hol+ with Dr. Taz MD | The Future of Medicine is Holistic

What if the symptoms you feel in your body are not random, but signals of something deeper happening in your energy system? In this episode, Dr. Taz sits down with Dr. Sue Morter, master of bioenergetic medicine, founder of the Morter Institute for Bioenergetics, and author of The Anatomy of Awakening, to explore how energy medicine connects to the nervous system, chronic stress, emotional patterns, and the body’s ability to heal.

In this  episode Dr. Sue explains how energetic blockages can show up as a lump in the throat, tightness in the chest, a knot in the stomach, chronic tension, anxiety, digestive issues, allergies, pain patterns, and other symptoms that often appear disconnected from the deeper root cause.
Dr. Sue shares how the flow of energy through the body acts like a master system, influencing the nervous system, endocrine system, digestive system, respiratory system, cardiovascular system, and the body’s self-regulating capacity. When that flow becomes blocked by unresolved emotions, survival patterns, stress, fear, or disconnection from the self, the body may move into dysregulation and lose access to its natural healing intelligence.

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Healing is not just about treating symptoms. It is about understanding the deeper patterns beneath them, including stress, emotional suppression, nervous system dysregulation, breath, posture, self-compassion, and the relationship you have with your own body.

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Dr. Taz and Dr. Sue also discuss why affirmations and manifestation practices may not work if they are coming from the protective or performing personality, why posture and breath can help shift the body into a different state, and how reconnecting with the true self can open the door to healing, creativity, safety, and wholeness.
If you’ve ever felt stuck in chronic stress, disconnected from your body, frustrated by symptoms that don’t fully resolve, or curious about the connection between energy, emotions, and physical health, this episode will help you understand what may actually be happening beneath the surface.

In this episode, we cover:

  •  What energy medicine really means and why it belongs in the healing model
  •  How energetic blockages can dysregulate the nervous system
  •  Why symptoms like chest tightness, throat tension, stomach knots, and chronic pain may be body signals
  •  How unresolved emotions and survival patterns can affect physical health
  •  Why the body can get stuck in fight-or-flight, even when the original threat is gone
  •  How breathwork, posture, and internal awareness help energy move through the body
  •  Why affirmations may not work when they come from a place of lack or fear
  •  How self-compassion helps shift the relationship between the protective personality and the true self
  •  What Dr. Sue means by “the anatomy of awakening” and the five hidden codes
  •  How small daily practices can begin to restore a sense of safety, wholeness, and self-healing
This is not just about energy healing. It is about understanding the body as a connected system, learning how stress and emotion shape your physiology, and remembering that healing often begins by returning to yourself.

About The Guest:
Dr. Sue Morter is an international speaker, master of bioenergetic medicine, founder of the Morter Institute for Bioenergetics, and author of The Anatomy of Awakening. With more than 40 years of clinical experience, she is known for bridging energy medicine, neuroscience, consciousness, breathwork, and embodied healing practices to help people move from survival patterns into coherence, vitality, and wholeness.

About Dr. Taz:
Dr. Tasneem Bhatia (Dr. Taz) is a triple board-certified integrative medicine physician,
bestselling author, and founder of hol+ a multi-location integrative medicine practice.
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Host & Production Team
Host: Dr. Taz; Produced by ClipGrowth.com (Producer: Pat Gostek)

Chapters
00:00 Energy blockages and nervous system dysregulation
00:46 Introducing Dr. Sue Morter and bioenergetic medicine
03:08 Why energy medicine belongs in the healing model
04:40 What energy healing really means
06:00 Ancient medicine, qi, and energy flow
08:15 Is energy medicine scientific?
09:45 Quantum science, consciousness, and physical reality
12:00 Emotions, mitochondria, and generational patterns
14:09 Patient stories and emotional blockages
16:00 Can every illness be connected to energy?
20:10 How to know if you have an energy blockage
21:05 Throat tension, chest tightness, stomach knots, and body signals
22:15 How energy flow affects the body’s master systems
24:20 Safety, chronic stress, and nervous system overdrive
26:30 Why self-compassion changes your energy
29:45 How your inner world reflects in your outer life
31:15 Support inside the Circle
32:05 Why some people stay stuck in repeated patterns
34:15 Manifestation, affirmations, and why they may not work
35:15 The protective personality vs. the true self
38:55 Meditation, breathwork, and the witness mind
41:40 How posture affects energy flow
44:15 The solar plexus, personal power, wisdom, and love
45:30 The Anatomy of Awakening and the five hidden codes
49:40 How quickly can energy healing create change?
51:40 What Dr. Sue hopes readers take away
52:05 Advice for people facing chronic illness
53:35 Where to find Dr. Sue Morter’s book
54:55 What makes Dr. Sue Morter whole
56:25 Final reflections


Creators and Guests

Host
Dr. Taz Bhatia MD
Dr. Taz Bhatia is a triple-board-certified integrative medicine physician and founder of hol+, where she brings together science, spirit and the human experience to deliver holistic, whole-person care.
Producer
Pat Gostek
Founder of ClipGrowth.com - End-to-End YouTube, Podcast & Clips Management (you just record).

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[00:00:00] Dr. Sue Morter: Everybody has had the experience of a lump in their throat, tightness in their [00:00:05] chest, a knot in their stomach. These are all symptoms of an energetic [00:00:10] blockage. So think of it this way, an energetic blockage, disregulates, the nervous [00:00:15] system. The nervous system being dysregulated, changes our chemistry, changes our [00:00:20] physiology, changes, our ability to self-heal, and then we end up with.
