Clydesdale Media Podcast

Every day we take a breath from the busy work day to hang out with friends and talk about the world of sports, entertainment and specifically CrossFit.  Today, we talk about the CrossFit Games Announcing they are going to San Jose for the 2026 Games.  We will follow up on yesterdays chip mindset discussion and the loss of confidence.  Finally, the week has had several people respond to our highlighting of Caroline Kluttz and some of it is just bizzare.

What is Clydesdale Media Podcast?

We cover the sport of CrossFit from all angles. We talk with athletes, coaches and celebrities that compete and surround in the sport of CrossFit at all levels. We also bring you Breaking News, Human Interest Stories and report on the Methodology of CrossFit. We also use the methodology to make ourselves the fittest we can be.

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We're gonna talk about that next.

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I love the chase and the hunt,

and I set the pace when I'm running.

I always take what I want,

and I always give it one hundred.

Don't need a bank, no I'm funded.

Play the game like it's nothing.

I'm always thankful for something.

Don't take for granted, stay humble.

Now wake up!

It's time to look at the enemy.

Look in the mirror if he is no

friend to me.

What is going on everybody?

After multiple attempts on internet,

we are live finally.

Holy shit, dude.

It hasn't been this bad in quite some

time.

I think from the day I joined in

at the pool,

it was like me and Dex and one

other Masters guy.

Yeah, yeah, Ryan Redkey.

Yeah, with Ryan.

Yeah, that was good stuff right there.

Yeah,

when your phone was overheating at the

pool.

He kept doing it over and over again.

Yeah, Dex is frying pork chops.

Yeah.

Fantastic.

Oh man.

It's crazy.

Cause now for some reason,

every time I go downstairs,

I lose the internet on the laptop and

it will not connect to anything.

And I don't know if it's something in

the road caster, maybe connecting to that.

I mean,

cause I'm literally just the floor is the

only thing between me and the,

and the router.

Yeah.

Which makes no sense whatsoever.

That shouldn't be a thing.

It should not be.

So, uh,

We had a great talk yesterday.

We're going to follow up on that a

little bit now that I can actually see

that.

So I have internet.

My laptop just doesn't want to connect to

it when I'm down in the studio.

All of a sudden, after six years,

the last two days,

it just will not hook up.

So we're going to talk,

we're going to follow up on that

conversation a little bit,

but some news hit yesterday and I had

to go back in the office today for

the first time in like maybe three years.

I know it's been quite some time since

you and I have had that conversation a

bunch.

Well, like,

I haven't worked in the office in five.

Right.

Like, since COVID hit,

I have not been back.

Now,

I had to go in for a meeting

like three years ago, two years, three,

two, I don't know.

And haven't been back since.

But it's funny because I had to go

take my laptop from my work laptop in

and have it changed out for a newer

one.

Because it's the same one I had when

I left in two to twenty twenty.

Oh, yeah.

And I walk in and.

And it's my buddy that I used to

go to for all my IT needs,

like that guy, you know,

that you just became buddies with because

under the table, he can fix your shit.

Right.

And now he's the head of IT.

I mean, somebody's got to be.

And so we got to hang out,

talk a little bit today,

which was really cool because I don't get

that interaction anymore.

Well, good.

But that was fun.

Now I'm back here for the rest of

the day.

Meredith, do I still have a desk there?

I do not.

They actually sold off all their

buildings.

And there's barely any spots left.

And that's one of the reasons why I

can't go back.

There's no place to put us.

Oh, darn.

Oh, no, I can't go back.

Oh, God, no, shucks.

They keep trying to send my wife back.

Someone please fill me in on the Dallin

Colton thing.

I'm lost.

I didn't know there was a Dallin Colton

thing.

I know there's a Colton someone thing.

In the comments, Dallin was like,

just say my name, bro.

But it's hard to tell if he's just

being stupid,

like messing around with him or not.

Gotcha.

Because Dallin said he would say his name,

but he wanted to give the person an

opportunity to say their piece before the

call out.

Correct.

And I know Colton called somebody out.

I find it hard to believe that it

was Dallin who would refuse to follow him

back.

It might have been Dallin just,

but who knows?

There's no way.

I just don't.

He's too good of a kid, man.

I just don't see that happening.

Yeah.

It's not his style.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I found it weird that The Boys Interrupted

went live this week without Dallin and

didn't really say why.

Because it came out like immediately after

that,

that he was that he had the rhabdo

and couldn't go back to Rogue.

Yeah.

Vicky says I assumed it was Hopper.

John George Hopper.

That's who I assumed it was.

They have like a little running tiff.

But who knows?

You know what?

