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What is Man in America Podcast?

Seth Holehouse is a TV personality, YouTuber, podcaster, and patriot who became a household name in 2020 after his video exposing election fraud was tweeted, shared, uploaded, and pinned by President Donald Trump — reaching hundreds of millions worldwide.

Titled The Plot to Steal America, the video was created with a mission to warn Americans about the communist threat to our nation—a mission that’s been at the forefront of Seth’s life for nearly two decades.

After 10 years behind the scenes at The Epoch Times, launching his own show was the logical next step. Since its debut, Seth’s show “Man in America” has garnered 1M+ viewers on a monthly basis as his commitment to bring hope to patriots and to fight communism and socialism grows daily. His guests have included Peter Navarro, Kash Patel, Senator Wendy Rogers, General Michael Flynn, and General Robert Spalding.

He is also a regular speaker at the “ReAwaken America Tour” alongside Eric Trump, Mike Lindell, Gen. Flynn.

Seth Holehouse:

Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to Man in America. I'm your host, Seth Holehouse. So we've talked a lot about the pandemic, the pandemic, the pandemic two point o, which was supposed to be Marburg and Ebola. But now we're having all these discussions, and we're seeing on the main headline news that it's the avian flu, h one n one. And and what's happening is it's become zoonotic, which makes you think maybe it was made in a government lab perhaps, but they're saying it's now jumping to the cows.

Seth Holehouse:

It's gonna affect the milk supply. We've now got Michigan. Imagine that Michigan is now passing these new draconian, you know, rules there that you have to track and trace everything. You have to track what visitors are coming to the milk farm. And it looks like this is not only gonna be a ploy to get the vaccines into the cows and into the birds, but also to seize control of, you know, two of the most important food systems in America, you know, dairy, cow related food, whether it's beef you're eating, milk or cheese, and poultry.

Seth Holehouse:

Now these are two of the staples in America. So is this an attempt to seize control of that in addition to creating a new pandemic that making is making us scared to go out and vote in twenty twenty four election? There's a lot of things we have to unpack about this, but also how it ties into, this new AI warfare and how they're this multisystem approach of what they're using these these drones. We have we have a video to show you of these drones that are using to attack soldiers and actually how a Russian soldier literally threw a sack of potatoes at one of the drones to prevent it from killing him, which is kinda funny to talk about. But, also, then taking a look at the parallel economies that are developing.

Seth Holehouse:

Right? So as the this cabal moves out these systems to seize control of whether it's our milk or our chicken or education, etcetera, more and more people are just saying screw you. They're giving the government the finger, and they're forming their own small systems, which is inspiring. So joining us to talk about all this and a lot more is my good friend attorney Todd Callender. It's also gonna be a, I think, a positive interview.

Seth Holehouse:

So, obviously, some heavy stuff as usual, but we're gonna be getting into some things that I think will bring you hope, because they certainly bring me hope. So, folks, please enjoy the interview with attorney Todd Callender. Todd, I feel like it's been ages since you were last on, and I always enjoy having you on. So thank you for being here. It's great to see you.

Todd Callender:

It has been ages. I think it was actually cold outside. It's great to be here. Thanks for having me. Always

Seth Holehouse:

a You're in The Caribbean though. Was it cold for you or cold for me? It's up here in America.

Todd Callender:

Yeah. Brother, anything under 80 is cold.

Seth Holehouse:

We'll come visit sometime.

Todd Callender:

Yeah. Exactly. No. I like it here. Thank you.

Seth Holehouse:

Good. Good. So there's always a lot to talk about, and you're always focusing on, you know, a lot of stories that are breaking or soon to be breaking or that no one's even paying attention to that are really important. But I think one of the main topics for today is the what if wherever the next pandemic is. You know, we've talked about Marburg.

Speaker 3:

We talked

Seth Holehouse:

about the the the emergency broadcast, the EBS, whether that was gonna be tying into what was in the vaccines. There's there's a whole host of things that we've discussed. And a quick note for people that so I've had people in the past say, why is why is Todd have a Ukraine cup? Well, that happens to be the Barbados flag.

Todd Callender:

Barbados. Yeah. Barbados. Head office is in Barbados. It's a Barbados flag.

Seth Holehouse:

There you go. So what we have now, which is really making the rounds is this bird flu. Okay. So we have CDC coming out. This is a very recent article saying that the bird flu viruses pose pandemic potential.

Seth Holehouse:

Okay. So we have pandemic potential, but then we've also got this where they're saying that this is when okay. This is a on their recent article, they're tracking where the the counties where the avian flu has been detected in wild mammals since 2022. So if I if I remember correctly, this is what they're worried about. Right?

Seth Holehouse:

That it's it's basically that the that the bird flu is passing from birds to mammals, and now they're talking about the milk. We have another recent article which I'll pull up, and then I I wanna hand it over to you. Let's see here. In Michigan, this week, the emergency avian flu safety guidelines begin, which this is this is pretty worrisome. Now we know Michigan, regardless of what the political perspective is of is there, it seems like it's a testing, you know, testing ground Yes.

Seth Holehouse:

For draconian laws and everything. But Yes. So I wanna highlight here. This is this is frightening. So we're talking about here.

Seth Holehouse:

This is the Michigan farmers are responding to the new avian flu extraordinary emergency order from NDARD, which is their

Todd Callender:

Of course.

Seth Holehouse:

Department of Agriculture Agriculture and Rural Development. So they these guidelines affect all dairy and poultry operations. The guidelines include the designation of a biosecurity manager, establishing a perimeter that limits access to livestock, and implementing cleaning and disinfection procedures at those access point. So Yep. Here's what we have, again, which is even more worrisome.

Seth Holehouse:

It says the emergency guidelines also includes farms maintaining a record of vehicles and people who cross access points. So this is the okay. Tracking and tracing. Here it goes all over again. So what so you're the you you're really on top of this kind of stuff.

Seth Holehouse:

Where are we at with this bird flu? What do you see as the agenda behind it? What's really going on? What are your thoughts?

Todd Callender:

Well, they they actually, as they always do, they shared this with us in advance. It's in that FEMA document that I sent to you about biosecurity. They even mentioned it in that article because it's their playbook. And I hope that you'll allow people to see it. Just link it in.

Todd Callender:

They can see it for themselves. None of this stuff is classified. And so while we're all preoccupied with God knows what, they're always keeping us preoccupied. They're rolling out other phases of the attack of the agenda, all of which is to, number one, control us and number two, kill us. It's really that simple.

Todd Callender:

Killing seven or 8,000,000,000 people is no small task. So there's lots of different ways by which they accomplish this or try to accomplish this. And here's the great news, Seth. They tried the Marburg thing. You know what?

Todd Callender:

We got word out. Thanks in no small part to you and your listeners who did their job, which was to talk about it and share it around. And you know what? They abandoned the whole Marburg idea. Same thing with monkeypox, the same thing with all these other things, the emergency broadcast system.

Todd Callender:

It's when we know and confront and when we, with knowledge of forethought, say we're not going to be a part of it, that we force them to move on to the next thing. And so it may seem that this is futile, but it's not. I promise that the fact that there hasn't been a Marburg declaration, there's been a declaration, there hasn't been a Marburg pandemic. They declared it twice. They never rolled it out is because of this right here, what it is we're doing right now.

Todd Callender:

And here's the next one. So they instituted something called the One Health Initiative, whereby they've combined plant science and medicine along with animal health, veterinarian and human all into one homogenized function. The One Health Initiative. And basically it turns veterinarians into medical doctors, medical doctors into veterinarians and botanists. And so now they're they're now giving that very same power to Tedros Adnan per the pandemic treaty that he has already formulated.

Todd Callender:

Our government has already capitulated to, in fact, drafted in later days, I think the twenty eighth of this month, it becomes official that he has now got plenary power unbridled the world over, over anything to do with health whatsoever, including plant and animals. So we found some time ago, I sent you a copy of it, Lisa, one of our researchers dug up that they were creating zoonotic diseases. Zoonotic meaning that these pathogens could jump between species plants, animals, cows, chickens, us. Right. And they were giving cows tuberculosis so that the cows would give us tuberculosis and so on.

Todd Callender:

The latest one, of course, is H1N1. Again, it's a disease that our government created. It's it's maintained by the Department of Energy and it's zoonotic because it was designed that way so they can give it to the chickens as an excuse. Kill a billion chickens. No problem.

Todd Callender:

They did that already. But also because those chickens might give somebody else the fluids, it's appearing in milk. So I guess the cows got to go to, oh, and since humans drink that milk, it's a war on viruses or you're going to also have to die humans. That's all this is more of the same. And what you can see from that very document, Seth, is that they're controlling access to food, too.

Todd Callender:

Who's going on to that farm? Who's got control of those animals? Did you give your cows the mRNA shots? All of this is part of the same process, the procedure to kill us and genetically modify us every way they can. The good news is our farmers, right?

