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I love the chase and the hunt,
and I set the pace when I'm running.
I always take what I want,
and I always give it one hundred.
Don't need a bank, no I'm funded.
Play the game like it's nothing.
I'm always thankful for something.
Don't take for granted, stay humble.
Now wake up!
It's time to look at the enemy.
Look in the mirror if he is no
friend to me.
What is going on everybody?
After multiple attempts on internet,
we are live finally.
Holy shit, dude.
It hasn't been this bad in quite some
time.
I think from the day I joined in
at the pool,
it was like me and Dex and one
other Masters guy.
Yeah, yeah, Ryan Redkey.
Yeah, with Ryan.
Yeah, that was good stuff right there.
Yeah,
when your phone was overheating at the
pool.
He kept doing it over and over again.
Yeah, Dex is frying pork chops.
Yeah.
Fantastic.
Oh man.
It's crazy.
Cause now for some reason,
every time I go downstairs,
I lose the internet on the laptop and
it will not connect to anything.
And I don't know if it's something in
the road caster, maybe connecting to that.
I mean,
cause I'm literally just the floor is the
only thing between me and the,
and the router.
Yeah.
Which makes no sense whatsoever.
That shouldn't be a thing.
It should not be.
So, uh,
We had a great talk yesterday.
We're going to follow up on that a
little bit now that I can actually see
that.
So I have internet.
My laptop just doesn't want to connect to
it when I'm down in the studio.
All of a sudden, after six years,
the last two days,
it just will not hook up.
So we're going to talk,
we're going to follow up on that
conversation a little bit,
but some news hit yesterday and I had
to go back in the office today for
the first time in like maybe three years.
I know it's been quite some time since
you and I have had that conversation a
bunch.
Well, like,
I haven't worked in the office in five.
Right.
Like, since COVID hit,
I have not been back.
Now,
I had to go in for a meeting
like three years ago, two years, three,
two, I don't know.
And haven't been back since.
But it's funny because I had to go
take my laptop from my work laptop in
and have it changed out for a newer
one.
Because it's the same one I had when
I left in two to twenty twenty.
Oh, yeah.
And I walk in and.
And it's my buddy that I used to
go to for all my IT needs,
like that guy, you know,
that you just became buddies with because
under the table, he can fix your shit.
Right.
And now he's the head of IT.
I mean, somebody's got to be.
And so we got to hang out,
talk a little bit today,
which was really cool because I don't get
that interaction anymore.
Well, good.
But that was fun.
Now I'm back here for the rest of
the day.
Meredith, do I still have a desk there?
I do not.
They actually sold off all their
buildings.
And there's barely any spots left.
And that's one of the reasons why I
can't go back.
There's no place to put us.
Oh, darn.
Oh, no, I can't go back.
Oh, God, no, shucks.
They keep trying to send my wife back.
Someone please fill me in on the Dallin
Colton thing.
I'm lost.
I didn't know there was a Dallin Colton
thing.
I know there's a Colton someone thing.
In the comments, Dallin was like,
just say my name, bro.
But it's hard to tell if he's just
being stupid,
like messing around with him or not.
Gotcha.
Because Dallin said he would say his name,
but he wanted to give the person an
opportunity to say their piece before the
call out.
Correct.
And I know Colton called somebody out.
I find it hard to believe that it
was Dallin who would refuse to follow him
back.
It might have been Dallin just,
but who knows?
There's no way.
I just don't.
He's too good of a kid, man.
I just don't see that happening.
Yeah.
It's not his style.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I found it weird that The Boys Interrupted
went live this week without Dallin and
didn't really say why.
Because it came out like immediately after
that,
that he was that he had the rhabdo
and couldn't go back to Rogue.
Yeah.
Vicky says I assumed it was Hopper.
John George Hopper.
That's who I assumed it was.
They have like a little running tiff.
But who knows?
You know what?
We've talked about this before.
Good.
Yeah, I don't mind it.
Good.
We have something to talk about,
number one.
Number two,
everybody should not be friends with
everybody.
That's unrealistic.
For everybody just to be, oh,
when the behind the scenes thing that,
what's his face did,
when he's walking around asking everybody
if they had a nemesis.
And everybody, to a person, except Colton,
was like, oh, no, not really.
I'm just here, you know,
I'm just here competing and blah, blah,
blah.
Which is nonsense.
I'm going to tell you right now,
it's bullshit because I get in the back
when I'm at a competition.
I know there's people there that I do
not like and I want to crush.
Period.
You're not going to like everybody.
That's just life.
We talked about it yesterday.