[00:00:24] Dr. Sue Morter: [00:00:25] Symptoms like digestive problems, allergies, asthmas, pain patterns that don't go [00:00:30] away, anxiety, the digestive system, the respiratory system, the endocrine system [00:00:35] altogether, the cardiovascular system, the nervous system. All of these systems are [00:00:40] built by one master system and that master system. It's the flow of [00:00:45] energy through our body.
[00:00:46] Dr. Taz: My next guest, Dr. Sue Morder, is an international speaker, [00:00:50] master of Bioenergetic Medicine and founder of the Mortar Institute for [00:00:55] bioenergetics. With more than 40 years of clinical experience, she's widely [00:01:00] recognized for her work, bridging energy medicine, neuroscience, and conscious [00:01:05] based performance.
[00:01:05] Dr. Sue Morter: So energy medicine is really talking about the quantum science, the quanta [00:01:10] energy that is smaller than what the eye can see, but even smaller than what [00:01:15] we've, you know, referenced as the atom.
[00:01:16] Dr. Sue Morter: These tiniest particles that our reality is made of [00:01:20] are influenced by our conscious thought. When we can, we can create a vacuum [00:01:25] with just a few randomly placed photons inside this vacuum. We can think a particular [00:01:30] thought in toward that vacuum and the photons rearrange, oh my God. We can think a different [00:01:35] kind of thought, and the photons rearrange accordingly.
[00:01:37] Dr. Sue Morter: Our consciousness, our conscious focus of [00:01:40] our attention. Has an ability to shape shift physical [00:01:45] reality, the power of thought and breath and attention and magnifying. Our [00:01:50] focus has every ability to determine the function of [00:01:55] livers and kidneys and colons and respiration and chemistries and, um, and our [00:02:00] ability, most importantly, to operate as a creative influence in our lives versus.[00:02:05]
[00:02:05] Dr. Sue Morter: Operating on the defense, uh, being a reactor and a victim to the [00:02:10] circumstances that occur.
[00:02:11] Dr. Taz: Through her energy code trainings, body awake yoga programs [00:02:15] and global retreats, she helps individuals shift from chronic stress and [00:02:20] survival patterns into states of coherence, vitality, and embodied [00:02:25] awareness.
[00:02:25] Dr. Taz: Let's welcome Dr. Sue Morder. This episode is sponsored by Whole Plus a [00:02:30] holistic health platform built around education. Personalization and integrative [00:02:35] care. Whole plus blends holistic, integrative and functional medicine clinics [00:02:40] with learning resources like blogs, YouTube videos, and of course this podcast.
[00:02:44] Dr. Taz: So [00:02:45] you're not just treated, you're informed. The platform also includes holistic health [00:02:50] quizzes and a curated wellness shop, helping you make choices that support your body at the root [00:02:55] level. Whole Plus is holistic healthcare designed for real life. [00:03:00] Visit us@wholeplus.co to learn more about the platform.
[00:03:04] Dr. Taz: Again, [00:03:05] that's HOL
[00:03:06] Dr. Sue Morter: ps.co.
[00:03:08] Dr. Taz: I am so excited about this [00:03:10] topic. Let me tell you why. Because we actually offer and have had [00:03:15] in our practices at Whole Plus, uh, of. A whole section of the practice is devoted [00:03:20] to energy healing and energy medicine.
[00:03:22] Dr. Sue Morter: Wow.
[00:03:22] Dr. Taz: But as a medical doctor, you know, when I'm telling my [00:03:25] patients about this, 'cause I have a methodology by which I'm like, okay, I think you would really benefit, you [00:03:30] know, from doing some work in energy.
[00:03:31] Dr. Taz: I get like the blanks. Yeah. Right. What is that like? You know, what is [00:03:35] she talking about? Okay, now she's doing that woowoo thing that she does every now and then. So I'm, so, I'm [00:03:40] so excited to have you on here because I want people to understand maybe the [00:03:45] science. Behind energy. Mm-hmm. Medicine and energy healing, you know, what it is [00:03:50] and how we need to take it out of the woo woo bucket and put it into the [00:03:55] healing model.
[00:03:55] Dr. Taz: Yeah. Because I know for a fact that, you know, after all these years of working with so [00:04:00] many people and so many patients. People get stuck, you know? Yeah. You can have the most beautiful [00:04:05] diet and supplement plan and medications, and you can do all the surgeries and you can do all the [00:04:10] things, but there's just that thing.
[00:04:11] Dr. Taz: There's that something, something
[00:04:13] Dr. Sue Morter: else
[00:04:13] Dr. Taz: that is not [00:04:15] being answered. Mm-hmm. And, and I feel like it's very important in the healing model. So I'm so excited you're here [00:04:20] today.
[00:04:20] Dr. Sue Morter: Yay.
[00:04:20] Dr. Taz: I'm excited for the audience to learn more about you and your work. And I know you have a book [00:04:25] coming out as well, um, in a, in a few weeks.
[00:04:27] Dr. Taz: So I'm really excited, you know, to learn more about [00:04:30] that. But before we get into all the details mm-hmm. Talk to us about this. What, what is energy [00:04:35] healing? What do we need to be thinking about, you know, and your work in the field? [00:04:40]
[00:04:40] Dr. Sue Morter: So, energy medicine, energy healing is, is [00:04:45] working with the basic foundation of everything.
