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S6 EP11 | In the 90's, movies based on sitcoms from 25 years prior were a thing. The studio demands that this film type returns, and the guys unlock core memories of classic 90s sitcoms.
Two screenwriters attempt to recreate, reimagine, or flat out fix, existing film franchises when 'the studio' demands...MORE FILMS! It's an exercise in creative thinking where they will challenge themselves to conceptualize, pitch, and craft a film based on the stipulations of a hypothetical Hollywood overlord. | Sixfive Media
Everyone's dog is named three sixty. I'm like, what is this joke?
Speaker 2:I don't know. I was trying to start the you absolutely were.
Speaker 1:Should I make you read the intro?
Speaker 3:I've I haven't done that
Speaker 1:in no.
Speaker 2:No. We shouldn't. Alright.
Speaker 1:You are better at it.
Speaker 3:Hello, and welcome to the studio demands it, an exercise in creative thinking where we will conceptualize, pitch, and craft a film or series based on the demands from one of you listeners acting as a hypothetical Hollywood Overlord. Overlord. Jim, do you listen to this show? Do you do you technically count as a listener?
Speaker 1:I believe I have listened to enough
Speaker 3:Okay. To
Speaker 1:count as.
Speaker 3:Okay. Good. That that that's just for we'll get there in a minute. As professional screenwriters ourselves and massive cinephiles, we talk movies all the time. All the time.
Speaker 3:And we'd like to believe that we could meet any demand thrown at us. We will be your screenwriters for this episode. I am TC DeWitt. And joining me, as always is Jim
Speaker 1:Taking over the podcast. Woah. Verzalek.
Speaker 3:He knocked me to the floor when he said That's right.
Speaker 1:That's right. Today, I decided my middle name.
Speaker 3:God. You pushed me over. Like, he had to reach across the table and do it. Is this chairless?
Speaker 1:No. It's fine.
Speaker 3:It's
Speaker 2:fine. You you knocked me out of the chair.
Speaker 3:Hello, everyone. Yeah. Jim taking over the the podcast, bro. What's up? I just before we started, I prompted by asking I asked Jim if he wanted to do the intro.
Speaker 3:There's there's probably less than a dozen. There's definitely less than dozen. Probably less than a half dozen Yeah. Times you've opened the show. Yeah.
Speaker 3:So I think initially
Speaker 1:I think it's about once a season.
Speaker 3:I don't and we didn't do it last season, don't think.
Speaker 1:Oh,
Speaker 3:no? But it really was a case of like, hey. Maybe we should alternate this at some point, and you were like, don't don't don't make me do this.
Speaker 1:When because and then every time I do it, it feels, it it feels like learning to ride a bike all over again. Hello. Which is weird because I know how to read. Yeah. I know how to read out loud.
Speaker 3:And you know how to ride a bike.
Speaker 1:It's true. I've seen it. And
Speaker 3:For whatever reason.
Speaker 1:I think it's because you make me do both at the same time.
Speaker 3:Riding the bike around while doing the intro? Yeah. Yeah. No. I've said it so many times.
Speaker 3:Like, I don't I I know I'm reading off the I don't have to look at I still have to
Speaker 1:look at
Speaker 3:the script, but I don't have to at this point. People ask me what the show is about, and I go, hello.
Speaker 2:It's an exercise in creative thinking. What is it?
Speaker 1:What is it about?
Speaker 2:What's your what's your
Speaker 3:show about? Welcome to studio, James.
Speaker 2:It's an exercise in creative thinking. Alright.
Speaker 3:Well, for today, that's why I asked Jim if he actually listens to the show because the listener demand is
Speaker 1:For today, I'm I'm the over I am the Hollywood overlord.
Speaker 3:Well, let me let me do our little spiel here. Jim, our amazing listeners have given us demands from studios literally all over the world. We actually listed the number of how many demands we haven't done yet
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 3:Last week. And you listening now, you can send us any demand you'd like. Jim, you listening now. You can send any demand you like and we will have to we'll read it and meet it right here on the spot. And when we reach the end of the episode, if we've done our jobs, we will have pitched a full script and story meeting or even exceeding those demands.
Speaker 3:And when the end of the season comes, your demand could have helped us craft the script that will be greenlit by the fans for our finale. Thank you everyone who has submitted. We will continue to take your submissions. But today, Jim has has brought demand to the table. Yeah.
Speaker 3:And, I am definitely in the back foot here because at the very least, I know our subject matter most of the time.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 3:As we've pulled the curtain back more than once now, we we know the subject matter at
Speaker 2:least.
Speaker 1:Well, it's in your wheelhouse. It's movies.
Speaker 3:Oh, I've seen I've seen those. Yeah. Okay. Have you seen the one where the train arrives at the station? Yes.
Speaker 3:Horrifying. Horrifying. Right? People suffering from fear.
Speaker 1:It it it's coming right at you?
Speaker 3:It was coming we all thought it was gonna come out of the screen. Anyway, I've seen that one at least. Don't shake your head, though. I hear I hear the internal model. I was like, what are we doing?
Speaker 1:No. So so I think this is actually sort of our third it's it's the third gag of this episode already that I feel like like, it's totally our sense of humor Yeah. But I feel is just a little too deep for for for most regular Like people.
Speaker 3:A casual listener choosing to listen to this episode first and be like, what are these knuckleheads doing?
Speaker 1:Did did they did he really just make a gag out of the the great train
Speaker 2:robber?
Speaker 1:Not not that The train arrives
Speaker 3:at the station. Yeah. Yeah. I did. Deal with it.
Speaker 1:The the third movie?
Speaker 3:Anyhow, Jim, yes, I have seen movies.
Speaker 1:Well, good. I the studio's demand is that you pitch craft craft pitch and make a movie. God. You're right. I should have written this down.
Speaker 1:Okay. No. So my demand Mhmm. From studio from studio yesteryear
Speaker 3:Mhmm. Okay.
Speaker 1:There was a point in the early two thousands Mhmm. Where there was a kick of nostalgia for old TV shows being brought back as movies.
Speaker 3:Okay.
Speaker 1:And all of the TV shows referenced were about twenty five to thirty years earlier.
Speaker 3:Oh, right. So, like, Brady Bunch and Beverly Hillbillies. Oh, boy.
Speaker 1:So I I was thinking back about these. Mhmm. And I got to thinking it's about time because there there is big nostalgia for nineties, mostly nineties media Mhmm. And TV shows.
Speaker 3:Right.
Speaker 1:So studio yesteryear would like you to put together a movie based on a TV show from twenty five to thirty years ago.
Speaker 3:Oh, wow. Okay. Now it's not like we haven't seen such such things. You're saying picture movie. Okay.
Speaker 3:So
Speaker 1:Right. So so right now, we're in the midst of so a lot of things from then have had kind of things come out. Right? Fresh Prince of Bel Air has been reimagined into a, into another TV show called Bel Air. Right.
Speaker 1:So it's not
Speaker 3:funny. Yeah.
Speaker 1:It's a drama.
Speaker 3:Yeah. Do you
Speaker 1:think do you think? Because I haven't watched it, do you think Bel Air has as many as many funny episodes as Fresh Prince of Bel Air had serious episodes?
Speaker 3:I do. I do think so. I I would bet That's awesome.
Speaker 2:Without ever seeing
Speaker 3:A very special episode where it gets zany. Jazz gets thrown out of the house in this one. Yay. Having not seen Bel Air
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 3:Other than the ad for the first season that came out in 2020
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 3:My assumption is off the success of Atlanta Mhmm. Some studio demands like, man, we need an Atlanta episode in here. There are some 2,000 shows that like, Curb Enthusiasm started in the year February.
Speaker 1:Really?
Speaker 3:First season of Curb Your Enthusiasm was in year February. Wow. Gilmore Girls was in was in February that had, like, a Netflix
Speaker 1:Mhmm.
Speaker 3:Sequel series. CSI is still going.
Speaker 1:It oh, I've really? I thought that finished. I holy dang. I thought that finished. I thought after Ted Danson Mhmm.
Speaker 1:Gus Grissom came back for a special, and then it was done.
Speaker 3:It's it's sixteen sixteen seasons. You know, I could be wrong. It could 've it could have ended in 2015. In fact, it did.
Speaker 1:Oh, okay. Malcolm in the middle is getting a revival?
Speaker 3:A revival series. Yeah. But you're those are all revival series. You're saying take
Speaker 1:so like Well, in so so sort of a corollary to this is because those are kind of being rekindled Mhmm. Those are less interesting to the studio.
Speaker 3:Right. So, like, MacGyver got rebooted Sure. Fairly recently. Lethal weapon was a series on its late eighties, early nineties movie series that was turned into a TV series.
Speaker 1:So the first things that occur to me Yeah. With this are t g I t g I Friday.
Speaker 3:T t g I f. Yeah. The original t g I f.
Speaker 1:T g I f is a restaurant.
Speaker 3:Yeah. The the ABC Friday night lineup of
Speaker 1:And actually, that's not even completely true. Home home improvement was the first thing I thought of, like, what if they made a movie? Home about the right amount of time.
Speaker 3:Oh, well,
Speaker 1:Tim Allen insist on being
Speaker 3:But he would just be a cameo because you know who would play Tim the Toolman Taylor in a home improvement movie that is likened to the Brady Bunch movie? Who? John Cena. John Cena would be Tim the dual man Taylor.
Speaker 1:Well, that's pretty good. Yeah. Oh, that's really good.
Speaker 3:Yeah. And and it could be as
Speaker 1:You fin you did it. You did
Speaker 2:the episode. This might be shorter than the, expendables episode, ladies and gentlemen.
Speaker 1:Five minutes. Done.
Speaker 3:Yeah. And and Home Improvement wasn't a TGIF show. That was a Mhmm. That was a primetime sitcom. The the original TGIF lineup, god, perfect strangers
Speaker 1:Mhmm.
Speaker 3:Which spun off to family Matters.
Speaker 1:Mhmm.
Speaker 3:Full House. God. Remember what that third one was. And then there was, like
Speaker 1:Step by step.
Speaker 3:Was that one of the Going Places was the original fourth show Oh. Which I think Andrew McCarthy started. If I'm really tapping into no. It wasn't Andrew McCarthy. It was the guy who's in this isn't worth remembering.
Speaker 3:Heather Locklear was in it too. Oh, Alan Ruck. It was it was Cameron. Cameron Fry. Oh.
Speaker 3:And it was a one season, whatever the case. Why about why do I remember that? I don't know. But, like yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 3:Yeah. Balki Bartokomos. Remember him?
Speaker 1:I do.
Speaker 3:Yeah. Perfect Strangers. So Full House already had a revival series, Fuller House. And you know what? I don't okay.
Speaker 3:I I saw every episode of Fuller House, not a full house. Oh, wow. I was committed
Speaker 1:Strange brag.
Speaker 3:It's a weird flex. So
Speaker 1:so and and it doesn't have to be that. We could go something else. It's a bit earlier than than the the parameters I gave, but Briscoe County Junior Mhmm. Yeah. Didn't didn't hasn't gotten a revival or or or or any sort of thing.
Speaker 1:So and and you do know the the the exec at this studio likes westerns.
Speaker 3:Mhmm. It's true. He does.
Speaker 1:But it could be something like that. Like, Buffy, I think, has gotten enough that and, actually, I think they're they're kicking around relaunching Yeah.
Speaker 3:They do. TV show. There's there's been many conversation about that.
Speaker 1:Oh, like a like a soft reboot kind of thing.
Speaker 3:The x men animated series, late nineties. '90 '7, as a matter of fact. Okay. So,
Speaker 1:boy. Honestly, I wasn't sure how to do home improvement, so I thought we were gonna go to family matters. Mhmm. But your pitch of John Cena
Speaker 3:As Tim Taylor.
Speaker 1:Is phenomenal. I the the problem is then what's it about?
