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Seth Holehouse is a TV personality, YouTuber, podcaster, and patriot who became a household name in 2020 after his video exposing election fraud was tweeted, shared, uploaded, and pinned by President Donald Trump — reaching hundreds of millions worldwide.
Titled The Plot to Steal America, the video was created with a mission to warn Americans about the communist threat to our nation—a mission that’s been at the forefront of Seth’s life for nearly two decades.
After 10 years behind the scenes at The Epoch Times, launching his own show was the logical next step. Since its debut, Seth’s show “Man in America” has garnered 1M+ viewers on a monthly basis as his commitment to bring hope to patriots and to fight communism and socialism grows daily. His guests have included Peter Navarro, Kash Patel, Senator Wendy Rogers, General Michael Flynn, and General Robert Spalding.
He is also a regular speaker at the “ReAwaken America Tour” alongside Eric Trump, Mike Lindell, Gen. Flynn.
Welcome to Man in America, a voice of reason in a world gone mad. I'm your host, Seth Holehouse. Something that is very important to me is trying to understand the levels and layers of deception that exist in this world. Because I believe that the society around us has been so carefully and strategically planned so that everything that we encounter is something that was given to us with the intention of deceiving us. And deceiving us in a lot of ways, but I think fundamentally deceiving us in a way that we've forgotten who we are.
Speaker 1:We've forgotten where we came from. We've forgotten that we have a purpose here on Earth. And as I look around and I see the Kabuki Theater of DC, and you look at the posturing of World War three, and and these are important topics which I will continue to cover, but my mind always almost always goes to a place of, well, who's controlling these people, and what is their intention? And my guest today is Matthew Arretz, who I I always enjoy conversation with him because he's a very, very deep thinker. It's like, if I think I'm a deep thinker, this guy's, like, at the bottom of the iceberg deep in terms of his thinking.
Speaker 1:And he thinks so much that he writes books. He produces a lot of information. He educates. He's a very, kind of, I'd say, very wide and deep level of understanding of history. And so in today's show, we're gonna be talking about really what or who or what entities or bloodlines or families or who's controlling what's happening in the world?
Speaker 1:And what are that what is it that we see happening around us that we think is maybe natural and organic? What are these movements are actually still part of some very, very massive social engineering program. Because that's why I'm convinced that's happening, right, is that we have been continued to be fed the next level of social engineering. As we've, you know, look at you know, everyone's, you know, trying to get Trump back into office, thinking Trump can get back in and kinda dismantle the deep state and everything. I think that's something that we're seeing.
Speaker 1:It's like, oh, well, maybe you have different respect than me, but it's not what I thought, right, in terms of what we're seeing. And so what we're gonna be diving into today with Matt is just going into the deep history of the secret societies. We're gonna be talking about Israel, the role of Israel, how it's being used to, I think, bring about a massive religious holy war, how that all fits in, and so much more. So if you want shallow news clip type stuff, this is not gonna be the show for you. But if you're like me and you have an interest in getting to the bottom of things and trying to under uncover the hidden history and the hidden hands that are controlling the society around us, I think you're really going to enjoy this interview.
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Speaker 1:Mister Matthew Arret, it's been a while, man, but I'm I'm always excited to have these conversations with you. So thank you so much for being here today.
Speaker 2:Hey. Thanks for having me back on, Seth. I I always enjoy these two.
Speaker 1:Very good. So as usual with you, I wanna go deep. I wanna go deep into the the belly of the beast. As I look around and see what's happening in our society, and it's hard to make sense of a lot of things if you're just looking at the surface. Right?
Speaker 1:And let's just take the current administration in America. We have Trump. We've got Kash Patel, you know, the FBI. We have a lot of these people that we thought would be coming in and just turning the entire system upside down and smashing the pyramid of power and, you know, releasing free energy and who knows what. But what's been apparent to me through this and a good reminder is that I really believe that almost anybody that we know the name of, especially these public figures, they have many levels of controllers above them, and that the the systems and the families and the orders that actually rule a lot of this world go back centuries and even millennia.
Speaker 1:Even going back into ancient Rome, it was happening there. And what I appreciate about our discussions is that you have such a wide grasp and deep grasp of history and not just the history that we were taught in our our history books, which was this memorizing useless facts and dates and everything. And so I think that oftentimes when I can't make sense of what's going on right now in the surface or in this world that you we're we're watching, that going back and going deep into these other topics helps me to make sense of what's going on here. And so I know that you've, I'll pull it up. I know that you've recently, released, I think, your your newest book.
Speaker 1:Right? So the newest book series, getting into mystery Babylon, the Rosicrucians, you know, unsolved mysteries. And these are the topics that fascinate me the most because I find that when you dive into this information and you're really open to seeking that, again, it really helps to frame what's happening today. So my first question to you is when you look around and you see what's happening at a geopolitical level, you see, you know, are we going into war with Russia now? You know, there's there's all this posturing going on.
Speaker 1:What's really happening? Why how is it that Israel is influencing the Trump administration so much, even to the point where he's, I think, recently, it's you know, said that he's gonna withhold federal aid to countries and cities or sorry, to states and cities and that are not, that are allowing kinda anti Israel viewpoints. Like, that seems very strange to me that that would be seems to be going against the constitution that you're you're denying federal aid to, say, a disaster area because of a region's view of a foreign country. But, again, these things aren't easy to understand from the surface. So how do you make sense?
Speaker 1:I know it's a broad question, but how do you make sense of the chessboard that we're see we're seeing being played out right now?
Speaker 2:Yeah. I like I like how you framed that. You created, like, the biggest possible space to move in as far as that question.
Speaker 1:Well, that's a mind like yours. You need that space. I wanna give you that space.
Speaker 2:No. I appreciate that, Abeshi. Thank you, for so that there's so many choices on that I'm that I'm faced with, hearing hearing that opening. And I'm I'm gonna approach it from this this standpoint. Okay?
Speaker 2:Like, because I know that the the hunger to figure out who has been responsible for the disasters that we've suffered as a species, especially over the twentieth century, this and especially especially in our lifetimes as far as the the immersion of a world of globalization, this consumer society cult that was not how America was built or progressed for the the vast majority of the the young American experience. And I say young because I mean America's The United States Of America is still a relatively new country in the grand scheme of things, but it's incredible bursts of progress. The upshifts of of standards of living, the embrace of freedom as an ideal, the self perfectibility and the enchriment of the inalienable rights of the individual as well as the general welfare. Like these are concepts that are really powerful and I do think that they do strike terror in the hearts of oligarchs who believe instead that human beings are made in the image of, of mud to be controlled by a master class under a slave master relationship of feudalism. And that's the way oligarchs always, at least the especially the most virulent of the western oligarchs and these these old bloodlines, managing much of the Transatlantic, but elsewhere too, have viewed the natural order should be basically, what we saw if we took a snapshot of like the dark ages, you know, the periods of the worst worst parts of the crusades of the forever wars a thousand years ago.
