Mr. Mom

Mr. Mom (1983): John Hughes’ Hilarious Family Classic! 

Join host Katie and guest Craig Cohen from The GOAT: A Brian De Palma Fan Podcast  as they dive into the 1983 John Hughes comedy Mr. Mom! We explore Michael Keaton’s first starring role as a stay-at-home dad, the film’s cozy 80s nostalgia, and its sharp take on shifting family dynamics. From rogue vacuums to corporate Olympics, we unpack this smash hit.

We break down Mr. Mom, where Michael Keaton’s Jack Butler navigates parenting chaos after being furloughed, while Teri Garr’s Caroline thrives in the workforce. We discuss the film’s iconic scenes, 80s pop culture references (Rocky, Jaws, Young and the Restless), and its surprisingly progressive humor. Plus, we spin the 1983 Retro Time Capsule for G.I. Joe, Diet Coke, and more!

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Host

Craig Cohen

Host

Katie Geilenkirchen

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thank you meet dad he's a real man
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done beer 7:00 in the morning scotch an allout
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go-getter but when his job pulled the plug on him I'm fine
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you son of a dude they threw a switch okay good luck and
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he became the lady of the house [Music]
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it sure looks like he got a terrific deal honey if you call I'm not here i'll be at the gym or at the gun club
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exercise and relaxation good home
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cooking arts and crafts getty don't paint your sister and fun and games with
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the neighbors are these any good got two pair i got plenty that's when he was
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forced to face the bare facts his new job is a mother michael
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Keaton where does Bobby keep the extra diapers and Terry Gar in Mr mop a mother of a comedy
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[Music]
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hello hello i'm Katie and welcome to RetroMade your pop culture rewind today
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we go back to 1983 to explore how a John Hughes pent classic
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captured the era's shifting family dynamics and remains a favorite today with Mr mom i am very happy to have a
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returning guest with me today Craig Cohen from The Goat a Brian Dealma fan
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podcast craig thank you so much for joining me on season two of RetroAde oh
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thank you for having me and congrats on season two and yeah I had a blast last time I was here so I'm looking forward
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to today thank you well tell us what's new with you and the podcasting world
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what do you got going on with Brian De Palma oh yeah the goat chugs along i took the fall off and we sort of did a a
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relaunch in at the beginning of the year and we continue to explore and celebrate
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the filmography of America's greatest director Brian Deama and as you listen
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to this I'm gonna be starting a series of solo episodes which should be pretty interesting because typically I'm not a
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solo podcaster so it will be a nice experiment so if you're into films at all or you're not familiar with Brian
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Deama give the show a listen every episode I let my guest pick a movie and then a scene from that movie to help
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illustrate why The Palma is as great as he is that's great i highly recommend
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and I'm looking forward to these solo ones yeah it should be neat it should be neat i'm gonna kind of focus on the
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movies that nobody wants to talk about i I have been there Craig i'm like well
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I I don't know if I want to ask somebody to do this so I'll just do it y Yeah yeah no it's good it's a nice sort of
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different way to uh my podcasting muscles so listeners if you're new to the show we cover 80s and 90s movies
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each season has the theme this season is John Hughes and we set the stage for the time that the movie was released by
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opening the time capsule from that time and there's a new spin pun intended this
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season so we're going to do that i'm going to spin this wheel and see what category we land on and see if we can
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trip up Craig or maybe he's an expert in 1983 we shall see
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okay all right can you see i can see the wheel our wheel of retroade yes okay
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let's see what we Let's see what we get here oh this is cool
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oh so close to Stars and Scandals pages of the Past we'll do a few which 1983
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children's magazine known for its vibrant illustrations and engaging stories was popular among young readers
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particularly in the UK I guess oh [ __ ] i was going to say here too i was going to
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say highlights good guess yeah but it's not it's not
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i think that came slightly later okay goodness i highlights is all I had
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loaded and ready to go well UK listeners tell me if you remember the Look and
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Learn magazine does that sound familiar to you at all Craig not at all right
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well maybe this one okay which 1983 children's fantasy novel by Rald Dah
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features a young boy and his Norwegian grandmother battling a society of
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witches who despise children oh is it called The Witches it is okay cuz they
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turned that into a movie right um Yeah okay with like Angela what's her name
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angelica Houston angelica Houston yeah i love it it's great yeah all right let's let's do another category
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canious about this one can Craig come out to play is our
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category what 1983 gadget which featured a small joystick controller and a
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cartridge system was an affordable alternative to larger video game
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consoles offering a portable gaming experience
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okay so this is this is interesting because I'm trying to remember when
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certain things came out i mean the obvious answer it now your question didn't say this is when it debuted right
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no not necessarily i think the obvious answer is the Atari 2600
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you are correct okay excellent all right i I'm shocked you even got the 2600 oh
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well I'm old because it says technically like according to my research it was the
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Atari 2600 or the Atari 7800 although released earlier continued
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to be popular in 1983 that's what it says yeah i I think I think you said
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affordable too right yeah so that's why I went with the 2600 if memory serves
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that was sort of like I think what really got Atari into a lot more homes
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was the fact that there was like an affordable version i think like maybe like the graphics or whatever i mean
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we're talking about 8bit or whatever but so it wasn't like crazy but but I think it just didn't have as much horsepower
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as that other model okay cool i'm glad I got that yeah i wasn't sure when the
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when the Nintendo NES system debuted 80 I think 83 was way too early for it yeah
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that's what I was thinking and then there was another system which I don't know if you you know KCO Vision was
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another like compet like Atari competitor and I
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don't know if there was some kind of legal issues around KCO Vision they may
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or may not and I didn't do my research here because I didn't know you were going to ask me this but they may or may
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not have been like using games they didn't have the rights to use got it something like that but either way KCO
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Vision like if you look at probably like hardcore gaming circles that probably are people that collect the KCO Vision
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and and the And then there was another one called I think Intelvision there were a bunch of I've never even heard of
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these wow okay wow that's cool well you you seem strong in this category let me
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see which popular toy from 1983 often associated with a small
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plastic soldier an adventure theme uh leading to a series of action figures
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comic books and even a TV series oh that's G.I joe what's the tagline real
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American Hero yeah no I mean that was You have no idea for a
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9-year-old kid in 1983 what a big deal
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G.I joe was we bought the comics we had the figures um and you could really see
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which figures were most popular because the joints would loosen so you'd pick
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them up and like their arms and legs would just flop oh yeah and be like every kid every kid's like Storm Shadow
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and Snake Eyes would be just like worn to heck and then of course the you know
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the the the animated show which was just like a a juggernaut yeah no I mean that