[00:04:47] Dr. Sue Morter: Everything is energy, [00:04:50] everything. The chair that we're sitting in is energy. It's just compressed energy. We know that in the laws of physics [00:04:55] that all physical matter. Is energy compressed into form and so, so are [00:05:00] our bodies and so are our thoughts, et cetera. They're just, our thoughts are less compressed than our bodies.[00:05:05]
[00:05:05] Dr. Sue Morter: We can change our mind faster than we can change our body kind of thing. So energy [00:05:10] medicine is really about making sure that that energy is flowing through the [00:05:15] human system the way that it's supposed to. If it isn't flowing, if it gets [00:05:20] stuck, we get. Locked up in terms of our symptomatology. Our systems don't [00:05:25] work the way they're designed to digestion, filtering, cleansing, healing.
[00:05:28] Dr. Sue Morter: These things aren't [00:05:30] able to happen when the energy flow is blocked. So it's the same thing that Acupuncture's might [00:05:35] using for thousand of match. Right. I was justing that. Yep. So it's a matter of us recognizing that [00:05:40] we can get involved in getting that energy to flow again, we can enhance. It [00:05:45] ourselves.
[00:05:45] Dr. Sue Morter: With the use of our mind and our body and our breath working together, it begins [00:05:50] to enhance and amplify our true natural state. And that true [00:05:55] natural foundation is energy.
[00:05:57] Dr. Taz: Yeah, it's so interesting 'cause you know, Chinese medicine is. [00:06:00] 5,000 years old. Ayurveda is somewhere around that same age. Mm-hmm.
[00:06:03] Dr. Taz: Homeopathy has been in the [00:06:05] picture, and all of those systems, in addition to many others, talk about energy as a foundation. [00:06:10] And even the basis of Chinese medicine and acupuncture was around energy assessment [00:06:15] and evaluation. Right? Yes. Like, where's your qi? You know, what do we need to do to get the flow of energy [00:06:20] mm-hmm.
[00:06:20] Dr. Taz: To happen again? Where did we lose that? In the Western medical [00:06:25] model, you know, what happened there that we got so far away from it and got down into this very [00:06:30] reductionist way of thinking.
[00:06:31] Dr. Sue Morter: Mm. You know, I think that that one of the things that happens is [00:06:35] we, we in the western world are, are attuned to energies that are more [00:06:40] massive and dense and, and, you know, gross Not in, not in a judgmental way mm-hmm.
[00:06:44] Dr. Sue Morter: But [00:06:45] just in massive amounts of energy. And so when energy shifts big in our lives. [00:06:50] It gets our attention. We talk about the, the cosmic two by four, right? That has to hit us over the head before we start listening [00:06:55] to that inner voice that's been talking all along. And so as we have [00:07:00] developed, uh, an acuity for these more dense energies, we lose [00:07:05] touch with a subtle energy that is behind the scenes.
[00:07:08] Dr. Sue Morter: And that subtle [00:07:10] nuance is truly what allows us to tap into inner wisdom. That [00:07:15] internal guidance that is always there. We just haven't dialed into the frequency where that is [00:07:20] constantly flowing in our lives. Mm-hmm. So, uh, there's a term called Prya hara [00:07:25] in eastern culture that talks about, uh, we need to withdraw our senses back [00:07:30] onto the self and not be so concerned with the outer world, and do I fit [00:07:35] in?
[00:07:35] Dr. Sue Morter: Am I doing it right? Is this. Is this what I'm supposed to be doing? Am I getting approved of am I, you know, [00:07:40] all of the things that keep drawing us into the external world in order to find our [00:07:45] wholeness and to really, uh, allow the integration that's supposed to be [00:07:50] happening all the time. Um, we have to withdraw our attention back inside, not just when we're [00:07:55] in crisis, not just when we're broken open because of some big disappointment in our lives, or a [00:08:00] disillusionment that has us, you know, reeling, but all the time to learn to live.[00:08:05]
[00:08:05] Dr. Sue Morter: Back on the self instead of really being pulled onto the bright, shiny things of life [00:08:10] or, or the big intensive, uh, circumstances of life that pull us [00:08:15] outward.
[00:08:15] Dr. Taz: What would you say to the people that say that? And they've told me this. So, uh, what would you [00:08:20] say that when people say like, energy medicine's not scientific, there's no science behind it, [00:08:25] you know, what's your answer answer to that?
[00:08:27] Dr. Sue Morter: So, you know, I run an an [00:08:30] outcomes based, um, clinic for many, many years. I was in practice beginning in [00:08:35] 1987. I grew up in a family where my father was a pioneer in [00:08:40] energy medicine.
[00:08:40] Dr. Taz: Oh wow.
[00:08:41] Dr. Sue Morter: And so he was working with how energy flows through the body and [00:08:45] how unresolved emotions impact mm-hmm. That energy flow or stop it [00:08:50] and, uh, as I was growing up.
[00:08:52] Dr. Sue Morter: And so consequently, I have never gone to the [00:08:55] doctor, uh, in traditional terms of what we know that to be and gotten a [00:09:00] prescription for a medication for an ailment that I have had.
[00:09:03] Dr. Taz: Wow.
[00:09:03] Dr. Sue Morter: And so. [00:09:05] I know that this works. Mm-hmm. I know that it is a very real thing, [00:09:10] and my patients and clients over the years would definitely attest to that.