We all have rivals, right?
I've said Todd was my rival when I
first went into the CrossFit gym,
and I wanted to beat him every single
day.
And I would strategize on how to hit
the workout to be able to take him
on.
And it made me better,
and it made me more successful,
and all that.
But before we get into the chip and
all those things that we talked about
yesterday –
I want to talk about that San Jose
was announced as the next location to the
twenty twenty six CrossFit Games.
So, twentieth anniversary.
We're going back to Cali.
Going back to Cali.
I watched Amanda Harry's thing this
morning.
I actually texted her yesterday and told
her that she is she's responsible now
because she lives there to set up the
trivia night for the media team.
Hey, congratulations.
I just gave you a job.
But she actually lives in Oakland and she
told me she's probably going to have to
get a hotel just because of traffic.
Oh, well, yeah, I could see that.
Oakland up to San Jose,
it's typically about forty five minutes,
no traffic.
But with traffic,
she's going to have to be she's forced
to kind of get a hotel.
Well, I mean,
I don't know how big San Jose is,
but I know like Oakland in San Francisco
is
across the bay from each other two big
really big places and i snapped it out
so you have oakland and san francisco and
then right below that is uh san jose
so it's they're all on the bay in
like a triangle got it got it so
yeah that makes sense that's like what
we're talking about with tristan the other
day where if you're in houston you're
still an hour from houston
Like you can drive in a straight line
and not be done.
So, yeah,
I could see that having to stay,
not be able to stay at your house,
even though the venue is forty five
minutes from.
I can see that.
I could absolutely see that.
I don't think it's a like or not
like I think mentally when you're in the
game, you just need a rabbit.
It's just something to chase or try to
run away from.
I think with Colton, it's more than that.
I think it's,
it's that chip that we've talked about the
last couple of days.
Um, so I think,
I think he has the chip on his
shoulder and he wants to prove stuff.
Um, so anyway.
A hundred percent.
Remember on the, uh,
one of the old documentaries when they
were talking about, uh, uh, uh,
bridges talking about, uh,
And they said he doesn't like being told
he's the shortest and the oldest in the
field.
Like,
I imagine after so many times hearing
that, oh, yeah,
Colton's five foot three or however tall
he is.
Like,
that shit will wear on you after a
while.
And you're just like, you know what?
F y'all.
Yeah, I am.
And watch.
You know,
that video he posted of him doing the
thirty inch box clears and just casually
jumping over the box,
taking a couple steps,
jumping over the box,
just turn around and going like.
Well,
and I've said on this show a couple
times that I don't think he can win
the games.
I think that the extra effort he has
to put in to overcome his obstacles in
a four- or three-day weekend is really,
really hard and will make it hard for
him to win the games.
And other people can think I'm wrong,
and that's fine.
And I'm sure Colton thinks I'm wrong.
But I still love the dude.
Like, I want him to win the games.
I can want him to do it and
not think he can at the same time.
It's just – I don't want to say
being realistic because I think he can.
Just because I know, like –
For me,
and I feel like for Colton as well,
the more events there are,
the better there is because it minimizes
the things that you're really not that
good at or can't be that good at
because of your body type.
I got short legs, long torso, short arms.
I'm a horrible rower.
It doesn't matter how much I work on
it.
I have to put out more effort than
other people do when I row, period,
to be able to keep up.
Just a fact of life.
It doesn't matter how strong I am.
My pull is not going to be as
long as somebody else's is.
So I need more events to be able
to minimize damage on that one,
to be able to maximize my points on
the other one.
And I think Colton's a lot the same
way.
I think your advantage is, though,
that in the Masters division,
at the games,
they don't get so over the top with
the programming.
Oh, yeah, absolutely.
I'm never going to have to do a
pit bull.
Right.
Like, that's not,
that's not going to be a thing.
I'm never going to have to do some
of the crazy stuff that they've done.
I would like to,
I would look the obstacle course from what
was it?
Oh, of course.
Twenty-nineteen with rescue Randy.
Seventeen, eighteen.
Something like that.
Whichever one it was, I would love that.
That looked fun as hell.
Right.
And that's a fitness test.
Like we're going to run,
we're going to go,
we're obviously going to move stuff from
here to there, blah, blah, blah, whatever.
I would absolutely kill for stuff like
that.
But I also know that there's stuff that
is in my training weekly,
biweekly or whatever that I just skip over
because in my division,
I'm not going to need to know how
to do that so I can spend more
time working on the stuff that matters.
Yeah.
So Larry Young, four ninety nine.