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was that was an amazing amazing time to be a nine-year-old
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yeah i guess I I'm a household of all girls so we had zero GI Joes in our home
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but cousins i'm I'm vaguely familiar with the GI Joe yeah mhm let's do
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another category
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commercial countdown is our category some of them are so easy
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we'll do a couple maybe which beverage company's 1983 commercial featured the tagline just for the taste of it
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promoting their new sugar-free soda oh that's that's Diet Coke right mhm okay
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all right that's it's Diet Coke yep that's wild that they introduced Diet Coke in
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1983 and then that's not too far removed from like New Coke
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new Coke was later in the 80s you're right but that was also sugarbased but it's it's surprising to me that that I
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you know I don't really remember the introduction of Diet Coke like for me I always remember Diet Coke being an
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option but we also didn't drink soda a lot when I was a kid that was one of those things where there wasn't soda in
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the house like there you know so if you if and when you did drink it it was a special occasion and then also obviously
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you're not going to be ordering a Diet Coke oh I did i So it's funny i Diet
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Coke is my jam i don't buy soda currently i was literally like I think addicted to it so if it's here I will
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drink it but there are certain things certain times when a fountain especially
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fountain sounds good oh yeah no no 100% there is no comparison between a canned
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or a bottled soda and and the fountain variety like peak fountain soda was like
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prime McDonald's Coke on tap yeah no absolutely no and as
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a soda drinker like when we drink soda now like we either have Pepsi Zero or
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Coke Zero in the house I was never really a big fan of the mix of sugar when you're eating a hamburger or
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anything like that but either way yeah no it's just surprising because I guess that makes sense because what in 85 and
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Back to the Future like Marty orders the Pepsi what Pepsi free i don't remember
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yeah so I guess that was the start of the whole diet soda trend like where like people were like "Wait there's a
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ton of sugar in stuff we're drinking." I prefer the taste of it and yeah when I
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was a ' 83 I probably was not drinking Diet Coke i was like a toddler but they didn't put it in your bottle
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but when when I was very young I don't remember having soda in the house either and it was a treat and honestly I think
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it was Shasta brand oh okay but then when I was like in the ' 90s we had a
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fridge downstairs for soda and beer and after school every day I would go get a
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Coke i pour it in a glass and use a straw also cuz I needed I needed I
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needed the Diet Coke and then I I tell this story to people and they look at me funny but there is something to the way
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that places mix the syrup there's something to McDonald's why it supposedly tastes better it has
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something to do with the diameter of the straw and they're they're they over it's
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a stronger syrup because it is meant to for the ice accommodate for the ice
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melting i I kind of feel like I watched like a 10-minute YouTube video on
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McDonald's fountain soda at at some point in the last couple years um Yeah
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wild wild and it's funny like they have these freestyle machines now oh yeah yeah which are cool but the trick to
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those freestyle machines if you ever find yourself in front of one run a cycle of water through it prior to
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making your selection because what's going to happen is if the person before you did like lemon lime or something
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that the remnants of that are still going to be in the pipeline of course give it a blast of water before you
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start your selection and then the freestyle machine won't taste as weird as it some does mhm it's a good call
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good call i also vague memory from childhood we would go to Kansas City
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which was probably like 3 hours from where we lived and so we would go to like a a Royals game and I would order a
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Diet Coke at the game and it tasted better there i think there's something
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in the water in Kansas City because also Worlds and Oceans of Fun i just remember
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their Diet Coke tasting significantly better than anywhere else and I don't know if it's like more chlorinated water
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or something but if anybody lives in Kansas City please let me know all right let's maybe do one more Craig
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and then we'll get into the movie this is cool this is fun oh we already did that one come on oh yeah we did yeah
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there's 12 categories so I don't know i don't know what are the odds oh my god same what come on
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now if it goes to commercials right was that commercials was the last one mhm
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oh my goodness okay that's the third time that we've come on can Craig come out to play can we get another category
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these are always fun oh okay vhs vault is the category craig do you have any
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before I give you any hints do you have any inclinations for what the top five
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rentals movie rentals in 1983 were i'm going to say in that top five you have
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to have Rock 3
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i would have guessed that too it's not okay wow you know what the the wild thing is it's probably because it took a
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little longer for it to come like at that time it would take because that probably came out in the end of 82 yeah
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well the thing is there's a Rocky 3 poster in Mr mom uhhuh okay goodness i'm
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trying to think of movies like from 198 like ET maybe but ET was probably still
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in theaters well it was 81 wasn't it yeah but no no
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joke we had a I might have told this story last season we had a theater in the town I lived in before uh so
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downtown we had a dual screen theater it was like you know go to the left for for
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one movie go to the right for the other and there was a 14-month run where ET
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had like theater one locked down and they would just switch out like what was in theater 2 mhm that's wild yeah so ET
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had oh a long run whoa it has to be a Star Wars movie right these are these
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Honestly I'm kind of surprised so I'll get I'll start with the hints the first one I think you'll get which 1982 action
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comedy film features a tough cop teaming up with a wisecracking convict to catch
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a pair of cop killers oh 48 hours yeah that became the top video rental that
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was the number one you know what's funny about that i I had that movie in the back of my
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head because when VHS came out it was a rental market they like they were not
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you were not supposed to buy them so I remember one of my brother's friends his mom bought him VHS movies
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and like she had spent like $59 or whatever on the VHS of of 48 hours and
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it blew our mind that we were like "Wait a minute you own this you're not renting it." And also the prices were just crazy
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i think it was like I don't think it was until like Disney and like probably like around like Jurassic Park when like
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movies actually became affordable enough to purchase i remember we had some but a the vast
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majority of our VHS collection was movies taped from TV of which Mr mom was
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one yeah yeah okay so the next one the this 1981 teen comedy notorious for its
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runchy humor and set in a 1950s
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mhm yep who you know who directed Porky's who bob Clark who also did A
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Christmas Story you're kidding yeah it's It's always funny to me that well aside from the fact that he did Black
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Christmas which is like one of the first wet slasher films he also did Christmas Story but then he also did this like
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Porky's which I think probably unfairly gets lumped into all the sequels that
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became like you know more and more runchy but yeah that's like always my little like sort of dinner dinner dinner
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party trivia is like hey do you know the guy that directed Christmas Story directed keys
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well the guy who directed First Blood also directed uh Weekend at Barney yeah