[00:09:13] Dr. Sue Morter: It's a, it's a, an experience that [00:09:15] really can't be argued with, and as quantum science has come onto the, [00:09:20] the, uh, scene,
[00:09:21] Dr. Taz: yes.
[00:09:21] Dr. Sue Morter: It is really, really pressing us to embrace. [00:09:25] The power of thought and the power of consciousness and what it does to influence our [00:09:30] reality, uh, not only our internal reality, but our external reality and, and what it [00:09:35] is that we are, um, perceiving.
[00:09:36] Dr. Sue Morter: Where we are coming from is determining the life experience that [00:09:40] we are having.
[00:09:40] Dr. Taz: Hmm.
[00:09:41] Dr. Sue Morter: And so. Science is showing us actually that, [00:09:45] that we have the power to shift the expression of our own DNA it. It [00:09:50] shows us that we have the power to shift even our physical environment by [00:09:55] looking at life at this very subatomic level.
[00:09:58] Dr. Sue Morter: So energy medicine is really [00:10:00] talking about the quantum science, the quanta energy that is. Smaller than [00:10:05] what the eye can see, but even smaller than what we've, you know, referenced as the atom. We used to think the [00:10:10] atom was the tiniest particle of, of our reality. And then, you know, the electron [00:10:15] microscope shows us that no, there's actually a whole world going on inside of an atom.
[00:10:18] Dr. Sue Morter: There's, there's subatomic [00:10:20] particles that are making all that happen. And when we get small enough in that study, [00:10:25] we can see that, that these tiniest particles that our reality is made [00:10:30] of, are influenced by. Our conscious thought when we can, we can create a [00:10:35] vacuum with just a few randomly placed photons inside this vacuum.
[00:10:39] Dr. Sue Morter: We can think a [00:10:40] particular thought in toward that vacuum and the photons rearrange, oh
[00:10:44] Dr. Taz: my
[00:10:44] Dr. Sue Morter: gosh. We can [00:10:45] think a different kind of thought, and the photons rearrange accordingly. So what it shows us [00:10:50] is our consciousness, our conscious focus of our attention. It [00:10:55] has an ability to shapeshift physical reality because those little photons [00:11:00] are the tiniest little particles that when stacked together, they create substance that we are used [00:11:05] to measuring in terms of atoms and molecules and so forth.
[00:11:08] Dr. Sue Morter: So quantum science is [00:11:10] bringing us into such a subtle reality of what is actually. At [00:11:15] cause of anything that's happening in our lives that we can't deny [00:11:20] that the power of thought and breath and attention and magnifying. Our [00:11:25] focus has every ability to determine the function of [00:11:30] livers and kidneys and colons.
[00:11:31] Dr. Sue Morter: Wow. Respiration and chemistries and, um, and our [00:11:35] ability, most importantly, to operate as a creative influence in our lives. Mm-hmm. Versus [00:11:40] operating on the defense, uh, being a reactor and a victim to the [00:11:45] circumstances that occur. If quantum science is saying, Hmm, we are in charge of [00:11:50] determining what's going to happen in this body and in this environment that we are [00:11:55] operating in.
[00:11:56] Dr. Sue Morter: We just have to learn how to do that. And the great news is we can, we
[00:11:59] Dr. Taz: can. Well, I [00:12:00] think it's amazing. And a little bit frightening and scary at the same time that we have the power [00:12:05] to change our DNA, right? Which means we also have tremendous amount of [00:12:10] influence on the generations coming, you know, after us, right?
[00:12:13] Dr. Taz: Because that DNA is [00:12:15] transmitted, you know, across lineages. And so I think there's a tremendous sense of [00:12:20] responsibility and there's also a tremendous sense of. Amazing. You know, [00:12:25] opportunity at the same time. Yeah, I think I did a TED Talk back and nobody understood it at the time [00:12:30] because I think this was still not like language that, you know, people were [00:12:35] using.
[00:12:35] Dr. Sue Morter: Right.
[00:12:35] Dr. Taz: But I've always been. Fascinated by this idea of like, you know, [00:12:40] quantum E energy, quantum medicine, you know, love Chinese medicine, all these other things. But I did a TED talk, I [00:12:45] think it was 2017, and it was about the fact that [00:12:50] maternal emotions are being stored in the mitochondria, which is an energy [00:12:55] field, right?
[00:12:55] Dr. Taz: Yeah. An energy source. And then being transmitted down generation after generation. [00:13:00] Largely unchanged, right? Yes. Largely unaffected by who your partner's with. [00:13:05] And the reason I, I even started that conversation, or did that TED talk, was because I was looking at our [00:13:10] lineage, our, our maline lineage and you know, like, you know, my grandmothers had [00:13:15] stories of, you know, being oppressed or not being able to express their voice or [00:13:20] whatever else.
[00:13:20] Dr. Taz: My mom had similar circumstances, you know, I was not necessarily oppressed, but I [00:13:25] was raised in a chaotic home. And then comes my daughter who. Definitely no chaotic home, [00:13:30] super happy, privileged childhood, but everyone's had the same kind of look [00:13:35] in their eye of insecurity, you know, inability to maybe voice [00:13:40] themselves or act, you know, until they mature up.
[00:13:43] Dr. Taz: And so I was like, why is [00:13:45] that? Like different experiences. And so this idea. Of locking [00:13:50] your emotions within your physical body and how it transmits down is real. [00:13:55] Mm-hmm. You know, I've seen it play out over and over again. What are some of the patient stories where you've seen [00:14:00] this idea play out in real time?
