Chequered Flag Report

Chuck Hayes and David Gould break down a landmark Miami Grand Prix — Kimi Antonelli's dominant wire-to-wire win at just 19 years old, Max Verstappen's stunning recovery from 13th to 5th after a first-lap spin, and what the early standings say about the season ahead. Plus: Chuck reports from the Apple TV/IMAX debut at Universal Studios Hollywood, and the guys dig into what the new broadcast deal means for F1's growing American fanbase.

What is Chequered Flag Report?

The Chequered Flag Report is the fastest hour in Formula 1 — a weekly podcast and radio show built for fans who want more than the highlight reel.

Co-hosts David Gould and Chuck "Iron Man" Hayes break down every Grand Prix the way it's talked about in the paddock: race previews and predictions, post-race analysis, driver market rumors, betting lines, sponsorship and the business of the sport, and the storylines the mainstream coverage doesn't get to. Bahrain to Abu Dhabi, Monaco to Vegas — wherever the lights go out, the Chequered Flag Report is calling the race.

David brings 30+ years across business, radio, and the worlds of luxury and sponsorship — the voice behind the business of Formula 1. Chuck brings three decades in Las Vegas media, a CBS Sports Radio chair, and a deep motorsport pedigree from a family that co-owned race teams alongside legends like Dale Earnhardt and Mark Martin.

New episodes every race week. Broadcast on KMET 1490 AM in Southern California and K-DAWN 101.5 FM in Las Vegas. Subscribe wherever you get your podcasts.

TRANSCRIPT — CFR 5/7/2026
Generated: 2026-05-21T02:02:12.883Z
Duration: 40 min
Transcript ID: 9ebd4a3a-cb87-48a8-9df0-dc9abf59e466

---

[00:00] Speaker A: Welcome to the checkered Flag report. This is Chuck Hayes with David Gould and we're here talking Formula One. We want to thank you for joining us. David, great to be with you. Another great Formula one weekend. Yeah, we had to wait a little while, but was well worthwhile.

[00:14] Speaker B: It felt good to actually, it felt like the old days, which would be last year. But it did, it did feel very, very good. The cars were much more competitive. It was a race. It was really a exciting race. A lot of drama, you know. Just loved it. Just loved it.

[00:34] Speaker A: We want to thank our presenting sponsor, Chavez Realty Development Apartments Business affairs real estate assessment at 626-4401-5545. That's 626-4401-7545. So, David, we started out, we had three great races start the season off. Then there was a little bit of a timeout. They come to America. We have a scenario where a 19 year old individual, not going to call him a kid anymore, guys winning in Formula One. So he's not a kid, he's young. Kimmy Antonelli did it again and he did it with style. And when you go out there and you beat the field, including the talented Lando Norris and Oscar Piastri. He beats Lando by 3.2 seconds and beats Oscar by 27 seconds. Yeah, that McLaren juggernaut, just a tremendous weekend for him. I guess from my standpoint, when I look at this and however you consume this and watch this, is that you just get this feeling that, you know, that first corner, everyone's going to hold

[01:43] Speaker B: their breath and they should.

[01:45] Speaker A: But once it was a calamity corner, once they get out of it and you see him get back in racing and, and he gets in his groove, he's very, very smooth.

[01:56] Speaker B: Yes. Please note that Oscar and Lando both came in first and second in the sprints. So that adds points to them. Small, small amount of points, but it points to them. It's only the top eight. So that, the fact that this, this even goes says more about Kimmy beating those two under those conditions than anything else. And of course, my story is Max. And he was, he was at one point, lap 13, what was it? Lap 13? Yeah, lap 13. The guy's in 13th place, had some difficulties. He spun out at one point in the first lap, lost some traction there, did not hit a thing, recovered came in, he was at 13th, 13th place on lap 13 and he finished fifth. And I think he would have even done better, but I believe his tires were shot and he just, it just wasn't There.