Speaker 3:Well, modernizing it so okay. Fine. I'll I'll pitch you a I'll pitch you a home improvement
Speaker 1:Go for
Speaker 3:starring John Cena. He's a Can I be Al? You're Al Borland. Yeah. I don't think so, Jim.
Speaker 3:Aw. Come on. High five. Come on. That was good.
Speaker 3:That was
Speaker 1:really good. But to go with what you said, I have
Speaker 3:to be disappointed because you're not gonna let me either. Tim Taylor is the host of a YouTube home improvement series or like a streaming whole like, like a like a like a YouTube TikTok. He is a he he is providing this content.
Speaker 1:I'm I'm gonna I do wanna see where you're going with this. I would actually I would think he had a TV show. The the TV show is failing and he is trying to transition. To To new media.
Speaker 3:Okay. To new media. Okay. Maybe. My my suggestion was going to be that he starts because he keeps failing and hurting himself on these streams
Speaker 1:Okay.
Speaker 3:That he starts gaining notoriety. He is actually a competent mechanic, auto, like, Homer Carpenter, like, Homer Carpenter guy. He has Al keeping him in check. He starts gaining notoriety because of his fails. His viewership goes up, and now an actual network wants to bring him on to, like, the home and garden TV.
Speaker 1:You wanna wanes world him?
Speaker 3:Yes. That's that's precisely the the point of reference there would be cable access, local cable access, public access, success, make you a a national, international, or Netflix tie type show. And then it's and then we go Mighty Ducks two where it all goes to his head, and he becomes he becomes captain blood, and everyone hates him. And he's like, you know what? I was better off just in my hometown with my family.
Speaker 1:I still would argue the the going the other way where it's a TV show that's failing and he finds new new life in social media. Yeah. Because it kind of it it then matches kind of the rest of the you can you can make it match the rest of sort of concept of the show, which is this this this man manly man's tool man Mhmm. At home, he tries to be the man of the house. But of course, all these things the kids run rampant.
Speaker 1:The wife is is really wears the pants the family. He has to constantly seek advice from the neighbor.
Speaker 3:Mhmm.
Speaker 1:And it it would sort of the the arc could dovetail into that where the dad's like, I'm on TV. And the kids are like, no one watches
Speaker 3:that, dad. Yeah. What's TV?
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 3:Yeah. Okay. Yeah. I I think one of the the things to maintain from the show to reflect into a film would be this is he Tim Taylor was locally famous. Home Improvement.
Speaker 3:Okay. Tim tool time wasn't this big nationally televised series. He was It was? He he was locally famous. Oh.
Speaker 3:Okay. Bimford tools presents Tim the tool man Taylor.
Speaker 1:Okay. I I guess now that you mentioned that, that makes sense. I always imagined him like a Bob Villa type. Yeah. But Bob Villa actually was a a special guest.
Speaker 3:And his enemy. On. His nemesis.
Speaker 1:Yeah. On the home on the his tool time.
Speaker 3:National show. So but the idea that he has there might be some commentary towards the death of television into new media.
Speaker 1:And that that's what I would that's what I'd I'd I would like.
Speaker 3:Yeah. In in the in the reality of the show Mhmm. Yeah. If he if the if his home improvement show, Tool Time
Speaker 1:Mhmm.
Speaker 3:Is has is reaching the end of its tenure, like, we're this is our last season. We're kinda like it begins with him with the show ending, and now what does a guy who used to be locally famous
Speaker 1:Sure.
Speaker 3:Well, maybe maybe he no. No. Let's say he had a a nationally broadcast show, but now it's canceled and over with, and now he's just he that was it. He's not someone that they wanted to be a sports caster, announcer, like Ted Lasso style. Like, he's not being recruited by other networks.
Speaker 3:His show came and went. It's over with now. All the people who watched it are old people anyway. And anyone getting advice on how home improve, improve their home is getting it from the Internet, not some stupid TV show. And then that's when he was like, well, then I'll go to the Internet.
Speaker 1:Yeah. And it also aligns up with the entire notion of, the the the entire title home improvement. He's he's trying to improve upon this old house. That's Bob Mueller's show.
Speaker 3:That's right. Yeah. So then he first, so the show ends and he deals with the the aftermath of still thinking he's a big deal, but he's not even getting the the free meals at the local restaurants anymore.
Speaker 1:So that's the first act?
Speaker 3:Yes. Yeah.
Speaker 1:Okay.
Speaker 3:So then so then he is going around the house bothering his wife, and she's like, you need to find something to do with your retirement, Tim. I'm too young to retire. I'm still virile. Yeah. And then then the the the call to action or the the the herald, the the cross the threshold.
Speaker 1:He's he's at home. He's finding little things because he has had a job for however many years. Mhmm. He's finding things around the house to repair. Mhmm.
Speaker 1:And he's he's and so he starts doing that, which also annoys his wife and stuff because not that she liked it broken, but she because she had wanted him to fix it for years. Mhmm. But now he's over producing the entire thing.
Speaker 3:Like Tim did on the show all the time.
Speaker 1:Yeah. I don't even remember him remember him doing that around the house.
Speaker 3:Yeah. Like, the he tried to, like, more power over over to the dishwasher. That's right. Blowing dishes out the bar.
Speaker 1:Absolutely right. I I guess I didn't watch that show enough. But, like, he's he sees his kids on social media. He's like, what is that? Oh, no.
Speaker 1:No. And and and he's like, oh, I'm gonna do that. And and so he starts trying to produce his TV show on his own at home.
Speaker 3:Right. But he it's not he sees his kids on the Internet doing that and then decides that he is in the background of one of their Twitch streams, and and the comment section is blowing up about, what's your dad doing back there? Dad. Dad.
Speaker 1:Get out of here.
Speaker 3:Dad, get out of here. No. Bring your dad back. And they just keep seeing him in the background, and he and then that that's at least somewhat of a an like, what do what do you mean I'm what do you mean my clip went online? Well, someone recorded my Twitch stream and and posted you falling off the ladder.
Speaker 3:It's got, a million views. A million dollars? No. You don't No. You don't get paid for views.
Speaker 1:No. It's, like, it's not even a cent per view.
Speaker 3:Oh, wait. But people saw me?
Speaker 2:Okay.
Speaker 1:Well, because I the where I was gonna go is he he's trying to make and and maybe that's what leads into it. Mhmm. He's trying to make a legit home improvement social media channel.
Speaker 3:I still think he should do that.
Speaker 1:And Yeah. And, like, it goes wrong. Like, his lives keep going wrong and he falls over. People are starting to watch him for the the fratfalls Yeah. For the fails.
Speaker 1:Not fratfalls. Those those are those are purpose. Yeah. For the fails.
Speaker 3:He this is what he's doing. Okay. Yeah. Yes. This is what's happening.
Speaker 3:Okay. That is exactly what's happening. He keeps filming himself doing everything with the fails in it because he for whatever gets gets the idea, I'm gonna produce it. I'm gonna film a few episodes, and then I'll edit it together, and then I'll release the episodes. Maybe even his son even suggests that.
Speaker 3:What's Randy, Brad
Speaker 1:Andy and
Speaker 3:Well, his son Dandy. Yeah. Andy Andy, Randy, and Danny. No. He he okay.
Speaker 3:I'll just film 10 episodes, you know, and Mark or Randy or Brad is like, yeah. Yeah. Film film a season then edit it together because that's how they used to do the tool time. Right? It's like Okay.
Speaker 3:We film as we film a few episodes then edit them. The problem is when he runs the camera Mhmm. To film them, he goes live. And so then when he's
Speaker 1:like Okay. So he finishes them and he's like, okay. Now I need to edit it. Why is there no footage?
Speaker 3:Yes.
Speaker 1:Where's the footage?
Speaker 3:Shit. Exactly. And he's and, like, maybe he's collecting it in his phone. Like, we're making a move.
Speaker 1:That's what he thinks. That's what he thinks he's doing.
Speaker 3:But then he's like, alright. I I filmed my 10 episodes. Where's the footage? Where's the foot like, you didn't film it, dad. You went live.
Speaker 3:So then wait. So then people saw all my mistakes. Right? Like, he would normally edit out all of his his goofs or whatever.
Speaker 1:Sure. I think that's the better way. I still wanna what I was gonna pitch Mhmm. Was he is he's he's making a show. He doesn't know how to edit, and he doesn't have an editor.
Speaker 3:Right.
Speaker 1:Right? So that like, one of his kids even brings that up. He's like, that that's fine. This is this is gonna be true to life tool tool time. I'm gonna well, I'm gonna show him mistakes and all because the peep people will learn even better that way.
Speaker 1:And so it it pretty much starts as him just hitting record, stepping back, doing the stuff, doing the mess ups and stuff, throwing out a board, doing a new one.
Speaker 3:Putting a nail through his hand. Bends down. Bang.
Speaker 1:But not not at first. Not at at first. At first, it goes pretty well with a couple screw ups. No big deal. Mhmm.
Speaker 1:And he's actually happy with that. Even though it's screwed up, he's like, no. This is this is gonna be great because warts and all. That that's what that's what That's
Speaker 3:what tools That's all about.
Speaker 1:That's what people out there are actually experiencing. So I'm gonna show them how you actually fix the fix those mistakes.
Speaker 3:Mhmm. Mhmm.
Speaker 1:But it very quickly, cartoonishly, like, no. We got well, he's like, I don't know how to edit it. Just put it up as is. And and, like, that's what that's what kinda Just put it
Speaker 3:blows up. Okay.
Speaker 1:Yeah. What was was the initial thought, but he would know he would know how to make a TV show. That's pretty good too.
Speaker 3:How does he rope Al back into it? Maybe maybe he just go like, his show's not the same without you, goes and actually asks him to come back.
Speaker 1:May so okay. So with my my route rather than the recording 10 episodes
Speaker 3:Right.
Speaker 1:After the first couple, because he keeps messing up
Speaker 3:Mhmm. Mhmm.
Speaker 1:He begs Al to come help him with his little with his little, TikTok show.
Speaker 3:His little home improvement projects. Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 1:And Al's like, fine. I honestly, I don't have anything else either.
Speaker 3:But he Al was very good in investments, so he's living very comfortably in his retirement.
Speaker 1:Sure. Does
Speaker 3:your house look like this? Oh, I did all this. I did. Oh, alright.
Speaker 1:Really? On on the salary I gave you? I mean, it is a home improvement show.
Speaker 3:Charlie Day. Oh,
Speaker 1:sure. Charlie Day. There you go. There you
Speaker 3:go. Al
Speaker 1:Moreland. Yeah.
Speaker 3:I don't think so, Tim.
Speaker 1:Oh, him and John Cena, that's kind of a really fun matchup.
Speaker 3:So he he gets Al back. He's like, I need your help. Yeah. I'm no. No.
Speaker 3:No. No. Wait. Maybe it's not that. Maybe he's like, he has okay.
Speaker 3:My big project. This is the big one that
Speaker 1:Well, he has he has a couple. And because he's filming it all just in the one take and there's too many mess ups and the people in the comments keep making fun of him. Doesn't like that. Yeah. He wants to have a real real home improvement show to show that, like, he's really doing it.
Speaker 1:So he he begs Al to come back just for one. Just just help me with with this one. I I need to redo I need to rebuild the shed. Mhmm. Please just help me build the shed.
Speaker 1:And he comes and he does it, and it's Al comes off great and Tim comes off Woo. Like, even more of a cartoon as as he, like, falls through the roof they built and stuff. Like like, Al's like, that doesn't have any any beams in it.
Speaker 3:It's a load bearing.
Speaker 1:It's literally just shingles holding up shingles. And he's like, no. It's fine. Yeah. See, it's sturdy.
Speaker 1:Yeah. And I don't think so, Tim. And that goes that goes it explodes. Yeah. That goes super viral.