Todd Callender:

We depend on those people, have the ability to say, no, screw you They're armed. And by the way, have a talk with that county health official, with that USDA guy and say, hey, look, this is where this is at. This is what it's about. Given the FEMA playbook, it's right there. What it is they're doing, Bring them on sides because without law enforcement, there is no law.

Seth Holehouse:

So you see this as also an attack on the food system.

Todd Callender:

Yeah, of course.

Seth Holehouse:

Where they're going to be able to go in, potentially I mean, they've already been doing What what Yeah.

Todd Callender:

They're giving themselves authority.

Seth Holehouse:

You know, that they're killing, you know, hey. Here's they they they've called a million chickens at this location and a million chickens here and half a million chickens here. Billion. Also yeah. Exactly.

Seth Holehouse:

Get get up those big numbers. But now, the fact they're saying this is moving to the milk supply, which, I mean, what are we gonna say? Are they gonna say that, well, now, you know, cheese is coming off the shelves, milk is coming off the shelves, unless it's the official fully vaccinated. I mean, this is I mean, to me, it seems like a way of snubbing out anybody that that that doesn't fit in with their agenda. It doesn't Exactly.

Seth Holehouse:

Exactly. It's an excuse. Independent conservative business.

Todd Callender:

Seth, they have given on to themselves the power to eradicate humanity. And that's just the bottom line. They have given themselves the power to kill us. It's just a function of how they think they can get away with it without everybody rising up at the same time. So if they take us out a little at a time, cut off the food here and there, that's a well planned and executed starvation strategy.

Todd Callender:

Who did that? Stalin, Paul Pott, Mao Tse Tung, right? Been here before and they're just doing it again. And the funny part of this whole thing is they use the same old tired PCR test. Oh, the cows.

Todd Callender:

They they turned positive. The PCR test said so. And we know from Carrie Mullins, who invented the thing, that the PCR test can can find anything out of anything. And right now, we know that even in Tanzania, the Mogafube, the president of Tanzania, founded in a papaya, if memory serves. So it's just absurd.

Todd Callender:

And I just want to shake people say, wake up, are you really believing this? You for educating folks.

Seth Holehouse:

So I want to pull this article up one more time, because this this I think is a little bit of a premonition perhaps was when CDC comes out and saying that this the bird flu viruses, right, the h one n one, etcetera, post pandemic potential. Right? I mean, obviously, we've talked a lot about this, you know, the pandemic two point o. You know, we talked a lot about how is it gonna be Marburg and and all the things leading up to that, which seems like that it kind of fell apart, you know, quietly.

Todd Callender:

It did.

Seth Holehouse:

Right? And then there's

Todd Callender:

Thanks to you.

Seth Holehouse:

Look around and then yourself, of course. So do you do you think that again, this is election year. The you can see that there's riots all across the campuses, of course, you know, of course. Course. What they're rioting about funded by the same actors, you know, Soros, Rockefeller Foundation, etcetera.

Seth Holehouse:

You're creating unrest. We got the civil war movie. So they're they're they're trying to pull America apart at the seams. Of course. Right?

Seth Holehouse:

As, you know, had Alex Boominon talk about the poly crisis. Right? He's like, that's what he coming was the poly crisis. Right? It was the the riots, a pandemic, a foods supply, you know, maybe grid issues, all those things at once as this last ditch effort to kinda maintain this control they have over our country.

Seth Holehouse:

So do you think that this bird flu, this h one n one, do you see this as as perhaps the the the revamped version of Marburg as this is gonna be the attempt at pandemic two point o? And if so, how and how kind of inflated do you think this is gonna become? Do think this has become a really big thing where they're gonna start trying to implement draconian laws again because of this?

Todd Callender:

Of course. Of course, they will. They're they're out of options. First and foremost, if if your audience hasn't done it yet, go to antifa.com. Type it in www.Antifa.com and see where it takes you.

Todd Callender:

It kind of goes to your point about students having riots here and there. It seems counterintuitive as to people being on both sides of this issue at the same time. Any excuse for a riot will do. And of course, a lot of these are paid actors. They are there for a purpose, and that's to rile people up and cause trouble and to make the American public confused.

Todd Callender:

And this is no different as it relates to the One Health Initiative and H1N1 and all these scary names. Yes, absolutely. 100%. That's the whole point of this is to keep people on edge and not thinking about voting. And you'd never see the end of accusations against Mr.

Todd Callender:

Trump because it seems that more than anything, they want to stop that man from resuming the presidency. More than anything, they'll do anything. But having said all of that, every one of these things they're ruling out and they try to do has failed, even, for instance, trying to convince the Iranians to get into a nuclear holocaust and Vladimir Putin and everybody else. They're just not going with the program. People are wizening up.

Todd Callender:

They really, truly are. And if we can raise people's consciousness and just be aware of these things and noncompliance is the way it's worked so far, we're still here. Seth, we're still here. We're not supposed to be.

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Seth Holehouse:

The CDC warning coming out. Okay. This is potential, you know, pandemic, right, material that we're working So, yeah, I guess, like, let's let's war game it a little bit. Because so where I'm at, I'm in an area where I can buy raw milk. Okay?

Seth Holehouse:

So I have a local farmer that's five minutes away that Beautiful. Great Christian you walking up to the farm as a huge bible verse on on the side of the barn. I mean, great, great people, and I get my raw milk. I go in. You know, it's open twenty four hours.

Seth Holehouse:

It's an honor system. I go in. I put my money in an envelope. There's a whole, you know, fridge. Oh, cool.

Seth Holehouse:

With glass bottles with my name on it for that, you know, once a week. It's really, really cool. They've got local eggs. They've got local butter. I can pick out whatever I want and leave my money in an envelope and go.

Seth Holehouse:

Man, that's so It's a great system. So how do you think like, do you think that they're gonna start really clamping down on those kinds of systems across the country? And do you do you expect that farmers will comply? Or what do you

Todd Callender:

No. I don't. I I really don't. What you just said is a great example that people are wizening up to the point where the guy's even unconcerned. Here's the food if you need it and send me some money.

Todd Callender:

That's great. Or leave it behind. I think what happens is a lot of peaceful noncompliance Americans, despite the fact that we're the most armed country on the planet, this hasn't kicked off. People don't want a civil war and they're understanding that civil disobedience works. So I suspect when you see these one health people going out from the USDA or wherever else to the farmers, they're going end up with a lot of flat tires.

Todd Callender:

And after so many times of having flat tires, they're probably going to get tired of having to repair their tires. And when they complain to the local police or sheriffs, they may not be so inclined to do much about their flat tires. And so I think that frustration and I use that as an analogy, but I say that because things like that have happened and will happen and they do happen. And when people understand they're not going to go with the program, got one USDA guy with hundreds of square miles of farms to look after. And when they find out they're not welcome at any of them, they're looking at their food supply.

Todd Callender:

They're looking at their kids in school. They're looking at church being shunned, law enforcement not responding to them. They get ostracized. And that's where we're really at now that these regulatory thugs all of a sudden are having chilly receptions in their home. You know, wife isn't so happy anymore.

Todd Callender:

You're a thug. You're doing what? You're starving people. You're killing chickens. Don't you know?

Todd Callender:

And so it's this awareness that really matters, Seth. And when I say makes it no small part to you, I really mean that. You've done a tremendous job. Best of all is your audience, actually, you you've given them courage. They're not afraid to talk about this anymore.

Todd Callender:

And I I see it people in the food store, and they're talking in line about x, y, and z. Is that GMO? Did you look as a GMO? I mean, it's just fabulous. It's so encouraging.

Todd Callender:

It's inspiring to me.

Seth Holehouse:

It is. But how how do you think this fits into the vaccine program? Because okay. Obviously, people that can think for themselves, right, that hopefully aren't livestock. Right?

Seth Holehouse:

Though there's been a lot of comparisons of people being livestock. You know, a lot of us have said, I'm not gonna stick that thing in my body. I'm not gonna be taking your mRNA crap.

Speaker 3:

Right.

Seth Holehouse:

And actually, you know, for us, even, like, I there's a a local farmer, you know, where I buy my my beef from. But it's interesting. He's actually he's an Egyptian guy, and he runs an organic halal farm. Right? Which is it's like, it's the best beef that I've ever had in my life.

Seth Holehouse:

And I talked to him, and this guy, he used to work in finance. He used to work in finance, and then he saw, you know, back you know, ten years ago, he saw what was coming down the pipeline, and so got out, still works remotely, bought a bunch of land, started farming, and has this amazing he's Egyptian. He's a really great guy and his wife, and they've got this amazing farm with amazing beef, but so I'm I'm seeking these things out locally, but my concern is that the, you know, for a lot of Americans, they don't have a good beef farmer right down the door. Right? You know, down the So they're limited to buying, you know, Tyson or whatever it is at the at the supermarket, and maybe they're not seeking out their local farmers.