Thank you so much for that, Larry.
All right, boys,
what do we think quarter workouts will
look like?
I know Jay Burch is like in it
a little early,
but I think Larry's looking like how much
time should he put into training this?
Do do I actually do some fitness or
just watch?
It's not early if you're in my condition
and need some time.
Dude,
he can talk about his condition all he
wants.
We follow each other on Instagram,
and I've seen some of the stuff that
he does, dude.
Some of it's not pretty.
Like his muscle-ups are baffling me every
single time because they're basically like
just strict bar muscle-ups.
It's insane to watch.
But he gets through them and then goes
on to the next thing.
So I don't want to hear about that.
His pure raw strength is unreal.
It's bananas, dude.
It is absolutely bananas.
And I understand how it got passed down
to his son.
Like that's genetics all the way through.
You wonder why John Young is as strong
as he is.
Go follow Larry.
Yeah.
What I would say Larry needs to work
on is mobility.
A little bit.
Work on mobility.
And then I think the fitness will come
in a little bit more.
He is fit from what I can see.
I mean,
I've never had a chance to train a
man.
I'd love to.
But his just raw strength and just the
stuff that he does,
every time I see some stuff,
I shake my head and I laugh.
It's fun to watch.
It really is.
Yeah.
He is a unicorn in the strength department
for sure.
A hundred percent.
A hundred percent.
If Bob and Joe keep programming,
just do machines and lift.
Don't worry about moving well and having
skills.
So I don't know.
Just so you know, John,
John is a salty individual when it comes
to the programming of the Masters games.
I think him and Jamie are we're twins
separated at birth.
Yeah, I can believe that.
I can believe that every time like
something comes up,
I'll text Jamie and I'll be like,
what do you think about this?
Oh, it sucks.
And it doesn't matter.
Right.
doesn't matter what it is.
Like, it could be something like, I mean,
I'd probably be good at it.
But I mean, it's just stupid.
I'm like,
this is why me and you were friends
right here.
PJ Slauson, Jaclyn, see you guys there.
Corey better make it happen.
And she's talking about the games.
Yeah.
I booked my hotel room yesterday.
I got a really good deal.
I don't know if the hotels were aware
that this was announced because I thought
I was going to have to pay a
premium, and I got a really good deal.
Good deal.
Glad to hear it.
So I think I snuck in and got
a hotel room under the wire.
So I'm at the airport.
Amanda tells me it's three miles,
three miles from the airport to the –
Somebody was saying that during the –
cases broadcast yesterday,
like in the comments, they were saying,
like, if you fly into San Jose, like,
it's right there.
Yeah, like, it's like, you basically,
you can almost walk from there to the
to the Larry,
mine was cheaper than Albany,
my to buy probably.
Five hundred bucks.
I probably saved.
Yeah.
Wow.
That's substantial.
The lens media only half mile away.
that's great that's i hate saying shit
like that's crazy because it always sounds
like somebody's not actually paying
attention but that actually is pretty it's
that close to the year uh and he
may be working for me at the games
next year so just kind of see how
big of a team they let me have
when do they announce that kind of stuff
like when you can apply for your video
pass and shit probably not so after the
first year it always seems way too late
to me but
Um, I'm looking at Airbnbs right now.
Prices are really good.
Uh,
scud said you can walk there from the
airport.
Well, if you're scuds, you can, I mean,
Alison is pretty damn fit.
So, but excited about that.
Excited about that.
Um,
it sounds like it's a really nice place.
Um, and the prices are great.
And, um,
So I'm excited because I do think,
I do think there's the opportunity to go
outside a little bit.
Maybe somebody was saying there's a, uh,
some sort of park that's like right next
door.
Uh,
so I was saying yesterday that like the
ranch is.
So you can almost expect to see like
another trail run or something like that.
Maybe cause they're saying, you know,
Friday, Saturday, Sunday,
But check-in's probably going to be on a
Monday.
Most athletes are going to be there all
week anyway.
So, oh, by the way,
we're going to get everybody to the ranch
on Thursday and do two events,
three events, whatever the case may be.
You know,
Dave likes to do shit like that.
But there it is,
a twenty-three minute drive from the arena
to the ranch.
My internet's getting sketchy again.
Of course it is.
This is ridiculous, man.
all right um you can take a the
cal train from sfo airport to san jose
if you're coming from farther away nice so
that gives two airport options yeah yeah
the ranch isn't far when we went to
fitness freedom at the ranch i was shocked
how close yeah so like i said that
wouldn't
And not just me, George,
to the surprise of absolutely no one that
we're going to have something over there.
