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What's going on, everybody?
Welcome to the Monday night
version of Sunday Night CrossFit Talk.
It's going to be a little
bit abbreviated tonight,
but we're going to wrap up
the CrossFit Games Masters
competition that happened this weekend.
Hit a couple news notes just
to get you our normal
weekly show for the week.
But it's Monday night.
We're back from the road.
Some of us are pretty tired.
I know I am.
But we want to wrap up
everything for everybody
and kind of talk about the weekend.
But before we jump into that,
it's kind of a riff,
but it's not in a negative direction.
So I want a couple minutes
to talk about how when we
go to these competitions,
and especially on the big stage, we...
We get wrapped up in the
minutia of the competition.
I do it.
Carolyn does it.
Jamie does it.
And we say, oh my gosh,
the judges missed this.
And oh my gosh,
the programming could be that.
But I want to point out that
we had four hundred and
fifty athletes in Birmingham, Alabama,
all thirty five and older,
showing the world what
CrossFit can do for people.
We had people seventy plus.
doing muscle ups.
We had,
we had sixty five plus women
ripping off muscle ups like
it was so cool to see these
beast athletes take this
methodology and show what
could be done with it.
And so many people there
give it getting their first opportunity,
just like Jamie,
to go to the CrossFit Games
and to soak in this this opportunity.
We all suffered a tragedy four weeks ago,
and this showed us what
CrossFit is really about.
And what that means is that
it's something special.
It's something that we should hold on to.
It is a step forward.
It felt a little bit normal
this weekend because people
were doing amazing things
and showing what all is possible.
And I just wanted to take a
moment to applaud
everybody for doing this.
Yes, things went wrong.
Yes, things could have been better.
This was the first year
people had this opportunity
to put this on and it
wasn't going to fly
seamlessly out the gate.
But I'll tell you what,
running three floors pretty
much on schedule with one
minor ten minute delay
throughout the entire
weekend is pretty freaking phenomenal.
We can nitpick other things,
but four hundred fifty
athletes got to show what they can do.
And we've got to celebrate that.
And we've got to move forward.
And and because we cannot lose this.
CrossFit is too important to all of us.
as a sport as a methodology
to lose it and so I just
wanted to point out it was
freaking awesome and I
don't know how many dms I
got from people saying it
was so cool that I actually
got to sit down and watch
the masters I've never
really been able to do that
because it's either been
midweek or while the elites
are going on and I haven't
been able to do that but
this weekend I got to sit
down and enjoy it all
and uh I think that's really
freaking cool yeah how
about this comment from
lynn so lynn says uh yep
scott it finally convinced
my dad to join crossfit at
he was cheering for joe
ames the whole time so cool
so cool right that's what it's about
What I loved is the fight
from the fifty five plus
athletes saying that they
thought they scaled it back too much.
They wanted the opportunity
to show what they could do.
And I thought that was.
But they all said like, hey,
we voiced our concerns and
we're cool this year.
It's the first year they're doing it.
We'll learn from it.
Maybe next year we move a
little bit closer to what
we think we can accomplish
because they want to do
handstand pushups.
They want to do handstand walks.
They want to at least have
them at the end of a
workout to show them as a
separator and a differentiator.
That's fair.
I think the end of the
workout is where you put
those higher skills for sure for them.
Yeah.
Yeah.
They did that with the bar
muscle ups yesterday in the
sixty five plus where it
was all chest to bar until the last four.
And then they had to do four
bar muscle ups and everybody,
the people that had it got
to show it off.
And the the crowd was so
loud when the sixty five
plusers were hitting bar muscle ups.
It was so cool.
So that's my little piece
that I just wanted to get out.
Just great.
What happened this weekend
and help us move forward
because I think it was a
pretty cool show.
Yeah.
Larry Young says people always complain.
I thought it was great.
um hell of a performance by
jamie this weekend wish
that there would have been
a true long chipper for her
to smash instead of one of
the strength tests true but
she she faced the tests
that were given to her and
she fought like hell
through all of them and
she's the fourth fittest
forty year old in the world
which is pretty awesome uh
cory leonard I'm yelling at
my tv when the
Crystal,
this was my husband's fourth year
at the games,
and this was by far our best
overall experience.
It was awesome.
That's great to hear.
I'm not going to lie.
I had mixed reviews in the
back as I was hanging out
with the athletes.
Yeah.
Some good, some bad.
I would say the majority was good.
The majority was good.
And even those that say bad
said there were some good
elements from this that they took away.
And I think Dex put it
really well in his story.
The pageantry was not there from the games,
right?
But the way it was run,
as efficiently as it was run,
was pretty good.
The three floors gave people
the opportunity to go back
and forth and watch
different workouts
throughout the day and not
be stuck watching the same
thing over and over again.
They all said the crowds...
Those are the biggest crowds
they've seen at an event
because in Madison,
many people didn't come in to watch them.
And here they had crowds
around every floor throughout the day.
Yeah,
I think it's only going to get bigger.
Like this was the first year that...
They separated,
and I think there's some
learning stuff that I'm
sure will come with this,
but I expect it only to grow from here.
And I think a lot of people
in our community got the
chance to watch the true
representation of the
Masters this weekend,
where in normal years,
a lot of them would have
taken a break during the
Masters events and then
gone shopping and stuff like that.
Um,
so while the experience for the
athletes may have been
different in the sense that
they're not competing on
the same floor as, you know,
this and that person, I think, um,
the growth of this can
actually be better in the long run.
Yeah,
I think if you had an opening ceremony,
some things like that to
add some of the pageantry back to this.
But again, it's year one.
It's three,
four weeks after the tragic
event of the CrossFit Games.
They had to make tough
decisions coming into this.
But I think that the proof
of concept is now there.
And maybe you get more sponsors.
Maybe you don't run the
teens and the masters on
the same weekend in different places.
either run them in the same
place or find two different
dates to run them.
Um, I think that's,
that was a lesson learned for sure.
Um, Linda Jerry, uh,
and Jamie on that bike,
you better give tips, girl hurt.
Yeah.
Craig asked, did you talk to Dave?
I did not see Dave.
Dave came in late on Friday.