[02:58] Speaker A: Well, I would have this list. And you want to follow us at lvchecker Flag. At lvchecker Flag, for all the great insight that when the final starting grid was set and that Kimmy was on the pole on the. On the outside, and then Max was on the inside there, and they made a point about how he was positioning

[03:18] Speaker B: his car for launch slightly toward the

[03:21] Speaker A: left, and all that havoc that started and Charles LeClaire just on it coming out of there. It was like a fray. I mean, that was one of those, who can get to the corner first and who is going to maintain. And, you know, Kimmy got a little bit outside, and I. I noticed during the course, and I don't want to get too far ahead of this in regards to strategy and stuff, but when you start hearing this psychological part about how he's driving, trying to get in his head a little bit, these veterans telling the officials, oh, look at. He's off track, he's doing this, he's doing that, and he's just running ahead of him just like. And, you know, the Mercedes crew, very calm. Kimmy, that's enough wanting, you know, you don't have to push that hard. We got this, you know, keep it going. It's very intriguing to hear that inside baseball, if you will, because that is a game in regards to it. Max was the master of it with the McLaren. Guy is always telling them about how you see how rushed they drive. You know, Max has got this certain inflection when he's really angry about something or, you know, he's disappointed, what goes on. But again, David, I think, you know, the three Miami Vices for me would be the rain. And again, scorecard for meteorologists. It's tomorrow. Because what happened yesterday and the fact they had to move the race three hours up, that had worldwide implications.

[04:47] Speaker B: Sure.

[04:48] Speaker A: And they don't take that stuff lightly. You know, whenever you're doing a major sporting event or a major event where you have thousands of people and then not only that, the track and. And how it was going to work and what tires, and I know the Pirelli people. You know, those guys have their own world. They live in the tire and grip world.

[05:07] Speaker B: Right.

[05:07] Speaker A: Because the drivers are always complaining about the tires, and it's always a very key thing. And then you had the Max situation where you had the car not being up to the level of what he liked, and that being a discussion point for all that down period. Yes, but I don't want to hear any more about it now. When I watch Kimmy Antonelli and the success that he has that I really believe when you hear this other thing about the car and it may be true, sure. But the way I look at it is that week in and week out so far, he's taking care of business in a way like no one's seen. And at an age where no one has seen it, that's true.

[05:47] Speaker B: And we're talking about the car and its engineering and the new. The new package and the 50, 50 electric versus gas. I believe we're not taking into consideration the engineering of the human that's driving the car. They all have their styles, they all have their strengths. And when you change the machinery out from under them, they don't always adapt so quickly or so well. Sometimes they don't adapt at all. I think that they did do some tweaking in the three or in the couple of weeks that they had off, the several weeks that they had off because of the Saudi and Bahrain cancellations. And I think during that time they may have made the car more like last year's car than the new than. Than closer to being like the last year's car than the car they designed for this year. What I mean by that is I believe, if I'm not mistaken, that the engine is still the same size. It's a 1.6 liter engine, B6, I believe. And I think that, that they may have tweaked the electric part of it so that they don't have to harvest so much. They don't have to sit there and slowing down around these corners. And could. They could maybe spend more time like the car will harvest more electricity by itself rather than through the braking zones, that sort of thing. And which made it more competitive. Why do I say that? Because now Max came in fifth instead of the mid pack.

[07:22] Speaker A: Chuck Hayes with David Gould. Want to thank our executive producer who powers the fastest hour and radio coach Harvey Hyde football promotion of Nevada for all he does. You know, Dave, one of the things I always love when we get to the second segment and you start breaking down the results, the constructors, the driver standings, but I'm still looking at a thread of a storyline in regards to when you're the best team. And right now it is Mercedes.

[07:50] Speaker B: Absolutely.

[07:51] Speaker A: There is an issue internally, however, as much success as they're having, much like last year with Lando and Oscar, there's a little bit of an issue right now in regards to that organization. And it's something that can only play out week to week in regards to where things happen.

[08:11] Speaker B: What Would that be?

[08:12] Speaker A: Well, we'll talk about this when we come back from our break and we have an opportunity to look at the standings because when you see someone at the top of the heap and the one that's at the top of the heap is not the one that's supposed to be at the top of the heap.

[08:27] Speaker B: Okay.

[08:28] Speaker A: There becomes some internal dialogue. And again, I always liken this to the valet on. When you go to any place, they always park the best car out front. So when you walk out to get your car damaged, not mine, I have to wait because you're coming. Oh, Mr. Gould, nice to see you.

[08:45] Speaker B: Right.

[08:46] Speaker A: And we'll have it right for you. Well, that's what's going on right now. So I want to make sure we hit the timeframe. Chuck Hayes with David Gould. We're talking Formula one. We appreciate you staying with us as we talk about this because so much is going on in the world. We have the opportunity to know that there's going to be another break and they're going to come back on Sunday, May 24th in Montreal. Of course, that is a huge weekend in motorsports. It used to be Monaco right along with Indy and then Charlotte, the 600 for NASCAR.

[09:22] Speaker B: Sure.

