Welcome back to the inspired
living with auto-immunity podcast.
I'm your host, Julie Michaelson.
And today we're joined by Dave Sherwin,
entrepreneur certified fitness nutrition
coach, and host of the Dairobi show.
Dave shares his seven simple
principles for extraordinary health,
and we couldn't be more on the same
page in our approach to wellness.
Join us to learn how to Uplevel your
health by mastering the mundane.
Dave welcome to the podcast.
I'm so excited to have you here today.
I am excited to be here.
I've been looking forward to this.
I have as well, I knew we were kind enough
to have me on your podcast and I'm looking
forward to continuing our conversation.
Me too.
It was a great discussion.
And there's, there's
always more to talk about.
The world of health is so incredibly
vast that it's great to do a round
two and go in different directions.
I couldn't be more on the same page.
I love to start out by inviting you
to share with listeners your journey.
Most of us don't end up in
this world because we dreamt
about it when we were little.
So what's your story?
How did you get here?
Yeah, I'll try to keep it brief.
I, it really started a very long time ago.
I, when I was a kid, I was the
shy, awkward kid who didn't make
friends who wanted, who cried on
the first day of school because I
wanted to go home with my mommy.
Okay.
I was that kid.
Right.
And I was socially backwards.
And.
Terrified when people paid
attention to me, that type of thing.
But in about seventh grade some kids
are trying to dunk a small ball,
maybe a soft ball sized ball on the
low hoop of the elementary school.
Maybe it's seven feet high.
I was taller than them.
And I was like, Can I try, you know,
and I went up and I was able to dunk
the small ball on the hoop and it was
my first memory and this feeling of
accomplishment of doing a cool thing with
my body, you know, it's sort of the first
memory I have of doing anything really
athletic that felt really fulfilling.
Okay.
And that led to me getting interested
in sports and basketball and.
It was sh it was really formative for me.
I eventually went to plan a team.
I had to be comfortable with other people.
I had to be able to plan
in front of a crowd.
I was introduced to weightlifting
and to nutrition and to practicing
hard and all the things that
come with high school sports.
And it really changed my life.
It gave me more confidence in.
A path for me to become
eventually an entrepreneur.
And I started my first business in 1993
and I've been self-employed ever since.
And, and, and that is a hard
road and it's been up and down.
There's there's times of plenty
and there's times of famine and
I've been through all of it.
And I could tell you all kinds
of heroic and terrible stories.
Sure that combo goes.
That's what being an entrepreneur is.
Yeah.
And, and I finally eventually
sold a business and.
And that was really fun.
I I've made more money on
it than I thought I would.
And I was introduced to the concept
of buying and selling businesses.
And so my entrepreneurial itch
went from building businesses to
buying and selling, but I had a
colossal failure in about 2000.
It was we were, we had a business
that was run off of five servers.
It was an e-commerce business and it
was hacked and we could not fix it.
And every time we fired up those servers,
again, the spammer who had hacked us
started sending out massive amounts of,
of spam emails off of those servers.
And the data farm kept shutting us down.
Horrific story, lost a business,
completely went from making a living to.
Bankruptcy, like nothing, no income
suddenly out of the blue in June of 2009.
And that was just devastating
and it was a fun business.
I loved it and there's no
way I could recreate it.
Because I needed the
data off those servers.
We had thousands of customers in that
business and it was all gone well.
I was literally calling
friends and family.
I was like, I'm out of business.
I'm looking for something.
And my friend, Dan, so Dave,
you're an entrepreneur.
You're never going to be a good employee.
But what I don't understand is why
have you never done a health business?
You are always talking about fitness
and racist, you do, and supplements and
diets, and you read books about your
true interest is health and wellness,
and I've never understood why you didn't
do a health and wellness business.
And the light bulbs went off.
I thought this is, and I said,
well, Dan, what would I do?
And he said, well, everyone
wants to lose weight.
Why don't you find a great weight, loss,
diet, and supplement that helps the
diet and do a simple, here's a plan.
Here's a supplement put up a website.
I went to work.