I had left to come back and
do the wrap up show where
Ellie was doing the
interviews that evening.
I did talk to Don Fall, which was great.
Great interaction there.
I talked to Becky Harsh a
lot over the weekend.
She's an amazing person and
great perspective.
But it was cool to see
CrossFit HQ there
supporting the Masters athletes.
Yeah.
I saw Dave twice, and I saw Baz twice.
Yeah.
Yeah,
I had a long talk with Boz because we
talked at the games and it
was nice to catch up and
see where he's at.
So that was cool, too.
Larry Young,
thank you so much for the super chat.
Four ninety nine.
Jamie's power clean
impressed the shit out of me.
Same here.
You crushed that.
Ninety percent.
That's crazy.
Yeah.
Cause like I was thinking
that you were going to
maybe hesitate before picking it up,
but you were,
you were aggressive in that
workout and you went for it.
It was, it was good.
Thank you.
So Aaron Frazier says,
too many athletes to do
both at the same venue.
This is what I'll say, Aaron.
They ran a team competition
at the exact same time that
had way more athletes than
would be the teen competitors.
You move that team competition out,
the teens in,
you probably have less athletes,
can use the same number of floors,
and you need less warm-up
space because the teams are
taking up a lot of the warm-up space.
because it was two and three person teams.
Yeah.
I feel like they bring a lot
of people to the party too.
It did.
And I feel like there was a
lot of like positive
comments and feedback about
that team aspect.
I personally just don't feel like
If this is supposed to be our games,
that's the place for it.
Like,
I think that should be at the legends
in December.
And that's where you highlight the teams.
And that's more of like the sh you know,
that's like the growing event, right?
Like you go there to get
experience like that.
I don't know that you should,
and I don't want to say water down the,
our games with this, but like,
it kind of felt like you were just trying,
it was almost like a money grab or like,
let's just throw more
people into this to like, make it bigger.
My optimistic guy says it
was a way at a safety net.
They weren't confident in
what the turnout would be.
So let's have this team
competition to make sure we
have X number more people
in the building.
But I think it showed that,
that there would be a good crowd.
the more people that watch
it and the more people that
get engaged to it like you
saw amazing like will morad
ain't far off the elites I
mean he's he just made it
last year that's seven
forty one in the standard
was an epic performance
yeah um cory leonard says
it felt like a test run to
see if masters team comp is feasible
I don't think it was really
run like a games team event.
I think it really was just a
safety net to get more,
more bodies in the building.
The one drawback I will say
to that is they did take up
a lot of the warm-up area.
And when they were back there,
it was chaotic.
And the people fighting for
the CrossFit Games should
have had preferential
treatment to the warm-up equipment.
And that was not happening
in what I observed.
Um,
and so that if you're bringing back a
teams for this,
they need to have a
separate warmup area or a
section to their own so
that the elite athletes can,
can get their warmups in.
Yeah.
Um, so yeah.
I mean,
I saw your show yesterday and
talking about the diluted, um,
volunteers, everything, and,
and clearly equipment was a
factor and was spread out amongst events.
And that was noticeable even
in the warmup area.
Um,
Not having,
and I know rowers weren't in
the competition and maybe
it was an equipment thing.
And the only cardio machine
there was the bike.
And when it was on the floor,
there was only two in the
background to be used.
Like it was like,
that's not good for
hundreds of people trying
to warm up in the back.
Or cool down.
Yes.
And it wouldn't be my first
piece of equipment that I
want to go on to.
I know.
Yeah.
They never have the bike erg too.
Like it's always the echo bike.
And I'm like, just give me a bike erg.
I just want to pedal nice and light.
So Saturday night show,
we went all through those events.
We finished up with the final event,
which was a heavy dumbbell thruster,
single arm, and bar muscle ups.
Yep.
Okay.
I don't, I can't remember the rep scheme.
It's all a blur in my head.
Eight, twelve, sixteen.
Yep.
Eight, twelve, sixteen.
And Bob and Joe have said
that they like ascending
rep schemes as opposed to descending.
What are your feelings about that?
It's fine.
They do seem to like that.
It does get programmed a lot like that.
And it
It can make it more of a
test to see like who can
hold on instead of like racing at the end,
which I kind of like.
I think it creates more
separation oftentimes when
there's an ascending rep scheme.
If you have that bigger set at the start,
some of the people that can
hang will do at the start.
And as they get fatigued,
those smaller sets just help them.
Being able to stay unbroken
on that last set or minimal
rest is where the game is played.
And I think it's important
to put ascending rep
schemes in your training or at a comp.
I think it's good.
love that event I thought it
was um fun to watch there
was people that had major
like they just hit major
walls in that event and um
you saw people go down the
singles on the bar muscle
ups failing bar muscle ups
um it was yeah I mean as a
last event that's what you
want so jamie I talked to
you right before this event
you were less than confident
And was that more coming off
the front squat,
which is not your strength
and having to sleep on that overnight?
Or were you truly like,
because you crushed the event, right?
There's not like,
so you were talking on the
show and you were like,
I think you even said like,
I mean, Carolyn corrected you,
but you were like, well,
Carolyn Klutz kind of has a chance.
There's a chance, right?
If she didn't... That's untrue.
I don't know if you looked at the points,
but last place got forty-three points.
Oh.
So they didn't adjust the
scoring fully to... Right.
So... I just... Basically,
I kind of knew I had no shot.
It didn't...
I guess I kind of did,
but I really had no shot, right?
So did they keep the exact
same point and then just
took out the last ten or
twenty athletes for your division?
They took out some,
but then you still had that.
The worst you got is
whatever was a twentieth place,
let's say.
Yeah, yeah.
extremely frustrating because like,
I feel like the cut should
have been before the front squat.
Like you should have earned,
you should have had enough
fitness to earn to show your strength.
And then I would have gotten
forty three points in the front squat.
And we'd have be having a
completely different conversation today.
Yeah.
Yeah,
because you have specialists that are
in the field that go in and
The semifinals already
pushed it that way that it
was stronger athletes that made it here.
I mean, you can see that just by,
I was like third, third,
and then going into out of semis, right?
Like the semis already
tested strength enough.
And that's why I was knocked
down in my placing,
even qualifying for the games.
