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Welcome to 'IDOIQ' your backstage pass to the world of weddings and events. Join us as we unravel the secrets of seamless celebrations, from the 'I do' to the unforgettable reception. Whether you're a couple dreaming of your special day, a wedding vendor seeking industry insights, or anyone captivated by the magic of love and festivities, we've got you covered. 'IDOIQ' explores everything from choosing enchanting venues to creating stunning designs and culinary delights. We bring you expert advice, inspiring stories, and interviews with top-notch vendors who make dreams come true. Let's dive into the art of celebration together. This is 'IDOIQ'—where every episode is a step closer to your perfect 'I do.'
Welcome back to the I New IQ podcast Brock, here with my guy, the guy that's been with me for a little bit. John. Hey, John. Oh, hey guys. DJ John with Brock Entertainment as well. You wanna introduce our guests? Your, your fellow, what is it? Dragon Writers. They're not known by that. Wow. They're kind of dragony.
We, you know, we just did, we just did an event together. Right. I was DJing the event and they were the photography and videography of that event, and they came in, they killed it on some dragons just riding through there. I don't remember riding anybody. They were laing like crazy with the cameras, with everything.
You know, it's always great to do the events with vendors that you know, just because even no matter what the theme of the night is, you still have a little bit of like camaraderie and stuff like that. Mm-hmm. Yeah. So I wanted to introduce, you know, Mark Hutchinson right here and Mark. Go ahead and introduce your lady friend here and then my wife Shelby.
Hey, yo. We run Capture by Shelby, the photography, the wedding photography company here in northwest Arkansas. And yeah, we just have a super fun time. We, like Jonathan was saying, we did that event a while back together, and then we also did a previous event. When was that? The first one? Yeah, that was last July.
That was last July. So that's where we initially met Jonathan and kind of got. You know, I guess introduced to Brock Entertainment. Yeah. Coming through there. And then Shelby had had known Brock from a previous event as well. So these guys have kind of just been, you know. Kind of in our radar, just, you know, say Hey too.
And I was happy to see Jonathan at that last event we went to Happy LARPing it up together, so you know. Oh yeah, for sure. For sure. Well, thanks for being on the show today. We're gonna kick things off with kind of a good news story, and it goes along with the theme. A couple that met while playing the game, Minecraft recently got married in the game.
What in the game? Yeah. They met at 13 and they need photography. They were 13 years old when they met. Wow. And now they're in their mid twenties. They're from Oregon and he's from England. Their digital wedding happened in March, but Wired just did a story on it, so Wow. Their avatar stood in front of a digital altar with a canopy of pixelated cherry blossoms above.
What in the world? They, they said, uh, getting married and the game made sense for them because quote, we've lived a part of our whole relationship there. That's, that world is where we live together. He also proposed in the game and the whole wedding costs. How much money? How much do you think? Oh man. Oh, I mean, it's Minecraft, so, okay, but did they have, did they make all the set up themselves?
I don't know. I don't know. It, it costs something, but how much, oh man. I would say let's go with less than $500. Okay. That's a good, I mean, honestly, I mean it's Minecraft, so unless they, they probably hired some kid to maybe make some props if they needed it. So I'm gonna say like. 200 bucks. $300? Yeah. 300.
Good job. Wow. Okay. And, and which, which Minecraft world are they taking to Honey Bear? I have no idea. Jack Black wasn't there though. He wasn't there. He didn't officiate, but that's interesting. Yeah. Yeah. Very. But that is wild. So are they legally married? Uh, I think, I don't have any idea. I'm sure they are.
That's a question. I wanna know if they got legally married. He's still in England. She's still here in Oregon. I wonder That's So they met when they were 13, so they've known each other over 10 years now, I guess. Um, wow, that's crazy. And have they ever met each other in person? They have to have, right. I would say make sure you do that prenuptial agreement.
Yeah. I don't wanna share half of my, yeah. Resources. Yeah, that's true. If this, do you, do you, I any of you play games that, those type of games or anything? I mean, I grew up playing Minecraft, so I mean, yeah, I am. Yeah. I've played Minecraft a couple times. Yeah. But John, my daughter plays Minecraft. Yeah. Yeah.
I'm not, I'm more of a No. Well, you know, 'cause I'm an 85 kid. Yeah. So it's like, you know, any s You couldn't meet people on Mario. Yeah, there was not meeting. True. Yeah. It wasn't like the online world. No, definitely not. No. My, my best friend David, his wife is a vid or a photographer up in Michigan, and their son is homeschooled and they I'm homeschooled.
I could, I I knew that. Um, no, thanks man. I appreciate that. I'm kidding. That's great. No, but he's homeschooled and he plays a lot of games and they'll do meetups. With the people he meets online. Really? Yeah. And if, especially if they travel, if he's like, Hey, my buddy who goes by the handle, mark lives here.
