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When I get up Friday morning,
I want to try it, dude.
My sleep has not been fantastic the past
two weeks or so.
And I've never heard anything bad about
it.
So I'm in.
Well,
you saw Jamie's readouts on her stuff like
resting heart rate lower,
sleep more soundly, much longer.
Dude,
and I went from like two hours at
a time to six hours at a time.
It is phenomenal.
I can't say enough good things about it.
And it's melatonin free.
It has collagen in it to help you
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So when you're working out,
it helps with that.
It's got it all.
not fish collagen not not fish collagen
like good grass-fed beef collagen good
yeah made from american cows that have the
flag print printed on them all right so
now i gotta update everybody on my
diagnosis i'd let you know yesterday on
monday i had ear nose and throat found
out i have a big sinus infection i
have to have surgery to remove that plus
a spur on my on my septum
Then yesterday I went to the pulmonologist
thinking that I almost canceled the
appointment because I was like,
it's got to be all this infection.
Like that's got to be everything.
All contraire, mon frere.
I go to the pulmonologist.
They look at my CAT scan or CT
scan of my chest,
and they compare it to two years ago.
And there's some abnormalities in my lungs
that have grown in the last two years.
They believe it is sarcoidosis.
And when he said that, I was like,
what is that?
Am I dying tomorrow?
Yeah.
And he said, what it is,
is when your immunity system immune
system, um,
overworks and produces too many cells,
they form as a cluster called a I'm
going to granule granule or granule Noma.
And I keep producing those and they're
like little masses in my lungs.
So
It's the reason I'm coughing a lot.
It's the reason that I'm out of breath
when I'm working out.
And they need to do a biopsy to
confirm before they can start treatment.
It is treatable.
It is curable.
They just have to verify that it is
what they think it is.
And so I'm waiting for the surgeons to
set up an appointment to talk with them
and then schedule an appointment for the
biopsy.
And then I will meet back with the
pulmonologist three days after we get the
results.
And then we go from there.
All right.
So I have the...
infection that is horrid and really
affecting my life right now and i have
this um sarcoidosis supposedly allegedly
needs to be verified and then there seems
to be a thing yeah our resident md
says definitely needs to be verified and
shea glad you didn't cancel yeah
When I told my wife I almost canceled,
she about lost.
Well, not about.
She lost her shit on me.
She was not pleased.
Yeah, she laid the smack down on.
Well, I mean, look, to be fair,
I would have done the same thing.
I would have been thinking, well, I mean,
this is clearly what it is.
Why do I need to go in here?
I'm tired of seeing doctors.
right over and over and over again so
yeah why why wouldn't i at this point
like to hell with this so thankfully you
were like all right whatever i'm just
gonna go see at least then you'll have
something right one way or the other so
i like i live on the north part
of columbus so here's columbus and i live
like up here yeah right the best doctors
are actually like up here
So it's a drive every time I go
see the doctor.
And that's why I almost canceled.
Like,
is it worth getting into traffic and going
all the way up north and doing all
this stuff?
but I'm glad I did.
I'm glad I did.
I'm glad I got answers.
It explains how I've been feeling to a
T and if we can correct it and
then move forward.
Like finally,
I feel like after four years of going
through bad doctors and all the bad
diagnosis and all the steroids and all the
antibiotics and all that stuff,
finally we're heading in the right
direction with,
with doctors who seem to give a shit.
That's a big plus.
Yeah.
Larry Young, the harder I work,
the more seems to get in the way.
But damn, you have a lot going on.
Hopefully this all leads to better times.
Amen, Larry.
My wife was getting pretty negative last
night.
I'm like, listen, this is a positive.
I finally have answers.
I finally have answers.
And I...
I feel like a sentence has been lifted
off of me.
No one would kill me, dude.
Well, it's not this.
Well, we think it's this.
Oh, no, it's not this.
Well,
that would absolutely drive me bananas.
That's why I don't like doctors to begin
with.
Yeah.
Well, I don't like bad doctors.