Seth Holehouse:

So the the question I have is that do you think that this will then this whole h one n one, part of this overall agenda is as a way to force mRNA into livestock. Right? Same way they're saying that, okay. If you don't have your vaccine passport in New York City, you can't come in the restaurant. Yep.

Seth Holehouse:

That maybe they're saying that, you know, if you don't have mRNA, you know, avian flu vaccinated cows, you can't sell milk to the public. Or, I mean, do you think that that's also part of this overall agenda?

Todd Callender:

Absolutely. Absolutely. In fact, it's already started. They've put that into the fake meat, for example, and mRNA required vaccines for cattle. It's been, I think, for at least a year now.

Todd Callender:

But I think what you're also finding is that there is a niche market and farmers know that they can and ranchers know that they can make more money when it's not that way. And other countries have other criteria. So imported stuff all happens. So it's really voting with our feet, voting with our dollars, and it works. And so I see right now that the Bill Gates fake meat thing is failing horribly.

Todd Callender:

People are now looking for even the meat glue. People are walking away from that. So I guess there's nothing you can do about the NPC types out there, the ones that are triple boosted and still looking forward to their next facts. They're going to fall for it. There's not a lot we can do about that if we haven't been able to wake them up here to four.

Todd Callender:

They're walking dead anyway or polymerized slaves, as the case may be. But for those of us that do care, and there's a great many of us, this is our opportunity. And I think as long as we stay cognizant, as long as we keep driving the narrative and the narrative is no screw you, you don't have any authority. Where's your oath of office? Show me you don't have any authority.

Todd Callender:

I think that we're going to be all right. So if people recognize what it is that they want and when they want it, there's always a market gets created. And this is the part that, you know, central bank digital currencies were supposed to be rolled out in 2018, according to The Economist magazine, which is it belongs to the Rothschild family. This was their their plan. What are we?

Todd Callender:

Holy cow. What are we? 2024. Really that late? They haven't been able to do it.

Todd Callender:

Why? Nobody wants it. So unless they could create the demand for it, it's not gonna happen. And we're in the same boat here.

Seth Holehouse:

One good point with this over on and you you touched on it, which I think it's worth highlighting is that what I what I see consistently this isn't to me, this this goes that this is like a principle of the universe as God created it. Right? Every action has an equal and opposite reaction. You go to the East, it's the yin yang. Right?

Seth Holehouse:

It's the balance of the yin and the yang. It's the balance of the good and the evil, and the whole Sure. Because I've I've studied a lot of Eastern philosophy, and one of the big parts is that when there's a good force that drives forward, an equal and opposite evil force will drive forward. But on the on the flip side, when there's a lot of evil driving forward, a lot of good also pushes back. Right?

Seth Holehouse:

So that, you know, so in, you know, kind of our modern, you know, science approach, it's, yeah, equal and opposite reaction. Right? If you push the wall, the wall pushes back. Right? Then that's that's the whole idea with that.

Seth Holehouse:

Whereas the eastern, they look at it as there's there's two types of fundamental matter. Right? There's yin and yang. Right? The the good and the evil, the the the up and the down, the reverse.

Seth Holehouse:

Right? So when you look at this happening, and you look at this this evil agenda of these people, especially looking just specifically with the the case of this h one n one, the attack on the farms, like, what they're doing is they're driving more and more people to that small local farmer. Like, so I was I go to milk farm. I talk to the owners of the milk farm. I say, how's business been for you?

Seth Holehouse:

Like, how how's it going? And they're like, doesn't matter whether it's them or other farmers I've gotten to know, the the message is consistent. Business is booming. Right? There's another little farm stand that that I go to that it's just another local farm.

Seth Holehouse:

There's a woman who runs it, and she had a little farm stand, let's say, five years ago. You know, you go there on a Saturday, and there's one or two people trickling in and out. Last year, because it's seasonal when it was open, I go there's a line of 15 people. So, like, this is what what what we're seeing though, especially here in America. Can say specifically that as they try to push us for these more draconian centralized control grid structures, more people are just giving them the finger and saying, I'm just gonna go get to know my local farmer.

Seth Holehouse:

And ultimately, that's how we resist. Right? Like, how do you resist? You stop using their system. I mean, I can see the future that if you need to get milk, you go to your local farmer, and you give them a an ounce of silver for the week, and that gets you all the milk you need and all the meat you need for that week.

Seth Holehouse:

And, you know, where's where's central bank digital currency in that? Right. Where's vaccine passport? There's nothing. Nowhere.

Seth Holehouse:

That's it.

Todd Callender:

And nor will it be. Nor will it be. And we can look at a live example of this. I just had some clients visit from Italy, and I knew about this, but I wanted to hear it from their own words. And so the short answer is this.

Todd Callender:

If you go to Sicily, there is two governments. There is the government of Italy and then there's the real government, which is the mafia that controls it. And if you pay the mafia their protection money, you have no problems from anybody. Nobody steals your stuff. Nobody bothers you from the government.

Todd Callender:

You don't pay taxes to them. You don't do anything. You just make sure these guys are happy and everything works. And I had a friend of mine went to Mexico in the middle of this whole COVID nonsense. And he basically spent two years there in this resort where they had everything, stores and everything.

Todd Callender:

Life went on, no mask, no nothing. It turns out it was run by the one of the cartels. Why? Because they're filling a niche. It's a market economy and they are big enough to stand up to the evil bureaucrats that try and take your tax money.

Todd Callender:

For what? What exactly are you getting in return for your tax dollars? Right? That's the analysis in the people that live in Sicily, which is nothing. The government takes you money, you get nothing in return.

Todd Callender:

And then they look at it and they say, well, at least if I pay the mafia guys, I get protection. I don't pay anybody else taxes. My life goes on. I don't have any problems. They're actually getting value.

Todd Callender:

And that's what happens is markets have niches and they have voids and voids get filled. And all this crazy bureaucracy does is create an opportunity. That's all it does. And so yes, your guys are going to flourish and I guarantee there'll be a protection racket somewhere where some guys will say, I'll be happy to stop the government guys from coming in. There's going to be a lot of flat tires Because that's how society works.

Todd Callender:

They can't do it. If we have knowledge, they can't do it. They're it's just not gonna work even with their stupid kamikaze drones.

Seth Holehouse:

Well, which is something that we should we should talk about. I mean, that that because that is well, it's okay. Looking at this this war that we're fighting, I feel like in a lot of ways, we are winning. Right? Because we're we're going

Mel K:

back to

Seth Holehouse:

systems that they can't control. We're rejecting their medicine. We're rejecting big pharma. We're we're homeschooling instead of putting our you know, shoving our kids off public schools for those who can. We're, you know, growing our own food.

Seth Holehouse:

We're, you know, turning our money into you know, we're converting into silver, into gold, into crypto, whatever. So there's this massive and it's pretty inspiring. Right? There's this massive movement. Yeah.

Seth Holehouse:

And it's not it's not a small thing. It's significant. Oh, The amount of people that are are moving, and and I just just in talking to random people, I was just you know? So, you know, we had a woman coming over for, you know, kind of a post birth follow-up for my wife. You know, we had a home birth with with a midwife and everything.

Seth Holehouse:

And as a woman came over and, you know, she you would look at her and think, oh, I'm not sure where she falls politically, and, you know, you you know, you wouldn't think much of it. We got talking, and she's a massive prepper, and she's like, oh, yeah. We got our food. We got our chickens. We got our gardens.

Seth Holehouse:

We've got, you know, food supply. We've got, you know, ways to protect ourselves, and and it's just your average person being much more of a common conversation to meet people that are on the same same way. Love that. Because people, they sense. Right?

Seth Holehouse:

Like, this I think this is one of again, I've said before, this is one of the greatest greatest weaknesses of this evil cabal is that they don't recognize that we have a soul and free will. They think there are these meat sacks that can be governed by AI and technology, and that's it. But actually, we've got the greatest it's not it's not artificial intelligence. We've got you know, it's it's GI. It's God intelligence.

Seth Holehouse:

Like, that's what designed us. Right? They've got their artificial intelligence. We've got God's intelligence behind us.

Todd Callender:

It's so true. And I got to tell you, as you're talking about, I sent you this video, and I just find it so liberating. It's really cool that Ukraine has become a meat grinder and it's really a testing environment for new warfare AI. You just mentioned it, right? Artificial intelligence.

Todd Callender:

And this Russian guy was defending against a kamikaze drone. There are kamikaze drones. They're testing him there. And it took a freaking sack of potatoes to stop the AI. Watch this.

Todd Callender:

This is crazy, man. Hello.

Seth Holehouse:

So for people that are listening on the podcast, they can't see it, but there's a video that a little white drone you can see flying towards the soldier. He picks up a sack of potatoes, throws it at the drone. The drone blows up, and he walks away. Probably somewhat unscathed. They might have some, you know, some straps

Todd Callender:

on his cheek. He was on fire for a little bit, but he got he got away. I guess this is the point. That's the human spirit you're talking about. We know that Google turned on the mesh network two Wednesdays ago.