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it's wild it's wild yeah okay i think you'll get this one too which 1982
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science fiction film directed by Ridley Scott featuring a dystopian future and a
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replicate hunting protagonist gained a cult following popular video rental in
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1983 oh yeah that's Bladeunner yeah okay yeah 1982 was famously probably like the best
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summer for sci-fi you had Bladeunner ET ET was still in theaters and you had John Carpent is The Thing that's right
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it's funny that Blade Runner is on that list because I've always thought that like
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Bladeunner was not held in any kind of regard until it was reassessed in the '9s so that's
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kind of interesting to see that it bombed in theaters but people were renting it on VHS that's cool um it's
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also interesting i'm a Bladeunner guy like um it But it's also interesting
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that people that were buying and renting that tape uh were seeing the theatrical version of
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the movie which was hard to find for a very long time after that like if you tried to find a theatrical cut in the
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90s you were gonna have a really really hard time really yeah so the original
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theatrical cut has this really sort of divisive voice over and there's theories
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that like Harrison Ford was against it so he like purposely like tanked the
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recording session uh and there's people that love the voice over and there's other people that absolutely hate it now
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every version of the movie is available on home video so it's just a matter of which flavor you feel like watching i
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I'm kind of embarrassed but I have never seen Bladeunner oh wow i Well it's worth
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watching and there's Ridley Scott's final cut quote unquote okay that's if
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and when you're going to watch it just watch that version okay it's a great movie it's definitely worth watching
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it's Ruter Hower like one of the best Yeah performances i've heard I've heard good things and I have heard that it
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really the cult status portion of it is kind of what I've heard sim similar with the thing I guess I have seen the thing
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I covered it on my Kurt Russell season but okay there's two more this one this
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one I adore this movie so much I got to find a way to insert it in a season
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which 1982 musical film based on a Broadway play about an optimistic orphan
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during the great depression oh it's it's Annie Mhm m yeah I remember seeing Annie in theaters and it's it's
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funny my my dad's parents my grandparents on my dad's side they lived in Queens when I was a kid and we used
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to go to the movies with them and we'd go to the movies in Manhattan oo cool so this was like the theaters that had
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2,000 seats mhm like I mean like thinking about movie theaters now like you're lucky if you have 75 seats these
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were like theaters from like the what the 1920s or whatever so we saw Annie in the 2000 seat theater but we were right
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in the front because it was probably sold out so I have vivid memories of watching Annie like where you're looking
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up and the screen is 40 feet tall or whatever wild wild yeah yeah that would
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be so cool to watch a movie in a theater like that not I don't think I'd be I would want to be in the front row but
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Yeah yeah no it's wild yeah i I think if you ever have the chance to go to like Hollywood like the Chinese theater my
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man's Chinese Theater is a similar experience they're like theater's just different back then mhm but although the
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the seats are so much better now yeah i don't go very often for it to matter but I'm envisioning you you talking about
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this what I'm envisioning in my head is the scene of them in Annie going to a
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movie okay new York okay the last one number five rental for 83 it is a 1982
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horror anthology film inspired by the works of Stephen King and directed by George A romero
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creep Show never seen it oh my goodness i never would have guessed that yeah oh
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Creep Show it's Oh my goodness yeah it's it's it's awesome there is a great
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segment in Creep Show with Ted Dansen and Leslie Nielsen and it's funny
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because you're so used to Leslie Nielson being like you know the wacky Frank Evan
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from Naked Gun or the P you know the Airplane um but yeah oh Creep Show is so
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great there's another one with Adrien Barau oh it's it's it's phen it's such a fun It's like it's campy horror which is
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like some of like the best horror oh my goodness yeah creep Show that's That's great i can totally understand why
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that's was one of the top rentals all right you guys that was the time
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capsule that was a lot of fun yeah good now before we get into Mr mom because my
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season is all about John Hughes uh I was curious if you had anything to share you
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know were you a kid when you realized that he was a master behind a lot of these movies or did it take you a while
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or what's your history well absolutely i think I probably saw Vacation first mhm
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but I think most people that lived it probably 16 Candles or The Breakfast
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Club are sort of their John Q's center of the universe and then as you like you
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kind of spring off from there it's then like oh you make you connect the dots to weird science or you connect the the
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dots back to vacation yeah no I mean John Hughes he was definitely a a
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name you were aware of and you were kind of aware also of like what kind of movie you could expect mhm cool yeah and why
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did you choose Mr mom just because it it's so funny when I
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went back to watch this last night I hadn't watched it in probably 20 plus
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years and it's amazing how I remembered every single beat so I mean it's just a
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movie we watched a lot it was probably on cable a lot when I was was a kid and
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I was just like well you know what i haven't seen Mr mom in a long time but it's a like I said it's a movie I knew I
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basically knew by heart so I was like oh that that'll be a fun one to talk about and it's also funny too because there's
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people like that you know Michael Keaton is such an interesting actor because
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like for for a lot of people that know him from from Batman it's it like blows
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their mind when they go back and see all of the pre-Batman stuff that he did and and it's interesting
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because for me like Michael Keaton was the perfect
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Bruce Wayne for me i thought he looked the part and he acted the part and I
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think one thing that a lot of superhero movies after Batman sort of fell into was like getting
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the exact actor you'd expect for the film and sometimes it would be like a
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lot of times you're not getting the person with the acting chops for it you're getting somebody who's more like maybe physical or and nowadays it's like
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Chris Evans can just go to the gym for 12 weeks and get in like Captain America shape but like back then um you weren't
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like they would just build all his muscles into the suit and that was it but yeah no so it was kind of the idea
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to be able to also talk about you know Michael Keaton before before Batman but
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also now isn't Michael Keaton going by his his birth name which is what I
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Michael Douglas what no way
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i did not know that why would any Why that there's a very famous Michael Douglas exactly so he changed his name I
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guess when he started you know acting his agents like well obviously you can't
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use your real name and I guess now he's at a point in his life where he's like "You know what i want my I want my name back." I kind of feel like I read about
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it in the last couple months like that i can't believe Well this you heard it
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here first you guys on Retro Made i did not know that but I I was wowed by I was
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like "Wow he looks so young." Mhm well this was first lead role i think you're
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right he had done what like night was it night shift night something but he wasn't the top
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build on yeah that was like a Yeah that was like a duel mhm him and Henry Winkler I think i haven't seen it yeah I
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think they run I want to say they run like a prostitution oh really yeah it's Ron Howard yeah I I
