Change the Narrative

Alicia Borja, a former Air Force security forces member and federal agent, transitioned to a career in the creative arts, focusing on acting, writing, directing, and founding the Desert Waves Film Festival (DWFF). The festival, now in its second year, aims to showcase local talent and community engagement, with plans to double attendance to over 200 people. DWFF includes live music and workshops, and a $15 screening fee is planned. Borja also produces content, including a proof-of-concept series and a podcast, "Unclassified," featuring veterans and creatives. She emphasizes the importance of networking and learning through experience.

What is Change the Narrative?

We are reshaping or challenging prevailing perspectives on current events. "Change The Narrative" reflects an intention to not only inform but also inspire listeners to engage with current events thoughtfully and proactively.

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Rico White 0:22
the and welcome, welcome, welcome to the hottest show on the planet. See, that's new this time. I'm your host, Rico White, and I'm here with

Sarah Fernandez 0:37
Sarah Fernandez. Oh, that's just my name in Spanish.

Rico White 0:44
I thought it was Sarita.

Sarah Fernandez 0:45
It's Sarah Fernandez.

Rico White 0:47
Sara, okay, that'll work. Whatever. Okay. Anyway, so I'm joined in the in the studio with a companion of ours by the name of Steve Miller, Steve, say hello. Steve Miller, checking in. Greetings from Las Vegas. Okay, and we are also joined with a legend in her own mind. Wow, legend in her own mind. And she is here, and we are joined by the wonderful great Alicia Borja. Did I say that right?

Alicia Borja 1:21
Alicia Borja,

Rico White 1:22
Alicia Borja got a roll of heart. Hey, why don't you tell us a little bit about yourself?

Alicia Borja 1:32
Yes, so I am about to retire from the service Air Force 20 years. Yeah, yeah, I decided I was like, I'm ready to exercise my right to be a full and free human being,

Rico White 1:45
a civilian,

Alicia Borja 1:47
civilian, yeah.

Rico White 1:48
It's a rough transition,

Alicia Borja 1:50
it is, but I'm glad I've had this time to really kind of figure out what it is I'm doing. I've focused on the creative arts, so actress, writer, director, and now a film and music festival director, founder.

Rico White 2:06
Okay, and we'll talk about that. Yeah, absolutely. So you said you were in the service. What you do in the service?

Alicia Borja 2:12
I was a security forces member, aka cop, and then I was also a federal agent.

Rico White 2:16
What's a federal agent?

Alicia Borja 2:18
Federal agent. We were like FBI for the Air Force.

Rico White 2:20
Oh, you go, girl, that'll work, okay. FBI, so you investigated people.

Alicia Borja 2:26
Yes, I had so many friends, people loved me,

Rico White 2:29
I can only imagine. So you are bringing a wealth of information and experience and everything to this show today. So we're just going to start on, we're going to talk about this career journey. Can you share your journey, because you said director, producer, actress, all that good stuff. So share your journey in the film industry and what inspired you to pursue acting, producing, and directing.

Alicia Borja 2:56
Yeah, so when I decided I was going to leave active duty, I transitioned to the reserves in 2021 and had to think, what is it that brought me joy before I joined the military, and I did theater, and I loved writing, so I said, okay, I'm gonna focus on that, you know, and of course, you know, telling my mom that she's like, you're gonna be a starving artist living under the bridge, homeless, and I was like, it'll be fine, mom, even during the shutdown, but so I just really explored those avenues, and it's organically led me to great people, great gigs. There's just so much information out there. If you just ask, a lot of people will tell you where to find the jobs or where to meet network, and that's what's built me up to doing the film and music festival.

Rico White 3:49
Okay,

Sarah Fernandez 3:49
what does your mom think about it now?

Alicia Borja 3:51
She's a supporter now.

Rico White 3:54
Oh, she, she's a supporter now.

Alicia Borja 3:55
Yeah,

Rico White 3:56
what made her.. what it made her..

Alicia Borja 3:58
she's probably not gonna like me telling this, but

Rico White 4:00
okay.

Alicia Borja 4:01
We butted heads for a little bit,

Rico White 4:04
alrighty,

Alicia Borja 4:05
yeah, but it, it, I told her, was like, look, I'm the daughter you raised, you know, so I'm out here doing what you said I should always do and pursue my dreams, and I kind of threw it at, threw it back at her, and was like, you know, are you afraid of me meeting my dreams, like, because you feel like you didn't.