[09:22] Speaker A: Well, they decided and I don't know, maybe it's because of Lewis's social schedule that he has to spend the weekend getting ready for the. For the Met Gala.

[09:32] Speaker B: Oh, you're killing.

[09:33] Speaker A: I would have think that that might be something. Last year we saw him pull into the Met gala, of course. And he'll be paying attention. Yeah. Well, again, I mean, why would he drop off? I mean, I'm sure he wants. He had a great time, you know, so we want to stay with that. Chuck Hayes with David Gould. Follow us at LV. Checkered Flag. LV Checkered Flag. We come back. David will give you the updates on constructors standings and results. Welcome back. Segment two, checkered flag report. Yeah, we've had some upgrades. The checkered flag report. Chuck Hayes with David Gould. We're talking in Formula one. And David, one of the things we talked about was that the sprint race was going to tell a lot of regards to where things were going to be at. And that sprint race you had a situation where, as you mentioned, Lando and Oscar were dominant. Ler and Ferrari was third. George Russell in the Mercedes was fourth. Max Verstappen was fifth in the Red Bull and Kimmy got a penalty and ended up at 6. Lewis was 7th, Pierre Gasly with 8th. Isaac Hajar was nice and Franco Cola Pinto was 10th. From your standpoint, leading into qualifying. And this was really the key in regards to getting everybody back together. From what you saw and what you're seeing, you had that McLaren spark again.

[10:55] Speaker B: Yeah. Well, you can't argue with success. That's what they say. And McLaren. McLaren certainly did it well in the sprint. Now, we have to remember that the sprint is a race within a race. It's about 30 minutes long, 100 kilometers. You mandatory pit stops are not. Or excuse me, pit stops aren't mandatory. And tire changes are not really advisable because it just doesn't make that much of a difference in a race this short. So you can see that without those things in play, who ends up on top? And Lando did well. Oscar did well, Charles did well. Max did okay, came in fifth. George Russell came in fourth. So these guys. And Kimmy, the winner of it all, came in sixth. Those are the only.

[11:47] Speaker A: He would have been better with the penalty.

[11:49] Speaker B: Well, that's.

[11:49] Speaker A: He got his. He got a line. You know, again, you gotta. Cannot. You can't pick up those penalties. It's just, It's a killer in regards to this thing. You can be running great, Right. And you have a off road incident or you come on to the pit road the wrong way or leave the wrong way. And they're getting very much to be a lot stick, you know, sticklers. And then also the giving up of positions.

[12:13] Speaker B: Yes.

[12:13] Speaker A: Which caused. Almost like caused accident in the. In the big race on Sunday. Yes. I'm thinking back to who that was, but took a spot and then goes, oh, I got to give it back. And just like slowed the whole field down so that they could get by. But continue on. In regards to your analysis here. Yeah.

[12:31] Speaker B: And to your point, Charles LeClaire lost 20 seconds. 20 seconds in penalty because he left the field. He left the track multiple times. And it was not necessary. That was the.

[12:46] Speaker A: That's what, that's what they said.

[12:47] Speaker B: That's what he said. It was not necessary for him to do that. So that. And then, of course, Max got dinged five seconds for coming out of the pits and crossing over. I would call it the horn, but it's the white line that guides you back. It's the on ramp.

[13:01] Speaker A: Can I tell you something today when on my way to commute.

[13:03] Speaker B: Yeah.

[13:04] Speaker A: I was very aware of that line today on the freeway. I'm going from the. From the 110 north to the 105 eastbound. It is my merge line there. I was like, oh, no, they're watching. I can't be. I can't get that call. How about when they call from the pits and they tell you you screwed up?

[13:20] Speaker B: I'm sure he wasn't happy with. But he had done so well. And of course Charles screwed up so badly that it really didn't make a difference.

[13:29] Speaker A: He did not like the tires he had on. Remember when he got those tires, he was asking him about their strategy.

[13:34] Speaker B: Yes.

[13:35] Speaker A: He's like, you might want to tell me, you might want to listen to what I have to say.

[13:38] Speaker B: Right. He, well, he has the gravitas to do that. Four time world champion. He can do that.

[13:45] Speaker A: Hey, I want to make sure, I want to get this plug in before we get to this thing because you're going to go through these, these rankings. Chavez Realty Development, they're our presenting sponsor. Apartments business affairs, real estate assessment at 6264-4154-5626-4401-5545 okay, David, let's take us through the results of the Miami Grand Prix and man, everyone's happy in Miami. The crypto.com Miami Grand Prix@ Miami Gardens.

