The Canadian Charity Law Podcast

This episode offers an essential guide to selecting a charity lawyer, highlighting the importance of legal expertise for Canadian nonprofits and charities.

It emphasizes finding a lawyer with experience in Canadian charity law, transparent and predictable fees, significant number of online 5 star reviews, and strong, timely communication.

This episode is jointly sponsored by B.I.G. Charity Law Group Professional Corporation, a Charity Law Firm exclusively serving charity and not-for-profit clients in Toronto, Ontario and across Canada with registration and governance, and B.I.G. Charity Accounts Group, a bookkeeping firm serving Canadian charities in Ontario with all their financial and tax filing needs.

https://www.charitylawgroup.ca/
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DJ
Producer
Dov Goldberg, J.D.
Dov Goldberg is a manager partner at B.I.G. Charity Law Group Professional Corporation, a Charity Law Firm Providing Services Exclusively to Charities Across Canada

What is The Canadian Charity Law Podcast ?

Exploring the ins-and-outs of Canadian Charity Law in a way that can be understood by the layperson, including Charity Registration, Not-for-Profit Incorporation, Charity Governance, Charity Fundraising, Tax Receipting, and much more!

David:

Alright. So maybe you're thinking about starting a charity in Canada.

Sara:

Oh, wow.

David:

That's amazing. You're ready to really make a difference out there. But Yeah.

Sara:

Hold on

David:

just a second. Before you dive in head first into fundraising and, like

Sara:

Right.

David:

Changing the world, there's a really crucial step that you cannot afford to skip. Yeah. Getting some rock solid legal advice.

Sara:

Oh.

David:

We're gonna deep dive into an excerpt from BIG Charity Law Group's essential guide to choosing a charity lawyer, just to make sure you understand why.

Sara:

Yeah. You know what's funny?

David:

Yeah.

Sara:

People often think starting a charity is all about passion and good intentions.

David:

Right.

Sara:

And while those are definitely vital, it's equally important to remember that charities operate within a legal framework. And in in Canada, that framework can be surprisingly complex.

David:

Totally. So let's get specific. This guide really hammers home the point that hiring a lawyer

Sara:

Yes.

David:

Who specializes in charity law isn't just, like, a good idea. It's essential. It is. They even compare it to building a house. You wouldn't attempt that without an architect and an engineer.

Sara:

Right? I know. Precisely, a charity lawyer is like your blueprint for success

David:

Okay.

Sara:

Ensuring you build your organization on a solid legal foundation and avoid potentially costly mistakes.

David:

Yeah.

Sara:

You wouldn't believe some of the situations I've seen where charities ran into trouble simply because they weren't aware

David:

Oh, really?

Sara:

Of the intricacies of Canadian Charity Law. Wow. One organization I worked with had been operating for years without realizing they were actually in violation

David:

Oh, god.

Sara:

To certain CRA regulations

David:

Wow.

Sara:

Because their activities had gradually expanded beyond their original charitable purpose. Oh. It was a real wake up call for them, and,

David:

That's a cautionary tale for sure. Yeah. It makes you realize how crucial it is to have expert guidance right from the get go.

Sara:

Absolutely.

David:

So let's break down exactly why a charity lawyer is so essential. What are some of the key things they bring to the table?

Sara:

Well, first and foremost, they possess in-depth knowledge of Canadian Charity Law. And trust me, this isn't just any area of law.

David:

No.

Sara:

We're talking about a complex web of CRA regulations requirements

David:

Mhmm.

Sara:

And precedents that can make your head spin.

David:

And it's not just about knowing the rules. Sure. It's about understanding how they apply to your specific organization.

Sara:

You hit the nail on the head. Every charity is unique

David:

Yeah.

Sara:

With its own mission structure and activities.

David:

Right.

Sara:

A charity lawyer helps you navigate the legal landscape and develop customized strategies to achieve your specific goals while staying on the right side of the law.

David:

So it's like having a legal tailor who creates a bespoke suit for your charity.

Sara:

That's a great analogy.

David:

Okay. Cool.

Sara:

They take all the measurements, consider your unique style, and make sure everything fits perfectly.

David:

Now one area that I know can be particularly tricky for charities is taxes.

Sara:

Oh, absolutely. Obtaining and maintaining tax exempt status is vital for any charity's financial well-being. It allows them to operate more efficiently and attract donors who want their contributions to have the maximum impact, but the process can be quite complex. Yeah. It involves demonstrating that your organization's purpose and activities align with the CRA's definition of charitable and adhering to strict rules.