Sarah Fernandez 4:24
Wow,

Alicia Borja 4:25
yeah.

Sarah Fernandez 4:26
Well, you know, they say the apple doesn't fall too far from the tree, may roll a little bit, but not too far.

Alicia Borja 4:30
Yeah. And then, but what's nice now, she's retired and pursuing her dreams, which is being an artist, teaching art, painting.

Rico White 4:38
Oh, okay,

Alicia Borja 4:39
yeah.

Rico White 4:40
So the apple didn't fall far from the tree from a creative perspective. Okay, so does 2024 the year DWFF, mean anything to you?

Alicia Borja 4:52
Desert Ways Film

Rico White 4:53
Festival. Ah, girl, look at you, we're on the same page. What inspired you to create Desert. Wave Film Festival, and what are your goals for the festival in terms of showcasing new talent and diverse stories? I like that question.

Alicia Borja 5:08
That's a, that's a lot. I'll try to address every part of that.

Rico White 5:12
Should I repeat

Alicia Borja 5:13
it one more time? From ADHD Brain,

Rico White 5:15
okay? That makes two of us. What inspired you to create the Desert Waves Film Festival. Don't write. Can you pass that?

Sarah Fernandez 5:26
She wants to make sure she covers everything that you threw at her number two. Long sentence.

Rico White 5:30
Number two, the pause that you guys hear is her concentrating on how to answer the question. So we will be back after this

Alicia Borja 5:41
commercial break,

Alicia Borja 5:41
yes. So, what inspired me to create the film festival is when I started entering into creating films and wanting to know, like, what is there out here for us to showcase our work. There, there are a few well-established film festivals, and I've traveled to other ones

Rico White 6:02
like Tribeca, and

Alicia Borja 6:03
I've been to South by

Rico White 6:06
Southwest, okay,

Alicia Borja 6:07
but out here there's the Nevada Women's, there's Boulder City, the Damn Short Film Festival, and I was like, oh, well, I'd like to try and provide more opportunity, because why not, and also trying to bring together our community. My focus was more on bringing together the community through events and workshops and stuff like that.

Rico White 6:29
Okay,

Alicia Borja 6:30
and then seeing that we could showcase more local filmmakers and talent, I was like, why not give a special place for that?

Sarah Fernandez 6:40
Okay, what do you expect to see different this year?

Alicia Borja 6:44
We have live music added this year, so we are doing film screenings and live music, so local artists as well will be performing.

Sarah Fernandez 6:53
How many people do you usually have at the festival?

Alicia Borja 6:56
We had over a little over 100 last year, but we're looking to double that

Sarah Fernandez 7:00
nice

Alicia Borja 7:00
this year.

Rico White 7:01
Okay, okay. And you deal with a lot of indies, right? In the film community,

Alicia Borja 7:06
yes.

Rico White 7:06
And you also do workshops, if I'm not mistaken.

Alicia Borja 7:09
We do, yeah. We do workshops throughout the year to help teach people the basics of filming, lighting, sound. It's different every year.

Rico White 7:16
Mixers, too.

Alicia Borja 7:17
Yep, every month.

Rico White 7:18
Do you really? Yeah. Oh, I didn't know that.

Sarah Fernandez 7:22
You've been stunned.

Alicia Borja 7:23
Yeah,

Alicia Borja 7:24
he's like, 'I thought I did my research

Rico White 7:25
right. Yeah, I didn't see that part. And then you do a lot of submissions from filmmakers,

Alicia Borja 7:31
yep,

Rico White 7:32
from here and abroad

Alicia Borja 7:34
all over the world.

Rico White 7:35
That's what's up.

Sarah Fernandez 7:36
Can anybody come to this?

Alicia Borja 7:38
Oh, yeah. Is

Sarah Fernandez 7:38
there a fee to get in?

Alicia Borja 7:40
There

Sarah Fernandez 7:40
is what's the fee,

Alicia Borja 7:41
so this year, since we're doing the film and music, and it's two days, we're looking at doing a pass. We haven't nailed down the actual price for that, but our screening in June for the contest, the filmmaker contest, our summer shorts contest, that's going to be $15

Rico White 7:57
military discount.

Alicia Borja 7:58
You know, I didn't think about that. Maybe we'll, we'll do something like that for the festival in October.

Rico White 8:04
Okay, what kind of, what kind of groups are going to be there? I mean, but you're talking, uh, you have a music festival too, right?