We've talked about this before.

Good.

Yeah, I don't mind it.

Good.

We have something to talk about,

number one.

Number two,

everybody should not be friends with

everybody.

That's unrealistic.

For everybody just to be, oh,

when the behind the scenes thing that,

what's his face did,

when he's walking around asking everybody

if they had a nemesis.

And everybody, to a person, except Colton,

was like, oh, no, not really.

I'm just here, you know,

I'm just here competing and blah, blah,

blah.

Which is nonsense.

I'm going to tell you right now,

it's bullshit because I get in the back

when I'm at a competition.

I know there's people there that I do

not like and I want to crush.

Period.

You're not going to like everybody.

That's just life.

We talked about it yesterday.

We all have rivals, right?

I've said Todd was my rival when I

first went into the CrossFit gym,

and I wanted to beat him every single

day.

And I would strategize on how to hit

the workout to be able to take him

on.

And it made me better,

and it made me more successful,

and all that.

But before we get into the chip and

all those things that we talked about

yesterday –

I want to talk about that San Jose

was announced as the next location to the

twenty twenty six CrossFit Games.

So, twentieth anniversary.

We're going back to Cali.

Going back to Cali.

I watched Amanda Harry's thing this

morning.

I actually texted her yesterday and told

her that she is she's responsible now

because she lives there to set up the

trivia night for the media team.

Hey, congratulations.

I just gave you a job.

But she actually lives in Oakland and she

told me she's probably going to have to

get a hotel just because of traffic.

Oh, well, yeah, I could see that.

Oakland up to San Jose,

it's typically about forty five minutes,

no traffic.

But with traffic,

she's going to have to be she's forced

to kind of get a hotel.

Well, I mean,

I don't know how big San Jose is,

but I know like Oakland in San Francisco

is

across the bay from each other two big

really big places and i snapped it out

so you have oakland and san francisco and

then right below that is uh san jose

so it's they're all on the bay in

like a triangle got it got it so

yeah that makes sense that's like what

we're talking about with tristan the other

day where if you're in houston you're

still an hour from houston

Like you can drive in a straight line

and not be done.

So, yeah,

I could see that having to stay,

not be able to stay at your house,

even though the venue is forty five

minutes from.

I can see that.

I could absolutely see that.

I don't think it's a like or not

like I think mentally when you're in the

game, you just need a rabbit.

It's just something to chase or try to

run away from.

I think with Colton, it's more than that.

I think it's,

it's that chip that we've talked about the

last couple of days.

Um, so I think,

I think he has the chip on his

shoulder and he wants to prove stuff.

Um, so anyway.

A hundred percent.

Remember on the, uh,

one of the old documentaries when they

were talking about, uh, uh, uh,

bridges talking about, uh,

And they said he doesn't like being told

he's the shortest and the oldest in the

field.

Like,

I imagine after so many times hearing

that, oh, yeah,

Colton's five foot three or however tall

he is.

Like,

that shit will wear on you after a

while.

And you're just like, you know what?

F y'all.

Yeah, I am.

And watch.

You know,

that video he posted of him doing the

thirty inch box clears and just casually

jumping over the box,

taking a couple steps,

jumping over the box,

just turn around and going like.

Well,

and I've said on this show a couple

times that I don't think he can win

the games.

I think that the extra effort he has

to put in to overcome his obstacles in

a four- or three-day weekend is really,

really hard and will make it hard for

him to win the games.

And other people can think I'm wrong,

and that's fine.

And I'm sure Colton thinks I'm wrong.

But I still love the dude.

Like, I want him to win the games.

I can want him to do it and

not think he can at the same time.

It's just – I don't want to say

being realistic because I think he can.

Just because I know, like –

For me,

and I feel like for Colton as well,

the more events there are,

the better there is because it minimizes

the things that you're really not that

good at or can't be that good at

because of your body type.

I got short legs, long torso, short arms.

I'm a horrible rower.

It doesn't matter how much I work on

it.

I have to put out more effort than

other people do when I row, period,

to be able to keep up.

Just a fact of life.

It doesn't matter how strong I am.

My pull is not going to be as

long as somebody else's is.

So I need more events to be able

to minimize damage on that one,

to be able to maximize my points on

the other one.

And I think Colton's a lot the same

way.

I think your advantage is, though,

that in the Masters division,

at the games,

they don't get so over the top with

the programming.

Oh, yeah, absolutely.

I'm never going to have to do a

pit bull.

Right.

Like, that's not,

that's not going to be a thing.

I'm never going to have to do some

of the crazy stuff that they've done.

I would like to,

I would look the obstacle course from what

was it?

Oh, of course.