David:

Mhmm.

Sara:

Regarding financial management and reporting, a charity lawyer can guide you through the entire process

David:

Okay.

Sara:

Ensuring you meet all the requirements and avoid common pitfalls.

David:

And what about things like disbursement quotas?

Sara:

Yes.

David:

I've heard that can be a bit of a minefield for foundations in particular.

Sara:

Indeed. Disbursement quotas refer to the minimum amount that a foundation must distribute each year to maintain its charitable status.

David:

Okay.

Sara:

The percentage varies depending on whether it's a public or private foundation, and there are specific rules about what qualifies as a qualifying disbursement.

David:

Right.

Sara:

For example, simply accumulating assets or investing funds without actively distributing them for charitable purposes could result in penalties. A charity lawyer can help you understand these requirements, develop a sound spending policy, and ensure you're meeting your obligations.

David:

Okay. So we've established that having a charity lawyer is crucial.

Sara:

Yes.

David:

Now let's say you're ready to start looking for 1. What are some key things to consider? What advice does this guide offer?

Sara:

This guide has a really helpful section on choosing the right lawyer.

David:

Yeah.

Sara:

1st and foremost, prioritize experience and expertise.

David:

Okay.

Sara:

You wouldn't go to a general practitioner for brain surgery. Right?

David:

Right.

Sara:

You want someone with a proven track record in charity law, ideally with experience working with organizations similar to yours. Yeah. For example, if you're setting up a private foundation, you'd want a lawyer who's familiar with the specific regulations and challenges that foundations face.

David:

Makes sense. And I imagine client testimonials and reviews can be helpful in gauging a lawyer's reputation and track record.

Sara:

Absolutely. Don't be shy about asking for references or checking online reviews. Hearing about other organizations' experiences can give you valuable insights into a lawyer's communication style, responsiveness, and ability to deliver results.

David:

Now what about the dreaded topic of legal fees? Yeah. This guide actually emphasizes the importance of transparency when it comes to costs.

Sara:

Yes. Transparency is essential.

David:

Okay.

Sara:

You want a lawyer who's upfront about their fees and billing practices. Look for a firm that offers a clear and concise fee structure, whether it's an hourly rate, a flat fee for specific services, or a retainer arrangement.

David:

Right.

Sara:

They should also clearly explain any potential additional costs that might arise such as disbursements for court filings or expert witness fees. And speaking of unexpected costs, one of the things this guide stresses is the importance of understanding the long term implications of your legal decisions.

David:

Oh, interesting. So it's not just about addressing immediate needs, but also thinking strategically about the future.

Sara:

Exactly. For instance, choosing a wrong legal structure for your charity Oh. Could create headaches down the road.

David:

Right.

Sara:

This guide has a fascinating similar topic that, piques my curiosity. It asks, what's better in British Columbia, a charity or a not for profit? The answer, as you might expect, isn't so simple.

David:

Okay. So let's unpack that a bit. I think a lot of people assume charity and nonprofit are, like, interchangeable.

Sara:

Right.

David:

But that's not the case in Canada. Right?

Sara:

Not at all. Both structures have their pros and cons, and the best choice really depends on your specific goals, activities, and how you plan to fund your operations.

David:

Yeah.

Sara:

A charity lawyer can help you weigh those factors and make an informed decision.

David:

So let's say I'm starting an organization that wants to provide educational workshops to underprivileged communities. Would that automatically

Sara:

certainly sounds like it has the potential to be charitable Okay. But it's not as simple as just having a good cause. Canadian law has specific criteria for what constitutes a charitable purpose. Okay. Advancing education, as you mentioned, is one of the 4 broad categories recognized by the CRA.

David:

Okay.

Sara:

But there are nuances within those categories. This guide actually has another similar topic that caught my eye Yeah. Simply titled, what is a charitable purpose?

David:

I'm sensing a theme here. Yeah. Nothing is as straightforward as it seems when it comes to charity law.

Sara:

You got it. A charity lawyer can help you articulate your purpose in a way that aligns with CRA regulations and ensures your activities truly provide a public benefit. Going back to your example, if your educational workshops aim to enhance the employability skills of underprivileged youth, that would likely strengthen your case for charitable status because it demonstrates a clear public benefit.

David:

That makes sense. So what are some of the key differences between registered charities and not for profits? This guide mentions tax receipts, which seem like a big deal.