Um, I,
I just don't know why they like kept
pushing that aspect.
here's my here's my big
overarching question it's
not about this workout but
like online qualifiers I've
I've hated them forever
right and I don't know what
the solution is but like
but you come in in twenty
whatever place from semis
haley mario is a backfill
in allison stall is a
backfill in you all end up
as top ten athletes at the
games because you're fitter
than everyone else
What are we missing in the
online versions of the
qualification that are
missing these people?
Because we almost missed
Haley and Allison even getting in.
I would say video review for one.
Yeah.
And I just think.
Haley, I mean, Haley's good.
Really?
Allison's pretty power output.
I denser gymnastics sets,
I think still are getting to her,
especially coming back postpartum.
Um,
and I think we saw that in the final
event with her.
Um, but Haley's great at gymnastics,
right?
Like she crushed the standard.
Um, and I, and I've said this for years,
Aaron and I talk about it a
like the bigger gymnastics
chippers and fitness in a way that like,
I mean,
there was a ton of CrossFit this weekend,
which was great.
But I do think like the sport is going,
has gone away from that a
little bit and they keep
trying to push the weights.
You saw it with,
you saw it with the women
getting time capped a lot.
Like,
Clearly,
people aren't fit enough because
you haven't pushed that.
They can move weight.
We saw it in the front squat.
They can move a shit ton of weight.
They can barely power clean up one eighty,
which is my ninety percent
when they're fatigued
because you don't make them
keep showing that you let
them be able to rest and
hide in these sets of
numbers and you don't push
the metabolic fitness.
You said time caps.
I was waiting for Carolyn to
blow up again.
I felt like I've been
negative too much on my, um,
programming and the program wasn't,
wasn't bad.
I liked, I mean,
I like nine out of the ten
events or personally, like for my,
my skills.
Um,
but just not the echo bike double under
one.
There, there,
there's some tweak ups I
would have made in terms of
the time caps just to allow
more of the female athletes to finish.
Um,
But I think you're like your
games was a different
experience than let's say
the individual programming
where I felt strength
wasn't really tested this year as much.
But for yours, yeah,
you could say that you
could have done definitely
more metabolic in the games
for or longer.
That longer time domain was was missing.
Yeah.
And I get,
I get that's going to be hard in
a comp this large with this
many athletes with three floors.
Like I do get that.
Like,
it's going to be really hard to make
a twenty to thirty minute even.
I mean,
especially like a forty minute
workout without doing heats
of like one hundred and twenty at a time.
Right.
And I mean,
it'd have to be a big outdoor thing.
And that
you're not going to do that
right now in Birmingham
with things that just happened.
People are going to complain about safety.
So, I mean, yeah, things, they were,
their hands were tied a little bit,
I would say.
so the last workout I
thought was one of the best
workouts of the weekend um
I think it showed a lot um
I didn't get to see a lot
of it live because I was
stuck in the back because I
was the only person doing
bts um sunday so I was back
there a lot um
I did get I did hear a lot
from the women talking
about the time caps carolyn
about how like and that
they they were told that
the only people that tested
were men the events and
that they felt like it
showed in the time caps and
that a lot of the women
could not finish a lot of the events
And,
and that makes for a boring race when
everybody just finishes on the floor,
you know, and at the end of the day,
if you want to be a sport,
you better be spectator friendly.
Like you just, as an athlete, like you,
you hope to finish every event, like,
you know, on, on the finish mat.
Like, it's just frustrating when, you know,
out of ten events, let's say half of them,
most of the field,
three quarters of the field
sometimes didn't finish.
Um,
I just feel like that would
be frustrating.
I still feel like they
missed the mark on the finish lines.
Even that last event,
why didn't we not run to the middle?
Maybe they were scared of
people running into each
other from both sides.
But most people just stop at
their finish line.
Yeah.
I didn't know if people were
still standing under the
rig because people were
just walking around during
bar muscle-ups.
I didn't know who was done.
Yeah, because you could be backed up.
You could be hunched over, tired.
You're failing or you're resting,
and you don't know where
you are in the race,
plus you don't know what's
behind you on the other side of the rig.
Lynn says,
I can volunteer to be a demo athlete,
and those time caps will be very generous,
I promise.
I even brought up carolyn
like carolyn you've been a
demo athlete you weren't
you were available to run
through some workouts if
they wanted a demo athlete
there were lots of athletes
available that could have
done that and would have
loved the opportunity to to
make relationships and
those need to be those time
caps would need to be set
prior though not like um
not there like because I'm
assuming their schedule is
built out you know months
in advance and then they
would need someone to test
the workouts months in
advance that they have um
but how many people trust
in that won't leak
available right like you
are you don't you're not a
part of a training camp you
you've been a trusted
person from rogue it's from
castro all these people why
couldn't they have called
on you to do that
Maybe they'll think about
people in the future.
It just is hard with all of
the people associated with
training camps and stuff
like that to pick the
people to test the workouts
that aren't going to give
information to people.
Larry Young said, I agree,
but also very glad we got
to see an actual strength
test out of ten.
Bob said they had a long one,
but the facility didn't
want that many athletes to
do it because they worried
about the field.
So overall thoughts on the weekend.
Jamie, did you have a good experience?
Yeah.
We're proud of you.
Thanks.
It was fun seeing you out there.
And I love that you give,
you lay it all out there
and you can tell every single event,
regardless of what it is.
I always knew where you are
because you had the tape shoulder.
I was looking for you at the start line.
I'm like, Okay, where's Jamie now?
Oh, there she is.
She is.
I don't match my uniform.
Well,
everyone else is wearing like the
same outfit.
So yeah,
you got to separate yourself there.
Jamie brought back the
Reebok colors one strip of
KT tape at a time.
The bionic woman.
Carolyn,
what was overall thoughts on the weekend?
Did you enjoy watching?
Yeah, I mean,
like I've never been as
invested in the Masters
division as I was this year.
This is by far the most I watch.
I got to like really watch
and then was following the leaderboard,
seeing the switches.
And then I also felt like I was...
invested in the workouts too.
Like I was curious on the times.
I mean, I'm a master next year, right?
So I'm also scouting my
competition right now, I guess.