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haven't seen that movie in a long time but I did read that this was like Michael Keaton's like first like lead
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like him carrying a movie yeah and it worked speaking of which let's get
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into Mr mom
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it was released August 19th 1983 and then I thought this was really
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interesting the last episode that we did was The Great Outdoors the rating the runtime and the
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IMDb rating are all exactly the same episode that's amazing pg exactly 1
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hour and 31 minutes and a 6.6 6 IMDb yeah well I got to speaking of that 1
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hour 31 minute 91 minute running time that is the ideal comedy running time
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mhm you'll never change my opinion on that um as much as I love a lot of
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comedies from the you know the Jud Appattow era they're all bloated you
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know when a when a comedy gets to the twohour mark you really have to be delivering the laughs for me the sweet
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spot for comedy 91 minutes all day somebody must have felt that because
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it's it's amazing to me that like Great Outdoors and Mr mom are both 91 minute long 91 minutes long it's funny it seems
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both of them kind of seem longer than that for some reason but yeah a lot You're right the ones that really that
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is kind of the some of the secret sauce is an hour and a half yeah yeah well what what's wild too is like how much
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story you can fit into that runtime but then also as you get to the end of the movie especially with Mr mom I was
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waiting for a particular scene and I'm like wait the movie's almost over and I'm like there's six minutes left and like the the moment I'm thinking of
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hasn't happened yet and then I'm like yeah well cuz credits were like were like 45 seconds back was like the movie
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would end and your credits would be like less than a minute and you're done whereas now like you see if there's 16
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minutes left you're like "Oh nine minutes of that is credits." That's a very good point so the director here I
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thought was interesting san Dragoi are you familiar no not at all and it's
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funny when when that credit came up on the screen I was like you know what until just now I've never thought about
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who directed that movie it just wasn't some as a kid you don't think about that kind of stuff unless it's like John
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Hughes or or Stephen Spielberg or something but I was like if you had held a gun to my head prior to sitting down
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to watch this movie last night and asked me who directed Mr mom I I wouldn't be here for the recording and he he doesn't
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have a big filmography either no he doesn't he he also directed the 1989
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movie She's Out of Control you know which is similar enough but he began his career as a director of TV commercials
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so he is responsible for the I Love New York campaign oh wow that's that's who
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Stan is that's amazing that that is amazing and I also wonder if um and
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you'll probably get into this though like this originally started out as like an Aaron Spelling produced TV project so
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I wonder if that's kind of how he got looped in i don't know enough about the development but I know that it was
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originally developed as like a a movie of the week maybe yes a TV spin-off did come out a year
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later and it's amazing yeah all different people like it's just nobody
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is the same from it i didn't know until last night when I like started googling
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and stuff that there was in 2019 there was like another Mr mom TV show with the
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it was the premise of it was daughter from the first movie was all grown up
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and and she has to join the workforce and her hus it was on MG whatever MGM's streaming service was called back
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in 2019 I had no memory of it was anybody in it that we would know I no I
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I don't remember any names jumping out but but you're right so according to
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producer and financeier Bruce McN All Aaron Spelling intended this to be a backdoor pilot for prospective broadcast
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TV series at some later point and apparently this was pretty common for
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networks to create a series based on a movie thereby maximizing their revenue streams from the same IP right so and
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there was a TV spin-off but I don't it was not successful at all the the movie was that we Well that was the other
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thing Katie is the It cost what like $5 million to make and it grossed like over
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$64 million which I almost Yeah almost $65 million yeah so I don't even know what the adjustment for inflation
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inflation but that's probably you know half a billion dollars or something in 2025 numbers or dollars that's amazing
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so this was like this was a smash smash hit so it it makes sense that they would
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have made a tried to make out of it true that is true you were curious about the
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director if that came from this like TV world it it wasn't I guess so Stan ended up
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directing the film after John Hughes turned it down so they originally wanted John Hughes to direct it cuz he wrote it
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which we'll talk about but since this was a Hollywood movie you know it was
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set in Detroit and I did note that immediately I was like "Oh it's not in Chicago." Yeah therefore it was filmed
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in Hollywood and John Hughes does movies only in Chicago he likes to film in Chicago and not in Hollywood and then
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guess who was originally after that happened before they landed on Stan guess who they asked after John
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Hughes turned it down to direct hm i want to say maybe like a John
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Landis or somebody ted Kchev oh my goodness we we were just
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talking about him earlier with First Blood so he was known as the comedy guy before he made like one of the greatest
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action dramas of all time and he and then later cuz that was in what ' 82 and
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then Weekend at Bernie was what is that late ' 80s or ' 86 maybe ' 86 87
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interesting so anyway that's amazing how everything sort of ties together i was also curious after watching this
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there was so much seeming licensing requirements in
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this movie but it was made for $5 million yeah but they had the Rocky going to Fly theme they had the Jaws
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theme there was another big one what am I missing there was another big movie theme like
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music-wise in this yeah yeah it's it's that is a very interesting point but I
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also think that licensing hadn't gotten as as big back then and and I don't
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recall but there was a period a very dark period uh in the early days of DVD
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where movies and TV shows would be put out and they'd replace all that stuff because the
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licensing wasn't captured for a format that didn't exist yet um I remember as a
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big Miami Vice fan Miami Vice took a long time to come out on DVD and I was
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always worried i'm like "Oh my god the when it comes out on DVD they're going to have all the music taken off." And
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then I think there was like some like Universal ended up owning like
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everything you know around that time so when when Miami Vice came out I remember they were like all music included i was
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like "Oh my god." But then you also have shows in Cincinnati which has a lot of stock generic music so I wonder if there
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was a period where like Mr mom if you got an early DVD of it like the Rocky
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music isn't there oh that's a good point i wonder but I I Oh the other thing I
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was trying to think of Young and the Restless oh my goodness yeah like a huge component of this so So Young and the
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Restless the Rocky music and the Jaws music all right you guys so yeah I said that John Hughes obviously he he's the
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writer here this is the second feature film written by him you know what the first one was
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it wasn't Vacation i think it was Vacation okay yeah the same year i want to say they both were 8 it feels Yeah
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like maybe 82 or 83 for Vacation mhm yeah so I would highly recommend you
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guys give Mr mom a rewatch and then come back and listen to us because it is available for free in a ton of places
35:49
when I looked at my options to watch this I knew it was on YouTube and I was like "Oh I can watch a commercial free."