These doctors I've seen have been...
dude, like they sat down, like my ear,
nose and throat sat down and explained
everything to me, hand wrote notes for me,
why we were sitting there,
answered all my questions,
the pulmonologist, the same thing.
Like finally, when I,
and I changed primary care physicians and
like, it's just been night and day.
Like, she's like, let's find answers.
Let's find the best at everything that you
that's affecting you.
And I will refer you to all of
them.
And makes all the difference in the world.
Makes all the difference in the world.
I guess that's why I don't.
I would say the same thing.
I qualify that what I actually said was
I don't like bad doctors who just want
to put a bandaid on it.
prescribe you some medicine,
treat the symptom and then call it good
and send you on your way that that's
useless.
Like that's just throwing money away at
that point.
And it doesn't actually fix anything.
I'm, I don't like, like, let's,
whatever this is,
tell me what we need you to actually
fix it.
And then we can move on.
Anyway, I'm glad I do.
I'm so happy for you.
Like answers.
That's, that's a godsend right there.
Our good doctor says she doesn't like bad
doctors either.
Well, I mean,
one makes the other one look bad.
Right.
All the good doctors get a bad,
bad name.
People who actually care and people who
actually want to fix things and make them
better look bad for the,
for the one or the other people just,
or just phoning it in and just collecting
a paycheck for all intents and purposes.
Yeah.
So now the big thing,
I'm just waiting for the antibiotic nasal
wash to come to help like alleviate this
up here until I get the surgery.
But it had to be compounded.
So it had to be made in Tennessee
and it's being shipped to me.
So I just have to wait for that.
All right.
But there we are with that.
And then waiting on everything else.
There's a lot going on in medicine that
makes some doctors look bad,
even though they may not be,
unfortunately.
is also fair yeah well speaking of bad
if you if you didn't see what happened
at the if-three and for people who don't
know the if-three is the international
fitness federation yeah there's another f
in there that i'm not because it's f-three
but functional fitness federation there
you go yeah
They have been around since twenty
sixteen.
Their whole purpose was to standardize the
sport of fitness to make it an Olympic
sport.
Correct.
Noble cause.
Yeah.
Thought process is good.
Has actually kind of taken off in Europe,
in some countries like Norway actually
subsidizes their athletes to participate
in this.
Like, good thing, right?
Yeah, I understand.
So apparently their processes every year
during the championships,
they put out for bid who's going to
host it just like the Olympics.
Yep.
I'm okay with all of that,
but there still should be some oversight
to make sure whoever bids on it actually
comes through with a good product because
your name is stamped on it.
And that piece, I think,
was missed at this year's IF-III.
And I believe this IF-III in Australia was
just Masters.
It was.
So now it's a subset of your big
competition,
and you let all of this just taint
your name in such a bad way.
You say missed the target.
Every time somebody says that,
it reminds me of Bob Euchre in...
Major League.
Just a bit outside.
And it's five feet off, you know,
ten feet off the plate because that's what
happened.
I watched Taylor's video no less than five
times because I had to because I kept
every time I watched it again,
I'd catch something else that happened
that he said because he was going so
fast through everything.
I know he did it on purpose.
It worked.
But holy like
I have three.
Oh, my goodness.
What a shit show.
I competed in Aruba in twenty twenty two
and it wasn't this bad.
I've actually heard good reports about the
way that it's been run in the past.
But it only takes one bad event to
to put to damage your name.
To be fair, this isn't just bad.
This is colossally bad.
This is unimaginably bad.
No medical?
No medical?
None.
Zero.
And you have Masters athletes.
Masters athletes.
I've been at Masters events where there
was a cardiac event on the floor.
I believe I was at the same one.
Yeah.
And you don't have medical there?
No.
Now, all they had,
I say all they had, ruptured Achilles,
still a pretty severe injury.
Still pretty severe.
But not like life-threatening.
They got so lucky.
That's an incredible thing to roll the
dice on.
That's a wild thing to roll the dice
on.
Well,
what can we not have and still run
this okay?
How about a medical team?
Yeah, sure.
Who needs that?
These guys will be fine.
One of our athletes ruptured a triceps at
the comp.