[14:15] Speaker B: Yes. Well, by now everybody knows Kimmy Antonelli took it all. He did it in 1 hour 33 minutes 19 seconds. Landon Norris came in second. Oscar Piastri came in third. Oscar was 27, 7 seconds back, which is a long, long time. George Russell came in fourth, 43 seconds back. Max Verstappen came in fifth. Lewis Hamilton came in sixth. Almost, almost a whole minute back. Franco colapinto came in seventh. Charles Leclaire came in eighth. Carlos Sans came in ninth. Alexander Albon came in 10th. Oliver Behrmann with Haas came in 11th. Gabriel Bortoletto without, he came in 12th. Esteban Ocon 13th, Lynnblad 14th, Fernando Alonzo 15th. Sergio Perez 16th, Lance Droll 17th, Valerie Botas 18th and Nico Hulkenberg, Liam Lawson, Pierre Gasly and IJ Hajar were all DNF. Gasly had gearbox failure and it really screwed him up. He ended up doing a cartwheel. Hulkenberg had a fire in the sprint race, so he didn't even start. And the other two, which. No, the other one was Isaac Hajar who DQ'd because he, he crashed into the wall. He, I think he got a little sloppy.

[15:49] Speaker A: Little misjudgment.

[15:50] Speaker B: Yeah, a little misjudgment.

[15:51] Speaker A: Man, did you see him if he had a drum?

[15:53] Speaker B: Yeah, he was.

[15:54] Speaker A: I would like to got that drum track because man, his hands were pounding that.

[15:58] Speaker B: Yeah, he was really upset and you know, hey man, you gonna be in this you're gonna, you're gonna drive with Max for Red Bull. Come on.

[16:06] Speaker A: All right, so when we look at this and we look at that result, which is again, phenomenal for Kimmy and the team, then we go to Constructors and we have that situation where you have, from an award standpoint of where they really count it all. And Constructors is really a tremendous honor. It means team. And for those people out there, know, they're basically 11 teams with two drivers a piece. And so they have 11 rankings. A top 11. Take it away, David. Because it's very telling.

[16:45] Speaker B: Yeah. Well, Mercedes is well in the lead with 180 points. Ferrari right behind him. Not right behind him, but 110 points. McLaren is in third with 94, which when you think about it, Mercedes has doubled McLaren's points. Last year's. Last year's champion. Yeah. Last year's Constructors champion, Red bull Racing has 30 points. Big drop. Alpine has 23, Haas has 18, Red Bull has 14. Williams five. Two for Audi, Cadillac and Austin Martin. Zip. And I can't, I'll take Cadillac. I gotta cut him some slack. But Austin Martin, come on. This is, this, this something's. This is a mess. I mean, they can't, they can't even get out of the garage sometimes.

[17:32] Speaker A: You know, when you look at, at HOS at 18 and the Racing Bulls at 14. The game within the game on the lower, on the lower end here, Williams will be better. Audi and Cadillac and Aston Martin, three major brands.

[17:47] Speaker B: Yep.

[17:47] Speaker A: You know, right now the major stories about Audi, Cadillac and Aston Martin are how great their merch are.

[17:53] Speaker B: Yeah. And how great they look.

[17:55] Speaker A: Right. That's what I'm saying. I mean, you see that and it's a matter of like, okay, well, this is hip to wear because these are three great brands. But right now, without those, Mercedes are just dominant. So here's the question I have for you, David, as, as we look at this, and it's not anything I take lightly because of the fact that when you have these standings in regards to where things are, it is something to look at. Mr. Antonelli with a hundred points, George Russell with 80. Now George Russell had to have breathed a major psy. Exhaled when Lewis Hamilton left to go to Ferrari. And he said, I'm finally going to be the guy here.

[18:47] Speaker B: Right.

[18:48] Speaker A: This is my, my team. You see it in drive to survive. It's neat. Young kid comes in. George is like confidence off the charts.

[18:59] Speaker B: Yeah.

[19:00] Speaker A: You know, again, now the roles are reversed a little bit. Right. And every day that Kimmy is Dominant like he is is another day that George maybe is doubting himself and maybe does he want to stay at Mercedes? I mean, I would imagine right now that it's not going to, it's not going to get better for him.

[19:24] Speaker B: No.

[19:24] Speaker A: Antonelli's on a, on a. You know, he's the young guy, he's having success and I don't know, it seems like the McLaren temperament now, have you watched those guys interact together at the end of the race? Yeah, it seems like Lando and Oscar, once the championship was divided. Right. And now they can race freely, if you will. The pressure's off it a bit.

