The Unfunded Podcast

This episode is sponsored by Official Beer Co.
Produced by Podfire

After a delayed start, Lockie and Lleyton are back to unpack a huge week in triathlon. Lleyton prepares for his long-awaited return to racing in China after 11 months out, reflecting on injury recovery, training progression, and the mental side of being sidelined.

The boys dive into the growing depth of competition, highlighted by a stacked Gold Coast start list and what it says about the sport’s rapid growth in Oceania. They also break down the rising run standard in triathlon, reacting to standout performances like Cassandra Bogrand’s blistering 10K and what it means for the future of the sport.

There’s discussion around World Triathlon’s controversial decision to allow Russian and Belarusian junior and U23 athletes to compete under their national flags, exploring both the political and athlete welfare implications.

They also highlight a positive shift from Triathlon Australia, with para athletes now receiving prize money for podium performances, before analysing Matt Hauser’s disrupted start to the season and what his move towards T100 racing could mean long term.

The episode wraps with insights into training philosophies, upcoming races, and the ever-evolving demands of elite triathlon performance.  

What is The Unfunded Podcast?

Where triathlon meets real talk. Hosted by two seasoned triathletes and one Sarah, this podcast takes a deep dive into the controversies, challenges, and triumphs of the triathlete world.

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Lleyton
Oh, he goes in front. Bradley would help the younger every ounce of courage. Unbelievable. Doc, look at this. Nothing but fantastic. Racer driving and world championship title.

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Lockie
And. All righty. After, a lot of dribble for the last 5 to 10 minutes of us just trying to pick ourselves up and get the episode started. We are here at the unfunded podcast episode eight, season two with your host, Lachlan Jones, professional triathlete, here with my good friend.

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Lleyton
Leighton Wall, also a professional triathlete. You're not very enthusiastic today, Lachlan nah I did.

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Lockie
It did take me a while.

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Lleyton
Taking this half hour to start recording.

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Lockie
Yeah, yeah. Yep. It is 1030. We meant to start at ten and, Yeah. Look, I had a little bit of a lie down, when we walked in here. I've struggled to get up since, But you know what? It's.

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Lleyton
We can't do two weeks in a row not getting the podcast out, so.

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Lockie
Yeah. Yeah. What happened last week? Why? Why didn't I had an exam like that?

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Lleyton
Yeah. Sorry, guys. Nerd. Loser. But yes, we're back. Fortunately, the podcast isn't quite paying the big bucks. I have to go to university and get myself a degree.

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Lockie
Yeah. What are you doing?

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Lleyton
Dietetics.

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Lockie
We've done this before, haven't we?

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Lleyton
We've been to. We've talked about this in.

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Lockie
More of an exciting way for you though.

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Lleyton
Yeah. Yes. Very exciting week.

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Lockie
How long has it been?

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Lleyton
It has been nearly 12 months, 11 months.

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Lockie
11 months since you lost your job.

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Lleyton
Going back to China. And I'm writing it as well.

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Lockie
I, I can't yeah. Like if, if that I've surely people clocked onto that. But lion is racing for the first time in 11 months back in China.

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Lleyton
That's actually it's actually a long time when you think about it.

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Lockie
It is a very long I mean, the amount of times I race in the period that you didn't race, how.

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Lleyton
Many times you really raced since May last year.

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Lockie
Upwards of ten.

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Lleyton

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Lockie
Upwards of ten, I reckon.

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Lleyton
Yeah.

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Lockie
That's actually for my running races as well. Do you sound like not all world Triathlon races, but like the World Triathlon? Some running races? No.

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Lleyton
Couple of hierarchies.

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Lockie
We don't know whether you like that one. Yes, I got asked. I've been asked multiple times what I'm doing my next one. And I have to, like, really shut that down because it's not happening.

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Lleyton
All is thinking of trying to get up. I, I wasn't quick enough in April Fool's Day. Lachlan retiring. And going to higher rocks.

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Lockie
And that would have been funny. Oh, good. How do you do? Really good. Lord Lawson's announcement he's moving to higher.

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Lleyton
On his quit triathlon.

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Lockie
Nah, I can't, I think I'm about 15 kilos too light. Yeah. I've decided.

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Lleyton
Oh, God.

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Lockie
Maybe ten, maybe ten. I think we're not going to go into higher rocks, but I think that sweet 85 kilo spot would be good.

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Lleyton
What do you now? 75. 75? Yeah.

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Lockie
I don't know if I want to disclose that actually, on the podcast.

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Lleyton
That's all right. So open.

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Lockie
Book 70. Yeah. A little bit too open sometime. So. Yeah. Anyway, like you said, how are you feeling for you race?

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Lleyton
I'm good, I'm good. I'm fit. Healthy. Yeah. Get to the start line in. Well, I've got a big travel day tomorrow. Get there healthy. I think it would just be exciting to be back racing. Yeah. I feel as if I wasn't that excited. I haven't been this excited to race in a while, to be honest.

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Lockie
You're right. You train well.

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Lleyton
Thanks.

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Lockie
Because, like, I've obviously only I've not trained with you before, but yeah, I've seen the out. So I, I've always been a bit skeptical of you know.

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Lleyton
What training.

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Lockie
You're training. But I think you're in a good program. You're in a good spot now.

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Lleyton
It's good.

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Lockie
So you're running well.

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Lleyton
Yeah. I feel as if that has actually. Yeah. Come a long way to be honest.

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Lockie
And and I mean I think you're buying mileage is increased. Yeah. Significantly which I always thought was your biggest issue. So I think hopefully.

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Lleyton
Hopefully we can do something good on the weekend.

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Lockie
And you flying in the pole. That's definitely a specialty. Yeah. You've been to the pool.

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Lleyton
Oh you love it. We do love.

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Lockie
Seeing not you love of pools. And I don't like swimming with you in the pool.