Twenty-nineteen with rescue Randy.

Seventeen, eighteen.

Something like that.

Whichever one it was, I would love that.

That looked fun as hell.

Right.

And that's a fitness test.

Like we're going to run,

we're going to go,

we're obviously going to move stuff from

here to there, blah, blah, blah, whatever.

I would absolutely kill for stuff like

that.

But I also know that there's stuff that

is in my training weekly,

biweekly or whatever that I just skip over

because in my division,

I'm not going to need to know how

to do that so I can spend more

time working on the stuff that matters.

Yeah.

So Larry Young, four ninety nine.

Thank you so much for that, Larry.

All right, boys,

what do we think quarter workouts will

look like?

I know Jay Burch is like in it

a little early,

but I think Larry's looking like how much

time should he put into training this?

Do do I actually do some fitness or

just watch?

It's not early if you're in my condition

and need some time.

Dude,

he can talk about his condition all he

wants.

We follow each other on Instagram,

and I've seen some of the stuff that

he does, dude.

Some of it's not pretty.

Like his muscle-ups are baffling me every

single time because they're basically like

just strict bar muscle-ups.

It's insane to watch.

But he gets through them and then goes

on to the next thing.

So I don't want to hear about that.

His pure raw strength is unreal.

It's bananas, dude.

It is absolutely bananas.

And I understand how it got passed down

to his son.

Like that's genetics all the way through.

You wonder why John Young is as strong

as he is.

Go follow Larry.

Yeah.

What I would say Larry needs to work

on is mobility.

A little bit.

Work on mobility.

And then I think the fitness will come

in a little bit more.

He is fit from what I can see.

I mean,

I've never had a chance to train a

man.

I'd love to.

But his just raw strength and just the

stuff that he does,

every time I see some stuff,

I shake my head and I laugh.

It's fun to watch.

It really is.

Yeah.

He is a unicorn in the strength department

for sure.

A hundred percent.

A hundred percent.

If Bob and Joe keep programming,

just do machines and lift.

Don't worry about moving well and having

skills.

So I don't know.

Just so you know, John,

John is a salty individual when it comes

to the programming of the Masters games.

I think him and Jamie are we're twins

separated at birth.

Yeah, I can believe that.

I can believe that every time like

something comes up,

I'll text Jamie and I'll be like,

what do you think about this?

Oh, it sucks.

And it doesn't matter.

Right.

doesn't matter what it is.

Like, it could be something like, I mean,

I'd probably be good at it.

But I mean, it's just stupid.

I'm like,

this is why me and you were friends

right here.

PJ Slauson, Jaclyn, see you guys there.

Corey better make it happen.

And she's talking about the games.

Yeah.

I booked my hotel room yesterday.

I got a really good deal.

I don't know if the hotels were aware

that this was announced because I thought

I was going to have to pay a

premium, and I got a really good deal.

Good deal.

Glad to hear it.

So I think I snuck in and got

a hotel room under the wire.

So I'm at the airport.

Amanda tells me it's three miles,

three miles from the airport to the –

Somebody was saying that during the –

cases broadcast yesterday,

like in the comments, they were saying,

like, if you fly into San Jose, like,

it's right there.

Yeah, like, it's like, you basically,

you can almost walk from there to the

to the Larry,

mine was cheaper than Albany,

my to buy probably.

Five hundred bucks.

I probably saved.

Yeah.

Wow.

That's substantial.

The lens media only half mile away.

that's great that's i hate saying shit

like that's crazy because it always sounds

like somebody's not actually paying

attention but that actually is pretty it's

that close to the year uh and he

may be working for me at the games

next year so just kind of see how

big of a team they let me have

when do they announce that kind of stuff

like when you can apply for your video

pass and shit probably not so after the

first year it always seems way too late

to me but

Um, I'm looking at Airbnbs right now.

Prices are really good.

Uh,

scud said you can walk there from the

airport.

Well, if you're scuds, you can, I mean,

Alison is pretty damn fit.

So, but excited about that.

Excited about that.

Um,

it sounds like it's a really nice place.

Um, and the prices are great.

And, um,

So I'm excited because I do think,

I do think there's the opportunity to go

outside a little bit.

Maybe somebody was saying there's a, uh,

some sort of park that's like right next

door.

Uh,

so I was saying yesterday that like the

ranch is.

So you can almost expect to see like

another trail run or something like that.

Maybe cause they're saying, you know,

Friday, Saturday, Sunday,

But check-in's probably going to be on a

Monday.

Most athletes are going to be there all

week anyway.

So, oh, by the way,

we're going to get everybody to the ranch

on Thursday and do two events,

three events, whatever the case may be.