It makes me hurt just thinking about it.
So they didn't have a truck show up
with skiers.
They didn't have a medical team.
They tried to run the men and women
in the same lane doing the same event
at the same time.
Waterfall style.
That wasn't even the waterfall style.
That's another thing.
Then they tried to run an event waterfall
style and said,
don't catch up to the guy in front
of you.
You're racing.
Which is the entire point of catching up
to the guy in front of you.
Literally the point.
It's a race.
Are you freaking kidding me?
And the thought process of like,
so I saw the response of the IF-III
president,
whoever it was on Heller's comment,
saying, hey,
at least we're getting publicity.
And this is just a one-off.
This is just a, dude,
don't you know in the legal system,
people sue the deepest pockets.
Every time.
They're going to come all the way back
to you.
You had no oversight with your name on
this product.
None.
Zero.
You cannot run an organization that way.
You can't license out your name on
something as a final for the Masters.
It wasn't just like a
It's the third event or whatever.
I don't know how they do it.
They have a points race or whatever the
case may be.
But that was their final.
The very tippy top.
And you're just going to go, yep,
you guys won the bid.
Go ahead and run it.
It's going to be great.
You guys are going to do fantastic.
And it's a complete and utter shit show
in every single aspect.
The scoring change that they did, well,
some people did, well,
we can't have this endurance event.
Well,
we can't have it without this endurance
event.
Well,
some people are going to have to redo
this endurance event because we changed
it.
And, okay, well,
maybe that score will work.
Maybe that score won't work.
Whoa.
So I want to clear this up.
It wasn't Gretchen.
Gretchen is the president of the IF-III.
She was not the one that made the
comment on Hiller's post.
It was actually the Canadian
representative.
Correct.
That's who it was.
And so...
You're right.
They had two clocks going for the
endurance event.
Some judges did it right.
Some judges did it wrong.
They had times all messed up.
Athletes were going back and watching the
video and re-timing it to show what was
good, what was bad, what their times were.
And then they started a re-do.
Halfway through the redo, he said,
this is a shit show again,
so we're just cutting this off,
but we're going to count your redo if
you did it.
If not,
you'll just be judged on five events.
It makes sense.
I love Lucy.
Remember I love Lucy?
I'm sure you saw reruns when you were
kids.
When she's in the pie factory...
And stuff just keeps coming out and it
keeps going faster and she keeps going
faster and she's trying to stuff it.
She's trying to whatever she can.
I feel like that's what happened.
Like one thing,
one domino fell and then everything else
just started coming after it.
And they were just,
and had no idea what to do because
that's what it feels like.
Like stuff was just kept going and it
kept going and it kept going and it
kept going and it kept going.
oh my word no i did not but
i need to i did not shana i
will i will look at that um sema
uh the chocolate kisses yeah yeah uh and
john john george great analogy it was just
one thing on top of another and instead
of shutting it down stopping taking ten
minutes and saying okay what's happening
what do we need to do
Okay, let's do.
And not leaving up.
At what point they ask the athletes,
they put it up to a vote to
them.
You don't ask the athletes what they want
to do.
No, no.
That's not how this works.
Hey,
we're going to come up with a plan.
Cool.
Look,
we're just going to eliminate the
endurance event.
I know at every single one of y'all
had an endurance event.
However, it's not feasible right now.
So instead of trying to change it or
come up with something last minute to fix
it, we're just doing five events.
So if you already did that event,
Sorry.
I don't know what to tell you.
We're moving on from it.
Thank you, Kenneth.
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Yeah.
I like the cons.
So if you don't know the concept of
the F three, they have like,
they take all the elements of,
of CrossFit endurance, um,
strength all that and and there's one
event for each one of those elements and
then some mixed stuff at the end and
it and that's the way it's formatted so
it could be an olympic sport right right
and it's a it's a cool concept but
this has been disastrous oh my gosh
They allowed an athlete to use a lighter
weight because she couldn't make the lift
and she podiumed.
So my question to you is, okay,
who's at fault?
Is it the people who are running the
event in Australia or is it the IF
three?
