybe very nice and all that, but it's scripted. So here's the thing. When you have that flow, then I realized, wow, yes, I have this point. Just need to split it up, spread it out. And before I know it, you have your episodes. And they come in batches, right? So what I took away was, you go for excellence, yes, but not to the point of error-free perfection. It's not going to happen. Secondly, you have your story. Let your story come out. And then from there, it just flows, right? And do in batches because it does help it that you might bunch it together. And before I know it, wow, it was that 55 done.
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Genecia Alluora: Okay, very good. And actually, well, on your journey, right, what were some of the things that you considered? I mean, when you decide on the content of your podcast, I mean, a lot of people are always very distracted by the content, right? Oh, should I be talking about this or that? How do you eventually decide that you wanted to focus on specific youth issues? Because youth issues alone, there's so much, I mean, you've seen so much in the last 30 years running Care Singapore and on your journey, right? But why do you choose only that specific ones? Don't tell me because not enough episodes. Okay.
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Dr. John Tan: I think it's more of bearing in mind who the audience is. So for me, I had a few people in mind and so the batching came along with those people in mind, for example, one of the groups that I had to rather want to reach out will be parents of teenagers. And then going through with the journey of what they will go through possibly dealing with their kids. And so the issues that just come up, so it comes up very naturally. And with a lot more, like so you, you have that person in mind at first and then from there you develop. So to me that it became, we have so many, how do you then choose? So, which is why I'm gunning for a season number two. Yeah.
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Genecia Alluora: And I remember there was a concern that you had. I remember you say, oh, but Genecia, you're running Soul Rich Woman. Then, I'm a man. Remember that the first conversation, the first day you sat down with me and like, Hey, but then how, so what was, how did you, how did you tell yourself?
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Dr. John Tan: Yeah. So I was kind of joking, but you know, people are wondering what happened. I mean how come? And then, so in order to answer that question, the question would be firstly, why? And my answer was very simple, rather in the form of another question and that question is Why not? Why not? It's not so much the gender as getting the job done and get it done very, very well. And I believe Genecia and team has done it really well. And make it very seamless, I wouldn't say painless because you're putting the effort. I would say seamless. And I would say that it is effective. Right. So back to my answer to the question of why will be why not? Yeah. So there you have it.
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Genecia Alluora: Okay. So Janet has a quarter question. How do you feel when you launch 55 episodes and what were the responses like? After you shared, I mean, you, you did say that people actually come up to you and, and did feedback to you, but what were some of the specifics?
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Dr. John Tan: Yeah. So, firstly, I remember I did it over, it was last year, um, Christmas season. So it was a very blessed Christmas season for me because I'm a person of faith. And so I feel that, wow, this is just a good time for me to do it. And so number one, I felt very fulfilled and accomplished at least this portion is done because I'm really moving into legacy kind of you know face in life. But the responses that came back ever slowly and then when the full episodes came on and five came up and it was posted in more and more platforms. And then with, uh, participation from people. I'm on Facebook, LinkedIn, and all that with my contacts and all, and then the words started spreading and sharing.
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Dr. John Tan: And people ask me questions like, wow, what did you do it? And then some of the questions were asked a bit difficult for me to answer or how do you do it and how do you get all this? This cause I don't know the full flesh details. Today I had a better idea through listening to Joanne. Right. So, all these questions were asked of me and at the most, I've just said, you know, when you check it out, check it out you know, check out Soul Rich Woman and all that. So they were asking questions of people saying how do you do this was this so, you know, they were asking like, Wow! before that you didn't have and now you have it. So it's inspiring them but then and I would say this very carefully also is that when you want to do it then you have to put your heart and mind in it.
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Dr. John Tan: If one that something that holds you back is because you're not sure how to do it the uncertainty is because of just being anxious a little bit I would say just go for it your heart is there just do it but then having your heart there you need to put your hand in it you really have to work on it because then the rewards will come. So to me lots of my friends ask me and some say they also want to do it. I said sure, it's good to have that but then you must also put aside that kind of time and effort. Yeah. So this has been my my journey.
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Genecia Alluora: Joanne asked what are the struggles or objections you have before doing the podcast?
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Dr. John Tan: Number one. I don't have enough things to say. Number two. My voice not good enough. Number three. Will people listen? And all these were just anxieties. People do listen in fact just the other day someone's asking me, hey you know your shor.by website went down cannot listen to the episode asked me to check what's wrong with it. I'm like, oh, okay, okay. I didn't know about it and tell him, oh, it's up already it's not like, Wow! Okay, you're also listening too. I wasn't sure but people are they one of the things about podcasts is that and it's powerful as a medium even when we are consuming lots of visual diet right to screen time and all that is that some people listen they just pop on the episode it comes on it plays on the playlist.