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Lleyton
Nah, nah I've tried anything good. I feel as if, it's a weird thing coming off the back of an injury. You can kind of get a. It's like this we've talked about before, but the slow build that you have to take to get back, I think that really does put in like just days and days of work that you can stack on top of each other without an interruption of a race where if you already fit, you don't need to do what you should do that block.

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Lleyton
But sometimes you skip that block of like just long, boring hours, long weeks of training together, and then you go, right? So you keep racing consecutively. You don't get that block in. Yeah. So I think it's like, it's like a blessing in disguise sometimes getting injured for a reset and then. Yeah, build up again.

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Lockie
It's also important. Like if you have had that injury, like I think so many people do try to rush back into it and like you've taken, like you said, with nearly a year. Yeah. Did you got that injury.

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Lleyton
It wasn't even that bad.

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Lockie
No, no. Like compared to two compared to like some other injuries we've seen where people have been back, you know, six, seven, eight months later sort of thing. So like the the risk that a reoccurring injury has like, yeah, if you were to say yours is a complete fracture.

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Lleyton
No, it was just it was a level two. So it was. Yeah. It was on the lower. So it was like a 2 to 3.

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Lockie
Yeah. But when you see people have like really severe fractures and then they're like rushing to get back into it's like yeah the cost of you know potentially having another fracture. Yeah. A few months down the track or like like a year later it's just not worth it.

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Lleyton
You don't want another 12 months out in two years. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know there's no point.

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Lockie
Then you start getting like real, you know, chronic bone fatigue or like chronic.

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Lleyton
Fractures, like.

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Lockie
That's just not worth.

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Lleyton
It. And you get probably more and more antsy to race. Yeah. Like I was probably antsy to race when I saw you guys go right. 7.5. Oh fuck I wish, I wish I thought I yeah, could have done that bit when I play in the season study. Yeah. I was like probably a bit early I thought, but you do get pretty pretty quick.

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Lleyton
Yeah. And especially.

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Lockie
In the group we've got. Yeah.

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Lleyton
Exactly right. Everyone's pretty fine. Everyone else is racing as well.

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Lockie
This weekend there is another race you're right. So you're the solo pioneer going off to China. Yeah.

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Lleyton
Off to China racing Olympic.

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Lockie
Oh I don't know.

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Lleyton
Like that was a bit of autism.

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Lockie
Very involved. Sorry. Brian just completely took over. Anyway. You're going to China. Goddammit. Don't do that again.

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Lleyton
And you're staying on the Gold Coast.

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Lockie
I'm staying on the Gold Coast. With a lot of the others. I think we've basically very exciting. For the first time in probably Oceania history or since I've been a part of racing, we've got a full start list at the Gold Coast Country this weekend.

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Lleyton
Yeah, well, we haven't really looked into it.

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Lockie
I've literally never seen that before. I've never seen how many.

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Lleyton
People.

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Lockie
70. We have a.

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Lleyton
Crazy.

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Lockie
We have and there was six people on the waitlist. So this is this probably isn't updated yet, but the waitlist, we have eight people, and there's a full 70 on the start list for the Gold Coast Conwy County Cup on the weekend at Broadwater.

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Lleyton
That's pretty.

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Lockie
Big. We got some Kiwis, we got some athletes from Taipei, obviously a lot of Aussies we got.

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Lleyton
I think there's a couple Carina who is this was.

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Lockie
Sam Sam Hocking. So make it a some Samoa. The Samoan athlete on the Saturday a couple Koreans. We got a Canadian. We got a South African. We got South African. It's been.

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Lleyton
That's quite good but.

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Lockie
70 people. Yeah very impressed. And eight on the start list so oh wait sorry. Which is also a really cool feature that I drive brought in. So we're able to say that.

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Lleyton
Is the austral. What a draw Shannon. Well drive brought that in. My bad. Sorry. Yep. Because that is pretty cool though. Does say where you are like on a white list.

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Lockie
And obviously it's got like it's got it in the numbered order. So obviously if you're, you know, down here now, right. Likelihood of you getting in, you need eight people would be removed from the stock list. So that should probably be updated by the end of the day I reckon, on who's going to be pulling out, who's going to be staying in.

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Lockie
But regardless, never seen a full solace, you know, in the Oceania County Cup before. Yeah she's massive.

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Lleyton
That is pretty big. That's that's good. It's it's showing that the sport's growing especially around this area like especially for an all a nation of Samoa I think that's quite impressive. Yeah.

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Lockie
No I did never seen him. Don't know who he is by good.

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Lleyton
Yeah. Someone from a little island nation on came to.

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Lockie
See the suit. The color of the suit runner.

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Lleyton
In blue and the travel on it. Yeah. Blue. Red stars.

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Lockie
I'll watch it. I'll be cheering for.

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Lleyton
Yeah. Go the Samoan.

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Lockie
Go. This is a must see. Anyway, that'd be a big one. That's another that's another call. Auto qualification race for the juniors I know. Yeah. So I think if it's first junior across the line inside the top five okay. Very hard. Obviously when you've got the likes of, Maddie, Maddie houses not doing it right. Matt.

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Lockie
How's a was on the star list? But then again, when you got the likes of Saxon, Morgan Schofield, boys, Toby Powers, Oscar waiting throughout the course, just you.

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Lleyton
It's pretty stacked.

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Lockie
The best. Brighton Mercer. I'll probably be on there. Yeah. So, like, that's gonna be very hard for a junior to come and top five.

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Lleyton
But you have an, women's start list, like,

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Lockie
Women's.

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Lleyton
Styles. Pretty factor as.

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Lockie
Well. Not as big 34.

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Lleyton
That's still a good showing, I think.

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Lockie
Still very good for the women in Australia. And you got your Ava Goodison, Sophie Malachy's, Rachelle Hill, brave Roderick, Phoebe Carter, Zoe Clark, Sean Monks all up like it's.