[19:45] Speaker B: Right. I think racing is momentum driven as far as. No pun intended, when it comes to the psychology of the drivers. George probably thought, you know, I'm the guy. Let me show you how it's done, kid. He's great. But now he's won three in a row and if he keeps this up, he could get a world championship his very first year. Second year, second year, second year. At 19 years old. That would be a. I think George might have to go to a shrink or something. He might, he might have a nervous breakdown because this every. These. George has never had a world championship. Six or seven race wins, multiple podiums, the guy's a great driver, but my God, man, that's gotta hurt.

[20:37] Speaker A: Well, right now, Kimmy Antonelli with 100 points, George Russell with 80. Leclaire Ferrari has 59. Lando McLaren 51. Lewis Hamilton tied with Lando for 51. Oscar with 43. Now that's a little bit of a gap there, 60 plus. And then you have Max with 26. I would have never believed that I know. At all. Ollie Biermann was 17. Pierre Gasly, Alpine After a tough day, 16. Liam Lawson Racing Bulls with 10. Colapinto Alpine was 7. Arvid Lindblad Racing Bulls 4. Isaac Hadjar, Red Bull Racing 4. He's got to do better to cover Max off. And then you got Carlos signs with 4, Gabriel Bartoletto from Audi with 2. Estepon Ocon from Williams with 1. And then no score, 0.0. Nico Hulkenberg, Valtteri Botas, Sergio Perez, Fernando Alonso and Lance Stroll. And I guess the question I would have in my mind as we're rolling towards our. Our next break.

[21:37] Speaker B: Yeah.

[21:38] Speaker A: Is that. How long does Fernando Alonzo want to do this? A guy that was one of the best in the world, a guy that is getting a nice paycheck, but also has a business of his own. Chuck Hayes with David Gould. Follow us at LVchecker Flag@LVchecker flag. We're going to shake, take a box, box, box. We come back, we'll talk more Formula One. Welcome back to session number three, Vegas Checkered flag report, Chuck Hayes with David Gould. We're talking Formula One and we want to thank our presenting sponsor, Chavez Realty Development Apartments business affairs real estate assessment at 626-440-1545. That's Chavez Realty Development. 626440, 1545. So yesterday was the debut for the first time of Formula Formula One in association with Apple tv, in association with imax.

[22:33] Speaker B: Yes.

[22:34] Speaker A: To be able to let consumers and fans of F1 go watch the race at their favorite IMAX theater. I took advantage of that opportunity thanks to the good people at imax. I want to say thank you to Kristen Stark for inviting me to go to Universal Studios in Hollywood and watch it at the Universal IMAX. And you know, they had a Formula 1 McLaren show car out front and a couple hot McLaren race cars. And then the opportunity to see this. And this was something that, you know, race Fans are hardy. F1 fans get up early. They thought they could sleep in a little bit on Sunday, but they moved it back three hours. So it was a little bit of a later arriving crowd.

[23:17] Speaker B: Yeah.

[23:18] Speaker A: With a 9:45, 10:10am West coast time, lights out. But once it filled up, it was a capacity in the IMAX theater, probably about 340. They probably had about 285 people that were in there and all representing, wearing their, their colors, much like soccer teams. Did you, did you able to watch that?

[23:40] Speaker B: Did you feel, I mean, obviously you were engaged, but did you look around and did you, did people feel engaged?

[23:45] Speaker A: 100% use their phones to track the race, their favorite driver. And you can hear when a pass is made of a team, there's a round of applause. Not so much yelling and screaming.

[23:58] Speaker B: Yeah.

[23:58] Speaker A: But actual hand clapping, which was kind of interesting. Got a very nice kind of golf esque, if you will. Not that, that, but the coverage in the IMAX and the impact, it was much like being watching F1 the movie.

[24:13] Speaker B: Yes.

[24:14] Speaker A: Very close to that. Very. Got that same kind of vibe, same kind of sound.

[24:19] Speaker B: Right.

[24:20] Speaker A: Except that you were dealing with announcers on the broadcast for the entire time. When in the movie you would have long gaps of no play by play, you would just have movie dialogue, drama in car. One thing I would like to like to see is I would like to see more in car from other drivers other than just certain ones. And you know, you get it from Max, you get it from Kimmy, you get it from the McLarens. But you don't hear Fernando Alonzo or Lance Stroll.