Speaker 1:Mhmm. What do you what do you think of that?
Speaker 3:Yes. I think that's all great. Now now as far as a ninety minute, a hundred minute comedy is concerned, we now need to create an antagonist. Him getting fired and having to figure himself out as funny as it is, but eventually, we need to to get reach. There needs to be a threat or needs to be an obstacle in this.
Speaker 3:It could be let's see. Some some ideas here. Maybe he calls his streaming thing Tool Time, and the network is like, we own Tool Time. You have to call it something else, which eventually he could call home improvement as, like, the the the answer to that. But we need some sort of like, in the first Wayne's world, it is go ahead.
Speaker 1:I I get what you're saying.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 1:In in the first Wayne's world, it's it's another company. Right. I don't I I kinda don't want to have, like, like, like, an external antagonist like that. I feel like the arc of this is Tim is a man lost. Mhmm.
Speaker 1:He's the world the like like right. His his world has moved on without him and he's trying to catch up. And the more he tries to to do that, the more he tries to to grab a hold of it and hold on, the more it wrestles itself away, the less he can hold on. Yeah. And that's right.
Speaker 1:It's why he has to keep going to his name. Wilson. Wilson. He has to keep going to Wilson because he he just he and cause he's home all the time. He feels estranged from his wife Mhmm.
Speaker 1:From his kid. These kids are growing up. They're hell, they're they are grown up. Like like he when did they learn all the lessons? Mhmm.
Speaker 1:They learned them from the Internet, dad, while you were off on your TV show.
Speaker 3:Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 3:Right. Because then him versus himself. Yeah. He's the antagonist to his own world.
Speaker 1:Yeah. And so so then through trying to make this trying to make a show again, I I I think we need to come up with some examples. But, basically, he kind of finds a way to reconnect to these things in a new way that isn't forcing it to be like it was.
Speaker 3:Right. Yeah. Yeah. And and having individual goal, like individually winning back his three sons Mhmm. More or less proving not that his wife is going to be a nag No.
Speaker 3:Or against him, but just proving his worth to himself as much as the people important in his life Yeah. So that the the success is not a new network show. It is not defeating the enemy. Yeah. It's it's
Speaker 1:There can be a false antagonist Yeah. In that there is someone Tim compares himself to.
Speaker 3:Mhmm. Sure.
Speaker 1:Like, why why can't I be that guy? Why why does why does this why does that guy who is not as good as me Yeah. Keep succeeding?
Speaker 3:Yes. I I kinda have an idea who that might we might be able to do.
Speaker 1:And, ultimately, it's it's about Tim letting go of that comparison.
Speaker 3:Yeah. How about here's I here's the character he's going up against is another buffoonish, prat falling, accident prone home repair person who's who's basically, like, the the famous person on on streaming or on on the social, like TikTok or whatnot
Speaker 1:that
Speaker 3:is known for, like, falling down and and screwing up. It it's it's it's Johnny Knoxville. Johnny Knoxville is his is, like, another home improvement loser who's made his bread and butter failing, and it's all contrived. Creates like, you know what I'm saying? Like, he's he's someone who, like, I'm gonna climb this ladder.
Speaker 3:Oh, no. I fell off. And, like, he he fakes his injure his his mistakes and his goofs. That's his that's his, what he does online is, is fake and contrive accidents. I don't know.
Speaker 3:I don't know if I love this. I'm just throwing it out there as as a Yeah.
Speaker 1:It's not hooking me. And I I don't wanna just say, nah. Just because.
Speaker 3:Right.
Speaker 1:My my initial idea is did you see did you watch Vice Principals?
Speaker 3:Yeah. With oh, yeah. Yeah. Danny McBride and Charlie Day. Right?
Speaker 1:No. No. No. That was Danny McBride and
Speaker 3:Walter Goggins.
Speaker 1:Walter Goggins.
Speaker 3:Walter Goggins. Yeah.
Speaker 1:However, Danny McBride's character's ex wife, her new husband, or maybe they're just boy her new her new significant other Mhmm. Is played by Shy Wiggum.
Speaker 3:Mhmm. Mhmm.
Speaker 1:And he is the nicest guy. And Danny McBride hates him. Hates him somewhat. And he hates him because this guy basically took quote unquote took his life and is is basically with his wife and raising his kid.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 1:And that's how he sees it. But Shy Wiggum, he just loves him. He's like, yeah. Hey, man. Good seeing you.
Speaker 1:One one one a beer. Hey, how's it going? Mhmm. It goes to all the same games. Get out of here.
Speaker 1:Oh, okay. I I I get it. I I actually feel like that's almost it that that's a it's a flip of a trope Mhmm. That I've seen in in a number of shows over the last decade or so at this point. So maybe that's old.
Speaker 1:I I don't think it's been done so much that that wouldn't be fun. Mhmm. I'm imagining a character it can be that Johnny Knoxville character completely unaware unaware of Tim entirely like like that. It it's it's not about, I'm gonna beat you. You'll never beat me.
Speaker 1:Right. It's a, I'm gonna beat you. I'm like, who are you? I'm just living my life guy. Yeah.
Speaker 1:And he's like, no. You are my nemesis. Oh, okay. Yeah. And and it's and it ultimately, it always comes back to Tim.
Speaker 1:Tim is truly competing with himself. Mhmm. He need that that that's the that's the the plot. That's the the the story.
Speaker 3:That's the obstacle that he's trying to overcome is it's man versus himself.
Speaker 1:And and my thought for for ultimately at the end, I my and my hesitation for his nemesis being what he's going into
Speaker 3:Mhmm.
Speaker 1:Is at the end, he fully embraces that, yeah, I'm the guy I'm the guy who falls through. I'm the guy who, measures measures once cuts twice.
Speaker 3:Glue my head to a table. Yeah.
Speaker 1:I'm that guy. And like you he he ends up going to like essentially VidCon and he ends up going to these conventions and and becoming a part of this larger social media community. Mhmm. Mhmm. Yeah.
Speaker 1:That was that was my thought of where that would go. Yeah. And if he has somebody who's already in that space doing his thing Mhmm. That might my initial thought is that undermines his growth in into acceptance of this new life.
Speaker 3:Yeah. I agree. Here's an alternative pitch for another character. I love the idea of someone who does not have any animosity towards him
Speaker 1:at all.
Speaker 3:Tim getting his show canceled or whatnot or if they're like if first, it's like
Speaker 1:Actually, I think as far as animosity goes, think if anyone has animosity the TV show did a good job of never truly going there, but if Al was the one with the So so even even through that, it Tim ultimately wins him over too. Mhmm. It's like, Tim, you are the biggest nincompoop I know. And
Speaker 3:And my best friend.
Speaker 1:And my yeah. And my best friend.
Speaker 3:Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I to to the idea of another character who has no animosity towards him, what's whatsoever is perhaps whoever took his time slot, who's like like like, oh, I hate you.
Speaker 3:You took my time slot.
Speaker 1:Like Sure.
Speaker 3:Hey, Tim. Oh my gosh. You look great. Have you been working out with the retirement suits you? Don't talk
Speaker 2:to me like that.
Speaker 3:I hate you. How's your go how's your ratings? Pretty good, actually. Yeah. We had, honestly, like, carried over a lot of your old watch, like, viewership.
Speaker 3:Like, I have new viewers. I don't need you. They're younger and cooler. Like me.
Speaker 2:That's really cool. That's really great. What what's what's your channel? I'll follow. No.
Speaker 3:I don't I don't need your follow. What's your what's your hashtag? I could I'm gonna I'm gonna just My hash what? Oh, that's you're just sounds like a really nice guy. Yeah.
Speaker 3:Yeah. The the idea of Wilson giving in the
Speaker 2:yeah.
Speaker 3:I think that's it. It doesn't need to be this epic quest. It keeping it small and letting him yeah. There there's there's probably even just what we pitched here, the bones of a a really good family film. Mhmm.
Speaker 3:People would probably be annoyed by it because what the hell are we doing? But there there are films of this that know not to reach further than their grasp to be like, no.
Speaker 1:This is just it.
Speaker 3:We're staying true to the the sweetness. You know, like, Miller and Lord would be the kind of people who could pull off this because they, like, pulled off 21 Jump Street.
Speaker 1:But they would somehow match this with, like, some sort of, like, intergalactic plot. Like and and but but it would still feel small and homey.
Speaker 3:Yeah. Yeah. And and we don't want
Speaker 1:an intergalactic be those guys. Yeah.
Speaker 3:And then in the end, he he just continues his series with Al and and doesn't even bother
Speaker 2:he doesn't wanna go back to network.
Speaker 3:Nope. I like the notion of
Speaker 1:Like, he you know, like, we could even have a schmaltzy scene where someone comes up and says, hey, Tim. We we're booking. We got a new new time slot kind of thing.
Speaker 3:Yeah. We could put you on a streaming. Mhmm. I don't need that. I got everything I need right here.
Speaker 1:Well, if anything, I weirdly, I I feel like someone coming up with a streaming deal will be like, okay. Maybe maybe we'll talk about that because it would be for the new thing he's doing.
Speaker 3:Right.
Speaker 1:Whereas the old network comes back. Maybe. No.
Speaker 3:Maybe that's maybe that's it of like, he turns it down like being all humble and then he like, he feels good about it and he like goes and tells Jill, and she's like, are you out of your mind? You call him back right now. I cannot have you sitting around this house all the time. But what about my show? Go do your show for Netflix.
Speaker 3:Jesus Christ. Okay. Okay. And then hard cut to the
Speaker 1:Yeah. That's not bad. And then the And then the credits have a whole bunch of
Speaker 3:Clips from the show.
Speaker 1:Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 3:You know what time it is? It's tool time. Yeah. Well, choosing home improvement, I know you'd like pointed at TGIF, like that's I know we just
Speaker 1:I thought I thought home improvement was gonna be like, I don't know how to do a movie. Let's go to TGIF. Yeah. Because I feel like we haven't even taken a break yet. No.
Speaker 3:We're fine.
Speaker 1:So we're gonna we're gonna end up pitching another at this point. Mhmm. My thought the reason I had initially thought Family Matters, I didn't have a plot. Mhmm. But I was like, there's a bit more there just because of Urkel.
Speaker 3:Yeah. Oh my god. Now, like, how outlandish are we talking here? Steve Urkel made, like
Speaker 1:We can we
Speaker 3:can buddy loves doc doc.
Speaker 1:We can discuss that. It can it could go all the way to the pest or the the not the jerk.
Speaker 3:What what was the what
Speaker 1:was the Martin Short one?
Speaker 3:The where he's the Clifford. No.
Speaker 1:Clifford? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 3:Where he's the little kid. Why can't you just be a normal little boy? Like, Steve Urkel made a robot version of himself. Yeah. Like, this show
Speaker 1:That's why I was thinking it it could go anywhere from just a nice family
Speaker 3:Matters.
Speaker 1:Sitcom kind of thing all the way to something outlandish and crazy.
Speaker 3:Yeah. Family Matters was an original TJF. Yes. Perfect Strangers was just a Yes. Their prime
Speaker 1:It was it was before TGIF existed. Right.
Speaker 3:Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And then no. Wait.
Speaker 3:Wait. Hold on a second.
Speaker 1:I thought TGIF was all family shows.
Speaker 3:It was Full House. Family Matters was second. Mhmm. Perfect Strangers was third. I did not carried over
Speaker 1:from, you know, the believe you. I did not remember Perfect Strangers being a TGIF show. I know Step by Step
Speaker 3:was one. That Step by Step replaced Perfect Strangers at some point. But Okay. But it became one of the t j f shows for sure. But the fourth one was not going places.
Speaker 3:That was the second one. The first one was a spin off of Growing Pains called Just the 10 of Us, which was about coach Lubbock. This is off the top of the dome here, folks. Wow. Coach Lubbock had eight eight daughters, and and they lived in the house and he had he it was just the 10 of them, and it was a big family.