But no, I was just, it was just fun.
Like I liked the workouts like personally.
So I was just curious on where I,
where I thought people were
going to finish prior and
then seeing it actually play out after.
like as an analyst and then
just following people that
I knew from the Toronto area,
following Jamie.
It was, it was fun.
Could there be things to improve on?
Absolutely.
But I, I enjoyed it.
How I was for that.
I didn't get to watch the
live stream at all.
It wasn't good.
It was like coverage.
Good.
Was it hard to see?
There's a few things that would change.
First of all, on the time,
you never knew which division it was at.
So like it would be really
nice if they would put at
the bottom somewhere.
Right now it's the fifty to fifty four,
you know, because at a quick glance,
all you saw was sometimes
you would see the clock.
If it would be a split screen,
I think the clock would
disappear at times.
So you didn't know the time, the division.
So I didn't know if it was
Heat One or Heat Two,
unless I knew the athletes specifically.
Then I was like, oh, okay,
it's Jamie's in here,
so it's the Heat Two.
So a few things like that.
There was no names on the floor.
So it made it harder for the
announcers to really quickly –
determine who's you know in
the lead and and who's in
what lane they would make
small little mistakes but
it's to it's not really
their fault like that's
just they are having to
know the faces of all these
people by lanes quickly
because there's no quick
name tags or name name tags
and stuff um and the score
right you don't know who's
in the lead um at all like
they would have in a regular um
uh scoring when you watch
like the individuals like
you see like the leaders
and stuff like that so
there's nothing like that
so it's really just a clock
and you're like if you know
the athletes you can
quickly like watch and and
determine where they are in
the race but other than
that um definitely some
room for for improvement
there especially with just
like the visual and then
the finishes like we
already talked about yeah is not um
wasn't ideal because one
floor one people are
finishing and then other
like you're missing other
people from the finish
because they're on a
different camera yeah that
two floor the two sides the
floor thing is I'm not I'm
not quite sure how I feel
about it so this is what it would be like
The athlete in the middle
with the black shorts and
the white top is in the lead.
The all yellow, right?
It was just like, as the announcers,
it's not their fault.
It's just a quick way to say
it because they're just not
getting much help.
Yeah, I talked to Tommy Marquez.
He said they weren't getting
the spotters like they normally get,
talking to them in their
ear of who's where to help them out.
When I did watch the stream,
there was one stationary
camera angled at the one
side of the floor,
one stationary camera
angled at the other side of the floor,
and then they had a person
walking around with a camera.
Okay.
For the most part,
that's the shots you got.
It shows that a good
stationary camera on half the floor,
you can watch and kind of
watch the story.
We've talked about that, that, you know,
in the elite division,
there's too much right up
on a person's face during a competition.
And you don't know what's
going on in the other lanes,
at least with this on that
half of the floor,
you knew kind of who was
winning and who wasn't.
Um,
So I did kind of like that.
I did like that they did
have someone walking around
periodically that you could
get the close-up of somebody.
But I agree with Carolyn.
I was trying to find your
event on what I missed,
and they did not put at the
top age group or heat number.
Just that simple thing at
the top of the screen would
have been awesome.
Even just for a viewership-wise,
having what the workout is at the top.
I know what the workout is.
We, as fans of the sports,
know what the workouts are.
But if they just have
something that just briefly
explains before the workout
begins what the workout is
and then just stays in the
little corner or comes
across the screen
explaining what the workout is,
I think would facilitate
for non-CrossFit fans.
Yeah.
um what's going on and then
also just having a better
visual of the race so like
doing thirty snatches on
the spot you don't know
where people were right
until the judge's hand is
up for the last five reps
so something like that just
would help say the story a
little bit better
Yeah, Larry Young.
We could see the tall socks and the hats.
So the people that wore hats
or tall socks and you knew
that was your person,
really easy to pick out.
Or six rolls of KT tape.
And then they did have one
floor that did not get a live stream.
So you missed the snatch ladder,
you missed the run deadlift,
and you missed the front squat.
No, they showed the front squat.
Oh, they did?
They did end up showing the front squat.
Yeah, you can see it.
Oh, great.
Last question before we kind
of move on and talk about
who won on the podium.
Any like epic moments from
the weekend that you
remember and want to share?
starting to say uh I was
watching paul trombley with
carolyn as we were getting
ready for the show just
missed the four fifty five
front squat to take the
lead uh and he had it
almost at the top and then
dropped it that was pretty
epic and then I I'll say it
again the sixty five plus
women banging out bar
muscle ups was and the
crowd going nuts was epic
for me that's cool
I don't know she crushed the
dude andrea nistler like
just dominating yeah jason
grubb was in the fight of his life
That's good.
And pulled it out in the end,
which I do think is good.
It's not good to win by two
hundred points.
Yeah.
I liked watching the echo
bike workout like I know
you can see where anyone
was and you couldn't see
where anyone was even that
much between the rounds,
but just the visual of
people suffering and just
trying to finish that
workout brought peace to my day.
I just enjoyed watching
people just suffer.
Glenn said grub on the bike
was freaking crazy.
I think he died for a bit.
I died for a bit.
I had people messaging me
after that event that had
watched me walk through the stadium.
We're like, are you okay?
How much were you hurting after?
Probably ten minutes.
That's not bad.
I would expect more.
That workout just looked gross.
Like I said,
the amount of people that were
just selling their souls
was entertaining.
Just because I know how hard
it is to do it.
To actually watch people
stop pedaling in the middle of it
because they were hurting so bad.
There was one athlete, Dina.
What's her last name?
No, no, no.
That's Deanna.
Dina.
Is it Swift?
Yes.
She was doing like an interval style,
like a sprint and then would let the not,
it's not damper,
but like the wind just stop
and then go back.
It was almost like she was
doing a Tabata and had,
I think it was at sixty or
I don't know how many cows
in her division, but
She was two cows short, two or three,
after the second round and
just never made it back.
And it was like,
you just took one less interval.
One less interval, girl.
You had it.
Because she was like one or
two cows left and then just
didn't make it back.
How about the person that
finished the cows in two
intervals but didn't make
it back to the start mat?