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Lleyton
A very good start.

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Lockie
Very good start. And you got some young guns, pop. Anderson. That'd be an exciting one. Yeah. So, yeah.

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Lleyton
Good drama.

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Lockie
It'll be a good one. It'll be a good one. I'm actually really excited to go down and watch. You won't be there. Oh, I mean, I'll be.

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Lleyton
I'll be flying back actually, in hour in China, I, I feel as if you have to say it like that. I know you said.

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Lockie
All right. Next one. Did you say it?

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Lleyton
I didn't watch it, obviously, because it's in Europe. But I saw the time and the big kerfuffle that it is made. Cassandra by Grant's 10-K run. Yeah, very impressive question.

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Lockie
Do you think you could run that fast?

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Lleyton
I don't know if I could, you know, reckon.

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Lockie
You could run that.

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Lleyton
3050 fresh? Give me a couple more weeks at running under threshold. That's three high fives. Okay. She ran bang on, was it? I think it was 3052.

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Lockie
Yeah, well, which is very close. You don't think you could do that?

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Lleyton
I would hope I can.

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Lockie
I'd love to see you in. Because every time she's also be so much taller than you.

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Lleyton
So yeah. She would tell you 2 to 1 strides.

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Lockie
That would be funny. It was insane though. Like, it's very.

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Lleyton
Impressive.

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Lockie
Even speaking to a few of the, few of the girls this morning and a French national record. Yeah, like the French. A good run, this.

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Lleyton
Very good run. Us.

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Lockie
And you've had a triathlete just going to the record. So we've had we've had.

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Lleyton
I think they also, Sorry. On a different note. Oh, was it the only period she had, like, a half marathon?

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Lockie
I'm saying is, yes, she did run the half.

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Lleyton
Half marathon, and I think she ran. It was like a 113, don't quote me. But it was also a French record, I believe. Right. It was very quick.

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Lockie
Leona's very quick. Yeah, she's a rapid runner.

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Lleyton
I01 ten maybe. I think it was a 110.

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Lockie
I that's getting a bit close to my run. So sorry.

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Lleyton
20s. Hang on.

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Lockie
Yeah well yeah I mean, you know, so slower than me, but what.

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Lleyton
Oh good. On the jib.

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Lockie
So much slower than me. Only four minutes, but. Yeah. Very scary how quick the girls are running. Yeah. I mean, we've all been talking about how fast the men are running, you know, like we've had so many guys break in that 29. We just had, Miguel Hidalgo, John Reid do. Incredible. 2930 2940 ten K runs the girls.

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Lleyton
Goes it just as quick.

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Lockie
Not that.

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Lleyton
No, the men's. No, wait like it's inside.

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Lockie
It's. But you know, few of the girls in our squad this morning, they were like how do we beat that? Literally how do we beat that.

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Lleyton
Yeah. Like it's very impressive. I don't think I could beat it.

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Lockie
I don't think you could either if I.

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Lleyton
I would actually be like stoked if I could run.

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Lockie
You know how I said you're running improved. It's definitely.

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Lleyton
Improved. It's good.

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Lockie
It's definitely improved. But it's still not considered very fast.

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Lleyton
We were laughing the other day. We were like, fuck, she's she'd be running quicker than our threshold sets. Like she'd be running at threshold with all of us. Yeah. Okay.

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Lockie
Yeah, I don't know. I mean, this is this is we're not going to go on a physiological conversation, but, like. Yeah, she would that's that's only her ten K pace.

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Lleyton
Okay.

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Lockie
So it's more roughly your marathon time. It's a sorry a half marathon. So likely only parallel would be running three 20s. Yeah. Yeah sort of thing. We're running quick and 320.

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Lleyton
Yeah. So that's fair.

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Lockie
That's my that's my sort of argument. Argument on what foot.

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Lleyton
She'd be able to keep up put it that way.

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Lockie
But yeah.

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Lleyton
No 100.

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Lockie
She would not be far behind us.

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Lleyton
She'd be letting you out.

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Lockie
She'd be on the same turnaround cycle as us. She would. You wouldn't be on the, the girls. She'd be with us.

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Lleyton
Yeah, that's very impressive. And it kind of shows that there's now this merge we've seen with Alex. Now, Cassandra, like elite triathletes, are elite runners. Yeah, like, there's no doubt about it. You have to kind of be an elite runner now to be in a, like an elite triathlete. Yeah. Scary.

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Lockie
Which is we haven't come from that background, so.

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Lleyton
It's quite.

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Lockie
Unfortunate. What happened to the swim bikers.

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Lleyton
Yeah.

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Lockie
Where do they go?

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Lleyton
Yeah, well, we grew up in watching, you know, 2012 to 2016. It was very swim bike down there. Yeah. That's pretty. We thought we had a chance to bring that back.

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Lockie
I don't know, I'm still not fully convinced that that's going yet. I said it at the start of the year. You got your Henry graph. You got you Matty houses. Even though Matty has a very frank runner himself. But like those kind of guys, they're still going to be.

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Lleyton
Yeah. And there's always going to be someone that making it harder for the runners anyway.

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Lockie
Yeah, yeah. It's like we're just a part of that.

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Lleyton
Yep. Next up.

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Lockie
You talk about this because I.

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Lleyton
Know I get in trouble.

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Lockie
I will say.

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Lleyton
Something bad. Okay, so it has been announced by World Triathlon only recently by the.

00;14;33;07 - 00;14;34;11
Lockie
Okay.

00;14;34;13 - 00;14;47;13
Lleyton
That the Russian and Belarus athletes have returned to racing under their national flag. But it is only for juniors under 20 threes in Paris.

00;14;47;14 - 00;14;51;19
Lockie
Exactly. So not the elites. I wonder why. I'm really curious as to why.