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But yeah I think it was on Roku it was on Tuby all Yeah so this is not a hard movie to a hard movie to find but yeah
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you're right i did have to put up with the commercials you guys just I mean it's a 1983 movie so if you don't recall
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if it's been a minute we have Jack Butler who's Michael Kaitton is laid off and his wife Caroline played by Terry
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Gar lands a job forcing him to take on the chaotic world of stay-at-home parenting from grocery store mishaps to
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taming a rebellious vacuum jack's journey from clueless to competent dad
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is filled with laughs and heart yeah well you know what's funny about that i I didn't realize it until watching it
36:37
again that he's furled i was gonna ask you about that yeah because like furlow like I like
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furlowing wasn't really something I thought about i know every time the government shuts down they furlow
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employees but I experienced the furlow situation during COVID i was furled for
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15 months so like that hit me like as soon as they they talked about him being
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furled was like I understand this completely whereas when I was a kid I just assumed he had lost his job but it
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was like oh he's furoughed you know so there's the potential to come back they do kind of interchangeably use laid off
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fired furoughed they kind you know depending on the situation of the scene but I was curious because you know when
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they're in Jeffrey Tambour's office and they find out that they essentially are losing their job
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and he points out no technically you're being furoughed but he said you you'll still you get a
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severance and I didn't I didn't What's the story did you Did you Yeah you know what that Yeah that doesn't track
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because Yeah you're you wouldn't be getting a a seance so that's what I was I was like oh I
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thought that was if you got laid off but yeah that for me that scene in the office is one of the funnier scenes in
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the movie and it probably wasn't as funny when I was a kid but as an adult um but you got Christopher Lloyd in
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Little Baby Part i guess he was trying to make the breakthrough between Taxi on TV and like the movies but his reaction
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like Jack walks in the office and he's like strangling Jeffrey Tambour and then he threatens to like jump out of the the
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window like for me that was that was funny and then you see Jack's reaction where he's like he calms him down and
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then he finds out he's he's laid off as well and he almost has the same exact reaction and Jeffrey Tambour yeah they
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drove they carpulooled two work together like from the sub and they tell us they
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kicked in on gas money and all that and Jeffrey Tambour just plays such a slimy
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[ __ ] in this movie i absolutely loved it and that was my frame of reference for
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Jeff for Jeffrey Tambour like forever like when Arrested Development came out I'm like "Oh it's Jeffrey Tambour from
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Mr mom." or like when Larry Sanders came out it's oh it's it's Jeffrey Tambour from from Mr mom so yeah it's just
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amazing to see like Christopher Lloyd though you know three you know what two years before he was going to become like
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a mega movie star with as Doc Brown it's it's a little baby role like he's what
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in the beginning scene and does he doesn't even come back for the end his character's mentioned but he actually
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doesn't that's true yeah it's just at the beginning he and the other guy so he's one of the So they're all they work
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car company yeah engineers and they carpool to work together and I I knew he was in this i had
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forgotten that Jeffrey Tambbor was in it so I was like "Oh sweet i He's great." And then I was like "Christopher Lloyd
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they look Well Jeffrey Tambbor always looks like Jeffrey Tambbor." Yeah but Christopher Lloyd looked like he still has dark hair yeah and he's got the
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glasses yeah yeah yeah so those guys are in it obviously michael Keaton is our lead role here it's his first starring
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role he plays Jack Butler and his wife is Carolyn Butler played by Terry Gar
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what do you What do you do you have i love Terry Gar and you know I can't pinpoint like an exact Terry Gar movie
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but yeah yeah no Terry Gar is just just a such a great screen presence and I
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actually just discovered in the past year an awesome movie that she did that
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I guess is kind of a cult classic now but Francis Ford Copala made a movie
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after The Godfather after Apocalypse Now i think after the outsiders maybe not
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after the outsiders but it's called One from the Heart which is an experimental musical set in Las Vegas just a
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phenomenal movie terry Gar is so good in it yeah if you ever have your have the
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the option to watch One from the Heart absolutely francis Ford Copala terry Gar I'm in yeah yeah it's Well and the thing
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about it is Francis Ford Copala was like such an amazing experimental filmmaker
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so the the I think the big thing about One from the Heart is like it was filmed
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completely on a sound stage like he had bought the studio that he re renamed
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Zoatripe or whatever so like you've got they recreated Fremont Street in Las Vegas on a sound stage oh my god
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visually amazing movie the technical like the technical stuff that
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goes on in that movie alone makes it worth watching but yeah I just I I had no idea this movie existed until eight
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months ago or whatever and I was like "Oh my god this and and it was Terry Gar so it it brought her back into my sort
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of awareness right you know right before she died you know." So yeah I love Terry
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Gar she's just such a she's just such a genuine presence on screen she was really good i mean it's funny she didn't
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cuz like you said Oh nothing really is coming to mind yeah but you know her she
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did she didn't win but she was nominated for an Oscar for her role in Tootsie
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with who was that dustin Hoffman dustin Hoffman and Jessica Lang yeah mhm yeah yeah and then she's also very much known
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for her role in the 1974 movie Young Frankenstein oh yeah mhm yeah yeah and I
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know her when like when she was a little older she played Phoe's birth mom oh
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friend okay yeah so that's Terry Gar she's fun i like her and then Martin Mole who I also adore
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plays I don't know this seems kind of out of I mean he's skezy which is a character for him but he plays Ron
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Richardson who's the head of the ad agency where Carolyn ends up working
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yeah um and that's another whole great sequence in the movie where they I guess
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they have an annual like barbecue party at his house corporate Olympics is what
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it was called at his house and everybody like everybody on the team knowingly
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throws the event so he can win and of course Jack's not on on board with that
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until the very last minute when he he sort of throws throws the Olympics and
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you know like he winks to his wife i I thought that that was really and as a kid that whole sequence was was great to
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watch the other guys try and sabotage him i like they they trip him up because they know that like if he wins it'll be