They'll meet up and do a A meetup. Oh, heck yeah. With the parents there, they're not just dropping the kid off, obviously. Yeah. But of course, yeah. So he is made a lot of good friends online. That's cool. You're like, Hey. You said you were 14. You look more like you're 56. Well, they said I, I had to be there. I identify as 14.
Well, what That's a what? That's a big thing in, what's that game? Roblox. Roblox. That's, yeah. I never played that. No, that's a bit. My kids played Roblox. Wait, it's sketchy. Oh yeah. Oh yeah. It's bad. Oh no. But then my kids played Roblox and would get me to play. And I'm like, this is the dumbest game. And, and all the games on there.
Well, so, and uh, Fortnite is getting that way too, because you can play Fortnite, which is designed by the studio Uhhuh and Fall guys by the studio, but people can create their own kind of games similar to Roblox. Yeah. And so people are creating these lobbies. Where they're, you know, doing that type of stuff.
Ah, that's weird. That Roadblocks was accused of, and so like Charlotte has Fortnite, I told her, I said, you're not allowed to play any of these user created games. No. Oh, I didn't know they did that. Yeah. It's say user created games. Do they, do they create like a game extension inside of. Is that what it is?
Right. So similar to like Roblox, it'll have pretty crummy graphics. I see. And it's just like, you know, you create your little character Yeah. And blah, blah. But then you can like type things to each other or, or have Oh, I see. Know, voice chat, that type of stuff. For sure. And I'm like, no, you're playing, you know?
The regular game. Yeah. Or Fall guys or Rocket League. The game that the studios created. Right, exactly. None of this user stuff. Yeah. Mm-hmm. Right. All right. Speaking of user stuff, let's get into weddings. Now you guys are in the photography business. Do you primarily do weddings? Yes, primarily weddings. And how long have we been doing this?
How many years? Since 20. 23. Okay. Is when I really just kicked off the business. Started jumping into the wedding industry. Yeah. So yeah. What got you into it? The wedding industry or photography? Photography in general. So photography in general. I've been holding a camera as long as I can remember. Just literally, like when I was 10 years old, I started doing photo shoots with people.
So it's been forever. I have always held a camera. And then in high school, you know, I joined the yearbook team and started taking pictures of. The sports and stuff, but that wasn't really my Where'd you go to school? Bentonville West. Okay. All right. Yeah. And so 2023 was the year that I graduated, so that's when I really Oh, she's so young.
Yeah, we young. When did you two get married? La. Oh, 20, gosh, four. Gosh, I need to know. Last year. So you were what, 20? You were 20 or 19 when we got married? Yeah. I was 19 and he was 20. Yeah. Are you guys nuts? No. Crazy. He's homeschooled. That's what you do. My gosh. That's old for my family. Yeah.
We're Mennonites loves her. I grew up around, a lot of Mennonites did. Yeah. Right down the road. Yeah. So you, you're like, I, I want to do this. Yeah. Photography thing. Once I graduated, I was like, this can definitely be a career. Let's go. Let's do it. And just went all in. So yeah, when I met her she had a camera in her hands.
So really that is actually true. Where did you two meet? That is true. Down on All American Bike Trail. Yeah, I was, I was in town mountain biking and, 'cause I'm a mountain biker. I love it. Yeah. So that got me down here and she was half, she was doing a school project. With, and it was kind of, what was it? Do you remember?
It was just like a student led project. Yeah. And so I just came up with the idea to go out and take pictures of mountain bikers. Yeah. Oh cool. But yeah, stocking like some future action shots. Yeah. I was gonna say, yeah. School project to take a picture of your future husband. Yeah. Where are you from? Scope?
Park? Park. I'm from Nevada, Missouri. Oh, Nevada Farm Town in Missouri. Oh, I know Nevada Good. Yeah. I went to McDonald County High School. So we played you guys in sports. Okay. It was always the furthest. Place we played away from us. Gotcha. In the middle of nowhere, Nevada, there's nothing going on in Nevada.
Nothings not much going on there. You only go through Nevada when you're going to Kansas City? Yep. Okay, so it's a kind of town. Oh yeah. Yeah. The only pace people know when I'm like, I am from Nevada. They're like, oh yeah, I stopped there. When I go to Kansas City n Nevada, I get, sounds good. Yeah. I get gas there.
Yeah. They're like, isn't I get gas there. Get gas there. Yeah, I get gas there. The best gas station. Oh man. So you and Shelby are a powerhouse duo. How do you manage the creative dance of staying, you know, out of each other's shots? Well, that's always a working, we're always working on that. We don't do the best job.
Sometimes I, I'll get a video clip and then I'll kind of like, I'll be editing and be like, Hey, I'll be kinda laughing about it and next thing you know, she's walking right through my shot when I, when it's like an important man, like, get outta here. Yeah, we bump into each other, so, but now we're, we're getting better at that.
