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Imagine diving into your workday with renewed energy, leaving behind the exhaustion or dread of a monotonous grind.
Traditional beliefs about success and the root cause of burnout are the same:
Prove yourself.
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I'm your host, Rebecca Fleetwood Hesson, your thrive guide leading you into the new Age of Humanity. I’ve navigated the highs and lows of business and life, from achieving over $40 million in sales, teaching thousands of people around the world about leadership, trust, execution, and productivity to facing burnout, divorce, raising a couple of great humans (one with ADHD), and navigating the uncertainty of starting a business.
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Rebecca Fleetwood Hession: [00:00:00] Welcome back to the Business is Human podcast. I'm your host, Rebecca Fleetwood Heschen, and we're here to bring you episodes that blend a meaningful work with profitable success. Here to steward what I call the Age of Humanity. I believe if we transform the way we work. We can transform the way that we live.
Rebecca Fleetwood Hession: As always, my friendly request, if you like what you hear, hit subscribe so you don't miss any episode and leave a review to tell the other humans that they might like it too. Always looking to help you and connect with others. All right, let's get into it, shall we?
Rebecca Fleetwood Hession: Hey, what if you could have your best summer ever? No, really, I have built a 90 day reset to help you build a bridge from where you are now to where you truly want to be by helping you navigate [00:01:00] uncertainty. Learn about your nervous system. Get a complete inventory of your unique gifts and talents so that you can use them in a meaningful way.
Rebecca Fleetwood Hession: Listen, I've thought of it all and we can use this summer to do it. 90 days, May to August. Hit the link. Schedule some time with me to see if this is for you or just sign up 'cause it probably is limited space. Limited time. Let's go. Let's do it.
Rebecca Fleetwood Hession: Welcome to the Business is Human Podcast, where we explore what it means to build a life and career that doesn't just look successful, but actually feels alive. Today we're talking about something that's shaping our lives more than we realize the habit of analyzing everything. In business, we are trained to solve problems, fix things, and optimize results.
Rebecca Fleetwood Hession: That's what we get paid to do. But what happens is then we [00:02:00] start to treat ourselves the same way. When every thought, feeling and experience becomes something to fix instead of something to feel. In this episode, we're gonna dig into the research behind how chronic analysis rewires our nervous system and not in a good way.
Rebecca Fleetwood Hession: It actually disconnects us from joy, keeps us stuck in survival mode, and we're also gonna talk about how can we shift away from this tendency. Some practical steps, some, some gentle mindset shifts, and mostly I want you to get this powerful reminder right now in your heart and in your soul.
Rebecca Fleetwood Hession: You are not a problem to be fixed. You are a beautiful [00:03:00] human with a life that's meant to be experienced. All right, let's get into it, shall we?
Rebecca Fleetwood Hession: Analysis. there's so much research about this and, I came on this topic because I was doing it, you know, I, I have lots of really smart friends, so the smarter we are and the more successful we are in business, that becomes our pattern.
Rebecca Fleetwood Hession: I noticed that every time we had a conversation, whether it was about work or personal, we were using the same strategies to describe and quote unquote fix the personal. And it's exhausting and always feeling like we need to know why something happened. Well, we all know that. I love me some Jesus. And God doesn't always tell us why things are happening [00:04:00] and good or bad.
Rebecca Fleetwood Hession: And so learning to trust and have faith and experience life is good for us. So the research says. That when we flip between reflection and presence, this constant over analysis keeps us in rumination, is what it's called, and can prevent us from truly engaging in life. So that's from some research around default mode versus task positive network.
Rebecca Fleetwood Hession: There's some other data that says, that we often, we make decisions that sound good in the story. That's the part of ourself that is the narrator, but not actually what feels good. we start to make decisions on how we're gonna talk about the story versus how we're gonna actually experience the experience.
Rebecca Fleetwood Hession: present moment [00:05:00] awareness increases wellbeing. there was so many science backed. Research on this, and I just was like, I'm just gonna pull out some of the nuggets, like if you wanna go down the rabbit hole of, of going into all the, science great.
Rebecca Fleetwood Hession: So present moment awareness increases wellbeing over analysis, reduces emotional resilience. Increases reactivity. So instead of choosing your response from a wellbeing and presence perspective, we get in this rumination and we actually decrease our resilience by doing that.