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bad for everyone you have to let the boss win yeah yeah yeah i know that was
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really interesting because this movie did a good job um portraying Jack
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he was easily swayed by or manipulated by somebody testing his masculinity so
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to speak in in a lot of ways so he's they they go to this thing they're not going to stay long and he says he's not
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going to play or he's not going to participate in this Olympics race but
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then Martin Mole's characters you know he he easily manipulates him by saying something like "Oh well go you know go
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go hang out with the other wives or something." And then he's like "All right give me my sweats i'm I'm in." But
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then he does end up doing the thing the supportive thing for his wife by falling
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down and throwing it and kind of winking at her and and then later you know he goes to the strip club with with some of
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the ladies and he's very you know he he just kind of goes he's a really good sport it's a male strip club mind you
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and he's the only man there and he I just thought he did such a good job good job of being it was very progressive for
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1983 how he was acting at a male strip club so then that gives him another
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point in the you know sincere genuine not your typical ' 80s like masculine
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ear you know but then he's oh I'll be at the gym or the gun club you know so he goes back and forth like a real person
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would yeah you know what that's really interesting because I didn't think about it until you just pointed it out but
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yeah there's nothing they're not punching down in that strip
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club scene like they didn't go for any kind of obvious obvious jokes or anything like that like he gives this he
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gives the guy the dollar bill and asks where he puts it and then says "Oh no don't tell me." But I mean yeah there
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wasn't any kind of like panic around the jokes or anything like that like yeah um
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that's really interesting the other thing I wanted to say that was kind of amazing is this is like sort of the
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start of the the the robot robotic vacuum the Roomba did Jack invent the
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Roomba oh that it was like a rogue vacuum cleaner good point yeah it was
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like it had a mind of its own yeah but then at the end he's got it on some kind of control right oh I must have missed
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that yeah or like he when he tells it to go to the room to clean up and that's where the Jaws bit comes in like the
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it's funny what the the one little boy is making chili which is hilarious in itself this is I
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guess the scene where like everything goes to goes to mass chaos yeah yeah but it's funny he asked where the vacuum is
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and he's like "Oh you mean Jaws?" And then you know like the vacuum gets its own like sort of establishing shot with
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the the John Williams score and everything and then what there's like what the the TV repair person's there
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the bug guys there and then I think there's like the washing machine goes haywire there were three service people
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there at the same time the vacuum like eat the the younger son's wubby his
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blankie and then it all kind of comes crashing down with the the baby coming in and she's eating chili yeah and then
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the the TV repair lady's like "You gave a baby chili." Yeah oh the Oh and the
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washing machine yeah because he just loads up the washing machine he's like "Oh let's skip all these steps." And he just puts everything in there uh Yeah
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it's It's funny like there's two chaotic scenes in the movie there's that sequence and then also when he goes food
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shopping which is just like a disaster which is funny there's the whole sequence where like he bumps the lady
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and she's like I've got the right of way and he's at the deli counter trying to order ham and she's like she rattles off
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like six different kinds of ham it was just funny and and it was interesting to see that you know there's still people
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that would probably happen to even today you know there are people of a certain
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age i've noticed this when an older man when his wife passes away doesn't
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know how to do anything he marries immediately he finds someone and marries
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her because he need he literally does not know how to take care of himself
47:28
yeah yeah another thing I wanted to hit on and I don't know if you have this in your notes but uh I was surprised at the
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amount of well Rocky overall the fact that they talk about as much as they do
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but there's the sequence there's the sequence where he's talking to his guys
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on the line before he's f furoughed mhm and he says "Me and my wife went to go see a Rocky movie." And he's obviously
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just talking cuz he wants to you know sort of talk about this inspirational
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yeah and they're like "Well which Rocky was it?" And two or three who did he
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fight did he have a mohawk uh was his manager dead or alive he Rocky yeah and
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then of course they pay it off later when he sort of gets back into shape and they do the whole training sequence but
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I thought it was interesting because they were referencing a pop culture moment in a movie which isn't something
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that was happening a lot at that time that's a really good point and there was
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a lot of Rocky like you said there was a poster like they used the music there was so much talk about it and I wonder
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you know Rocky 3 had just come out the year prior it that was probably I mean I
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don't I wasn't alive for it but a trilogy maybe was rare at that time and
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it was like becoming this cultural phenomenon that they started talking about it in movies yeah yeah no
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absolutely i I just I just I thought it was interesting because now it's so common for pop culture to be referenced
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within movies but like for me that jumped out i was like "Wow that seems like very
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very untraditional for for that time period." Indeed indeed all right then we also
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have the neighbor Joan she's like the vixen divorce very attractive neighbor that of
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course is trying to seduce Jack she her name in the movie is Joan Angel uh
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Angelen i don't know who I didn't know who that was yeah an Angelian was kind of I knew I knew Angelian she was on a
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show called It's a Living mhm um which was like about cocktail waitresses in
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hotel okay and I don't really know if she ever
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really I I think she might have just become more of a a TV person and I think
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she was married to somebody um I want to say Gerald Mcrainy
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maybe like the guy from Major Dad i could be completely wrong here but like
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she married somebody f like somebody equally as famous and then I also think I probably remember her too like I
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believe she battled breast cancer and I think that kind of gave her like more
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awareness in people's minds but she was great in this movie there's the one sequence where like the one uh the one
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neighbor says to her she's like "He's married." And she's like "We both were as well so were we."