Yeah. We kind of just are figuring out how to kind of dance around each other as we're getting what we need to get. So, yeah. So we talked about this this week, you know, a few weeks back at the event. Yep. So you primarily help out a lot with video side of right? I do. Yeah. So I do video and I kind of do the back a little bit more of the background of the business, so reaching out to vendors and stuff and just kind of build a more of a.
A connection to vendors we like and, and just kind of, yeah, deal with some of the social media. I mean, we both do the social media, but we kind of get together and, you know, we make, you know, real clips and stuff like that. And then, but yeah, primarily video and then just kind of networking. So, so before her, were you doing video?
No. You just kinda, you're like, let's, yeah, she was like, do it, you know, she's like. Because she was doing it first. She was really, this is really kind of her baby. Yeah. And then so she was doing this first and she's like, you know, honey, we're, I kind of need another person for this. And we, you know, we kind of had the demand for video and whatnot, and that's not a small feat to take on, but no means it's very complex and complicated, right.
So I said, why not? So, but complimentary. Yeah. To what she does. Exactly. Yeah. That's perfect. Yeah, exactly. We actually had a couple who was, they were reaching out to me to photograph their wedding in Mexico, and I was like, oh my gosh, that's great. I would love to do that. But they really wanted video, so that kind of sparked that idea.
We were like, it's, we wanna go to Mexico. Couples want this. Like, why don't we just do it together? Yeah, absolutely. And be able to offer that to them. Yeah. So you just learned all of this? Yeah. Yeah. It's been a lot, you know, just doing a lot of research and just kind of diving into, I mean, what makes a good video?
Yeah. And then, you know, I've been kind of going and kind of looking at more, even like movie style stuff. 'cause I mean, yeah, they're the best people at making videos, right? I mean, right. Movie producers. So what were you doing before this and photographers? I was actually working, where are we located at?
Just down the street. Bentonville bicycle company from house. Oh yeah. Bentonville Bicycle company. That was a bike condition there. What's the owner's name? Jesse Hall. Jesse? Yeah. I'm Polyus. I can't pronounce his last name. I love Jesse. He's hooked me up with mini bikes. Yep. Jesse's a good guy. He's and he lives right down the street.
Yep. So love Jesse. Yeah, we're pulling up, I'm like, Hey, he's close to Jesse. He owns a lot of random things too. He does. He does. He's got a lot of real estate needs on his stuff so, so random. He's like, yeah, my kids wanna start a business. So they handle Pokemon for Sam's Club and stuff. Yep. I'm like, what?
He's like, yeah. I'm like, okay. Very diversified. Yeah. And we DJ'ed his wedding. Oh, cool. Oh, you did? No way. Yeah. Oh, that's awesome. Yeah, so when we, we connected several years ago, he's like, Hey, you, your company DJ'ed my wedding about, you know, at that time, 10 years ago. I'm like, whoa. Oh, wow. You are you still married?
Yep. All right, cool. It's success. Success. So captured by Shelby has a very distinct, polished, yet emotional look. Where'd you get that look like? You know, everybody has their own style. Mm-hmm. How'd you come up with that style? I feel like it's just a representation of how I see the world. Okay. And how I see people.
I just am like, I would say very deep type of person. I love to focus on emotion. That's a, obviously the huge part of my brand, and I want people to, I don't wanna just take flat photos. Yeah. Right. I want it to be able to feel something and I want people to see the photo and it's like. Actually a representation of them and like how they feel and stuff like that.
So, yeah. So does this mean, mark, that you have a lot of in depth deep conversations together? With who? With your wife. Oh, always. Yeah. She's very always, yes, always. I'd hate that all the time. I'd hate it. Brooke's more of a surface level guy. My wife loves to get deep and I'm like. I'm not in the mood right now.
Really? Because I see I That's crazy. Love that because he loves that. Love what you Yeah, I would love that outta Danielle. Hey, she, she, you want to have a conversation with my wife? Is that what you're saying? No, my, but the thing is I know I would love for you to, you play the part of me just for conversations.
I mean, just. The other night I was sitting there having a conversation with my wife and I'm trying to, you know, get like deep and just be like, look, you know, here's the things that like have been affecting me and these other stuff. And she's like, sorry, what? Oh no. Oh man. What was that? Oh man. I'm like, what are you doing?
I'm a little guilty of that. Sometimes she'll be like, unloading something and I'm like, okay, can you go back just a little bit? I, she's like a little bit meaning the very beginning. Yeah, that's what it was. And uh, and I'm like, what was the last thing you heard me say? I said that and she's like. I was focused on my cuticle.
Oh geez. Oh no, she wasn't there. I have that with my buddy at the gym. If we're in between sets and I'm looking at my phone, my brain is, I can usually multitask, but I'm focused on something. He'll talk to me and be like, nevermind. I'm like, wait, what'd you say? He is? I just had a whole conversation with you and you answered, I go, what was it about?