00;14;51;19 - 00;14;58;17
Lleyton
Yeah, it seems a bit strange. Yeah, I think it's above our pay bracket in political kind of world.

00;14;58;20 - 00;15;01;01
Lockie
Yeah, and I'm not really good at biting my tongue with these sort of things.

00;15;01;01 - 00;15;08;18
Lleyton
I don't know whether it's a political thing to do with the war or it's to do with like doping in previous years.

00;15;08;19 - 00;15;33;14
Lockie
Maybe they're still trying to see like they're still maybe flushing out or filtering out some people that were caught doping because from my understanding, there are some people that are in the eye in yeah, yeah, flag Federation, whatever that is called, that race under the eye and that have had banned substances before or have come off three month probationary periods, a three year probationary period.

00;15;33;14 - 00;15;50;06
Lockie
So maybe they are potentially waiting for those athletes to move out of the sport. And then once the juniors and the other 23 sort of make their way into the elite, that's when they'll. Yeah, I don't know. I'm again guessing highly guessing. It's a guessing game for us. Don't quite often that but.

00;15;50;06 - 00;15;55;28
Lleyton
I mean you see those flags on junior 23 and para start lines now the.

00;15;55;28 - 00;15;59;08
Lockie
Difference between Russia and Belarus. Can you explain that to me?

00;15;59;15 - 00;16;00;17
Lleyton
I think there are different.

00;16;00;19 - 00;16;01;15
Lockie
In different countries.

00;16;01;15 - 00;16;02;25
Lleyton
Yeah. To different nations.

00;16;02;25 - 00;16;05;03
Lockie
Why with I was Belarus I.

00;16;05;03 - 00;16;15;17
Lleyton
Think they're kind of not to get too political. They're like a bit of puppet kind of state for Russia. Right. I'm not sure. I think they're. Yeah, they're like very intertwined.

00;16;15;17 - 00;16;19;13
Lockie
I know triathlon, not politics. So this is your this is your category.

00;16;19;13 - 00;16;21;01
Lleyton
Believe that they're two different nations.

00;16;21;02 - 00;16;21;12
Lockie
Okay.

00;16;21;16 - 00;16;33;06
Lleyton
Yeah they are I would it will when I search up there had two different flags. So I'm guessing. But Russia is one of those weird countries like they have the another little know where's Khabib Nurmagomedov from.

00;16;33;09 - 00;16;33;20
Lockie
Yeah.

00;16;33;20 - 00;16;36;09
Lleyton
That's like part of Russia but not.

00;16;36;11 - 00;16;38;13
Lockie
It's like us in Tasmania.

00;16;38;15 - 00;16;39;24
Lleyton
Got knocked up. No.

00;16;39;26 - 00;16;46;27
Lockie
And we've got an extra layer and then we in Tasmania down the bottom, which is like they kind of have their own flag, but they like you need a passport to get there.

00;16;46;27 - 00;16;55;17
Lleyton
But yeah, I don't know. It's weird. Russia is a weird place. I mean Russians don't. It's so, so good.

00;16;55;19 - 00;16;56;18
Lockie
We like Russia.

00;16;56;21 - 00;16;59;10
Lleyton
Yeah. Yep, yep. Don't hurt us. Yeah.

00;16;59;13 - 00;17;02;00
Lockie
There's no not a lot of races in Russia going on.

00;17;02;02 - 00;17;10;17
Lleyton
Well, yeah. Makes sense. So many races around there, all around the Middle East at the moment. Yeah I mean.

00;17;10;19 - 00;17;19;15
Lockie
I don't know, I mean, obviously I'm not fully convinced that it's the greatest thing. Like did you see the comments sections on World Triathlon when they made the announcement?

00;17;19;15 - 00;17;20;11
Lleyton
I what did I say?

00;17;20;11 - 00;17;31;23
Lockie
Obviously it's no good. No. Like a lot of I'm not going to use the the word but Russia is starts with t state like.

00;17;31;26 - 00;17;36;05
Lleyton
Yeah terrorist. Yeah yeah yeah yeah I got the drift.

00;17;36;05 - 00;17;55;07
Lockie
So I wasn't sure you looking at me funny. Yeah. But yeah, I like I don't think a lot of people are going to be over the moon with the return. Yeah, it and like when they're juniors in under 20 threes, like I almost want to think is it good for their safety with what is going on at the moment.

00;17;55;07 - 00;18;08;04
Lleyton
Like I'm not too sure. I mean I feel as if there's a line that's I mean sport sport and then politics and stuff is like a separate, but does also makes it once like.

00;18;08;07 - 00;18;09;21
Lockie
People going to be able to.

00;18;09;23 - 00;18;10;05
Lleyton
Mix it up.

00;18;10;06 - 00;18;11;04
Lockie
Obviously.

00;18;11;06 - 00;18;12;14
Lleyton
Right. Let it go I guess.

00;18;12;14 - 00;18;21;27
Lockie
Yeah. Obviously like we're not the kind of humans that are ever going to act on seeing a Russian. Yeah. Walking through an airport. But like, say if they're representing their country flag.

00;18;21;29 - 00;18;23;16
Lleyton
Country unified coffee with the.

00;18;23;16 - 00;18;32;22
Lockie
Correct. Yeah. You got a junior a junior athlete walking with their team in their Russian uniform. And again, they could just be a civilian just wanting to represent their country.

00;18;32;22 - 00;18;33;19
Lleyton
Yeah, exactly. Yeah.

00;18;33;19 - 00;18;34;21
Lockie
People won't say it like that.

00;18;34;21 - 00;18;38;29
Lleyton
No. Yeah. That's actually a really good point. Yeah. I haven't thought about like that.

00;18;39;00 - 00;18;41;02
Lockie
It's scary for, like, the safety of a young kid.