Speaker 2:And the introduction of, you know, feudalism, agrarian feudalism in, in England with Norman invasion that happened right before the the crusades began. And that was really the the the insertion of the idea that human beings who live on a land are gonna be the possessions of those who own the land, you know, just like the other chickens and the cows and the other things. So the the collapse in living standards, the the increase in ignorance, the normalization of war and death, the mysticism and super superstition that became rampant in those days of sinister of like nihilism of the of the medieval period. And what not to say it's not to say that there weren't good positive elements that burst onto the scene and that there weren't good fights, but by and large, it was a lot of despair. The European population collapsed especially by the fourteenth century.
Speaker 2:I think they lost something like a third of the population of Europe. So it was it was a it was a dark age. And that's the ideal state of the natural order of an oligarch an oligarchist mindset. Now today, we're we're suffering in the end throes of a a dying empire. Some of it is is a is contrived.
Speaker 2:Like, we're we're seeing, like, as you pointed out, certain hotspots that have been, like, lit, certain flash points around the world, The Middle East being a big one.
Speaker 1:Actually, my prices up really quickly. I I just wanna highlight what you mentioned there, because I think that's very important in understanding where we are in history. You mentioned that we're in the end stages of a dying empire. And I I think that when you as much as we love America and we, you know, feel so proud to be an American, which is great. And and I'm not saying that America is gonna die and it's kinda just kinda kinda turn into dust and ash.
Speaker 1:But I I do feel like especially if you look at the morality that is oftentimes visible throughout history at the end of an empire. I I would say that it's representative in our current culture, right, in what's been kinda pushed onto us. But I do think it's it's accurate to say that we are at the end stages of a dying empire, that The United States, as this global empire that you could probably say peaked in, say, World War two and post World War two and the the post World War two order, it is you know, whether it's the the the the end of our currency, the dying of the fiat currency, the dying of the cultural system, the the bloat that the the deep state bloat that is has kind of rotted the country to the core of its bones. I I would say it's accurate to frame this as saying, yeah. Like, we're living in the end stages of a dying empire.
Speaker 1:And I think that that if we look at it like that, it kinda helps make sense of things. Sorry. I just wanted to highlight that because I I think it's an important point.
Speaker 2:Yeah. It's good it's good to highlight, yeah, these these core ideas. And and it's it's it doesn't mean that it's predetermined that America must collapse. Exactly. There's always a point of redemption for every individual that was on a wayward path, you know, and and made bad decisions and now was reaping the the or harvesting the consequence of the bad decisions as an individual and you can get rock bottom and and and find, know, find God again.
Speaker 2:And you could you could repent and and find, you know, a a better path that helps redeem you again. And that's both the case for an individual, but it's also the case for for civilizations too. Unfortunately, there aren't very many cases in human history of where civilizations have done that. But we could we could study history from the vantage point of, like, where where were the points of redemption? Like, look at Rome.
Speaker 2:Right? Rome and and and America was inspired by lessons and studies of what was what caused Rome, what caused it to be be go from being a kingdom into becoming a republic and thence into becoming an empire. There was not one Rome. There was different phases of Rome. Right?
Speaker 2:And at some points, we could we could see Rome, aspiring and acting more successfully in harmony with its ideals and natural law. And at other times later on, we could see the rot and the corruption set in both with the the leadership, but also with the the population on mass. And the behavior of Rome began to act more expansionist, more greedy, more rapacious, the idea of like honoring your treaties, honoring your neighbors that you might have fought with in in the past, like like oh, I mean, we had the there's there's so many cases of this. But anyway, I'm I'm not gonna go into the I'll keep it kinda general for the time being. Cicero emerged at the end of the phase of of the Roman Republic and he if people were actually listening to Cicero, he was he was a leader and he was trying to fight, like John F.
Speaker 2:Kennedy was trying to fight to get people to remember and go back to their moral roots. They didn't. They ended up, you know, ignoring Cicero when they and the, you know, they they continued down the path of empire. Cicero got murdered.
Speaker 1:By the CIA. Right?
Speaker 2:By the CIA. Yeah. The proto CIA of the day. Sure. Yeah.
Speaker 2:And as soon as, you know, I see it kinda like the the murder of Socrates when Athens had a chance to also, like, what is it? Three centuries before Cicero, Athens also had a chance to restore its its noble ideals of democracy and liberty and these other good things. And they were they also collapsed into empire through the Peloponnesian war that went on for, thirty years where they backstabbed Sparta and they were they were becoming more expansionist and more rapacious, more myopic. And they lost, you know, the the the mandate of heaven, you could say. And Socrates tried his best and Plato tried his best to remind people like this is we're we're doomed if we stay on this course.
Speaker 2:And they they they could have. Unfortunately, they they judiciously killed Socrates just like they later killed Cicero. I think, you know, Jesus after after Cicero also provided a moral grounds of around, you know, what a society could be if it if it chose not to self implode. And, they didn't listen there either in in the case where Rome had now embraced becoming an empire. So there's these different different moments.
Speaker 2:And I think, you know, that looking at the the best of the worst of America, you had those who were inspired by the ideals of the Roman Republic, and and then you had at different times those who were making US policy who were inspired by the Roman Empire. The Pax, you know, the Pax Americana logic was based on saying, well, look, we can we can have a new Rome. We can expand and impose our will onto the weak, whether it goes and get, you know, whether it doesn't matter if it destroys the lives of of natives who were subhuman anyway, so we don't have to honor those treaties. It doesn't matter if we destroy the lives of peep brown people living elsewhere. You know, it's our the the resources under their land, like Kissinger had said in 1974 in his NSSM two hundred two hundred, program.
Speaker 2:He said that the if these 15 countries of Africa and The Middle East and Mexico desire to have industrial technological progress, they're gonna start using the resources under their soil, which is they're not allowed to do because those are in America's strategic interest. So we have to now enforce a policy of of negative population growth, negative industrialization for those countries so that we could better, like, I guess, win the world. So a lot of these these things that Americans maybe they didn't know. These were this was a secret policy that was only revealed later on, but still, we did we we we did have the app the means to know where our cheap crap was coming from that was flooding into our world, into our dollar stores, into our Walmarts. And and we could we could clearly there was evidence that showcased that we weren't making those things anymore.