What was it about? Oh, no, I've done that, man, I've done that. I'm so a d, d that I'm like, huh? Or my daughter would be like, dad, dad, dad. I'm trying to tell you something. I'm like. What? I didn't even know you were here. Oh my goodness. You're home so bad. Where did you come from? It's so bad. So, you know, when a couple hires, sometimes a separate video and and photography person, there can be some friction, you know?
What do you tell people? Like, Hey, it's better to hire a couple that does it together than just separate. Yeah. I mean, we know each other, so it's like, yeah, when we kind of, when we kinda, you know. Go to an event or a wedding, you know, we're already on the same page with stuff. We don't have to Right.
Communicate beforehand and we don't have to, you know, really have all those little hiccups at first to kind of figure out how to work together. Right. It's like we work through it all the time. And then also our styles are, are similar, so you're gonna have kind of a same, you know, color grading, stuff like that.
So when you get your finished product back, it's all gonna be pretty cohesive, so. Oh, I like that. Yeah, because there can be, like, if there's a photographer and a different videographer, you have to be like, Hey, I need some shots here. Exactly. I need to do this. I want to do this as well. And not try to get in each other's way.
Exactly. And we're husband and wife, so we're not afraid to talk to each other and figure out stuff, so, and she's like, hold on one second, we need to have a conversation. Yeah. Not a long one, not a deep, long conversation, please. Yeah, the, I mean, that makes sense because, you know, if I lose my wedding, I kind of want things to have like some symmetry, like Yeah.
It's like I don't want to be like, oh, hey, this is intimate photos. Yeah. And then like super colorful, bubbly video. Right, exactly. Yeah. It doesn't fit. Doesn't fit the vibe. Even though that might be a cool style on its own, it just like, I want a full package. Oh, for sure. Yeah, that's what she said. Sorry, I had to, I had to say it couldn't help it I to set up, so one of the things I wanted to ask you guys was about the, like a groom's perspective and you know, as like.
You know, we focus on the bride, but like as a male creator in the space, sorry, Shelby as a male creator in the space, like it, you know. I think that we sometimes see the grooms, you know, thing kind of taken the backseat. Yeah. Right. Is there anything that, you know, when you're approaching a wedding that you're thinking like, okay, I want to do something that's really going to, you know, shine a little light on him as well?
For sure. So I feel like the main thing, what's nice about being a male in this industry is like when you, when you do get to go approach the grooms and then the, the groom and all that, and then the, the groomsmen, sorry. It's really nice because like I can just kind of make everybody relax. You know, we can kinda say a few Joes kind of laugh about stuff and then kind of get 'em all relaxed and then, then you can kind of really capture, hey, this is actually what this guy's like, you know?
Yeah. And then like they're not all stiff and whatnot. You can, they can really kind of relax in the moment. So I feel like I can kind of chit chat, get everybody feeling relaxed and good. And then that's something she even said, she's like, man, it's nice to have you here because all the groomsmen are more relaxed and they're kind of more chilling and you know.
Having a good time. So let's hear some of these jokes. Oh gosh, John, and laugh, you know. You know, really, what do I do sometimes I'm a disgruntled groom right now. I really, I'm very upset. I don't, I just hear, but no one cares about me. I don't really have like good jokes, but really it's more just kinda like, they'll all be lined up and I'll be, oh my gosh, you guys all look so beautiful.
And that just, that just, that just melts 'em all down. They just kind of chuckle videographer funny. I think he's, I think he's hitting on us, right? Hey, it makes him relax and then you get one grooms and Well, you're kind of cute as well, but No, it just don't mind him. That's just James. Oh my gosh, that's funny.
But yeah, no, it just, you know, I can, and it's always. I don't have like the set of things I say, I just kind of feel the room and kind of go from there. So you guys obviously do first looks with photography and videography. Yep. Do you guys prefer a traditional take where like the groom is there at the ceremony already by the efficient and turns around or, or do you guys like to do more of that intimate, you know, where meeting for the first time, like under the staircase or something, you know what I mean?
Yeah, yeah. I personally prefer the more traditional just because I think it's so special for them to have that moment and everyone. All their family's there. Everyone gets to be a part of that. And I know it's definitely more trending right now for people to kind of do it before the ceremony. Mm-hmm.
Mostly for the sake of photos, but I just like it the more traditional way. I think that's special. What do you think? Yeah, you do get some good raw motions from first, from like, you know, down the aisle first seeing each other. You know, you get a lot of those good raw emotions that come through. Mm-hmm. It feels more real and not, um, there is kind of an upside though, to, I feel like having the first look happening because you, you get to almost have like just them two.
That's, and you get to photograph them really well seeing each other for the first time. And I, to me that, I mean, to me it has, its up. They both have their ups and downs and then both have their perks. So, yeah. I feel like from a, and this is just me, but like, I feel like from a photography standpoint. I, I, I feel you on the traditional thing, I'm a big supporter of just like that, you know, traditional wedding layout for the ceremony, right?