00;18;41;03 - 00;18;48;16
Lleyton
Yeah. More. More as, like a junior under 23, which are just pretty much kids. Yeah. Kids racing their sport. Yeah. But.

00;18;48;16 - 00;18;52;11
Lockie
Then you don't want to take away the opportunity of them representing.

00;18;52;14 - 00;18;55;17
Lleyton
National pride, I guess, which is most people have.

00;18;55;17 - 00;19;07;16
Lockie
I've taken the high road massively. I don't like I'm obviously not a fan of like what's going on and like, it's hard with the history. Yeah. The government. Yeah. But yeah I don't know, you know once again above like right.

00;19;07;19 - 00;19;12;16
Lleyton
Above our pay grade, that's what's happened. And I guess we'll see them on the list.

00;19;12;16 - 00;19;20;04
Lockie
Yeah we will. Another big shift. Another big move. Our big shaker Triathlon Australia at the forefront of some pretty big things.

00;19;20;05 - 00;19;24;20
Lleyton
They are it's good. It's good para a building nation.

00;19;24;22 - 00;19;34;00
Lockie
Para athletes are now getting paid for their podium performances. Run me through this. So para athletes are getting so world triathlon aren't paying them.

00;19;34;00 - 00;19;34;29
Lleyton
No para.

00;19;34;29 - 00;19;37;09
Lockie
Athletes are getting paid.

00;19;37;12 - 00;19;37;19
Lleyton
Or.

00;19;37;22 - 00;19;39;23
Lockie
So are they. Australian federation.

00;19;39;23 - 00;19;57;26
Lleyton
Yes. It's only Australian athletes. Yeah. So any Australian para triathlete is going to get paid for a podium performance. Right. At a world triathlon event. Right. Which is pretty cool. I haven't looked at the actual numbers, how much they get. I believe it's 500 for a podium.

00;19;57;26 - 00;20;00;00
Lockie
Yeah. I look, I don't think it's a lot.

00;20;00;05 - 00;20;02;17
Lleyton
No. How? It's a status document.

00;20;02;19 - 00;20;10;29
Lockie
They're getting something. Yeah. Obviously I believe para and able bodied, they're on different sort of national funding.

00;20;11;06 - 00;20;12;26
Lleyton
Yeah, I believe so. Yeah.

00;20;12;28 - 00;20;16;03
Lockie
Pay pay packets as well because obviously they are different.

00;20;16;05 - 00;20;25;10
Lleyton
Yeah. You have like the Paralympic I guess, and then you have the, Olympic Commission. Yeah. I guess funding. Yeah. Which is two different things.

00;20;25;13 - 00;20;41;18
Lockie
I wonder if other countries are going to because like, I mean, we say the Brits, they have the they have a very big, sort of following, I guess in the para athletes, the Americans, two Americans have a heap of para athletes. So, I mean, I'm surprised I'm honestly surprised that we were probably the first ones to have started doing this.

00;20;41;18 - 00;20;43;25
Lockie
I thought the Americans probably would have done it a lot. Yeah, well.

00;20;43;26 - 00;20;45;12
Lleyton
The British with their lotto.

00;20;45;12 - 00;20;46;11
Lockie
Yeah, yeah.

00;20;46;11 - 00;20;55;01
Lleyton
It's like, unless they, already have something in there, with their, I guess.

00;20;55;03 - 00;20;55;18
Lockie
Funding.

00;20;55;18 - 00;21;00;06
Lleyton
Yeah. Funding bracket. Like, we don't know how well their, their system is.

00;21;00;10 - 00;21;05;02
Lockie
It's been pretty embarrassing if we find out that, like, a lot of other federations have already been doing this for years.

00;21;05;04 - 00;21;06;10
Lleyton
And then we claim what we've.

00;21;06;10 - 00;21;08;12
Lockie
Done, which is publicly announced it. Yeah. Yeah.

00;21;08;19 - 00;21;15;02
Lleyton
No, but it's a good it's a good step. Yeah. I mean, even though it's not a whole lot I mean, it's, it's better than nothing, isn't it?

00;21;15;09 - 00;21;21;25
Lockie
I love the you've got in the notes down here and we've got to ask was Lachlan involved in this. Did I say, yeah.

00;21;21;25 - 00;21;23;03
Lleyton
Yeah. Well, because.

00;21;23;03 - 00;21;24;26
Lockie
I'll be honest, I had nothing to do with the.

00;21;24;29 - 00;21;27;18
Lleyton
Athlete committee. Did that vote on. Yeah. This.

00;21;27;18 - 00;21;49;03
Lockie
Yeah they did. And I think we were obviously all in agreements that. Yeah. Like I mean realistically, even if I wanted to say no, how could you say no to that? No. Like you can't I think I was obviously I wouldn't say no to something like that. But even if I wanted to, you can't really. But, I don't really I don't really go to the meetings.

00;21;49;05 - 00;21;55;10
Lleyton
So I don't. Luckily, they had no clue that this was going on.

00;21;55;14 - 00;22;01;01
Lockie
No, I remember seeing the messages in our I say group chat, and.

00;22;01;03 - 00;22;04;26
Lleyton
I do like you do to me. Just ignore them. Okay?

00;22;04;26 - 00;22;20;03
Lockie
So no, our meetings. I coach Wednesdays, 6 p.m. and the meetings are always Wednesday 6 p.m.. So I try to have one headphone in while I'm coaching and we're having the meetings. Sometimes it cuts in and out and I just couldn't get it. So I knew that this was going on, but I was not a part of the vibe.

00;22;20;07 - 00;22;24;01
Lockie
No. Well, it's a climate I want to climate. Yeah. You know what?

00;22;24;01 - 00;22;25;22
Lleyton
Yeah. Using Groupon.

00;22;25;23 - 00;22;27;17
Lockie
Yeah. I was an integral part of.

00;22;27;20 - 00;22;29;00
Lleyton
Falling for athletes right.