You go high enough.
There's one, it's one guy, right?
Well,
here's my shit rolls downhill generally,
but when things go wrong, they,
you follow the trail right back to where
it started.
The lack of oversight on this event is
evident and,
and they are the ones that should be
accountable for everything that went
wrong.
I have another big movie reference, uh,
Mel Gibson movie plays a bad guy that
like his got double crossed and he's
trying to try to get his seventy thousand
dollars back.
And he's like,
I want to talk to the boss.
And he said, well,
this or who would be in charge of
that decision?
And he said, well,
this decision will go to committee.
He's like, no, no.
There's always one guy.
You go high enough, it's always one guy.
It's the same thing, right?
IF-III licensed this out to these people.
Absolutely did.
You can use our name and likeness,
but it's not CrossFit.
It's not like going to a bad CrossFit
gym where they just pay to use the
name.
This is your event.
This is your final.
If you go high enough,
it comes down to one guy.
I think Hill is absolutely right.
It's the IF-III.
It has to be.
George, go to the top.
It can't be anybody else.
How else could it be anybody else?
You're just going to give it to them
and be like, guys, have fun.
See you later.
With no oversight whatsoever,
because there couldn't have been.
If there had been something,
I feel like just because of their history
of all these other events being what they
are, apparently went well.
Because a lot of other people are saying,
oh, well, the one here went well,
the one here went well,
the one here went well,
whatever the case may be.
And this one was just an absolute dumpster
fire.
So something had to happen.
There was no way we'd start going to
Australia this year.
Whatever.
We'll let these people do it.
It's fine.
It was not the Expendables.
I know what you're talking about,
but I can't think of it.
It's more obscure than the Expendables.
It's like later Mel Gibson.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It'll come to me.
I posted a copy of the Germans video.
Interesting to see what it all looked
like.
So the German video is the one that
they used to try to go back and
adjust scores.
If I'm not mistaken,
I think that's what Hiller was saying,
like there were some German people there
that were.
Video and you know.
Video in the entire thing,
and that's what they were trying to go
back and use their video to try to
adjust or fix the scores or whatever.
And even that did not work apparently.
So I don't know.
uh get carter get carter i think that's
it no maybe that's that's not carter's a
stallone movie that's just a long movie
stand by i'm gonna find it leto member
for five months man she's awesome she is
she's the best thank you for being so
supportive leto love you
Um, all right.
So speaking of the, I have three, I,
I, and other in related news,
I got rumors that the WFP has come
out with new shirts that say,
at least we're not the, I have three.
It's just, it's their logo.
It's their logo with the three little
dots.
At least we're not the IF-III.
It's just a picture of Will Morad giving
the two thumbs up.
No, the movie's called Payback.
I looked it up.
Fantastic.
Or the other shirt with Will just with
his thumbs up going,
and you thought we sucked.
Oh, man.
You thought we had some bad ideas.
Kenneth the Lap, eight-teen-month member.
That is OG.
Yeah, so, Mr. John George.
Those t-shirts are the first thing they've
said that isn't a total lie.
Yeah, a hundred percent.
A hundred percent.
That was the other thing that blew my
mind, was that the woman that was...
I don't even want to say she was
defending...
what happened right because she's like
she's like she kept saying oh yes but
they kept saying well at least nobody died
we nobody is comparing the two things yeah
yeah that was dumb nobody's comparing the
two things at no point did healer say
anything about anything else
He didn't bring up the games.
Like his whole entire video,
he didn't bring up the games.
He didn't bring up WFP.
He was just pointing out, again,
what happened here.
And then people want to throw shade and
say, well, at least nobody died.
No, but they damn well could have.
At least there was.
If you want to play that game, sure.
CrossFit Games actually had medical staff
on hand.
It always does.
It always will.
That, that blows my mind.
And then, uh, the, the, I have three,
the Canadian lady kept saying, well,
we're being transparent.
Yeah.
This.
Dude.
Yeah.
Okay.
You're admitting that it sucked,
but then you're also backpedaling at the
same, at the same time saying, well,
this is an isolated event.
