Baby's Day Out

Step back to 1994 with Katie as she welcomes back Milo Denison for a deep dive into the chaotic John Hughes-produced comedy *Baby's Day Out* — where a baby outsmarts three bumbling kidnappers in a city-wide slapstick adventure!

In this episode we spin the 1994 trivia wheel (books, cartoons & fashion), break down the full cast & production drama, compare it to *Home Alone*, and uncover why it bombed in the US but became a massive hit in India (complete with its own remake). Practical effects, great character actors, and cartoon logic collide in this wild 90s ride.

00:00 Introduction & Guest Welcome with Milo Denison  
03:25 Milo’s Show Update: Solo Format & Upcoming Sly vs Arnold Episode  
05:40 1994 Time Capsule Trivia: Books, Bestsellers & the Oprah Effect  
13:10 Saturday Morning Cartoons of 1994: X-Men, Power Rangers, Animaniacs & Sonic  
21:05 1994 Fashion Trends: Grunge Flannel, Clueless Plaid Skirts & Baggy Jeans  
29:30 Baby’s Day Out Plot, Expectations & First Impressions  
37:50 The Criminals Steal the Show: Joe Mantegna, Joe Pantoliano & Brian Haley  
50:20 Production Nightmares: John Hughes Drama, Director Fights & $48M Budget Flop  
59:00 Slapstick vs Reality, Practical Effects Praise & Pacing Issues  
1:07:10 Surprising Cultural Impact in India + Cast What-Ifs (Tom Selleck & More)  
1:19:40 Final Thoughts, Siskel & Ebert Drama & Podcast Plugs

Check out Milo’s podcast **The 80s and 90s Uncensored** (now solo with rotating guests) at the80sand90s.com — and keep an eye out for his Sly vs Arnold episode!  

Katie is also part of the **One More Round: The Rocky Series Podcast** — search it on YouTube for in-depth Rocky movie coverage.  

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Creators and Guests

Host

Katie Geilenkirchen

Guest

Milo Denison

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2:402 minutes, 40 secondsHello. Hello, I'm Katie and welcome back to Retro Made Your Pop Culture Rewind.
2:462 minutes, 46 secondsToday we're heading back to 1994 when pop culture was firing on all cylinders, I must say, to revisit Baby's Day Out, a movie that dares to
2:562 minutes, 56 secondsask, what if a baby could outwit three grown criminals without even trying.
3:023 minutes, 2 secondsWe will get into the chaos, the cartoon logic, and whether this one holds up at all. Plus a quick trip through some 1994 trivia to set the scene.
3:143 minutes, 14 secondsme is a returning guest, Milo Dennison from the eighties and nineties which you recently rolled out a bit of an update.
3:233 minutes, 23 secondsSo Milo, good to have you back.
3:253 minutes, 25 secondsIs there anything new with the show or anything upcoming that you wanna tell us about and where we can find you? Yeah. Bit of a change in the show.
3:323 minutes, 32 secondsI used to co-host it with a good friend of mine, Jamie Fenderson, and so he's stepped back from the show to focus on other areas.
3:383 minutes, 38 secondsSo it's a solo show now, and kind of changed the format up a little bit.
3:423 minutes, 42 secondsI'm doing a bit of just solo episodes where I talk about interesting historic facts from the eighties and nineties, and then bringing on a kind of a rotating guest host.
3:523 minutes, 52 secondsJust had you on, which was fun. And so that'll be coming up here soon.
3:573 minutes, 57 secondsAnd yeah, so kind of revitalized it, reformatted a little bit, so we'll see how it goes. Nice. I'm looking forward to the new format and see what episodes you have upcoming.
4:054 minutes, 5 secondsSpeaking of which, thank you for having me on.
4:084 minutes, 8 secondsSo at some point an upcoming episode I will tell you guys sneak peek is Sly versus Arnold. Mm-hmm. Which was super fun.
4:164 minutes, 16 secondsI'm kind of surprised you guys hadn't done that yet you know, given the eighties and nineties and the action of it all.
4:224 minutes, 22 secondsBut that does remind me before we get into our discussion about 1994 and Baby's Day Out.
4:284 minutes, 28 secondsIf you do like sly movies, particularly Rocky I'm lucky enough to get to join an excellent podcasting team discussing this series in a very in-depth way.
4:404 minutes, 40 secondsSo much so that each movie is an entire season and we've just wrapped our six seasons of coverage, but.
4:494 minutes, 49 secondsIt is all there for your binging pleasure.
4:514 minutes, 51 secondsSo the easiest way to find that is to head over to YouTube and search for one more round the Rocky Series Podcast.
4:584 minutes, 58 secondsSo if you're into sly I would check that out.
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5:155 minutes, 15 secondsYou can see me and my lovely guests and you can actually comment and interact with the episodes right there. So please do so.
5:235 minutes, 23 secondsBut Milo, before we get into Baby's Day Out, shall we open the time capsule from 1994?
5:335 minutes, 33 secondsLet's do it. I remember 1994. So let's see what you've got in your time capsule.
5:375 minutes, 37 secondsAll right, we're gonna, spin the retro made trivia wheel So we just, we've covered some of the categories already from 1994 in one of the Christmas episodes.
5:495 minutes, 49 secondsSo John Hughes had a, he did the remake of Miracle on 34th Street.
5:545 minutes, 54 secondsI don't know if you remember that one, Milo, but Yeah, I do remember that I really liked the original Miracle on 34th Street, so I think it's one of those films that shouldn't have been remade.
6:046 minutes, 4 secondsYeah, I think a lot of people felt that way. It, it was quite good.
6:076 minutes, 7 secondsBut at any rate, check out that episode if you're interested hearing my, my and my thoughts and my guest thoughts on that.
6:136 minutes, 13 secondsBut Milo, the reason I'm bringing that up is that if we come to a category that we've already covered, we'll just spin again.
6:206 minutes, 20 secondsSo I'm gonna spin on your behalf and we shall see.
6:306 minutes, 30 secondsPages of the past, I believe is fair game. As you might guess, this is books and magazines.
6:406 minutes, 40 secondsThe literary world was a mix of legal thrillers.
6:436 minutes, 43 secondsThere was a rise of Oprah's influence on reading habits at this time, the debut of era defining magazines.
6:516 minutes, 51 secondsSo I've got some trivia questions. These are a little harder than they usually are. I think sometimes my trivia questions are too easy.
6:586 minutes, 58 secondsBut, which former attorney turned author dominated the 1994 bestseller lists with legal thrillers?
7:097 minutes, 9 secondsLike the chamber? It is gotta be John Grisham. Yes.
7:147 minutes, 14 secondsI didn't even need to finish No. Yeah. You, you had me at legal thrillers. Like he was, he was so huge back then with his books.
7:217 minutes, 21 secondsLike everybody was reading his books and they were all being turned into movies.
7:257 minutes, 25 secondsThey, they were, I don't, I should have looked up how many had turned into to movies. The client is one that definitely was turned into a movie.
7:327 minutes, 32 secondsI don't think I've read any John Grisham novels. I think I've read one, didn't he? Did he write Congo?
7:407 minutes, 40 secondsOh, I don't know.
7:417 minutes, 41 secondsIf he wrote Congo, then I read that one because I know I've read that I, and I think he wrote that I could be wrong.
7:497 minutes, 49 secondsBut again, I'm not a huge, I'm not really big on thrillers and, and especially like legal thrillers.
7:557 minutes, 55 secondsSo, yeah, that's probably why I didn't read too many of That was definitely a not my jam in the mid nineties.
8:008 minutesBut it kind of is now, but there's just so much stuff that I, you know, there's just a lot. But Good answer. Good answer.
8:078 minutes, 7 secondsThis one I think is, I don't think I would get this correct, so I'd be shocked if you did. . This is where Oak was influenced. Is is coming into play.
8:168 minutes, 16 secondsWhat, yeah. What? 94 Cookbook became one of the fastest selling books in history.
8:238 minutes, 23 secondsAfter its author, if I say the name, it might give it away. Appeared on the oprah Winfrey Show to share.
8:308 minutes, 30 secondsSecrets of Oprah's weight loss. oh.
8:348 minutes, 34 secondsIs this like one of those fad diets for a while that like everybody was only eating meat or something like that, or I don't know.
8:418 minutes, 41 secondsI, I, I, I, to be honest, I'm not sure. I am not familiar with this person. So listeners, let me know if you are. This one completely missed me.
8:508 minutes, 50 secondsI don't think Oprah kept the weight.
8:518 minutes, 51 secondsI think she's one of those that kind of yo-yos with her weight. But the answer is in the kitchen with Rosie Oprah's favorite recipes.
9:029 minutes, 2 secondsNever heard of it. Same.
9:059 minutes, 5 secondsI, I mean, I guess the book sold over 5 million copies in its first year kind of showcasing the Oprah effect in the publishing industry.
9:139 minutes, 13 secondsBut I guess in 94, I, again, that was not my jam. Let's see. This one I think is also hard.
9:219 minutes, 21 secondsI love true crime, but at the time I wasn't into this and so this one missed me.
9:279 minutes, 27 secondsWhich nonfiction True Crime book by John Baron debuted in 94, detailing a High
9:359 minutes, 35 secondsSociety murder in Savannah, Georgia, went on to spend a record breaking 216 weeks on the bestseller list.
9:449 minutes, 44 secondsOh, I do know this 'cause it was turned into a movie actually as well.
9:509 minutes, 50 secondsGardens or something or something like Yes. Milo, you're on the right track. I can't remember the exact name.
9:579 minutes, 57 secondsIt is, Gardens of Louisiana or something like that. Like something gardeny. yeah. It's midnight in The Garden of Good and Evil.
10:0710 minutes, 7 secondsright. Yep. Yeah, yeah. I remember that.
10:0910 minutes, 9 secondsI don't, wow. Okay.
10:1110 minutes, 11 secondsDid you read it I did not read it. I just remember 'cause it was so huge and I saw the movie. Okay. Was it any good? It was good. Yeah. Mm-hmm.
10:1910 minutes, 19 secondsOkay.
10:2010 minutes, 20 secondsOh, I guess that the book Success turned the City of Savannah into a major tourist destination. I believe that it was, they, yeah, it was pretty, it was huge.
10:2910 minutes, 29 secondsI do re recall it being like a big, big deal that how popular that book was. I did name my very first dog that I adopted as an adult.
10:3710 minutes, 37 secondsSavannah. Hmm. if there was something subconscious there. I just think it's a pretty name.
10:4110 minutes, 41 secondsBut alright, the next question is, which iconic fashion and lifestyle magazine
10:4710 minutes, 47 secondsknown for its focus on celebrity homes and get the look features like the cover would say, get so-and-so's look published.
10:5610 minutes, 56 secondsIts very first issue in June, 1994 with Barbara Streisand on the cover.
11:0411 minutes, 4 secondsI have no idea on this one. I don't think I would get this either. Sorry, these are very hard, but you're doing pretty well.
11:1111 minutes, 11 secondsIt is in Style Okay, cool. Good for InStyle Magazine. That, I mean, I, I'm sure I've heard of it.
11:2011 minutes, 20 secondsOh, I've definitely heard of In Style. I've read in Style.
11:2311 minutes, 23 secondsI didn't know it started at this time and yeah. Okay. of, I agree.