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Dr. John Tan: And particularly for spotify right you just organize your playlist and if they are moving from point A to point B. And then they will listen or during circuit breaker or lockdown people have more time and they just listen by playlisting. So I find that it's a very powerful medium now it's hard to get your message across. Yeah. So all my objections were all you know, just anxieties only.
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Genecia Alluora: Later on you actually just took the microphone and then you refused to let it go. Okay, yeah. So Dr. John. Okay, so we really start we can't stop. So what now after now you're doing you're thinking about your season two and you're reflecting and just the other day we're having this conversation? I mean I still feel that at first you say, Oh, I'm very busy because you say that because now Care and in the course of covid you have to bring Care online as well and then you're so busy organizing all these schedules. How are you going to find time? You know, I know I'm like chasing you for schedule as well. Are you gonna find time to really work on your season two?
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Dr. John Tan: I think I'm looking forward to getting those equipment in and then find the way possible of doing it from my own computer with support. So I think that's one of the things. Number two of course i'm listening to what the needs are and they have shifted a little bit particularly because of this covid pandemic there are certain sets of anxieties and certain fears that people may have that can be addressed in messaging as well. And so the issue with them would be of prioritizing and putting the scheduling done correctly and then having the equipment support. Yeah. So I think that's that's how I'll be looking at it.
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Genecia Alluora: I love that. So if you have any more questions if you have questions for Dr John please feel free to type it into the comments below this video. We'll be happy to address them he is very gracious to be here he attended the full training because he didn't know what was it about and then he actually took on and took a leap of faith to do podcasting. And today we invited him here to join the program so that he also know what really is happening and what really how it works behind the scenes as well. So Jaron and Ramon both of you are feel free to ask questions and of course Janet just now said that she has more questions than Joanne. Can you also put your questions into the chat and then we can continue to get Dr John to share with us his thoughts on the things that you're talking about, he's been sharing about.
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Genecia Alluora: Actually, I'm very curious Dr John. You have so much things to say. Janet ask the same question. How do you do it in between 10 to 12 minutes when there's so much things to share always you have so much experience 30 years on the ground. You know, you have so much things to share how do you do it in 10 minutes?
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Dr. John Tan: Yeah, so actually what I found is that the topics you just need to split up and the only thing there is about having a few parts to the same topic and having a story and a lesson to it it's already 10 minutes. Honestly, I also know that you need to bunch it so that it is just nice for consumption it's not too long maybe boring and so yeah. So this is where I said if you've had the life experiences and I think you guys have that is a matter of looking at the content and maybe draw the appropriate diagram like you know mind map or fish bone to structure out the stories that you have part one part two and that's where coaches come in and to ask you questions about what can be fleshed out deeper more according to your audience.
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Dr. John Tan: So for me in 10 minutes just one point but that point is uh sandwiched with a example with a story with a lesson and then a call to action or possibly what can be in the next episode and so before you know you have about four or five episodes because you do a wrap up at the end as well. And so you actually have a lot and before you know it you find, you don't have enough time. Yeah.
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Genecia Alluora: I love that. How did Adeline think and view your podcast? Actually did Adeline listen to your podcast?
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Dr. John Tan: That's a good question. Yeah. I think she did but not all.
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Genecia Alluora: Because she listened to you for a lifetime.
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Dr. John Tan: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Genecia Alluora: It's funny. Okay. Cool. Okay, Joanne have you got any more questions last round? Before we let him take a break and then we do a wrap up for this podcast session.
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Joanne Lee: Just one last question, Dr John. Yeah. I just want to thank you so much for gracing this event I really appreciate it. Yeah. So I just, I mean apart from the launch that you share with your friends how was the responses out from your family and did they have any objections to you when you share with them that you're going to do the podcast?
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Dr. John Tan: I think it was not. No objections at all basically they see as an extension of my work and my sharing. I've been devoting all these years to helping and then now to encapsulate. I think one of the thing that is still not done yet which is getting a book out. So the next best thing to getting a book out is actually getting a podcast out and getting your podcast out. You can just split up you know to in the airwaves and to the internet bytes and bits and bytes to an even bigger audience and I think it's a good thing that you're getting a book out and then gathering that even I was talking to Genecia, right? That this can then be captured into a book later on. So to me it has been encouraging journey.