[00:14:02] Dr. Taz: Where it has been more emotional locking, [00:14:05] energetic locking or blockages that have resulted in physical outcomes?
[00:14:09] Dr. Sue Morter: Yeah. Oh my [00:14:10] goodness. So, you know, a diabetic that is, [00:14:15] uh, is really influenced by. Their immediate ability to metabolize, you know, [00:14:20] sugars in life, et cetera. Uh, once she discovered that actually [00:14:25] allowing her own disposition to be enough to be, uh, [00:14:30] whole and complete, actually her recognizing that there is a sweetness to [00:14:35] life that she never really recognized.
[00:14:37] Dr. Sue Morter: She was caught in survival all the time. Mm-hmm. And [00:14:40] was. Transferred from being raised by her parents to her grandmother raising her because of chaos in the [00:14:45] home, and, and she grew up under those circumstances, under those recognitions and, [00:14:50] and us working with, moving her energy back into its alignment and its integrated state.
[00:14:54] Dr. Sue Morter: [00:14:55] She began to recognize that, that she was okay. Hmm, that she was safe, that she was whole and [00:15:00] complete. And as a byproduct of that, not only was she able to reduce her insulin [00:15:05] down to, you know, a functional level and continue to redu continues to [00:15:10] reduce it, but also found that her eyesight was changing and that her disposition was [00:15:15] changing in at large, and her ability to actually be in a relationship for the first time [00:15:20] in her life.
[00:15:20] Dr. Sue Morter: Wow. In her thirties, uh, to be in a successful, loving, dynamic [00:15:25] relationship for the first time all was a byproduct of her recognizing that, [00:15:30] that she needed to bring her attention back onto self instead of being consumed [00:15:35] on other and defensive. Physiology, a dysregulated nervous system, which we, [00:15:40] we know so much about these days, but to recognize that there is an essence underneath [00:15:45] all of that, that, that she had no idea existed to find the true self, [00:15:50] which sounds super esoteric, but it is a starting point that we [00:15:55] all.
[00:15:55] Dr. Sue Morter: Ultimately have to find,
[00:15:57] Dr. Taz: is there a category of [00:16:00] illnesses? Whether they are, you know, something like diabetes or other autoimmune diseases, for [00:16:05] example, or cancers or mental health conditions. I don't know, is there, [00:16:10] is there a bucket or a category of medical diagnoses and medical illnesses [00:16:15] that you found in practice is really an energy issue?
[00:16:18] Dr. Taz: It's really an energy medicine [00:16:20] issue.
[00:16:20] Dr. Sue Morter: You know, if we, if we look at what science is showing us and it says everything is energy, [00:16:25] and I look at what my clinical experiences have been, it can all be traced back to energy [00:16:30] blockages, whether it's a chronic degenerative disease or a case of migraine headaches or anything in [00:16:35] between that that we experience.
[00:16:37] Dr. Sue Morter: It can all be traced back to [00:16:40] a blockage in the natural energy flow that is intended to be happening through this body. [00:16:45] That energy built this body, that energy is designed to be sustaining this [00:16:50] body, to be healing it and replenishing and rejuvenating whatever happens in the course [00:16:55] of living, uh, in our bodies and in our minds, and in our, our conscious, [00:17:00] you know.
[00:17:00] Dr. Sue Morter: Personhood our humanity, right? And so if that energy is [00:17:05] blocked, it ends up revealing in certain ways based upon the, the [00:17:10] aspects of the energy at large that are blocked. For instance, we may have blockages [00:17:15] in certain areas of our system that relate to our basic [00:17:20] foundational survival instincts, our, our capacity to feel at [00:17:25] home and safe.
[00:17:25] Dr. Taz: Not
[00:17:26] Dr. Sue Morter: even knowing what caused it. We might've been born to a mother that was [00:17:30] wrestling with that during the pregnancy. Um, that was the case in my world,
[00:17:34] Dr. Taz: right.
[00:17:34] Dr. Sue Morter: [00:17:35] And, uh, and in another level of our own consciousness, if the [00:17:40] energy is blocked, it can in inhibit our sense of [00:17:45] creativity.
[00:17:45] Dr. Taz: Hmm,
[00:17:45] Dr. Sue Morter: our sense of our capacity to take something and make it better than, [00:17:50] you know, leave it better than we found it.
[00:17:51] Dr. Sue Morter: That if we are not tapped into that part of us, [00:17:55] then we become reactive and we search for environments that feel safe [00:18:00] rather than recognizing that we can transform circumstances based upon [00:18:05] our true identity. When we know who we are, we know we can move into these circumstances [00:18:10] and shapeshift them. If we know that we're made of creative energy itself and we know [00:18:15] how to tap into that and allow it to, to literally.
[00:18:18] Dr. Sue Morter: Pour into our life [00:18:20] circumstances, it begins to shift our life circumstances. And [00:18:25] so if other areas of our system are shut down in particular ways, we may [00:18:30] be conditional in our loving, we may be, uh, hesitant if we've ever been [00:18:35] suppressed or ridiculed, or heartbroken or blindsided, and all these things that happen [00:18:40] in life.
[00:18:40] Dr. Sue Morter: If we are operating as a compromised version of who we [00:18:45] are, if we are operating as a defensive, protective, guarded [00:18:50] version of who we are,
[00:18:50] Dr. Taz: mm-hmm.