11:2711 minutes, 27 secondsI kind of feel like that would've been an older magazine that had been around longer. Yeah, Yeah. totally. This one is sort of an expansion of a magazine.
11:3611 minutes, 36 secondsSo it started as a small health newsletter and it became a global powerhouse in 94 by expanding its lifestyle content to include things
11:4611 minutes, 46 secondslike ABS in six weeks like that style of cover as well as relationship advice. Hmm.
11:5511 minutes, 55 secondsNot like GQ or Men's Health or something like that.
11:5811 minutes, 58 secondsis it Men's health. Men's Health? yeah. Very good. I got two and a half, right.
12:0612 minutes, 6 secondsYou did, were you suckered in by the abs in six I was a men's health reader. Yeah.
12:1212 minutes, 12 secondsI, Yeah, I'd, I'd go like attempt to be in shape and, and exercise occasionally and stuff like that.
12:1912 minutes, 19 secondsSo I, I definitely, I read it for, I had a subscription for a while. I was one of those people.
12:2412 minutes, 24 secondsI was suckered in by all of the various contraptions for abs, I was big into abs. That must have been the thing in, in the mid nineties.
12:3312 minutes, 33 secondsSo I bought all of the infomercial. Style, like Suzanne Summers had, like the Thigh Master, and there was like
12:4012 minutes, 40 secondsthis ab, I can picture it, I don't even remember what it was called, but I bought a bunch of AB related devices that, you know, didn't really help
12:5012 minutes, 50 secondsIt didn't actually do much. Yeah. yeah.
12:5212 minutes, 52 secondsI mean, I guess you had to use it pretty regularly Apparently that makes a difference. I guess. All right, well let's, let's, let's maybe find you an easier category.
13:0013 minutesThat was a really hard one. All right. Oh boy.
13:0713 minutes, 7 secondsIt's on the cusp, but return to tune time. Tune time. Okay. Yeah. This kind of leads towards our topic a bit ish. a little, yes, it does.
13:1613 minutes, 16 secondsNow, 94, this was, you know, I'm not watching Saturday morning cartoons at this time.
13:2213 minutes, 22 secondsBut there was kind of a, there were still peak in kid culture, the Saturday morning cartoons with the like A B, CNBC and CBS, but there was a rising.
13:3413 minutes, 34 secondsFox Kids Channel with a fair amount of content that we're battling for our eyeballs there.
13:4013 minutes, 40 secondsSo Yeah, keep that in mind. Yeah. that time that were getting big. Yeah. So keep that in mind.
13:4913 minutes, 49 secondsSo the first, the first one is a Fox Kids powerhouse, and it featured a team of mutants led by a certain professor.
13:5913 minutes, 59 secondsAnd because if I say his name, it'll give it away. I think I know where you're going already on this one. Yeah.
14:0514 minutes, 5 secondshe became famous for its iconic theme song and complex storylines like fe, the Phoenix Saga.
14:1314 minutes, 13 secondsI did not watch this, but I bet boys did, we did an episode about it actually X-Men the animated series, and it was really well done because it did, it, it, it dealt with a lot of adult themes.
14:2514 minutes, 25 secondsIt dealt with like, you, the way the mutants are treated, obviously that's the whole X-Men thing, right?
14:3014 minutes, 30 secondsAnd instead of just standalone episodes, you had that like storyline that carried on throughout the entire series as it evolved.
14:3814 minutes, 38 secondsSo it was really, really well done. that actually really surprises me. I don't know why just that kind of thing isn't for me so much.
14:4714 minutes, 47 secondsSo I believe it maybe helped pave the way for , all of the superhero movies that we have now, and that is a miss for me too.
14:5514 minutes, 55 secondsI, I'm sure they're all wonderful, but they're not for me.
15:0015 minutesI can understand that I, for a while was into the, some of the superhero movies, but hey, they've just been stunned so to death and the plot is the same on every single one of 'em.
15:1115 minutes, 11 secondsAnd yeah, I can't watch 'em anymore. I've completely lost interest.
15:1415 minutes, 14 secondsBut I would recommend Xmen the animated series just because it was the precursor to all of this.
15:2015 minutes, 20 secondsAnd again, this is a cartoon directed towards children that deals with a lot of adult subjects in a lot of ways. Well, that's good.
15:2915 minutes, 29 secondsMm-hmm.
15:2915 minutes, 29 secondsThe next one I kind of put in the same category also have not seen, but am aware of its place in the pop culture zeitgeist.
15:4015 minutes, 40 secondsIt is technically live action, and I know we're in return to tune time, but
15:4515 minutes, 45 secondsit was a Saturday morning phenomenon and it used Japanese super sai footage to
15:5315 minutes, 53 secondstell the story of five teenagers with attitude chosen by Zoan to save earth. Oh, is this that?
16:0216 minutes, 2 secondsI didn't watch it.
16:0316 minutes, 3 secondsThat they, and then they kind of combined and formed like a big me thing or something at some point.
16:0916 minutes, 9 secondsMaybe I know the show you're it's very, It was, everyone's probably screaming because I mean, it was very popular. was so popular.
16:1816 minutes, 18 secondsOh.
16:1816 minutes, 18 secondsI'm kicking myself for not thinking of the name of it They each have a color, They do each have a color. Yeah. Mm-hmm. Give up.
16:2716 minutes, 27 secondsIt's yeah. I'm gonna have to, it. I, I know I'll know it as soon as you say it.
16:3116 minutes, 31 secondsYeah, go it is the mighty Morphin Power Rangers. Yes. I'm an idiot. I can't believe I didn't think of that.
16:3916 minutes, 39 secondsThey're probably vastly different shows, but in my brain, it and the X-Men are the same.
16:4516 minutes, 45 secondsI don't know, maybe genre.
16:4716 minutes, 47 secondsPower Rangers I had no interest in whatsoever, the next one I am familiar with. So, it is produced by Steven Spielberg.
16:5616 minutes, 56 secondsIs it Animas?
16:5816 minutes, 58 secondsIt is, I didn't even, You didn't Once she had me at Steven Spielberg. Yep.
17:0417 minutes, 4 secondsBoy, it won multiple daytime Emmy awards and it was beloved by adults for he, for its pastiche style and witty, fast-paced humor.
17:1417 minutes, 14 secondsYeah, I didn't get into Anim Maniacs.
17:1617 minutes, 16 secondsI kind of feel like I might have felt I was too old for it at the Mm.
17:2017 minutes, 20 secondsNow I would probably appreciate it, like I was at that age where I'm too old for cartoons, but too young to appreciate cartoons as an older person that Mm-hmm.
17:3017 minutes, 30 secondsYeah, kinda where I was when Anim Maniacs came out. similar.
17:3317 minutes, 33 secondsI feel like it was just on, sometimes it either came on before or after something that I did watch. So I'm aware of it, but I, I was never a fan per se.
17:4417 minutes, 44 secondsThe next one I'm also familiar with, but I didn't watch it.
17:4717 minutes, 47 secondsThere was also a video game series, Okay.
17:5217 minutes, 52 secondsDarker story driven cartoon featuring blue bur as the leader of a group of freedom fighters rebelling against the tyrannical, Dr. Robotnik Robotnik.
18:0418 minutes, 4 secondsI don't know how they pronounce it. Okay. This one doesn't ring a bell. That clue wouldn't help me. I will say it's an animal.
18:1318 minutes, 13 secondsThe main character is an animal. Okay. I'm still lost. Mm-hmm.
18:2018 minutes, 20 secondsand there were two, uh hmm. I don't know what the other one is.
18:2418 minutes, 24 secondsThere were two different cartoons like this with the same character airing at the same time.
18:3118 minutes, 31 secondsThis version was known for its more serious tone compared to the slapstick weekday version. Maybe that's the one I'm more familiar with.
18:3818 minutes, 38 secondsThere's a video game of the same name, Clueless. Sonic the Hedgehog. Oh gee.
18:4718 minutes, 47 secondsThat's right. They did a sonic the head. I forgot that there even was a sonic cartoon. Me too. you're right. Yeah, I remember.
18:5418 minutes, 54 secondsI know they did the boobies and I actually had the game.
18:5818 minutes, 58 secondsI had the little PlayStation portable or whatever it was called, the little portable one, and I had that game.
19:0519 minutes, 5 secondsI, yeah, I totally forgot that they did a sonic cartoon.
19:0819 minutes, 8 secondsCompletely forgot about it, I feel like the, I. I was at a friend's house once and they had a Sega, like a different gaming console.
19:1619 minutes, 16 secondsor, yeah. Sega, not Sony.
19:1819 minutes, 18 secondsI mean, sorry, I I don't know if the, it was you, if it was only made available for Sega. Mm-hmm.
19:2519 minutes, 25 secondsIt was, So then you gotta buy all the gaming consoles if you wanna play the games. I mean, this is how they get you, man. Last question. Okay. Let's see if I do better on this one.
19:3419 minutes, 34 secondsYou probably will. Okay. It's debuting in late 1994, which Marvel series followed a certain
19:4119 minutes, 41 secondsperson's life at Empire State University, while balancing being a hero and dealing with the sinister six.
19:5219 minutes, 52 secondsIf I give Peter Parker Was it a Spider-Man cartoon?
19:5719 minutes, 57 secondsWas it like spider, so I'm guessing some kinda Spider-Man Yeah. Spider-Man, the animated series. Oh, okay.
20:0520 minutes, 5 secondsYeah, I, I didn't either, I didn't watch any of these. But I guess it was like really big ratings wise on Fox Kids. Wow.
20:1420 minutes, 14 secondsGood for it. I remember watching a previous iteration of Spider-Man when I was younger. They must have done in yeah.
20:2120 minutes, 21 secondsSeventies or eighties version of Spider-Man.
20:2320 minutes, 23 secondsThat one I watched, but this one I, yeah, I guess I wouldn't have like the, the thing is like 94.
20:3020 minutes, 30 secondsI mean, that would've been, I would've been in college at the time for me. So, just finishing just outta high school, just going into college.
20:3920 minutes, 39 secondsSo my This is so on that kind of stuff at that time. Yeah.
20:4320 minutes, 43 secondswell, let's spin another category because you, you've gotten really hard ones, Milo, as the cartoon.
20:4920 minutes, 49 secondsThe cartoon one is especially hard if the eighties ones are easier 'cause we were. Like, at least like I was a kid then. Yeah, exactly.
20:5720 minutes, 57 secondsAge's, cartoons. I can, I can remember all that. Okay.
21:0021 minutesI feel like given your age at this time, you would know some of these from Retro Runway.
21:0921 minutes, 9 secondsOkay. Claudia Schaffer. Oh, oh my God. I loved her. I was obsessed. All the magazines had all the supermodels in the nineties.
21:1721 minutes, 17 secondsMan, I, it's no wonder we all have eating disorders.
21:2021 minutes, 20 secondsUm, To those magazines. So it was 94 was your fashion officially split between gritty and glossy.
21:3221 minutes, 32 secondsSo you either looked like you just rolled out of a garage band practice or like you were heading to a high-end mall in Beverly Hills. Oh yeah. It was totally garage band.
21:4221 minutes, 42 secondsSo speaking of this one's the giveaway, but inspired by the Seattle music
21:4921 minutes, 49 secondsscene, which you're in Seattle, right? Milah. Yep. Yep.