Speaker 3:And he was a basketball coach for a high school or college. I don't that much.
Speaker 1:I do not remember that one at all.
Speaker 3:Oh.
Speaker 1:My That just reminds me of seventh heaven and sergeant dad.
Speaker 3:The Major dad.
Speaker 1:Major dad. Thank you. Wrong rank. I apologize. I apologize.
Speaker 3:Yeah. I just remembered the theme song to just the 10 of us. Doing it the best I can.
Speaker 1:And then No. That that was growing pains.
Speaker 3:No. No. Growing pains is No.
Speaker 1:That's
Speaker 3:Whatever happened to predictability, The milkman,
Speaker 1:the paperboard, eating tea.
Speaker 3:Pains. Yeah. Good. No. Growing pains.
Speaker 3:I'm sorry. Full that was full house. I apologize. I'm very excited right now. You are you are very
Speaker 1:excited
Speaker 3:again. Growing pains. Can I remember it without looking
Speaker 1:it up? It was the one
Speaker 3:You weren't at the best I can
Speaker 1:Because because Alan Thicke sang that. He wrote and sang that.
Speaker 3:Oh, god. I wanna remember without looking it up, but that's not the growing pains thing. Why do I remember? I filed away every theme song in my head. Groin Pain's theme song.
Speaker 3:Here we go. If we get
Speaker 1:To the Internet.
Speaker 3:To the Internet. You know what? I'm not even gonna look up the song. I'm gonna look up the lyrics, and that will remind me what the tune is. As long
Speaker 2:as we got each other.
Speaker 1:There you go.
Speaker 3:We got each other. We're sitting right in our hand. And yes, Alan Thick sang that. Oh my god. Is anyone entertained right
Speaker 1:now? Everyone is entertained constantly.
Speaker 3:Family matters. Okay. Family matters is some sort of cinematic thing. I I'm gonna go okay. We're with home improvement, I think the key to making that work is John Steen is awesome comedy and the sweetness of what that can be.
Speaker 2:Mhmm.
Speaker 3:I think you maintain the heart and and a lesson learned. You don't Mhmm. You don't take it to an intergalactic care. Yeah. It's it is it maintains.
Speaker 3:Think with Full House, because of how insane that show got with Steve Virchow Family
Speaker 1:Matters.
Speaker 3:Family Matters. What did I
Speaker 1:say? Full House.
Speaker 3:Family Matters got so crazy with robots and alternate identities.
Speaker 1:Mhmm.
Speaker 3:And site like super science. Yep. I say we lean into that. This is a Lord and Miller movie.
Speaker 1:Okay.
Speaker 3:This is an Akiva Shafer directed insane movie.
Speaker 1:Okay.
Speaker 3:That it seemingly can start with, like, this this would be my pitch. This is my pitch. It's not gonna be. It is. Okay.
Speaker 3:This is my pitch.
Speaker 1:We're skipping right past per the first paragraph Yeah. Of what this paper is gonna be about.
Speaker 3:Right to it. We don't need a goddamn opening statement, which is what this is, and I am deleting it right now. Carl Winslow is a sergeant for the Chicago police force and lives a very normal existence. And Steve Urkel moves in next door, and and just things start going so insane, and Carl's the only acknowledging the insanity of it.
Speaker 1:You're gonna what about Bob him?
Speaker 3:Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And everyone else is just so accepting. It's all it's Carl is like Mhmm.
Speaker 3:Like and Laura. Yeah. Laura is like, I don't like Steve Urkel. And Carl's like, right. Because of the robot.
Speaker 3:Right? And Laura's like, no.
Speaker 1:Because he's a nerd.
Speaker 3:Yeah. Because he's a nerd and he annoys me.
Speaker 2:Right. Right. But what about
Speaker 3:the serum that makes him cool? Isn't that crazy? Dad, he just he I don't like how much he flirts with me and the whole cheese thing.
Speaker 2:It really bothers me. Right. Right. Right.
Speaker 3:But what about the time machine? Like like, just drives him crazy, and and I'm really speed pitching this. No. Yeah. Well, especially because I thought this was gonna be the whole second half of
Speaker 1:our show and not the prelude to the intermission.
Speaker 3:Well, so so, yeah, Steve moves in and drives Carl. Like, things get, like, escalatingly weird. Like, it goes from, like, Twin Peaks odd to literally, like, a spaceship in the backyard. And Carl's, like,
Speaker 2:the only one like, why am
Speaker 3:I the like, I feel like a crazy person.
Speaker 1:He's taking crazy pills.
Speaker 3:Yeah. And and everyone else sort of just brushes it off, and it reaches a point where Steve needs Carl's help to save the world. Like, you I like like, they're like, a worldwide threat courtesy of Steve Urkel's super science. So so you want a Rick and Morty Yes.
Speaker 1:Family matters. Yes.
Speaker 3:And which is great. Turning Urkel into Rick Yeah.
Speaker 1:And Carl Winslow into Morty.
Speaker 3:Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 3:That's exactly what I wanna do. That's exactly what I wanna do. And which is which is great because, principal Vell Johnson is the principal in Rick and Morty. Yeah. Full Rick and Morty.
Speaker 3:Like, I want and and even I'll even go so far as, can I do that? Like, Steve is a supervillain. Like, he ultimately is the bad guy here, and Carl is a is the hero cop that will save the day. Like, first, he convinces Carl first, he convinces Carl to help him. Carl, you gotta help me.
Speaker 3:And then Carl is roped into
Speaker 1:this insanity. Okay. Right. So the first half and because because Erkel makes excellent points. He's like, look.
Speaker 1:Look at this this the weird I don't know if we wanna do the council of but I'll just use it for the as the example. Look at this big terrible organization. You need to help me stop them. And it's like, oh, go find. Fine, Steve, and then you never come over to my house again.
Speaker 3:Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 1:Whatever. Whatever, Carl. Best friend. Best pal of mine.
Speaker 3:Oh, Carl. I love you.
Speaker 1:And then they do that and then Steve is like, great. We have control, Carl. I have all the control right here. I have it. We can go home and I will date your daughter and don't worry because I will control everything.
Speaker 1:And Carl's like, what? No. That's not that's not what we agreed to.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 1:And like no. But it is Carl and like like he even have him pointed like several points throughout where it's like he he was being very forward with his plan this whole time.
Speaker 3:But he never lied about it.
Speaker 1:It was just couched in such a way.
Speaker 3:Oh, it's like in community when Matt Walsh played the guard, like, the groundskeeper for the trampoline. And Yes. And then he turns out to be, like, super racist. And he's like and then they flash back to all the times he was over correctly and just ignored it. Kinda like that.
Speaker 1:Kinda. Yeah.
Speaker 3:Steve, like, just said
Speaker 1:not racist. Yeah.
Speaker 3:Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 1:Of course.
Speaker 3:Yeah. Deny you that. And then and then Carl and Steve have to, like, sci fi fight each other in the end.
Speaker 1:Here's my only problem. Yeah. And I'm sure there's a way to to plug it in there is I want the solution or the or the thing that that saves it ultimately Mhmm. To be family.
Speaker 3:Oh, yeah.
Speaker 1:Because Mhmm. Family matters. Awe. Like like, partially for the saccharin sweet awe, but also I'd like when titles
Speaker 3:Pay off. Do that. How okay. So let's let's back up. Steve Urkel moves in next door.
Speaker 3:In the original episode that Steve Urkel was in, he was just an offhand character. Like, he was just a remarked upon character where Mhmm. Carl had ruined something for Laura where she didn't have a date. Mhmm. For he had, like, somehow ruined her homecoming date or something.
Speaker 3:And he went to the kid next door and said, oh, I got this Steve kid to come take you. And she's like, Steve Urkel? The kid eats mice. He is a super geek. He's a nerd.
Speaker 3:He eats mice, dad. And then this dork in suspenders and glasses shows up, and and and and Carl's like, oh, no. He's a good kid. He's a good kid. And and Steve's like, got any cheese?
Speaker 3:Because he eats mice. And and he was a one off character that then they brought back.
Speaker 1:Mhmm.
Speaker 3:And then they brought back and then made a main character, and then he was the star of the show.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 3:So having this start with status quo, Carl Winslow is like Murtaugh. Right? He's got a family life.
Speaker 1:Is there is there a plot that we could insert that gets just just sidelined t boned and sidelined by Erkel showing up?
Speaker 3:Oh, like like the movie promises to
Speaker 1:be one thing? Gonna be one thing and then Erkel hits it.
Speaker 3:It shows up and it's not that movie at all anymore. That's kinda funny. That, like, that, Carl's investigating some, like, suit like, drug bust gang thing. He's like, this will make me lieutenant. I'm ready for this.
Speaker 3:Oh, I messed up Laura Laura's date. I'm I mean, oh, a new kid moved in next door. Could you come talk
Speaker 1:to I have a late I I have to do I have to work a double do cops work doubles? I know they work late, but it's
Speaker 3:Double the shit.
Speaker 1:Yeah. Can I'll just I'll just patch this really quick with with the neighbor kid.
Speaker 3:Yeah. And then and then it begins to unravel Yeah. To the point where And
Speaker 1:it on I I think it'd be fun if some of the really early unraveling is after that kinda goes wrong, Carl goes to have a heart to heart with with Steve Mhmm. To break it to him that Laura doesn't like him. Like like, whatever you did on that date, it was very wrong, and I'm sorry there won't be a second. Right. And it goes it goes just wrong enough that he's like, let me speak to your parents.
Speaker 3:Yeah. Steve's like
Speaker 1:Steve has like an excuse or something, but he doesn't have any parents.
Speaker 3:There's no any parents. This kid is this kid's a a
Speaker 1:fugitive super size. It becomes a a movie version of there's a song by Tom Waits called What's He Building in There. Mhmm. And that's that that I want
Speaker 3:What's he's building?
Speaker 1:It's not really a musical like a like a musical song that that it could, like, be in the movie,
Speaker 3:but It's in the trailer.
Speaker 1:Oh, there
Speaker 3:you go. That's the
Speaker 1:trailer stuff. Building in there. Yeah.
Speaker 3:Oh my god. Yeah. The the unraveling so that it builds and builds and builds too. Like, you could sell this movie like, the marketing of this movie could be this reimagining modern reimagination modern reimagining of Family Matters. Isn't this funny?
Speaker 3:Give it that 21 Jump Street kinda look to it. Hint at the robot Steve Urkel in the trailer, and and hint at some of, like, the goofier stuff from the show. But when you actually go to see the show the movie, when it escalates to the point where the world is at risk and, like, Steve is, like, a supervillain. Like, I done correctly, I the the joy of something like that. Most recently Sure.
Speaker 3:Looney Tunes, the the day that Earth blew up.
Speaker 1:Yeah. There you go.
Speaker 3:Escalated to a point where I don't think the trailers showed just how good this movie is and where it went.
Speaker 1:Mhmm.
Speaker 3:It's that level of thing of, like,
Speaker 2:that sorry. I need to say this out.
Speaker 3:That's a movie that didn't need to be that good, and it was. Remember we were talking there go. A couple days ago about movies that are better than they deserve to be Yeah. Or had any
Speaker 1:right to that punch above their weight.
Speaker 3:And Looney Tunes, the day of the Earth Bloop is one of those where it's like, wow, movie. You didn't have to do it this well.
Speaker 1:So anyway We still would have liked it.
Speaker 3:Yes. Yeah. Watching a family matters movie that escalates escalates escalates to the point of, like, they're going here? What? And then, yeah, there's a freaking Star Wars battle sequence to end this.
Speaker 3:I don't know what it but, like, robot Karl like, in a freaking, like, mech suit and versus Steve. And then, yeah, then Steve is destroyed or defeated or reverted back to brain brainless little nerd. And then the Danimal moment is Carl busting that drug ring that he initially was gonna do anyway.