00;22;29;00 - 00;22;33;00
Lockie
Through the. I say I'm 100 getting kicked off. I say actually there's.

00;22;33;01 - 00;22;34;09
Lleyton
No we just scraped on.

00;22;34;12 - 00;22;43;28
Lockie
Mileage. I got on by default last year. I honestly got on by default last year. I'm going to be kicked off. But you know what? I'm just Luke Williams attack dog.

00;22;44;01 - 00;22;45;09
Lleyton
Just hey, put it in the air.

00;22;45;09 - 00;22;55;11
Lockie
And I always best thing is, I like what you want me to say. All right, I'll say that. Yeah. I'm kidding, I don't. I haven't I'm gonna get myself kicked off. Yeah. All righty. Next one. Maddie. How's us?

00;22;55;13 - 00;22;57;07
Lleyton
Oh, what a shambles this podcast is.

00;22;57;07 - 00;23;05;06
Lockie
Yeah. Maddie has a not the best start to this season. We're obviously very big. Matt has our advocates.

00;23;05;08 - 00;23;06;14
Lleyton
He has the fans.

00;23;06;14 - 00;23;15;23
Lockie
Big. Matt has a fan. As you've seen. We've, we've done I think we both picked him. We have. We had both picked him to go back to back.

00;23;15;26 - 00;23;17;14
Lleyton

00;23;17;16 - 00;23;19;27
Lockie
Not great that he's had to pull off two events.

00;23;19;29 - 00;23;42;04
Lleyton
No, the only 110 which we thought was going to be blistering run. Yeah. It's sick. Yep. And then because, you know, we're obviously big fans who watches YouTube. Yeah. He watched the first two. Yeah. Yeah. Actually my roommate put it on the off days like I'm watching this. I was like, oh, my eyes were watching as well.

00;23;42;05 - 00;23;47;18
Lockie
They're my friends that have nothing to do. The trough on watch houses. Yeah, you cheat more than me. I'm like, oh fuck yeah. I didn't realize it was another one.

00;23;47;18 - 00;23;49;06
Lleyton
Yeah.

00;23;49;08 - 00;23;50;17
Lockie
Love it though when I do watch it.

00;23;50;18 - 00;23;54;18
Lleyton
But he's, he was on Gold Coast, as we said. Yeah, it's pulled off that again.

00;23;54;20 - 00;23;58;05
Lockie
I think he's a little bit sick again, maybe a little bit.

00;23;58;07 - 00;24;01;15
Lleyton
And I think he got hit by a car on his team.

00;24;01;16 - 00;24;02;17
Lockie
Yeah.

00;24;02;19 - 00;24;05;21
Lleyton
And while he's on his team, he's racing to 100 Singapore.

00;24;05;24 - 00;24;06;28
Lockie
That'll be exciting.

00;24;07;01 - 00;24;10;09
Lleyton
It will be quite exciting. I think that's in a month or so.

00;24;10;13 - 00;24;11;08
Lockie
Yeah I think three way or.

00;24;11;08 - 00;24;12;09
Lleyton
A couple of weeks now. Just under.

00;24;12;09 - 00;24;13;07
Lockie
Three weeks.

00;24;13;10 - 00;24;16;18
Lleyton
So like we said it's an interesting start to the year. Yeah.

00;24;16;21 - 00;24;32;18
Lockie
Pulled off a couple of races. Not ideal. But again early early season like it's early in the season. He doesn't need to be winning County Cup. So you know he can go in a county car. We knew he was going to run rapid in the 10-K down that road before. Realistically doesn't need to do it. Not smart choice probably to just go.

00;24;32;25 - 00;24;34;01
Lockie
I've got bigger fish to fry.

00;24;34;01 - 00;24;34;19
Lleyton
Exactly.

00;24;34;19 - 00;24;50;06
Lockie
It would be the training race but I can just go trying now. Yeah. We saw the video. I don't know if you saw the video, but World Triathlon always tell you 100 or 1 of them, it was basically hide him wild calling out, not calling out, but like saying hello. Are you sure? Course. Guys, come meet me at the table 100.

00;24;50;08 - 00;25;30;29
Lockie
Odd answer the phone. Come meet me at the table 100. Yeah. Let's go. Like, obviously he's just been dominating. Yeah, all over that period. And yeah, to an extent, I do believe the T 100 maybe is a bit more of a representation of like overall strength in draw fun. Yeah, I still get it. I'm still a little bit like I don't know how they've done the calculations on distances to UK 8018 I understand that, but like 80 is a long way to like swim, like it's only 500m more, more where the bike is double.

00;25;31;07 - 00;25;32;29
Lockie
So like, I don't know, I.

00;25;33;00 - 00;25;36;03
Lleyton
Mean three K 80, 23 guys a lot.

00;25;36;03 - 00;25;36;20
Lockie
Then as well.

00;25;36;20 - 00;25;39;00
Lleyton
Yeah three guys that's like that.

00;25;39;00 - 00;25;55;17
Lockie
That's a, that's an an Ironman swim. Exactly. Right. So they're probably taking that too far. Yeah I don't know. It's a tricky one. But regardless it's going to be really cool to see how's it go toe to toe with it. Because he can ride a bike man like I, I think a lot of people think he has a struggles on the bike.

00;25;55;17 - 00;26;08;26
Lockie
And I think maybe in previous years he has. But if you've written with him, like, I'm sure a lot of the World Series guys can know, he's not just sitting in the pack in the breakaways anymore. Yeah, he's pulling turns.

00;26;08;26 - 00;26;12;08
Lleyton
He's controlling to hold on to that other day. Holy shit. Yeah.

00;26;12;08 - 00;26;20;27
Lockie
Like if anybody tries to create with has a like he's a strong cyclist. Yeah. Over like an hour. It'll be interesting to see what he can do with 80 K. That's obviously different.