Well,
Dave announced on that sport of fitness
podcast that there's a twist coming either
next week or the week after they're going
to make the announcement.
I'm assuming it's going to be,
I'm assuming it's going to be at the
ranch.
Yeah.
I think everybody is.
That's what it was like.
Just like so many people were calling it
to be in San Jose and,
Right.
Everybody was like, Oh yeah,
it's probably going to be insane.
Cause they saw it.
They had pictures of Dave walking around
the stadium and whatnot.
Like he was checking it out.
Um,
and then to the surprise of absolutely no
one.
Hey, yeah.
By the way, it's in San Jose.
Can we talk about how awesome Tia Claire
to me is three o'clock in the morning.
Yeah.
She gets up, does her fate.
Like,
Because that's not,
I just woke up two seconds ago phase,
right?
Does her stuff, gets up,
and goes on there for five minutes just
to be able to announce, hey,
the games are going to be in San
Jose.
And I said it yesterday,
and further cementing her spot as the
greatest of all time,
because who's doing that?
Who is waking up?
On the other side of the world at
three o'clock in the morning because they
asked you to for no other reason than
the fact that, hey,
would you mind coming and do this?
Well, yeah,
but I'm going to be at my place
in Australia.
Oh, well, you don't have to.
No, it's fine.
I'll just get up at three in the
morning.
I thought standing.
Well, true.
Well, yeah.
Well, David Reed,
wish it had been in Columbus.
I would have, too.
But that's very selfish of me.
It is the twentieth anniversary,
and it probably should go home.
Yeah.
I mean,
we can all wish in one hand and
poop in the other one and see which
one fills up first.
I'm sure you know how that's going to
happen.
She really is leading the community right
now, and I'm super impressed.
I just have a hard time with her
content.
all the clickbait they use,
and then you watch fifteen minutes and
nothing is said.
Yeah, not a fan of that,
but she is one hundred percent leading
from the front.
No announcement yet for age groups.
Yeah,
I think they're full press on the elites
getting all that stuff out.
So, Andrew,
literally yesterday I was like this,
like the entire time,
hoping that Dave would say something about
it, something about, I mean,
we're going to have three semifinals for
age group before we do the online last
chance qualifier,
whatever you want to call it,
something like that.
But in my heart of hearts,
they weren't going to say a shit about
us yesterday.
That's just a fact.
Not on the debut show.
Nobody watches Masters but the Clydesdale.
It was said in the chat yesterday.
It'd be the only one to show up.
Just like they're not going to talk about
the Moscow Kettlebell League on the show
either.
Same thing.
When we see it,
Brian will be the only one to sit
that one.
In the
The ultimate Frisbee league.
Next week.
I would expect something about it next
week.
You're about to get clipped again, Scott.
Fifteen minutes and says nothing.
I mean...
I got to title a podcast this week.
That's a fact.
Which was... Dude, I laughed so much.
I love... They could do...
A whole series on just telling like old
stories like that.
Talk about Rich and them.
Like that show was hilarious.
Just all this different stuff they were
talking about and like just how.
Thrown together,
all of that stuff was like.
What it was sectionals back then,
just literally just like, oh,
we're out here in the grass doing
thrusters every time or deadless every
time you drop the barbell.
By the time you finish,
you're picking it up off your toes to
get it off.
I love Petty Rich.
And, you know,
I did say that they click baited me
into a podcast that said nothing,
absolutely nothing.
It's a waste of time.
And then he calls his show a waste
of time.
Like that is.
You know what though?
Petty Rich at his best.
It shows he's paying attention.
Yeah.
Yeah.
CJ says age group announcements is next
week.
Stay tuned to the WOD Prep Podcast.
Hey, brother.
I watch y'all every week.
I was looking for y'all this morning on
my way back from the pool,
and y'all were not live today,
so I imagine it's going on tomorrow.
What's frustrating for me about the WOD
Prep Podcast?
Oh, here we go.
Pay attention, CJ.
Is I can't watch it live.
It's on at eight a.m.
where I'm at.
When I get to work,
that's when all the morning meetings are.
And I get stuck in meetings and cannot
watch it live.
I got caught up on the one from
earlier this week.
Yesterday, I believe.
Yeah,
like I think after either before we did
this or after the other one.
No, it had to be before because.
We went from us to chase to seven
and then, uh, Pedro, like there was,
there was content all day yesterday.
It's good stuff.
Yeah.
Um, uh,
CJ will be live all weekend at affiliate
con, uh, interviewing all,
a lot of the speakers.