21:5421 minutes, 54 secondsCringe the style that Seattle brought to the world and the world has been suffering from ever since.
22:0022 minutesWell, specifically, so you said grunge, but there's a, what was the plaid shirt Oh, the flannel shirts. yeah.
22:0922 minutes, 9 secondsYeah, yeah. I have a couple still, I think probably.
22:1322 minutes, 13 secondsI have flannel shirts, but not in a grungy way. Like they're from J Crew.
22:1722 minutes, 17 secondsSo I, well that's fashionable then. Yeah. like the more, the glossy version of it, I suppose. So Kurt Cobain passed in 94.
22:2622 minutes, 26 secondsAnd so he made it famous to be like anti fashionable, hence this whole grunge look, but high end designers like Mark Jacobs famously brought
22:3622 minutes, 36 secondsthe look to the runway, which Kurt was probably like, damn the man, you know? probably.
22:4422 minutes, 44 secondsPlaid was a big, I'm, picture the movie Clueless for this question.
22:5022 minutes, 50 secondsOkay, which schoolgirl aesthetic featuring pleaded plaid skirts and matching blazers became a massive trend thanks to Oh, thanks to filming the 1990 95 movie.
23:0223 minutes, 2 secondsClueless.
23:0323 minutes, 3 secondsso this was like a women's style that was like called something like the short skirts that they wore Then,
23:0923 minutes, 9 secondsIt was, it was two specific items, and I kind of already gave it away, but yet you said short skirts, so plaid mini skirts I remember
23:1823 minutes, 18 secondsand what were paired with them are we going for like the boots, like the, the like, what's the appropriate word?
23:2523 minutes, 25 secondsLike, we used to call 'em, fuck me boots, but like the Kneehigh boots.
23:2923 minutes, 29 secondsBut this is Yeah. I'm like, what, what, what are you supposed to say on on a podcast thing?
23:3423 minutes, 34 secondsThat's not, that's Those boots still work. Like I, I gotta say I love a tall boot, but it's not the boots.
23:4123 minutes, 41 secondsThis is like, if you picture, if you didn't wear a tall boot, you still wore if you wore Mary Jane style shoes, what?
23:5023 minutes, 50 secondsThe stockings.
23:5223 minutes, 52 secondsWhat were they, Oh, there was a name for the stockings. like, how would you describe them? Yeah, so they like, so you would actually see like the top of the stocking.
24:0224 minutes, 2 secondsLike they, they would come up and then so you actually had this like kinda gap between the top of the stocking and then where the skirt started, and so you could see a little leg there.
24:1124 minutes, 11 secondsIt was quite a sexy style. I have to, I have to. Yeah. That takes me back. Girls back then were hot. Uhhuh, I mean, clue. Yes.
24:1924 minutes, 19 secondsClueless was It So yeah.
24:2224 minutes, 22 secondsPlaid, moony, skirts and kneehigh, like kneehigh Kneehigh stockings.
24:2524 minutes, 25 secondsYeah, I remember that Yeah.
24:2724 minutes, 27 secondsIt's a good look.
24:2824 minutes, 28 secondsIt was a good time to be alive it was, in college. yes. Now not hot.
24:3624 minutes, 36 secondsI mean, I don't know, maybe guys think it's cute, but it's, it's a, a denim staple
24:4324 minutes, 43 secondskind of became like hip hop culture icons would wear this you talking about the baggy jeans? similar.
24:5224 minutes, 52 secondsIt's a lot of times they would wear, this is gonna give it away, but one shoulder strap, unbuckled.
25:0325 minutes, 3 secondsOh, the overalls? Yeah. Yeah, that's right. Yeah. The big baggy overalls with one shoulder step undone. Yep.
25:1125 minutes, 11 secondsYep. That's, that's a trend. Yeah.
25:1425 minutes, 14 secondsCan you name a specific brand of, of this type of thing Levi's, that Yes, probably,
25:2325 minutes, 23 secondsI'm sure they must have done him it's like brand, so Oshkosh Bash. Mm-hmm. And cross colors that I'm not familiar with.
25:3225 minutes, 32 secondsWere go-to names for this particular look, apparently. Yeah. that's right. I do remember Oshkosh posh. Mm-hmm.
25:4025 minutes, 40 secondsWhat type Fitting necklace accessory Oh, the choker. Yes. Oh man. Another hot one. I knew this girl that wore those.
25:4825 minutes, 48 secondsOh, she was gorgeous. Yeah.
25:5125 minutes, 51 secondsI mean, mid nineties, I mean, Yeah. Became a must have jewelry item for every teenage girl in 1994.
25:5825 minutes, 58 secondsI also had one. Yeah. Can you name a store that you might find this particular item in, in the mall?
26:0726 minutes, 7 secondsOh, mall store.
26:0826 minutes, 8 secondsWhat was the oh, there was one and it was like, kind of, everything was really dark at the time in the store.
26:1426 minutes, 14 secondsLike, are thinking of hot topic? topic. Yeah. I was thinking a hot topic. Mm-hmm. That is also a store that sold these. But this is like an accessory store.
26:2226 minutes, 22 secondsThey also have a bazillion scrunchies that we all would buy. Mm-hmm.
26:2826 minutes, 28 secondsI'm not sure on this one.
26:2926 minutes, 29 secondsClaire's, Okay.
26:3126 minutes, 31 secondsI, I, I, know Claire's the name. Yeah. Yeah. But I would've never have thought of that though. This one you kind of already said it's, it's adjacent.
26:4326 minutes, 43 secondsBut I think this is probably more for boys. It is a denim trend. Okay.
26:5026 minutes, 50 secondsThe bag of jeans thing, the the jorts, the, the Kevin Sp wears all the time with his log baggy jean shorts,
27:0027 minutesNo, but it's the saggy, baggy jeans so that they were so oversized that the hems would like fray from being drug on the ground.
27:1027 minutes, 10 secondsTommy Hilfiger was a popular brand at this time. Is there another brand that you can think of? besides Levi Wrangler.
27:1827 minutes, 18 secondsJenko. Jenko.
27:2027 minutes, 20 secondsRemember that no. I remember the style. Here's the thing, if you think about this, like think 1994, right?
27:2627 minutes, 26 secondsThe women looked gorgeous and the men looked disgusting. Baggy jeans and flannel shirts with a like just rattle T-shirt underneath it.
27:3627 minutes, 36 secondsLike it was just this complete opposite of like styles wise.
27:4027 minutes, 40 secondsAnd I remember the baggy jeans, I remember once watching a guy kind of running across the street and he had to like hike up his jeans and hold onto 'em so he could run across the street really quick.
27:5027 minutes, 50 secondsAnd then he let go of his jeans again and kind of they drop down and does the cool walk. Yeah. People looked ridiculous.
27:5527 minutes, 55 secondsOur Yeah, there's a specific walk I can picture like a bunch of dopey, like white dudes, like short dopey, like stoner white dudes wearing this.
28:0728 minutes, 7 secondsBut this particular, this was kind of a trend particularly with Tommy Hilfiger, I guess they saw really big sales hike after Snoop Dogg wore a Hilfiger sweatshirt on SNL.
28:1928 minutes, 19 secondsOoh. So they were, kind of known then for this street wear.
28:2328 minutes, 23 secondsAnd I can actually picture a girl that I went to high school with wore like all Tommy Hilfiger stuff for her senior pictures it was so much part of our like culture.
28:3628 minutes, 36 secondsHe was very popular around that time. You're right, a lot of people were wearing Tommy Hilfiger type stuff. Yeah.
28:4328 minutes, 43 secondsWell, Milo, you did pretty good.
28:4628 minutes, 46 secondsYou did pretty completely suck, I guess, but got some of it. Yeah, I would say those were harder. I wanted to purposefully make these questions harder.
28:5428 minutes, 54 seconds'cause I feel like trivia is usually a little too easy.
28:5828 minutes, 58 secondsAnd sometimes when I have guests that are not American, a lot of the pop culture things are, they're a little harder for them.
29:0629 minutes, 6 secondsI apparently but without further ado, shall we get into Baby's Day Out?
29:1829 minutes, 18 secondsOh, let's do it. Yeah. We, we shall so this movie, baby's Day Out, it came out July 1st, 1994.
29:2829 minutes, 28 secondsPg obviously it is a little long for this type of movie, about an hour and 40 minutes, but it's, IMDB rating is a 6.2, which isn't bad.
29:4129 minutes, 41 secondsThat's pretty good. I wanna know who's giving it those. Right.
29:4529 minutes, 45 secondsWell, if we can get into this film a we will. And, and I should preface it's, I'm not the target audience for this film at all.
29:5329 minutes, 53 secondsWho would you say is the target audience?
29:5529 minutes, 55 secondswell, I think maybe that's probably part of the problem with this film, because I think the target audience for this film is people too young to watch this film and appreciate it.
30:0430 minutes, 4 seconds'Cause if you're old enough to watch it, you probably think it's stupid.
30:0830 minutes, 8 secondsIf you're a parent watching it, you're watching it because you want your kid to watch it if you're a child watching it.
30:1630 minutes, 16 secondsI, I don't, I don't know. I don't know if it would be interesting. I don't know who is the target audience for this six year olds.
30:2230 minutes, 22 secondsYou know, well, we will get into it. I would say John Hughes having done this season after the success of Home Alone.
30:3330 minutes, 33 secondsAnd Home alone. Two, he made so many movies that just kind of tried to recreate that.
30:4130 minutes, 41 secondsAlmost all of them did not succeed in doing so.
30:4630 minutes, 46 secondsI have some specific thoughts about where Babies' Day outfits among all of those movies that we'll get to.
30:5230 minutes, 52 secondsBut the players for this movie, we have a director that we have not talked about yet on Retro Made, and I think there's a reason why.
31:0231 minutes, 2 secondsHis name is Patrick Reed Johnson. He doesn't have very many well-known credits.
31:0831 minutes, 8 secondsAnd he was initially hired to direct another kind of knockoff of, of Home Alone, Dennis Aena, the year earlier.
31:1731 minutes, 17 secondsNow Patrick Reid Johnson apparently was trying to expand on some of the concepts and Hughes fired him because he didn't like the fact that he was kind of trying to change his script.
31:2731 minutes, 27 secondsSo he hired Nick Castle to direct that movie. So after that, Hughes actually called Johnson to apologize and offered him this movie.
31:3731 minutes, 37 secondsIt seems Hughes can ha he's a very specific personality, a as I'm learning. So he and this Patrick Reed Johnson did not get along with Hughes.
31:4731 minutes, 47 secondsClearly. He got fired from one job and then he was hired for this and they were continuously fighting over different cuts poor test screenings.
31:5731 minutes, 57 secondsSo they both got stressed out and just decided to be done with it. But.
32:0232 minutes, 2 secondsI also read that after a bad test screening they got in a heated argument regarding the movie and they reached a, a mutual agreement to meet the following day to discuss possible solutions for improving the film.
32:1532 minutes, 15 secondsHowever, later that evening is when the announcement of John Candy's passing
32:2232 minutes, 22 secondswas announced and that news given Hughes and John Candy were so close, really, really, really affected Hughes.
32:3032 minutes, 30 secondsSo he just completely stopped giving a shit and didn't communicate after that at all anymore with the director.