So had to do the double
unders and the chest-to-bar
just to go to the finish mat.
And did, but did they make it through?
I thought I heard that and
that they couldn't get
through the chest of.
They may not have.
That's just crazy.
Um,
Haynes stopped for like five seconds
before the timer.
I was screaming.
He finished at ninety-one calories.
He was done, done that, that,
that workout messed people up.
Oh yeah.
bad.
Yeah,
like there were some fun workouts
really to watch.
The standard was really fun to watch.
I didn't think it would be
and it was really fun.
So yeah.
So we'll go through the
podium finishers really quick.
I'm going to start with the men this time.
And I'll share my screen.
Because we want to give
everybody their flowers.
So let me blow this up.
There we go.
In the men, thirty five to thirty nine.
Will Morad takes the win.
Henry Matthews second and
Bronislaw Alinkowitz took third.
Bronislaw Alinkowitz is the
largest man I've ever seen in my life.
His head is bigger than my chest.
I text.
His head is massive.
I text Justin Kotler and I'm like,
his head is so big.
He goes, I know he's the nicest guy ever.
And he really is.
Can you show the top five?
Okay.
Let's see.
We have a Stefan cassette
and Mitch Wagner.
So close.
I mean, yeah,
that eight points and three points like,
oh man.
Yeah.
Braun was not on the podium
going into the last event.
Right.
I actually feel like this
last event shook up a lot
of leaderboards.
Men, forty to forty four.
Jonathan Edel, first.
Chicho Quesada, second.
Julian Serna, third.
Rudy Berger, fourth.
And James St.
Legger, fifth.
I ran into James yesterday.
He was just so excited to be there.
He came all the way from the
UK and he just was ready to
get to Cheesecake Factory to eat some,
to try all the cheesecakes.
Awesome.
Men's, forty-five to forty-nine.
Jason Grubb pulls out the win.
Robbie McCord, second.
Robbie Perovich in third.
Cristiano Damasceno Leandro, fourth.
Nuno Costa, fifth.
Carolyn just wanted me to go to fifth,
so I had to pronounce all those names.
I'm looking at people that
got drug tested personally,
because we said that top five get tested,
so I'm just curious.
In fifty to fifty four,
Justin LaSalla took first.
Jamie McGarver took second.
Sean Ramirez and his comeback took third.
Joel Hughes took fourth and
Jason Leaves took fifth.
Joel Hughes,
that is the person who was
Ariel's original training partner.
Oh, nice.
And he was the two thousand
nineteen CrossFit Games champion.
And he came back five years
later trying to do it again.
He was in the lead for a lot
of the weekend.
But I think the front squat killed him,
too.
Front squat.
Cause he's, he's a little guy.
Only two points there
between four and five.
Got to talk to Sean Ramirez a little bit.
And it was a really good
conversation about how much
he appreciates being back.
Um,
and he's just kind of soaking it in now.
Uh,
very different than when he was there
before.
Men, fifty-five to fifty-nine.
John Kim, pretty much leader.
He was the leader most of the weekend.
Vic McQuaid, second.
Leonardo Lima, third.
Shannon McKibben, fourth.
And Mike Egan, fifth.
And then...
We get to sixty to sixty four.
Joe Ames,
who inspired someone to join a
CrossFit gym at the age of sixty two,
wins.
David Powell, second.
Tom Famry, third.
Stuart Swanson, fourth, and Peter Harvey,
fifth.
Tom Famry is just a great dude.
I talked to him a couple of
times in the back and he'll
be in the behind the scenes.
Awesome.
Men, sixty five plus.
John George first, Freddie Cherry second,
David Hippenstiel third,
fourth Dan Brannigan,
and fifth Dan Miller.
Boy,
they took so many hits on Hillers
coverage this weekend.
Was it all from that division?
Pretty much.
I know Dan Miller.
Um,
cause Jim's obviously competed with them,
like the guy a lot.
And I just see,
he got hammered in one of
the posts and obviously hip
and steel got hammered.
Oh, it's, it's tough.
So that, that poet,
the post that Hiller was
making was kind of what I would,
that's why I wanted to say
what I said at the beginning of the show,
right?
There's going to be,
There's going to be some bad,
but there's a lot of good
that happened this weekend,
and I don't want that to
outweigh what transpired
this weekend with all these athletes.
We go to the women,
thirty five to thirty nine.
We've talked about a lot.
Andrea Nestler just crushed this weekend.
Caroline Klutz took second,
and she's no joke.
She's good.
She's really good.
Sammy Scorcelli took third.
That's my fellow Michelle Gander.
I didn't know who she was,
and then I looked her up,
and she has a doodle that
looks identical to one of my doodles.
Oh, does she?
Yeah.
Yeah, she's on the, was on the stay,
stay strong team.
Um, and so like we had, I mean,
it was nice having other
Michigan people there, um,
in the crowds and like some
of them had bought my shirt.
So yeah, it was nice.
She made a big jump to get
that third place.
Cause she was, she did.
She won that last event.
Yeah.
Yeah.
She won that one.
It was impressive.
And then Kenzie Riley finishes fifth.
Yeah,
she struggled a little bit at the end
with her bar muscle-ups.
Went down because I think
she was in a podium position.
Nursing with her kids all
weekend and still pulling this stuff off.
That's just mad respect,
the balance that these athletes have.
And then, forty to forty-four,
Carly Newland's first,
Andrea Pinheiro second,
Carleen Matthews third,
Jamie Latimer fourth,
and Janine Shingleton in fifth.
Shillington.
Shillington.
Both Carleen and Jamie took
big hits on the front squat
because they're both very
consistent all weekend.
Carleen was in first, I think, or second,
and then dropped a little bit.
Same with you.
Like you guys are very similar finishes.
I felt like so close to each
other on every single event.
Crazy.
Yeah.
You guys had a few events
that you guys were just
back in like within one spot.
And you two are the same age too, right?
I think so.
I'm not certain on that.
So there's no shaking her.
Your division was strong though.
Those front squats.
Yeah, ridiculously strong.
Stronger than the
thirty-five to thirty-nine.
Women forty-five to
forty-nine was a big surprise.
Not to me.
Deanna is really, really good.