Rebecca Fleetwood Hession: I love everything that talks about flow state and it says that flow. Requires immersion, experience, not analysis. It's a state of complete presence that fuels creativity, joy, and deep focus. I can remember when Cameron, my [00:06:00] son, would say to me,
Rebecca Fleetwood Hession: you've lost your childlike wonder. Because when he'd want to show me something or tell me something, I would go into the analytical, like why that is and the lesson in it and, and both my kids were like, not everything needs to be a dang lesson, y'all. And they're right childlike wonder. Hello.
Rebecca Fleetwood Hession: Also in the Bible, childlike faith experiencing. Is a necessary part of our lives. So our careers keep us stuck in analysis, but too much analysis without real experience and embodiment makes us think that we are broken instead of just living in rhythm. Sometimes things are good, some things not so good.
Rebecca Fleetwood Hession: Not everything is problem to be fixed. So the nervous system wants us to experience all states connection, the good stuff, activation, [00:07:00] stress, inspiration, challenge, and shutdown. And it's being able to feel and experience all the different states of nervous system flow and rhythm is the way we were designed by God.
Rebecca Fleetwood Hession: I want us to stop doing that so much. I wanna stop doing that. So much. So here are common signs that it's happening. You're constantly seeking new tools, courses, strategies.
Rebecca Fleetwood Hession: Without pause, like you finish one, you're onto the next, you finish one, you're onto the next. here's another symptom or a common sign that it's happening.
Rebecca Fleetwood Hession: Feeling like rest is unproductive. using self-improvement.as self-criticism in disguise ba. So if you can change the story and change [00:08:00] the narrative. Well, this just is all a part of my learning journey.
Rebecca Fleetwood Hession: It's a way that you're just really criticizing yourself. And listen, we need more grace for ourselves, for each other. at the time of this recording, it's May, the fifth month five in the Bible is a number for grace. So could we just proclaim that May is grace month for ourselves and others and not everything needs to be fixed for crying out loud.
Rebecca Fleetwood Hession: We are not a business case study. We're not a product to be optimized. We are a human. It's just have a human experience in all that. It is childlike wonder, bring it back. Okay. So practical ways to experience life more fully. Turn down that an analysis button and turn up the experience knob on your [00:09:00] amplifier.
Rebecca Fleetwood Hession: practical ways to experience more fully. Number one, start with sensation. Ask, what am I feeling in my body right now? I talked about this a few episodes ago. When we get stuck in functional freeze and we lose connection to even being able to feel or experience our bodies, it happens.
Rebecca Fleetwood Hession: So do what's called a one minute body scan. And it's simple. You just pause. Notice from your feet all the way up to your head, every aspect of your body. Just connect with it and feel it. Wiggle your toes, move your legs, feel your but in the chair, just all the way up to, and just reconnect with your body if you have an ora ring or some of those devices.
Rebecca Fleetwood Hession: They will have a [00:10:00] app that gives you music to do one minute body scans to reconnect with your body. Number two, interrupt the fix it mode. So when you find yourself being in that space of analysis, take that thought into captivity, is the way that the Bible describes it and say to yourself. what if nothing's actually wrong?
Rebecca Fleetwood Hession: What if this moment just is, it is what it is. Doesn't that just feel better? say those words out loud. It just is what it is and I don't need to fix it. My body already went into a calmer state just saying that. Number three, redesign your reflection. So shift your journaling from what needs to change to what did I fully feel today?
Rebecca Fleetwood Hession: It's [00:11:00] spring. I felt the breeze this morning. I felt the grass under my feet. When I stepped outside, I felt. How good my lunch tasted. 'cause I maybe just ate it without working during it. There's an idea. So reflect back on your day from an experience perspective, how did the day feel? Number four, experience before you explain.
Rebecca Fleetwood Hession: Try not summarizing or posting about something immediately. If it's meaningful. Instead, just be in it. Just savor it. Let the experience settle before you post about it or narrate it. I've been doing a lot better about this. I used to post because it, I thought that was the fun part of my experience
Rebecca Fleetwood Hession: And I stopped doing it and then being [00:12:00] more in the moment and it's better. my son was home for Easter, and I love it when my son and daughter are under my roof at the same time.
Rebecca Fleetwood Hession: 'cause, you know, at 23 and 28 doesn't happen as much. so the Easter morning, I literally said to Cameron, okay, here are the pictures I want today without you complaining about them. I don't know how many takes it's gonna take to get them, but I need your love and your grace and your mercy, and you can bet as soon as I got the shots I wanted, he was like, okay, we done, because he's into experiencing life and I'm here for it.