Yeah. But like from a videographer edge, it seems like you could get some really, you know, cool emotional shots from a personal, from a personal, yeah. And I can, yeah. So that's, yeah. Like I said, it's got its ups and downs. I probably prefer that just 'cause I feel like I have more time to really kinda like.
Get that really nice emotional moment that I, I'm looking for. So, yeah. And like, you know, speaking of the videography, so it's obviously it's evolved over the years. Yeah. Because it used to just be like home movies. Yeah. You know, shoulder cam. Yeah. Right. Yard cam. But you know, nowadays you guys are taking eight to 10 hours of.
Raw footage. Yeah. And kind of dwindle it down to like three minutes of like Exactly. Yeah. Of like a trailer. Yeah. You know? Oh yeah. What? Like I try to look at a video, it's like, okay, I'm just gonna try to make this seem like a really kind of emotional and cool trailer if I can. So what kind of shots are you looking for?
I'm looking for shots that kind of, well, if we're at a good venue, you know, shots that capture kind of where they're at and then, you know. And then kind of get them both kind of getting ready separately. Mm-hmm. And then kind of have like that a, you know, you almost have like kind of the emotions of them being by themselves separately, and then you kind of, it kind of builds up to them other than they see each other and then, you know.
Mm-hmm. But Shelby can probably explain shots a lot better than I can just 'cause she's much better at composition and whatnot. Yeah. Mainly for my brand too. It's just like storytelling. Right. From the beginning of the day, just setting the scene, setting the vibes, and also like capturing the guests.
That's an important thing for me. Yeah. Capturing how they're interacting and because when do you have all your family, all your friends, just all together in one spot? Yeah, never. That's just not, you don't ever do that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Maybe at Christmas or something, right? Yeah, maybe. Maybe. But usually not even that because it's like both sides of the family.
They're both there. So yeah, just really capturing the guest is important to me and how they interact and how they interact with the couple and trying to do that for, you know, 'cause if, you know, you let 10, 15 years go by and looking back on a video or something that's, you know, three minutes like that.
You know, it's kind of cool that you guys incorporate the scenery of where you're at as well as the shots, because then they're like, oh my gosh, remember our wedding? Oh, that was such a beautiful place. And you know, yeah. And they look back on those kind of things. Mm-hmm. So I like your, your style of just being able to kind of put it into a story, like, here's a few minutes and it tells a story visually.
Yeah. Yeah. Yes. Yeah. She does a really good job at storytelling and you know, I'm kind of. Learning in away from her. 'cause you know, I mean, I do video, but still like, there's like composition and kind of storytelling that still mm-hmm. Goes hand in hand with photos. So I've learned a lot from her with, and she's really good at telling stories with her photos, so, and and com Oh.
So, you know, putting all that stuff together. Mm-hmm. But also like choosing, like how do you frame things Yeah, exactly. And those kind of things. Yep. Yeah. Any new pieces of gear that you guys got that you're just like, man, this took us up the next level. So for my videography, I've been, so I, at first I had a, like a DGI Gimbal that I had my camera on, and that was, that was smooth and buttery, but it kind of was a little complex and kind of finicky.
So it's kind of hard to get the shots that I need if something's like in a split second. And you know how wedding days goes, everything's happening really fast. Right? So, but what I switched to is actually a handheld rig by small rigs, and that's been super awesome. You've been great. Yeah. I have a monitor, big monitor on top, and then I can just, I can really get everything I need.
And you know, you do kind of get that natural camera, a little bit of camera shake, but to me that kind of adds a cool style to it. Yeah. Yeah. And it just has, it has a really nice, real look to it, and I can get pretty much every shot I need. I feel like I really don't miss anything anymore. It's like an intimate thing of like, you know, not to throw this out of completely left field, but like when Steven Spielberg.
Kind of introduce the handheld thing. Yeah. And like saving private Ryan. Yeah. It makes you feel like you're there. You're there. Yeah. Exactly. Exactly. Yeah. I was gonna ask, because you know, I do obviously weddings and Yeah. And I always notice that you guys, you know, also do audio Yeah. With your guys' stuff.
And it's like 50, you know, if you have, uh, uh, footage with bad audio, it just doesn't work. Right, exactly. Yeah. So how do you guys approach getting good audio and, and then on top of that. How do you guys coordinate so that you can capture like the perfect I dos or like the, you know, good angles outta toast?
Yeah. Like what is your guys' strategy going into that? So, as far as audio goes on, you know, my end. So, I mean, really a lot of times I'll have, it just depends. I have an onboard mic, a road mic that goes right on my camera. And so if there's like any surrounding sounds that I need to capture, that's kinda, you know, a lot of times it's really noisy during wedding.
Youre just kinda have a lot of background, a lot of chatter, but sometimes you get a few moments where you're like, oh man, I wish I would've had that. So I just have that there generally recording all the time. And then so if somebody has like a little quick speech real quick, everybody else kind of quiets down.