I know Kelly Friel is a valor.
Amazing, but
Maybe because she's from my area here,
so I know of her maybe more.
Yeah.
I'm just like Kelly's
five-time podium finisher
and three-time gold medalist.
She's a favorite coming in.
That's still an upset.
Because she got beat by twenty points.
Twenty-one points.
Yeah.
Close.
And then Val Vobrol in third.
What was Kelly's worst finish?
One point.
Yeah.
Where does she take a hit?
She struggled on that.
I mean, no, she, she was close to fit.
She never got back to the bike on the,
on the bike one.
That's one of the ones that
she was only a couple of cows,
but I still think she had a high finish.
Nineteenth on the.
No, that wouldn't be.
It's a nineteenth on this one.
What number is it?
Twenty seven.
So that's a standard.
That's what I wondered.
And then did she not do
great on the last workout either?
Yeah.
So maybe it's a muscle up issue.
Is she, is her, uh, on the last one.
Tenth.
So maybe something with some
sort of muscle up or body
pulling in general or pressing.
All right.
And then women, fifty to fifty four.
Uh, Janet black, Jen, Dieter, Kim Purdy,
Stephanie, China, Stephanie,
China had been in the top
three all weekend.
So I went and talked to her
Sunday morning and then she
fell off the podium one point.
Uh, and then T's Gabby was in fifth.
How did Stephanie do on that
last workout was,
did she tank it or was it
like second and she got
second and still didn't make it.
It moved back.
Oh.
It would be really
interesting to see if they
redid the scoring of the final event,
what the points would be.
I agree.
Holly.
Aaron.
Um, I just, just curious, uh, if you,
if you go on the podium or
cause you did do well in that last one,
Jamie.
So it would only help you.
I would assume, um,
just would be curious to
see how much the leaderboard shakes up.
What are the differences in points?
uh so then we go to fifty
five fifty nine joy and
cooper first tia mavre
second tia vesser third
shanna bunce fourth uh mara
cruz prieto in fifth by a tie oh
Yeah.
Oh, man.
That's her one of the games in twenty one.
How many events win that she has?
Because the one underneath
already has a one.
So one at least at least two events.
One.
But three.
OK, she must have more seconds.
She has a second.
She has a second place somewhere else,
maybe.
And then.
Are we up now?
Lex, they test one through five.
All right.
I can't figure out
tiebreakers on this stuff today.
And then in sixty to sixty four,
Laurie Mishiznik,
who I talked to to get the
pronunciation of her last name correct.
She won because I said, hey,
I'm saying your name way too many times.
I need to know how to pronounce it.
Betsy Vanderberg took second.
Those two were clearly head
and shoulders above in this field.
And then Marion Valkenberg, third.
Gina Vienna in fourth and
Lynn Knappman in fifth.
And then we finish with
sixty to sixty sixty five plus.
Where we had Patricia McGill,
our very own Denise Moore
in second and Julie Holt in third,
Diana Flynn in fourth and
Sue Lawson in fifth.
And they're not on this leaderboard,
but a huge shout out to the
seventy plus division who
are defying what age means
even further now.
There were like thirty some
competitors in the seventy
plus division putting it out on the line.
They were announced their
winners were announced on
Saturday night and had an
award ceremony Saturday night for them.
So congratulations to all
the seventy plus athletes
and and their weekend.
Jamie was every single
division top five or just
certain divisions top five.
You know,
I believe every single division
was top five.
Any randoms or do they only
do the top five?
I did not see any randoms.
It's too bad.
And thirty five to thirty
nine did blood as well.
That's good.
But not forty to forty-four?
No.
Everyone does blood?
Or at random?
Because at semifinals, for instance,
one year I got blood,
but not everyone else.
Certain people at random were chosen.
It looked to me that all five,
thirty-five to thirty-nine
that came in did blood.
Well, Carolyn,
it's because of your
physique that you got blood.
So, yeah.
I'm buff.
Can't trust Carolyn with those guns.
Big pythons.
Jokes around.
Anyway, I felt it was a great weekend.
I had a good time.
It was fun cheering for my
friends out there.
And I love these athletes.
And it was really cool
catching up with all of them.
uh we did do a behind the
scenes so huge shout out to
jonathan ortega and caitlyn
walters who were
videographers on the floor
the entire weekend jonathan
kind of ran that show for
me and I appreciate that
he's going to do all the
editing of the workout
reels that we put inside
the behind the scenes so
huge shout out to him
because he's going to
continue working with me
over the next few weeks
And then I'm looking at a
Monday or Tuesday release
like morning where I'll
release these early in the week.
Um,
so this coming Monday or Tuesday we'll
release episode one,
which will be check-in day.
And then every release after
that will be an event.
So the second week will be event one,
third week will be event
two and so on until we finish the events.
Um,
we got all the behind the
scenes footage holly is
working on graphics and
leaderboards for every
episode um so we'll have
those within the episode as
well you'll get clips of
the workouts and clips of
uh people coming off the
floor uh which was done by
ellie hiller and myself in
the back in the warm-up
area getting a footage of
people warming up and kind
of getting ready and
I will tell you this these
will get better as they go
because I got better as it went um
the questions and the way I
approach things change
completely from day one to
the end of the competition.
I became more voyeuristic at
the end where I would just
like come in on a coach and
an athlete talking and then
like have them explain to
me what they're talking about.
And then they opened up a
lot more about different things,
which became more natural
than like question provoked.
You also get to start like
seeing the story of the
weekend play out and can
then change a little bit
like your ideas and stuff.
And we tried to include as
many athletes as we could.
So I tried not to double up too much.
I tried to get different
people all throughout the
weekend to let them have a
little time in the sun as they went.
But as you get to the end
and things get crazy, there's tears,
there's emotion,
there's a lot of things
that happen at the end, which... Yeah.
We...
where else do you get to go
watch a mom come off the
floor and their little kids
jump up into their arms to
congratulate them after the event?
Like it just, there's magic at this place.
I think that people are
missing from not being
there that you don't get to
see everywhere in CrossFit.
And it was, it was freaking amazing.
And we captured some of those moments.
So that stuff will be in here as well.
What'll be the length of the episodes?