00;26;20;27 - 00;26;21;14
Lleyton
A bit different.

00;26;21;15 - 00;26;29;00
Lockie
Noosa. If anybody writes him in Noosa last year for any of those guys he was strong on the Taytay last year. Yeah Hayden was another level.

00;26;29;02 - 00;26;37;12
Lleyton
Yeah I agree Hayden's and had installed in for like long course and yeah so it's a bit hard to compare.

00;26;37;15 - 00;26;44;14
Lockie
But I don't think Hayden's going to be able to come back to shore course. Personally I think I reckon I don't.

00;26;44;16 - 00;26;45;26
Lleyton
I reckon I reckon.

00;26;45;26 - 00;26;48;19
Lockie
I think he's so good at that T100 distance. Do you think.

00;26;48;19 - 00;26;55;07
Lleyton
He's dialed in that kind of race pace. And he can just run that. He's kind of lost some of his critical speed probably.

00;26;55;07 - 00;27;12;06
Lockie
Yeah. I just think he's so good at that T100. Look Hayden is 100% probably don't give a fuck what I say. Like he does nothing. He does not care what I say. He'll just go do it anyway. But no, I don't know. I'm not. I'm not convinced that Hayden is going to be able to make the return to shore course, that he would.

00;27;12;06 - 00;27;16;27
Lleyton
You rather see him go all in on just 70.32 900?

00;27;17;02 - 00;27;19;03
Lockie
No I don't, I'm a short course guy.

00;27;19;04 - 00;27;19;27
Lleyton
You want the same kind.

00;27;19;28 - 00;27;28;18
Lockie
I love short course I want, I want like I want yeah Henry graphs I want. Yeah I've already forgotten his name. The Italian.

00;27;28;21 - 00;27;31;01
Lleyton
Super scratchy.

00;27;31;03 - 00;27;52;04
Lockie
Yeah some like that, some of that cicconi. Yeah, something like that. That's Bianco. Yeah. Anyway, at the Italian, I want to say the front pack that we saw last year, the Frenchies come back on Leo Burgess, Dorian Curtis, Matty Howes. Tyler Ray. Like, I want Dylan McCulloch back on me in there. Like I want the front pack to just be absolutely hammer and tongs trying to ride away from an Alex.

00;27;52;04 - 00;28;03;15
Lockie
Yeah, I hate them wild like all those guys, I. I think we're in a good point now. Well, we've got, like, those front guys really working hard at the front. We saw it last year. Let's make Hayden and Alex Chase.

00;28;03;17 - 00;28;05;20
Lleyton
Yeah yeah it'll be good.

00;28;05;27 - 00;28;08;13
Lockie
But I just don't see it happening. I don't I don't I don't.

00;28;08;13 - 00;28;09;07
Lleyton
Know what will happen.

00;28;09;07 - 00;28;24;16
Lockie
I don't know if Alex hasn't. He's just so dialed in. And then we looked we saw him at Geelong and he's almost done it in quite a few 70 point threes where that extra three k just seems to really hurt Hayden. Like I don't know if it's the extra ten K on the block and then the extra three k on.

00;28;24;17 - 00;28;28;15
Lleyton
Or in comparison from he's saying 100 to 70 points, right? Yeah.

00;28;28;16 - 00;28;35;25
Lockie
Like like how is he so, so impossible to beat in a day 100. You've had yellow like.

00;28;35;27 - 00;28;39;06
Lleyton
Yeah two times. You haven't come close in to 100 yellows.

00;28;39;06 - 00;28;42;26
Lockie
Not been able to touch him, but then he's touched in plenty of times. And it's 70 points right.

00;28;42;26 - 00;28;44;23
Lleyton
It's about 20 more minutes of racing.

00;28;44;23 - 00;28;48;14
Lockie
Yeah. Does that. It's almost like that 20 extra minutes just tips him over.

00;28;48;17 - 00;28;50;22
Lleyton
Yeah. Could it could do so much.

00;28;50;23 - 00;28;56;06
Lockie
Yeah I don't know. Well that's just me looking outside in. But I love looking outside in.

00;28;56;07 - 00;28;56;22
Lleyton
Outside.

00;28;56;22 - 00;29;01;29
Lockie
In. I don't really want to be a part of it a little bit too quickly. Yeah, I just do too much work on the block.

00;29;02;02 - 00;29;02;18
Lleyton
Oh, yeah.

00;29;02;18 - 00;29;03;19
Lockie
That's horrible.

00;29;03;21 - 00;29;05;26
Lleyton
They are. They are very impressive. Yeah.

00;29;05;27 - 00;29;13;19
Lockie
Back to how's, going to be interesting to see how we see how it plays out. He's not beating Hayden. Unfortunately. I don't think he's beating Hayden.

00;29;13;26 - 00;29;35;17
Lleyton
No. Do you think he'll be a good block? Hopefully he's had with interruption leading into the Singapore. He gets a good block of luck personally. More along Arabic, not Arabic, but like in more yeah. Threshold kind of work. Yeah. Into this season because he had that leading into last year with Geelong Star of the Year of Geelong.

00;29;35;17 - 00;29;35;28
Lleyton
Yeah.

00;29;35;28 - 00;29;40;29
Lockie
Personally this is like and obviously like I'm biased on this.

00;29;40;29 - 00;29;41;28
Lleyton
It's just opinion based.

00;29;41;29 - 00;30;12;10
Lockie
This is opinion based 100%. People have their own philosophies on like what what is the right training. And you know how athletes respond to that, what certain athletes should be doing. I'm 100% in the in the opinion of Matty Hauser at the moment, probably for the last month or so, should just be doing big Arabic mileage, threshold mileage, just like not really touching much VO2 like he's a VO2 freak.