Speaker 2:We were using more and more. Someone was making the things we were using cheaper and cheaper. Who were they? They weren't us. Well, they were they were permanent sweatshops and essentially modern slave colonies where people could say, oh, at least they're getting 25¢ a day in Indonesia or something.
Speaker 2:Would you rather that they got nothing a day? And it's like, well, that's not that's a false choice. Why don't they have like an industrial advanced civilization? Oh, because we assassinated their leaders yet and again who who tried to do that. Oh, that's why.
Speaker 2:So now we're at the the the precipice now of of I think the systemic breakdown, which has been, you know, many years coming. And we have certain things that you can't understand if you just simply try to approach it materialistically or from the standpoint of like geopolitics or economics like, you know, and this is where the revenge of the mystery cults books that I wrote play a certain role at at just showcasing how my mind is trying trying to make sense of the occult's nature of some of the ritualistic abuses of humanity, especially that they're now culminating with this obsession to rebuild Solomon's temple. You know, that's that's a big weird thing as a cult inside of Israel right now and and and amongst many Christian Zionists in in America and Canada as well, which is this idea that for some reason, we have to rebuild this third temple. You know, they even there's like some cattle rancher in Texas that provided these red heifers that are that are there waiting to be sacrificed in in Israel, specifically on a super holy site the Muslim world. It has to be for some reason that one specific site where this mosque has to be destroyed, which is obviously gonna create a lot of bad feeling.
Speaker 2:Like, if there aren't bad feelings between Muslim and Christian worlds already, just destroy one of the holiest sites and then rebuild build upon it, you know, the 3rd Temple Of Solomon. Jewish Christian Muslim hate is only gonna amplify a lot, but that that's something that some people are really obsessed with doing. And there is a tendency to hate the Jew bankers that I'm noticing is a big thing coming in because people see the images of what Netanyahu has been responsible for in The Middle East and Gaza, the dead children. It's it's it's it it pains the heart to see these these footage of rapid abuses of human other human beings. And so the the Netanyahu has not done any favors for the cause of of, you know, the Jews in general, the hate factor is increasing quite a bit.
Speaker 2:People are getting more disgusted by APAC and other other, you know, lobby groups that have a huge amount of influence, on on North American and and even Canadian policymakers, who are more than willing to cancel, you know, constitutional rights and defenses of our freedom in favor of this foreign power as you alluded to in in those opening remarks. So the the idea of like finding a hate absorber or a hate object amongst the concept of of the these Jewish bankers that are that are doing all this damage to the world, that's become popular, it's a fallacy because in my my analysis that I go through my books, the there's actually a program to use the these Zionist figures in order to create a mass sacrifice of Israel, of the of the Jews living in Israel who've been convinced to go and live in the desert by a bunch of anti semitic, you know, fascists a hundred years ago, like Lord Milner and Lord Balfour who wrote Balfouric Accords with the British Empire. They actually despised Jews. They actually thought the Jews were subhuman and yet, they devoted so much of their energy and effort to create a homeland in in British Mandate Palestine.
Speaker 2:At the same time as you had Lord Palmerston and and Lord Shaftesbury, are creating a new ideology called Christian Zionism, at the same time that they're doing that. So they're creating the these these perversions within Judaism and within Christianity that are going to serve a geopolitical purpose. And in my assessment, honestly, at this point, I think when Kissinger had said ten years ago or in 2012, where do you see Israel in ten years? He said in in his response to a Jerusalem journalist saying, in ten years, there will be no Israel. And he confused a lot of the people who are reading that interview, what did he mean?
Speaker 2:And he he when he was asked to clarify, simply he repeated his statement again. And I cite that in the opening of of my mystery Babylon book that that very important statement by Kissinger. Because why would this guy who devoted his life to a to a Zionist friendly program all of a sudden say such a thing? What does he mean? And I think what he means is just that very thing that that that there is and he was he was awarded and he's made a knight by Queen Elizabeth.
Speaker 2:For those who don't know, he 1992, he's actually a knight of the order of Saint Michael and Saint George, just like George h w Bush was, made a knight of of this order of Saint Michael and Saint George, by Her Majesty, then Queen Elizabeth now dead. And I think that that that gets us a little bit closer into a a causal node of power that has been thinking with a long scale, a long view of history, and that is tied to essentially the same crusader ideology that the chivalric orders of the ancient world a thousand not ancient, but a thousand years ago that oversaw this, this crusade were doing. So the crusades were done as forever wars sparked to get the all of the peace and all of the the the tendency towards cooperation between cultures that was the norm between the seventh century and then the tenth century. Our our orientation as Jews, Christians, Muslims, Chinese was to be human, avoid war, have dialogue, work to to share, discoveries, inventions, and it was, you know, it was a much healthier orientation, but that had to be destroyed. And so these crusader orders were created like the Knights Templar that had their headquarters in Solomon's Mines, you know, today right under Alak Alaqska Mosque.
Speaker 2:That was the Templars. They were obsessed with recreating the Solomon Temple to usher in some new age. So were the knights Hospitaller that were a sister order of the knights Templar. And then you had things like the the knights of the order of the Garter, the the Teutonic knights that were set up later on. But they were all there was a limited array of these these mystery cults masquerading as Christian mercenaries that had initiatory degrees of experience whereas it was discovered along the way and people deny this.
Speaker 2:But I I think that there's enough evidence to say that this actually was true, that at the higher degrees of the grand master or, you know, because you had a a grand master of a lower kind of a freemasonic sort of setup within the templars. At the higher levels of initiation, the worship of demons like Baphomet did seem to become a normalized thing. The androgynous, you know, goat headed god was part of the the the creation of a new psychopathic mercenary class of of wannabe god men.
Speaker 1:So I saw Question for you.
Speaker 2:Let me
Speaker 1:give you second.
Speaker 2:Yeah. Sure.
Speaker 1:So so go ahead.
Speaker 2:Go on. Yeah. Okay. I'll say it, and then I'll wrap it up.
Speaker 1:Yes.