And even if I have like a song playing over it, I can kind of, I can kind of taper that off and kind of have like a little speech moment and then it kind of can pick back up. But also I'll have lapel mics if I need. Mm-hmm. And then I'm gonna be getting a, a recording device that plugs in. Just like your guys' equipment.
Yeah. So I can kind of get everything from the day. So ever think of just hiring a boom operator to walk around with you. That would be awesome. That'd be great. You wish? That'd be great. John, that. There you go. This is Troy. He's gonna be with me all day. It's like this Kevin. Like those Kevin James? Yeah.
Clips where? You're gonna be, he's gonna be with me all day. So you guys travel all over Arkansas? Mm-hmm. What's your favorite venue or a hidden gym venue that captures photography? Uh, it's not really a hidden gym photography, but definitely the Grande Willow Springs. Oh yeah. Love that place. It's just stunning.
So we're there quite often? Yeah, I'm there. Quite often. What happens? It's kind. Well, I hope we see again there. It's kind of like my new home home away from home. Yeah. Yeah. That's awesome. I love working there. It's stunning. I love Carrie and Whitney down there. Yeah. It's great. Mm-hmm. What about your second favorite?
What do you like? Where did you get married? We got married at, on Minecraft? Yeah. It was digital. Yeah, it was Java edition. No, we got married in GR it at Hidden Falls. Hidden Falls, yeah. Which is beautiful as well. Yeah. Yeah. It's great. You'd never know that was there. I know it. That that is a hidden gem for sure.
Yes. Nobody knows about it. No, and And they got that cool falls and everything. Yes. Yeah. Did you guys do last time I was there. So you did everything there, like ceremony and everything? Yeah. Yeah. You do the ceremony down by the falls. Um, kind of like overlooking, there's like a peninsula right there. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Okay. For sure. That's cool. Did you know those falls? Are they actually pump the water to the top of there? I didn't know that. Yeah, they have water pumps. They'll, they'll turn 'em on. Yeah. So it's not a natural falls. Oh, unfortunately not. But you never known. It's still cool. It's still awesome. You never know.
Never know. You know, we're seeing a big trend in social media, content creators at weddings. How do you feel about guests or extra staff filming on iPhones where you're trying to capture? Uh, I don't mind. As long as they're not in my way. Yeah. Just get outta my way. Exactly. Especially during ceremony. Yeah.
I think the guests with their phones during the ceremony has gotten a little outta hand sometimes. Yeah. It's like, put the phone down live in the moment, like, we're here for a reason, but also. Yeah, there's a time and place for it, for sure. Yeah. And what are you trying to capture as a guest? Yeah, that I, Hey, you know, it's like I probably just want something, right.
Then they can be like, Hey, look, I went to their wedding. You know? I don't know, but nah, don't do that. It's ceremony. Even at like, wait for the good stuff, concerts and stuff. It's like, what are you, are you ever gonna look at that again? Like 20 minutes of the concert? Yeah, probably not. No, no. You know, I don't think I've ever went back and looked at like, oh, I gotta get this, and then you never watch it again.
Yeah, that's so true. What we really appreciate though, is we'll go to some weddings and we've had, they've had a sign put up. It's like, Hey, please put a wedding. Love that. What, now we have a professional Yeah. Or we'll make an announcement as well. Yeah. No, I love when you guys do that. Put that phone away, grandma.
It's always a, and it's, it's always positive, complimentary. It's always like, Hey, we have wonderful. Media. Yeah. Right. And photographers and videographers. You know, please put your phones away during this, you know, moment. Yeah, that's great. No, we, we really appreciate that kinda input. I did, uh, I didn't do a wedding, this is before I was in wedding, so this was probably 2002, 2003.
Oh, wow. I was born in 2003. Man. Oh Lord. Um, I, I was at a wedding for a friend and digital cameras had just really Oh yes. Been, become affordable in the, the grooms. Grandma had one and in the middle of the ceremony she walks up, you know, Hey wrist, his name's wrist. Look over here. Taking pictures. Hey, right here, are you?
It was at a church, like having him turn around and look at her? Yeah, yeah. Oh, no. In the middle of the ceremony. Wow. It was hilarious, man. That's bold. It was a very, I mean, so the weddings back then weren't like they are today. Yeah, right. It was funny. He's since divorced, but, oh no. Yeah, that, that's, that relationship didn't last long.
Maybe 'cause of grandma, but yeah. She's like, Hey, right here. She snapped. Oh, nope. Lemme try again. No. Oh my God, it was hilarious. Hilarious. Not flying today. Wow. Yeah. So do you offer social media content creation? Not really. It's not an offer. I do it kind of behind the scenes for people and then I just, whatever I record, I send to them, you know?