I'm trying to make them like
a half an hour or twenty to
thirty minutes.
I don't want them to.
I want them to be like bingeable.
Yeah.
You know, I mean,
but if the story is there,
I'm going to run with the
story till till its completion.
But but yeah,
the goal is twenty to thirty
minutes an episode.
And it'll be eleven episodes at the end.
so exciting so with that um
carolyn I know that jamie
and I did not see any of
the teens did you capture
any of the teens yeah I
watched um some of the
events uh just like in
between it was it was hard
to like catch all of it I was
Obviously, like,
seeing more of the Masters this weekend.
They had a cool opening
ceremony that I saw also
some highlights from.
And then the teens, they're strong.
Some of those teens are
pulling up some numbers, and I'm like,
damn!
Their running event, like,
on day one was cool.
The obstacle, like, had these, like,
steep hills that they were running up.
My, like,
Athletes,
I would just follow them all
weekend on the leaderboard.
The ones that I'd been
talking to and also seeing
their highlight stories and
stuff like that.
But again,
it's just unfortunate that both
of them were at the same
time because you're just
kind of going back and forth.
And because we were doing
the shows on Masters,
I felt the need to...
stay up to date with what
was going on in the master
side and watch the
divisions and see the
stories unfold so that I
could analyze and talk to
you in the evenings.
So that's one of the reasons
I was also like heavily
invested into the masters,
but not to say that I
didn't watch the teens at all.
One of my two is have
Stephanie on or something
this week to talk about a
debrief of the teens and
how it went up there.
So I'll contact her tomorrow
and see if we can have her
on to talk about that.
Because I know that for the
first time ever,
they went away from the pit
and into an arena at
Kalamazoo for days two and three.
And I'm anxious to know how
that went for them.
yeah like one of their
events that was at pit had
to um move because of the
uh the weather yeah yeah um
yeah I tristan was trying
to watch it a lot and when
I would like catch pieces
of it or when he was
talking to the other coach
there it sounded like it wasn't
Maybe because that arena is
bigger and more of the stadium,
it like looked empty is
what I was hearing early on.
I don't know if that was,
this was like Thursday and Friday.
So Saturday and Sunday
might've been way busier.
Busier there, I didn't follow up as much.
When they were lifting,
it looked empty on the back,
but I don't know if because
their fans wanted to be in
front of them cheering on
while they're facing.
So I didn't know if that was the case,
whether they put the fans
on one side because that's
the side they're facing
when they're competing,
which then leaves the
opposite side feeling empty.
Oftentimes in sports,
you put the fans where the
camera is going to be so it looks...
yeah better but not I guess
you wouldn't want to see an
empty side on the on like
for crossfit right so on a
different note I'm going to
put up these two comments
back to back and you can
surmise what you will uh
keeping it real just got
here jamie is third fittest
thank you we'll let you
guys surmise why uh they
need some randoms in there
because needles
so take a sip um cheers on
an on the next topic uh
page powers announced on
her youtube page yeah um
and due in february huge
huge news huge news
So this is like the first
younger athlete to announce
a pregnancy in the middle
of their career.
I'm assuming it will have
little to no effect on her
overall career.
She's only twenty or twenty one.
Right.
Twenty two.
Twenty one, I think.
And if.
And Carolyn corrected me on
this the other night,
but most women who stay fit
recover from pregnancy a
little bit faster.
There are exceptions to that rule, like,
i.e.,
Lindsay Valenzuela and the
complications she had.
But I'm sure she'll be back
and better than ever.
Probably, I'm guessing,
the twenty twenty six season.
But Andrea Nistler kind of
proved us all wrong.
Yeah.
I mean,
Andrea and Tia are like not the
norm or someone to compare
yourself to as even a high level athlete.
I think that they're an
anomaly that most women
will never be able to do
what they've been able to
do at such a fast time after pregnancy.
And it's been crazy to watch
their journey and
And I feel like every
woman's journey is slightly different,
obviously.
And it'll be interesting to
see whether Paige turns the
page to CrossFit and moves
on to something else or
whether she continues to
pursue her dream of going
to the CrossFit Games as a mom.
Either way, I think we'll be, you know,
we'll be good and we'll be
following her journey.
Yeah.
Like we've said with a lot
of the young athletes,
whatever makes them happy, right?
You know, um, they have to do what,
what that is.
Uh, Linda jury says a Nistler Tia,
she'll be good.
She'll most probably defeat me in the open,
even being nine months pregnant.
Uh, same here.
And I'll have scaled as well.
So
The last topic we have for
tonight is... And I don't
want to get into this on a
long debate because I've
talked about it for the last two weeks.
It is the formation of the PFAA.
And I have said over and
over again that...
I think that athletes should
have a say in some way.
But I was curious and I was
alarmed at the structure of
what the PFA was and did
they have bylaws with
voting members and did the
voting members get a chance
to vote on whatever it is that they do.
They went on coffee pods and wads.
I listened to that on my trip home.
It was very vague in how
they explained that.
Then after that,
Savan did a show with Saxon
Pancheck and Angelo DiCicco
who spelled out things that
were missing from what
Brent and Pat said on
Coffee Pods and WODs.
And this was the warning
that I was trying to say.
Without structure in your
organization and voting on
topics like this,
Now you're getting
dissension where people are
saying they didn't have the right to vote,
where they did not get to
have a say in what was released.
I don't know what the truth is,
but without structure,
it leaves you open to all of this.
And athletes saying that we
are not being represented by them,
they are only representing
the eight people that signed it.
And so we can leave that
open for like a longer
discussion on one of our other shows,
but I didn't want to dive
into that fully tonight
because this is really a
wrap up show and my
daughter's coming into town tonight.
So I didn't want to go super long,
but something is brewing
here and I don't want it to
be dissension.
I want the athletes to come
together as one voice,
but it needs structure and
it needs to be
representative of all athletes.
not just a select few in what they want.
I like Brent.
I like Pat.
I'm not trying to go against
what they're trying to do.
All I was saying was it
needs a proper structure so
that you can show that
you're representing the athletes.
And I think they skipped a
few steps along the way,
and now they're getting bit
in the butt by it.