Alicia Borja 8:12
Yes, so the festival in October, we're gonna, we've partnered with Nothing to Do in Las Vegas, so Coco Jenkins is curating the lineup for that.

Rico White 8:21
Okay,

Alicia Borja 8:21
all

Rico White 8:22
right. If

Sarah Fernandez 8:22
somebody wants to go, what do they need to do, or how do they buy their ticket? Or

Alicia Borja 8:28
they can check us out on Instagram and see what all our updates are. So, Desert Waves Film Music Festival on Instagram. Okay, we have our website, Desert Waves Film Fest, and can they

Rico White 8:40
go to Grand Finale, Ally the Grand Finale.

Alicia Borja 8:44
Yeah, they can find me on Instagram too, like they could reach out, ask questions. It's me on the social, so I'm there to answer whatever questions they have.

Rico White 8:53
Okay, okay. Let's switch it up. Excuse me for one moment. No, no. Number three. The third question I have in this wonderful, wonderful conversation I'm having with you is, your role in something you produced? Oh, yeah, you produced this, and it was called Airman. What was your experience like producing that short film, Airman, and what are the themes or messages you hope the audience take away from it? Yeah, the

Alicia Borja 9:30
biggest one for that, it was a proof of concept for a television series that me and another veteran were wanting to put together, and we wanted people to see that people who serve her are people at the end of the day. A lot of people think military, oh, they're just mindless drones, they're just following orders, they're like, no, we're people, and we all join for different reasons. We all come from various backgrounds, and I wanted to highlight the humanity in. In serving,

Sarah Fernandez 10:01
I got a different question for you. How was it working with Morgan Freeman in my dead friend Zoe?

Alicia Borja 10:07
That was really interesting, because we didn't even know that he was signed on. They didn't confirm it until the day of. They wanted to keep everything under wraps, and so meeting him in person and getting to shake the hand of God, that was, that was pretty cool. Yeah,

Rico White 10:25
that's right. He did play God, right?

Alicia Borja 10:29
Yeah, and he's sharp, he's got a sharp wit.

Rico White 10:32
Oh, really? Okay,

Alicia Borja 10:34
yeah, because when he came into, like, we all were seated in our, like, group therapy session for the scene, and so he comes in, and we're doing introductions. I'm the first person he walks up to, and so I'm like, oh man, I'm about to take a sound like it's such an honor to meet you. I'm so excited to work with you. And then he stops and is like, yeah, don't bother telling me your name, I won't remember it anyway.

Sarah Fernandez 11:00
Threw you all

Alicia Borja 11:01
fun

Rico White 11:02
was that that scene that everybody was sitting around and everybody, somebody got smart, and then she jumps up, and okay, I know what it is. Okay, see, I watched it

Alicia Borja 11:14
on Amazon.

Rico White 11:16
Hey, what was the experience? How did that experience shape your perspective on acting and filmmaking?

Alicia Borja 11:24
That being on that set was amazing, because first it was written and directed by a veteran, and really, so Kyle Hausmann Stokes, yeah, he made that story, it was based on people he actually knew and served with, and so these are real stories that he's put together, and he made sure that there are as many veterans as possible, like everyone in that group therapy session was a veteran. Yes,

Rico White 11:50
it was almost like real. Oh, wow, sharing real stories.

Alicia Borja 11:53
Yeah, so a lot of what we said in that group therapy session were from our lives. We basically played ourselves with a different name.

Sarah Fernandez 12:01
Well, you know, even though we got Rico, I'm gonna go woman to woman. What were some of your biggest challenges facing as a woman in the female industry?

Alicia Borja 12:12
I think for me personally, in my demographic and age group of being in my 40s now, I feel like I'm in a little bit of a dead man zone, because a lot of stories feature women in their early 20s, and then maybe your 30s, but then it's like not a lot of roles until your Grace and Frankie age, you know, like 70s,

Sarah Fernandez 12:41
gotcha,

Rico White 12:42
okay. Okay, all right, but you do have, like, a lot of experience now doing films and short films and verticals.

Alicia Borja 12:52
That's what I'm trying to get

Alicia Borja 12:53
in.

Rico White 12:55
You know what, since we have a guest here, and his name is Steve Miller. Steve, you got any questions that you want to ask Alicia?