I put up this website, found a
product, did some research, found
a niche, a niche where certain
people were very interested in rapid
weight loss with a low calorie diet.
I don't advise that anymore, but
at the time it was all the rage.
And so I just went with
what people were wanting.
Really.
I just went where the, you know,
where, where the fish were feeding.
Okay.
And six months later we were doing
a hundred thousand dollars a month
of sales in a weight loss program.
Something I'd never thought.
Or entertained before.
And so I combined my interest
in health and fitness with my
entrepreneurial skills and everything
I'd learned about e-commerce and boom.
All of a sudden I was in the health
and wellness business and it has,
it has morphed and grown from there.
I've learned a lot.
I've learned a lot about weight loss.
I've learned about the various
challenges that people go through.
And, and That's how I got, I got
here really was through business.
And at first it was, wow, this is a
great business, but then it very quickly
became about people very, very quickly.
I realized, oh, there are some
real world challenges here.
There are people who really struggle and
people wonder, well, can I do this diet?
Because I've had my gallbladder removed.
I have a hyper active thyroid.
I have this, I have that.
And suddenly I was, I was like,
oh my gosh, I'm in over my head.
And so over time I got certification and
I had to really figure out what to say.
I had to hire very professional customer
support reps with, with experience, had
to learn the ins and outs of the FTC
and the FDA and all the things you can.
And can't say, so I went through this
massive reorientation from being an
entrepreneur, really, to being a health
guy and blended the two together.
Which is beautiful.
And I love that.
I mean, that's what
they always say, right.
Do do.
That's what I taught my kids,
follow what you love and the
business will come from that.
And so I love that you, you
just reverse engineered it.
You got the entrepreneurial thing down.
And then you were like, oh wait,
I can, I can actually spend my
days, you know, using the things
I'm researching for my own health
and wellness, which is fantastic.
One of the things I wanted to talk about
today I'm going to quote you directly.
You said you know, when you're
experienced people complicate and
stress Ify, And I'm always talking
about how, you know, stress management.
I used to always say diet is, you
know, we always start with diet.
I say, you know, there's all these
pillars, but we start with diet.
And then I learned as a coach that
I was adding stress by doing that
by jumping right in with people,
you know, change this, change that,
and not managing stress first.
And so just.
Discussing this with you makes
me think of my favorite thing.
And I apologize to all of the
other professors who taught me
wonderful things in college.
But my favorite thing I learned
was in an industrial psychology
class and it was the kiss method.
Keep it simple, stupid and not,
you know, you can add a nicer S.
That was the eighties and we were
politically incorrect back then.
Nobody was offended by it.
It was fine.
But that's what I really
want to talk about today.
I know you have these seven simple.
Principles.
So it's all about keeping it
simple, to really help people
elevate their health and wellness.
And we chatted a little bit off air
because I said, oh my gosh, Dave, how
are we going to cover all of this?
And we decided we're probably not.
So if you would start us off with
what are those seven things, and then
we'll dig into as many as we can.
Yeah.
And before I forget, Julie, when
you give out the, the, our, our link
to the website and stuff, I have a
free PDF called the dire OB Undiet.
It's on the resources
pages, page of our website.
And so people can download that so that
you can get the whole story easily.
There.
It's a simple 10 page read,
and it's very graphical.
Your kids could read it in about five
minutes, so it shouldn't be too hard.
It's an easy read,
I love to see simple.
I love it.
simple, all about
all, we all like pictures.
You know what, Julie, we're flawed.
As human beings, we are flawed.
We're all very flood, but we tend
to not see our own blind spots.
And so when people say to us,
we need to manage our stress.
We ought to have a meditation program.
We ought to do this.
We ought to do that.
Well, I've heard all those things
and I never started a lot of
those things until I was ready.
As a matter of fact, I don't
do anything till I'm ready.
I don't know about
none of us
or your listeners.
There has to be a point in our life
where we've reached the mature either
the maturity level, or maybe we're just
sick and tired of being sick and tired.
Who knows?
Maybe we just, we just can't
do everything at one time.
Right?
So there comes a time.
We're ready, but.