Okay.
It is an isolated event and it went
as horribly wrong as anything.
It's Murphy's law.
If it could go wrong, it did.
And guess what it did.
Own it.
Sean in Oregon,
thankful for lunch with the Clydesdale,
Corey CrossFit, the regulars in this chat.
Isn't it great?
Absolutely.
Lita, thankful for this channel.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Oh, my God.
That's a stupid thing to say.
A person can die in a very safe
and in a very unsafe event.
They just got lucky.
Oh, there was no swimming.
Yeah.
I can walk out of here and get
hit by a bus standing on the street.
It does not matter.
You walk around downtown somewhere and
something falls on your head.
It does not matter.
Safe, unsafe,
you can be the most safe person on
the face of the planet.
Somebody's going to get hurt.
Somebody's going to get killed eventually.
Law of averages.
Does not matter.
For them to do the whole...
safety, transparency, whatever.
It's the pot calling the kettle black.
You're throwing stuff.
Yeah.
They literally didn't have medical staff
at the F three.
Can you imagine if one of those masters
had a heart attack or something?
Yeah.
We talked about Corey and I were at
an event,
a master's event where there was a cardiac
event on the floor.
So it has happened.
We've seen it happen.
It could have very easily happened here.
And the medical staff was on him.
He immediately treated, got the form,
brought to the hospital.
He was okay.
So I want to address a comment I
got a few days back.
And that is that someone asked,
do you think that fitness should be an
Olympic sport?
Do you think that CrossFit in some way
should be in the Olympics?
and my response like is I really don't
care.
No, I don't.
I don't think that the Olympics for sport
like this really makes that much
difference.
No,
there are all these niche sports out
there, fencing and judo.
And that like you watch once every four
years, maybe a couple matches,
but you're not watching it.
You're not watching it like straight
through.
Um,
Every time the Winter Olympics comes on,
me and my wife sit down and watch
curling.
I do like curling.
Every single year.
We have curling venues here in Columbus
for you to try.
Ironically, at first, right?
Because we're like,
what is going on right here?
But after a while, you're like, what?
it was so close, you know,
or they knocked the thing out or whatever.
The rest of my four years or two,
however long it is, let me start now.
I have absolutely no interest in watching
curling whatsoever.
When it comes off with Olympics,
I'm checking it out every single time.
But you wouldn't have to CrossFit.
No, I don't think you would.
What?
If I want to see CrossFit, I can,
first of all,
I can go to my gym and watch
a class.
It's not that I coached two of them
this morning.
I can watch all the CrossFit I want.
I go to one of my competitions and
watch the other that I'm going to be
participating in and watch the other heats
go.
I can bring up the games.
I can watch the documentaries.
I can watch the behind the scenes.
Like I got plenty enough of that.
Well,
even a better analogy is like tennis.
If you're a big tennis fan,
do you watch the Olympic tennis matches or
do you watch Wimbledon and the U.S.
Open and the French Open?
Right?
We have the CrossFit Games.
That is where the best come and they
duke it out for the championship.
That's where it means something.
Right?
I just don't think it means anything.
And it's going to be a bastardized version
of CrossFit in the Games anyway.
Right?
So I don't even think it even moves
the needle to put it in the Olympics.
No.
And like Lita said,
there was breakdancing at the Olympics for
Christ's sake.
Right.
And how much of that did you watch?
Just the Australian chick who... Well,
I saw that on the talk and on
the reels.
And only because it went viral.
Right.
That's it.
Other than that, I was like,
that's a cool concept.
I like breakdancing,
but I'm not watching that.
Like Lito said,
soccer at the Olympics is nothing like the
World Cup.
No, it's not even close.
Not even the same stratosphere.
No.
Watching the Dream Team every year just go
beat the ever-living mess out of every
other country on the planet.
Like, okay, cool.
It's like watching the Harlem
Globetrotters play.
You know the outcome before it's going to
start.
I'm not watching that.
That basketball is not for us.
That basketball is to grow the sport
internationally.
Correct.
That's all that is.
It's not for our entertainment.