Steve Miller 13:09
No, I do want to thank Alicia, though, because when we had our initial discussions, when I first introduced her to the project, into the concept of the project, she had mentioned to me for the first time verticals, and I was really not familiar with that, and

Sarah Fernandez 13:27
what

Steve Miller 13:28
had had to go out and study and research it, and was really,

Rico White 13:31
my guy

Steve Miller 13:32
was excited, because now

Rico White 13:34
excited,

Steve Miller 13:35
now I get

Rico White 13:35
understatement,

Steve Miller 13:36
now I get to elevate my skill set to a whole other level.

Rico White 13:40
What is it, 916 nine? 916 right?

Steve Miller 13:44
Yeah,

Rico White 13:44
I think that's what it

Steve Miller 13:45
is. And, of course, every photographer's dream: get new gear,

Alicia Borja 13:50
you got it? Yeah,

Alicia Borja 13:53
ball of Steve over here. Me, I'm just like, I'll turn my camera to the right, turn it

Rico White 13:58
to put

Sarah Fernandez 13:58
it on the dresser to get that higher angle.

Rico White 14:01
Yes, and put something in front of it, so there's nothing on the side,

Rico White 14:05
and it's just

Rico White 14:05
like right here, right?

Alicia Borja 14:07
Creative

Alicia Borja 14:08
frame,

Rico White 14:08
that's right. So,

Sarah Fernandez 14:11
as both an actor and a producer, How do you balance your creative vision with the particular aspects of filmmaking?

Alicia Borja 14:17
Balance, what balance

Sarah Fernandez 14:18
is that?

Alicia Borja 14:20
It's basically what you are able to pick up, what's really popping off, and then you focus on that, and then it kind of ebbs and flows, and then if that, you know, slows down a little bit, you pick up another aspect, and you run with it for a little bit, so it's more so just having a lot of things you can pick up and put down,

Sarah Fernandez 14:42
so what balance?

Rico White 14:44
I know there's not a whole lot of balance, because I was watching this thing on verticals. Let's

Alicia Borja 14:48
just

Rico White 14:49
use that as an example.

Alicia Borja 14:50
Yeah,

Rico White 14:50
and they shot the whole thing in like seven days.

Alicia Borja 14:55
They moved fast,

Rico White 14:56
they were moving insane. It was an hour and a half on on. Screen that I watched, but they did it in seven days. We're talking 60 episodes, when you have to chop it up and do everything, and I'm like, man, but it was really off the chain, like, you know, it grabs you, and it's like, okay, what next? What next? Yeah, what next?

Alicia Borja 15:16
They did that

Sarah Fernandez 15:17
a lot on the online

Alicia Borja 15:19
reels, reels,

Rico White 15:20
yeah, drama box,

Alicia Borja 15:23
yep, drama box is a big one,

Rico White 15:24
a big one, and then it got an international one, but I can't think of the name off the top of my head, but anyway, so if I had to ask this question, this is a good question, Who are your biggest influences in the film industry, and how have they impacted your work

Alicia Borja 15:45
in the film industry?

Rico White 15:48
And it could be actress, it could be producer, it could be director, it could be executive director.

Sarah Fernandez 15:53
You know, he's just saying, who did you see on TV that you said I want to be like them? So, can I also include television? Yeah,

Rico White 16:00
absolutely.

Alicia Borja 16:01
Okay, and I know I'm so, so bad with the names, but starting as a kid watching X-Files,

Rico White 16:08
that is, my girl comes on every day at 9o'clock Yep. And right before that, Grim comes on.

Alicia Borja 16:15
Yeah, yeah, watched. Yep, watched Olive Grim, older,

Rico White 16:18
and Scully.

Alicia Borja 16:19
Yes,

Rico White 16:20
and I don't like the old, the new ones now, because they got John, and

Alicia Borja 16:25
yeah,

Rico White 16:25
yeah,

Alicia Borja 16:26
because watching X-Files, she was like one of the only female characters during that time that was like strong,

Rico White 16:33
strong,

Alicia Borja 16:34
yeah,

Rico White 16:34
and she's still strong, even though it's a bunch of reruns, yep,

Alicia Borja 16:39
so she

Alicia Borja 16:39
was like the first inspiration there for just being like a strong female character, you know, that can really stand on her own.

Rico White 16:48
But what's her name? Her name is Jillian

Steve Miller 16:54
Jillian Gillian

Steve Miller 16:54
Anderson,

Rico White 16:55
Jillian Anderson. Yes, yes, Red Head, true redhead.