Speaker 2:And the group saw a virtue in war, in bloodletting, not as being a war war is not being something necessarily that's geopolitical, but something that was a worship, an honor of their perverse idea of God. This idea of purgative cleansing of the the the slate of humanity to create new, rejuvenations. Right? And and this idea of human mass sacrifice is part of the the logic of uniting the profane and the sacred, which a lot of these these mystery cults, they all seem to have this attribute where as you you increase in in the hierarchy, the there's rituals that involve the unification of of opposites, moral opposites that break the conscience, break the personality of who whoever goes through that. Again, drugs, like different psychedelic drugs, which is not a new phenomenon that's that's been around mushrooms, opiates, other things have been has been around for thousands of years.
Speaker 2:And they these have been used for ritual, practices and that's that's that drives people both kinda crazy, but it creates a new sociopathic normalized breed of leader of of mercenary that will manage a deep state type structure. And that is directly tied to what Kissinger was actually doing throughout his entire career, as part of a broader empire. And that I think I'll just stop right there. That that's how I I I I I would frame it for people trying to make sense of what are what is the role of the Jews for good or for bad? Why are why is there this potential, for world war, a mass annihilation of human life, especially concentrated there?
Speaker 2:What what's what's really going on? Yeah. Sorry. I'll just
Speaker 1:No. It's okay. Well, okay. So I'll comment quickly on something, you you you the merger of the profane and the sacred. I think a lot of if you dive into a lot of the, SRA rituals, know, satanic ritual abuse, and what happens, they'll have you know, with these children that are praised and loved and everything until they get to a certain point, say, three, four years old, and then they flip it.
Speaker 1:So they take the person that is their protector, their lover, and that person becomes their abuser, and and fractures their mind. It takes something because you you believe you have this sense of understanding of what is moral, what is good, what feels good, and they break it in, like, the deepest way possible. And it creates again, it creates these people that become psychopaths. Right? There's no such thing as right or wrong.
Speaker 1:It's all merged into something. So that makes sense. But one thing I was gonna just take a step back, and I know that you understand this probably far deeper than I do. Am I correct that was it perhaps Albert Pike or one of the early kind of, you know, figureheads of a lot of the secret societies had written some sort of essay or something talking about everything leading up to a point where there's a a global religious war. Right?
Speaker 1:Where that was one of the end game, goals for them was to eventually get to a point where primarily the Christians, the Muslims, and the Jews would end up destroying each other and basically, in essence, destroying our religion and paving the way for a centralized one world religion, one world government. Is that am I correct in understanding that?
Speaker 2:Okay. You you are thinking about Albert Pike, who I think is an extremely important occult figure of of grand strategy. In fact, they you know, I just was reading a disturbing article that they're restating his statue in Washington DC this week. Interesting. Yeah.
Speaker 2:It was one of the few statues I was actually okay with having been taken down during the crazy days of of BLM rise. I I'm against statues being taken down, but for that one, was like, okay. Okay. But now they're they're bringing it back. They're bringing it back.
Speaker 2:And, yeah, he was the the grandmaster of the Scottish Rite southern jurisdiction, and reformed the entire Scottish Rite or at least upgraded it, if you wanna call it that, by redefining some of the rituals and the degrees of initiation. And he was a correspondent with, an even more powerful Italian figure by the name of Giuseppe Mazzini. And Mazzini was based for a while in 1848. Think he was the dictator of of Italy. He he ran for one year a triumvirate controlling Italy that that didn't work out too long.
Speaker 2:He had to leave, went went into exile and of course, where did he go? He went to England. And England became his forever base of operations ever since where he colluded with, you know, Lord Palmerston in the upper echelons of the British Empire. But they had a lot of controls over what are called, the the young the young Europe movements. So they they they created a strategy, again, free masonic front groups to coordinate these weaponized masses of especially young people, but people of all ages at the end of the day to basically turn on their countries and do basically what we've seen color revolutions do in in our more modern times.
Speaker 2:You take people who have been abused and then you organize them through a color or some some symbol to become a mindless mob that will undermine whatever nation you want to destabilize
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Speaker 2:Yeah. And in America, was called young America, and there's two branches. There was the northern branch that was organized by, the northern well, the the northern jurisdiction of the Scottish Rite.
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Speaker 2:And, and the head of that one was was Ralph Waldo Emerson. He was the head of Young American North and the head of yeah. And the whole transcendental movement that he created was largely overseen by a certain British grand strategist named, Thomas Carlyle, who ran the Edinburgh Review and and was a very, very important figure with Mazzini. And their idea was, you know, we we should just get rid of the US constitution. The The USA is a hypocritical corrupt beast that should never have existed in the form that it did in the first place.
Speaker 2:We should just undo the constitution. Let the the slave states just do their own thing, have their own slave empire, and we're gonna have our our own special pro British new confederation, and and we'll join Canada and and integrate back into the British empire. And, you know, that was the general political, orientation of the northern branch. The southern branch was Albert Pike. And Albert Pike and and others set up what's called the the knights of the golden circle in 1851.
Speaker 2:And pretty much the entire leadership of of Jefferson Davies not yeah. Well, Jefferson Davies, Judah Benjamin, the secretary of state of the confederate forces were all members of the knights of the gold the golden circle with Pike and Pierce. I mean, Franklin Pierce administration was pretty much all of his executives were all Freemasons who were part of the Knights of the Golden Circle, who had this idea of, again, taking the example of Roman Empire and using that as your ideal of of of creating a new identity for America as not just the third like the the slave the slave states. They had an idea of, an imperial expansion. So they had a map, and you could find the maps even now, where they want to expand the institution of slavery to grow the bound the the borders of this new empire to encapsulate most of, like, all of Central America, all all of Mexico, South America would be a lot of that taken under this new empire that would then expand and expand with it.
Speaker 2:Its its headquarters was actually the the the capital was supposed to be Cuba, which is weird. And this this became a conduit for what later on was retooled as the KKK, the the the Ku Klux Klan, in 1865, again, by Albert Pike playing a key role in setting institution up as the outgrowth of the the Knights of the Golden Circle. But I had about eighty eighty thousand paramilitary members in that Golden Circle order. It was a very significant thing. Now, there is some some fallacies.
Speaker 2:So though though there are crazy, I think, genuine correspondences between him and Massini, there there is evidence of fakery too that was somehow inserted into the archives of the the headquarters of the of the Scottish Rite that, include some like, the the famous Pike forecast three wars and the rise of fascism and all of these these things. That's a famous letter. It's Pike. In my analysis, I think it was a fake thing written many years after Pike was dead.