No.
So, once again, misleader there.
Well,
that's why the IF-III has a very set...
Full circle of what is available.
Full circle.
So here's the thing, too.
So they have a strength event, right?
They have whatever it is,
six or seven things, endurance, blah,
blah, blah, whatever.
All of those things are already events at
the Olympics.
Weightlifting is an event at the Olympics.
Speed, so track,
is going to be an event at the
Olympics.
Endurance, marathoning.
Speed walking is an Olympic event,
for Christ's sake.
Right.
So you're trying to condense all of those
things into make it and just call it
CrossFit when it's already going on over
there.
Like,
I understand what they're trying to do.
I just don't think it's a very good
idea.
It's probably not going to end up
happening because if people, you know,
accidentally watching it,
they're not going to know what they're
looking at.
Right.
Aside from us,
people who actually know what they're
looking at and they're just going to look
at it and go.
Oh, that's already a thing.
Like, why are we watching this again?
Why am I watching this?
Whoever this guy is snatch when I could
watch an actual Olympic lifter snatch and
hit way bigger numbers.
Um,
Lito.
However,
I bet a few good athletes would try
to get to the Olympics just to be
able to have the Olympic circles tattoo.
Just saying,
I think people would think it was a
cool experience.
Absolutely.
But if you ask Jason Hopper,
if he wants an Olympic medal or the
CrossFit games fittest on earth,
I believe he'd say fittest on earth.
Yeah.
I just remember,
and this is a very obscure reference,
Lindsay Davenport,
when they first put tennis into the
Olympics,
she was an American tennis player.
She'd won Wimbledon.
She'd won the U.S.
Open.
She goes and wins the Olympic medal.
And it meant something.
She got to be on the podium.
She got to do the thing in the
stadium and the walk-in and all that.
But it didn't mean as much to her
as the Wimbledon title.
Yeah.
because wimbledon's the premier event on
the planet like that's the one you win
uh sean in oregon didn't tia claire to
me try to get out try out for
the olympic bobsled team she did she
actually made the australian bobsled team
but then got replaced last second right
before the olympics um
she also tried in weightlifting and she
made it to the commonwealth games but
didn't finish high enough to qualify for
the game for the olympics which again is
cool but as good as tia is at
what we do she's always going to get
beat by the specialists who that's all
they do i mean that's just a fact
I don't know how hard bobsled is.
It just seems like sliding down a mountain
inside of a... Well,
it's almost not a track start.
Yeah.
It's how fast can you run and push
the sled to get it started.
And then it's just steering it so you
don't get out of control.
You don't want to be like the Jenkins
and end up upside down at the bottom.
It seems like fun.
I will say that.
flying down the side of a mountain at
ninety miles an hour,
however fast it goes.
I grew up in the Appalachian Mountains.
Sled riding was that for me every day.
Just up on my little plastic sled,
get going about thirty miles an hour
downhill, try to miss a tree.
Come on, Jamaica, it's bobsled time.
Feel the light.
Come on, Jamaica, it's bobsled time.
Fantastic movie.
Yeah.
All right.
What else we got?
They have decided,
the Safety Council has decided that every
athlete at the CrossFit Games in the
individual and team event will go through
medical screening.
On their own.
From their doctor.
Yeah.
Basically,
you need to get a note from your
doctor that says, hey, this dude is fit.
He's healthy.
My primary care physician is my wife's
first cousin.
I'm just going to put that out there.
I could call Dwayne right now.
In high school, trying to play football,
and you walk in to get your physical,
and the doctor checked you for hernia and
said, all right, good to go.
look just sign the people that's what it
feels like here yeah absolutely absolutely
i'm telling you dude i could call dwayne
right now be like hey i need a
waiver to go compete at the game he'd
be like you want me to email it
to you or or you just gonna come
pick it up and i'll let i'll come
pick it up in a little bit all
right cool and that's the end of it
it's done i'm not going to his office
i'm not doing any of that he's just
gonna send it on the way and we're
gonna call the good
I guess the answer to this is what
liability does that excuse them from?