32:4132 minutes, 41 secondsSo, thoughts about this? that's understandable.
32:4532 minutes, 45 secondsI mean, if he already was not happy with the film and just not in the mindset
32:5332 minutes, 53 secondsof really bothering with it all that much anymore, and then your good friend like that dies, I can kind of see that.
33:0033 minutesI can kind of see him like being, you know what, I'm done. I got paid, my job's done here.
33:0633 minutes, 6 secondsI'm, you know, I'm John Hughes. I'll move on. You know, I'll survive. That is true.
33:1333 minutes, 13 secondsApparently he was extremely hands-on and involved with this particular pre-production process of Baby's Day Out.
33:2133 minutes, 21 secondsBut by the middle of filming even some staff and crew kind of got annoyed 'cause he just completely backed off leaving them frustrated with him.
33:3133 minutes, 31 secondsEven while they were still filming and I learned that there was a script he was writing. So that he was trying to get off the ground.
33:4033 minutes, 40 secondsSo he has a tendency to do do that.
33:4133 minutes, 41 secondsHe's like not finished with one project yet, and he, then he gets really excited about another one.
33:4633 minutes, 46 secondsHave you heard of a script that he wrote called The Be I've heard of it, but that's all I know is that I heard something about it, but it never happened.
33:5633 minutes, 56 secondsRight.
33:5733 minutes, 57 secondsIt was just something that he wrote. Yeah. yeah, it unmade Live Action, slapstick Comedy about a Be Who Constantly
34:0434 minutes, 4 secondsDistracts a developer who is almost done building his latest project at this time. That was the type of movie John Hughes was involved with.
34:1334 minutes, 13 secondsAll of these, like Dennis the Manis Baby's Day Out you know, like there was Home Alone three I'm missing several more that are just not coming to mind.
34:2334 minutes, 23 secondsJust not, not good replications of the Home Alone formula. So, so anyway.
34:3134 minutes, 31 secondsIf you have not seen Babies' Day Out, which I hadn't had, have you seen this before? Watching it for the show?
34:3634 minutes, 36 secondsNo, I had heard of it, but I had never seen it or knew anything about it other than it follows a baby that wanders through the city and comedy ensues.
34:5034 minutes, 50 secondsYes, that's exactly what it's about.
34:5234 minutes, 52 secondsBabies' Day Out follows a wealthy family's infant who's kidnapped by three bumbling criminals only for the baby to crawl his way through a citywide adventure
35:0335 minutes, 3 secondsunknowingly outsmarting them, and a return as the crook struggled to keep up.
35:0835 minutes, 8 secondsThe baby follows the path of his favorite storybook titled Baby's Day Out, turning Their Plan into a Chaotic Slapstick Nightmare.
35:1835 minutes, 18 secondsSo on its face, that sounds like not a bad kids movie, right?
35:2435 minutes, 24 secondsLike if you just read the synopsis of Home Alone, it doesn't sound that dissimilar like a, like an 8-year-old, like outwitting these bumbling criminals.
35:3435 minutes, 34 secondsBut there was just, there was something special and magical about that, that he Hughes was just not able to replicate with any of these
35:4135 minutes, 41 secondsother one-off or even subsequent like home alone three, not good, Really not good.
35:4935 minutes, 49 secondsSo this, I will say as a spoiler, I like Baby's Day Out significantly more than home Alone three.
35:5935 minutes, 59 secondsI have not seen Home Alone three, so I can't say on that one.
36:0336 minutes, 3 secondsAlthough I, I, this is a problem I think a lot of filmmakers and movie studios have, is they have something successful and then they just kinda rehash it over and over again.
36:1436 minutes, 14 secondsIt gets tired over time and it's not funny anymore because it's funny, the first time you see it, Yes. you know, it's not funny jokes.
36:2236 minutes, 22 secondsYou know, you see somebody slip and fall and, and hit their nuts on something, first time around, it's funny.
36:2936 minutes, 29 secondsHit the third or fourth time around, it's not funny anymore because you know the humor. You know it. And, and that's what this is exactly.
36:3636 minutes, 36 secondsThere's so many recycled comedic slapstick bits from home alone in this film.
36:4236 minutes, 42 secondsIt's it, and at least in home alone, you've got the Macaulay Culkin's character outwitting these On purpose.
36:5036 minutes, 50 secondson purpose. Exactly.
36:5136 minutes, 51 secondsSo you can, you can root for this is just a baby crawling around in the street that somehow magically never gets seen by like anyone in this entire city except for like two people at various points.
37:0437 minutes, 4 secondsSo, Yeah, it's, harder.
37:0637 minutes, 6 secondsSo I don't that's where the, like him not being seen, I mean like everybody's just so busy with their life that they don't,
37:1437 minutes, 14 secondsThey don't see a baby crawling directly underneath their feet, Yeah.
37:1737 minutes, 17 secondsOr crawling across a busy street or anything.
37:2037 minutes, 20 secondsI mean, so that's where like the cartoonish it's, it's sort of like Looney Tunes in that way, combined with a lot of the slapstick stuff.
37:2837 minutes, 28 secondsWe'll get into our thoughts, but let's talk about the cast and some of the players for in the movie.
37:3437 minutes, 34 secondsAnd I will say the cast is probably why I like this movie way more than like Dennis the Menace or Home Alone three, for example.
37:4737 minutes, 47 secondsThe baby is played by twins that you wouldn't know. But that's, that was common practice. Adam, Robert Wharton and Jacob Joseph Wharton, and the baby's name here.
37:5737 minutes, 57 secondsRich kid name Bennington, Austin, AKA bank caught, well, IV fourth, his mother is
38:0638 minutes, 6 secondsplayed by Laura Flynn Boyle it was kind of a different role for her, I guess.
38:1238 minutes, 12 secondsShe had gone on to play kind of more high powered women and not like a mother and wife, but she was fine. She, she was not outstanding.
38:2038 minutes, 20 secondsLike she's not one of the cast that I was like, oh my gosh, they're so good. Oh, and the father here is let's see, what's his name?
38:2838 minutes, 28 secondsMatthew gla and he plays Bennington, Bing, not bank, but Bing caught while ii. He's a familiar face.
38:3738 minutes, 37 secondsDid you recognize him. Yeah. He's, he's popped up in a lot of stuff over the years. Mm-hmm. A lot of TV work.
38:4538 minutes, 45 secondsRight.
38:4638 minutes, 46 secondsAnd I, a lot of these, so I've seen er, but I don't recall him from er, but that's probably his most notable role.
38:5238 minutes, 52 secondsHe was Dr. Dale Edson as a recurring character on er, and I feel like I've seen the show Army Wives, but I didn't really get into it, but I feel like I've seen it.
39:0339 minutes, 3 secondsHe played Lieutenant Colonel Evan Connors on that, and he's currently on the TV show, the Rookie.
39:1139 minutes, 11 secondsSo that is Matthew Gla the dad. yeah. Yeah. Done a few movies and stuff. Yeah, he's got a lot of credits to his name. He's one of those.
39:1939 minutes, 19 secondsYou'd totally recognize him.
39:2039 minutes, 20 secondsHe is not a big name, so you'd be like, oh, I know that guy, but I don't know his name.
39:2539 minutes, 25 secondsHe's know his face though, for sure. Yeah. He's very recommend.
39:3039 minutes, 30 secondsDid you like our criminals You know, it's, I, I like those actors.
39:3739 minutes, 37 secondsI mean, I don't, I don't know Brian Healy at all from this.
39:3939 minutes, 39 secondsThis is the only thing I've ever seen him and he plays kind of the big doofus one, but Joe Montia and Joe Pan Panio, Yeah.
39:4939 minutes, 49 secondsIt's hard to, it's a, it's a mouth of panto.
39:5339 minutes, 53 secondsPantano, yeah, there you go. Joey.
39:5639 minutes, 56 secondsJoey Packed obviously are brilliant and I mean, and you know, Joe Pano, you know, can do comedy from the Goonies, right?
40:0640 minutes, 6 secondsBecause he was so good in that and he's got range. And Joe Monteya is good because you think of him as more of a dramatic actor.
40:1540 minutes, 15 secondsAnd so to see him doing slap sticky comedy kind of stuff, it's fun to see him as well. So I, I thought the both of them were brilliant.
40:2340 minutes, 23 secondsYeah, Brian was fine too, but again, he just kind of plays the big kind of goon, he had some fun moments though.
40:3040 minutes, 30 secondsSo yeah, so Joe Mont Montana plays like kind of the head goon, right? His name is Eddie. He's in the Criminal Minds TV show, which I don't watch.
40:4040 minutes, 40 secondsBut he's gotten pretty, like, he's a well-known name, maybe from that. He voices Fat Tony on The Simpsons.
40:4640 minutes, 46 secondsI don't watch that show either, but if anybody knows that of his earlier roles, he well, maybe not one of his earlier, but godfather three was that 1990.
40:5740 minutes, 57 secondsAnd he, Was it that late?
40:5840 minutes, 58 secondsThat it might've been, ah, but he plays, right.
41:0341 minutes, 3 secondsLike I, yeah, I mean, it was, I'm thinking late eighties, but maybe it was 1990. Yeah. I could be wrong. No, I think you're right.
41:0941 minutes, 9 secondsYou're, I, plays Joey Zaza in that. And he was nominated for some Emmys for things I have not seen.
41:1741 minutes, 17 secondsHe played Dean Martin in the Rat Pack and then some other miniseries movies or specials that he was nominated for the Starter Wife and the last Dawn.
41:2741 minutes, 27 secondsBut every, you know, Joe Nia very specifically, so he plays Eddie the main bad guy and like maybe secondhand guy is Norby, and that's Joey Pants.
41:4241 minutes, 42 secondsI love him, if he's in something, I think. This, I'm not used to seeing him in this kind of a thing. Same with Joe Montia.
41:5141 minutes, 51 secondsBut Bad Boys, he's really comedic in that he plays their like their boss. Right? Yeah. Yeah. Uhhuh. Yeah, he's good in that.
42:0042 minutesSuper well-known character actor. I was just talking with someone about the movie Lab Baba.
42:0742 minutes, 7 secondsSo this came to mind, he plays Richie Valent's manager in Lab Baba.
42:1242 minutes, 12 secondsAnd we talked about him last season on our Kurt Russell and Patrick Svey season because he was in the main season with Kurt Russell.
42:2342 minutes, 23 secondsI bet you have not seen that I have not seen that movie. No.
42:2742 minutes, 27 secondsJoey is in that now Vico is played by Brian Haley, and he's the lesser known. I think he has a familiar face also.
42:3642 minutes, 36 secondsI thought he was somebody else.
42:3842 minutes, 38 seconds'cause he does have a familiar face and I'm like, oh, is that that such and such guy?
42:4142 minutes, 41 secondsAnd then I looked him up a little bit and I'm like, Nope, that's not the guy I was thinking of at Okay.
42:4642 minutes, 46 secondsHe was in Grand a ton of stuff though. Yeah.
42:4842 minutes, 48 secondsLike nothing real big, I guess. He did have a recurring, I, I saw that he had a recurring role on the TV show wings.
42:5642 minutes, 56 secondsLike that's probably the most episodes of a TV show he had.
42:5942 minutes, 59 secondsHe's also in Little Giants, which I can't really picture right now, but I actually kind of got a kick out of Vico several times.