Sara:

You're absolutely right. One of the most significant advantages of being a registered charity is the ability to issue official donation receipts for income tax purposes.

David:

Right.

Sara:

This could be a huge incentive for donors as they can claim a portion of their donation back as a tax credit, not for profits, generally can't offer this benefit.

David:

So if you're relying heavily on individual donations, registering as a charity might be the way to go.

Sara:

Exactly. But it's important to remember that with those benefits come increased responsibilities. Registered charities are subject to more stringent regulations and reporting requirements from the CRA. They need to maintain meticulous records, demonstrate financial transparency, and submit annual reports detailing their activities and finances. It's a significant administrative burden, but it's all part of maintaining public trust and accountability.

David:

Okay. So back to that question. What's better in British Columbia, a charity or a not for profit? Mhmm. It really sounds like there's no one size fits all answer.

Sara:

Exactly. A charity lawyer in BC can guide you through the pros and cons considering factors like your funding model, desired level of public engagement, and tolerance for administrative complexity. They can also help you understand any unique regulations or considerations specific to British Columbia.

David:

Now this guide also hints at something called DBA for charities. Yes. That's doing business as. Does that mean charities can have multiple names?

Sara:

That's a really interesting point and one that definitely warrants further investigation. I suspect it might relate to the ability of charities to operate specific programs or initiatives under different names, perhaps, to target specific audiences or funding streams.

David:

So a charity focused on environmental conservation might create a separate DBA for a youth outreach program.

Sara:

That's a plausible scenario. Okay. But the legal implications and how it works in practice are something we'd need to delve deeper into. It highlights how even seemingly simple things can raise complex legal questions in the world of charities.

David:

Let's add that to our list of future deep dives. But for now, let's get back to some of the other similar topics. This guide touches on one that really caught my eye was about ensuring grant activities aligned with your charitable purpose.

Sara:

Yes. That's a crucial point. This guide emphasizes that charities need to be incredibly careful when it comes to grant making, especially when giving to nonqualified dunny.

David:

Now remind me what's a nonqualified dun again.

Sara:

It's basically an organization that isn't itself a registered charity, but might still be eligible to receive grants from a charity under certain circumstances.

David:

Mhmm.

Sara:

Think of it like a charity lending a helping hand to a group that's doing good work, but doesn't have the same legal status.

David:

Okay. So why does this guide specifically emphasize alignment with charitable purpose when giving to nonqualified DUNS?

Sara:

Well, the CRA has strict guidelines about this. If a charity gives a grant to a nonqualified done, they need to demonstrate that the activity being funded directly aligns with their own charitable purpose.

David:

Okay.

Sara:

It's about ensuring that the charity's funds are being used in a way that's consistent with their mission and the CRA's definition of charitable.

David:

So for example, if my charity focuses on promoting literacy, I couldn't just give a grant to any organization that needs funding.

Sara:

Exactly. You'd need to show how that organizations work even if they're not a registered charity themselves directly contributes to promoting literacy. Perhaps they're running a community library in a remote area or providing literacy support to new immigrants.

David:

It sounds like there's a lot of responsibility on charities to not only choose their grantees carefully, but also to demonstrate that their grant making activities are truly charitable.

Sara:

Absolutely. And the stakes are high. If the CRA determines that a charity's grants aren't aligned with its purpose, it could lead to penalty sanctions or even revocation of charitable status.

David:

Speaking of which, this guide also has a chilling section about revoked charity registration.

Sara:

Yes.

David:

I'm curious. What are some of the most common reasons why charities lose their status?

Sara:

Well, failing to file required annual reports and financial statements with the CRA is a big one.

David:

Right.

Sara:

It's crucial for charities to demonstrate financial transparency and accountability. Another common reason is charitable purpose.

David:

So if a charity starts dabbling in activities that are more political or commercial in nature, that that could raise red flags.

Sara:

Absolutely. The CRA is very careful to ensure that charities are using their resources for genuine charitable purposes and not for personal gain or political influence.

David:

This guide mentions that BIG can help organizations navigate the reregistration process if their status is revoked. I imagine that's a situation where having expert legal guidance would be absolutely essential.

Sara:

Oh, without a doubt, reinstating charitable status can be a complex and challenging process. It involves addressing the underlying reasons for revocation, demonstrating corrective actions, and convincing the CRA that the organization is now operating in compliance with all regulations. A charity lawyer can help you navigate this process, build a strong case, and increase your chances of a successful outcome.