You know,

Dave likes to do shit like that.

But there it is,

a twenty-three minute drive from the arena

to the ranch.

My internet's getting sketchy again.

Of course it is.

This is ridiculous, man.

all right um you can take a the

cal train from sfo airport to san jose

if you're coming from farther away nice so

that gives two airport options yeah yeah

the ranch isn't far when we went to

fitness freedom at the ranch i was shocked

how close yeah so like i said that

wouldn't

And not just me, George,

to the surprise of absolutely no one that

we're going to have something over there.

Well,

Dave announced on that sport of fitness

podcast that there's a twist coming either

next week or the week after they're going

to make the announcement.

I'm assuming it's going to be,

I'm assuming it's going to be at the

ranch.

Yeah.

I think everybody is.

That's what it was like.

Just like so many people were calling it

to be in San Jose and,

Right.

Everybody was like, Oh yeah,

it's probably going to be insane.

Cause they saw it.

They had pictures of Dave walking around

the stadium and whatnot.

Like he was checking it out.

Um,

and then to the surprise of absolutely no

one.

Hey, yeah.

By the way, it's in San Jose.

Can we talk about how awesome Tia Claire

to me is three o'clock in the morning.

Yeah.

She gets up, does her fate.

Like,

Because that's not,

I just woke up two seconds ago phase,

right?

Does her stuff, gets up,

and goes on there for five minutes just

to be able to announce, hey,

the games are going to be in San

Jose.

And I said it yesterday,

and further cementing her spot as the

greatest of all time,

because who's doing that?

Who is waking up?

On the other side of the world at

three o'clock in the morning because they

asked you to for no other reason than

the fact that, hey,

would you mind coming and do this?

Well, yeah,

but I'm going to be at my place

in Australia.

Oh, well, you don't have to.

No, it's fine.

I'll just get up at three in the

morning.

I thought standing.

Well, true.

Well, yeah.

Well, David Reed,

wish it had been in Columbus.

I would have, too.

But that's very selfish of me.

It is the twentieth anniversary,

and it probably should go home.

Yeah.

I mean,

we can all wish in one hand and

poop in the other one and see which

one fills up first.

I'm sure you know how that's going to

happen.

She really is leading the community right

now, and I'm super impressed.

I just have a hard time with her

content.

all the clickbait they use,

and then you watch fifteen minutes and

nothing is said.

Yeah, not a fan of that,

but she is one hundred percent leading

from the front.

No announcement yet for age groups.

Yeah,

I think they're full press on the elites

getting all that stuff out.

So, Andrew,

literally yesterday I was like this,

like the entire time,

hoping that Dave would say something about

it, something about, I mean,

we're going to have three semifinals for

age group before we do the online last

chance qualifier,

whatever you want to call it,

something like that.

But in my heart of hearts,

they weren't going to say a shit about

us yesterday.

That's just a fact.

Not on the debut show.

Nobody watches Masters but the Clydesdale.

It was said in the chat yesterday.

It'd be the only one to show up.

Just like they're not going to talk about

the Moscow Kettlebell League on the show

either.

Same thing.

When we see it,

Brian will be the only one to sit

that one.

In the

The ultimate Frisbee league.

Next week.

I would expect something about it next

week.

You're about to get clipped again, Scott.

Fifteen minutes and says nothing.

I mean...

I got to title a podcast this week.

That's a fact.

Which was... Dude, I laughed so much.

I love... They could do...

A whole series on just telling like old

stories like that.

Talk about Rich and them.

Like that show was hilarious.

Just all this different stuff they were

talking about and like just how.

Thrown together,

all of that stuff was like.

What it was sectionals back then,

just literally just like, oh,

we're out here in the grass doing

thrusters every time or deadless every

time you drop the barbell.

By the time you finish,

you're picking it up off your toes to

get it off.

I love Petty Rich.

And, you know,

I did say that they click baited me

into a podcast that said nothing,

absolutely nothing.

It's a waste of time.

And then he calls his show a waste

of time.

Like that is.

You know what though?

Petty Rich at his best.

It shows he's paying attention.

Yeah.

Yeah.

CJ says age group announcements is next

week.

Stay tuned to the WOD Prep Podcast.

Hey, brother.

I watch y'all every week.

I was looking for y'all this morning on

my way back from the pool,

and y'all were not live today,

so I imagine it's going on tomorrow.

What's frustrating for me about the WOD

Prep Podcast?

Oh, here we go.

Pay attention, CJ.

Is I can't watch it live.

It's on at eight a.m.

where I'm at.

When I get to work,

that's when all the morning meetings are.