Todd Callender:

What does that mean? It means that every MAC address, 16 digit MAC address is now connected to every other one. So what that means is all the vaxxed people, now there's IEEE, the gangsters that make all this into a standard. So every MAC address is now hooked into every other one through the mesh network. So Google turned it all on two Wednesdays ago.

Todd Callender:

What does that mean? It means all the Vax people are now hooked into every Android device and and they're already using people for cloud computing and power sources. Think I demonstrated that for you already. There's a website called inpersona.com that's already using people's biorhythms to buy cryptocurrency, just like the Bill Gates patent 6,006 said. And so, anyway, the point is

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Todd Callender:

That even though these addresses are hooked in, that's probably how that kamikaze drone was zeroing in on that soldier, because that's the kind of testing they're doing over there. Oh, there you go. Utilizing people's bio rhythms, their their MAC address or their wireless body area network to program these drones to go after them specifically. And so that guy defeated that. There are other ways to do it.

Todd Callender:

Mining machine.

Seth Holehouse:

Using proof of sensing technology, you can now mine Vivo coin with your heartbeat.

Todd Callender:

Yeah, right now. This is is the Bill Gates patent 2020060606, mark of the beast. This is the Bill Gates patent in use right here, right now. They're using people's bio rhythms to do cloud computing and as a power source. That's it right there.

Todd Callender:

So in any event, despite all of this is what I'm trying to say, Seth, despite all of this, humanity carries on. We survive sometimes with something as little as a sack of potatoes. I do have really good advice from one of my clients that escaped communism four times in his life, he said, always keep enough gold to bribe the border guards. Those are wise words. Interesting.

Seth Holehouse:

Sack of potatoes to throw at the drink.

Todd Callender:

Yeah, you bet.

Seth Holehouse:

I mean, just to grow. And that's that's a

Todd Callender:

bet.

Seth Holehouse:

Funny point. Potatoes before. You know, those potatoes, how does potatoes, you leave them and they're you go into the cupboard and they got little roots growing out of them. You're like, oh, potatoes are bad. You can take them and come up into little quarters.

Seth Holehouse:

You you plant them. And next season, you've got more potatoes you know what to do with.

Todd Callender:

Exactly right. That's exactly right. And a sack of potatoes will get you through. So it's not too hard to prep with potatoes and use them for drones in your spare time.

Seth Holehouse:

So tell us more about this mesh network because this is something that I I think it's it's a multi pronged attack, whereas I see that and I think they know this too. They they've war gamed this out probably decades and decades ago that they knew that that what would be happening now was going to be happening, that we're gonna be resisting. We're gonna be forming small local communities. We're gonna be pulling kids out of the school, doing all the things that we talked about before. Again, you know, moving our our money from from cash and and bank account numbers and IRAs into physical, assets, gold, silver, seeds, brass, etcetera.

Seth Holehouse:

So they foresaw that. So I think that the my assumption and my, you know, kind of understanding of it is that they also put in all these fail safes fundamentally using technology to try to install these operating systems in us so they can hijack our bodies, remove our free will, change our DNA, you know, cut us off from God and and how they view it. And that am I correct in in understanding that fits in directly this mesh network. Right? So explain that more for us and what happened this past these past two Wednesdays ago.

Todd Callender:

Well, first and foremost, yes, that's exactly what the plan was, and that's why they needed everybody to take the shots. There's a hardware installation. The software installation already happened with the disease itself. Again, SARS CoV-one, SARS CoV-two were made by our government and they were designed to make our wireless body area networks more accessible. And so that was a software installation, but the mesh network depended on hardware and those little chips and whatnot.

Todd Callender:

It's now well known that that's what was in these shots. And if you got the shots, then theoretically you could be hooked into this network. However, my understanding is it wasn't just one or two shots that they were looking put people on a monthly cycle, that you had to get these shots every month. So there seems to be some level of degradation that also happens over time in terms of the efficacy of these chips. I guess your body must have some level of natural immunity that destroys them over time.

Todd Callender:

And people are taking remedial steps up. I mean, really busy. A lot of docs are getting these things out of people's bodies. So they're disabling this whole plan anyway. And it's really just a function of once we know about it, what can we do with that?

Todd Callender:

But you said it exactly right. The mesh network is another means of communication. And so what they effectively did is use something called low energy Bluetooth to connect and talk to all the different devices. So when you think your iPhone or your Android phone is asleep or turned off, it's not. It's actually sending out pulses, Bluetooth pulses to talk to every other device around it.

Todd Callender:

And the low energy Bluetooth can go as far as a kilometer to find another device. They just piggyback, bing, bing, bing across the planet through these different MAC addresses. And so packages of data being transmitted through the low energy Bluetooth without you even knowing it. And so this is one of the things we had come to find in our case against the DoD. That was the catalyst to this whole thing.

Todd Callender:

We found out they'd use something called an InTouch eDiary PCR device that was reading the biorhythms of people in real time through their Fitbits and their phones. That's exactly how it was. They had the software and the hardware installation for these 44,000 service members and family. This information was getting transmitted. We thought it was through the cell phone and actually it is, but it was also being done through this piggybacking enterprise low energy Bluetooth.

Todd Callender:

So now what we're finding is it's been hooked in already to the hospital. So now they have a medical application. There are nurses at this very moment. They are monitoring patients down the hall, other side of the hospital, because they're reading their MAC addresses on their device. So whatever their biorhythms are, what's their heart rate, all of these kinds of things.

Todd Callender:

Now we know network analysts that are in the process of installing the ability to control people through these 16 digit MAC addresses with the very same tablet that the nurse has 50 meters away. So that technology is coming. But what is it dependent upon? It's dependent upon that hardware installation. And we have the ability to say, no, we're not taking any more of your shots.

Todd Callender:

I don't care about bird flu. Bring it. Nobody has said bird flu, by the way, is fatal. Not once have I heard anybody say it's fatal. They're making everybody worried about the flu.

Todd Callender:

Really? Screw that. We don't have to go with it. We don't have to. We don't have to cooperate, Seth.

Todd Callender:

It's just not.

Seth Holehouse:

So when do you see okay, let's let's take like the, you know, 10,000 foot view of this is that there's this this evil group of people that have control over a lot of governments are working hand in hand that they're, you know, the military industrial complex, the the media, the corporations are insanely well funded tying into these banker bloodlines, and, you know, we're not gonna be getting into that the details of that, but we can paint the picture of this this very powerful big apparatus that is trying to gain control over the world's population, you know, through Yeah. Two means. Through calling us, and just reducing the world's population, and then finding ways of controlling those who are still here. Right? Now controlling from various means, police states like we see in Australia, Canada Yeah.

Seth Holehouse:

You know, technocracy, you know, digital AI, transhuman, you know, fourth industrial revolution type control. So we see this this power play of them trying to do this, trying to kill us, trying to kill Now the the their threat, you know, I guess, one one of the the major strengths that they have is that the vast majority of people in the past didn't know they existed and didn't know they're trying to carry out this plan.

Todd Callender:

That's right.

Seth Holehouse:

That was what enabled them to operate for so long because no one knew about them because it was so hidden.

Todd Callender:

That's right.

Seth Holehouse:

If you mentioned it, it's like, oh, you're a conspiracy theorist. We talk about the Illuminati. Right? You'd be mocked for it. Right?

Seth Holehouse:

Because they they they design these words and, you know, in the work in Fuck the more. So we're entering into a phase though of more and more people now understanding that this is the scenario, that there is this group of people, and there's different names and different, you know, kind of ideas and ways of understanding them, and there's simple ways and complex ways, but there is this group of people that are trying to do this. And so, like what you and I are doing, we're trying to get more and more people aware of the fact that, hey, there's this small group that's trying to kill us. Don't fall for the distractions. Don't think it's your neighbor.

Seth Holehouse:

You know, don't fall for the political divide. This is the real picture of what's going on. So Yeah. How do you see this unfolding, though? Because what I'm seeing is they're trying and trying and trying.

Seth Holehouse:

And now I I feel like twenty twenty and the theft of twenty twenty election and COVID was almost like their last hurrah. Like, they put 95% of their energy into trying to make that their last move in this war, and I think by and large, it failed in many ways. And so now they're scrambling. So Uh-huh. How do you see this playing out?

Seth Holehouse:

Do you how do you see and this is much more of a, I guess, more almost a philosophical question of Sure. What what does their end look like? I mean, can how long can they continue doing this until the people rise up? I I mean Yeah. Where does this go?

Todd Callender:

Well, first and foremost, we've actually won in many respects. There's a good argument that we have, and it's really this. How many bites at the apple does somebody normally get before? Okay, you're done. You're done with your attempts.