'cause it's good for us too. Yeah. You know, 'cause we'll use it for our marketing. So it just kind of depends on, you could always add that as an upsell 'cause you're doing it anyways. You could. Yeah. I have thought about that. Like, hey, we will also provide. 10 clips from your wedding. That you can post on social.
Mm-hmm. 'cause you already have the content, right? That's true. For $9 million. Yeah. An extra a hundred, 200 bucks. Yeah. Yeah. I pay for that A little add-ons. Add up, man. Yeah, those are good. They do. Yeah. Well and that's, yeah. 'cause then, you know, 'cause everyone has Instagram and Facebook nowadays. Yeah. And then it's so easy for them just to put a little 32nd clip Yeah.
Of the dance floor. Yeah. 32nd clip of the ceremony. Yeah. That'd be something to think about. Yeah. For sure. If you don't do it, I'm gonna do it. You already do it. Yeah, true. Hey Brock, we booked you for some media coverage here. Come on, man. What do you love most about weddings? I'm gonna let you answer that.
Honey. I just love the connection. There's just like, like I already said earlier, it's just like all of your family, all of your friends, and the couple, it's just a celebration. Yeah. I just love how everyone's happy to be there. They just wanna have fun and just celebrate the couple. Yeah, I just love the energy.
It's just such a good vibe. It's fun. It's. Like really upbeat and you just have a good time. It is really cool kind of being in the middle of families getting to see each other after so long a lot of times, or like, you know, right. And that's, and a lot of times they travel from coming from all over. Yeah.
Oh, absolutely. Yeah. It's just really cool to see, you know, we did one in Mexico a few weeks ago. Mm-hmm. And let's go. That was awesome, by the way. That was great. And then I'll talk a little bit more about that. And then as soon as you left cartel hit and Oh. That was, that was the airport your fault. That was the airport we landed next to.
It was your fault. Yeah, my, that happened because you were there. I know, that's right. So, and we left before it happened. See that's so that's the fun part about being a photographer and a videographer. You can do those destination weddings. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Absolutely. And get to see Mexico like that was our first time there, so it was really cool.
Yeah. We stayed in, how you pronounce it, Cita. Yep. Yep. Nice. They did not drink the water that Right. Not drink the water. That's because I saw them the week after Montezuma's Revenge. Ah, my stomach is killing me. I got good shots though. So what are your goals with, with Capture by Shelby? What would you like to see happen in the next few years?
I would say just. Uh, really always serving clients that are aligned with our vision. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. And just always serving dream clients and getting our yearly intake, you know, just being really specific with what we have, you know? Yeah. Instead of maybe doing like 40 weddings. Yeah. You know, we do like 20 and they're really kind of exactly what we want.
Right. You know? Yeah. So, and that's, I mean, that's, I feel like that's everybody's goal in this industry. It's like cater to your vision. Yeah, absolutely. Yeah. So, yeah. What would you say? Yeah, I mean, kind of what you said, but just Yeah. Getting, getting clients that are Yeah. Like aligned with us and kind of, you know, also, it's really nice to have couples that are just really relaxed in front of a camera.
Yeah. That's kind of not super common. The, the, the couple in Mexico were great. They just, they'd act like we weren't even there. And that's perfect. That's exactly what we look for. That's, that's a dream right there. Oh, right. You wanna get them in their natural habitat. Yeah. I mean, obviously you know you're gonna True.
Yeah. Natural habitat, you know, Shelby's obviously gonna be posing them still and whatnot for certain shots, but a lot of times, if they were just naturally have this good kind of composition with each other. It also turns out better for them in the long run if they're able to be like that. So Yeah. 'cause if you are kind of nervous and tense, it shows, it'll show.
Yeah. So I've asked this question before to a different photographer. How do you deal with a backseat photographer? Like we get as DJs sometimes the guys that come up and they're like, yeah, as a DJ for 35 years, trust me bro, you need to play this. Right? That's funny you guys. Do you guys get anybody that's like.
Like, oh, you know, I think you should shoot. Maybe. What if we did this? Oh my gosh, yes. Every, every single wedding. Every single wedding. It's like a mom or grandma or aunt something. Yeah, for sure. Not even a photographer. Yeah. You got a lot more, you got a lot more scenarios like that. Yeah. It's always you're like, oh, sorry, I'm capturing the, the action shots that you just walk away from her.
Yeah, yeah. Oh, I gotta go get that. Let me, yeah. I have a lot of people come up to me and be like. You should really get this shot. Or they'll be like, did you get that? Were you getting that as I'm like pointing camera, like get outta my face. Yeah. It's like, I'm like, there's this really awesome shot that you just have to get, and then we go kind of see what they're talking about and we're kind of looking at each other and trying not to be rude.
You know? It's one of those things I just. Smile and nod and continue smiling away boys. Ma'am, I've already taken 1800 shots. Yes, and we got it. We're not even in the reception yet. Yeah, like we got this. Yeah, I definitely got that photo a couple hours ago, so don't worry. Or like, or the people that want you to take a million shots during dinner.