But this issue of distress suffering,
the fact is many, many people enter
their diet or their new eating program
or whatever it is with the same old
mindset that has failed them previously.
And they think the new plan
is the pro is the solution.
And the, and the new plan is probably
no better than the last 10 plans.
If the plan, isn't the problem.
It's the person taking the same
problems from plan to plan to plan.
That's a problem.
We never want to look at
things that way, right?
It's hard for us to take total
responsibility in our lives, but
at the same time, Julie, a lot
of those plans are ridiculous.
They're not sustainable and
no one wants to be without a
treat ever again in their life.
Right.
Very few.
Anyway, many of these diets
are just not sustainable.
So what I want to do is read
you these seven principles.
These are from my 13 years in the
health and wellness industry, we've
had well over a million customers.
Julie, we, I could show, I could write a
book just on the support tickets that we
have done and the various challenges, the
real challenges people face in improving
their health and from my own personal
certification, from all that experience,
I'm going to read you these seven things.
Number one, people don't
drink enough water.
And they drink too much of other stuff.
Now this is simple, but before I read
the rest of the list, one more principle.
I want to say for the vast majority
of us, we have to take our mind and
our eye off of the silver bullet
syndrome that we tend to have.
And we have to learn
to master the mundane.
If you're to watch a healthy person's
habits for a week, if you could just
kind of shadow them for a week, what you
that exciting.
looks boring.
Yeah.
Good health looks boring.
Success in business looks boring.
There's ups and downs, successes and
failures, but there's just a daily
general routine that successful
people do that leads to success.
There's a simple daily routine
that healthy people do.
And it's not that interesting
and often not that different
from what unhealthy people.
But one of them is they drink more
water and less of other stuff.
You got to drink at least half your
body weight in ounces of water per day.
Number two is you got to eat all
your food slowly and mindfully.
Again, it's not very hard.
It doesn't cost any money,
but it's incredibly important.
We can come back to why that is.
If you like number three
is intermittent fasting.
Intermittent fasting is not a.
It's not new.
It was the way our ancestors evolved
and lived for hundreds of thousands of
years with a circadian rhythm based on
the rising of the sun and the setting
of the sun and eating during that time.
And it took a little time.
They couldn't just walk to
the fridge and get food.
Right.
So our body has the genetic.
To thrive on eating a little later in the
morning and stopping eating after sunset.
And we're set up for that.
And the science is there to
back up that modern humans also
thrive when they eat that way.
Number four is we all need to eat healthy.
Proteins fats and carbs.
Those are the three building
blocks of health and some
diets kind of ignore those.
You can't ignore those.
You need carbs for hormones and for
energy and the other things that
they do, you need, you need protein.
It's the building block of your body.
You need fat for your soft tissue
and a lot of other reasons.
And if you can get all three
with each meal, you will be much
healthier than the average person.
Number five is observe a
simple supplement stress.
The bio-hacking of the last 10 to 15
years has been so educational for all of
us, millions of people who have had blood
work done millions of, and guess what?
The biohacking industry
attracts healthy people.
So already above average, really healthy
people have had tons of blood work done
and found out that there are certain
things are deficient in no matter what.
A quick example, 76% of Americans
are deficient in vitamin D.
They're eating plenty of vitamin
D, but it's not absorbing.
They're not getting it
from the right sources.
Okay.
And so they're just not in the food, but
for whatever reason, and this is something
you can easily test for yourself.
There's a certain and should on a
regular eye test every six months,
Julie, I don't know about you, but.
Oh, at least.
Wonderful.
And for those of you listening,
there's a great lesson right there.
But what you're going to find is
that there are certain things you
should supplement on and I'm happy to
talk about those number six, we need
to, we need to move our body daily.
I love the term PMP
personal movement plan.
And for those of you listening,
just ask yourself, do you
have a personal movement plan?
And maybe there's a couple
test questions I can do.
What was your exercise this week?
What was it yesterday?
What's it going to be tomorrow?
And what realm of health we'll
focus on strength or cardio or
mobility will be a hit workout
or a long slow, steady workout.
It doesn't matter, as long as it's part
of your plan that works for you, but most
people don't have that plan and worse.