Speaker 1:And it
Speaker 2:started in in order to undermine the actual very provocative, genuine letters that he's sending to back and forth to to Mizzini that talks about, you know, their worship of of Lucifer as the the primary god within, within their their strange system. So but there is a limited hang up. There's a truthfulness. The reason why these things work is because it does whoever wrote it was revealing a general intention whether I think they probably wrote it around the nineteen forties as World War one was was winding down. But they put in a lot of truthful aspects of what the oligarchy does want.
Speaker 2:So it it partially it it serves a few purposes. But but so anyway, why am I saying this? Because if if you look at it, the the Nazis themselves during World War two and way before that actually had a an occult inner secret society that was run through Himmler's Anandelba, and that was called the the new Templars. So Himmler himself was a knight of the round table in the Vevilsburg Castle where all sorts of ritual abuse was being carried out. Strange tantric monks from Tibet were being brought in.
Speaker 2:That's actually one of they found hundreds of Tibetan monks that were brought in from from Tibet into the Bebelsburg Castle, to carry out god knows what kinds of experiments or ritual types of abuse. We know that ritual abuse on children was rampant within Tibet. I don't know the details, but that was a weird aspect of why the Nazis were fascinated by sending up teams into Tibet, you know, where they one of the the key guys ended up befriending one of the key Nazis ended up befriending and mentoring the young Dalai Lama. Later, the guy who's now the the famous, you know, tongue sucking Dalai Lama who's got this weird fetish for getting little kids to suck his tongue on on camera. That guy was actually trained by one of Himmler's key initiates back in the forties or thirties.
Speaker 2:So they were also looking for things like hollow earth. They were looking for like the the real force. Like, they're the the only way to understand the Nazis is to understand again this weird continuity with the ancient mystery cults that were running the crusades that were run by templars who had their headquarters in Solomon's Temple, which Albert Pike talks about quite a bit as well. I've said it from his morals and dogma, his comments about the Templar obsession with rebuilding Solomon's Temple, which he shares, which was behind the creation of the state of Israel itself going back to the nineteenth century and the works by these freemasonic, you know, groupings around Charles Warren and, King Edward the seventh who were obsessed with the idea of creating a new type of Judaism that would be based more upon a blood and soil cult that you that would only get the Jews of Europe and Russia to go into the desert if you terrified them enough and made life as uncomfortable for those Jews living in Europe as possible. So these guys were also ironically promoting an anti semitic impulse and propaganda within Europe, within within England, within, Eastern Europe, within Russia.
Speaker 2:They were they were disseminating a lot of of propaganda to get the population to turn on these evil Jews that you can never trust. They're just so bad. And it was successful enough, and there were there were anti Jewish pogroms in in Russia that destroyed the lives of many Jews, torture, abductions. Whole Christian communities were, like, induced to turn with pitchforks and, you know, onto onto the Jewish communities. And it created, like, this trauma in the minds of many Jewish groups, which were which was useful for those who would like Alfred Milner, who was co authoring the Balfour Accords with Leo Amory and Lloyd George and Lord Balfourt and Walter Rothschilds.
Speaker 2:They were they were very useful at getting getting them as many excuses or reasons to leave Europe to get rid of the Jewish problem that way, to to purge Europe of the Jews, and to get and to get provide as much of a foundation to build this new type of Jewish society and ethno national society in the desert That'll serve a a number of purposes. The the Nazis were also obsessed with this, and this is actually a point of embarrassment for many Jewish groups today is that they have to admit that the biggest success of creating the state of Israel was done by the Nazi British agreement of 1933 called the Havara Agreement, which was a deal to pay for the transportation.
Speaker 1:The relocation. Right?
Speaker 2:Relocation of of tons of, like, I think it's about 70,000 Jews during the thirties into the Middle East. And Adolf Eichmann, who certainly despised the Jews. Ethnically speaking, he despised and thought they were subhuman, but he taught himself Hebrew in order to study Kabbalah and to study the Zohar. He actually did these things, and was obsessed with getting the Jews in the in the desert as part of their idea of the Jewish problem, in order to what I believe is to do what is now happening. But many years in the past, the the timeline is off right now.
Speaker 2:But according to the Nazi idea, it would have been to create, an eschatological end times ritual at by amplifying both the worst elements of Islam. So you had like Hajjamin, the the the the British empire selection of the the lead grad Mufti of Jerusalem, who was a big collaborator with the Muslim Brotherhood, a free Masonic outfit, but catered to a a Muslim sort of psyche and complex. So you had Hajj Amin being brought in by the British installed there to help amplify the deep state structures within the Arabic world through the Muslim Brotherhood that he was collaborating with and that were promoting mass extermination of Jews, Jewish settlers. And then at the same time, as that was happening, you had the Jabotinsky groups that were operating through different free masonic outlets and that were setting up night brigades, terrorist squads to go and, like, raid Arab villages and and and terrorize Arabs in a in a in a situation that was creating an inflamed, you know, animosity between cultures that were was making it more and more difficult to find any possible harmonious coexistence. Now, Hajmin was also working with the Nazis.
Speaker 2:He met with Hitler. And he was, like, organizing the Arab world to join the Nazis, and some of them did in the fight against Russia and other things. So you you have this this strange sick game being played and that should have stopped when when World War two was over, but it didn't stop. It just took on a new form, a new strategy. And that's that's where again, I think that it it helps to appreciate that many of these occults Nazis and also fascists who who did have an inner, like I said, it's so important to think about the occult inner core belief structure that made Nazis and fascism possible.
Speaker 2:They were never punished. They were brought in to to Argentina. They were brought into The United States through Operation Paperclip. They were put to work in Germany, you know, where Nazis like Reinhard Gehling, the Hitler's top intelligence chief was given control of the the the German German security apparatus, an intelligence apparatus that was run by Heinrich Gielen, unreconstructed highest level Nazi intelligence officer by Alan Dulles. And all of NATO's secret armies continued in different countries, Canada, in United States.
Speaker 2:They were supporting things like terrorist movements in the sixties, like the the Weather Underground or the the Red Brigades in in Germany and in Italy, which were, like, nominally, you know, Maoist Leninist terrorist groups setting up letter bombs. But when you actually look at what was running it, it wasn't Maoist and it wasn't Leninist. It it was Nazi. And it was Nazi be both Nazi as well as CIA MI six managed these groups. And they were done just like the the the later iteration of weaponized terrorist groups, which which grew especially a little bit before nine eleven, but especially after that, like ISIS as as proxies to keep the population afraid, terrorized of of of the unknown, of the other, and willing to give up their freedoms in order for for the state to protect them under Patriot Acts and things like that.