[00:18:51] Dr. Sue Morter: Then we're not operating as the creative essence, the creative [00:18:55] quality that we're capable of expressing. So it depends on [00:19:00] what parts of our energies are blocked and in which ways that will [00:19:05] determine what sort of symptoms generate in the physical body, in the emotional, uh, [00:19:10] component of our lives, in the mental capacities, uh, even in the perception of self [00:19:15] altogether, so many, many categories.
[00:19:17] Dr. Taz: So basically any illness. Can be touched by [00:19:20] this.
[00:19:20] Dr. Sue Morter: We're designed to be self-healing and self-regulating. And if we're not doing that, there's a reason, [00:19:25] you know, the average individual can be diagnosed with cancer seven times in their, in [00:19:30] their life. But the body is designed to take that up and transform, you know, [00:19:35] transform it to obliterate the cancer cells and replace them with new replenished ones.
[00:19:39] Dr. Sue Morter: [00:19:40] But what we're learning is that the energy field that is building the body and [00:19:45] and responsible for. You know, re rejuvenating it. If that energy field isn't [00:19:50] operating the, the way that it's supposed to, then those cells get to flourish out of [00:19:55] control and grow.
[00:19:55] Dr. Taz: Yeah.
[00:19:55] Dr. Sue Morter: And if the energy field is operating the way that it is built to operate, [00:20:00] it moves in and rectifies the situation and through its [00:20:05] perfecting template builds cells that are stronger than the ones that were, you know, there before.[00:20:10]
[00:20:10] Dr. Taz: Fascinating. You know, one of the things that somebody watching or listening to us today may [00:20:15] be wondering, well, how do I know? You know, out of everything that I'm dealing with [00:20:20] today, how do I know that I actually have an energy blockage? Versus something [00:20:25] else. Is there a way for them to assess themselves and to, you know, [00:20:30] understand like this is where it's coming from?
[00:20:32] Dr. Sue Morter: Yeah. There are so, so many things. You know, the, [00:20:35] the answer to the question is, is this energy or is it something else? Would [00:20:40] be its energy.
[00:20:41] Dr. Taz: Mm-hmm.
[00:20:41] Dr. Sue Morter: And it may have eventuated itself [00:20:45] into some symptoms that are now self, re, re, you know, replenishing [00:20:50] or, or recreating a new expression. Yeah. And so they become a new cause that [00:20:55] generates another problem, sort of a, a chain reaction, but you can trace it all [00:21:00] back to an energetic flow.
[00:21:02] Dr. Sue Morter: So how does somebody know [00:21:05] everybody? Has had the experience of a lump in their throat, tightness in their [00:21:10] chest, a knot in their stomach, um, a shrill up their spine, a defensiveness that they have a difficult [00:21:15] time releasing tension in the body. These are all symptoms of an [00:21:20] energetic blockage. Mm-hmm. So think of it this way, an energetic blockage, [00:21:25] disregulates the nervous system.
[00:21:26] Dr. Sue Morter: The nervous system being dysregulated changes our chemistry, [00:21:30] changes our physiology, changes our ability to self heal. And then we [00:21:35] end up with symptoms like digestive problems, allergies, asthmas, pain [00:21:40] patterns that don't go away. Anxiety stresses, you know that, that seem [00:21:45] unresolvable. That is a chain reaction in our traditional [00:21:50] medical model.
[00:21:50] Dr. Sue Morter: We're out here addressing those symptoms, right? And we take a medication to try to [00:21:55] cover it up so that we don't feel that way or that we don't have that pain or et cetera. Or if [00:22:00] there's an organ. System that isn't functioning right, we try to add to it or adjust or [00:22:05] adapt. And I know that you are very inspired by, you know, the idea of [00:22:10] let's not treat the symptom, let's get to the cause, right?
[00:22:12] Dr. Sue Morter: And so we move to these basic foundational [00:22:15] systems in the body. But those systems, the hormonal system, the [00:22:20] digestive system, the respiratory system, the endocrine system altogether, the cardiovascular [00:22:25] system, the nervous system, all of these systems are built by one master [00:22:30] system. And that master system is the flow of energy through our body.
[00:22:34] Dr. Taz: Mm.
[00:22:34] Dr. Sue Morter: [00:22:35] So if that master system is interrupted and not functioning the way that it could optimally, [00:22:40] then that chain reaction happens and we end up becoming aware of it way over [00:22:45] here on the symptom level. But it can all be traced back to why [00:22:50] isn't the nervous system regulating itself. How does it get stuck?
[00:22:54] Dr. Sue Morter: How [00:22:55] do we get locked in a dysregulation of fight or flight and get locked there in the first [00:23:00] place? And that can be traced back to if the energy isn't flowing [00:23:05] as a deep sense of self, a deep sense of knowingness of who we are, that we're [00:23:10] okay, that we are whole and complete. We're full people. We're not broken.
[00:23:14] Dr. Sue Morter: There's nothing [00:23:15] missing. There's nothing wrong. Some of our, our wholeness has been suppressed or [00:23:20] never had the opportunity. To animate and to enliven and to [00:23:25] express. And so we experience the consequences of that in terms [00:23:30] of the symptoms that we end up going to the doctor for. And so. If we can come back [00:23:35] here and learn to feel and to breathe and to [00:23:40] be positioned inside this system as we truly are meant to be, [00:23:45] then we start moving this energy flow through the body from a.[00:23:50]
[00:23:50] Dr. Sue Morter: Sort of an essential self perspective, not a personality perspective, right. But [00:23:55] an essential, true, authentic self perspective. When that starts to happen, [00:24:00] things start to let go rigidities that we've held in our body because we were uptight and [00:24:05] afraid and still reacting to that thing that happened when we were 10 or 15 or 25 or [00:24:10] 35, for that matter.