Todd Callender:

You said just now over the course of the last couple of minutes, the word trying 12 times. How many bites at the apple is that? The 12 bites at the apple? They're trying, trying, trying because they haven't succeeded. You've kind of made the point.

Todd Callender:

So if you look at, they've lost control already. This is already the case. So if you look at, for instance, how desperate do the owners have to be to work towards an Iranian nuclear holocaust to get Vladimir Putin to launch, even at this moment, tactical nukes. Any excuse will do. We need a nuclear war and they can't get anybody go along with the program.

Todd Callender:

Right. Even these enemies that have all these weapons and whatnot, even they are going, really? You're you're trying that again. So it's because so obvious. So the way is they're they're effectively the way that this rolls out is they're alienating themselves.

Todd Callender:

All they're doing is making themselves more obvious and more redundant. So what do we need them? And this is this is the concern that I have. All voids will be filled. So the only question that comes as a result of this is who fills that vacuum?

Todd Callender:

Because it's going to be one or more people. Is it going to be organized crime? They call it organized because they are organized. Right. They know how to run governments.

Todd Callender:

They're running Sicily. They're running Mexico. They used to run parts of China before that. So organized crime will come in and fill that void. Or do Americans and people of this planet fill that void ourselves?

Todd Callender:

And we get rid of these bastards despite they're trying to steal the election. Right. It's up to us. It's always been up to us. And at this moment in time, we're doing pretty damn good because we're still here, and they're still trying.

Seth Holehouse:

Folks, I have a quick message for you. Look, the twenty twenty four election is do or die for the globalist and communists that had infiltrated our country and are currently running it. And they either have to win or they're gonna destroy America so nothing is left either way. And if you're the person that's watching this show and following this information, unfortunately, you have the weight on your shoulders of making sure that your family is prepared, especially as we head in to this next year and this next election cycle because unfortunately, I think it's going to get rough. And one of the ways I know they're going to target us is through our food supply.

Seth Holehouse:

You can see all the food factories burned down, you can see the warnings of coming famines and food shortages and everything like that. And food is one of the number one ways totalitarian regimes have always used to control the populations destroy the food supply. So if you don't have at least two, three, four, five, six months worth of stored food, I highly recommend you take that very seriously. Because look, as I mentioned, if you're the person that's watching this, you're the person that carries the burden of making sure your family is prepared. I would recommend at least six months, if not a year of storable food.

Seth Holehouse:

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Seth Holehouse:

And getting into the election, what do you think will happen? What what's your

Speaker 3:

Yeah.

Seth Holehouse:

Prediction? Because it's obvious they're trying everything possible to

Todd Callender:

That's right.

Seth Holehouse:

Imprison Trump, get rid of him. He's That's right. Obviously and then simultaneously, they're ignoring RFK junior as much as possible to keep him out of his minds. Right? Yes.

Seth Holehouse:

And and but then you look at the you know, even what the polls are saying about Biden, which I think are lying, my guess is that Biden maybe has 15% support, you know, maybe something like that.

Todd Callender:

Maybe.

Seth Holehouse:

If we're to act the ass of the average American. Doubt it. Even people I know that were staunch liberals that hated Trump and were so happy that Biden got in are now telling me they regret it. And they're not saying they love Trump, but they're saying that they hate Biden now. Right?

Seth Holehouse:

Because they they lived with it. So with all of that coming in, but also with this massive apparatus and all the illegals coming across the border and

Todd Callender:

Yes.

Seth Holehouse:

I mean, what do you see playing out in the election? Because it's that's it's a big toss-up to me.

Todd Callender:

I think there's some really wonderful things happening in this regard. I have been deeply concerned that, people were throwing all of their hope and their weight behind Mr. Trump as though he were a God. And they didn't want to hear blah, blah, blah, blah. I don't want to hear about the fact that he he declared the national emergency.

Todd Callender:

I don't want to hear that that he said, go get your shots. That's changed a lot. And despite that changing, I think he is still the guy that people will ensure sits in that seat if for no other reason than to frustrate the progress of those who seek to destroy us. Because it was him sitting in that chair for four years that caused us the ability to understand what was happening, to see the effect of these stupid rules we didn't know anything about, these laws going into effect, Tedros being a world dictator. We didn't know any of those things until Mr.

Todd Callender:

Trump sat there and made it all look really obvious. And so we owe him that debt of gratitude. And I think he walks back into the White House with a very healthy majority. I think you'll see the the ones coming across the border, they'll support Mr. Biden because that was the trade they made.

Todd Callender:

Right. Here's your ticket to citizenship and come in and vote for the for the guy. Okay. But that's not enough. It isn't enough to do the job.

Todd Callender:

And I think Mr. Trump will come back in with a very healthy dose of those who elected him of skepticism. And they're going to hold his feet to the fire and they're going to want to see people held accountable. We're looking for a reckoning. And if he doesn't do that job, I think The United States will go the way Ecuador did.

Todd Callender:

They they actually fired six presidents in one year. They went through them like this until they found one that they wanted, which happened to be Korea. And he lasted for fifteen or twenty years. The point is, people know. And even Mr.

Todd Callender:

Trump, who everybody will be happy to see stop the Ford momentum, is going to be held accountable. So this is a new age, a new dawn, humanity survives. God bless you all.

Seth Holehouse:

And how do you reconcile as it relates to Trump? Because I've put a lot of thought in this. I mean, you know, talked a lot about this. How do you reconcile his support of the vaccines? And even him coming out and saying that the vaccines are curing cancer, which is almost like, it's almost like it's it's pouring salt into one of the biggest wounds, whereas, you people like you and I know the vaccines are causing turbo cancer.

Seth Holehouse:

And I'll I'll throw out a caveat too that, you know, for me, personally, I wanna see Trump get back into office. Right? And I've got I've got a handful of reasons. Is he perfect? Absolutely not.

Seth Holehouse:

But I do think that he represents the greatest path, the opportunity that we have to go back to some semblance of America, what America was that's founding. Right? Getting back to those those close core values. Right? And to me, that's what

Todd Callender:

Good point.

Seth Holehouse:

That's what matters. I don't look at him as being a globalist. Now, you know, getting into his relationship with Israel and Kushner, and those are things that it's hard to make sense of sometimes, and obviously, his support of the vaccine. But it's like, okay. What what's our other option?

Seth Holehouse:

Right? I mean Yes. You know, I think RFK has some really good things that he stands for, but, like, look at his vice president and her ties to Google. Yeah. You know, there's some things that I definitely don't trust.

Seth Holehouse:

Right? I so but how do you make sense of that? How do you make sense of his role with the vaccine and and his continued support of it?

Todd Callender:

I don't. I don't at all. I would really like for him to explain himself. But I also know as a lawyer, he can't do that at this moment in time, that the deck is stacked against him. And frankly, my suit had really something to do with that for all of these gangsters, because when we served it on the DOD, HHS and the FDA with extraordinary evidence saying everything we've been talking about the last three years, we put in to a temporary restraining order.

Todd Callender:

Hey, stop this. These shots killed all the test animals. These shots did all kinds of horrible things. You're putting antifreeze in people's arms. Don't do this.

Todd Callender:

What that did is it put them on notice officially. And so they they really couldn't back track and say, I didn't know, because legally they did know from that point on. So any time that they say anything other than their original narrative, they're just creating legal hazards for themselves, culpability. And so they're not going to address those issues because if they do address those issues, they're going to get into criminal legal trouble. And none of them want that.

Todd Callender:

Obviously, some do, some don't. But I mean, I'm talking about the people who who were in government at that time. They've got serious legal problems, particularly everybody in the DOD. But the government generally, they knew officially they knew and then they acted like they didn't know. So that's why you see them saying these stupid things, because they can't do anything other than that for their own self protection.

Todd Callender:

Where does it go? I don't know, Seth. All I know is that Mr. Trump gave Americans the the freedom, the right to be proud of being Americans, to love our country again, because I don't know if people remember, but the era during Obama, all he did was teach everybody how to hate America, how to hate ourselves and self loathing. And Mr.

Todd Callender:

Trump brought some totally different back. He brought Americana back. And if he brings that spirit with him again, we'll figure it out. And that's what our founders knew that if we if we had the right tools, and if we had the truth, we'd figure it out. And that's what we're doing right now.

Todd Callender:

That's the importance of what it is you do.

Seth Holehouse:

And I think that when you mentioned the spirit of America, that's the greatest threat. It's it's the idea. It's it's the idea. It reminds me of inception. You know, they they talk about how an idea is is it can be a cancer.

Seth Holehouse:

Like, that's the the most dangerous thing is an idea because it can spread, and you and you can't stop it. And that's what I think it that's I think that's the the greatest threat to them is that they have tried for centuries, really, especially the last hundred years, last fifty years especially, they've tried to get us to forget who we are. They've tried

Speaker 3:

That's right.