43:0743 minutes, 7 secondsJust little things that he would do, like , they just kidnapped the baby and it's three criminals taking care of a baby.
43:1643 minutes, 16 secondsLike that part of it. I was like, oh, this is kind of funny. I'm like, this is, I like this. That's funny. They don't know what they're doing. It's like three men and a baby, but criminal version.
43:2643 minutes, 26 secondsAnd in that, the scene where they're trying to change his diaper and get milk warmed up for him or whatever Vico is shown eating fruit loops, but he
43:3643 minutes, 36 secondsoverfills his bowl like the mound of cereal, and he's holding it with his hand, like trying to keep it in the bowl while he's pouring milk on it.
43:4443 minutes, 44 secondsAnd I mean, it was just something very specific. But I, I don't know. I, I kind of liked some of those little things that these guys do.
43:5143 minutes, 51 secondsNow, because these are rich people, there's a nanny and Cynthia Nixon plays the nanny.
43:5843 minutes, 58 secondsApparently her name is Gilbert team, but do you recall them ever saying I don't recall them ever saying your name.
44:0544 minutes, 5 secondsNo, don't either. She's blonde in this, she's much younger. And is she supposed to be British? I think she's supposed to be British.
44:1444 minutes, 14 secondsShe definitely uses a bit of an accent in it.
44:1744 minutes, 17 secondsI wasn't sure if it was like rich, posh, Well, maybe that's it. Yeah, I was going with that. She was like the British nanny because that's what you do if you're rich.
44:2544 minutes, 25 secondsYou hire a British nanny to take care of your child for you. Mm-hmm. So I wasn't entirely sure, but yeah, she's probably supposed to be British.
44:3444 minutes, 34 secondsObviously Cynthia Nixon most famous for playing Miranda on Sex in the city.
44:3944 minutes, 39 secondsWe have a very FBI agent esque actor here playing an FBI agent Dale Grissom is Fred Thompson.
44:4944 minutes, 49 secondsPretty much anytime you need somebody to play a cop in any form, you hire Fred Thompson. If you look over his history, that's kind of very similar types of roles.
44:5944 minutes, 59 secondsMm-hmm. he's perfect for that kind of role.
45:0245 minutes, 2 secondsWe talked about him on the Curly suit episode, and now I'm like, was he a cop in that?
45:0745 minutes, 7 secondsI can't recall now.
45:0845 minutes, 8 secondsBut probably, again, these are rich people, so they have a butler and I don't think they say his name in it either, but he's credited as Mr.
45:1645 minutes, 16 secondsAndrews played by John Neville.
45:1945 minutes, 19 secondsAlso familiar face, like there's a lot of these people in this that you're like, I know that person.
45:2545 minutes, 25 secondsBut I couldn't find a show or a movie that I was like, yes, that's what I know him from. But he had a recurring guest role on the X-Files.
45:3345 minutes, 33 secondsOh yeah. Okay.
45:3545 minutes, 35 secondsYeah, Did you recognize the guy that the police, he's like, oh, I saw the baby. And then he's just really trying to get a payday. And he's like, oh, just across the street.
45:4445 minutes, 44 secondsI remember the guy. No. Was I supposed to recognize him? Yes.
45:4745 minutes, 47 secondsOh, who is Mike Starr is his name, Uhhuh. He's a, a very familiar character actor.
45:5445 minutes, 54 secondsLike he's tall, Burley has this deep voice.
45:5745 minutes, 57 secondsHe usually plays mobsters or police officers or, or like blue collar workers or tough guys.
46:0646 minutes, 6 secondsAnd bar, huh?
46:0846 minutes, 8 secondsMike Starr with two Rs he played Frenchy and Goodfellas. Oh geez. I do recognize him now.
46:1746 minutes, 17 secondsLike I just looked him up. I did not put this together when I watched it, but he, you're right. I totally recognize him.
46:2446 minutes, 24 secondsI just looked him up on I mdb and his like from his picture. Mm-hmm. Yeah. Totally recognizable. He.
46:3146 minutes, 31 secondsWe talked about him in the Uncle Buck episode because he plays the clown that John Candy.
46:3746 minutes, 37 secondsI think he punches him out when he comes or something. 'cause he's a very obnoxious clown.
46:4346 minutes, 43 secondsThere's two other not like they're in it for just a short while, but I wanted to bring them up because we've covered them.
46:5046 minutes, 50 secondsThey're Hughes movie alums that he comes back to several times. One is Eddie Bracken, and this was his final live action film.
47:0047 minutesEddie Bracken was the like the older man in the veteran's home. Oh, that guy. Okay. Yeah.
47:0847 minutes, 8 secondsHe played basically Walt Disney in vacation.
47:1347 minutes, 13 secondsand he was also, I think the toy store owner in, was it home Alone too?
47:2247 minutes, 22 secondsHmm. the toy store owner in home alone. Two. Eddie Bracken. So he just likes throwing him in these little spots throughout his films.
47:3047 minutes, 30 secondsThat's cool. And also Neil Flynn. We just talked about him 'cause he also played a police officer in home alone.
47:3847 minutes, 38 secondsThree.
47:3947 minutes, 39 secondsSo Neil Flynn Ooh. Yeah.
47:4147 minutes, 41 secondsNeil Flynn's police officer. Yeah. most famous for Scrubs. That's Neil Flynn. Yes.
47:4847 minutes, 48 secondsBruce Bratton, I don't know if I'm saying that properly, but he did the
47:5247 minutes, 52 secondsscore, the music for this, which we have talked about him before because he also
47:5947 minutes, 59 secondsdid the score also in 1994 with John Hughes Miracle on 34th Street and last season Tombstone, he scored tombstone.
48:0948 minutes, 9 secondsHe tore, he scored tombstone.
48:1248 minutes, 12 secondsI would not have put those together because, I mean, tombstone is such a fantastic film.
48:1748 minutes, 17 secondsTo go from that to this but I will say the music really plays a role in this film.
48:2448 minutes, 24 secondsLike throughout the entire thing, you notice it and it really goes along with the slap stick and comedic to help highlight the,, the film.
48:3448 minutes, 34 secondsIt is noticeable and we even talked about that when we watched it.
48:3648 minutes, 36 secondsWe're like, you really notice the how the music plays a role in this Mm-hmm.
48:4148 minutes, 41 secondsHe only had three weeks to score this also because originally Jerry Goldsmith, Oscar winning composer was slated to score this.
48:5248 minutes, 52 secondsBut he had to bow out. He was doing the shadow also in 1994. I don't know what that is.
48:5948 minutes, 59 secondsIt's it's kind of a superhero action film starring the shadow. The shadow. So Bruce was brought in to score this.
49:0849 minutes, 8 secondsAnd then other movies that you'd know him from Harry and The Hendersons. Oh, the movie? Yeah. All right.
49:1549 minutes, 15 secondsDisney's Rescuers down under, as well as Homeward Bound God that'll Get You right. yeah.
49:2349 minutes, 23 secondsI love those rescuers movies. Mm-hmm.
49:2649 minutes, 26 secondsyeah, And also Bruce got an Oscar nomination for his score of Silverado, which I have not seen.
49:3349 minutes, 33 secondsAnd also the 1994 version of the 20th Century Fox Fanfare sound.
49:4149 minutes, 41 secondsOh, the, the sound effect that Oh, wow. Good for him. Yeah, so that's Bruce Broughton Broten.
49:4949 minutes, 49 secondsI don't know how to properly pronounce that. Someone might correct me if I am wrong. Okay. So this movie did not make money.
49:5849 minutes, 58 secondsIt lost money. There were contrary dollar figures. So I read both 17 million gross as well as 30 million gross.
50:0950 minutes, 9 secondsEither way, failure, because its budget was nearly 50 million, 48 million to be exact,
50:1750 minutes, 17 secondsWh where did that money go on this film? Wow.
50:2250 minutes, 22 secondsAt the time it was unheard of for a film that didn't have any major leading stars in the cast to get a budget like that.
50:3250 minutes, 32 secondsYeah. Yeah.
50:3250 minutes, 32 secondsThey were all, I mean, their names that we've recognized, and I know Laura Flynn Boyle was pretty big in the, in the nineties, but there's still no way. None of them would've gotten that huge of a paycheck.
50:4250 minutes, 42 secondsThis is the first film of his three picture, $50 million contract with Fox, which produced this movie, miracle on 34th Street and Home Alone.
50:5350 minutes, 53 secondsThree. Oh, Fox must have been pissed. Yep.
50:5650 minutes, 56 secondsBecause all of those were box office failures They're like, oh, we got him after his prime.
51:0451 minutes, 4 secondsDemi. the Let's capitalize on this home alone business. Can you just make that over and over again?
51:1051 minutes, 10 secondsNow, clearly the way that the movie ends, it is set up for a sequel, right? Mm-hmm. Babies Trip to China.
51:2051 minutes, 20 secondsThat was a planned sequel, but it did get canceled. Milo. Yeah.
51:2651 minutes, 26 secondsyeah, so both commercially clearly, but also critically derided so
51:3151 minutes, 31 secondsthe sequel got scrapped, but they used it to dissuade criminals from stealing a much more popular
51:4051 minutes, 40 secondsprint I heard this of a movie in, in 97.
51:4551 minutes, 45 secondsSo, so it did technically exist for a time in 97, but as a way of throwing off would
51:5151 minutes, 51 secondsbe thieves from stealing prints meant to be sent to theaters because it was used to obscure its actual movies title, which was.
52:0452 minutes, 4 secondsYes. That's wild.
52:0652 minutes, 6 secondsThat theater it doesn't, They're like, nobody's gonna steal Prince of Baby's Day out too.
52:1152 minutes, 11 secondsSo let's the Prince of Titanic in that but is this a thing that was happening that they had to you know, make plans against?
52:1952 minutes, 19 secondsApparently, apparently I wasn't aware that that was an issue, a thing, but apparently so. That's our cast of characters.
52:2752 minutes, 27 secondsThat's who made Baby's day out. I hadn't seen this. You hadn't either.
52:3252 minutes, 32 secondsWhat were your expectations going in and did your watching experience differ from your expectations?
52:4052 minutes, 40 secondsso I tried to go in, 'cause again, I hadn't watched the trailer or anything like that. I just knew the basics of the plot.
52:4752 minutes, 47 secondsAnd so I tried to go in looking at it from the point of view of like, if I was a parent watching this with my kid, type of an attitude, would I appreciate this.
52:5652 minutes, 56 secondsI even struggled with that.
52:5752 minutes, 57 secondsI feel like if I was watching it with a child, the child probably would've been bored Mm-hmm. this film in lost interest.
53:0553 minutes, 5 secondsIt does have good moments and there were things that I picked up, like I mentioned, the music I thought was really nicely done throughout.
53:1153 minutes, 11 secondsAs you mentioned, great actors probably struggling to, to do this convincingly.
53:1953 minutes, 19 secondsThey're like and I, and I appreciated the fact that now if this were made, they probably would've c gid a lot of it. Mm-hmm.
53:2553 minutes, 25 secondsSo they actually did really good work with putting the baby in situations, I'm sure a lot of green screen and angles.