David:

It sounds like prevention is definitely the best medicine in this case. Having a lawyer on your side from the start can help you avoid these kinds of pitfalls altogether.

Sara:

Precisely, a charity lawyer can be like a trusted guide helping you chart a safe and successful course through the often turbulent waters of Canadian Charity Law.

David:

Now this guide also touches on a topic that I think a lot of faith based organizations might be curious about registering a mosque, church, or temple as a charity in British Columbia.

Sara:

Mhmm.

David:

What are some of the unique considerations there?

Sara:

That's a great question. This is where understanding the interplay between federal and provincial regulations is essential.

David:

Okay.

Sara:

While the overall framework for charity law is federal, each province may have its own nuances and interpretations.

David:

So even though we're talking about Canadian Charity Law, there can be regional variations.

Sara:

Exactly. And British Columbia, in particular, has its own specific legislation and case law that impacts how faith based organizations qualify for charitable status.

David:

Interesting.

Sara:

For example, they need to demonstrate that their activities provide a public benefit beyond simply serving their own congregation.

David:

So a church that only offers services to its members and doesn't engage in any outreach or charitable works in the broader community might not qualify?

Sara:

That's a likely scenario.

David:

Okay.

Sara:

They would need to demonstrate how their activities benefit the public good, perhaps through community outreach programs, social services, or interfaith initiatives.

David:

It sounds like registering a faith based organization as a charity requires a careful balancing act between religious freedom and demonstrating a broader public benefit.

Sara:

You hit the nail on the head, and a charity lawyer who's familiar with BC specific regulations can be invaluable in helping faith based organizations navigate this process.

David:

Yeah.

Sara:

They can advise on structuring activities, developing outreach programs, and articulating their public benefit in a way that satisfies the CRA.

David:

Now this guide also delves into a topic that's particularly relevant in today's world. Can Canadian organizations upholding human rights obtain charitable registration?

Sara:

Yes. This is a fascinating area where charity law intersects with social justice advocacy. And, again, the answer isn't as simple as you might think.

David:

So just because an organization is fighting for a good cause, like, human rights doesn't automatically make them a charity.

Sara:

That's right. The CRA has very specific criteria for what qualifies as a charitable purpose, and advocacy in and of itself can be a bit of a gray area.

David:

So how do human rights organizations navigate this challenge?

Sara:

Well, they need to demonstrate that their activities go beyond simply advocating for policy changes or raising awareness. They need to show how their work directly addresses a charitable need and provides a tangible public benefit.

David:

So for example, an organization working to combat discrimination might offer legal aid services to victims, provide education and training on human rights issues, or run programs that promote social inclusion.

Sara:

Exactly. Those are all examples of activities that could strengthen their case for charitable status. It's about demonstrating that their work has a direct impact on addressing specific social problem and that their activities align with the CRA's definition of charitable.

David:

It sounds like a tricky balance to stick between advocating for a systemic change and demonstrating tangible charitable outcomes.

Sara:

It definitely can be, and this is where having a charity lawyer who understands the nuances of both human rights law and charity law can be incredibly valuable.

David:

Yeah.

Sara:

They can help these organizations structure their activities, articulate their purpose, and make a compelling case for charitable status.

David:

This guide really shines a light on the complexities of navigating Canadian Charity Law. It's definitely a lot more than just filling out a form and hoping for the best.

Sara:

It is it requires careful planning, strategic decision making, and a deep understanding of the legal landscape. And as we've seen, having a skilled charity lawyer on your side can make all the difference in ensuring your success and maximizing your impact.

David:

It's really fascinating how this guide manages to be both, like, practical Yeah. And thought provoking. Yeah. It's not just a dry legal document. You know, it really gets you thinking about the bigger picture of what it means to actually operate a charity effectively and ethically in Canada.

Sara:

I agree. It's clear that BIG Charity Law Group isn't just interested in ticking boxes and filing forms.

David:

Right.

Sara:

They want to empower charities to succeed and make a real difference in the world.

David:

Yeah.

Sara:

And that's something I deeply admire.

David:

Absolutely. Speaking of making a difference, there's one more similar topic in this guide that I wanted to touch on before we wrap up. It's the one about how to know if your charity registration has been revoked. That sounds a bit ominous, doesn't it?

Sara:

It does have a certain dramatic flare, doesn't it? But in all seriousness, it's a crucial topic

David:

Right.

Sara:

That every charity leader should be aware of. Losing your charitable status can have significant consequences, both financially and reputationally.