That's got to be what it is.
It's not a safety thing.
It's a cover our ass thing.
It's a CYA thing.
Yes, one hundred percent.
It is the waiver that you sign when
you sign up for your first CrossFit class
that says you will not sue them if
you hurt yourself inside their gym.
Which that is meaningless anyway.
Which that is.
Any lawyer will look at it and be
like, this is nonsense.
Okay, yeah, we know.
It's a CYA thing.
That's it.
Mike thinks we should just let them drug
test themselves too.
Why, yeah.
It'll cut costs,
get rid of the medical team,
and get rid of the drug testing.
Yeah.
Yeah, that's all we got, Joseph.
Turn and cough.
You're good.
That's it.
Shanna, our resident doctor,
problem is this is a legal document,
and if anything happens to the athlete,
the doctor could be sued.
So it might require a full physical.
I would not sign one without doing a
full physical on a person,
I think is what she's saying.
And that's fair.
One hundred percent, but.
Again,
Scott and I are in agreement on this
one.
I really,
really don't think that this is anything
more than just a, hey, look,
we're making sure everybody's healthy
before they come because their doctor's
not an awful lot.
I appreciate Shanna's point of view,
though, because as the doctor,
CrossFit's covering their ass,
but now it's a liability on the doctor.
On the doctor.
Yeah,
they're passing the buck going down the
line.
Well, Dr.
Buntz said that this athlete was
absolutely fine.
So it's not on us.
I mean, she signed off on it.
CYA.
She's basically agreeing with us at that
point.
Yeah.
Athletes want to change.
Here's change.
Do we know if CrossFit can stop someone
from competing?
My question is that to answer Doug's
question with a question is that what are
the parameters going to be?
Well,
I'm sure they can stop people from
competing whether it's about this or
anything else.
But what are those parameters going to be?
Because you got to have like a
a set stall, right?
Like we're going from, you know,
whatever your metric is, blood pressure,
EKG, well, it's only can go this high,
but not that high.
What's your resting heart rate?
There's gotta have some sort of metrics in
there, not just saying, oh no,
doctor said I'm good.
I got this, I got this thing.
Well,
if you're gonna have that and you're gonna
have to enforce it some sort of way,
like Doug's saying,
then there has to be some sort of
guidelines,
some sort of parameters in place,
because otherwise you're just kind of
swinging at nothing.
I wonder if they have to disclose all
medications they're taking.
We've just heard this is happening.
And this is all through rumors that they
tried to push this through last year.
Yes.
And it did not make it.
Correct.
And now it's being pushed through this
year and it's made it through.
But none of us have seen...
the form that has to be filled out
like Lito saying,
what about if they do an EKG and
try to find things ahead of time?
We don't know if that's required, man,
that it could be a full battery of
tests.
If they require it,
we don't know anything about what they're,
what they're actually forced to do.
Mike, do you all agree?
I don't think,
I don't even think they would stop anyone
from competing.
It's just an added checkbox for liability.
Okay.
Without knowing more,
like that's my first go-to as well.
Without knowing if there's parameters,
if they're saying, you know,
if you don't hit X, Y, Z,
you can't play.
If it's just, oh,
you got to go see a doctor and
get checked off before you come in here.
Well, I mean,
you can get that done at the urgent
care.
Hey,
I just need to get a physical done.
All right, cool.
Come in at two thirty.
We'll get it.
We'll have you out of here by three
o'clock.
Joseph wants to know,
are they testing for pregnancies too?
Mostly for the women.
Let's see.
I know they're coming in.
We have stuff coming in.
If they don't clear them,
I don't think CrossFit would want them to
compete.
Well,
it's pointless to have the rule if you
bypass that anyway.
Right.
So yeah,
it'll be interesting to see if like,
I'm sure like the spin or,
or Hiller or one of those guys are
going to get a copy of it has
to be filled out in the requirements of
the physical or whatever.
But it's going to,
it's going to be interesting to see what,
what comes of that.
As soon as those documents become
available,
I am willing to bet Brian's been going
to get his hands on one like that,
that dude, he gets ahold of everything.