Speaker 1:Okay. Sure.
Speaker 3:Bringing it all the way back to
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 3:But your to your point of, like, the family needs to matter. Oh, man. I this might be too meta, but I'd love Judy to be, like, hugely important to the final finale of this.
Speaker 1:So I was I don't remember the show well enough. Was Judy there to begin with?
Speaker 3:She was. Okay. And then eventually, she just disappeared.
Speaker 1:Okay. I was thinking it was the reverse.
Speaker 3:Nope. Judy Judy was one of the it was so
Speaker 1:So actually, that plays really easily into what I was gonna suggest is through this whole thing, through Urkel insisting it has this is for the best. He changes the entire family. He changes the entire neighbor, the entire town.
Speaker 3:He's literally changing reality. Judy is like Yes. Blinked out of existence.
Speaker 1:Yes.
Speaker 3:Oh, yes. Oh, man. Yeah. Yeah. Because
Speaker 1:And and every step the way, he's framing it in such a way that Carl may not be the one who does it Mhmm. But he's he he makes it sound and feel like Carl gave permission to do it.
Speaker 3:Yeah. Like some sort of exasperated comments. Like, Carl, you you asked for this. Yeah. Because it so Carl, Harriet was his wife.
Speaker 3:Eddie. Eddie was the older son. Laura was the middle. Judy was the youngest.
Speaker 1:And then his mother-in-law.
Speaker 3:No. No.
Speaker 1:Didn't she live
Speaker 3:with It was his mother.
Speaker 1:Oh, that was his mother.
Speaker 3:Estelle was his mother.
Speaker 1:Oh.
Speaker 3:And then there was the little Richie was the little was the nephew because Harriet's sister
Speaker 1:was dad. He was the addict kid?
Speaker 3:No. He was there from the beginning.
Speaker 1:He was also there
Speaker 3:from He was also there from the beginning. I can't remember what aunt aunt Rachel. Aunt Rachel was the the aunt who lived with them, and then Steve Urkel was eventually added. So it was like Waldo Faldo was like Eddie's friend who was added to the show. He was eventually a main character too.
Speaker 3:And then
Speaker 1:That's because as we all know, family matters. And by family, we mean all the people you've had along the way.
Speaker 3:Hey. You know what?
Speaker 1:The main main family, unimportant. Only the people who visit.
Speaker 3:After nine episodes and 200 after nine seasons and 215 episodes, you gotta make some changes. Right? But at some point, Judy disappeared. So working that into the plot that Steve is literally rewriting reality so that Judy vanishes is awesome. I love that.
Speaker 3:Like, that's that's the threat he poses on reality.
Speaker 1:Sure. Wow. And I and I we he can say it several times throughout, but I think when Carl manages to save everything and everything goes back, he gets he gets Steve to put everything back to the way it was. Mhmm. Steve doesn't even remember this.
Speaker 1:And Carl's like, it says something and never all this, you're you're never gonna do or like he explains, everything you just did.
Speaker 3:Yeah. Undo it. And Steve goes, did I do that? There's something dumb like that. Oh my god.
Speaker 3:Yeah. A Family Matters movie. I'm in, man. I am in.
Speaker 1:Weirdly, still feel like that one's not as flushed out
Speaker 3:No.
Speaker 1:As home improvement.
Speaker 3:Because it's so But
Speaker 1:there but there that's definitely a pitch. That's a that's a pitch and a half there.
Speaker 3:I think it's a full pitch. Well, let's take a break here.
Speaker 1:Yeah. It's a pitch
Speaker 3:and a half. Yeah.
Speaker 1:That's more than a pitch.
Speaker 3:It's The it's the Home improvement was the pitch. Yeah. You're saying the half pitch was family management?
Speaker 1:No. I'm saying home improvement's a full that's more than a pitch. Yeah. That's fully fleshed out. We we did the we did the work.
Speaker 3:We've done two and a half pitches?
Speaker 1:I'm Yes.
Speaker 3:Okay. Good.
Speaker 1:I'm saying family matters was a pitch and then another half a pitch on there. It's not a full thick This is garbage content
Speaker 3:writers not mathematicians. Alright. Okay. We're gonna take a quick break here and we're gonna come back with some more sitcom movie. I don't know what to call this.
Speaker 3:We'll figure that out. We'll be right back after these messages from six five media. Okay. So here we are. We've so home improvement and family matters right now.
Speaker 3:I know initially said t j f and maybe that's what we call this episode. It's just TGIF, then people are gonna be like, home improvement wasn't a TGIF show. But I'm thinking of other sitcoms of that era that well, let's see. Boy Meets World had a spin off a new series called Girl Meets World. Right?
Speaker 3:Roseanne had a sequel series Full House, had Fuller House. Family Matters
Speaker 1:That 70 show?
Speaker 3:Yep. That became That 90 show. Right? What is another like, Sabrina the Teenage Witch became the Chilling Adventures of Sabrina.
Speaker 1:I don't know if I I have a movie for it, but Friends.
Speaker 3:You don't know if you have a movie concept for Friends?
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 3:I don't know if I've wanted to do Friends. Like, we're we're we're mining nostalgia here, and Friends comes with a that's almost like that's like the biggest like, that's one of the bigger asks of, like, come up with a Friends movie, recast it, and all that. And I I was like, then we gotta also do living single and then rip that off. Wonder Years had a reboot recently, or they're doing it
Speaker 1:from Yep.
Speaker 3:The, I believe, the black perspective, which is pretty cool. Yep. Dinosaurs. Doom doom doom doom doom doom doom. Hanging with mister Cooper.
Speaker 3:That was another one.
Speaker 1:It was.
Speaker 3:What about step by step? Because step by step was just Brady Bunch.
Speaker 1:It was Yeah.
Speaker 3:It was the nineties reimagining of Brady Bunch.
Speaker 1:I I wouldn't know what to
Speaker 3:To do with. What to do there. Yeah.
Speaker 1:I I think we we hit we hit the ones that I felt were most fertile.
Speaker 3:Yeah. I'm just trying to think of more of that era. The Drew Carey show. Oh, sure. Frazier has recently had a revival.
Speaker 1:Mhmm.
Speaker 3:Will and grace have has ever had a revival. Two Girls, a Guy, and a Pizza Place.
Speaker 1:And and I know you're you're very much playing the the and and are gonna have a better memory Mhmm. For the sitcoms. Melrose Place, I don't think that got a reboot. No. Or no.
Speaker 1:No. It did. I think it did, but it it did not go well. It did not last long.
Speaker 3:Well okay. Like but I'm just thinking ABC. Those are all ABC shows
Speaker 2:Mhmm.
Speaker 3:Off the top of them. Let's see. So if we move to, like, NBC so you're not wrong, like, Friends, Seinfeld, Frasier, ER. Like, we're talking must see TV era. Mhmm.
Speaker 3:Third Rock from the Sun.
Speaker 2:Mhmm.
Speaker 1:Was First Prince NBC
Speaker 2:or CBS?
Speaker 1:I thought that was NBC.
Speaker 3:I think so. I I can I can picture the peacock in the corner? News radio. Could news radio Did
Speaker 1:did Scrubs last too long into the modern era to do a nostalgia bait movie of it?
Speaker 3:Well, boy, see, I actually give give me a chance to talk about Scrubs for a second here, which is one my favorite shows of all time. I often cite it as my desert island show. The ninth and last season of Scrubs happened too soon because they immediately did it. And they it was a new series. And if it had been separated by even five years, that show would have lasted more than a season.
Speaker 3:It lasted half a season because people were mad because it literally opens with blowing up the old hospital. They had a few people who are willing to do the first half. Like, Zach Brass
Speaker 1:To to do a transition?
Speaker 3:To do yeah. To, like, hand it off and, like, in the finale of what I consider the true finale
Speaker 1:of
Speaker 3:Scrubs is one of the all time greatest finales, talk about tugging at the heartstrings, to follow that up with such, like, a slap to the face series immediately after. Understandably, people were like, but I I think that final season in a vacuum is good. And if it had been separated by some time, people would have been on board for it.
Speaker 1:Okay.
Speaker 3:And I I don't know. That doesn't necessarily say, like, how do you do Scrubs the movie? I I think if you Scrubs the movies, it would would be so much as, like, oh, no. They did a Hawaiian wedding in the show with the janitor. Yeah.
Speaker 3:I don't I don't I don't see any Sure. To do with Scrubs.
Speaker 1:I think Futurama, same thing. Futurama's from that period, but it lasted long enough. Had enough re re re ups. Mhmm. And a couple of them were movies that were then just chopped into episodes anyway.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 3:To your point though, Scrubs was 02/2001 to 02/2010. So, yeah, it's out of the nineties. If if the
Speaker 1:I I did say well, I'd early February, I think, would still count.
Speaker 3:Oh, okay. I see. Alright. I was going the other direction because you said I think your demand was twenty five to thirty years.
Speaker 1:It it was, which normally, right, '95 to February was kind of the era I was thinking. But I'd go I'd go as early as, like, the as 1990 or possibly as late as 02/2005.
Speaker 3:Would you go further back to, the eighties?
Speaker 1:I I I think it depends on what it is.
Speaker 3:Mhmm. Because, like, for example, family ties. Now family tie now we're in, like, eighties television. I was I wasn't consuming like I did nineties television, but I'm at least aware of family ties being this liberal
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 3:Husband and wife who have a frick freaking Ben Shapiro as their son.
Speaker 1:Yeah. Oh, I see I see how that that that could have modern sensibilities.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:I actually feel like a lot of the eighties stuff I I love it, but I feel like it's outside of the mood and feel I was going for.
Speaker 3:Mhmm. Mhmm.
Speaker 1:Right? Because Knight Rider is a thing of the the eighties, and that could make a really cool movie. Yeah. But that is not what I'm not what I'm aiming
Speaker 3:for. Yeah. Yeah. Because even another show from late eighties into the nineties to the February was Saved by the Bell, which lasted
Speaker 1:I was gonna that that was another one I I was gonna bring up.
Speaker 3:Which had a revival recently.
Speaker 1:Oh, did it? Yeah.
Speaker 3:The the amazing thing about Saved by the Bell is that original cast was four seasons and is the definitive cast. The Saved by the Bell: The New Class was eight seasons on its own and 200 plus more episodes than than that original run because NBC knew what they had, they just keep going they just kept going. But, you know, the the the thing to do with you know what? Let's talk about Saved
Speaker 1:Okay. Here we go.
Speaker 3:The the thing to do with Saved the Bell is acknowledge that Zach Morris is a psychopath, a sociopath. Right?
Speaker 1:No. I well, maybe. Because that I think that's sort of the fun contemporary looking back critique on it.
Speaker 3:Yeah. It's that. Please look that up if you guys aren't aware of Zach Morris' trash. It's a very fun YouTube series.
Speaker 1:And the nostalgia bait movie revival that I asked for kind of did that. They did it lovingly, right, with Brady Bunch and 21. Starsky and Hutch. Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 1:But they did point at them. So were you to do were we to do a Saved by the Bell? Somewhere in there should be an acknowledgment of if anything, that would be the arc is it's established that Zach Morris is trash. Mhmm. And Zach Morris becomes aware of this and doesn't want to be trash.
Speaker 1:Mhmm. So now he has to fix it.
Speaker 3:Fix it. How many times can you time out?
Speaker 1:It's funny because as you were as you were saying, I'm like, what would I do given carte blanche with the concept of Saved by the concept of Saved by the Bell, the just a a totally alternate universe version where he freezes time, a a character who is like Zach Morris, freezes time and dies with time frozen.
Speaker 3:Oh my god.
Speaker 1:And now the fallout of that has to be dealt with. Like and then it's a matter of is it more would it be more fun to have people slowly
Speaker 3:and then
Speaker 1:dealing with this world that is frozen and they're trying to unfreeze it? Or is it like a certain size area?