Sweet.
I do want to like, gosh.
Jason Ackerman, I used to despise.
When I first got into CrossFit and kind
of diving into the podcast scene,
best hour of their day,
I thought he was like so condescending.
Then I met him live and I love
the dude.
I don't know why that didn't come across
to me in the podcast,
but when I met him live,
we sat down and talked.
We talked a lot the day I met
him.
And then I had him on the show,
and he was a great guest.
It was awesome,
but I really didn't like him for a
long time.
He leans into it.
As soon as he came on on Siobhan's
show the other day with those yellow,
orange, whatever glasses,
everybody was lighting him up in the
comments.
He was just like, yep,
I know they're stupid.
I'm wearing them anyway.
He was perfectly fine with it.
He's really, really good at that.
I can understand because if you just
listen to him speak not knowing,
he's very, very knowledgeable.
He obviously knows what he's talking
about,
but it's just his tone half the time.
He sounds like he's talking down to
everybody.
Turns out,
Not really.
He's kind of an asshole.
That's fine.
But he is very, very,
he knows what he's talking about,
and he's actually very,
what's the one looking for?
Insightful.
Insightful.
Self-deprecating, all that stuff.
Self-deprecating, that's the word.
Yeah,
he bangs on himself as much as he
bangs on anybody else.
Absolutely.
CJ says most people feel that way.
Yeah.
Oh, well, speaking of media reaction.
I don't I don't want to take up
a lot of time on this because it
it is really taken up the whole week
but like on every show like dense and
savan and everybody saying that we were
critical of a crash and I am baffled
where they got that were critical of
crash.
The only thing we said is that we
thought that Caroline Klutz deserved more
media attention for what she accomplished.
That was it.
It had nothing to do with the programming.
It had nothing to do with anything else.
And.
Yeah.
And it's just frustrating that it has
happened.
However, our numbers are way up this week.
So, like, I don't know, like,
do I embrace it and just say, okay,
criticize away, whatever.
We'll just take it with a lump.
But one comment got me,
and it was we posted the reel talking
about Caroline.
And Bryson wrote,
don't tell me what to care about.
And I'm thinking,
isn't that what podcasts are?
That's what media is.
When he does Shut Up and Scribble,
isn't he telling me that I should care
about squat depth and balanced
programming?
Whatever the topics are,
that's what you're telling me you want me
to care about as a podcaster.
That's fantastic.
So...
I don't want to read tone into it
because I don't know what Tony said it
with.
And so I don't know what it truly
meant.
When I read it, I was like,
but isn't that what we all do?
We all say what you should care about
today by having a list of topics.
Absolutely.
And last time,
horses is dead it hasn't been beat uh
and beat all the hell and back it's
an opinion and it's a honestly for what
she did miss klutz did it's a valid
opinion right and that's it everything
else y'all said i watched the whole damn
show was nothing but this is a was
a fantastic broadcast uh bill and freaking
john were awesome the camera shots were
fantastic like
And then, God forbid, oh, by the way,
y'all, I mean,
I can't believe they didn't.
I, you, Carolyn, and Jamie said, I,
each individually,
can't believe they didn't mention Carolyn
because of what she was doing.
That's it.
And I truly understand why they don't
broadcast it.
Like,
I'm cool with it not being broadcasted.
I just thought it was a storyline.
That's all.
Yeah.
listen i've i've had like i literally when
i'm in an event i have a battery
in each pocket and my camera because like
i'm just feeding batteries can you imagine
how many battery changes they have to do
to stream that event i would have loved
to have known because i know some of
the stuff they were doing like just
getting ready their prep stuff and then uh
Hiller's last behind the scenes this
morning,
and they were talking to Sousa about like,
just put the whole thing together,
like how much it costs and blah, blah,
blah, whatever.
And that's one of the things I was
thinking about is just like having to,
first of all, keep batteries charged,
swap them out as needed and make sure
that the ones that you swapped out get
put back on the chargers,
keeping everything rolling like that.
Like that's a thing in and of itself.
And
I mean, they did phenomenal, dude.
They did phenomenal.
Mad props.
Mad props.
The whole thing was awesome.
Yeah, and through that,
I thought they were innovative with the
picture-in-picture side-by-sides,
which has been something I've been
screaming to have for years,
and they implemented better than anybody
ever has.
Here's what I was thinking about that.
Sousa figured that out.
He said it this morning.
Right, on the fly.
On the fly.
Sousa is not a multimedia company with all
these cameras and all these cameramen with
their headsets where they can listen to
people and whatnot.