[00:24:10] Dr. Taz: Mm-hmm.
[00:24:11] Dr. Sue Morter: And so we start to sense and feel a melting [00:24:15] into. Oh my gosh, I had no idea that it could be easy. I could be
[00:24:19] Dr. Taz: my favorite. So [00:24:20] I've heard, I've heard you say a couple of things and I wanna make sure we're all tracking in the right direction. So, [00:24:25] you know, this idea of, of being stuck energetically is then in [00:24:30] turn creating nervous system dysfunction, which is sort of this chronic stress state, right?
[00:24:34] Dr. Taz: Yeah. [00:24:35] And one of the ways it sounds like people can identify themselves as being in that. [00:24:40] Particular place. It's just not feeling safe. It sounds like not feeling safe in your body, [00:24:45] not feeling, you know, uh, confident with who you are or what [00:24:50] your purpose is or, or where you're lining out in the world, and being a little bit more [00:24:55] externally driven than internally driven.
[00:24:57] Dr. Taz: Mm-hmm. Do I have that right?
[00:24:58] Dr. Sue Morter: Yes.
[00:24:58] Dr. Taz: Yes. That is what, [00:25:00] that's what's sounding like, sort of like a quick screening tool for anybody who's like, [00:25:05] well. You know, am I, do I need to go down this road? Mm-hmm. And, and the answer's probably yes for almost [00:25:10] everyone, because almost everyone I meet nowadays is in a chronic nervous system, overdrive, high [00:25:15] cortisol state.
[00:25:16] Dr. Taz: Right? But I think these ideas of safety, [00:25:20] focusing internally, being creative. Like, you know, I think if your creativity is [00:25:25] blocked and you're not able, you know, to be innovative or creative or [00:25:30] productive in your life and, and unique in individual ways that are authentic to you, those are [00:25:35] all signs, maybe and symptoms that the issues weigh up here, not downstream [00:25:40] with maybe a symptom like fatigue or brain fog or weight gain or, or some of those things that [00:25:45] so many people talk about, you know, as people.
[00:25:47] Dr. Taz: You know, try to understand this idea of energy medicine [00:25:50] and energy healing. And you've talked a lot about self-healing. You know, what is. The path to [00:25:55] self-healing. 'cause as, as you've already mentioned, our thoughts can shift DNA, they can shift [00:26:00] what's happening in a intercellular, you know, environment. And again, I go to [00:26:05] That's amazing.
[00:26:05] Dr. Taz: And that's also really scary because like, oh my gosh, what if I have a bad thought? Like, what am I doing? [00:26:10] You know, so, you know, so how do we start to [00:26:15] master this? Mm-hmm. How do we start to get our hands around it in a realistic, practical [00:26:20] way where. Where we're influencing energy in the right direction [00:26:25] and you know, we are able, you know, to sort of co-create it sounds like, with [00:26:30] ourselves.
[00:26:30] Dr. Sue Morter: Mm-hmm. You know, one of the things that, that I feel is, is [00:26:35] direly missing in our approach to [00:26:40] self-healing, uh, is that we want to, we, we are, we're [00:26:45] losing touch with and embracing. Allowing, uh, [00:26:50] nurturing disposition in the world. We've been pulled outside of ourselves [00:26:55] so much that we're approaching everything.
[00:26:56] Dr. Sue Morter: Like, okay, how do I deal with that? How do I deal with that? How do I deal [00:27:00] with that? How do I get over this? How do I, how do I, you know, hack this situation? Mm-hmm. Or how do I, you [00:27:05] know, what's the, what's the little skill that I can do in this moment to to, to be the quick fix? [00:27:10] And what's, what's deeply missing inside of it is our come from, of our, of [00:27:15] our wholeness.
[00:27:16] Dr. Sue Morter: So, for instance, you mentioned, you know, what, if I think a negative thought, am I gonna like [00:27:20] derail myself? No. Um, if I. Think a [00:27:25] negative thought and I can embrace the part of me that is afraid, or that is, [00:27:30] you know, being, um, uh, pessimistic or protective or guarded in [00:27:35] some way. If I can, the moment that I experience myself thinking that way, [00:27:40] if I can have compassion for that version of myself.
[00:27:43] Dr. Sue Morter: In this very [00:27:45] moment, if I can recognize, wow, you know, that feels [00:27:50] extraordinarily protective and you know, edgy and I'm very contracted. And [00:27:55] when we recognize that contraction or the edginess thought or the, or the, uh, [00:28:00] words that are coming out of our mouth that are judgemental or, you know, protective in some way, if [00:28:05] we can immediately turn on the compassionate version of self.
[00:28:09] Dr. Sue Morter: For self.
[00:28:09] Dr. Taz: Mm-hmm. [00:28:10]
[00:28:10] Dr. Sue Morter: You know, we think of in terms of compassion, like we should be compassion for the other person and then we won't judge them and everything will [00:28:15] be better. And that is true. And if we're judging someone else, it is a [00:28:20] reflection of the judgment that's going on inside of ourselves that we aren't attuned to [00:28:25] because it's more subtle than this outer world, this movie that we're walking [00:28:30] through where, where the.