Speaker 3:It's like a wand revision scenario. Yeah.
Speaker 2:Is it
Speaker 1:like that?
Speaker 3:Yeah. There's a globe.
Speaker 1:So then the outside world is like, what happened to the this town frozen in time?
Speaker 3:Bayside frozen in time. One body found. Bottle Beast's bonboy dead.
Speaker 1:That was sort of, like, just very quickly a kernel that popped into my head as as we started down the Saved by the Bell path.
Speaker 3:Well, you know what? I'm gonna keep playing in this. Okay. I'm keep playing this right now. Zach Morris being able to freeze time and have everything go his way.
Speaker 3:Like, in so much like, the way the show did the timeouts, and he didn't do it all the time, but he did enough that it was a trope of the show. He would turn to the audience and be like, oh, look at this pickle that I'm in. I'm Using the timeout not to speak to the audience, but to time like, do you have a freeze time so that everything goes his way? Like, watch me hit hit a hundred free throws in a row. Oh.
Speaker 3:Time out. Boom. Time in. Right? And that he's constantly just using the time out to be perfect.
Speaker 1:I think it'd be funny if just at some point well, it would happen throughout the whole movie, and at one point, it would eventually point to it so then you could watch the rest and see. Every time there's a picture of Zach Morris
Speaker 2:Mhmm.
Speaker 1:His hands are almost making the tea every time.
Speaker 3:So he could get the get the pose perfect.
Speaker 1:But but, like, it shows that in real like, everyone sees this kid whose hands are just kind of always
Speaker 3:Near tea.
Speaker 1:Yeah. Suggesting he's using it all the time.
Speaker 3:That that's what I'm suggesting. Yeah. That he it it would verge into intentionally so time loop type territory movies. So, like, your happy death days, crown hulk Day scenario work. How?
Speaker 3:Hold on with me here. He's he's been perfecting his reality by by freezing time and there's actually a Ducktales episode about this, but that's fine. And someone else can do it. Like, maybe Oh, no. I got
Speaker 2:it. Oh, I got it. Oh.
Speaker 3:Tori shows up. Remember Tori? I remember Tori. And she was never susceptible to Zach's charms in the first place. In fact, she's one of the only characters in the history of that show in its four seasons to acknowledge what's the deal with this guy.
Speaker 3:So she shows up, he times out, and she sees it. Like, she is unaffected by the time out. Right? Okay. Even going so far as, like, first, like, observing it and not doing it and then calling him out on it, and then, like, she can do it.
Speaker 3:Like, she starts tying out how to do it? And starts, like, destroying him. Yeah. Tori Tori is the hero of of the Saved by the Bell movie.
Speaker 1:So unlike unlike our home improvement or family matters where we're like really trying to, even if it's very tongue in cheek, honor these shows.
Speaker 3:Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 1:This one is us. We're doing this is our Winnie the Pooh Blood and Honey to sing by the bell.
Speaker 3:Complete deconstruction. Yes. Yeah. Tori shows up in her motorcycle jacket, and she's like, he hits on her, and she's like, ew? Yeah.
Speaker 3:And then slowly starts witnessing. Maybe she
Speaker 2:I don't know.
Speaker 3:What do
Speaker 1:think? I I wanna go further.
Speaker 3:Oh, yeah.
Speaker 1:She in in the second act of her needing to find help Mhmm. Or or find advice and information, she finds the kids that were erased from Yes.
Speaker 3:Good Morning Miss Bliss. Yes. The the lost original series. Yeah.
Speaker 1:Because Zach only kept the people who, like, would go along that he liked Dude, along.
Speaker 3:Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 1:Along with it. So like But unlike the Twilight Zone kid Mhmm. He couldn't just he couldn't just time out them out of existence. Yeah. So he had to just set things up so that miss miss
Speaker 3:Miss Bliss. Miss Bliss Yeah.
Speaker 1:Had to go somewhere else, and the other kids had to go somewhere
Speaker 3:And liked
Speaker 1:and he liked Mikey. Oh, Mikey knew about the power, but he was like, Zach, you're you're you're messing things up. And he's like, I can't have this Mikey. And he got rid of him. Yep.
Speaker 1:That's when he got AC Slater because he looked enough like him. Yeah. But like a better, musclier version.
Speaker 3:And and Nikki was the proto Jesse. So Nikki's out of the equation too. So Nikki, Mikey, and, like, miss Bliss are the three, like Yeah. Living in the fringes. Yes.
Speaker 3:Do they only exist in the timeout?
Speaker 1:They're they're in another town.
Speaker 3:Oh. Oh, actually, if they're if they're just in the time out They exist. They are trapped.
Speaker 1:Could be amazing.
Speaker 3:They are trapped in time out. Oh, no. He put them in time out. Oh. Because miss Bliss
Speaker 1:Oh, no.
Speaker 2:So miss Bliss
Speaker 1:We could even go through the show and find out that that's how Zach actually solved a bunch of the problems is he put people in time. Like the movie star that came along and then ghosted Kelly. Kelly. Yeah. And and she was crushed, and that's why she went back to Zach.
Speaker 1:It's because he put that dude In time. In time.
Speaker 3:Like, it's like the dude in the cage from Daredevil that Kingpin puts down there. Let me out. I'll never tell anyone I promise. Because not only that, good morning miss Bliss took place in Indiana. Oh.
Speaker 3:Saved by the bell takes place in California. Ah. So, like, there's even there's even, like, something that, like Yeah.
Speaker 1:So he's Maybe time out is more powerful. Maybe he is the kid from twilight zone.
Speaker 3:And so so Tori, like, catches on. Maybe he puts her in time out. Do you like the idea that it immediately doesn't work on her or that, like, she
Speaker 1:Yeah. I do like the because when he starts doing it, I I also, does it does it happen to the whole world or does it just happen locally to Bayside?
Speaker 3:I don't know. The the show would suggest it's the whole world. The show doesn't give us the information. No. So we can decide.
Speaker 3:Does he just freeze?
Speaker 1:Because the thing is, Tori could experience these frozen moments when she's when she's not on screen.
Speaker 3:Oh, like she's experienced it her whole life and she came to town like Buffy the Vampire Slayer looking for a hellmouth?
Speaker 1:Well, she didn't necessarily come looking for it, but circumstances excuse me, burping. Circumstances have have led her to to to this this source. I Right? Like, it didn't matter how much the people in stranger things wanted to run away.
Speaker 3:Mhmm.
Speaker 1:They circumstances purposeful or otherwise kept leading them back here to finally deal with Vecna.
Speaker 3:I'm I'm split on this because I like the notion that she just
Speaker 1:Spoiler for for a couple of Strange things.
Speaker 3:Very light spoiler there. Yeah. I like the notion of Tory just she just showed up in town because her family moved to Bayside. Mhmm. And she's just this is the high school that's in her district.
Speaker 3:And then she just basically stumbles upon this reality bending psychopath, sociopath.
Speaker 1:Oh, I just realized it could be a it could be a dark parallel to Peter Pan.
Speaker 3:Okay. Yeah.
Speaker 1:Like Tori is Wendy. Yeah. Zach is Peter. And initially initially, rather than than being upset that she is immune to his powers, he takes that as a good sign. Like, someone who can understand, someone who can be on these adventures with me.
Speaker 1:Mhmm. But then, no. Like, just because she has this in common with you. Also, just because you still have control, like, that'd be the thing. As she starts learning how to resist it Mhmm.
Speaker 1:He would not be happy with
Speaker 2:that.
Speaker 1:No. No. And as she exerts more and more agency, he would be less and less cool.
Speaker 3:I think I'm gonna leave you in time out. No. No. And then then the world goes blank Mhmm. And she's alone in this in the time out reality.
Speaker 3:And and stuck there, that's when she finds Mikey, Nikki, and Bliss.
Speaker 2:Yeah. It's like, it I don't I don't
Speaker 1:want to I I feel I'd for whatever reason, I want that to be a quest. She needs to go find them.
Speaker 3:Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Sure.
Speaker 3:Sure. Yeah. Something within the and I don't want it to turn into the upside down. Becomes, like, stale reality. Yeah.
Speaker 3:There's a show from this era that was a kid's show in the afternoon called Eerie Indiana.
Speaker 1:Mhmm.
Speaker 3:Just sort of like kids Twin Peaks. Yeah. There the one episode I've seen that I have held forever is he's from Arizona. He wants to do daylight savings time, and they don't do daylight savings time in Erie, Indiana. Or he ref I can't remember his exact but he doesn't do it and then gets stuck an hour behind an hour behind reality.
Speaker 3:Uh-huh. And so so it's not like suddenly the upside down. It's just like an empty world. Yeah. So her getting blipped into blipped into, time out.
Speaker 1:If anything, I I feel like it should be a little different.
Speaker 3:Yes. That's
Speaker 1:a Did you see Langelier's?
Speaker 3:Yes.
Speaker 1:It should be it should be like that. Absolutely. Because when when Zach times out, suddenly everyone blips in. They're all stopped stopped like mannequins.
Speaker 3:Mhmm.
Speaker 1:When he time is back in, everyone sort of so maybe there's there's these blurs that go that go by Tori.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 1:And that that's people moving through time. That's reality continuing. But yeah. So so all of these tangible things only pop in to the time out existence when Zach actually pauses reality.
Speaker 3:Do okay. So now the the lore of the show as it exists is it went from Indiana to California with no explanation. Mhmm. So we could honor that and figure out some way to get from Indiana to to California courtesy of Zach's abilities, or we just say Mickey Mikey, Nikki, and Bliss are in the California time out.
Speaker 1:I don't mind nodding to it. I I think the first hints, the first things that Tory starts finding out to find out about any of this stuff is she talks to Screech and Lisa.
Speaker 3:Lisa. Yeah.
Speaker 1:Because both of them were there.
Speaker 3:That's right.
Speaker 1:And they'll they have they have vague memories of Indiana. Like like or or bring up bring up something like maybe Tory. I I don't know how she would stumble upon this information. Accidentally Slip. Yeah.
Speaker 3:No. That begs the question. They don't know that their minds have been altered or that time has been altered. Right? Screech,
Speaker 1:Lisa doesn't know? What if Screech does? What if Screech is Zach's Renfield? Right?
Speaker 3:Totally. Yes.
Speaker 1:And he's he's afraid, but he's all also like, but I love Zach.
Speaker 3:Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. He's totally aware of it. And that's that could be like a a reveal, like, when Tory's, like, unraveling things that that Screech sort of like Screeches his henchmen.
Speaker 3:Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 1:Right. Be because Screech benefits greatly from from kissing up to Zach.
Speaker 3:Yeah. Absolutely. He's he's my best friend.
Speaker 1:I I can build robots because of him.
Speaker 3:Dancing robots.
Speaker 1:Exactly. Yeah.
Speaker 3:Oh, man. Slater's gonna kick Zach's ass when when Tory can finally He's
Speaker 1:gonna try.
Speaker 3:He's gonna try. You can try. I'm gonna kick your ass, Preppy.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 3:Remember that's his
Speaker 1:that's Yeah.
Speaker 3:Yeah. He's like, you can try.
Speaker 2:Time out. Slater
Speaker 3:Mhmm. Getting humiliated. You think I willingly had this haircut? This all makes sense now. Oh my god.
Speaker 1:Oh, the malt shop. I forgot about the
Speaker 3:malt shop. Max. Yeah. With the magician. Yep.
Speaker 3:Max the magician.
Speaker 1:Is there is would it be worth turning him into, like, a a
Speaker 3:Like a wizard.
Speaker 1:Amazing Zoltar character that gave Zack these powers?
Speaker 3:Oh. Because okay. Well, the No. Therein lies the quest No. I'm I'm hearing your no, and I'm agreeing with it.