[24:52] Speaker B: Yeah. You're, you know, you're not hearing. They like Apple's. Apple's gonna decide who's the star. Apple's gonna decide. And that's my big complaint with them is that I think mid pack and, and toward the end they're not, they're not covering these guys so much and it's getting, it's getting a little irritating.

[25:11] Speaker A: Well, when you have that long of a gap between first and second and there is a lot of great mid pack. But those battles in the back that we spoke about and those storylines now, you know, they're, they're not wanting to, I mean they'll hone in on maybe somebody had a nice pass or a good setup or maybe there's the fastest lap on the board. And it's something that, from a coverage wise that would be. But I think one of the things I do like is that I can now go back and watch the race on Apple tv.

[25:45] Speaker B: Yeah.

[25:46] Speaker A: And I can see a quick highlight reel.

[25:48] Speaker B: Yes.

[25:49] Speaker A: I can see longer form. I can watch the sprint race again. I can look at other things. And then the other part about this is true. There's going to be more original programming based upon how this goes from city to city.

[26:02] Speaker B: Yeah.

[26:03] Speaker A: I think there's gonna be more story lines that are developed. Again, I think that there's some getting used to in regards to the personalities because we've been really spoiled by Sky TV and ESPN in regards to what we got used to. Their, their, their thing.

[26:19] Speaker B: Yeah.

[26:20] Speaker A: And now that there's an adjustment on it. But I think the helicopter work. It's the same folks. It's, it's. The camera crews is really outstanding and it's a challenge, especially when you have a weather issue that was going to come up and they did not know exactly where they were going to have to go with this and know that they were going to be evacuated. And early on, before they took the, the formation lap.

[26:46] Speaker B: Yes.

[26:47] Speaker A: They did reconnaissance. They cleared the stands in Miami. There was a torrential downpour. I kept watching it on social media, just saying this is not going to go good, go well. We're having to clear everybody.

[26:59] Speaker B: Right.

[27:00] Speaker A: And even though they are moving up three, it was very tropical in regards to that. So we're looking at a track that was completely green.

[27:07] Speaker B: Yes.

[27:08] Speaker A: In regards to that. And then of course that puts the pressure on the Pirellis. And then I did you watch the parade lap. Did you see the formation lap? Did see what Kimmy did?

[27:18] Speaker B: No. Well, Kimmy was trying to warm up his tires.

[27:22] Speaker A: He blasted out of there like he was going.

[27:24] Speaker B: First of all, he was going very slow. Yeah, he was holding everybody up and it seemed a little bit strange, but he's the guy who dictates the pace and that's all there is to it. But he was going pretty slow. And then he just hammered it and it was. It was like he really wanted to warm those tires up or do something. But I don't know if that was actually the wise way to do it because I think you lose a little bit of your use, lose a little bit of your rubber trying to get, you know, get that on there. It just doesn't make a lot of sense. But I did see it.

[27:55] Speaker A: But it was like almost like a psychological mind game that he decided because Max was the guy. Remember we talked about this last week about what it would be like for Max to be behind you and how your whole goal would be to run wide and block and do all that if he was in the middle of the pack.

[28:11] Speaker B: Right.

[28:11] Speaker A: But this is just getting to the formation lap to get to be settled before the lights went out. And of course, the tag you were clock clicks, you know, to get everybody underway and we see the Louis Vuitton trophy with the hard rock.

[28:25] Speaker B: Little mind came there.

[28:26] Speaker A: So it's good. I mean, that's a psychological ploy, but I think those are the kind of things that are the future of this. To get more inside these guys heads a little bit and know what they're about. And so that's studying. And believe me, there are people that parse every lap of F1 who are covering it like they do. And I want to compliment everyone that's on social media for their pictures and their corner shots. Because I just know on Instagram where you see people that have unique angles who sit in the stands and David, you and I know from, from being in Vegas that personally you can only see certain things and other people have different viewpoints and if they roll their camera and their footage and you see Max's spin and you know if he had won, it would be the spin and win. Like Danny Sullivan. Was that not phenomenal?

[29:16] Speaker B: That was. I could not believe he recovered from that. First of all, he didn't hit anything, lost it, didn't hit anything. And you know, the. The track was not ideal. He was upset. It was just. It was just kind of crazy. But he. God, my God. From 13th place all the way back and. And finishing in fifth. And I think he would have been higher had he had. I think he would have been podium in some way or form had his tires not given out, because at some point he looked like he was. He was basically getting defensive to hold the position rather than getting aggressive. The tires were losing it.