And I get stuck in meetings and cannot

watch it live.

I got caught up on the one from

earlier this week.

Yesterday, I believe.

Yeah,

like I think after either before we did

this or after the other one.

No, it had to be before because.

We went from us to chase to seven

and then, uh, Pedro, like there was,

there was content all day yesterday.

It's good stuff.

Yeah.

Um, uh,

CJ will be live all weekend at affiliate

con, uh, interviewing all,

a lot of the speakers.

Sweet.

I do want to like, gosh.

Jason Ackerman, I used to despise.

When I first got into CrossFit and kind

of diving into the podcast scene,

best hour of their day,

I thought he was like so condescending.

Then I met him live and I love

the dude.

I don't know why that didn't come across

to me in the podcast,

but when I met him live,

we sat down and talked.

We talked a lot the day I met

him.

And then I had him on the show,

and he was a great guest.

It was awesome,

but I really didn't like him for a

long time.

He leans into it.

As soon as he came on on Siobhan's

show the other day with those yellow,

orange, whatever glasses,

everybody was lighting him up in the

comments.

He was just like, yep,

I know they're stupid.

I'm wearing them anyway.

He was perfectly fine with it.

He's really, really good at that.

I can understand because if you just

listen to him speak not knowing,

he's very, very knowledgeable.

He obviously knows what he's talking

about,

but it's just his tone half the time.

He sounds like he's talking down to

everybody.

Turns out,

Not really.

He's kind of an asshole.

That's fine.

But he is very, very,

he knows what he's talking about,

and he's actually very,

what's the one looking for?

Insightful.

Insightful.

Self-deprecating, all that stuff.

Self-deprecating, that's the word.

Yeah,

he bangs on himself as much as he

bangs on anybody else.

Absolutely.

CJ says most people feel that way.

Yeah.

Oh, well, speaking of media reaction.

I don't I don't want to take up

a lot of time on this because it

it is really taken up the whole week

but like on every show like dense and

savan and everybody saying that we were

critical of a crash and I am baffled

where they got that were critical of

crash.

The only thing we said is that we

thought that Caroline Klutz deserved more

media attention for what she accomplished.

That was it.

It had nothing to do with the programming.

It had nothing to do with anything else.

And.

Yeah.

And it's just frustrating that it has

happened.

However, our numbers are way up this week.

So, like, I don't know, like,

do I embrace it and just say, okay,

criticize away, whatever.

We'll just take it with a lump.

But one comment got me,

and it was we posted the reel talking

about Caroline.

And Bryson wrote,

don't tell me what to care about.

And I'm thinking,

isn't that what podcasts are?

That's what media is.

When he does Shut Up and Scribble,

isn't he telling me that I should care

about squat depth and balanced

programming?

Whatever the topics are,

that's what you're telling me you want me

to care about as a podcaster.

That's fantastic.

So...

I don't want to read tone into it

because I don't know what Tony said it

with.

And so I don't know what it truly

meant.

When I read it, I was like,

but isn't that what we all do?

We all say what you should care about

today by having a list of topics.

Absolutely.

And last time,

horses is dead it hasn't been beat uh

and beat all the hell and back it's

an opinion and it's a honestly for what

she did miss klutz did it's a valid

opinion right and that's it everything

else y'all said i watched the whole damn

show was nothing but this is a was

a fantastic broadcast uh bill and freaking

john were awesome the camera shots were

fantastic like

And then, God forbid, oh, by the way,

y'all, I mean,

I can't believe they didn't.

I, you, Carolyn, and Jamie said, I,

each individually,

can't believe they didn't mention Carolyn

because of what she was doing.

That's it.

And I truly understand why they don't

broadcast it.

Like,

I'm cool with it not being broadcasted.

I just thought it was a storyline.

That's all.

Yeah.

listen i've i've had like i literally when

i'm in an event i have a battery

in each pocket and my camera because like

i'm just feeding batteries can you imagine

how many battery changes they have to do

to stream that event i would have loved

to have known because i know some of

the stuff they were doing like just

getting ready their prep stuff and then uh

Hiller's last behind the scenes this

morning,

and they were talking to Sousa about like,

just put the whole thing together,

like how much it costs and blah, blah,

blah, whatever.

And that's one of the things I was

thinking about is just like having to,

first of all, keep batteries charged,

swap them out as needed and make sure

that the ones that you swapped out get

put back on the chargers,

keeping everything rolling like that.

Like that's a thing in and of itself.

And

I mean, they did phenomenal, dude.

They did phenomenal.

Mad props.

Mad props.

The whole thing was awesome.