They don't move their body daily.
And so they're too sedentary and they are
causing mobility problems in the future.
Their future lives are, are leading
to hunch back you know, shortened
hit, hit, hit Tendons and just lack of
mobility and, you know, I don't know
about you, but I, I want to, whatever
my life ends, I want it to be it.
I want to be as healthy as possible.
I want to live young until I'm done.
That's.
I love that.
Okay.
That's you nailed it.
I love that statement.
I'm going to steal that.
I'm writing it.
I was like, wow, where'd that come from?
Oh, you just made that up.
I was brilliant.
A flash of genius.
I will credit you when I say.
And the last one Julia has get
seven to nine hours of sleep every
night and try to make that at a
consistent time, as much as possible.
Our modern lifestyle is making it
difficult to do all seven of these things.
At the same time, our modern
lifestyle gives us all the tools.
We need to do them at a very high level.
It's kind of a catch 22.
They're easy to do, and they're easy not
to do, but Julie, I absolutely believe.
But if your listeners would do these seven
things and forget Quito and forget all of
the diets they've ever heard of before and
forget everything difficult and actually
just settled, settle back and go, okay.
Today I'm going to drink enough water.
I'm going to eat healthy
carbs fats and protein.
I think I'll I'll stop watching Netflix
a little earlier and I'll go to bed at 10
or 10 30 and so on and just live that way.
I'm telling you, you'd be amazed how
healthy you're going to be in six months.
I hear here I can we just play
that on a loop it's and they, I
may do all support each other.
You know, when you're talking about eating
on the circadian rhythm and sleeping
and moving and all of these things if we
simplify it and, and I love, oh my gosh,
there's I want to talk about all seven.
Love, I want to underscore what you
said about the food and I, and I, I am
always, I say there's no one, right diet.
But the, but the, or eating plan.
But the one thing is real food.
Right?
And you mentioned.
Quality proteins and
fats and carbs and carbs.
I'm going to underscore
carbs are not evil.
We all know we need carbs.
We all need carbs, but
we need healthy carbs.
And I, I joke, I tell people,
people say, you know, well, you
know what about plant-based?
And I said, well, I eat plant-based.
It just also has animal protein,
but my plate is always covered.
And vegetables.
It just also has really good high
quality, healthy protein with it.
Julie, many people mistake the
word plant-based for vegan or
vegetarian plant-based is not.
I mean, if you're going to be
Not as I define
then be vegan, vegan or vegetarian,
plant-based literally means what it says.
It means that the basis of your diet
comes from fruits and vegetables.
Now I forgot a major point,
but you'll those of you who
read the book would catch this.
When we talk about eating healthy
carbs fats and protein, we want
five to nine servings of fruits
and veggies mixed into that.
Now veggies and fruit Nate should make up
most of your carbs that those are carbs.
Carbs.
Don't come from a bag.
I mean, they, they, they do, but,
but the carbs that I'm talking about
don't don't have nutritional facts.
They don't have boxes and
they do require refrigeration.
I love that.
Well, and that's, you know,
people will say to me, well,
can I do this eating plan?
You know, then what's the
difference between this or keto or.
Then you're tweaking.
Right.
Then it's just, where is your level
of fat versus your level of carbs
and not everybody has to do PIDO
and not everybody should do KIDO.
But, but if you're starting with those
three key ingredients on your plate, I
love that you said every meal, people
are shocked when I say, yeah, you
should have vegetables with breakfast.
They're like, oh, wow.
Yeah.
And, and you know what, though, once
you get it, do you know how I got
vegetables with breakfast this morning?
I slathered my eggs with guacamole.
Yeah,
It's delicious
it is.
It
it's just adding a fat, some fat and
carbs, healthy carbs, and a vegetable into
an otherwise usually vegetable list meal.
Yeah.
And I, I love.
same way.
Yep.
I love always having like a big
pan of roast veggies in the fridge
where you can just, I can add
them to any meal without thought.
I want it back all the way up.
I just had a conversation with the doctor
I worked with last week about water.
So I do want to go all the way back to.