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Dr. John Tan: People are asking when's the next one? So I mean for them they are saying, oh, yeah, it's the next episode they will come you know because now I think the release is about to 30 something already so there's still 20 more. But what they didn't know is that season two will be coming up later and that's when I'll go deeper so then again it's extending what I feel be my sharing as well. Yeah.
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Genecia Alluora: Okay. Do you have a prelude or like a like a trailer to what you're going to share in season two?
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Dr. John Tan: I think going deeper and also thinking more about what's happening and this covid experience for many people and how are they dealing with uncertainty and dealing with changes. And also because of the agency that I'm running right and working with the students who are impacted these young people are impacted. So it's a new generation that will be impacted by having to deal with uncertainty as part of their their life. And above all which is harder for all will be the parents, right? The parents who are going dealing with going through this themselves with a very tough economy and yet bringing out their children with this great uncertainty as well. So I think I will grapple with that and then have issues to talk about it bite size again that can be applied the moment you hear the podcast. Yeah. So that is my goal. Yeah.
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Genecia Alluora: Okay. So the question is what's the most rewarding part of your podcast journey?
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Dr. John Tan: I think is the ability to have my messaging or my message that I want to share go to audiences that I didn't even expect. So one of the hats I'm wearing is actually I volunteer with the commonwealth. The commonwealth group of nations but on the youth work aspect and without me knowing they were going through because currently in my sector now the youth work sector we are dealing with this whole thing called digital youth work. And without me knowing that one of the professors on the other side from Europe took my podcast and then displayed it as a example of how we are doing digitization. Now. See we never even thought about it. So for me the rewarding part is that, Wow the impact, the potential of the impact is even beyond your imagination.
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Dr. John Tan: So my intended audience was this but then now he has spread into a much broader audience. So for you know, you have a story that has to be told. Why just restrict it to people that you know? The multiplier impact, you know, we just carry on. It's like you drop a pebble into a pond and then you find the ripple. Yeah. So in the same way I think I didn't expect it but now, now that I know it. You asked me, okay, it feels a bit good to know that your messages has gone up but it also gave me a little bit of pressure. I said, wow, then I must speak properly because they may not understand my singlish other than that the point is that your messages has the potential of going out and touching more lived than you ever think. So that's just very pretty exciting for me. Yeah.
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Genecia Alluora: Wait, wait, wait you mean your podcast was being picked up and presented as an example?
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Dr. John Tan: Yeah, yeah.
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Genecia Alluora: And how do you know that it was being picked up and presented did they tell you?
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Dr. John Tan: Yeah. Because I'm in the committee and what has happened is that. See the committee we are basically the older people but the younger people have come on they are interning and all that. So they are they were given the job of collecting, collecting resources and she, this lady actually wrote to me and it was kind of by the way kind of thing I said, oh, you know we need to gather just like we gathered your your podcast as an example. You did? I didn't know. So I went in to check say, yeah, it's there. So that potential I mean if I were to look at it the other way if I didn't do it then the opportunity will have never come. So you never know. So just take the leap and do it. Yeah.
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Genecia Alluora: Wow very inspiring. How come I don't know about all this until today? You didn't share with me. Secret agent.
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Dr. John Tan: Yeah, I forgot to tell you.
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Genecia Alluora: Yeah, but very good I'm very happy for you. I'm very glad that you, you have, Wow! so much results that I didn't even know of that's very amazing. And you just celebrate your birthday recently. We were all babies. So what was really on your, what is your next milestone and your legacy that you're looking?
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Dr. John Tan: Yeah, If i'm getting through on season two and then looking, I was just asking Genecia the other day, right? It was an ebook how's that how does the ebook get you know conceptualized or even be part of my legacy. So I think that's probably the thing that I'm looking out for now. Yeah.
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Genecia Alluora: Thank you so much for joining me today. I'm so honored that we are connected and I hope that I can continue to serve you as you build your dreams and if you love this episode and I hope that you did. Rate it five stars. Give us that glowing review because it will help more women around the world finding this Soul Rich Woman podcast. Alone you are strong, together we are unstoppable. Now share this with every woman who needs it because this is how we are changing the world. One woman at a time. As always get out of your comfort zone and go towards the dreams you've always wanted to achieve. For women who love the f word, being fabulous, having freedom, and financial independence, my dear Soul Rich Woman sending you my love and i'll speak to you soon. Bye for now.