53:3353 minutes, 33 secondsAnd, you know, there, I think there's a scene that looks like a pretty obvious animatronic baby crossing that the first beam when the baby leaves the, the first
53:4253 minutes, 42 secondsbuilding that they're in and crosses that little beam before Joe Montan falls. That looked kind of animatronic.
53:5053 minutes, 50 secondsHe was very like but in general I do think they did a really good job with the way it was shot and the special effects.
53:5653 minutes, 56 secondsSo like that kind of stuff I keyed in, Mm-hmm.
54:0054 minutesbut I struggle with my suspension and disbelief with the number of times that these guys would be dead from their various falls and injuries and stuff like that.
54:1154 minutes, 11 secondsI thought the gorilla was nicely done too, actually.
54:1454 minutes, 14 secondsLike it was very believably done, gorilla costume, It's beyond man and a gorilla suit. While there, like there were operators of it.
54:2354 minutes, 23 secondsI wanna say it was in like a much more dramatic movie, also, like Gorillas in the Mist or something like that. That might, but, but yeah, they did a great job with Gorilla.
54:3254 minutes, 32 secondsYeah.
54:3254 minutes, 32 secondsYeah, it was really very believably looking like, it wasn't like just some dude in a gorilla costume essentially. So it had a lot of good qualities to it.
54:4154 minutes, 41 secondsBut yeah, it is just some of these prank falls and injuries, I'm just like, I'm just not buying it.
54:4754 minutes, 47 secondsLike I'm not buying their lack of extreme injuries, and I couldn't buy into the fact that nobody in the city sees this fricking child crawling around all over the place.
54:5754 minutes, 57 secondsWho, by the way, why is this child's hands not black by the end of crawling around on the ground, you I know. Oh my God.
55:0455 minutes, 4 secondsIt's not like Ferris Bueller, but in that we kind of get a tour of Chicago through the movie like we did with Ris Bueller and obviously John Hughes Chicago.
55:1655 minutes, 16 secondsYes, go on. It, it was just, it is that that balance of trying to buy into this world for a
55:2455 minutes, 24 secondsfamily, sitting down and watching it, and I think maybe if it would've been animated, it actually would've been better Mm-hmm. because then you could buy into that a little bit.
55:3455 minutes, 34 secondsYeah.
55:3555 minutes, 35 seconds'cause there were a lot of cartoony elements to it. However, part of me wants to play the devil's advocate in that.
55:4455 minutes, 44 secondsWell, you could say the same about Marvin Harry with, you know, what happens to them in home alone?
55:5355 minutes, 53 secondsThey'd also be dead several times. Right? So why, why are we okay with it for home alone and not for baby? Stay out.
56:0156 minutes, 1 secondAnd I think part of it has to do with, we saw it for the first time in home alone, Mm, this, we're just seeing it again. good point. You know, maybe that has something to do with it.
56:1056 minutes, 10 secondsAnd I feel like they try to do it up a bit more.
56:1356 minutes, 13 secondsLike the heights of these buildings that these guys fall from is, I mean, yes, in home alone, they're falling down a flight of stairs.
56:2056 minutes, 20 secondsThey're not flying, falling from like a 20 story construction site and surviving.
56:2756 minutes, 27 secondsSo I feel like it's more extreme and more obvious in this in home alone, you can be like okay, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll buy into Yeah, that's true.
56:3656 minutes, 36 secondsIt's almost like you have to up the ante though so that it's not just 'cause as I talked about in Home Alone, three, there were far more hijinks and pranks with the bad guys.
56:5056 minutes, 50 secondsThere were also four bad guys in that.
56:5356 minutes, 53 secondsUm, Of bad guys too. yes, but it didn't, I was bored by it. It just kept going and going and going.
57:0157 minutes, 1 secondI will say I hear you.
57:0457 minutes, 4 secondsAnd I think in the pro column, not having it CGI, 'cause that shit bugs the fuck outta me.
57:1257 minutes, 12 secondsI watched tangent, I watched nobody two with Bob Odenkirk Oh, don't tell me it's not good.
57:1857 minutes, 18 seconds'cause I, I love nobody and it's on nobody too iss on my watch list. I just haven't watched it yet. Yes. I, I really liked nobody.
57:2657 minutes, 26 secondsI love Bob Odenkirk. It's not always the case.
57:2957 minutes, 29 secondsLike the first scene I was like, oh fuck, the fighting is all CGI and it just looked like a video game and I was pissed.
57:3957 minutes, 39 secondsBut it does get better. There's very clear CGI like, so that takes me out of it. I'm like, I'm watching a video game. Yeah.
57:4757 minutes, 47 secondsBut the whole movie's not that bad, but the first scene is really bad, CGI it. so I only bring that up to say I am so glad that these were practical effects.
57:5857 minutes, 58 secondsIt, it's just, it's just better. The baby, I did wanna point out one of the, maybe the stunt double was Vern Troyer.
58:0858 minutes, 8 secondsDid you see that? I saw that. Yeah, I saw that in the trivia. So that's interesting. But yes, I'm sure it was also like a fake baby.
58:1558 minutes, 15 secondsOr like a adult, but like the, but also in the pro column. The things that this, I don't know. Is this a real book by the way?
58:2458 minutes, 24 secondsIs Baby's Day Out a real book?
58:2658 minutes, 26 secondsI don't I should have looked.
58:2758 minutes, 27 secondsWhether or not it's a real book, it probably is not a real book, but in the movie, the baby reads this book every day, before nap time.
58:3658 minutes, 36 secondsAnd it's this baby's day out in the city of Chicago. And so that's how the baby just kind of follows the scenes in the book.
58:4358 minutes, 43 seconds'cause, you know, he can figure out how to get from point A to point B, but Conveniently, it seems to work out every time.
58:4958 minutes, 49 secondsthere's a taxi, there's a bus, there's a department store, there's a zoo, there's, what am I missing? A construction site.
58:5658 minutes, 56 secondsSo I think for me, the fact that the pranks and, and how these guys get in trouble was different enough for me.
59:0659 minutes, 6 secondsLike I kind of enjoyed that, that it wasn't just regurgitating things from home alone, but there were a lot of very similar things.
59:1559 minutes, 15 secondsBut yes, they'd be dead. Immediately. Yeah. Let's see. Yeah, the realistic effects. What else did you say?
59:2359 minutes, 23 secondsI will say you are not wrong, and maybe I was trying to find good in this.
59:3059 minutes, 30 secondsI went in with zero expectations. I had no idea what I was in for, except that I was like, I did see that it
59:3859 minutes, 38 secondshad a, a fairly high IMDB rating, so I was like, Hmm, it can't be abysmal.
59:4759 minutes, 47 secondsSo I watched it and it actually exceeded my zero expectations. I enjoyed it more than I thought I was going to.
59:5659 minutes, 56 secondsAnd I think it's because some of the things I just mentioned but also the bad guys, I loved them.
1:00:031 hour, 3 secondsI mean there's the very standard formulaic bad guy. Like bad guys in particularly in John Hughes movies are very cartoonish. They're bumbling.
1:00:111 hour, 11 secondsThere's infighting. But I think, so that's at play here.
1:00:151 hour, 15 secondsBut these guys, and maybe it's 'cause they're solid, good actors that they gave us good performances despite the movie that they were in.
1:00:261 hour, 26 secondsAnd I liked the dynamic between the three of them. I found them fun and funny.
1:00:321 hour, 32 secondsSo much so that I was rooting for them to catch the baby in every scene. 'cause they just miss him.
1:00:401 hour, 40 secondsThey always just missed the baby who is escaping their grasp. So, I mean, that's kind of my overall thoughts about it.
1:00:481 hour, 48 secondsWhat do you think about that, Milo? no, I agree. You make valid points and, and I agree.
1:00:521 hour, 52 secondsI think if he would've had worse actors playing the bad guys, it really would've detracted from the
1:00:591 hour, 59 secondsmovie because, and especially Joe Mont and I thought his vis his face expressions at various points when he's getting injured, just the, the wing of the eyes and very cartoony.
1:01:111 hour, 1 minute, 11 secondsSo it was really fun to watch some of their reactions when they're being injured.
1:01:171 hour, 1 minute, 17 secondsAnd like the bit on the park bench, which again, so unbelievable of where he is on the park bench and he's got the baby under his coat on his lap.
1:01:261 hour, 1 minute, 26 secondsThen somehow the baby manages to get ahold of his zippo, light, the zippo, and then light his, you know, the crotch of his pants on fire, that little bit
1:01:351 hour, 1 minute, 35 secondswhere he's just kind of playing with it and I thought was really well done and funny, but again, so unbelievable that I'm like, I, I want to laugh at this because he's being really funny about it.
1:01:471 hour, 1 minute, 47 secondsBut how are these cops, A, that stupid? Yes.
1:01:511 hour, 1 minute, 51 secondshow did this child light a zippo, like as an adult, we struggle to light zippos you know, there's no way the kid is gonna be able to flick the little thing to light it.
1:02:011 hour, 2 minutes, 1 secondHe's nine months old, so he doesn't even walk or talk. Right. No, he, uh, he can stand at a couple points.
1:02:081 hour, 2 minutes, 8 secondsHe, he holds himself up and I will say props to them for getting the performance out of the baby. They did a lot of good shots of this child like turning and looking and reacting.
1:02:191 hour, 2 minutes, 19 secondsI'm sure must have taken a long time.
1:02:201 hour, 2 minutes, 20 secondsThere's the scene with the baby where he falls asleep with the gorilla and then they have to kind of pull the baby away from the gorilla while the baby's still asleep.
1:02:291 hour, 2 minutes, 29 secondsSo they must have had to wait for the baby to fall asleep and then be sound asleep before they could shoot this.
1:02:351 hour, 2 minutes, 35 secondsSo they're just probably sitting around the set being as quiet as possible, waiting for this child to fall asleep so they could shoot this little scene.
1:02:431 hour, 2 minutes, 43 secondsI actually in my mind, wondered how they got that, like, how is the baby not not making up? Yeah. Yeah. Probably.
1:02:491 hour, 2 minutes, 49 secondsI mean, in the nineties? Yeah. Yeah, the baby was good. If you've listened to m at all, you guys know I'm not a big fan of kids in movies.
1:02:571 hour, 2 minutes, 57 secondsThere are exceptions. This being a baby, I think helped. Like, he couldn't be annoying. He's not talking yet. He's very cute too.
1:03:071 hour, 3 minutes, 7 secondsLike the baby, there's a baby at the end of, she's having a baby that we just covered. And it's not a cute baby.
1:03:121 hour, 3 minutes, 12 secondsI know that makes me sound like a horrible person, but a lot of babies just aren't cute. And so thankfully they got a cute baby for this. Yeah.
1:03:201 hour, 3 minutes, 20 secondsThey did a good job with the two, the casting of the two, two little boys that played the Mm-hmm. But they didn't do anything after that.
1:03:281 hour, 3 minutes, 28 secondsNo, yeah, I looked them up. This was, that's their only credit, really. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Interesting. I guess they decided, they were like, we had our experience.
1:03:361 hour, 3 minutes, 36 secondsWe're getting out of the business. Yeah. Yeah. Peak at nine months.
1:03:401 hour, 3 minutes, 40 secondsI did notice something that popped out to me is the, like the place that they're hiding out.
1:03:471 hour, 3 minutes, 47 secondsI don't know if it's their apartment, the bad guys that like clock tower thing that they're in, if that's where they live, or if that's just their heidi hole, What I, I feel like it's.