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Yeah yeah yeah she she was good too and then we already talked about Jeffrey Tambour and Christopher Lloyd now the
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kids again I I don't know i I thought the kids did a really good
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job particularly the oldest son who who we will recognize he's Alex is the is
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the older son and he's played by Frederick Kohler yeah and he was on Kate Alley right chip he played Chip on Katie
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and did you watch the HBO show Oz
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he was Andrew Schillinger or Schillinger but it's been so long since I've seen
51:10
that who which character is that do you remember no I don't wow but that's a main like a pretty main character so
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yeah that's who Frederick Kler is talison Yafy or Joffy plays Kenny that's
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quite a name yeah no his his parents his dad was Roland Joffy I want to say oh I
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was gonna I wonder okay so that's like a a Hollywood family like I think Joffy I
51:37
want I want to say did he produce the like the early Woody Allen films maybe
51:42
but we talked about him on season one because he directed uh Patrick sees movie where he goes to India oh okay
51:50
city of Joy okay yeah so that kid he's I an early Nepo baby I guess mhm but he
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was good as well the great scene I've always remembered is when Michael Keaton is trying to get convince him to finally
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cut the cord with his security blanket and they do like a trial separation I
52:10
guess where he's not going to get rid of the blanket but he's just going to hold on to it and then the kid like he says
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very calmly can I have a moment to myself please and that that scene like
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always cracked me up as a kid it still cracked me up as an adult like it just seemed like such a you know he was like
52:29
maintaining his he his his emotions like he was he was staying calm but you could
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see like under the surface he he needed a minute to to deal
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yeah the wubby was a big part of this a big part of this movie the little the
52:45
little baby daughter Megan is played by twins seen Yeah courtney and Britney White were you familiar with the music
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guy Lee Holdridge not by name no I wasn't either but when I looked you will
52:59
be he's a Haitianb born American composer conductor and orchestra 18 time
53:04
Emmy award nominee yada yada yada so he's he's got some skills but he also
53:10
composed music for Beastmaster oh wow which was like on
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TV like on loop in the 80s yeah yeah as well as Splash which is one of my
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favorite movies i loved Splash so much yeah did I read that Ron Howard was
53:28
offered this movie but he did Splash instead might be a fact i was like they didn't but they did Splash instead so
53:35
the guy that did music for Splash okay mhm i you know not being familiar with
53:40
Lee Holdridge I recognized several points in this movie where the music really was
53:46
helpful and effective also the use of all of the you know each moment has its like there was like the Olympics what's
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that song that is used oh yeah like it was like Yeah slow-mo like the race
54:00
it almost felt like Chariots of Fireish yes like it was a rip on Chariots of Fire I think yeah and then just to evoke
54:08
certain emotion this movie made me feel it was the combination of all of that the the music
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the the way that the house looked all of the 80s memorabilia that I noticed like
54:22
the color of the appliances they had a trash compactor
54:28
the wood grain station wagon those tiny TVs in a in a kitchen or the port it was
54:35
like a portable little TV that he had too that he was moving around soap opera culture mhm like just the very familiar
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formulaic nature of it yeah but it wasn't boring there was also the
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standard babysitter that comes and is so clearly unfit because of Yeah she's like this punk rock girl yeah she's just
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there to get some money just the there's so much of it and I I think it took me a
55:00
minute to think about why but I think it was that combination of those things from the '8s that are familiar and the
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music i felt so at home and I got this comfy homey cozy feeling re-watching
55:12
this yeah well and the other funny thing about it too is there's no I mean even though they they sort of set up the the
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marital rift where you know you have Joan and then you have the Martin Mole character you know that are both trying
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to infringe on them but it never got too too heavy like you never you never
55:33
truly like worried you know what I mean it's just like the overall vibe of the
55:38
movie is just it's it's not going to go that route you know like it's not going to get that dark so yeah no I definitely
55:45
understand what you're saying in terms of like the you know it it almost wraps you in your own little wubby it Good
55:53
call good call well to your point apparently there there was a scene in
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the original script or a script at some point where Joan when she is kissing in
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the Well that's a whole another in the scene the soap opera flashback yeah or imaginary scene that is like a soap
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opera yeah she has a neglige on but I guess originally it had called for her to be topless and she was likem not for
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this kind of a movie yeah yeah no she definitely she definitely knew the
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script better than some of the other people involved yeah that would have been so out of place and random even
56:32
though it was a like an imagination sequence but Yeah that was I had
56:38
forgotten that that kind of a thing was done I I kind of forgot about that whole
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sequence yeah yeah no yeah it it's really cool because there's the point
56:49
where you realize oh this is like in his head uh because it's the Young and Restless music that he's watching it's
56:56
very cleverly done yeah yeah it's funny when you're clued in yeah no that that that was that was a fun sequence
57:04
i think we talked about every scene of the movie i know i know this was just
57:09
my my own question because I feel like in TV shows and in movies there's always
57:16
a reference to why is there a limo here who died oh and I never really got it i grew up in
57:22
the Midwest we didn't get a limo for a funeral was that a is that a thing elsewhere no not that could recall h you
57:31
guys let us know what's the story with limos and funerals why is that a trope in movies i don't know i do work in
57:38
marketing and I always grew up thinking ad agency culture was cool and it's because literally every movie in the 80s
57:45
is set around an ad agency or an ad exec or something yeah you know what i wanted
57:50
to talk to you about this because I guess like the big breakthrough for her is like I guess the the tuna company
57:57
Schooner Tuna's like sales are down or whatever and she comes up with this promotion to reduce the price of a can
58:04
of tuna by 50 cents until I guess troubled times are passed but
58:09
like 50 cents per can seemed like a lot because I think like when I go to buy tuna now like sometimes I can get 10
58:16
cans for for $10 so I wondered that too i was like "Wow how much was Yeah I'm
58:22
like "How much was a can of tuna in 1983?" Like she did say it was one of the more expensive it must have been
58:28
like one of the higherend cans of tuna i do not know how much a can of tuna costs but I thought the same thing like a
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single if you weren't buying in bulk in 1983 50 cents was a big discount that's
58:40
what I mean like I think if like I went to the store today to buy tuna it would be like $159 a can or something so 40
58:47
years ago you'd think that it wouldn't be $159 a can that 50 cents just seemed
58:52
like wild to me but it's also funny too because it could also clue us into like
58:59
how out of touch Hollywood is you know you know you know like it's like nobody
59:06
even researched what a can of tuna was they're like "Oh you know 50 cents off a can would be a big deal." Whereas like
59:13
in 2025 that definitely rang a bell with me i was like "Wait a minute." Unless it was that fancy tuna I had no idea no I'm
59:20
you know Jewish guy from the Northeast so like a tuna melt with like colelaw onion rings and a pickle that's that's
59:26
my go-to that's probably my death row meal oh not in a million years i also
59:32
liked the trope of housewives being like letting themselves go and him also like
59:39
grows a beard and he gains some weight and he never changes his flannel flannel
59:44
yeah yeah and there's also that funny scene where he like sort of drags them into his world a little bit where like
59:50
he gets like instead of bridge they play poker and they're using coupons instead of money yes which I thought was so
59:56
funny he's like "Yeah I'll see you and raise you two tender biddles you know or whatever."