I think certain points will
get most athletes behind
and certain stuff will
never be a unanimous thing.
So that's where I think it
might be the decision to
like focus on the things
that maybe they can all agree on, um,
as going forward,
just sound like some of the
demands that they made, um, obviously is,
um,
not like not on the same
page for everyone.
Um, and some of them,
everyone would agree like
that would make sense.
Right.
So even some of the things
that they had prior to even
this happening, like years ago, like,
okay, like, um,
having the size of the rig
or ropes cut or, you know,
things that we've learned
through experience and,
and having a better, um,
online competition pro like process.
Like, I feel like most athletes would
agree that these are changes
that you know we want so I
think just beginning with
at least that before
because if I think if you
if you push certain stuff
that divide right away and
I think it's gonna be hard
for the pfa to continue but
if at least you have
everyone on the same page
on certain points to begin
with I think you can start
growing and then taking
into account different um
thoughts and stuff like that
going forward I don't know
if that makes sense so I
think I I hear what you're
saying and I do agree to
with it in most part but I
think it regardless of what
they're they're asking for
if you can say we put this
to a vote of our body of
the athletes that we
represent and whatever your
bylaws say it passed by a
then we are representing the
body as a whole because
that passed a vote.
If you don't put it out to
the body to vote on,
then you're putting
yourself out there on a
limb with only the board
voting on it to say this is what we want.
Now you've got the divisiveness.
If I'm an athlete who has
voted and at least got my say,
then I'm okay with you
moving forward with whatever it is.
And it just becomes who can vote, right?
Like in their thing,
it was like a two year,
is it individual athletes only?
Do the masters count?
Do the teams count?
And I get, we're talking about the games.
Cause if we start going all
the way until the open, like, I mean,
there'd be a ridiculous
amount of people to survey.
Let's say you go games and
is it only the end of it?
Like, where does it like,
what is your pool of athletes?
Cause that should be clear too,
whether it's,
you can only be an individual athlete.
masters and elite right like
it's just leaving teams out
is a big miss and I think
the larger the body the
better your position is
So when you're limiting yourself, yeah,
you shouldn't go all the way to the open.
That's just ridiculous.
But to go to at least all
games qualifiers in all
divisions or to maybe semifinals, maybe.
Because now you've got not only dissension,
but you have athletes
questioning leadership.
Mm-hmm.
Like it, and now it's getting bad when,
when it should be a unified,
this should have unified
athletes to get what they wanted.
And instead it's cutting them in half.
Yeah.
I, I loved Saxon.
He, I mean, boy, he was, he was on fire.
I mean,
I feel like he had a lot of the
same points you've talked about Carolyn,
like
You as a current athlete can't really,
like, what are you asking for?
You're asking to know these
workouts in advance?
Like, that doesn't work.
The biggest problem to our sport,
I'm going to say it again,
I say that I've said it
many times is the unknown and unknowable.
Like it is the biggest
barrier to our sport having
any credibility to be
professional and stuff like that.
And to moving like moving forward,
like there's just so many
problems with the unknown and unknowable,
the leaks.
the, the movement standards,
the changes continuously,
like the safety that you
can predict what could happen.
Cause things just get invented.
Workouts get invented constantly.
Like that barrier.
I don't know.
Like,
I don't know if the sport itself has
to be completely different than the,
than the methodology,
which I don't think it needs to,
but at the same time,
like if you want it to be
professional like that, it could like,
I don't, I just don't know.
Like
Like I get the unknowable is
so important to CrossFit
and developing people,
but I just think that
there's so many issues with
it at the same time.
So, so I think what's happening is,
and I think Saxon tried to
say this in the interview as well is.
And we've talked about it.
The CrossFit Games are
usually the safest run
competition out there.
Yeah.
It just had the biggest faux
pas that happened, right?
So for the most part,
you have confidence in things, but
If you vote on a neutral
third party that has no
affiliation with the
athletes and no affiliation with CrossFit,
and they can look at the
safety plan and say, hey,
this is good or not good,
and both sides agree to it,
I think that's what Saxon is looking for.
right not coming in and
saying hey we want to look
at your workouts and say
they're okay they're not
okay they still need to be
involved in the sport
somehow they need to
understand the movements
and right but not be an
active athlete I think is
what he was saying yeah
because you can have access
to information above other
people like and that's what
I said prior to this is it's it's
it's just tough.
Cause it's like, Oh, you like,
you're an active athlete at
the highest level.
Like you,
you just can't have access to
certain information.
Even if you do share it to others,
like it just,
you're still getting it first.
It's, and that probably is a head,
like a hesitation from the
games to also communicate
with them because they're
active and they don't know
what kind of information to give, um,
so aaron I I want to speak
to this if they're only if
they are doing only
individual games then why
do they want to step in and
have influence on smaller
events I agree like your
your body are only games
athletes who have made it
in the last two years who
are allowed to vote those
are the only people allowed
to vote no teams no masters no teens
no semifinal athletes.
Yet issues that you have
brought up yourself are ropes being cut,
which happened at semifinals,
bar height or ring height,
which happened at semifinals.
If you're going to include
these things that need
changed at the semifinal level,
semifinal athletes should
have a say in that as well.
And semifinal and games
athletes include teams.
They're working out on the same bars,
same ropes, same swim, all that stuff.
Yep.
And it doesn't hurt you to
expand your body and have
bigger representation.
It just doesn't.
But
Sorry.
It's just been like this
thing in my craw for the last two weeks.
And I just think it needs
better organization.
I want them to succeed.
Trust me,
this is not coming after them to
like disband or they just
need the organization
behind it to make sense.
um so whitney I actually
listened to jason a lot I I
saw his pfa thing a while back
And I knew they were in
their infancy back then.
I was hoping that through the years,
they would develop into a
professional organization.
I belong to a professional organization,
so I'm watching it from the
eyes of someone who has
been the president of my
professional organization,
who has been a board member,
who has had to work with the bylaws.
That's what I'm looking at,
and it's falling short on many levels.
Okay.
but um so with that we I'm
sure this will be a topic
as more people because now
that two people have spoke
up you know more coming
that's just the way the world works uh
So anyway, with that,
we're going to let everybody go tonight.
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Thank you.
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