I'll have a drink of water while we.
I will toast you with mine.
It is something that our conversation
was, was a reminder for us.
When somebody has, oh my gosh.
I mean, there's just a
list of symptoms or things.
I don't remember if it came up with
dry skin or what it, what it was in
this particular case, but a reminder
for the coaches, the practitioners
to back up and see, remember to
ask, are you drinking enough water?
Right.
Because
It's question
basic that I forget to ask.
I know.
the number one question that
almost no doctor asks him.
Well, no, almost no doctor has
ever asked me how much water do
you drink and what do you eat?
Yeah,
It's absolutely bizarre.
It makes absolutely no sense.
A person comes in.
I feel like crap.
Oh, well, give me a, you know, keep,
keep track of what you eat for the next
three days and come back and see me.
That's all they have to do to start with.
And you find me a doctor that does that.
It's absolutely psychotic.
I'll give you, I can give you an example.
Let's put this in real life.
So this guy comes into a doctor who
says I've been to multiple doctors.
I have high blood pressure,
nothing touches it.
I'm on five minutes.
wow.
This doctor had common sense.
She said, keep track of what you
eat and drink for the next few
days and come back and see me.
He comes back.
He's a construction worker.
He was drinking 15 Gatorades
a day on the construction site
Wow.
is sodium level was jacked.
She took him off the Gatorade and
then later took him off all the drugs.
Yeah.
But five doctors before her didn't
ask what the freaking guy was putting
in his body and just gave him a drug.
Yeah,
Absolutely bizarre.
I believe in they're good practitioners
in every area of medicine, but the, the
functional medicine approach is effective.
Yeah.
Welcome dogs.
I warned you.
I love it.
It's so effective because most
Western trained dogs don't
ever ask what you're eating.
I've worked with diabetics
that were never told.
How about don't have
oatmeal for breakfast?
If you're a type one diabetic,
Yeah.
had ever explained, you know,
the carbs drive, blood sugar.
Yeah.
Yeah, but I don't want
to get too off the track.
And like you said, I don't, I
also don't offend anybody, but
again, this is about you listener.
Those of you listening, this is you make
sure you understand these principles.
We're not going to change
the entire medical community.
Although I think it is going in a
positive direction at the moment, but
it really, we, the only person we can
control in this life is ourselves.
And so this is all about doing
what's best and figuring out the
best lifestyle for us in our family.
And it is the, it's the simple
things that are so empowering.
Yeah.
the quote unquote, just drinking water.
I know I actually have one in my family.
There are actually people who don't like.
Like, they just don't like how it tastes.
And so then we need to do, you know,
simple things to, to, to get it.
I can't imagine I love water.
I, it's not something I ever have
to think about personally, you
know, am I getting enough water?
But it is, we are made of.
And I have a few, you know,
this is one of our products.
Mimi's miracle minerals.
And I don't know is your podcast
video, or you just produce the audio.
W we'll have video as well.
But audio are
Okay.
So for those of you that can't
see what I just showed us.
Basically, it's a trace mineral product.
Now, if you add trace it for those
of you who drink water and it
hurts, and Julie you'd be amazed.
How many people fall into this category?
They actually drink water and it feels
like a rock sitting in their stomach.
That's how they'll often describe it.
Now.
Chances are their water is too hard.
And if this is a little known trick, but
if you add trace minerals to your water,
It breaks down the surface tension of the
water and it doesn't give that effect.
Plus it's more hydrating.
The water gets carried to the
cells and absorbed better.
So that's a great trick.
Adding flavorings to your water,
herbal teas, lemon, raw raspberries,
Cucumber.
all that stuff takes just a little
bit of effort, but once you're in the
habit of it, and you got these things
on your grocery list in your aunts,
your water, all of a sudden water.
Crisp and satiating and satisfying.
And and it's, well-worth overcoming
these other chemicals that you're
drinking and becoming a fan of water.
I love that.
I, I just, again, it's the it's
as simple as it gets really.
Let's talk a little bit about,
this is the second time today.
This has come up for me.
And I am such a believer.
Let's talk a little bit about this.