1:03:561 hour, 3 minutes, 56 secondsI kind of got the vibe that they maybe lived there hide. Yeah.
1:03:591 hour, 3 minutes, 59 secondsIt was hard to tell if they lived there or they were just using it as a hideout, but it was well furnished for being a hideout.
1:04:061 hour, 4 minutes, 6 secondsAgain, how the police and stuff came, I don't, you know, if we should spoil this for audiences, No, go ahead.
1:04:131 hour, 4 minutes, 13 secondsyou know, the, the fact that like they're driving down the road and conveniently drive past this building, that then the baby is conveniently looking out the
1:04:211 hour, 4 minutes, 21 secondswindow and conveniently says Baba or whatever the keyword is for the, for the, Boo Boo or or something like that. Bbo.
1:04:291 hour, 4 minutes, 29 secondsAnd and they're, and they just like, oh, oh, this building. And keep in mind it's an entire building as well.
1:04:371 hour, 4 minutes, 37 secondsSo not only do they surround the entire building and the the bad guys come out, just hard time buying into it.
1:04:441 hour, 4 minutes, 44 secondsWell, and that scene shows the bad guy's like recovering from their insane injuries throughout the course of this happens in one day,
1:04:531 hour, 4 minutes, 53 secondsbut the, they're at a point where they're afraid of the baby now because he's caused so much havoc to their wellbeing that they're like, oh, we, we don't want anything to do with him now.
1:05:031 hour, 5 minutes, 3 secondsSo they raise their hands and get arrested.
1:05:051 hour, 5 minutes, 5 secondsWhen they show that, whereas going with that is it must have really been there where they shot it.
1:05:101 hour, 5 minutes, 10 secondsThere's a Woolworths, are you familiar with that store at I am, I remember when being a little kid, we, a house we lived in, there was a Woolworth a couple blocks away from where we lived.
1:05:231 hour, 5 minutes, 23 secondsAnd I remember being a little kid and going to the Woolworth.
1:05:261 hour, 5 minutes, 26 secondsYeah, it's like for listeners, it's an old department store, but it was precursor to, I dunno, but it wasn't the thing with Woolworths, it was,
1:05:341 hour, 5 minutes, 34 secondsit was like a sears slash target or whatever, but much smaller and and it wasn't, it supposed, wasn't it shtick like, like affordability.
1:05:431 hour, 5 minutes, 43 secondsIt was called like the Five and Dime.
1:05:451 hour, 5 minutes, 45 secondsLike they used to have they used to call things the Five and Dime store and it had a lunch counter too in it.
1:05:521 hour, 5 minutes, 52 secondsYeah, some of them did our, the, I don't remember the one that we went to having with, I remember like they had a toy section.
1:05:591 hour, 5 minutes, 59 seconds'cause as a kid of course you're like, oh, go to the toy section at Woolworth and get some kind of toy, a cap gun or something.
1:06:061 hour, 6 minutes, 6 secondsour small town had one and I, it must have closed when I was very small because I only have super vague memories.
1:06:131 hour, 6 minutes, 13 secondsLike I can picture where it is and the sign in our downtown and I can picture the lunch counter and that's about it.
1:06:221 hour, 6 minutes, 22 secondsBut it was a thing. And so this is 94 and there's still a Woolworths. So I looked up when they closed their last store.
1:06:311 hour, 6 minutes, 31 secondsDo you know what year that was? Milo?
1:06:341 hour, 6 minutes, 34 secondsIt's probably one of those scenarios where they closed 'em all except for one that stayed open until 2002. You're close.
1:06:431 hour, 6 minutes, 43 seconds97.
1:06:441 hour, 6 minutes, 44 secondsOh, But it had would've worked. yeah, it had over I think I read over 400 stores at one time in the US I think.
1:06:521 hour, 6 minutes, 52 secondsAnd so yeah. yeah.
1:06:541 hour, 6 minutes, 54 secondsI think they were kinda like the precursor to the big chain stores that, that we Like a Walmart. Mm-hmm. Exactly. They were the precursor to that.
1:07:021 hour, 7 minutes, 2 secondsYeah, you're right. So do you think that this the ridiculous nature of it, accidentally stumbled into the entertaining category.
1:07:141 hour, 7 minutes, 14 secondsWas this kind of a slog for you to get through or, It was it.
1:07:191 hour, 7 minutes, 19 secondsI, and here's, you mentioned it right in the opening, the, it goes a bit long, and I think this is where that conflict between the director and John Hughes.
1:07:291 hour, 7 minutes, 29 secondsCame out and they both probably just like, you know what? Screw it. Here's the film.
1:07:331 hour, 7 minutes, 33 secondsWe won't edit it down, or we won't, you know, trim it up to get the pacing in or dial it in.
1:07:391 hour, 7 minutes, 39 secondsBecause I think if it, they would've, they could've done a bit more with the edit, that would've tightened it up and it wouldn't have felt so long because you're getting towards the end and you're like, oh, come another prank fall.
1:07:521 hour, 7 minutes, 52 secondsOh, another time of these guys falling and getting smacked on the head by something. Ah. You know, like, when is it gonna end? You are right.
1:08:001 hour, 8 minutesEach place they go, you know, the zoo, the park, the construction site lasted a little too long.
1:08:091 hour, 8 minutes, 9 secondsIf each of those were tightened up a bit, I think it would have a a better effect It would've helped. possibly.
1:08:171 hour, 8 minutes, 17 secondsSo that would've helped.
1:08:191 hour, 8 minutes, 19 secondsWhat did you think of the ransom it was $5 million ransom. Is what they're planning.
1:08:251 hour, 8 minutes, 25 secondsI don't know why, because everything is potentially, because everything is so expensive and there's billionaires now that I was like, $5 million.
1:08:341 hour, 8 minutes, 34 secondsYou got, you're, you're, you're, short changing. Yeah, you're short.
1:08:361 hour, 8 minutes, 36 secondsYou're short changing. Split between three too. So I'm like, you're short changing yourselves here year. Yeah.
1:08:421 hour, 8 minutes, 42 secondsI guess they had to, maybe this family is rich but not as rich or how much access, but 1994, maybe 5 million.
1:08:511 hour, 8 minutes, 51 secondsIt seems like back then that would've been the right amount to ask for. Yeah. I didn't give that too much thought.
1:08:571 hour, 8 minutes, 57 secondsBut you're right Now it'd be like, I want 5 billion or something. Million, billion dollars. at least like 20 million or so.
1:09:051 hour, 9 minutes, 5 secondsI don't know why the, I was like, 5 million seems low. Yeah. Well, they weren't the best criminals.
1:09:111 hour, 9 minutes, 11 secondsI think they established they were dufus, so maybe they just didn't realize they should have asked for more. That's true.
1:09:181 hour, 9 minutes, 18 secondsSo, let's see, which episode was it? Actually I think it was the Home Alone three episode. I don't know that much about Cisco and Ebert I don't know their dynamic really.
1:09:281 hour, 9 minutes, 28 secondsBut in that episode we talked about how there was a massive disagreement in terms of how they rated it and they thought each other were crazy.
1:09:361 hour, 9 minutes, 36 secondsWell, that happened here too in their ratings, but it was swapped.
1:09:411 hour, 9 minutes, 41 secondsSo I just love this drama with Cisco and Ebert that apparently is a thing that I was unaware of.
1:09:481 hour, 9 minutes, 48 secondsSo although he normally did not enjoy films which showed children or infants
1:09:531 hour, 9 minutes, 53 secondsin danger, Gene, Cisco gave this movie a thumbs up, which is the opposite of what happened in home Alone.
1:10:031 hour, 10 minutes, 3 secondsThree, while Roger Ebert disliked the movie and told Cisco that he should be ashamed of himself. I guess that's a popular internet video.
1:10:121 hour, 10 minutes, 12 secondsTheir, their disagreement about this. But I, I find that really strange because it was Ebert that said in the Home Alone
1:10:221 hour, 10 minutes, 22 secondsthree episode that he thought Home Loan three was superior to the first two. Oh no.
1:10:301 hour, 10 minutes, 30 secondsAnd it was Cisco that is like, are you okay? What's happening to you?
1:10:341 hour, 10 minutes, 34 secondsSo I find it really strange that in a matter of a couple years, they com like
1:10:431 hour, 10 minutes, 43 secondstheir, their opinions about basically the same movie, were completely swapped when you think is pretty funny, and especially because.
1:10:541 hour, 10 minutes, 54 secondsYeah, you're, you're right.
1:10:551 hour, 10 minutes, 55 secondsLike they, they, they're kind of the same movie, essentially, using the same types of jokes.
1:11:021 hour, 11 minutes, 2 secondsIt must be maybe the night that they watched him or whatever and, you know, 'cause there is an aspect of if you go to the movie theater to watch a film and the environment.
1:11:111 hour, 11 minutes, 11 secondsSo maybe that played into it. Who knows? It.
1:11:141 hour, 11 minutes, 14 secondsIt is funny though, 'cause you, I watched that clip as well of the two of them bickering over this film, and I kind of agree with one. He, he is like, and then you watch this and what is this?
1:11:231 hour, 11 minutes, 23 secondsTeaching children that they can crawl around in the, you know, like it's a bad influence on children.
1:11:291 hour, 11 minutes, 29 secondsIt was Yeah. Tr you won't get hit by a car.
1:11:311 hour, 11 minutes, 31 secondsYou, you won't fall off a building. Yeah. Yeah. Interesting.
1:11:351 hour, 11 minutes, 35 secondsI will say I found this again, I think I was in the right frame of mind to watch this 'cause I clearly have a, a more rosy outlook on it than you did despite this.
1:11:451 hour, 11 minutes, 45 secondsSo not being my jam, I was just feeling overly generous perhaps. But some of these things like, Gene, Cisco liking it.
1:11:531 hour, 11 minutes, 53 secondsRoger Ebert, in a 2009 essay that was published like, 'cause I think John Hughes passed in 2009, 2008, 2009. So it was closely after John Hughes's passing.
1:12:061 hour, 12 minutes, 6 secondsHe wrote an essay Ebert did. And he included a tidbit about a trip to India where he visited the largest movie theater in Calcutta.
1:12:161 hour, 12 minutes, 16 secondsAnd so he asked I don't know, maybe the theater owner if Star Wars episode four, A New Hope from 19 77 had been their most successful American film.
1:12:271 hour, 12 minutes, 27 secondsAnd the theater owner said, no, it was Baby's Day Out.
1:12:321 hour, 12 minutes, 32 secondsI used comedy about a baby wandering through Big City, which played there for more than a year.
1:12:401 hour, 12 minutes, 40 secondsNo way.
1:12:431 hour, 12 minutes, 43 secondsYes, what's wrong with you, India. this is Calcutta.
1:12:461 hour, 12 minutes, 46 secondsI will, I will get to this of. Sorry. Yeah. this is particularly in Calcutta 'cause and so much so they liked it so much
1:12:541 hour, 12 minutes, 54 secondsthat they made a, an Indian version, a remake of it in 95 called Sry.
1:13:031 hour, 13 minutes, 3 secondsI, I didn't, I didn't know that, but Baby's day out was a big thing in Calcutta apparently.