Yeah, and through that,

I thought they were innovative with the

picture-in-picture side-by-sides,

which has been something I've been

screaming to have for years,

and they implemented better than anybody

ever has.

Here's what I was thinking about that.

Sousa figured that out.

He said it this morning.

Right, on the fly.

On the fly.

Sousa is not a multimedia company with all

these cameras and all these cameramen with

their headsets where they can listen to

people and whatnot.

Sousa is a gym owner and the producer

of the Salon Show and figured that out.

And you mean to tell me that Hamilton

Road can't do that?

Amen.

I have nothing else to add to that.

And then the other thing that I loved

is, I loved it,

and Sivan said this in that video as

well,

having people sit down for the interviews

right after.

Like I found at Syndicate,

when I had a place for them to

sit down,

I got a better interview when they got

to sit down because they just finished a

hell of a workout, right?

Yeah.

Trying to catch them on the fly on

their feet.

You're getting them out of breath and a

lot of things.

By having them come over and sit down

and then having an honest conversation,

you get a better interview that way.

They killed those.

The sweaty chair.

Gotta love it.

Gotta love it.

I agree completely.

The other action is still going on.

If something happens on the floor,

you can be like, did y'all see that?

Knocked it out the park.

Right.

So with that,

I want to announce that next Wednesday,

you're getting bumped to another day.

Caroline Klutz will be with me.

On Wednesday?

On Wednesday.

Sweet.

So we'll talk about what she did.

And we'll talk about if she had a

decision, if she did have a decision,

whatever it was.

Either way, it's her choice,

one way or another.

Would it have been cool for her to

do Indy?

Sure,

but it would have been one less person

in the Massachusetts women division.

Ultimately, she competed.

She competed her ass off.

She won her division.

Like, good for her.

Yeah.

Yeah.

So anyway, there's that.

Yesterday we talked about the chip on the

shoulder.

I just wanted to revisit that a little

bit.

You've had twenty four hours to marinate

on the whole thing.

We started it with you have a chip

on your shoulder.

You want to make the CrossFit Games as

a master's athlete at the age of fifty.

You have a chip on your shoulder.

You have receipts in your phone.

And that's what motivates you or is one

of our motivators.

Yeah.

That's part of what motivates me.

I wouldn't say that's my,

my one hundred percent thing,

but I want to be the absolute best

that I can be with, with,

with the skills that, you know,

God has given me.

So the other stuff is just stuff that's

added in, right?

Like the, the,

the stuff that's already in me.

you know, all these memories,

emotions and whatnot that are still just

deep seated in me that used to be

a detriment, right?

That used to drive me.

And this is something I've been thinking

about too,

is that it had been very easy for

me.

And it was in my early, you know,

late teens,

early twenties to turn that into something

negative.

And then as I've gotten older and the

more,

especially since I've started CrossFit and

then just learned about mindset and

all that kind of stuff, to take it,

all this negative energy,

all this negative stuff that's in my head,

and turn it and use it as fuel.

And I understand what Dickey was saying

yesterday about what you do when it's not

there anymore.

And I said it yesterday,

and I stand by it today,

is that it doesn't go away.

your memories and your emotions that are

tied to those memories and whatnot,

that's a part of you forever, right?

It's not something that you can delete.

And I wouldn't want it if I could.

I wouldn't want them to go away if

I could because it's made me who I

am today.

So the fact that I've, at some point,

I don't want to say turned a corner

because it's not always positive,

but I don't know a better way to

put it,

turned a corner to the point where I

can use it as fuel

Like,

I don't really want it to go away

because I see it in a different light

now and I can use it to get

me up and get me going and,

for lack of a better word,

to fuck some people up on the floor.

You can't delete it,

but you can release it.

Release the emotion attached to it,

I guess.

Yeah, and I think that's...

We're saying a version of the same thing,

Vicky,

because releasing that emotional

attachment for me is burning it off.

Using it as fuel, burning it off.

Larry says,

John told me I lost my fire like

ten years ago.

I'm like, bro, I got old.

So I told a story about how

CrossFit, in my perception at that moment,

got pulled away from me when I needed

it most.

I went to pull a deadlift.

I was probably over training at the time.

My back went.

had to go in for twelve different

procedures from there to whenever.

And at the time I was coaching and

I was an athlete at the gym and

the owner of the gym asked me to

step down as a coach and to work

on this myself,

get myself right and then come back.

There's been comments that they asked me

to leave.

They didn't ask me to leave.

They just didn't want me to coach anymore.

And because I was in a spiral at

the moment,

because I didn't understand what Vicky was

talking about with neutral,

I had positive and negative,

and I didn't have that middle road to

go to.