Why does it matter if we eat slow?
If we're mindful, some people
say, if we're grateful, what,
what ha what does it matter?
How we eat?
If we're eating good.
It matters in, in a variety of ways.
So if we're with other people, it
matters socially that we're actually
enjoying the company and we're,
we've got our phone upside down and
we're paying attention to the people
that we're with physiologically.
It matters even more because our stomach
is not a hole at the bottom of our throat.
It's just full of stomach acid
that just absorbs the food.
Our stomach has, has a series of folds.
Now, first of all, slow reading
starts with slow, not necessarily
slow chewing, but lots of chewing.
We should choose to the
consistency of applesauce.
That's working in the enzymes,
especially those enzymes, that
break down starch and carbs.
Then when we swallow that food,
it goes, starts going through
the folds of the stomach.
Now the hormones in our
stomach that determined that
we're full or are not perfect.
They're about 20 minutes behind.
So what happens is when we eat very
quickly, the food is hitting the
beginning, folds of those stomachs
of our stomach, not choosing.
So the enzymes that need
to be there, aren't there.
And then the stomach is working slowly
to work it through all those folds
and work all the new enzymes and
then the stomach acid into the food.
And the problem is we put too
much food on the, at the top.
At the beginning of that process, when
we eat quickly, then later we're notified
that we're full, the hormone triggers
the brain, but we're, it's too late now.
We're uncomfortable studies show that
people who eat solely and mindfully eat
20% less food and other studies show that
the average person who gains weight and
is obese by the time they're 40, does
it by eating about 20%, too much food.
This literally could solve the problem
because many people, Julie they're at
their ideal body weight when they're
20 and they're obese when they're.
And they do it at about a rate
of 22 pounds a year, which is
over 20 years, about 40 pounds.
And now you're obese 40 pounds
heavier than you should be.
And so it wasn't a lot back to
this master, the mundane and
the boring aspect of health.
You're just trying to keep off
to get your ideal body weight.
And then don't add two
pounds a year, right.
And eating slowly and
mindfully could be step one to
reversing the process for most.
I love, you know, you mentioned before the
idea of intermittent fasting, isn't new
as you started talking about chewing and
getting to the consistency of applesauce,
my grandfather, and he was a character.
Used to always say, you know, two
until you barely have to swallow.
Like that was any that man could chew.
I mean, his enzymes were working.
yeah.
but if we think about to so
many of the people I work with.
You know, have digestive issues, whether
they're aware or not, and, and S you know,
supplement with enzymes, and here's a way
for free to get that going and start that
digestion working properly to begin with.
Can I tell you something really quick?
Well, Julie.
Please,
My last biohack test personally
was my first GI tract test.
I've never done one before.
I usually do blood work.
I did my first GI test.
So I nurse calls me up to do a
zoom call to go over the results.
And she's acting kind
of funny like, oh, wow.
This is really an interesting test.
Tell me a little about yourself.
And so I told her I'd
get them to get blood.
My bit of my background.
I said, why are you asking?
She says, I've done 2000 of these,
and this is the best one I've seen.
Yeah.
And I was like, yes, yes.
And she wanted to know what I was doing.
Well, I just gave you all the answer.
You see.
We talk about the GI tract test
for those of you listening,
basically saying how well you're
doing in your, your microbiome,
biome and your gut health, right?
Gut health is a big deal.
We all know it.
Well, guess what?
I think that eating vegetables
every day, stopping eating at
dinner time and giving my stuff.
A lot of time to process everything
is all I really need to do.
And so I don't do much.
I don't do anything special.
I don't do anything really exciting.
I don't follow a named.
I just follow these principles.
And I got to tell you, Juliet
was the, it was so validating
to have a scientific study.
Tell me that these things flat out work
and I'm having her on my podcast actually.
To go over this and then to encourage
other people to do it the same thing.
So anyways, just total validation.
I hope it doesn't sound like I'm bragging.
I'm I'm excited about it.
I don't mean to come across as arrogant
or something or better than anybody else.
To me, it was just a tribute to
It works.
The simple system might sound simple,
but it's incredibly effective.
Super effective.