Alicia Borja 16:59
Yep,

Rico White 17:00
okay, any Anybody else?

Alicia Borja 17:03
And then, when it came to.. well, also, was it Marissa? She's in Law and Order, SVU. Oh,

Rico White 17:12
yeah. Her parents are famous.

Alicia Borja 17:15
Oh, Mariska

Steve Miller 17:16
Hargitay.

Rico White 17:16
Yes, her parents are.. who are her parents?

Steve Miller 17:19
Jane Mansfield and Mickey Hargajay.

Sarah Fernandez 17:21
We've got the encyclopedia of actors here, and show Steve Mellor.

Steve Miller 17:26
Well, that's why I kept sending Rico those lists of actors, and he was like these people.

Alicia Borja 17:30
Okay,

Rico White 17:31
and what is

Alicia Borja 17:33
Pi 3.71 Was it three point 3.14 Yeah, 3.1478 Yeah,

Rico White 17:39
theory of relativity, Pythagorean theorem,

Sarah Fernandez 17:42
okay. Okay, enough.

Alicia Borja 17:44
A squared plus b squared equal c squared.

Sarah Fernandez 17:48
Do you have any upcoming projects you're particularly excited about, either an actress, as an actress, or producer,

Rico White 17:54
or director?

Alicia Borja 17:55
Yeah, so because, like I said, I've got a lot of things I'm just picking up and putting down, but I'm working on a project with my friend Zabee. She's also making vertical content, so I'm acting in one of her projects later this month. Yeah,

Rico White 18:13
can we come to the set?

Alicia Borja 18:14
It's way out in, like, the desert, two hour drive.

Rico White 18:18
Yeah, I don't really want to come out to the desert.

Alicia Borja 18:20
I'm a

Sarah Fernandez 18:20
driver, I can drive.

Rico White 18:22
Oh, then maybe,

Alicia Borja 18:23
and then I'm also trying to make just some of my own content fun, like stories that I've had in my head that I don't care if I play all the characters and make it fun for myself. At least I'm creating something, and then also there's some films that I've been cast in that hopefully production starts like as soon as early next year.

Sarah Fernandez 18:49
Okay,

Alicia Borja 18:50
yeah,

Sarah Fernandez 18:50
okay, a lot of things lined up.

Alicia Borja 18:52
Yeah, I mean, and then also the film and music festival that keeps me busy all the time.

Rico White 18:56
Okay, gotta work. That's that's a lot. I would be like, oh Lord,

Sarah Fernandez 19:04
what advice would you give to any spying filmmakers or actors who want to break into the industry?

Rico White 19:08
Are you reading off a piece of paper or something?

Sarah Fernandez 19:10
No, I'm looking at you, trying to figure out if I should say it the right way or should I make it corny enough, is the way you sound sometimes. I'm just saying, don't try to put me on this poster. I am one.

Alicia Borja 19:24
I will, I will say, when it comes to advice, see what works for you, because I've gotten so much advice spanning from so many different people with experience and background, and just see what works for you, because the industry is changing so fast.

Rico White 19:39
Yes, it is.

Alicia Borja 19:40
That find out what works for you.

Sarah Fernandez 19:43
That's true. Because didn't we hear stories of people doing stuff on AI, and they have no producing or any other experience that you have? Because it looks like you've been doing this for a long time now.

Alicia Borja 19:53
I'd say about a solid four four years.

Sarah Fernandez 19:57
Okay.

Rico White 19:58
Really, that's good. That is good, but what about up and coming producers and directors, and what advice you have for them? Same thing,

Alicia Borja 20:06
get out there and get on projects.

Rico White 20:09
Is there anything wrong? I mean, is there any like wrong way to do anything? I mean,

Alicia Borja 20:17
you know, I would say get out there, learn through helping and supporting before asking for anything. Yeah, because I would say try and learn and help before you're just like, hey, do this for me.

Alicia Borja 20:33
Okay,

Alicia Borja 20:35
so like, build those genuine connections.

Sarah Fernandez 20:37
Networking is key.

Rico White 20:39
Oh, yeah, definitely. So, in your own opinion, okay? What role does film play in shaping societal narratives, and how do you hope your work will contribute to that?

Alicia Borja 20:53
I love films or projects with layers, and

Rico White 20:57
when you say layers, what kind of layers?

Alicia Borja 20:59
Like complex emotions, moral dilemmas, to where nobody is really the bad guy. There's no real villain. People just have to make choices, and you don't always know how they're going to play out, but you know you acted in the moment with what you could.