Speaker 2:But it's like these are not naturally occurring phenomena. Like, the idea of people wanting to just go out jihad and blow themselves up to to go and, you know, live with virgins in the in the afterlife is not the natural way of a human being living in an Arab community naturally flows. It's that that happens because they're radicalized through madrasas that have very peculiar interpretations of the Koran that emphasize certain things that that are being funded by the CIA and its proxies that radicalize a bunch of young people that give them no economic opportunity because we've destroyed those nations that they're that they're living in that that should have had economic opportunities that don't because we bomb them or we destroy them economically to keep them either sweat shops or extractive zones. And then people have despair. They don't have an idea of a future, but somebody now offers these kids, you know, a $100.
Speaker 2:They're radicalized. They got no sense of a future and they're offered a $100 a week to go and do certain things, you know, and and be flown somewhere to do things. And they'll they've got no choices in their mind. They got no knowledge. They got no developed moral compass in that sense because they've been so messed up by their their pseudo religious education system.
Speaker 2:And then they they find themselves increasingly be playing the role of proxies overthrowing governments in Mali, you know, as Boko Haram or in Libya as the Libyan shield or ISIS or in Syria and El Nusra there. So we're they're being but they're all disposable at the end of the day. Those who are actually top down running these different terrorist groups, they don't care about these Maoist Leninist, idiot, useful useful idiot kids in Italy or in France or in The USA in the sixties. They're they're totally all disposable, but the the effect is the key, and they wanna get people ultimately to to stumble into, a global funeral apparatus, basically, that might involve some trauma, some, you know, purgative bloodletting in order to help break people free of their traditions.
Speaker 1:So, basically, in one point that's emerged from what you what you've been discussing here, which I think if I is very fascinating, because I'm always trying to kind of uncover the layers of the onion, is that what we've seen really in the past one, two years, as you mentioned, is a this massive public rise in public discourse about the role of the Jews, right, and the Jewish bankers. And for a lot of people, they start discovering this, and they say, oh, look at APEC. And, well, look at all these politicians with dual citizenship of this and, like, oh, looking at Trace, the the it's it's the bankers. And, oh, wow. Look.
Speaker 1:The bankers, they're all they're all, you know you know, Goldstein and and something Berg and, you know, whatever. Yeah. And then you look into the control of Hollywood, and and and see these people that's like you know, they come to these conclusions and say, oh my goodness. It's it's the Jews. They run the world.
Speaker 1:Right? They're they're the ones that are controlling things. But I think that you made a good point in saying that, if I understand it, is that they above them aren't these religious Jews. Right? Above them, they're they're they're, you know, occultists.
Speaker 1:They're they're worshiping Satan. And that they're they will sacrifice the Jews, and they they will use that. And maybe they will want it. Like, maybe maybe the like, you think that, oh, well, now they're they're cracking down on antisemitism because we've figured them out. We figured out it's actually them.
Speaker 1:They're running things. But it could it actually be that at a higher level, they want that because they want to create these tensions between religions. They want the, say, the Christian nationalists to hate the the Christian Zionists. They want, you know, this this sect to hate this sect. Even, like, look at Laura Loomer, and she it's apparent.
Speaker 1:Like, she she spews a lot of hatred towards Muslims. Right? Like, that's one of her things. She you know, these people should be kicked out of the country. Look.
Speaker 1:Here's another example of a terrorist attack by this. But when you take a step even further, what you can see is actually controlled chaos. You can see that they in the same way that during in in China, right, they they create these groups. Right? The reds, the blacks, you know, the the landowners, the peasants, and they create this hatred between these groups, and and that's what allows them to maintain control and maintain power.
Speaker 1:And so as much as a lot of people think, oh, well, I've now got I know who runs the world. It's the Jews, and now we're gonna put pin everything on them that maybe the actual the real controllers, they want that because because to them, it's another it's another ideological split. Right? Same thing with, say, the the the Blacks in America versus the Whites in America. Now you now have these stronger white nationalist movements emerging, even people forming their own white only communities.
Speaker 1:Right? Because you know? And I understand. I understand completely the idea of wanting to to insulate yourself within your own culture and grow amongst your own culture and preserve your own culture, which I think is very important, because we've all been mixed up. I think a lot us are searching for these true cultural roots that have been severed over over generations of war and resettling and everything.
Speaker 1:And so from a higher level, even the what we're seeing between the Christians, the the Christians, the Christian Zionists, the the Jews, the Muslim populations is that we're seeing increased tension. Like, if if you take a step back, that's fundamentally what's happening, is this strong increased tension where group a says, oh, it's group b. Right? And, yeah, of course, if you look and you do the you do the research, like Ian Carroll's done the deep dives into this, whether it's the bankers or the heads of the financial institutions or Hollywood or, you know, key people in administrations, you say, oh, wow. They're all they're all Jewish.
Speaker 1:Right? So that leads people to think that, oh, that must be it. But maybe maybe that's what the controllers want. Like, they want people to pin it on someone because we're still focused on this other person. Because, you know, I used to work in the Diamond District in New York City, you know, for, like, probably a decade.
Speaker 1:Right? I worked very closely with a lot of Jews, a lot of Hasidic Jews, you know, very, very serious. And a lot of them were lovely people. Now some of them were cutthroat businessmen, and I, you know, I lost money, and I had to really protect myself. But I've also dealt with that in dealing with the Indians in the industry or even the Americans in the industry.
Speaker 1:It's not like there's one group that is they're all evil. Right? There were a lot of actually lovely people that I knew that whether they're Muslim or Jewish or Indian or Sikh or Buddhist, it didn't really matter. And so what I'm seeing, though, is as you get higher, it's actually a very simple strategy that's being employed globally, which is to create these divides and create these boxes and and get these boxes to hate each other and to blame all the world's woes on this other box when sitting up at top are these people that they're not Jewish. Maybe they they they hide within the Jewish community.
Speaker 1:They pretend to be, but they're actually Luciferians or they're, you know, who knows what. They're practicing some sort of ancient hidden, you know, mystery occult practice that traces back two thousand years ago, and that's what they're actually doing. But what's happening is that they're creating this massive division and and actual chaos. Right? Because right?
Speaker 1:Was it, you know, chaos from order. Right? Order from chaos. Right? I forget the the took my tongue, the Latin, order.
Speaker 2:Ab ab cowor.
Speaker 1:Exactly. Right? So order from chaos. And so but maybe so that if you look and say, okay. Well, their goal is to create so much chaos that that chaos dissolves national borders.