And as somebody who looks at labs a lot
and orders, labs a lot for my clients
when you get that rare standout, I
recently had that with a toxin panel,
and again, I specialize in auto-immunity
and so I know really ugly looking toxin
panels are typically what come with.
My laptop.
And I had one client.
I was like, holy cow,
you are a clean beam.
Like I have.
And her answer was, well, I should be,
I've been working on it for 20 years,
you know, so, and again, she hadn't done
anything drastic or dramatic either, but
I love the, that whole back to basics.
You said earlier, you know, yes, we have
all these excuses with how we live to.
Be pulled away from these
basics, but then we also have all
these tools that make it easy.
Once we start creating those routines.
That's right.
And so my, my invitation to people
is to just let go of everything.
You've struggled with
everything that's difficult.
And to learn to master the mundane,
get back to the simplicity of
health you're made up of water.
So drink lots of water.
You need all the elements
from carbs fats and proteins.
So to get them what you can't get
from those take through supplements,
and you're going to need to
supplement some of those things as
you're just not going to get them.
No matter how hard you try and.
Tons of bio-hacks to, to prove
that getting enough sleep, that's
where it all comes together.
If you've exercised and ate well
and stopped eating after dinner, and
then you get seven to nine hours of
sleep for your body to get rid of all
those toxins and your gut microbiome
to heal and your brain to detox and
all these wonderful things happen.
And so it may sound.
Too simple, but I promise
you do it for six months.
And it was like I said earlier, I, I
bet anyone who does this for six months
will never go back and they'll never be
fooled by another silver bullet diet.
It is so true.
And, and you know, there's a
saying in my world, if it seems
too good to be true, it is because
people are looking for that fix.
Right.
That one thing, it's not one thing.
It does take some work.
I want to also touch on you, dimensioned,
how with each of these things, it's
creating the routines to be successful
at every, whether it's business health.
It's all about to quote you the Monday.
But really making it routine.
And I would say that it's not going
to take six months for somebody to
never go back because as soon as people
realize how well they can feel, that
becomes all the reinforcement they need.
I see it over and over.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I, I think of it like a health,
like a flywheel picture, a very huge
flywheel, you know, maybe one made of
stone, this massive wheel on an axle.
And your job is to pull this
thing in to get it to spin.
When you, when you start
pulling, it'll barely.
And you might get really discouraged,
but if you keep pushing and pushing
and pushing, finally, this big, huge
thing will start slowly moving on
the axle and you keep pushing the
same amount of pressure over and
over and over the wheel goes faster
and faster and faster and faster.
And finally, if you got a big stone
flywheel going fast enough, if
you grab it, it'll suck you under.
Yup.
But the problem is that too many
people barely get their flywheel
going, oh, this thing's barely moving.
I'm letting go and moving
on to the next flywheel.
And they go from flywheel to
flywheel to fly well, to fly well
and never get anything to spin.
I love that visual.
I'm a very visual learner that
that was really, really well put.
And, and also directly goes to, I
always say, you know, nobody had got
unhealthy in a day or a week or a month.
And for me, I've been well for several
years and I feel better every six
months than I did six months ago.
It's I think sitting here right now,
like, no, I couldn't possibly feel better.
And yet when I look over my shoulder,
I'm like, wow, I either have a little
more energy or I'm stronger, you know?
And, and, or, or and so, you know,
like you I'm in my fifties and
it's exciting to feel younger.
As I go through life and continue to
learn and biohack and test and improve.
Agreed me, me and you are
on the same way, flank.
I mean, I, yeah, everything
you just said, that's me.
I'm enjoying it.
I'm enjoying being a grandfather.
I'm healthy with my grandkids.
I can go play and do anything
that they want to go do.
And that's what it's really all about.
It's we just want, you know, we
want the health to have a really
great and meaningful life with
our loved ones with our grandkids.
I want to have great grants.
I love it.
That would be amazing.
It will.
You will.
I'd love to take a great grandson
or great-granddaughter golfing.
I think
a fan and walk the course.
That's fantastic.
I love it.
This is going to be really hard for you.