Sousa is a gym owner and the producer
of the Salon Show and figured that out.
And you mean to tell me that Hamilton
Road can't do that?
Amen.
I have nothing else to add to that.
And then the other thing that I loved
is, I loved it,
and Sivan said this in that video as
well,
having people sit down for the interviews
right after.
Like I found at Syndicate,
when I had a place for them to
sit down,
I got a better interview when they got
to sit down because they just finished a
hell of a workout, right?
Yeah.
Trying to catch them on the fly on
their feet.
You're getting them out of breath and a
lot of things.
By having them come over and sit down
and then having an honest conversation,
you get a better interview that way.
They killed those.
The sweaty chair.
Gotta love it.
Gotta love it.
I agree completely.
The other action is still going on.
If something happens on the floor,
you can be like, did y'all see that?
Knocked it out the park.
Right.
So with that,
I want to announce that next Wednesday,
you're getting bumped to another day.
Caroline Klutz will be with me.
On Wednesday?
On Wednesday.
Sweet.
So we'll talk about what she did.
And we'll talk about if she had a
decision, if she did have a decision,
whatever it was.
Either way, it's her choice,
one way or another.
Would it have been cool for her to
do Indy?
Sure,
but it would have been one less person
in the Massachusetts women division.
Ultimately, she competed.
She competed her ass off.
She won her division.
Like, good for her.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So anyway, there's that.
Yesterday we talked about the chip on the
shoulder.
I just wanted to revisit that a little
bit.
You've had twenty four hours to marinate
on the whole thing.
We started it with you have a chip
on your shoulder.
You want to make the CrossFit Games as
a master's athlete at the age of fifty.
You have a chip on your shoulder.
You have receipts in your phone.
And that's what motivates you or is one
of our motivators.
Yeah.
That's part of what motivates me.
I wouldn't say that's my,
my one hundred percent thing,
but I want to be the absolute best
that I can be with, with,
with the skills that, you know,
God has given me.
So the other stuff is just stuff that's
added in, right?
Like the, the,
the stuff that's already in me.
you know, all these memories,
emotions and whatnot that are still just
deep seated in me that used to be
a detriment, right?
That used to drive me.
And this is something I've been thinking
about too,
is that it had been very easy for
me.
And it was in my early, you know,
late teens,
early twenties to turn that into something
negative.
And then as I've gotten older and the
more,
especially since I've started CrossFit and
then just learned about mindset and
all that kind of stuff, to take it,
all this negative energy,
all this negative stuff that's in my head,
and turn it and use it as fuel.
And I understand what Dickey was saying
yesterday about what you do when it's not
there anymore.
And I said it yesterday,
and I stand by it today,
is that it doesn't go away.
your memories and your emotions that are
tied to those memories and whatnot,
that's a part of you forever, right?
It's not something that you can delete.
And I wouldn't want it if I could.
I wouldn't want them to go away if
I could because it's made me who I
am today.
So the fact that I've, at some point,
I don't want to say turned a corner
because it's not always positive,
but I don't know a better way to
put it,
turned a corner to the point where I
can use it as fuel
Like,
I don't really want it to go away
because I see it in a different light
now and I can use it to get
me up and get me going and,
for lack of a better word,
to fuck some people up on the floor.
You can't delete it,
but you can release it.
Release the emotion attached to it,
I guess.
Yeah, and I think that's...
We're saying a version of the same thing,
Vicky,
because releasing that emotional
attachment for me is burning it off.
Using it as fuel, burning it off.
Larry says,
John told me I lost my fire like
ten years ago.
I'm like, bro, I got old.
So I told a story about how
CrossFit, in my perception at that moment,
got pulled away from me when I needed
it most.
I went to pull a deadlift.
I was probably over training at the time.
My back went.
had to go in for twelve different
procedures from there to whenever.
And at the time I was coaching and
I was an athlete at the gym and
the owner of the gym asked me to
step down as a coach and to work
on this myself,
get myself right and then come back.
There's been comments that they asked me
to leave.
They didn't ask me to leave.
They just didn't want me to coach anymore.
And because I was in a spiral at
the moment,
because I didn't understand what Vicky was
talking about with neutral,
I had positive and negative,
and I didn't have that middle road to
go to.
I took it as completely negative.
And I felt like they were asking me
to leave.
They did not ask me to leave.
They asked me to stop coaching and get
better before I continued to coach.
But I felt like I had done so
much for them.
I felt like they were leaving me off
on my own to fix it.
And not like you were the person that
helped me get from five hundred and thirty
pounds to two hundred and sixty pounds.