Speaker 3:But do we wanna explain what Zach is? And then, therefore, that's how like, that gives us information for the finale like, how we conclude this, the finale. If we can determine, is Zach an imp? Is he a demon? Is he puck?
Speaker 3:Like, has he existed through all of his time and space? Is he did he happen upon these powers? I'm asking you, but I'm asking aloud.
Speaker 1:I like the parallel to Peter Pan Mhmm. Where we can come up with some stuff. Yeah. But there is no, like, oh, he is this classification of creature.
Speaker 3:Sure.
Speaker 1:Sure. No. He is a being that can do these amazing things. This is what he has been witnessed to do, but no one really knows the extent of his ability.
Speaker 3:How about
Speaker 1:He he basically fulfills his wins.
Speaker 3:Yeah. How about he first did it in Indiana and got bored there and then moved to California and started in a new city. So when he time times out, it can be the whole world, but he chose to move to a new location because he got bored with Indiana.
Speaker 1:Yeah. Sure.
Speaker 3:And then Nikki, Mikey, and Bliss have been trying to hunt him, like, find him in the time out.
Speaker 1:Maybe. I I feel like like that's all I feel like those are characters that are just trying to survive because it's it's been years. It's been Yeah. Well, I guess not too many. It's been six years?
Speaker 3:A few years. So Blip and Mist Bliss was eighth grade
Speaker 1:Mhmm.
Speaker 3:And then or ninth grade, and then Saved by the Bell is ten, eleven, 12. And then they had one season at the beach Mhmm. Because they realized how successful the show was.
Speaker 1:But we we can actually do a number of different things if Zach has the ability to stop and manipulate time Mhmm. More time could have passed.
Speaker 3:Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. He he
Speaker 1:did a bunch of we don't have to worry about ages Mhmm. For the most part. Right? Like, we could we could make Bliss, Mikey, and and what what's her name?
Speaker 3:Nikki.
Speaker 1:Nikki. Much, much older. They were aging in the time out.
Speaker 3:They were frozen and left behind in 1987. Yeah. Because that's when the show aired.
Speaker 1:It could be it could be something like that.
Speaker 3:And and the Saved by the Bell as it is now.
Speaker 1:Well, right Because right. So if we're giving him this, not only can he can he manipulate time, he can manipulate space if he basically made Indiana, California. Mhmm.
Speaker 3:What was that school called? It wouldn't have been called Bayside. Bayside High.
Speaker 2:It was?
Speaker 3:Oh. In Indiana, was still Bayside. In miss Bliss miss Bliss's miss Bliss's Yeah. School.
Speaker 1:I don't
Speaker 3:know what it was. Like oh, John f Kennedy. John f Kennedy junior high in Indianapolis, Indiana. Thanks, Google. Nah.
Speaker 3:I'm not gonna get Google credit. Google sucks. I looked up Wikipedia.
Speaker 1:Alright. I don't have a fun thing there. But, yeah, he turned it into Bayside. Mhmm. I'd I'm I'm I'm still reveling in his powers.
Speaker 3:No, please.
Speaker 1:If they could have been left in '87, our show could be set in the nineties or it might be alluded to that it is longer. Yeah. Right? Or or right? Even if it's now.
Speaker 1:Wait. So you're telling me Zach and Screech and Lisa and all these people have been in high school since 1991? Yeah.
Speaker 3:Yeah. He loves it here. Yeah. Well well, who would answer? Yeah.
Speaker 3:Yeah. That's that's Mikey. Like, yeah. He loves it. I'm a I'm a grizzled old man now.
Speaker 1:Yeah. It could be.
Speaker 3:He's, like, 30. But, like yeah. So Zach, not if they're like, what is Who is he? We don't know. There may be never there's no way of knowing, but we know we need to destroy him.
Speaker 1:Mhmm.
Speaker 3:Wholesome home improvement
Speaker 1:I'm sure. Followed
Speaker 3:by Rick and Morty family matters, followed by this amazing Twilight Zone Doctor who saved by the bell. I am so happy right now. I love this show, Jim.
Speaker 1:And it resolves with Tory defeating Zach Yeah. By you know what, Zach? I think it's time to put you
Speaker 3:in Oh my god.
Speaker 1:In that way, he's defeated, but not in such a way that we can't easily have a sequel.
Speaker 3:A new class, if you will? Yeah.
Speaker 1:Yeah. Oh, yes. Yes. There you go.
Speaker 3:Long fuse on that one.
Speaker 1:Yeah. That is a little little longer. Mostly because I was gonna try going for a a because he was saved by the bell Yeah. On.
Speaker 3:Oh my god.
Speaker 1:Oh, the dirt. That that's that ends up being how maybe that's how Tori
Speaker 3:Realizes the the
Speaker 1:So something like that. Ringing in bell. Like she hears a bell and and and it always Yeah. Catches her attention.
Speaker 3:This is very doctor Who ish. Yeah. Yeah. Something like that. Yeah.
Speaker 3:Like she comes out of it, that ringing in her ears.
Speaker 1:Oh, okay.
Speaker 3:Like maybe
Speaker 1:I was gonna say the the ringing always lets her know when time is freezing.
Speaker 3:Oh, yeah. I'm I'm saying that we're saying the same thing. Sure. That initially she it's not like the very first time it happens, she's unaffected by it. Mhmm.
Speaker 3:But she is just slightly aware of it.
Speaker 1:Sure.
Speaker 3:So, like, when the when Zach's about to do something like, you know, like, you know, watch me watch me, you know, sink this full court shot. And then the applause and people are freaking out, and Tory has a almost like a a moment of like, was that ringing? Oh, he made it. Wow. Good for Zach.
Speaker 3:Mhmm. Like, just slowly, that ringing bell
Speaker 1:Sure. Yeah.
Speaker 3:Is what's triggering her to realize something's off. Yeah. Oh my god. Tori on her motorcycle. She's coming in, having fooled by Zach Morris, and he's freaking
Speaker 1:And he he thought he was luring just the a a new a new toy
Speaker 3:Yeah. In Oh, that just a new toy showed up.
Speaker 1:Right?
Speaker 3:Yeah. Not not that he drew her to him.
Speaker 1:Maybe I he might see reality as Do it well the the he he he his view of reality might tell him that, oh, clearly, is what I wanted.
Speaker 3:Well, actually, you had said some yeah. I see what you're saying. I I obviously drew here because I want it. Well, that suggests has this high school we'd sort of alluded to this. Has he been existing in this high school with these people constantly in a loop for as long as he wants because he's manipulated time and space?
Speaker 3:Or has he just has he been sorry. Is this a pocket dimension that exists in our reality? I kinda Like a WandaVision dome like we
Speaker 1:I like that more. Okay. It it it grounds it more in our world for, like, in in the next town over from where you are Mhmm. Kinda thing.
Speaker 3:So he keeps people
Speaker 1:As as opposed to but I I also like the illusion to Peter Pan.
Speaker 2:Oh. Oh. No. No. No.
Speaker 2:Yes.
Speaker 3:You're yes. You're right. The allusion to Peter Pan, it being a pocket reality. Zach Morris's trash points this out all the time. Zach has a girl that's in the episode that he does something to and and then, like, wins over in the end.
Speaker 3:And then the narration always says, and she was never seen again, most likely because she killed herself.
Speaker 1:So Tory broke So there's more people caught in the time out than
Speaker 3:Or he sucked them of their life or whatever. But so Tory entering the equation is just another girl of the week Yeah. For Zach. So, yeah, him having done this in a loop for whoever knows how long. Go ahead.
Speaker 1:I'm just we're making Tori the main character, a character who was in the show for, like, two episodes? Three? Like, six?
Speaker 3:Oh, it was was
Speaker 1:it but either either way, it's it would what would be a good example?
Speaker 3:10. She was in ten episodes. Which is pretty good for a for a special guest star. Well, okay. Sorry.
Speaker 3:Don't lose your thought. We'll come back to me. You go. You go. We'll come back to Tory in a second.
Speaker 1:I'm I'm just thinking about how, like, the it would be, like, making
Speaker 3:Gunther, the main character of the Friends movie?
Speaker 1:Yes. There you go. Yes. It's a you would oh my god. That's exactly that.
Speaker 1:And now I don't know what we do, but now I want to approach it that way.
Speaker 3:Okay. So Saved by the Bell had had extended its original order. They filmed the finale, and then NBC wanted more episodes. They said, so fill it out. And so they they ordered 10 more episodes, but Tiffany Amber Theisson had already left to do Melrose Place, funny
Speaker 1:enough. And
Speaker 3:Jesse Brinkley had already gone off. She hadn't done Showgirls yet, but she was on her So those two were unavailable to film 10 more episodes. Gotcha. So they created the Tori character. They cast her.
Speaker 3:Mhmm. They cast Lark. What's her name? No. No.
Speaker 3:It's Joanna Joanna something. Good job. They cast her. Oh, god. They cast her, and she did the 10 episodes.
Speaker 3:And then they aired the finale they had already filmed, which she has not did.
Speaker 1:Okay.
Speaker 3:So Tori existed for 10 episodes and then vanished without a trace. And the only reference to her after that through the college years, through the new class, through the Hawaiian wedding. The only reference to her was in the most recent revival Saved by the Bell series, which has Jesse Brinkley and Marta Lopez. Someone else appeared on that. Someone says, oh, new kids come and go all the time.
Speaker 3:Remember Tori? And that's it. That's it. That's the only offhanded reference to So, anyway, having, yeah, having having Tori be the main character tickles me to no end because I she when she was in those 10 episodes, I was like, man, I like Tori. She's cool.
Speaker 3:She's she's got leather jacket. Yep. She rides a motorcycle. Clearly, Like high school kids do. Like high school kids do.
Speaker 3:How how do they defeat him, I know you said they suggest that Zach goes to time out, but, like
Speaker 1:I mean, right, if we're going that big and you had said in the beginning, you had said Tori kind of masters this power herself. Mhmm. They have a time fight.
Speaker 3:Yeah. Hell, yeah. It just keeps I don't know what you can freezing, unfinished.
Speaker 1:They keep blinking in and out.
Speaker 3:They keep, like, if it's going haywire even so much so that it's jumping through time, like like
Speaker 1:So, like, you had mentioned time loops. I don't I guess if they can if they can manipulate time and space, it would be possible to to do that.
Speaker 3:I don't I'm not giving I meant I was liking it to time loop energy in so much as Zach has perfected his life because
Speaker 2:Mhmm.
Speaker 3:Like a time loop movie where you can relive that. He's just timing out so that he can
Speaker 1:Until he can get it right.
Speaker 3:Or just so that he he adjusts everything so it's right. Yeah. Yeah. So not not a time loop. But I like the idea that they time fight.
Speaker 3:It's like freeze, unfreeze, free like, in that in that so much is, like, ace like, Slater's going to punch on the in this final confrontation. And every time it, like, unfreezes, the punch goes forward a little bit and freezes again, and the punch goes forward and freezes even again. And eventually, at one point, Zach does get hit by Slater. Oh,
Speaker 1:I was gonna say something different. I was gonna say Slater actually dies in the way he dies. Like, it could even be in that fight. He's, like, he's on Tory's side. He's like, we're gonna defeat you, you monster.
Speaker 1:And And he goes to punch. Exactly. And there there's there's a quick freeze moment and suddenly Slater is fused with one of Screech's robots. Oh, shit. And it falls falls over dead.
Speaker 3:And then Tory beats Zach at his own psychotic game. Mhmm. Hell, yeah. Saved by the bell. Okay.
Speaker 3:We need one more. We need one
Speaker 2:to do four to
Speaker 1:to to
Speaker 3:truly I know, again, Saved by the Bell wasn't teased yet, but to get the Uh-huh. To we there has to be one more we we can do this with. Right?
Speaker 1:What else what else was there in the nineties?
Speaker 3:I said
Speaker 1:I mean, there was the entire Disney Afternoon. I know some of those have been rebooted.