1:13:071 hour, 13 minutes, 7 secondsHowever, the most successful American film in all of India was Jurassic Park from 93 okay, so the, the cafe owner was wrong?
1:13:201 hour, 13 minutes, 20 secondsat the time.
1:13:211 hour, 13 minutes, 21 secondsI'm sure something else has surpassed that by now.
1:13:231 hour, 13 minutes, 23 secondsBut at the, yeah, at that time, But either way it would still must have been huge enough there for him to mention it, and if it played there for a full year.
1:13:321 hour, 13 minutes, 32 secondsWow. That's crazy. It is crazy. I mean, of all American movies, it's interesting.
1:13:381 hour, 13 minutes, 38 secondsI always kind of like seeing who either auditioned or was considered for some of the roles. Lorraine Twell played by LAR Flynn Boyle.
1:13:481 hour, 13 minutes, 48 secondsBasically all the popular actresses at the time were considered Jennifer Aniston and Courtney Cox. 'cause friends was becoming a thing at the time.
1:13:581 hour, 13 minutes, 58 secondsBonnie Hunt, Helen Hunt, and now I am wondering if they're related. Probably not.
1:14:031 hour, 14 minutes, 3 secondsHunt is just a Common common, common name. Brooke Shields Nicole Kidman and Debbie Maar, who I love.
1:14:121 hour, 14 minutes, 12 secondsOh, yeah. I like her a lot. So I think that would've been interesting.
1:14:151 hour, 14 minutes, 15 secondsI think she would've been good, like all the rest of 'em, I could see it, but I think Debbie Maser would've taken a Mm-hmm.
1:14:211 hour, 14 minutes, 21 secondsand mu a in ing take on the character, which would've made her, probably given her, probably would've given her more depth as a character. Mm-hmm.
1:14:291 hour, 14 minutes, 29 secondsYeah, she was kind of a throwaway like mother who doesn't know anything about her kid, but suddenly she, I mean, obviously it's her kid, so she wants him back, but she doesn't take care of him.
1:14:391 hour, 14 minutes, 39 secondsThe nanny does. Anyway for Eddie, the main bad guy, Tom Selleck was offered it and turned it down
1:14:451 hour, 14 minutes, 45 seconds'cause he felt it was too similar to three men and a baby from 1987, and I concur, I agree. He's like, look, I got this movie and this movie's great.
1:14:551 hour, 14 minutes, 55 secondsEverybody loves it. I don't need to be put my name on that.
1:14:571 hour, 14 minutes, 57 secondsNo, yep. Also, do we ever see Tom Selleck as a bad guy? No, that's the other one. Yeah. When would we have ever seen him as a bad guy?
1:15:061 hour, 15 minutes, 6 secondsThat would've been a different take and doing slapstick comedy like he did. The baseball one where it goes to Japan, which is comedic.
1:15:141 hour, 15 minutes, 14 secondsI mean, he is done comedic stuff, but not slap, sticky, comedic boy. Yeah. that'd be hard to see him doing that.
1:15:211 hour, 15 minutes, 21 secondsInteresting others some of these are very on the nose, like Joe Pesci Bob Hoskins and Daniel Stern, like, let's, let's just put the bad guys from home alone in this.
1:15:341 hour, 15 minutes, 34 secondsLike, that would've been ridiculous.
1:15:361 hour, 15 minutes, 36 secondsBut Tommy Lee Jones, I mean, he plays a bad guy, but that would've been interesting.
1:15:421 hour, 15 minutes, 42 secondsI don't, and I, I'm curious how far that conversation went of Hey, we're like, what about Tommy Lee Jones?
1:15:481 hour, 15 minutes, 48 secondsAnd that's as far as it went because, you know, I, I couldn't see them sending this to Tommy Lee Jones and Tommy Lee Jones saying, oh yeah, I'll consider that.
1:15:551 hour, 15 minutes, 55 secondsI, I couldn't But they sent it. to Tom Selleck. That's true. I guess enough for him to turn it down. Yeah. but yes, you're right.
1:16:011 hour, 16 minutes, 1 secondA lot of these, considered for the part are probably just like execs throwing out names.
1:16:061 hour, 16 minutes, 6 secondsBut Danny Glover, Steve Martin, I can see Steve Martin can definitely see Steve Martin. Yeah. Tim Allen and Kelsey Grammar.
1:16:151 hour, 16 minutes, 15 secondsYeah. am just not a fan of Kelsey Grammar. Hmm.
1:16:191 hour, 16 minutes, 19 secondsdo you, are you a I am a Mr. Seattle? Yeah. I gotta support, support my Frazier.
1:16:251 hour, 16 minutes, 25 secondsI am a fan of his, but he's, he's kind of a one trick pony, Kelsey Grammar, you know, I mean, nothing against him.
1:16:321 hour, 16 minutes, 32 secondsHe does it really well, but that's it. Mm-hmm. know, there, there's not a, he, there's not a lot of variety. Anything that you ever see him from.
1:16:411 hour, 16 minutes, 41 secondsHe the Beast, he played in X-Men to the Submarine movie he did.
1:16:451 hour, 16 minutes, 45 secondsHe, it is kind of just the same, Okay. Yeah, I concur.
1:16:491 hour, 16 minutes, 49 secondsVico Woody Harrelson and Dave Coulier and Rob Schneider were considered, which, Yeah.
1:16:571 hour, 16 minutes, 57 secondsI mean Woody Harrelson, Woody Harrelson's. Hilarious. I don't particularly like Dave Coulier either.
1:17:021 hour, 17 minutes, 2 secondsI don't think he's funny, but Woody, I can see Woody now, there's one very good actor known for his dramatic roles that I was like, Hmm.
1:17:111 hour, 17 minutes, 11 secondsBut I don't think he was anybody in 94.
1:17:131 hour, 17 minutes, 13 secondsAdrian Brody Oh wow. Yeah. Yeah. I He probably wasn't nobody back then. Yeah.
1:17:221 hour, 17 minutes, 22 secondsI can see him. Norby, who is played by Joey Pantoliano, others considered for his role.
1:17:301 hour, 17 minutes, 30 secondsJohn Ratzenberger.
1:17:341 hour, 17 minutes, 34 secondsWho Oh, they could have got Woody Harrelson and John Ratzenberger and uh, Kelsey Grammar. It would've been like a Cheers reunion.
1:17:411 hour, 17 minutes, 41 secondsOh my God, Yeah. Good call.
1:17:451 hour, 17 minutes, 45 secondsAlso Paul Rubins Oh, wow. Anything other than Peewee Herman. Yeah. That, that would've been tricky.
1:17:521 hour, 17 minutes, 52 secondsAnd Jim Varney. Jim Farney.
1:17:551 hour, 17 minutes, 55 secondsAKA earnest, I can see that he's, he plays that kind of a role pretty well. Yeah.
1:18:021 hour, 18 minutes, 2 secondsAnd to be honest Paul Rubin had some range.
1:18:051 hour, 18 minutes, 5 secondsIt's just he's so associated with Peewee Herman that it's hard to picture him doing anything other than Peewee Herman. But if you see him step out of it, he's actually really good.
1:18:131 hour, 18 minutes, 13 secondsSo, agree with you. Also, I feel like he's suffered, which would not be a scandal at all.
1:18:191 hour, 18 minutes, 19 secondsNow, given nothing is a scandal Not anymore. all day, every day scandal.
1:18:241 hour, 18 minutes, 24 secondsBut for whatever reason, and I don't recall when, but maybe around this time, his, like, the porn theater, whatever, I don't what even happened.
1:18:321 hour, 18 minutes, 32 secondsLike he got, caught jacking himself basically, he got caught going to an adult theater and doing what guys do when they go to adult theaters, That's, Yeah.
1:18:431 hour, 18 minutes, 43 secondsI mean, I, it was just like, oh, maybe the, maybe the scandal was.
1:18:491 hour, 18 minutes, 49 secondsApparently the ch people involved with children are asexual.
1:18:551 hour, 18 minutes, 55 secondsSo parents apparently are asexual also.
1:18:581 hour, 18 minutes, 58 secondsSo, Yeah.
1:18:591 hour, 18 minutes, 59 secondsHe got into a few little controversial things, but you're now, nobody would blink an eye on any of it. Mm-hmm. like, well, there's still adult theaters.
1:19:071 hour, 19 minutes, 7 secondsThat's what they'd say Yeah. Yeah. What do you do when leaving your house? Yeah, but come on, you have a phone. Right. Come on. Come.
1:19:151 hour, 19 minutes, 15 secondsAnd then I, I also for Gilbert team Jodi Foster was considered and yeah, sure. Why not? Yeah.
1:19:231 hour, 19 minutes, 23 secondsProbably, I doubt it would've gone any further than her being like, you want me to do what?
1:19:281 hour, 19 minutes, 28 secondsI'm Joni Yeah, exactly.
1:19:301 hour, 19 minutes, 30 secondsHow many Academy Awards had I won by this Exactly. Thanks. They were, yeah, so apparently they were punching above their weight.
1:19:381 hour, 19 minutes, 38 secondsClearly for this, I clearly liked this a little bit more than Milo, but I think both of our opinions are valid.
1:19:451 hour, 19 minutes, 45 secondsBut you know, it, it, it is what it is.
1:19:481 hour, 19 minutes, 48 secondsSo if you've made it this far, you might as well leave a five star rating and review. It is the easiest way to help retro made stick around you guys.
1:19:561 hour, 19 minutes, 56 secondsSo please, please. But that's our look back at Baby's Day Out and a slice of 94. Before we wrap, I wanna get your final thoughts.
1:20:051 hour, 20 minutes, 5 secondsIt, it sounds like it didn't surprise you at all.
1:20:071 hour, 20 minutes, 7 secondsAnd also after your final thoughts, please let us know what you've got coming up next and where they can keep up with you in your latest episodes.
1:20:161 hour, 20 minutes, 16 secondsMilo. So overall I'm going with the thumbs down side of Cisco.
1:20:221 hour, 20 minutes, 22 secondsBert, it didn't work for me, but like I said, the true also not the target audience for this.
1:20:291 hour, 20 minutes, 29 secondsAlthough I can't appreciate a good children's film, just not this one. Recycled jokes even with talented actors. Good moments.
1:20:371 hour, 20 minutes, 37 secondsI'm not gonna fault anyone for liking it. Like, I'm not gonna be like, how dare you like this film.
1:20:421 hour, 20 minutes, 42 secondsLike I said, I could see it has some good qualities and if you do enjoy it, props to you have fun watching it and go to town.
1:20:491 hour, 20 minutes, 49 secondsThat's what, uh, yeah. Eighties and nineties uncensored. Go to the eighties and nineties.com. That's the website.
1:20:571 hour, 20 minutes, 57 secondsFrom there you can find out where the podcast is. It's on all podcast players of your choice. Different format coming up. It should be a lot of fun.
1:21:051 hour, 21 minutes, 5 secondsThe first new episode of the new format, I think drops, well, I don't know when this comes out, but coming up might be out, might not be when you listen to this.
1:21:131 hour, 21 minutes, 13 secondsAnd keep an eye out for the one where Katie comes on and we discuss who will win in a cage match between Sylvester Stallone or Arnold Schwarzenegger.
1:21:221 hour, 21 minutes, 22 secondsTune in to find out. Ooh, on that note. Until next time, be kind, rewind.