Seth Holehouse:

To make us forget what America is. They've tried to demonize the founding fathers, to demonize the constitution, to demonize the the the Christian values this country was built upon, and that's the threat to them. And and that's the thing is that, you know, for people, you know, that, you know, talk about Trump, love him or hate him, go read the seventeen seventy six commission report. I'm not sure if you've ever read it. It's one of the most beautiful documents I've ever read, talking about how important it is to bring back education about 1776 and the founding of our country back into this back into our school system and back into the into just Yeah.

Seth Holehouse:

Our way of life. Like, I imagine Yeah.

Todd Callender:

Pledge of

Seth Holehouse:

you you look at now, we've got Pride Month. Like, I could see Trump coming back in and say, okay, July is America month, and the entire month of July is gonna be massive celebrations of America and reviving it. I think that and I think that's honestly the greatest threat to them because America the idea of America, the idea that our founding fathers threw off tyranny, rejected tyranny, even

Todd Callender:

That's right.

Seth Holehouse:

3% tax. Right? Which is, you know Right. What where we are now. Like, that's the threat, and that and that's what, like, I want to with what I'm doing.

Seth Holehouse:

I know with what you're doing. I wanna try to bring that back to people. Like, bring back this pride that, you know, like, the the so people are walking around wearing an American flag on their lapel.

Todd Callender:

Love

Seth Holehouse:

that. Like, bring back the love. You know? And actually, recently, I put a a new flag up in my house. It's one of the old style flags with the 13 stars with seventeen seventy six in the middle of that.

Seth Holehouse:

And I'm so proud every time I see that flag, you know, flying in the front yard, and and that's what's I think that's what's coming back. And you see it too. You can see all these different instances across these college campuses where people are protecting the American flag, whether it's students or police. And, you know, so there's there's something pretty amazing happening in America right now. And and Yeah.

Seth Holehouse:

There is. That honestly is what gives me the most hope.

Todd Callender:

I agree with you. And as you're talking about it, I'm sitting there thinking about Tennessee now is a raft of new laws, no chemtrails going over. I think they said they have to have the Pledge of Allegiance every morning in their schools, all kinds of really cool stuff like that. And it's not just Tennessee. So you are seeing it.

Todd Callender:

And I guess that's the other part for people to remember is that we get fooled into thinking that this federal government paradigm is the end all be all. The federal government doesn't exist but for the states, the tenth Amendment to the Constitution. And you see what Texas is standing up. The federal government, you can abandon your borders if you want to. We're not going to.

Todd Callender:

And other states are jumping in. So they're finding that too. They're finding their own power. And how? Because people are demanding it.

Todd Callender:

You will do that. This is my home, my territory. I'll defend it. And now we're seeing that. So it's popular again to be patriotic.

Todd Callender:

Isn't that great? Isn't that wonderful? I guess that's what mister Trump will bring to it. Look at his rallies. Right?

Todd Callender:

They're all out there flying American flags, not Soviet or PRC flags. So if we're going the right way, I think.

Seth Holehouse:

I couldn't agree more. So Todd, before we sign off, give us an update on Cloud Hub and some of the things that you're working on.

Todd Callender:

Yeah, thank you. So Cloud Hub is coming. Finally, we've got Cloud Hub Meets, which is a private video conferencing. There's no recording. And as always, it's about privacy and freedom.

Todd Callender:

We don't keep any data. We don't want any data. You don't have to tell us who you are. We don't care. So if you want to come have an intellectually honest, robust debate, the marketplace of ideas, CloudHub is the place to do that.

Todd Callender:

And then I'll be bringing another major lawsuit this in the coming months. And it'll be a global one. It'll be a global class action lawsuit. It will be for the purpose of trying to recover damages for everybody that has been subject to the electronic prison around us. And we'll use CloudHub to help support that and register people as part of the plaintiff's class.

Todd Callender:

Thank you very kindly. That's it. You can ditch Zoom, who claims all of their data is sorry, all of your data is theirs. We don't keep it. You keep your data if you want it.

Todd Callender:

You don't have to record if you don't want to. So come to CloudHub. It's the last vestige of freedom. No censorship. We won't tolerate it.

Todd Callender:

And we're privately owned, so nobody's gonna force us to do it, including BlackRock, like Rumble. Thank you for the shameless shameless promotion.

Seth Holehouse:

Of course. So so right now, people can go to meetings.cloudhub.com. So say for folks that run a small business or say they have a a you know, a lot of people have weekly Patriot meetings or, know, monthly meetups. So they can, as of right now, come and start using meetings.clouthub.com for Right. Where they know that it's like, okay.

Seth Holehouse:

Is Todd BlackRock? No. This is Todd right here. This is the guy that's that can say

Todd Callender:

That's right.

Seth Holehouse:

And say, look, you know, you put your stamp on this that this is a Patriot owned company that's built. Again, this is the same thing. Like, this is the same thing as going to your local farmer. Right? Now, your local farmer can can offer you a Zoom solution for, you know, video conferencing, but another Patriot's doing the same thing.

Seth Holehouse:

And so this is this is your solution for that. So

Todd Callender:

makingit.clouthub.com.

Seth Holehouse:

And is it is it how does it work? So you have a free or that there's Yeah.

Todd Callender:

You can try it out. You can try it out for free or it's cheap. $15 a month. And and and Seth, thank you for making the the analogy to a small farm. Look, we've paid for this out of our pockets.

Todd Callender:

We didn't take money from BlackRock or anybody else. And so this is really expensive and it takes time to get it all right. But we've got it. And so it's always constantly trying to improve it. So there's always growing pains.

Todd Callender:

It's kind like when you go to the farmer, your butter may not be perfectly rectangular, but it's real butter. So same thing here. The one thing we promise you and we actually built that meeting website with 400,000,000 Chinese and Persian Christians in mind, they get used for body parts for going to Bible studies. We built this so that when the meeting is done and you turn it off, it never happened. The bad guys, the Chinese secret police can show up and look at your computer and know that you were on the Internet, but they wouldn't have any clue what you were doing on the Internet.

Todd Callender:

So, yeah, this is the ultimate in privacy for that very reason.

Seth Holehouse:

Incredible. Well, Todd, thank you for what you're doing. Thank you for coming on. It's it's always it's always great speaking with you, And I and I'll put I'll put the link to the CloudHub meetings in there. I mean, obviously, not everyone has a reason to use a Zoom, you know, type thing, but if you're looking for ways of of, you know, if you are using Zoom or Google Meetings or whatever it is, Microsoft Teams, this is this is gonna be a great solution.

Seth Holehouse:

So I hope more people can can join the free option or even better if they wanna sign up. It's, know, especially if have a business. Right? It's it's such a Yeah. Business expense, and it supports what you're doing.

Todd Callender:

Well, you know, if you think about it, lawyers and doctors, hospitals, they have patient and client privacy obligations that they're not meeting. If you're using Google or Zoom, you are failing in your ethical obligations to maintain people's privacy. Not so with us. So, yeah, if you have a need, come to us. Thank you, Seth.

Todd Callender:

I mean, for that, but thank you for everything, man.

Seth Holehouse:

Of course.

Todd Callender:

I mean, my god. America listens to you. You've you've done so much for us. I'm honored to be with you.

Seth Holehouse:

Thank you, Todd. It's always great speaking with you. And and even though these topics that we talk about are dark and scary and dystopian, there's always this ray of sunshine. Right? That that's what's happening.

Seth Holehouse:

There's always this ray of sunshine that's not is not covered up by chemtrails. It still gets through in our discussions.

Todd Callender:

That's right, brother. Like I said, we're still here. God bless you and your family. Thank you for what you do.

Seth Holehouse:

Of course. Thank you, Todd. Alright, folks. I hope you enjoyed the interview. I've now got a really good, pretty short interview, maybe twenty, twenty five minutes or so with doctor Joel Brynd, talking about inflammation, pain, things that probably affect most of us, unfortunately, even even me in my thirties still dealing with these things.

Seth Holehouse:

So folks, please enjoy the interview. Doctor Brynd, it's such a pleasure to have you back on the show again. Thank you so much for being here today.

Speaker 3:

Great to be here again. Thanks.

Seth Holehouse:

Absolutely. So we had you on recently, and we did a whole interview talking about pain management, inflation, and I'm sorry, not inflation, cover so much financial, inflammation, I guess, and if we can solve inflammation and inflation, then we're set. And so, but so your your background, so you're the you're the man behind Sweetamine, and I'm you know, whenever I I work with a potential advertiser, I do a lot of due diligence. I really look into not just the the product, but also the background, and I I find that there's also because the, you know, conservative or right wing media were so ostracized. Look at what's happened to Mike Lindell with advertisers pulling out the censorship that, you know, a big part of it is, okay, who's the person behind this, and why are they choosing to work with people like me?