Speaker 3:Oh, it's like rescue rangers, gummy bears Yeah. Dark winged duck.
Speaker 1:Which is weird because jumping to this saved by the coming down from this saved by the bells feels anticlimactic no matter what.
Speaker 3:Well, we don't have to do a fourth one. We don't have to do fourth one. We could we could
Speaker 1:Well, let let let's at least spitball some here.
Speaker 3:I honestly thought save Saved by the Bell is gonna be an offhanded tangent, and then we jump into another one.
Speaker 1:That's what I thought home improvement was gonna be.
Speaker 3:Okay. Just trying to think of other classic nineties sitcoms. What let's see. I said Blossom or Blossom. Woah.
Speaker 3:Woah. Joey says, woah. King of Queens was 98.
Speaker 1:I like him. I like him six. I don't know if we're gonna do it tonight or not. I'm just gonna keep doing just like not quite right blossom quotes.
Speaker 3:Third rock from the sun. Aliens hiding on earth disguised as humans. Right? I referenced Living Single.
Speaker 1:So with third Rock from the Sun, would we try to do that original cast in some way or would we do kind of a soft sequel where a second wave is sent? Because I don't remember how the show ended. I don't remember if they were constantly sending reports back to their home planet.
Speaker 3:To great thing that played by William Shatner.
Speaker 1:Oh, there you go. So has have they have they finally sent an invasion force?
Speaker 2:Well, like, they ended
Speaker 3:they erase Jane Curtin's memory so that she doesn't remember any of them, and then they returned. They left Earth.
Speaker 1:Oh, they left? Yeah. Oh, that's sad.
Speaker 3:So then yeah. Yeah. They John Lithgow, and they they left. Yeah. Like, they they finished their mission, and they returned to to whatever planet
Speaker 1:they're And their mission was to basically
Speaker 3:Study humans.
Speaker 1:Yeah. Yeah. And so now do they return to invade?
Speaker 3:I don't know. They returning to returning to invade after all their research? I don't know. I don't know if that's the
Speaker 1:because aliens are always hostile.
Speaker 3:Yeah. That's cool. That's I I wanna do Alfred. Although that's a lady
Speaker 1:reminding me. There was a Coneheads movie.
Speaker 2:I forgot that
Speaker 3:there was a Coneheads movie. We are from France.
Speaker 1:Jane was was in that.
Speaker 3:She's right.
Speaker 1:She's the the the mother Conehead. The wife Conehead.
Speaker 3:I I had referenced Living Single before, and there's a wide belief
Speaker 1:Do you think that's how third rock was originally pitched? Was it was meant to be a Coneheads TV show?
Speaker 3:Oh, maybe. That's a that's an interesting idea.
Speaker 1:Yeah. Just tangential thought.
Speaker 3:Yeah. I referenced Living Single, and you'd reference Friends. And there's it's widely believed by many that Friends was a whitewashed, like, rebranding of Living Single. Okay. Like, oh, look at all these pair the similarities.
Speaker 3:It's this. This is it's the same show, but they they whitewashed it. Now I I'm not gonna say that's the case. I don't know how much that holds water because sitcoms are, like, super standard, especially in the nineties. Mhmm.
Speaker 3:Like, they were templates that you could fill out and perfected greatly by mister Chuck Lorre, who knows how to who knows how to make a make a sitcom.
Speaker 1:Right. How many how many honeymooners knockoffs were there?
Speaker 3:Right. Right.
Speaker 1:Even just in the nineties?
Speaker 3:Having having because of what we've done with the two other ones, now Home Improvement, but is that if Living Single existed in a reality where they they these characters, sort of it's like a Black Mirror episode, see Friends, the show or see Friends in reality, not the show. They see Ross and Rachel, and they're like Yeah. That's us. Like, they literally have replicated their lives
Speaker 1:in the
Speaker 3:world, and then it becomes a, you know, we must destroy them. It's probably that
Speaker 1:A doppelganger movie?
Speaker 3:Yeah. It's a doppelganger movie. It's us. Jordan Peele presents living singles. Living single.
Speaker 3:So it yeah.
Speaker 1:Yeah. It it literally it's us.
Speaker 3:Yeah. Yeah. Also, as we've said from time to time and with certain topics on the show, we're probably not the right people to to pitch such an idea. I'm just gonna put it out there.
Speaker 1:We're we're lucky we got away with Family Matters. No.
Speaker 3:No. That's yeah. That was That's Full House. That was Full House. How's the Family Matters?
Speaker 3:I know this one. I know this one. I know the original theme song was Louis Armstrong for the pilot. Milkman and the paper. No.
Speaker 1:That's They're all just full. Every time a new show came on, you just yelled the Full House theme song over whatever was actually playing.
Speaker 3:What? Where did it go? It goes I don't I don't wanna look it up again. It's in my head. Is this entertaining?
Speaker 3:And I mean by.
Speaker 1:There you go.
Speaker 3:Yep. Big little Yeah. I can see it. Family
Speaker 1:down the stairs a little bit, looking at the camera.
Speaker 3:Smile. Steve trying to get in the door. They're shutting it on me. Like, coming
Speaker 1:in from the kitchen, looking at the camera.
Speaker 3:See, this is the disappointment I have that modern shows don't have theme songs. Why did I file all these away?
Speaker 2:And now it's such a it's like I
Speaker 1:just thought of a show.
Speaker 3:What's that?
Speaker 1:Charles in charge.
Speaker 3:Oh, now that's eighties. Is it? That is eighties.
Speaker 1:Yeah. Charles in charge. That was nineties.
Speaker 3:No. No. No. Charles in charge is definitely a a an eighties sitcom. Joni loves charge.
Speaker 3:Charles in charge series was
Speaker 1:I don't believe you.
Speaker 3:1984.
Speaker 1:Really?
Speaker 3:Yep. Five seasons. No. Yes. Yep.
Speaker 3:He's looking it up, folks.
Speaker 1:I got my sound on there.
Speaker 3:1984 to 1990. So, yes, it was a nineties show.
Speaker 1:In my in I guess it's just because I watched it in the nineties.
Speaker 3:I don't know. I I I kinda think we might have
Speaker 1:Did we top out at Saved By
Speaker 3:The Bell? Out at Saved By The
Speaker 1:Bell. That might be okay.
Speaker 3:Because if we're gonna if we are going to get a fourth in here, you you are virgin into some, you know, cartoon territory. Like Mhmm. The fact that Gargoyles has not been redone in animation or live action by Disney is the wildest thing to me.
Speaker 2:Why?
Speaker 3:Like, that shows
Speaker 1:It was perfect.
Speaker 3:It was perfect. That the concept of the show, the effects that could be pulled off on television now or in a film, like and, like, the multiculturalism of that show. Keith David voiced Goliath,
Speaker 1:Alyssa. And that's all
Speaker 2:you need.
Speaker 3:No. I'm just she was she was multiracial, and, like, they dealt with there's an episode where where Bronx accidentally shoots the gun and and shoots Alyssa. Yeah.
Speaker 1:Because the gargoyles don't understand guns.
Speaker 3:They don't. He was just thought it was cool because he saw a cowboy movie.
Speaker 1:Did you know that and and it uses that character's name, Xanatos.
Speaker 3:Mhmm.
Speaker 1:There's a thing. I I don't know if it I don't know if it's like full actual philosophy, but I know it's like a t at the very least a TV trope named after him called Xanathos Gambit. Xanathos Gambit. Okay. It's literally where any outcome will benefit the character.
Speaker 3:Woah. That's amazing.
Speaker 1:That's known as Names. A Zanatos Gambit.
Speaker 3:And is it named after him?
Speaker 1:Yes. Wow. See? Because in the show
Speaker 3:No matter
Speaker 1:show no matter what, it was always he it no matter what happened, it was because he had planned it.
Speaker 3:Yeah. It was all part of the plan. Every time anything went, it was all part of the plan. Yeah.
Speaker 1:And I I think it's just a trope. It's not like philosophical thing. It's it's a
Speaker 3:Okay.
Speaker 2:Well, I we're sort
Speaker 3:of just like, uh-uh. Uh-uh. But I I I really do think we we maxed out on Saved by the Bell. And now we've meandered the last fifteen minutes trying to come up with literally anything else. Mhmm.
Speaker 3:There's so so what I wanna say here is you listening well, you sent the demand, Jim, so that's not entirely fair. Are you satisfied with what we've done
Speaker 1:here? I I think I mostly am. And I actually, I think the way I want the Max to to work in Saved by the Bell is Max is also aware that he is trapped Mhmm. In this because he one once made a shake a a malt that Zach loved, and that's why he is now in this forever.
Speaker 3:This trapped area.
Speaker 1:And that's actually where Tory gets at first. That that's where she actually starts getting real answers. Mhmm. And he sends her, you need to go talk to miss Bliss. Yeah.
Speaker 3:There we go. Someone who would know.
Speaker 1:Yeah. Yeah. Because she first gets these hints from Screech and Lisa who don't wanna talk about it. But then she goes to Max who seems to know a bit more because he actually like oh, oh, maybe she also learns from him just a little bit on how to manipulate it. And that's another thing Zach actually likes is, oh, Max can manipulate time a little.
Speaker 1:That's why he keeps doing all these magic He's
Speaker 3:a magician.
Speaker 1:But he doesn't do so much that it threatens Zach.
Speaker 3:Yeah. He's just a goofy little sideshow freak.
Speaker 1:He's terrified. Yeah. And but that's what he makes himself to make himself non threatening to Zach.
Speaker 3:Yeah. He and you know what? Max eventually disappeared from the show, so perhaps Zach offs him, like Oh, yeah. To raise the stakes to show just what Zach is capable of, like, offing Max in front of Tory Yeah. Before she's banished to the time out or whatnot.
Speaker 3:Sure.
Speaker 1:Yeah. Something like, oh, it it's just escalating thing. Like, how did you figure out how to do this, Tory? You know, I just it's I it's a thing I can do. Mhmm.
Speaker 1:We'll see about that.
Speaker 3:We'll see about that. And then he find, like, he
Speaker 1:he he to punish her, he then gets rid of Max. Yeah. Because he's like, I figured I know who told you.
Speaker 3:I know. It's like, you can't lie to me. Yeah. This is my world.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 3:You're just you're just you're just attending it.
Speaker 1:Yeah. You're just attending it. Yeah.
Speaker 3:Well, I I
Speaker 1:There you go.
Speaker 3:I will, throw it to the listeners. What did you think of this demand today? What's
Speaker 1:Would you watch any
Speaker 3:of these? Would you watch any of these? So much so, is this some finale fodder here? Would you watch any of these? What sitcom of this nineties ish era that Jim proposed here could you imagine doing some sort of cinematic version of?
Speaker 3:Mhmm. It it you know, what you let us know. You can
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Speaker 2:that does it for this episode. This was fun. You you had you thank you for doing this. This is great.
Speaker 1:Good.
Speaker 3:I had no idea what to expect.
Speaker 1:But Rick, because we've been we've we've had this plan to follow the algorithm and to follow releases. Yeah. And so we didn't really have many openings, but this had occurred to me a few months ago and I was I was just waiting for for an opening and and and And here
Speaker 3:it was. Well, we'll be back again soon with another one of your demands, not one of ours. No. One of your demands to challenge ourselves. And, yeah, that's it.
Speaker 3:I'm TC.
Speaker 1:I'm Jim.
Speaker 3:And, time out. Okay. Now that Jim is frozen, I think all of you need to write in and and and convince me to have Jim do the opening without him without him knowing about it. It would be so thrown off. It would be crazy.
Speaker 2:Time
Speaker 1:in. And that's that's the episode.
Speaker 3:So Yeah. And that's how we end it.
Speaker 1:I'm I'm not even gonna wonder why you're laughing nefariously.
Speaker 3:That's just between me and the listeners. Wink.