[29:50] Speaker A: The way he powered out of that move after he spun and kept going with all those guys coming down on him, and he was right in the middle of it, and those guys took some. Some great evasive action. Chuck Hayes with David Gould. Follow us at lvchecker. Flag at LV Checker Flag. Yes, David.

[30:05] Speaker B: No, to your point. Back to the. Back to the theater experience. I can see Apple reviving theaters, reviving the go to the theater experience, which has been on the ropes for many, many years now because of streaming television and the Internet. But I. I can see Apple kind of reviving that in a way so that you're really at the race, but not quite at. You know, it's as close as the races you're gonna get without actually getting on an airplane and going. And that. That's actually genius. I think that's actually very, very smart.

[30:44] Speaker A: Well, the spirit of it, whenever you go with a group of people, you're gonna have fans of one team, fans of the other.

[30:50] Speaker B: Right.

[30:51] Speaker A: They represent, they cheer, they get excited. There is that communal experience. And if you're home, and I love being home, watching Formula one and being able to just say, wow, this is. I'm locked in. You know, I've got a cold beverage or two. And being able to just lock into that experience is tremendous. How the. How the delivery method is, and then also what I would call the pre. The race and the post, where you're really digesting it. And of course, from our standpoint, we're trying to do the best job possible to really let everybody know we're not coming off as experts. We're coming off. We want people to join the tribe, if you will.

[31:33] Speaker B: Yes.

[31:34] Speaker A: Because there's people that get intimidated by motorsports, but we all know that you could pick a lucky number or you could pick a favorite color or a favorite car, especially for younger kids who are coming into this. And I think you're seeing that in regards to some of the merch that's out there, so that it becomes something that's very special.

[31:54] Speaker B: Are you saying that we're men of the people?

[31:56] Speaker A: We. Well, obviously, you are.

[31:58] Speaker B: We are of the people.

[31:58] Speaker A: You are. I watch you among your people. In fact, David, let me tell you something. I sent you a picture yesterday. Yes, and I'm glad you're taking time out of your busy schedule from promoting the Devil Wears product, too. I looked in the lobby. I'm walking by the lobby, coming back from the concession stand and I look at. I go, wait, David, you didn't tell me you're going to be here.

[32:19] Speaker B: Yes, of course.

[32:19] Speaker A: I walked over there and you just ignored me because you with some bigger names.

[32:23] Speaker B: That's true. And I do. I've done that since I was in high school. Ignored people because I was with bigger names.

[32:28] Speaker A: Chuck, Hazel. David, go. We're talking Formula one. It's so exciting, man. A clean, safe race. We had some action. We had a car get upside down. We had a car going to the wall. We had a car. Nico Hulkenberg on that lap before the sprint race. I imagine what could be going through his. That does not make for a good weekend when your car catches fire just to go out there on a vacation.

[32:51] Speaker B: I know he couldn't get it out of the garage.

[32:56] Speaker A: Multi million dollars, David. And you. And you say, hey, what could happen? You know, again?

[33:02] Speaker B: Well, brake fires happen. They're not that uncommon. But this happens. What's going on with these cars happens way too much.

[33:09] Speaker A: All I know is that a race driver has to be in the right frame of mind. Yeah, we saw it in again. We're going to pub. The movie. F1. The movie on how people get ready mentally to do what they're going to do to run 57 laps of. Of activity on a street course that they keep telling you it's going to rain, rain's coming and you're sitting there going, well, do I have the right tires? And what's our strategy? And all the good things that go on.

[33:35] Speaker B: The announcers don't even know.

[33:37] Speaker A: They didn't know. And they were arguing about their cell coverage and things. So we're talking to F1. We come back, we're going to be in our final segment. Chuck Hayes with David Gould. We're talking to F1 and we'll be talking about Montreal from the north. Chuck Hayes with David Gould at lv. Checkered flag. Stay with us. Welcome back. Final segment, Vegas. Checkered flag report. Yes, the checkered flag report. We're talking F1. And David, we love Vegas because that's where we ultimately want to head. 15 freeway coming over the hill. We see the light. So we know it's going to be a great, great weekend. When we do that, when they come in the weekend of November 20th, 21, 22nd, we want to thank our presenting sponsor, Chavez Realty Development Apartments Business affairs real estate assessment. 6264-415456-26441-5545. And coach Harvey Hyde, Football promotions of Nevada, who powers the fastest hour in radio. David, you know, whenever there's a sprint race, I always like it because it's another activity to judge what's going on.

[34:43] Speaker B: Sure.