Yes, we have those. That happens a lot. Alright. Right. Put that fork up to your mouth. Smile like you enjoy the food. All right. Nobody wants to see those pictures. No, nobody cares. No one wants to get their picture taken Right while they're eating. Right? Yeah. We had some people at a wedding In, where was that?
In Utah? Was that our Utah wedding? That we did recently. I'm not sure what you're talking about, about, but like it was during, it was during, everybody was eating and, and then one of the, one of the parents came up of the bride and they were like, Hey, why aren't you guys taking photos right now? It's like everybody's eating.
Like nobody wants to see that. Oh yeah. Take photos of what people eating. Yeah, no, that you're like, yeah. Stuff in their faces. What? Like get outta Yeah. Mid bite I guess. If you want that. It's like we gotta eat right now too. Come on. Look at these. Look at these slow-mo shots that I got. Alright, it's time for some rapid fire questions.
Oh yeah. Drone shots. Essential for every wedding or only for specific venues and, and styles. I think for it's really. Specific, I mean, not specific, really specific. You could always kind of throw 'em in Uhhuh. I feel like some venues don't need it. It doesn't always, 'cause they're not like, wow, this thing's amazing from, you know, a further back shot.
But it just really depends. Okay. If you got like an awesome beach location or something like that, I think that's always pretty important to have. A drone or you know, if it's at the grand, at Willow Springs. I mean, that's a beautiful video. So that is beautiful. Beautiful for a drone shot. Yeah. What's the one song that you guys have heard a million times that you could pretty much edit a video to it in your, in, in your sleep?
Your sleep? Oh, man. I don't know if I know anything off the top of my head. I'm, I'm not really a person that remembers what song is called. I have some. I mean, you guys are DJ, so you can know everything mean, right? Yeah. By Usher September. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. But Usher like that one. Oh, yeah. Every that's, I've never, we've never been to one yet that hasn't played that, so, oh, I've been to one several, but.
Just because they're like, eh, it's a little too racy. Like freaking in the bed. Yeah, we don't like that. Like, okay, bend over to the front touch toes. What's wrong with that? Alright. Favorite time of day to shoot? Golden Hour or Blue Hour right after Sunset. Golden Hour. Golden. Yeah. Golden Hour. You like that song by Jake?
That's a, that's a cool song. A little piano one. Sometimes they have that for ceremony. Yeah. Like cattle walk in it. Yeah. It is cool. It is cool. Uh, let's see here. If you weren't doing this, if you weren't capturing weddings, what do you think you would be doing? Yeah, I'd probably still be a bike shop mechanic, I would say for sure.
Yeah. Yeah. Bike shop. I kind of came here to be in the biking industry and then, you know, this kind of unfolded and this has been great. Well, you can still do. You can still do it. I know. Why aren't you filming bikers? And making videos of that. You know, that's a good question. Why not? Why not? Like the movie Rad.
It's a little older than you are. That's an eighties movie. But it is, it's about, it's not about mountain biking. It's BMX biking. Oh, okay. Oh, it's incredible. It is. It's a fun, funny movie all time. Oh lord. You got bad taste of movies. Alright honey. I would just find a way to be an entrepreneur. That's whatever it looks like.
Work for yourself. Yeah, working for myself in whatever way I could. I like that. Yeah. Yeah. John, what would you be doing? Probably just doing kind of what I do now. Just music outside. Yeah, just lots of music, mixing, loves music, that type of stuff. Yeah. This actually is for, I, I feel like this is for Shelby here, black and white or full.
Color photos for emotional moments? Um, black and white for sure. And why? I have to say, I don't know. I just feel like it kind of takes away, it just like when there's color, there's a lot of things to look at. There's a lot going on in the photo and color adds in all the pops, but if you just strip that completely and you just have black and white, it's like.
You only have the emotion to look at. Yeah, that's good. Ceia or tin type?
We're going like Western or mid 1860s. Oh my gosh. No. Brock, what do you got? What do you got? I got nothing. That was awesome. Yeah, I don't got anything either. Anything you want to tell potential clients? Why should they book you? I'm gonna let you answer that. Okay. I think they should book us if they wanna have an amazing experience, Uhhuh, we're not just focused on their photos, we're focused on their experience and making sure that they're actually taken care of from start to finish.
And even after the finish, like even after the wedding day. So if they wanna have people that really care about them, care about their marriage and their legacy, and just capturing that, and then we're the people to work with. I love it. Yeah, and I can attest to that. I've done multiple events with them and they are on top of it when it's time to focus, and other than that, they're super socially just wonderful people.
Appreciate that. Thank you. Thank you. Where can we find you? You can find us on Instagram. Captured by Shelby. Photo is my username. Or if you wanna check me out on my website, it's just captured by shelby photo.com. Check it out. Thanks so much for joining us today. Absolutely. Thanks for having us here. It's a great time.
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