00;30;12;13 - 00;30;23;05
Lockie
Like he's so good at it. Just get him strong and fit. Yeah, I think leading into Geelong last year, that was like the perfect thing that Matty Houser could have been doing. And I mean look at the season he had.

00;30;23;05 - 00;30;23;19
Lleyton
Exactly.

00;30;23;19 - 00;30;39;23
Lockie
He literally killed the best season we've ever seen. And of course, hopefully this day 100 kind of brings him back into that a little bit and forces him to to do those sort of longer threshold efforts and just build up his engine. Yeah, hopefully it'll be.

00;30;39;23 - 00;30;40;10
Lleyton
Interesting.

00;30;40;16 - 00;30;53;13
Lockie
Hopefully, I don't think I don't think he's going to set the world on fire in Singapore. He'll be good. It's Maddie Howes off. He'll be good. But I think it's going to help set up the rest of the season 100%.

00;30;53;15 - 00;30;55;14
Lleyton
It's good. Good take down.

00;30;55;16 - 00;31;00;13
Lockie
Thank you. I'm an analyst.

00;31;00;15 - 00;31;04;03
Lleyton
I think that's a really that's, happened, to be honest, in the last week.

00;31;04;03 - 00;31;04;25
Lockie
Yeah. Not a.

00;31;04;25 - 00;31;12;15
Lleyton
Whole lot. Yeah, there's not much right now going on. It's coming up. It's like a bit of long course kind of season at the moment.

00;31;12;15 - 00;31;27;21
Lockie
Yeah. It's all coming up though. We've got Australian sprint champs, this weekend, like we said, you're racing indexing. In China we got Oceania Super Sprint champs next week, which is always that's always an exciting one. We're both on the start line for that. Yeah. Then the week off that we're into the World Series.

00;31;27;22 - 00;31;31;07
Lleyton
Oh oh okay. It's actually back. Yeah I think it's very much back on.

00;31;31;09 - 00;31;39;00
Lockie
We got we got three weeks of racing. Then we've got a week off and then we've got Chengdu. I'll be there back in China, then we've got Yokohama.

00;31;39;00 - 00;31;42;00
Lleyton
I'll tell you how it is. What, China.

00;31;42;02 - 00;31;45;27
Lockie
Yeah. Oh yeah. Let me know how China's. Yeah. Need. I'm not gonna be average.

00;31;45;27 - 00;31;47;11
Lleyton
But.

00;31;47;13 - 00;31;50;16
Lockie
I know it's China. Yeah. Sorry for, China. Listen, it's.

00;31;50;16 - 00;31;58;23
Lleyton
Great stuff, isn't it? Going over there of of, of discovered. Here we go. So you have to, bring, you have to bring food over when you get to China.

00;31;58;24 - 00;32;01;09
Lockie
Oh, yeah. Wait, why?

00;32;01;11 - 00;32;02;22
Lleyton
Because it's shit.

00;32;02;24 - 00;32;07;11
Lockie
I don't know, he said a buffet. You said a restaurant with the buffet or something?

00;32;07;13 - 00;32;11;28
Lleyton
Well, yeah. Yeah, there's always a hotel with buffet, but yet serve turtle.

00;32;12;00 - 00;32;13;17
Lockie
Starting at the turtle.

00;32;13;19 - 00;32;14;25
Lleyton
Then you just have rice.

00;32;14;26 - 00;32;17;05
Lockie
What do you take over?

00;32;17;07 - 00;32;25;14
Lleyton
I spent $150. It covers yesterday and stuff. I'm not. So I got what I figured out because I don't like tuna.

00;32;25;15 - 00;32;31;04
Lockie
And anybody who's fish guy, for anybody who goes to, to China. Listening. Listening is going to be great at what.

00;32;31;06 - 00;32;44;08
Lleyton
Words of wisdom I've bought you can buy canned chicken. Oh, no. No, I tried it. Yes. This is only if like this is only precautionary. If the food there is really bad.

00;32;44;11 - 00;32;46;26
Lockie
Okay. Is this shit the chicken?

00;32;46;27 - 00;32;56;06
Lleyton
No, no, it's actually not that bad. Okay, so if anyone doesn't like fish and wants to bring some kind of protein over canned chicken, is it actually that bad.

00;32;56;06 - 00;32;58;19
Lockie
Man for a nutritionist? You're insane. No.

00;32;58;21 - 00;33;07;17
Lleyton
Well, I'm thinking about my nutrition. Dying. Fuck. There's nothing there. I don't want to be eating just rice. I need a bit of protein to get in.

00;33;07;20 - 00;33;27;22
Lockie
We usually in those kind of rices, they also make sure, that the hotel you're staying at is approved. Approved. Because a lot of the time, and I think we've seen it a lot in past, rice is where the beef or the pork, whatever is a bit dodgy. Pump with a bit of steroids. And yeah, some bands get thrown out.

00;33;27;22 - 00;33;34;13
Lockie
Yeah. So some bad tests come through. So if you rice in China, at least you got that excuse up the hand. It's just in China most be the food doesn't.

00;33;34;14 - 00;33;38;28
Lleyton
Explain the food right. Not the dodges that you've been doing.

00;33;39;01 - 00;33;44;03
Lockie
Yeah. Yeah. Not that I don't know. I'm not going to joke about it because last time we joked about it, we had to sort of rock it up.

00;33;44;03 - 00;33;45;27
Lleyton
Yeah, I know that. Were right on to us.

00;33;45;27 - 00;33;54;26
Lockie
Right to us. But anyway, that's his way. Sorry it was short. I'm super tired, so I'm going to go home and have a nap. I've got to pack lines. Gotta go pack for China. Ding dang dang.

00;33;54;26 - 00;33;59;26
Lleyton
That. Oh, no. Oh.

00;33;59;28 - 00;34;05;04
Lockie
That's the unfunded episode eight season two. Goodbye. Thank you. Oh!