Because all the athletes are going to get
them if they have to take them to
their doctor.
Yeah,
or somebody will send a copy to Jenny.
Yeah.
One or two.
My money's on Brian first.
Yeah.
Back in the day,
I tried to beat Brian at that game.
And I learned real quickly, like,
that is not my lane.
That's not my lane.
I'm just going to let him go ahead
and do that,
and I'm going to find another lane.
Because now with Jenny in the mix and
Hiller, there's no good.
Fastest gun in the West, dude.
Fastest gun in the West.
And look,
us being able to do this and kind
of react to whatever else is going on,
it's like somebody else does most of the
legwork for us.
So I'm good with that.
And I talk to people.
I hear things.
And I add that as part of like
what I'm talking about,
but actually like break the news.
It's much cooler to just kind of be
able to keep the trust of people and
know things than it is to have to
break it and piss everybody off.
The fact that neither Brian nor Hiller,
because Hiller also gets a whole bunch of
stuff, nobody knows any of their sources.
None of that's ever got leaked is amazing,
in my opinion.
This community is not that big.
It's not amazing because they're people
who want to keep doing it.
No,
not saying that either one of those two
would give up any one of them because
Hiller has said repeatedly that he's not,
and I will never say believe,
but just the fact that nobody else has
found out or put it together.
Right.
This community is not that big, dude.
It is unimaginably small,
as a matter of fact.
I got to think about that one day.
If it was an absolute emergency,
I believe I am three phone calls away
from Dave Castro,
which is mind-boggling to me.
I know somebody who knows his numbers.
yeah like that kind of stuff twice removed
yeah not because i'm two yeah that's what
i'm saying three at most at most and
that's if i go in that direction like
because i know i also know people who
know bonds and i know boss has dave's
number so like it's not i think it's
either way it's
This place is not that big.
So the fact that their sources,
whatever they may be,
have been able to stay hidden and stay
like nobody knows who they are.
And they keep getting this information and
keep getting it as fast as they do.
People send stuff to Hiller now because
they know he's going to put it out.
If it's interesting, if it's whatever,
I don't know what the word is,
sensationalized,
whatever you want to call it,
like the IF-III stuff, dude,
he got that overnight.
put it together, made that video.
Like this first thing he says,
I got this blue screen sent to me
at least twelve times.
And probably a ridiculously short amount
of time.
And then put that video together and put
it out.
What I find fascinating is the athletes
that sent him stuff.
Yeah.
And he won't say who,
but just the fact that the same people
bitching about what he puts out send him
tips about what's going on.
That's the wild world we live in.
And I'll talk about this,
and I am going to come on tomorrow
because with my sinus infection,
I was not able to travel for Thanksgiving.
So I'm here by myself.
So I'm going to do a Thanksgiving Day
show.
And if it's just me and Corey and
two other people in the chat,
it is what it is.
But I'll talk about this more tomorrow.
We talked about this reality show concept
for WFP,
and I want to talk about it a
little bit more tomorrow.
Well,
we talk about how the NDA would be
meaningless in the CrossFit space because
nobody can keep a secret.
The truth of the matter is there are
people that can keep a secret and the
Titan games kept a secret.
The, uh,
the shows like the challenge and survivor
and big brother,
like those Hollywood NDAs are much more
ironclad and are much more punishable and
harsh on that penalty that nobody gives up
those secrets.
They have millions of dollars riding on
these episodes coming out and
And so they will come after you hard
if you leak information.
Well, they also have teams of lawyers.
Right, right.
Ready,
like up on the starting blocks ready to
go after people.
You know, we don't necessarily have that.
I mean, when Greg was still in charge,
like those NDAs were pretty...
pretty damn stout,
pretty damn straightforward.
And it took a lot before stuff got
leaked eventually.
And then once it did,
the person that was held responsible for
it was actually held responsible for it.
I think that's when they were small and
the pocket and the circle was small.
As it's grown, the circle's grown,
the leaks have grown and their team has
shrunk.
Yep.
So that's where it's just crazy.
small team a small team so with that
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