Speaker 1:It dissolves, you know, identities. It dissolves communities. It dissolves your own your own kind of racial identity so that they can then come in and say, look. The only solution to this is some sort of centralized global governance, global religion, global army. Because ultimately, if you want to be in control of the whole world, it would have to be some sort of centralized system, and and things like The United States constitution or The United States as a as a an independent nation, those things can't exist because that gives people an identity that doesn't allow them to be part of this centralized system.
Speaker 1:Is do you think is that a fair assessment? Am I following you with that?
Speaker 2:Well, it's very fair. Very very true. And, you know, I I think that in some cases, this is a term there's a term because I you point out one of my books is called Rosicrucian Golem. There's a Rosicrucian ritual, or concept of of, spiritual alchemy. And so the alchemists that that made up the foundation of a lot of the Kabbalist alchemist sort of synergy that created the foundation of the cosmology of the Rosicrucian orders that appeared in the in the in the in the the modern form in, the early sixteen hundreds, like 1614, but it existed before that.
Speaker 2:It just it took on as sort of a coming up party in the Rosicrucian sort of form, but it was already a thing before. So but there's this this notion that you can that you you you worship destruction because it it allows for creation. So they think that evil is the cause of good. Disorder causes order. Chaos causes creativity.
Speaker 2:And thus, if you want creativity, if you want the good, you have to increase the chaos, increase the evil in order for the good to emerge. It's a logical fallacy. It's something which anybody who had actually studied the platonic dialogues or Saint Augustine's dialogues would see very clearly where the the sophistry has been fused. Because the the the, you know, from the from the standpoint of I think much healthier human natural philosophy is it's understood that the cause flows through its effects. That an element of if want peace, you have to have as an effect.
Speaker 2:You have to involve peace within the cause of the effect. The mean or the otherwise said, the means don't justify the ends. So a lot of people, you know, do very bad things with the idea that, oh, but my ends are noble. You know, like Hitler would say the same thing, my ends are are world peace. Claus Schwab might have said the same thing.
Speaker 2:So that because the ends are are the the the effects are just all of the the messed up blood the immoral decisions and actions that are taken as causes to get to that effect becomes justified. It's not it's not justified. It never works that way. It runs contrary to God's intention in my assessment. It's like
Speaker 1:peace peace through war, freedom through slavery. Right? It's
Speaker 2:Yeah. Exactly. Yeah. Very Orwellian. It's the opposite game and that's what they like to play.
Speaker 2:But at the end of the day, you know, like, the thing that that I I hold in my mind is is that these alchemists that create things like the royal society, you know, like, is where a lot of the the thing we are told is modern science and thus the scalpel through which we're supposed to interpret the universe and human nature and and economics and the and the brain and and nature and everything and the laws of physics and biology, we're we're given a certain scaffolding standard models that have somehow become dominant. It doesn't mean that these are are right. It just means that they're standard in a sense that a grouping of anonymous experts with associated with political power have been incapable of imposing these norms onto the the thing we call modern science. But if you look at the origins of a lot of these major standard models in every branch of science, nothing is untouched. You'll find the root of it is found in this Rosicrucian operation that emerged out of the English civil war in 1650 that that gave rise to what what's known as the the royal society, the English royal society of that that shaped certain characters like Isaac Newton, Robert Hook, and Christopher Wray, others were all both alchemists doing black magic on the one hand and Kabbalism as Newton Newton was openly doing and all of his surviving papers have proven that he was obsessed with Kabbalah and numerology and astrology and alchemy and finding the philosopher's stone.
Speaker 2:There's no real science that's available that that we can attribute to Isaac Newton. So what appears has been the case is that the real scientists because the discoveries attributed to Newton were discoveries that somebody made, it's I don't think it was Newton. I think, know, it seems like when I when I trace the writings of the great scientists of the content of of Continental Europe who made the discoveries of the infinitesimal calculus, the language of non linear changes, like Godfrey Leibniz or universal gravitation, like Johannes Kepler. They were they were people who were using a method which is much healthier and much more premised around the idea of recognizing the the the divinity of of human beings as being made in the in the image of a reasonable, loving, rational creator that made creation rational and loving and good and beautiful. And by us making discoveries, in a disciplined fashion of self of utilizing a dialect internally, a method of investigating our axioms, our self examined hearts, our motives by constantly looking inward at the same time as we're looking outward and exploring the unknown to make discoveries, we not only become more mature and more natural, but we get better better powers of supporting more people at a higher standard of of living.
Speaker 2:We break free of the former limits of growth that our state of ignorance had imposed on us. And the oligarchy despises that. At the end of the day, that's Achilles heel, is that they're they work very hard to disrupt that natural quality of human beings, breaking free of the limits that are there in all other species of creation. They're you know, the rabbit's populations are relatively fixed based on the food and their power of reproduction, but that's probably it. If there's no food, the rabbit population collapses.
Speaker 2:The mommies eat the baby rabbits and that's what happens to regulate natural populations of things. Human beings could do that if we're being stupid and selfish, but if we're making discoveries, when we encounter scarcity or we encounter boundary conditions, we don't have to adapt to scarcity. We can encourage new discoveries and inventions and improve our our relationship to to God through science, the the higher true true science. And I and that's what I think the oligarchy has just been obsessed with derailing. And they can't destroy science.
Speaker 2:So the best thing if they they prefer to destroy it, they would they would like to destroy it. But if they can't destroy it, the next best thing is to try to co opt it and then redefine what this thing called science is that define that creates these artificial divides between human beings and faith. And and the idea that science is about secular rationality, that means we we can't believe in God anymore. We can't believe in moral principles anymore because science. You know, that's false.
Speaker 2:You can't science will never improve. That way, you can you can use you can memorize mathematical formulas and you can use techniques to, like, you know, manage things, but you won't be able to improve science. You'll always be adaptive like some Darwinian animal in a cage, which is why they want Darwinism to be promoted to justify the system of political controls that they want us to adapt into. Like like, we're seeing so many people not think outside the box when it comes to, you know, fifteen minute cities or, like, what do you what we know what doesn't work, but what does work. So few people seem to even have an inkling on how to think in those terms.
Speaker 2:So yeah.
Speaker 1:So this this is this is so fascinating. This is why I enjoy these conversations. And so you you touched on something, which is you mentioned that they're Achilles' heel. And it's interesting because this is what I've come to as much as I've spent. And I will continue to spend a lot of my time in my research understanding the the controllers, the powers that be.