Seth Holehouse:

Because, you know, most advertisers that you'd see on your typical mainstream, you know, podcast or media company would say, oh, that guy, we don't like him because he's he's one of those conspiracy theorists. Right? So let me let me start there actually before getting into some of the details of of, you know, your your business and what you do. But what is it that's, you know, within you that's made you want to work with people like me that are, I would say, fearlessly trying to bring the truth to people and not following the mainstream narrative?

Speaker 3:

Well, that's basically it. Trying to bring truth to people. My my interest is a scientist, and I decided that I wanted to be a scientist and learn about things like cancer and heart disease and all of those things when I was 10 years old. And it's always been a quest for truth for me. So our like mindedness on this is just of a piece with the whole political and general worldview.

Speaker 3:

I mean, most of the mainstream, the trouble with the mainstream is not that they're mainstream, but that there's there's a lot of dishonesty there. There's a lot it's all about a particular agenda. As a matter of fact, going through the going all my education and research and everything like that in business over the years, I've adopted a maxim about credibility, which is to say, always believe everyone. To act according to his nature and his loyalty. Always observe very carefully to find out what those are.

Speaker 3:

And you find that you can You can't trust everybody for what they say necessarily, but you can find out where people are at. They will find ways of telling you. And you just need to be observant. In science, one might say that this discovery, and it is a great discovery, and I've been wanting to share it with the world since that happened in about 2010, really. The great moments, if you will.

Speaker 3:

But it's always been about sharing the truth, sharing these discoveries. You might say that I have made a career out of researching and studying things that other people overlook, and so the basis of this product of sweetamine is the very very simple fact of what inflammation is and how the body controls it. So for example, sweetamine is not a product like there are other products that fight inflammation. Sweetamine does not fight inflammation, it stops inflammation because it controls the master switch which is missing or inadequate due to basically dietary factors in the modern world. Fundamentally, it also is about a particular nutrient, glycine, which has been overlooked precisely because it has been called non essential.

Speaker 3:

It's not non essential. There are a few other researchers around the world who understand that it is essential. They don't quite understand the universality of its application to bodily processes. Now at least science in general, the scientific establishment does understand that it is chronic inflammation, or in some cases acute inflammation like in COVID. But inflammation gone haywire which is what is responsible for everything from ordinary aches and pains to arthritis to diabetes to heart disease to cancer to Alzheimer's disease to autism from before the cradle to the grave.

Speaker 3:

And they understand that. What they don't understand is the actual process of inflammation. And they don't understand how the controlling of the process is by a nutrient which is actually essential. So this process, if you look it up on Wikipedia or any textbook or any source about inflammation, it will tell you that it is the body's first response to infection or injury. Whenever there are cells that die, the cells of the immune system called macrophages, big eaters it means from the Greek, but these are the first responder cells of the immune system.

Speaker 3:

They come around and they cause inflammation which is supposed to be part of the healing response, and then it's supposed to be self limiting and then it stops and then everything's healthy. The problem is that definition of the function of inflammation, it is a natural response to infection or injury is the half truth. It's only a natural response to infection, not injury. If you sprain your ankle and it gets all inflamed, swelling, the pain, immobility, all of those aspects that we all are familiar with, with acute inflammation, that happens. But why does that happen?

Speaker 3:

What does the immune system do? What's it doing causing inflammation which is really the secretion of poisons, things like antiseptics internally in order to kill that infection that came in before it kills you. Well wait a minute, if it's a blunt injury or a sunburn or any other cause of cell death that has nothing to do with infection, why do you get inflammation? No good reason. It's a nutritional deficiency.

Speaker 3:

This was the great discovery really. It's the two, it's that nutritional deficiency and also the fact about inflammation. And I had a couple moments back in 2010, as I mentioned before in 2010. I fell four feet onto a concrete floor directly onto my tailbone, And it really hurt like hell for about thirty seconds. And then over the next minute or two, was able to hobble around to finish what I was doing.

Speaker 3:

And that night, my wife and I had tickets to dinner dance, and we decided to go anyway, and we decided to dance anyway. That was okay. And the next morning, I felt perfectly okay, except I had a huge bruise on my lower back, which was the evidence that there was this great fall from which I completely recovered without any inflammation. And then that same year, I think you would know this being a New Yorker, my brother-in-law scored us tickets to a Yankee game in the new Yankee Stadium. They had just built it in in o nine, and here it was the next year.

Speaker 3:

I finally got a chance to go. It was a great day. It was the June near the solstice. Not a cloud in the sky, not an obstruction in the stands, nice new ballpark. And around the fifth inning, I started to notice I was feeling a little warm around my thighs.

Speaker 3:

Now I noticed then that right wherever my body was unprotected, and I wasn't wearing a hat, just a t shirt and shorts, I was like a boiled lobster. I hadn't done this to myself since I was in my teens, and I knew I was certain, 100% certain I was going to be for the next couple of days in excruciating pain doing simple things like bathing, dressing, undressing. That happened. I got in the shade, it started to go away, it continued to fade away, and there was no damage. So all of that pain and difficulty that you get after a sunburn, and probably also things like skin cancer, only happen not as a result of sun damage, but as a result of the immune system's reaction to the sun damage from secondary inflammation.

Speaker 3:

And I learned this because I had been experimenting with glycine because excuse me. I had been working in amino acid biochemistry with a group that was studying aging, basically looking at amino acids, they were looking at another amino acid called methionine which is an essential amino acid. What led me to glycine was that other researchers had noticed that glycine is used to get rid of excess methionine. So the dietary difficulty that we're in now in general, the general omnivorous diet, meat, fish, poultry, vegetables, fruits, everything. The problem is that when you talk about the animal protein part of it, it's basically muscle meat.

Speaker 3:

Muscle meat is rich in methionine and very poor in glycine. Methionine is essential, but as we do in the modern era now as we eat so much more meat than we need, we have a very very high meat protein intake. That what your liver does instead of recycling the methionine like we all learned in biochemistry about the methionine cycle and how essential it is and how the body needs to recycle it. Well because the body is so good at recycling methionine, it doesn't need much. And whenever there's more, it gets rid of it.

Speaker 3:

The trouble is to get rid of every molecule of excess methionine that is eaten, it needs to use up two molecules of glycine. And you're not eating the part of the animal where all the glycine is in the collagen. So there is this imbalance. And that's basically what it is. You need about ten grams a day dietary intake of glycine.

Speaker 3:

Your body can make some but it can't make enough. And you need about ten grams a day and the average diet has only about two or three, so sweetamine gives you the other eight grams a day of glycine to give you a really healthy level of glycine which is according to the textbooks way beyond normal because what's normal is just what everybody has, and almost everybody is deficient. So the way I like to explain it is that the immune system is organized in the same way we would organize things. I like to say that we're created in the same way that we create things, and that gives us a very easy handle on God's creation and how it works. We don't have to burn too much wood in our brains to figure it out.

Speaker 3:

It's really laid out right there for the most part. So when we have, let's say, an accident on the highway, who comes around the first responders like these macrophages of the immune system, they're the first responders. And they come around and they call the ambulances and the tow trucks and they take accident reports and they redirect traffic. And when everything's flowing again, they get back in their squad cars and they get back to their headquarters. Now all the while they're armed, they've got loaded guns hanging out of their holsters, but they wouldn't think of using them unless there are bad actors present.

Speaker 3:

In the same way, in your immune system, those macrophages, they are capable of causing inflammation, up the place with all kinds of poisons to kill whatever infectious microbe got in before it kills you, if there are But if there aren't any, those guns should stay in the holsters, and they should just do what they do and get back to back to their ordinary business. In cellular biology, it's now understood gradually, gradually people are creeping up. They understand that macrophages have two kinds of functions. One is the clean up the mess mode, and the other one is the shoot up the place mode. I call it two functions that would occur to me to call them with simple terms.

Speaker 3:

They're either in the mend mode or the rend mode. So the ones that are shooting up the play, they're in the rend mode. They've got their guns drawn and out there firing poisons causing inflammation. And the other mode is the MEND mode, cleaning up the mess, gobbling up cell debris from dying cells and so forth. And that's now called the M2 mode.

Speaker 3:

So the non inflammatory or even anti inflammatory mode where they're just cleaning the place up, that's called M2. And the mode where they're causing inflammation, that's called M1, M for macrophage. And so they have boiled it down to these very simple things, they're just quite not there in terms of the universal effect of glycine as the controller of the master switch. So that's why I say it, sweetamine, which is mainly glycine, eight grams of glycine for the most part, it doesn't fight inflammation, it just stops. It throws that switch or prevents that on switch from being turned on.

Speaker 3:

It's like a trigger lock. And so that's why when people are plagued by some form of inflammation that they can feel unusual aches and pains and muscle soreness and so on, They will usually feel relief in two or three days. Typically that's it. If you've had chronic inflammation for a long time and it's done damage, there may be conditions where now that you can start to heal because it's not constantly inflamed, it may take months or even sometimes years before gradually things get better. But that's a nice healthy way to age.