1:00:03
Do people use coupons now is that a thing that people do well I know for me
1:00:08
I have an app for like Smiths like you know you can clip digital deals or
1:00:13
whatever i Yeah same with Sprouts yeah okay but yeah the whole idea of clipping
1:00:19
coupons and stuff probably isn't as like prevalent today like people that didn't
1:00:24
live through it would probably be like what are they doing i worked at a grocery store that on certain days was
1:00:30
triple coupon yeah and but we didn't this was in the '9s and it was kind of
1:00:36
an old school grocery store i had to type it in oh yeah and people like we couldn't just scan the code so I had
1:00:42
people would come with this stack and it would take I'm like 10 king but people would save like
1:00:48
$200 off their bill like if they huge cart wow so you you have sprouts out
1:00:54
there huh uhhuh yeah yeah we have them here in Las Vegas and it Sprouts was a new thing for me when I moved here oh
1:01:00
yeah same cuz I Yeah we don't Nebraska does not have them i did want to also
1:01:06
share I had forgotten about this until I saw the laundry scene it's like a It was
1:01:12
Was it brown or green but it was one of those Yeah late '7s colors it might have been like that avocado green i think it
1:01:18
was brown though yeah well so he shoves as much as he possibly can in the
1:01:23
machine and he thinks he's being smart by mixing a bunch of various types of
1:01:29
both the softener and the detergent and something else i don't even know what it was and then of course the machine you
1:01:37
know is jumping around and it's it's off balance and it pulls the the water hoses off and so then that's part of the chaos
1:01:43
scene what it reminded me of when I was little and I think at this time we had
1:01:49
the harvest gold appliances in our kitchen still so it was probably in the 80s and I thought I was being helpful by
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starting the dishwasher oh but I put hand wash i didn't realize there was a
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difference between dishwasher detergent and like Dawn like hand washing oh my goodness how sedated it get the There
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was like a foot in the kitchen like a foot of suds oh my goodness that's a lot
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but I thought I was I was trying to be helpful and yeah screwed it up so Oh that's funny
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well Craig I feel like I don't know i really really enjoyed re-watching Mr mom
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again like I said it it just brought me this very comforting feeling but it is time now to return to present day
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reality until the next Retroate episode do you have any closing thoughts Craig on Mr mom no again it's just like it's
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just a nice sort of non-threatening feel 91 minute escape um and it's you know
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it's a little sort of time capsule back to the pre- internet days which was
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something I thought about i was like "Wow he's existing in this house with these kids with daytime TV because he
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can't just open up Netflix and watch whatever he wants." And so he's got to he has no choice but to watch The Young and the Restless so it was cool it was
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cool taking a trip back and sort of remembering life before technology you know changed you know our day-to-day
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indeed yeah the At first so we see him make a turn at first he's like "Who would watch this?" Yeah and then by the
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end of it he's like calling the neighbor and they're like "Whose baby is it?" Oh my goodness and then he's like "But he
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had a vasectomy." And then he's like "It didn't pay." And it was Victor i mean it was the actual Young and the Restless
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episodes that they were playing i'm like "I know these characters." So funny yeah well tell us where we can
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where we can find you and what's what's the next episode okay um goodness so you
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can find me if you just go to your podcast catcher of choice or just in Google just if you type the goat deama
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the show will come up you can find that i'm very very very behind on the show so
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I'm literally recording episodes very close to release so for the next episode
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which I'm not sure when this is going to drop pretty I'm same i'm very behind so everything Yeah so I I normally release
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episodes every other Tuesday so the next episode will either be um early pre-
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theatrical dipama where I'll look at the short films he made or I'll be looking
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at his first film Murder Alamad but either way that's what's coming down the
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line and it will be a solo episode i also have some great stuff lined up uh
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but also I'm really proud of some episodes I've done recently i did an episode with filmmaker Pete Gelderlum
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who not to get too in the weeds here he
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watched the Deal Palama movie raising Cain with John Lithggo discovered that it was edited differently than the
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script and went and made a director's cut or made a an edit based on DeAnma's
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original script and when they were releasing it on home video Deama had found Pete's edit and he
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was like "Yeah this the only way I'm going to sign off on this is if you include Pete's edit of my movie." and it
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has since been called like the alternate you know quote unquote director's cut which is just amazing so being able to
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sit down with Pete and go through the whole process of how it came to be is pretty pretty interesting but that was
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an interesting episode i very much enjoyed it thank you and then also a movie I never thought I'd talk about was
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Bonfire: The Vanities which I sat down with Ryan about and in the next couple of months I'm also going to revisit a
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movie I never thought I would talk about on the show which is uh 2006's The Black Dalia which is a movie
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I do not like so I'm interested in sitting down and watching that again because a potential guest was like "Yeah
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I want to talk about The Black Dalia and here's why." And I was like "Oh my god I think I have to revisit this movie." So
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some Palma is that is it okay yeah yeah so some interesting things things down
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the pike but yeah if you're at all interested in in film definitely give it a give it a look the goat toama if you
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Google that um you'll find it like I said in your podcast catcher of choice
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but thank you so much for allowing me to plug my show and bringing me on and and talking this movie i always enjoy
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guesting on people's shows anytime and if you are watching or listening and you
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are enjoying this episode you know what I'm going to ask you can email me i do want to hear from you so email me
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