And now that I'm hurt,
you won't help me anymore.
Right.
Like that's how I felt.
And and again,
it was the mindset that she talked about
of going from positive to neutral as
opposed to going positive to negative.
And.
it's made me think a lot um since
she sent me uh her podcast on that
and um and truly and here's jody uh
thanks for the clarification on that
because she did ask me about it my
perception made it way worse than it
really was
It didn't help that the owner had never
been through this before.
He was a young business owner.
You know,
they don't teach business school to
trainers.
And he didn't know what words to use.
Yeah.
When I probably needed it more than
anything.
Yeah.
And what's funny is Kelly Clark and I
talked about it on Tuesday night and she
said the same thing.
Like it is her job as a coach
to make sure that nobody ever walks out
that door feeling like this isn't a place
for, for help.
And if she gets the sense that you're
walking that way anyway,
she will grab you because if you take
too many steps away,
you're never coming back.
Yeah.
So CJ and Dents have been going at
it.
We are arguing in Scott's living room.
I missed the first ten minutes.
So back on the other subject.
You felt abandoned because the story you
had previously built up in your head based
on old experiences.
So the story had roots and therefore
clouded your perception before he even
said what he did.
I think the one thing I'll say to
that, Vicki,
is if he would have came up to
me and said, hey,
we've worked together and we've conquered
so much.
I just need you to take a step
away from coaching so we can get that
focus on you again.
I think would have changed everything for
me in that moment.
But there's a saying that in the military
that save yourself first.
You can't save yourself.
You can't save anybody else.
You had took the first step, right?
Lost a linebacker, like we said yesterday,
two hundred thirty pounds.
And then.
Back injury,
having some setbacks at that point.
Yeah.
Like you said,
if he had just phrased it where, hey,
let's let's work back on saving you again
before to make you whole so that you
can save yourself.
Because he had a proof of concept.
It was him and I that lost the
linebacker, right?
Yeah.
And maybe he doesn't look at it that
way.
Maybe he looks at it like I took
the bulls by the horn and kept showing
up.
But in my eyes,
I felt like he was guiding me down
that path.
And to me, it was together.
And when he said,
you go do your thing and take care
of yourself, it felt like, hey,
go do this alone.
Yeah.
Oh, I get it.
A hundred percent.
I agree,
but you would have heard it that way.
If the story in your head was different
to begin with is all I'm saying.
Yeah.
Not debating Vicki,
just having an open conversation about it.
Cause I,
I still fight the demons of that moment.
And,
and I left that gym because every time
I walked in, I felt like a failure.
And, and I don't, and that,
that made it really hard for that to
be my solution.
Yeah.
Even though you didn't do anything wrong.
Right.
You feel like a failure to yourself.
You feel like you let other people down
because now I'm hurt and I can't do
this.
And now they don't want me to coach
because I'm hurt and I can't do this.
Yeah.
And all the posters they had of me
in my before and after pictures taken
down.
And now I'm walking into this building.
And then there's all the memories of what,
what I could do before the back injury.
Right.
And so then all of that is just
like this.
I felt like a failure and that's why
I left that gym.
primarily to go and went to Polaris.
And like Vicky said right there,
and it just spirals.
Yep.
It's easy to do, man.
Once that shit starts getting in,
it'll pile up and it'll pile up and
it'll pile up and it'll pile up.
And it can be hard to get rid
of, you know,
or to brush off or just however you
want to look at it,
to just move forward in a positive light
after that.
Larry Young.
It definitely,
it's definitely easier with a buddy,
but I kind of feel, but I,
but it's kind of hard to find a
fifty-two-year-old peeps with similar
mindsets.
I wasn't looking for a buddy.
I was looking for a coach.
So, his name's Marcus.
He's a great coach.
He's the one that helped me lose the,
all the weight,
the two hundred and seventy pounds,
and
He didn't ever work out with me.
He just coached me.
He just checked in on me.
He did all those things.
And that's what I felt like was kind
of taken away.
Unfortunately,
I feel like it's a common issue among
coaches not knowing how to help dealing
with injury when it happens.
I know for us at Virtus, anytime somebody,
you know,
and it happens often because it doesn't,
but somebody happens to get injured,
to have an injury,
whether it happens inside the gym or
outside, we tell them, look, come back.
As soon as you are able to,
come back because we will, it's my job.
when I'm on that floor to figure out
a way to make whatever we're doing that
day work for you.
I don't give a shit.
If you got one good leg,
one good arm, no,
like we will figure something out.
That is not,
that is not that big a deal.