Speaker 3:

Every morning you wake up, you feel a little better than you did yesterday rather than a little bit worse, which is so that's a that's a more fun way to be aging. So

Seth Holehouse:

It is.

Speaker 3:

I would highly recommend it.

Seth Holehouse:

One question I have is because, you know, it's easy to market something and say, hey. This is this is gonna do x, and it's a it's a big idea, and it sounds like a great idea. Oh, wow. You know, stopping inflammation at the root. That's great.

Seth Holehouse:

Think a lot of people, especially people that are the aging population, are looking for ways to find that kind of relief. One question I have though is, how many people end up buying it again? Right? Because let's just say you say, well, you know, we sell a thousand units a day and, you know, 10 of those are reorders. And tell me that, well, it's probably not

Speaker 3:

worth it.

Seth Holehouse:

Right? So how many people are actually buying it using it?

Speaker 3:

Calculated once. It came out to how many buy again within a month, it was about three out of seven, something Really?

Seth Holehouse:

So it's working. Because people are stupid. Oh yeah,

Speaker 3:

it works.

Seth Holehouse:

Right? They'll come back

Speaker 3:

and Some people they buy it and they probably never use it or they don't, you know, and the other thing about this because it's not a drug, it has no drugs of any kind, this is nutrition. This is just food you need every day. So people say, Oh, should I keep taking it? That's not just a marketing scheme. If you don't want to get your glycine from from Sweetamine, go ahead and take some collagen supplements.

Speaker 3:

You probably pay more for it, but you need that glycine. So people take it and they say, well, my knee is better, my ankle is better, my shoulder is better, and then they stop taking it because everybody is trying to think of things like drugs. And this is why I think most of medical science misses it. Even those researchers who have said, This glycine is amazing. It's great for everything.

Speaker 3:

Know, reperfusion injury and septic shock and cancer and diabetes. It works for so many things. And then you can see they're talking about how, well, is long term therapy good, and what's the toxicity? Food. They say food should be medicine, and medicine food in a way that's true, but it's not a drug because drugs are generally things which will affect a normal function in some way, will augment it or it will suppress it.

Speaker 3:

So all of these things that you see on TV, for example, about these so called biologics or mAbs, monoclonal antibodies, know, these things like Unira and other products like that. They target particular aspects of the inflammatory cascade response. So yes, there's one earlier in the inflammatory cascade once inflammation starts, one of those products is something called TNF alpha. Well TNF alpha, that's a bad act too. It can cause insulin resistance, it can cause migraines and so forth.

Speaker 3:

So you can tell it can cause psoriatic arthritis. So you can get these targeted biologic medicines and it will target that particular aspect of inflammation which is a normal process. And remember, if there's an infection, you need it. So that's why you have the disclaimers at the end of all those ads you speak. Don't take this if you've been in a country where there's a lot of fungal infections.

Speaker 3:

Where is tubercula? Or if you might have an infection, they give you a whole list of reasons not to take it because they know that it is targeting a normal function of your immune system. And if you need it to actually fight off an infection, you're going to be vulnerable to that infection. So that's the trouble with the way drugs work. But this is part of the natural food intake and nutrition that you need every day.

Speaker 3:

And if you get about eight grams a day, is what one serving of sweetamine is, that's really all you need. And you'll find that in cases of sunburn, blood injury, things which you would expect, you're going to get inflammation and plenty of it. It just doesn't happen. I was led to it through self experimentation because my research had led me to the fact that glycine was a beneficial nutrient that we probably weren't getting enough of, and it can only do good things and it's certainly harmless, so I just started taking ten grams a day and did it for a couple of years until stuff started to happen. Stuff happens and when it happened, and I was completely surprised by the results.

Speaker 3:

So that's what led me to the discovery of it and what led me to start it as a business was, and mind you, I was about 60 when I first started this business, that was about thirteen years ago. And I was a professor of science, a university professor and a researcher, and that's all I wanted to do. I had no aspirations to be a businessman in my union. So I did it because I realized that in our system, the best way to get the word out about a discovery like that was to actually start a business, make it available to people. And then the more exposure you get, the more advertising, the more interviews, the more media you can then pour more resources into doing that so the more people will hear about it.

Speaker 3:

A successful business is just the way to do it in an effective way rather than just fighting with academics, which I could do and which I still do. And so maybe in another ten years or twenty years the world will know about all of this research and how important glycine is. Meanwhile, why weren't people able to avail themselves of this discovery all that time between 2010 and between 02/1940 or 02/1950 or whenever else they might find out about it through mainstream sources of medical information, deciding that this was appropriate for people to know about. We all know that glutamine is a product which costs about a dollar a day. Users pay about a dollar a day for That's not what these biologics cost, these things that cost thousands of dollars a dose.

Speaker 3:

This is not good for the bottom line of drug companies. There is a disincentive to inform the world about it too, in addition to all the usual academic reluctance to give credence to something you didn't discover. Somebody else figured this out, and you didn't do it, and you're not going to get a Nobel Prize. Terrible. All that nonsense instead of just, I did this originally the same reason I wanted to be in science, to learn about the world and in particular as a medical researcher to find out about and be able to cure or prevent things like heart disease and cancer, and of course as a product, I can't say it prevents, treats, or diagnoses any of these things.

Speaker 3:

I have to give the usual FDA disclaimer. But what it does is it provides nutrition that is normally missing in the diet because unlike our forebears, we don't eat the whole animal. We generally just eat the muscle meats and we eat a lot of it. So in two ways that makes the deficiency worse. That's why we're suffering more than we ever did before from these kinds of chronic diseases.

Speaker 3:

But if you go back to my academic training, it's interesting because my doctorate is in basic medical science with a major in biochemistry and minors in physiology and immunology. This discovery of the role of glycine is the perfect intersection between biochemistry, nutritional biochemistry, and cellular physiology, what turns inflammation on and off in the cell, and immunology because it's all about cells of the immune system. I look back on my life, my whole adult life since I was 10 really, since before adulthood when I decided to get into this. The whole trajectory of my life has kind of led me to this discovery just by putting one foot in front of the other and following the trail of breadcrumbs that's there in the medical literature. One thing I'd like to say is that a lot of times they'll say, Oh, so and so stumbled upon this.

Speaker 3:

Stumbled upon glycine. I said, No, you stumble when you're not paying attention. You discover things when you are paying attention. What we mean usually when we say we stumbled upon it usually means that the result was surprising. It was something we saw something we did not expect.

Speaker 3:

And the great Louis Pasteur said, chance happens to the prepared mind. So that's what education is all about. My education is really to prepare my mind to be able to discover things and not to ignore things. When we have a tendency in science and everything else to build on what what was before, that's a good thing, but in science, we're typically very much schooled in a whole library of dogma. Think something that's built on you you start with nutritional biochemistry, so hey, we knew fifty years ago, one hundred years ago, what the essential amino acids were and what the non essential ones were.

Speaker 3:

So nobody questions that. I didn't either. But you have to be open to something happening that you did not expect, that I did not expect. That's such a

Seth Holehouse:

Just a relentless pursuit for the truth, and that's it.

Speaker 3:

Yeah. It gets you to to very simple things.

Todd Callender:

To truth.

Seth Holehouse:

To find

Speaker 3:

Science isn't about the simple. People say sometimes, well, it can't be that simple. Just one molecule. Oh, yes. We don't reject hypotheses because they're too simple.

Speaker 3:

We reject them because they're too complex. Exactly.

Seth Holehouse:

Well, so we've got for folks that are interested in getting Sweetamine, mysweetamine dot com slash Seth, If if they go there, the link will be in in the description, that will get them $5 off their first order. Or say they they happen to go to sweetamine.com because they Google it and whatnot. We do have

Speaker 3:

The discount code is Seth.

Seth Holehouse:

Seth, s e t h. So, Joel, it's such a pleasure speaking with you, and and I really just commend you and thank you for supporting people like me because, you know, I I can't go viral on YouTube. Like, a lot of YouTubers, they make a lot of money because the algorithms and, you know, these these big accounts. So so whether it's social media, YouTube, or other advertisers, it's really hard, you know, to to make it. But it's people like you that are willing to stand up for truth and do what's right that make shows like mine possible.

Seth Holehouse:

So I thank you for that, and I thank you for what you're doing for folks. I encourage people to check out Sweetamine, you know, give it a shot. You try it for a month. It's easy. It's not that expensive.

Seth Holehouse:

Try it for a month. It either works or it doesn't. And if it Right. And it's Great.

Speaker 3:

By the way, it's risk free. If you buy a twelve day challenge or you buy a full month supply box of 30, and you decide you don't like it for any reason, just tell us. You get your money back. You don't have to return an empty box or anything like that. Just that's it.

Speaker 3:

So it's really risk free.

Seth Holehouse:

There you go. Well, thank you again for being on. It's it's always nice speaking with you. Take care and God bless.

Speaker 3:

Okay. Thanks. See you again soon, I hope. Right.