I took it as completely negative.

And I felt like they were asking me

to leave.

They did not ask me to leave.

They asked me to stop coaching and get

better before I continued to coach.

But I felt like I had done so

much for them.

I felt like they were leaving me off

on my own to fix it.

And not like you were the person that

helped me get from five hundred and thirty

pounds to two hundred and sixty pounds.

And now that I'm hurt,

you won't help me anymore.

Right.

Like that's how I felt.

And and again,

it was the mindset that she talked about

of going from positive to neutral as

opposed to going positive to negative.

And.

it's made me think a lot um since

she sent me uh her podcast on that

and um and truly and here's jody uh

thanks for the clarification on that

because she did ask me about it my

perception made it way worse than it

really was

It didn't help that the owner had never

been through this before.

He was a young business owner.

You know,

they don't teach business school to

trainers.

And he didn't know what words to use.

Yeah.

When I probably needed it more than

anything.

Yeah.

And what's funny is Kelly Clark and I

talked about it on Tuesday night and she

said the same thing.

Like it is her job as a coach

to make sure that nobody ever walks out

that door feeling like this isn't a place

for, for help.

And if she gets the sense that you're

walking that way anyway,

she will grab you because if you take

too many steps away,

you're never coming back.

Yeah.

So CJ and Dents have been going at

it.

We are arguing in Scott's living room.

I missed the first ten minutes.

So back on the other subject.

You felt abandoned because the story you

had previously built up in your head based

on old experiences.

So the story had roots and therefore

clouded your perception before he even

said what he did.

I think the one thing I'll say to

that, Vicki,

is if he would have came up to

me and said, hey,

we've worked together and we've conquered

so much.

I just need you to take a step

away from coaching so we can get that

focus on you again.

I think would have changed everything for

me in that moment.

But there's a saying that in the military

that save yourself first.

You can't save yourself.

You can't save anybody else.

You had took the first step, right?

Lost a linebacker, like we said yesterday,

two hundred thirty pounds.

And then.

Back injury,

having some setbacks at that point.

Yeah.

Like you said,

if he had just phrased it where, hey,

let's let's work back on saving you again

before to make you whole so that you

can save yourself.

Because he had a proof of concept.

It was him and I that lost the

linebacker, right?

Yeah.

And maybe he doesn't look at it that

way.

Maybe he looks at it like I took

the bulls by the horn and kept showing

up.

But in my eyes,

I felt like he was guiding me down

that path.

And to me, it was together.

And when he said,

you go do your thing and take care

of yourself, it felt like, hey,

go do this alone.

Yeah.

Oh, I get it.

A hundred percent.

I agree,

but you would have heard it that way.

If the story in your head was different

to begin with is all I'm saying.

Yeah.

Not debating Vicki,

just having an open conversation about it.

Cause I,

I still fight the demons of that moment.

And,

and I left that gym because every time

I walked in, I felt like a failure.

And, and I don't, and that,

that made it really hard for that to

be my solution.

Yeah.

Even though you didn't do anything wrong.

Right.

You feel like a failure to yourself.

You feel like you let other people down

because now I'm hurt and I can't do

this.

And now they don't want me to coach

because I'm hurt and I can't do this.

Yeah.

And all the posters they had of me

in my before and after pictures taken

down.

And now I'm walking into this building.

And then there's all the memories of what,

what I could do before the back injury.

Right.

And so then all of that is just

like this.

I felt like a failure and that's why

I left that gym.

primarily to go and went to Polaris.

And like Vicky said right there,

and it just spirals.

Yep.

It's easy to do, man.

Once that shit starts getting in,

it'll pile up and it'll pile up and

it'll pile up and it'll pile up.

And it can be hard to get rid

of, you know,

or to brush off or just however you

want to look at it,

to just move forward in a positive light

after that.

Larry Young.

It definitely,

it's definitely easier with a buddy,

but I kind of feel, but I,

but it's kind of hard to find a

fifty-two-year-old peeps with similar

mindsets.

I wasn't looking for a buddy.

I was looking for a coach.

So, his name's Marcus.

He's a great coach.

He's the one that helped me lose the,

all the weight,

the two hundred and seventy pounds,

and

He didn't ever work out with me.

He just coached me.

He just checked in on me.

He did all those things.

And that's what I felt like was kind

of taken away.

Unfortunately,

I feel like it's a common issue among

coaches not knowing how to help dealing

with injury when it happens.

I know for us at Virtus, anytime somebody,

you know,

and it happens often because it doesn't,

but somebody happens to get injured,

to have an injury,

whether it happens inside the gym or

outside, we tell them, look, come back.