I think the comeback is great,
but I think,
I think it has to go a step
further to let them know you're,
you're there with them.
And that's the piece I think that
sometimes gets lost in that conversation.
You know, it's easy to say, Hey,
just come in and hang out with the,
come see everybody do the, you know,
but Hey,
come in and we'll see what you can
do.
We'll see if,
if you can sit on a bike,
we'll see if we'll make a list of
the things you can do.
Yeah.
A hundred percent.
Like I'm not interested in what you can't
do.
I'm way more interested in what you can
do.
You lost your support system.
Yes, I did, Jay Birch.
So this is in addition to what Freda
had already said.
They're great if you go in there already
injured.
If you walk in the door,
and I agree with that,
if you walk in the door injured,
they have a plan.
But when you get injured during the
process,
they don't always necessarily know what
that means, how to handle that.
Vicki,
I am extremely grateful that my first
coach and my new coach, CJ,
are awesome with handling injuries and
creating a situation that I don't spiral
like that while also healing the injury.
I think the complication to this was if
it was an injury that I could have
overcome in six weeks,
I would have been fine.
But this was an injury that through the
insurance system and through everything,
I had to keep trying different procedures
till the main one took, right?
And every time I thought I was over
it, my body failed again.
And then my body failed again.
Because the first back injury was lifting
a laundry basket.
The second one was dead lifting a bar.
The third one was just...
going shoulder to overhead, right?
Like it, and it was,
it's because it never, ever got fixed.
Yeah.
And so after another,
after another repeated thing that kept
happening,
but we don't have to stay on the
negative because I'm going to,
I'm about ready to kick some ass.
What's she, what did he say about CJ?
I mean, he's a PT.
So in addition to being,
and I'm pretty sure he's an L three.
So in addition,
you put those two things together and
like,
he's going to fix or do his damn
just to fix whatever, you know,
give you the tools I should say to
fix whatever it is that's broken to get
you back healthy and,
and doing all the things you want to
do again.
He is a good dude.
Yeah.
I saw him at the masters games with
his athletes.
He's he's freaking amazing.
um meredith i have a bad back myself
horrible injury so frustrating yeah the
thing is i think i got the back
fixed like i'm good there it's the now
we got to get through the other stuff
yeah between your sinuses and your lungs
and you forget that respiratory system the
whole breathing is important as it turns
out i could see cj being a great
coach he's super passionate and gets
invested yes
And then also like J.Y.,
he is right when he isn't.
Got to love when the dad speaks.
Absolutely.
To be fair,
I could watch John Young do just about
anything and it would be entertaining
because that dude is a character in and
of himself.
He is.
He is.
That's why he's on so many shows, man.
The senior analyst.
Just don't take scores during the
broadcast, man.
Can we not do that?
That'd be fantastic.
I like the way Tyler just lit into
it.
Dude, what are you doing?
Yeah.
That was fantastic.
Yeah,
I think the spin behind the scenes is
probably more interesting than the one
they put out to the public.
I bet.
I bet those conversations,
like once you hit, you know,
we're not broadcasting anymore.
I can't even imagine.
I can't even imagine.
John is passionate.
He sure is.
About everything.
Like,
It doesn't matter what it is.
It could be his grocery list.
Like I'm going to get chicken today.
Like he would be yelling it at the,
at the screen.
It doesn't matter what it is,
which is why.
Yeah.
From his father was the worst.
Oh goodness.
Yes.
Guilty face was definitely the worst.
Uh,
That threw me off.
I forgot what I was fixing to say.
But yeah, his body language, yeah,
was absolutely everything.
It's fantastic.
Vicky,
I'm waiting for the day they accidentally
forget to turn off the stream,
but it's not.
As long as Brian is there, they're good.
But if like Sven can't make it for
whatever reason,
he's on vacation and they go live anyway,
that's when that's going to happen.
I feel like Brian's got his finger on
a don't button,
like ready to kill it at any given
point.
Them other...
That's a lot of what happened.
We did it one time.
Way back.
Yeah.
Way back.
Man.
Well, that's a pretty good show for today.
I ain't mad at it.
We will call it a day.
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That will kick off at noon instead of
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And then, yeah,
Sunday night CrossFit talk again this
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Love it.
See what the ladies have to say about
all the commotion of the week.
All the commotion of the week.
The San Jose thing.
Yeah.
We'll talk about it all with that guys.
Have a great rest of your day and
we'll see you guys soon.
Hopefully with my laptop connecting to
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actually in the studio,
actually in the studio.
Yeah.
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