I have a feeling, Dave, but I
got to do it because this is the
last question I ask every time,
Okay.
what is one step?
And that's the hard part that listeners
can take today to start to improve their.
Okay.
Start a meditation program
I love it.
because that's foundational to the health.
You see, what's, what's
stopping a lot of people.
It actually isn't that
they don't know what to do.
It's that they're living
a little out of control.
People just don't feel like they have
control over their lives and the media
and the environment and the people around
us and politics and all this stuff is
just negative energy dragging us down
all the time in the back of our mind you
know, working on us in a negative way.
And these things do play out.
They lead to binge eating.
They lead to a lack of control.
They lead to sitting in the
restaurant choosing between that.
Cobb salad or the burger and
fries and making the wrong choice.
Right.
And for me, I started a daily habit
of meditation six years ago and
it underlines and undergirds every
other good thing going on in my life.
So I feel like without that that
I wouldn't be able to do other
things as well as, as I'm I'm doing.
And I do think too many people
live with too much stress.
Cortisol is running too high.
Their adrenals are out of control.
Mentally their mind is racing.
We have in Buddhism, they
call it the monkey mind.
Yup.
And so I think until you get
control of that, it's going to
be hard to control anything else.
And again, I should, I don't, I
shouldn't use the word control.
I don't have perfect control by any means.
I have all the same
problems I just described.
I'm not saying I'm above
or better than anybody.
All I'm saying is that through a
daily habit of meditation, it has
helped me level up, like in a video
game, you hit a new level, right?
I'd say
every aspect of life I say, you
know, then you're a better partner,
a better business person, a better
friend, a better grandfather.
You name it.
You are just a better human being when
you are executing a meditation practice.
Yeah.
Everything else becomes easier.
And so that's actually doesn't sound
like a health tip, but I feel like it is.
Oh, I, you, I swear.
I didn't plant this, my listeners now,
how I feel about how important it is.
But I love that you went
there, you surprised even me.
So they go, everybody start that
meditation routine and it can start small.
Just build the habit.
I'm so glad you said.
It doesn't have to be complex, start with
a simple breathing practice, but just
start with something I would say, work
on it, make it, make it important, start
simple, but make it a bit of a practice.
Read a book, you know, listen to
some podcasts, listen to something
about Zen or whatever your background
is that that, that works for you
religiously, spiritually, whatever.
And it doesn't even have to
be religious or spiritual.
It can just be breathing.
It can be mindfulness,
simple, mindfulness, whatever.
Yeah, start simple, but be serious and
be a student and see where it takes you.
I love that start simple, but be serious.
And, and we are all students and
you and I embrace that every day.
So that's.
Golden advice right there.
Everybody we're going to have all
the links in the show notes, but
for those that listen, like I do,
maybe they're driving or hiking or
somewhere and listening, what is the
best place for somebody to go find.
Dai roby.com D I R O B i.com.
And we have a lot of great free
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I encourage you to look through those.
We also have a phenomenal line
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These are generally actually meant
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These are some of the
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I mentioned toxins.
I know you have a great
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We do we do.
And so we have formulations based
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So check those out and and
Julie, you have your own link.
So you can put that in the show
notes and that'll get people 10% off.
Which is quite the gift
and you are quite the gift.
We could do 10 episodes.
I just always love talking with you.
And I love that.
Everything you say is so relatable.
I tell people all the time, you
know, I specialize in auto-immunity,
but it's, it's, it's inflammation,
it's inflam-aging and everything
translates on the spectrum to everyone.
And so I love having you on and
just really showing that we all just
need to be doing the same thing, no
matter what particular challenges
we may or may not be facing.
So I really appreciate it.
thank you so much.
It's been fun to be here.
And we shot for 30 minutes and
we, we, we did go over, but
know we blew it.
but we could have got
an hour and a half, so
That's right.
So we may, we may bring you a part two on
another day, everybody, but we're going
to give you the rest of your day back.
So.
Julie.
It's been great.
Thank you for everyone listening.
Remember you can get the
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I hope you had a great time and
enjoyed this episode as much as I did.
I'll see you next week.