Rico White 21:16
Wow, that is deep. So they can, so not necessarily adversarial, you know, I mean, they could be the bad guy, but not really be the bad guy, they're just trying to get an understanding of what's really going on, you know,

Alicia Borja 21:29
yeah, because that's, I think that's more real life,

Rico White 21:32
life is something, yeah, we could help have a whole conversation about life,

Alicia Borja 21:36
yeah, because right now it's like you could look back and see, like, ooh, I know that decision I made there. Now I can see how it played out, but you didn't know that when you made the decision.

Rico White 21:45
Do you have any regrets?

Alicia Borja 21:48
No, because I always look at them as like learning opportunities. Are there some that really kicked me in the butt? Oh, absolutely. But I learned.

Rico White 21:59
Tell me about unclassified,

Alicia Borja 22:02
the unclassified

Rico White 22:03
podcast, podcast,

Alicia Borja 22:04
yeah, yeah, so that's that's my podcast. I've been doing that for four years now. I had a pot of bursary back in February, potassary, yeah, I've interviewed probably around 200 people here locally and out of state, and it started with another veteran friend, and we were focusing on interviewing veterans who had transitioned into the film and television industry to try and pick their brains, because we didn't know anything, but then also, why gatekeep that information? We wanted other people to hear it, and then when she had to step away from the podcast, and I kept it going, and I was like, you know, I'm gonna expand it to creatives and entrepreneurs and people who are just outside of the regular nine to five, because a lot of people, if you've only done a nine to five or a corporate job, you have no understanding of what exists outside of that, and there's so much, there's so much, and especially in the creative world, it's really choose your own adventure. Yeah, there's no road map.

Rico White 23:13
Tell me about doing things while you're scared

Alicia Borja 23:17
all the time, and in fact, I've been trying to challenge myself, it's like, if it makes me nervous or something, I was like, I should do that, because it's getting me out of my comfort zone.

Rico White 23:25
Does that happen a lot?

Alicia Borja 23:28
Not as much as it used to, because I think after a lot of working on myself through either therapy, meditation, journaling, whatever, worked through a lot of the imposter syndrome that I used to have, nervousness of, like, you know, am I capable, and all that stuff, and it's like really just believing in myself more, try to have a little bit of that audacity every now and

Rico White 23:54
then. Okay, what are some of your, your current goals, tangible and intangible, short range and long range.

Alicia Borja 24:02
Let's see, a short range goal that's tangible,

Alicia Borja 24:09
getting

Alicia Borja 24:10
the summer shorts festival screening done. That's June 19, so

Rico White 24:15
that's right around the corner,

Alicia Borja 24:16
right around the

Alicia Borja 24:17
corner. Quick,

Alicia Borja 24:18
yeah, yeah, we have 11. 11 teams now, yeah, 11 teams now in the contest, yeah.

Rico White 24:28
Okay,

Alicia Borja 24:28
so we want to make sure that we do have a really good event for them, that's the short range.

Rico White 24:33
What does that entail?

Alicia Borja 24:34
We're going to be screening at Third Street the films that they made for this contest,

Rico White 24:39
okay.

Alicia Borja 24:40
All right,

Rico White 24:42
um I

Sarah Fernandez 24:43
want to go back to the festival. Quick question for you.

Alicia Borja 24:46
Sure,

Sarah Fernandez 24:46
is there anybody that's bringing something new this year that you're looking forward to that you know of? So far,

Rico White 24:53
good question.

Alicia Borja 24:53
Yeah, I think the teams are all making something, I mean, we've never seen before, and we left. Open-ended to where it was, pick your own genre, pick whatever. So, I'm excited to see what they put together.

Sarah Fernandez 25:08
All right,

Alicia Borja 25:09
because

Sarah Fernandez 25:09
I know that's got to be a little heck. You got a lot going on, so I know that's got to be a little hectic. You know, setting this up for the festival. I think I just live on projects. I

Alicia Borja 25:19
live in the land of DeLulu. I just say the Lulu is a Salu, I just tell myself, you know, it's all gonna work out, it'll all be fine. Okay, do that.

Rico White 25:28
So, is there anything else that you want to tell us about yourself or tell us that's going on in the near future that you want people to partake in? Is there anything that we don't know or that we haven't talked about that, you would like. I'm

Alicia Borja 25:41
a Leo.