As soon as you are able to,

come back because we will, it's my job.

when I'm on that floor to figure out

a way to make whatever we're doing that

day work for you.

I don't give a shit.

If you got one good leg,

one good arm, no,

like we will figure something out.

That is not,

that is not that big a deal.

I think the comeback is great,

but I think,

I think it has to go a step

further to let them know you're,

you're there with them.

And that's the piece I think that

sometimes gets lost in that conversation.

You know, it's easy to say, Hey,

just come in and hang out with the,

come see everybody do the, you know,

but Hey,

come in and we'll see what you can

do.

We'll see if,

if you can sit on a bike,

we'll see if we'll make a list of

the things you can do.

Yeah.

A hundred percent.

Like I'm not interested in what you can't

do.

I'm way more interested in what you can

do.

You lost your support system.

Yes, I did, Jay Birch.

So this is in addition to what Freda

had already said.

They're great if you go in there already

injured.

If you walk in the door,

and I agree with that,

if you walk in the door injured,

they have a plan.

But when you get injured during the

process,

they don't always necessarily know what

that means, how to handle that.

Vicki,

I am extremely grateful that my first

coach and my new coach, CJ,

are awesome with handling injuries and

creating a situation that I don't spiral

like that while also healing the injury.

I think the complication to this was if

it was an injury that I could have

overcome in six weeks,

I would have been fine.

But this was an injury that through the

insurance system and through everything,

I had to keep trying different procedures

till the main one took, right?

And every time I thought I was over

it, my body failed again.

And then my body failed again.

Because the first back injury was lifting

a laundry basket.

The second one was dead lifting a bar.

The third one was just...

going shoulder to overhead, right?

Like it, and it was,

it's because it never, ever got fixed.

Yeah.

And so after another,

after another repeated thing that kept

happening,

but we don't have to stay on the

negative because I'm going to,

I'm about ready to kick some ass.

What's she, what did he say about CJ?

I mean, he's a PT.

So in addition to being,

and I'm pretty sure he's an L three.

So in addition,

you put those two things together and

like,

he's going to fix or do his damn

just to fix whatever, you know,

give you the tools I should say to

fix whatever it is that's broken to get

you back healthy and,

and doing all the things you want to

do again.

He is a good dude.

Yeah.

I saw him at the masters games with

his athletes.

He's he's freaking amazing.

um meredith i have a bad back myself

horrible injury so frustrating yeah the

thing is i think i got the back

fixed like i'm good there it's the now

we got to get through the other stuff

yeah between your sinuses and your lungs

and you forget that respiratory system the

whole breathing is important as it turns

out i could see cj being a great

coach he's super passionate and gets

invested yes

And then also like J.Y.,

he is right when he isn't.

Got to love when the dad speaks.

Absolutely.

To be fair,

I could watch John Young do just about

anything and it would be entertaining

because that dude is a character in and

of himself.

He is.

He is.

That's why he's on so many shows, man.

The senior analyst.

Just don't take scores during the

broadcast, man.

Can we not do that?

That'd be fantastic.

I like the way Tyler just lit into

it.

Dude, what are you doing?

Yeah.

That was fantastic.

Yeah,

I think the spin behind the scenes is

probably more interesting than the one

they put out to the public.

I bet.

I bet those conversations,

like once you hit, you know,

we're not broadcasting anymore.

I can't even imagine.

I can't even imagine.

John is passionate.

He sure is.

About everything.

Like,

It doesn't matter what it is.

It could be his grocery list.

Like I'm going to get chicken today.

Like he would be yelling it at the,

at the screen.

It doesn't matter what it is,

which is why.

Yeah.

From his father was the worst.

Oh goodness.

Yes.

Guilty face was definitely the worst.

Uh,

That threw me off.

I forgot what I was fixing to say.

But yeah, his body language, yeah,

was absolutely everything.

It's fantastic.

Vicky,

I'm waiting for the day they accidentally

forget to turn off the stream,

but it's not.

As long as Brian is there, they're good.

But if like Sven can't make it for

whatever reason,

he's on vacation and they go live anyway,

that's when that's going to happen.

I feel like Brian's got his finger on

a don't button,

like ready to kill it at any given

point.

Them other...

That's a lot of what happened.

We did it one time.

Way back.

Yeah.

Way back.

Man.

Well, that's a pretty good show for today.

I ain't mad at it.

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And then, yeah,

Sunday night CrossFit talk again this

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Love it.

See what the ladies have to say about

all the commotion of the week.

All the commotion of the week.

The San Jose thing.

Yeah.

We'll talk about it all with that guys.

Have a great rest of your day and

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Yeah.

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