Speaker 1:Right? You know, I I've become less and less interested in American politics and what's happening there, because I I just feel like it's it's just this giant charade in a lot of ways. And it's actually that's part of the purpose of it is because they don't want us going in. They don't want us seeking these answers within ourselves, within our communities, within our faith. They want us to try to seek these solutions via the ballot box or via some celebrity that might do something really important, right, to advance a cause.
Speaker 1:Or look at what happened with Elon Musk. Elon Musk starts talking about the constitution and some of these things. And all of a sudden, you have all these people that were probably, you know, very anti technocracy and everything now are worshiping Elon Musk. Right? He's, you know, strong conservatives.
Speaker 1:Oh, he's the hero, the MAGA movement. Yeah. He's up there with his his Baphomet suit on wearing his dark MAGA hat, there's all these indicators that maybe there's something not right about this, and maybe we shouldn't put him up on this massive pedestal and and think that he has the best interest because maybe it's part of some, you know, somewhat calculated goal to kinda lead us into some sort of technocracy, perhaps. Right? And so, but what I've come to is that the real solution in a lot of ways is just going inward to ourselves, you know, really fortifying our own ideas and principles of virtue, our own faith, building strong families, strong communities, building resilience among those communities, and I think worrying less about what the politicians and what the elites are doing and just focusing on that what I think is the most important aspect of the foundation of America is this recognition that as a human being, I have rights that are God given rights.
Speaker 1:And those rights supersede any government. Those rights supersede any billionaires, any trillionaires, any ancient bloodlines, that those rights actually are more powerful than the most powerful families on Earth because those rights, I truly believe, were given to me by God, and they are recognized by God. And the I think that the the tactic the evil has used is to make us forget that and make us think that the rights are given by man and make us think that we have to go ask for permission from man for these rights. And so I think that this is what, you know, I'm seeing is like, okay. What's the solution to all this?
Speaker 1:It's like, okay. Well, we're ruled by secret societies on top of secret societies, ruled by Luciferian, you know, occultists and all this stuff. Right? What do we do? And it's like, we just go back into our own selves.
Speaker 1:Right? Because God I I believe that God is in all of us. God can speak to us. Right? We have a soul, I believe, that was created by God.
Speaker 1:And that's something that, again, supersedes all of this. And, actually, in lot of ways, it simplifies it all as well.
Speaker 2:No. But I agree. I mean, that is the most important thing. Like, a lot of people, they they they skip steps, and that's part of the way the Mazzini program was able to subvert and operate was that they had adjust they were able to rally people around a sense of justice and a hate of injustice that they would that that these people and their target populations, whether the young Europe movement here I'm talking like eighteen forties, eighteen fifties, or even the color revolutionary people with the people who were targeted for manipulation to overthrow their governments in, in Ukraine or Georgia in 2003, 2004, 2014, or or the Arab Spring, you know. A lot of it was this was made possible by a bunch of young people who had legitimate grievances to real injustices that they despise.
Speaker 2:They had despair of the future, but they didn't take the time to properly understand themselves, their soul. They didn't exam self examine their priorities and get to know who they were and what they were made out of before they jumped straight into pre premature action. And thus, they didn't take the time to understand what was the terrain that they're operating in. And before they knew it, they were participating in the self annihilation of their own society and the foundation upon which their kids would be able to have a future as we're seeing now so many young people being sent to the front lines in Ukraine to just be killed in a proxy war to weaken Russia. And they're all disposable, but these are the kids of a lot of people who participated in this these democracy, sorrows funded democracy movements that overthrew governments that actually were viable, were trying to look out for them, but they were stepping on the toes of the city of London.
Speaker 2:So I think you're right. Like, we definitely need to spend a lot more time, self examining and, like, building up proper a proper character for ourselves through the relations relations that we have. And I wouldn't I wouldn't encourage people to necessarily, like, let go of action. I don't I think that action is important and and thinking about top down policy is is very important. But to just do that without doing the most important thing, like you said, like, strengthen the commitment to God and, you know, read platonic dialogue.
Speaker 2:Like, I I I tell people, like, hey, what they're like, what can I read to to help me understand how to fight the empire? And, like, well, read Plato. Like, I mean, just read the platonic dialogues. He's, you know, the you're it's like going to the gym. Well, we we care about, like, eating eating and drinking well and going to the gym for the body, but, I mean, to strengthen the mind.
Speaker 2:He's he's giving us all sorts of tools in those dialogues on how to expand our our appreciation for the things that the oligarchy is afraid of. That's that's basically the thing, you know. And when you know that you have an enemy that's that's evil, look for the things that it is afraid of. Right? What was and and I think the same thing can be said for the early Christians too, you know, like, they they were unbeatable in that sense, though they weren't necessarily trying to take political action and take control of Rome.
Speaker 2:But it was a phenomenon that was like a breath of fresh air. Was light in the darkness that people had such normalized evil all around them in in the Roman pagan Roman world that when all of a sudden you had these sublime messages and teachings so reasonably delivered and with such sublime, you know, self dignity by people who were despised, but yet they were so, you know, they were so good, and they they took even threats to their lives with grace. Like, this this is the sort of thing that I think we we really need to explore a lot more of at this time for sure. So I I yes. I endorse your remarks.
Speaker 2:It's my my quick my long winded way of saying I endorse what you just said.
Speaker 1:That's great. Well, Matt, in conclusion, I think we we we keep going, we'll we'll do this again, you know, sooner than we did, you know, between this and the last show. I wanna pull up your your Substack, because which is important. I'll make sure the link is also in the description. Just matthewerrett.substack.com, and your your last name is e h r e t.
Speaker 1:So Errett. So your substack is a wealth of information. On top of that, you've got multiple books. You you're just you're producing stuff constantly. Right?
Speaker 1:Which I I really appreciate. So I encourage people to go follow you on there. Like, pull up your, your your Twitter account, which I'll put in the description as well. It's, oops. Let me just refresh that real quick.
Speaker 1:It's just, erit underscore matthew. This is your Twitter account. Yeah. I Matthew, it's it's been great speaking to you. As usual, I feel like that my mind has expanded, and I have a lot of things to think about.
Speaker 1:And I need to go dust off my my copies of, you know, Marcus Aurelius and Plato and some of the earlier thinkers to to kind of hone my my thinking skill, which is which is important. But I appreciate what you're doing. I appreciate, you giving me your time and just the the effort that you've put in in researching and and not just researching for yourself, but researching so you can then educate people. I think you've done a great job of doing that.
Speaker 2:Thank you, Seth. I I appreciate that immensely. Take care.
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