Rebecca Fleetwood Hession: number five, create an unmeasured zone. Go take a walk, but you don't count your heartbeats and your steps. Go take a shower. There's nothing better than like clean hair, shower day and everything. Shower as the girls call it. just experience a cup of [00:13:00] coffee, not just slugging it down while you're doing work.
Rebecca Fleetwood Hession: feel it. I love the mug hug. You know when you get that hot coffee or tea and you're just like, ah. You're just feeling that warm cup in your hands, and usually it's in the morning and the day is full of possibilities. I love me a good mug. Hug, I love making my coffee. I've got my collagen powder.
Rebecca Fleetwood Hession: I put in it, I've, put it in the blender and froth it up. I have my favorite mug. Experience things without tracking, learning or optimizing. Let one part of your life be. Just yours, and that's what my daily stillness practice is for me. That's why you'll have a hard time getting an early appointment with me because I love the act of making my coffee and sitting outside, especially in this season, and listening to the [00:14:00] birds and reading my Bible and writing in my journal, and that is my experience time, big time.
Rebecca Fleetwood Hession: Number six, anchor in rhythms, not results. So nervous system regulation is about rhythm, about going through all the stages of your nervous system, connection, activation, shutdown, that is all about rhythm. Your heartbeat is a rhythm, your breath is a rhythm. We as humans are designed with rhythm. The tides are a rhythm.
Rebecca Fleetwood Hession: Sunrise and sunset is a rhythm. We've heard people talk about circadian rhythms to align your body to those so you get better sleep. Build rituals around being like breath work, prayer, music, being present. One time my kids were little and I was living that frenetic life that I. I lived for so, so long.
Rebecca Fleetwood Hession: [00:15:00] I started a practice where I was very careful to make eye contact while my kids were talking. Now, one could say, how sad is it that, that you needed to actually come into consciousness about that. But I was so busy multitasking and doing 15 different things. And when my son was small, he said to me one time, listen with your eyes, mama and I will never forget that.
Rebecca Fleetwood Hession: And I was feeling this state of frenetic activity and I thought, I've got to just be more present. And so when my kids would start talking, which was a lot, is a lot our kids. I would take a deep breath and I would put down what I was doing or pause from it, and I would look up and make eye contact with them to remind me to be present.
Rebecca Fleetwood Hession: So I don't know what it is for you, but just ask yourself daily, did I feel anything [00:16:00] today? Or did I just achieve or be upset with myself because I didn't achieve? You're never getting it all done, y'all. that's a lie. if you read my book, write your own story. You know, you're never getting caught up.
Rebecca Fleetwood Hession: So we have got to feel an experience because it regulates our nervous system. It gets us out of fight flight. We're not a problem to be fixed, so that doesn't mean we're never going to analyze things. That's a good practice as well, in fact. My 90 day reset is partly about feeling and experiencing, and it's also about looking at the patterns and your unique gifts and talents and treating yourself like a valuable asset that you can use those gifts and talents.
Rebecca Fleetwood Hession: So sometimes we do analyze, but we need a healthy, balanced perspective. PS please. Sign up for the [00:17:00] 90 day reset. Well, you better do it quick because you have to do it by May 31st. And I only have limited spots 'cause there's five coaching sessions with me and there's only so much me to go around. But I'm telling you what I've not been as excited about anything that I've created since Rise and Thrive.
Rebecca Fleetwood Hession: So this isn't about not analyzing, it's about re-centering our life around what it feels like to be you. 'cause we were all unique down to our fingerprints. This is our blueprint, reminder of life, that we're all different down to our fingerprints. And so your life is only yours.
Rebecca Fleetwood Hession: Only you can experience it. And honestly, how beautiful is that? So your nervous system wasn't designed to be. measured on a spreadsheet. It's designed to help you love, lead, and live a really fabulous life. So I hope this was [00:18:00] insightful for you today. Like I said, came from my own experiences. I was walking in the woods one day analyzing something and I thought, why do I do this?
Rebecca Fleetwood Hession: So I went down a little rabbit hole to bring you an episode about it. If there's anything that you've gone down a rabbit hole about that you want me to record an episode about, message me mind. Just do it. All right. Love you mean it.
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