Alicia Borja 25:43
My name is Larry.

Sarah Fernandez 25:46
I like long walks in the park.

Steve Miller 25:50
Let's hear for us Leos.

Alicia Borja 25:51
I'm a big foodie. Yeah, not, not much. Any, if anybody's interested, we have a networking event coming up May 20-first at Audio Bar, six to 8pm It's open to everybody, free.

Rico White 26:07
Where's it at again?

Alicia Borja 26:08
Audio Bar,

Rico White 26:09
Audio Bar, don't know where that

Alicia Borja 26:11
is. It's in the Arts District. We try to have a lot of our

Alicia Borja 26:13
events in the Arts

Rico White 26:13
District. Alrighty,

Alicia Borja 26:15
because we want, we feel like that's the heart of Vegas, and more people should see

Rico White 26:19
it. Okay, anything else you wanna, you want people to know, anything else you want to do, anything else you want to accomplish? Everything, so many things. We need a whole nother show for that. Oh, shoot, we'll have to. You might have to expand on it on your podcast.

Alicia Borja 26:34
Absolutely.

Sarah Fernandez 26:35
Okay, girl, do you? You are so special.

Rico White 26:40
Okay. Well, this is - we're coming to an end now. So, I just want to thank you so much from the bottom of my heart for coming on our show. We really appreciate that.

Alicia Borja 26:51
No, thank you.

Sarah Fernandez 26:53
Definite pleasure,

Rico White 26:54
absolutely. And your experience, and all that good stuff, it's got my head spinning, and it's like, dang, dang, we could do this, dang, we could do this, dang, we could, we could do a podcast, we could do all of that stuff, so

Alicia Borja 27:08
all of it,

Rico White 27:08
we appreciate you, so again, I'm here with my sidekick,

Sarah Fernandez 27:12
Sarah Fernandez,

Rico White 27:13
out of

Sarah Fernandez 27:14
Nevada,

Rico White 27:15
see, I was giving you, say Nevada,

Sarah Fernandez 27:17
don't mess

Alicia Borja 27:18
it up,

Alicia Borja 27:18
I had to fix myself after so many years, too.

Rico White 27:20
I still, still say Nevada. It's in, yeah. So that means you're really not from Nevada.

Alicia Borja 27:27
Just

Sarah Fernandez 27:27
because you say it correctly does not mean that.

Rico White 27:31
Well, I'm not from Nevada. So, but anyway, and then our other partner in crime, his name

Steve Miller 27:39
is Steve Miller.

Rico White 27:40
Steve, real quick, you didn't tell anybody that you are a world-renowned photographer, and you have your own studio.

Steve Miller 27:48
Yes,

Rico White 27:48
which is located at.. are you allowed to get that out yet?

Steve Miller 27:52
Uh, yeah, 321 Casino Center Drive,

Rico White 27:55
and he does all of the film work for celebrities and non-celebrities, and all of that. So, if you're interested in getting your picture taken, I don't even know if that's what you call it in the industry. Your picture taken:

Sarah Fernandez 28:07
head shots,

Rico White 28:08
head shots, body shots,

Sarah Fernandez 28:12
the shots,

Rico White 28:14
you know, pineapple shots, or whatever. Our website, or Instagram, or do you have an Instagram?

Steve Miller 28:23
I certainly do.

Rico White 28:23
What

Steve Miller 28:24
is it? It's three gen photo imaging Vegas. The three gen actually stands for my initials, which are SGM. It was my grandfather, father, and myself. We all have the same initials, and he, they got me into photography initially.

Rico White 28:39
Okay, Jim,

Steve Miller 28:40
three gen J third generation.

Alicia Borja 28:44
Oh,

Sarah Fernandez 28:45
well, because you know some people be like G or J,

Steve Miller 28:48
or so you just one more time, one more time, it's S G m3 oh G N

Rico White 28:54
G M G E M

Steve Miller 28:56
G Gen,

Rico White 28:57
oh Jen.

Steve Miller 28:58
Yeah, so my Instagram is three gen photo imaging Vegas,

Rico White 29:03
so if you want some head shots or shots, period, right over there at three gen photo generation

Steve Miller 29:10
photo imaging Vegas,

Rico White 29:11
photo imaging, just listen to him. I appreciate you guys. We will be back next week and appreciate it. I'm your host again, Rico White, and this is the greatest show on the planet. We will see you next week. Thank

Rico White 29:30
you.

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