David:

So let's say a charity is going about its business, raising funds, running programs, and then one day, bam, they get a letter from the CRA informing them that their registration has been revoked.

Sara:

Right.

David:

What happens next?

Sara:

Well, the first and most important step is to thoroughly understand the reasons for the revocation.

David:

Okay.

Sara:

The CRA won't just revoke a charity's registration out of the blue. They'll issue a notice outlining the specific grounds for their decision

David:

Yeah.

Sara:

Whether it's due to financial mismanagement, failure to file required reports, or engaging in activities that are inconsistent with their charitable purpose.

David:

So it's like getting a legal report card, and it's not one you wanna, like, frame and put on your wall.

Sara:

Exactly. And just like a bad report card, it's important not to panic.

David:

Right.

Sara:

But to address the issues head on, the good news is that revocation isn't necessarily the end of the story.

David:

Okay.

Sara:

There are pathways to reinstatement.

David:

Good.

Sara:

But it does require a concerted effort and often expert legal guidance.

David:

So what are some of the steps involved in reinstating revoke charity registration? This guide mentions that BIG can help organizations navigate that process.

Sara:

They certainly can. And having a lawyer who specializes in charity law can be invaluable in this situation. Reinstatement typically involves demonstrating that you've taken corrective actions to address the reasons for revocation. This could include revising your governing documents, implementing stricter financial controls, or even changing the nature of your activities to ensure they're fully aligned with your charitable purpose and CRA regulations.

David:

So it's about showing the CRA that you've learned from your mistakes and are committed to operating in a compliant and transparent manner going forward.

Sara:

Precisely. It's about rebuilding trust and demonstrating that your organization deserves to hold that charitable status, once again, a charity lawyer can guide you through the process, help you prepare the necessary documentation, and present your case to the CRA in the most compelling way possible.

David:

It sounds like a lot of work, but also a potential opportunity for growth and renewal.

Sara:

Absolutely. It's a chance to reevaluate your operations, strengthen your governance practices, and emerge as a stronger and more resilient organization.

David:

Now beyond the legal aspects of reinstatement, I imagine there's also a reputational element to consider.

Sara:

You're right. Having your charitable status revoked can be damaging to an organization's reputation, especially if it's due to serious breaches of trust or financial impropriety, rebuilding that trust with donors beneficiaries, and the wider public is essential for long term success.

David:

So it's not just about legal compliance. It's also about ethical conduct Mhmm. And demonstrating a genuine commitment to your charitable mission.

Sara:

Couldn't have said it better myself. Transparency, accountability, and integrity are the cornerstones of a truly effective and trustworthy charity.

David:

Well, this deep dive has been incredibly eye opening. We've gone from, like, the seemingly simple question of why a charity lawyer is important to uncovering the complexities of charitable purpose grant making and even the possibility of revoked registration. It's clear that Canadian Charity Law is a nuanced and ever evolving field.

Sara:

It certainly is. And it's a field that constantly reminds us that even the most well intentioned organizations need to operate within a legal and ethical framework.

David:

So as we wrap up, what are some key takeaways for our listeners who are considering starting a charity in Canada or even for those who are already established but want to ensure they're on solid legal ground?

Sara:

I'd say the most important takeaway is to never underestimate the value of expert legal guidance.

David:

Yeah.

Sara:

A charity lawyer can be your trusted adviser helping you navigate the complexities of Canadian Charity Law and make informed decisions that protect your organization and maximize your impact.

David:

And remember, it's not just about avoiding legal pitfalls. Pitfalls.

Sara:

Right.

David:

A good charity lawyer can also be a strategic partner, helping you develop effective governance practices, structure your fundraising activities, and ensure that your operations are aligned with your mission and the ever changing regulatory landscape.

Sara:

They can also be a source of invaluable support and peace of mind, allowing you to focus on what truly matters, pursuing your charitable goals, and making a positive difference in the world.

David:

Well said. And if this deep dive has sparked your interest and you wanna learn more, we encourage you to check out BIG Charity Law Group's website. They have a wealth of resources and information available, and their team of experienced lawyers is dedicated to supporting the success of charities across Canada.

Sara:

And remember, the journey of starting and running a charity can be challenging, but it's also incredibly rewarding. So embrace the complexities, seek expert advice when needed, and never lose sight of the positive impact you're striving to create.

David:

Well said. And on that note, we'll wrap up this deep dive into the world of Canadian Charity Law. Thanks for joining us.