[34:44] Speaker A: And I was a little bit confused because they make such a big deal about after the race you got to go weigh in before you, you know, get to the right podium, if you will and see what your weight loss was and how much fuel you had. And I didn't know this until I researched it this weekend is that they don't fill the car up no fuel wise for the sprint race with a full load on it. No. So you're starting out racing on a half load to get going and knowing how your tire grips. Now, I'm sure a lot of drivers have tremendous feel and they've been in the sim where it's half loads and the whole deal. But from your standpoint, when you look at that, the amount of information we said, what, over 300 plus sensors on the car to be able to tell you what's going on as well as that guy in the seat who has the ultimate feel.

[35:38] Speaker B: Yeah. It's a, it's a strange animal compared to the regular, the regular racing. The, as you said, the tanks are half empty. So they've got, they're starting at a much lighter thing. And, and that means the tire wear is going to be different. That means that that car is going to handle differently than it would have in the beginning of a major race with a full tank. It's, it's, there's a lot of variables there and a lot of guys, as I said, how do you engineer a human, how do you engineer yourself to gear yourself for that kind of race and then for a completely different set of circumstances. And if you don't think it, it is a big difference to have a full, full tank of gas and only no time for really for, for pit stops.

[36:28] Speaker A: You know the other thing I'm not the biggest fan of and you watch in the qualifying sessions how you take your pick to go with two hot laps, if you will. Yeah, I'd like to see him just get over it and just send out single car qualifying.

[36:43] Speaker B: Right.

[36:44] Speaker A: Because to me someone's always getting in the way. Some object may have come off of the other car and you're in the middle of a, of A. Of a pole run and you get waved off because somebody did something or, you know, a. A local. A local caution came out.

[37:01] Speaker B: You only have so many laps on those tires.

[37:03] Speaker A: Right.

[37:04] Speaker B: They don't give you more tires.

[37:05] Speaker A: Right. And then you move on into the next round and then the next round of being pushed down in quality. But I would like to see that change, and I don't understand why it is that they do it that way. They just have. I've watched NASCAR struggle with it also.

[37:20] Speaker B: Yeah.

[37:20] Speaker A: In regards to that, I saw a situation at Fontana one time where they were waiting to the very last ending of the qualifying session to go out and do a lap, and cars couldn't get out of the. Out of pit road because it was a. A traffic jam.

[37:36] Speaker B: Oh, yeah.

[37:37] Speaker A: And, you know, that's the other part that, you know, let's compliment the crews to do these 2.2 second pit stops. Who in the midst of it, they jump out there in their shorts and. And stand in front and then get it in and get out and they go out there to combine, compete, and, you know, the driver's expectations of that about how that happens. So they go from this course in Miami. We've got two weeks off. They'll be going up to Montreal Sunday, May 24, and of course, it'll be after Indy Cooler has prevailed. So we'll get to 500 in the morning and then Montreal, and it's a very fast race course. And that last corner where that wall just juts out at you. Yeah, boy. It's like almost. The dart wasn't dark.

[38:19] Speaker B: Wasn't there a problem there last year?

[38:21] Speaker A: I think somebody always. Somebody got some type of. Of deal in regards to that.

[38:26] Speaker B: Somebody got clips.

[38:27] Speaker A: Very, very fast, fast racetrack in Montreal. But again, a celebration of North American Formula one. We got Miami, we got Montreal, then we're gonna have Austin in October and then Vegas in November.

[38:41] Speaker B: Yeah.

[38:41] Speaker A: From your standpoint now, with two weeks now off after this great momentum for. For going on, where do you see the pressure points in regards to this? We're going to be a minute to go in this. So, David, I want you to point out, if you were the czar of F1 and you were calling everybody in for a meeting.

[39:00] Speaker B: Yes.

[39:00] Speaker A: Who would you want to be talking to?

[39:02] Speaker B: I'd want to be talking to Toto Wolf. That's one of the major guys. I'd have to have some representative from the drivers, if not the. All the drivers themselves in some way or form, because there has to be. Everyone's got to be on the same page. And I think there's a lot of with the new cars, there's a lot of all over the place thinking and nobody knows where. Do you point the finger at you point the finger at the car? Do you point the finger at the driver not being able to handle the car? And everybody's theoretically has the same car. So it's got to be the driver's problem. There's, it's, it's so bringing all those guys in matters.

[39:43] Speaker A: This has been Chuck Hayes with David Gould. Thank you for staying tuned. We're going to take this break now and say have a Great Weekend at LVCheckered Flag at LV Checkered Flag. Join us again next week. Thank you so much.

[39:55] Speaker B: Take care.