[00:28:32] Dr. Sue Morter: Inner world is being reflected to us. And this is [00:28:35] another thing that quantum science is teaching us that we can't see and feel and hear what's going [00:28:40] on inside as easily, only because we're not attuned to it. Because we could, we can [00:28:45] teach ourselves to do so, but in the meantime, we're very attuned to what's going on in the outer world,
[00:28:49] Dr. Taz: [00:28:50] right?
[00:28:50] Dr. Sue Morter: So what happens in here and doesn't happen in here gets [00:28:55] reflected in the movie that we're walking through in this life. So if I'm not kind to [00:29:00] myself, someone's going to not be kind to me, because that's how I [00:29:05] perceive my value. That's how, that's when you do the math, that's how it's adding up. [00:29:10] So life is reflecting back to us how we're secretly stealth, fully treating [00:29:15] ourselves on the inside, but we don't even know it.
[00:29:17] Dr. Sue Morter: Because of this suppressed [00:29:20] version of authentic self. True self.
[00:29:22] Dr. Taz: Interesting.
[00:29:22] Dr. Sue Morter: So if I'm in an abusive [00:29:25] relationship, my attention of course goes to how am I gonna deal with this abuse? How? How do I [00:29:30] navigate this? How do I survive this? Do I stay? Do I go, what do I do? And our attention is way out [00:29:35] here. And once we get to safety and we begin healing, we begin to recognize, [00:29:40] wow.
[00:29:41] Dr. Sue Morter: Yeah. I was doing that to myself. Yeah. Long before they started doing it to me.
[00:29:44] Dr. Taz: [00:29:45] Huh?
[00:29:45] Dr. Sue Morter: I just didn't realize it. So when we walk ourselves back into this, this [00:29:50] subtle awareness, we begin to become much more masterful [00:29:55] in life because we can. Share compassionate moments [00:30:00] with the self between the performing personality or the protective [00:30:05] personality and the true, essential, soulful self, if you will, uh, [00:30:10] of, of who we are and when we develop that sort of patience and [00:30:15] internal presence and, and a loving relationship internally.[00:30:20]
[00:30:20] Dr. Sue Morter: It begins to be reflected in our external lives. It can't not because the [00:30:25] vibrational frequency mm-hmm. That we are now emanating has changed. [00:30:30] So let me just kind of reframe Yeah. Back to where we were. Everything is energy, and [00:30:35] energy is vibrating in various frequencies like radio [00:30:40] stations and if I'm dialed into.
[00:30:42] Dr. Sue Morter: Country and Western, I'm gonna hear country and western. [00:30:45] If I'm dialed into jazz, I'm gonna hear jazz. So the same thing is [00:30:50] true inside our whole operating system, this energetic master system, [00:30:55] it's operating in a variety of frequencies. And if I'm dialed in to only a few, [00:31:00] then that's what I experience in this abundant universe of all the [00:31:05] things that that can be experienced.
[00:31:07] Dr. Sue Morter: I experience these kinds of things [00:31:10] because I'm dialed in to a vibrational frequency where those kinds of things [00:31:15] exist.
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[00:32:03] Dr. Taz: All right, let's jump back into [00:32:05] the episode.
[00:32:05] Dr. Sue Morter: So when I was in in practice every day, and that's all I was doing. [00:32:10] Over the years, I recognized that I had certain patients and maybe have experienced this, I had certain [00:32:15] patients that were always having accidents. They were falling off ladders, they were in car [00:32:20] wrecks.
[00:32:20] Dr. Sue Morter: There were, there was something almost always going on in their life. You know, something was [00:32:25] happening with a family member, a drama, a trauma crisis was always unfolding. And about [00:32:30] 20% of my patient base accounted for about 80% of the accidents and [00:32:35] incidents that were dramatic in my practice over a period of.
[00:32:38] Dr. Sue Morter: 20 years. And so [00:32:40] I began to recognize like, what is going on here? You don't just have bad luck. You're dialed [00:32:45] into something in an unknowing fashion that is keeping you in a [00:32:50] disconnected, disoriented, um, reality.
[00:32:53] Dr. Taz: Hmm.
[00:32:54] Dr. Sue Morter: And so [00:32:55] your system is emanating that vibrational frequency and. We [00:33:00] literally, uh, attract and engage in ways that are [00:33:05] limited in those same ways.
[00:33:07] Dr. Sue Morter: It also shows up as, [00:33:10] you know, different diagnoses, different disease conditions, different ways of [00:33:15] dysfunction that our system will adopt to because of the, [00:33:20] um, incomplete. Bandwidth that we're dialing into. We're limiting [00:33:25] ourselves by beliefs that we hold about ourselves at a deep, [00:33:30] deep level. We are limiting ourselves by our disposition in the world because of [00:33:35] that.
[00:33:35] Dr. Taz: Hmm.
[00:33:35] Dr. Sue Morter: I believe at some deep level that I'm not enough. I'm going to take different [00:33:40] actions and I'm going to emanate different energies than if I [00:33:45] finally begin to embrace, you know, yes, I am enough.
[00:33:48] Dr. Taz: So this,
[00:33:49] Dr. Sue Morter: yes,
[00:33:49] Dr. Taz: I'm, so this, yeah. [00:33:50] Ties back to this idea of manifestation and, and optimism and some of these other.[00:33:55]
[00:33:55] Dr. Taz: Things that have floated around in our culture, you know, where you know the idea, I'm [00:34:00] gonna manifest this, or I'm gonna make this happen, but then it doesn't happen. [00:34:05] And I've had others explain that it's not happening because at that very deep level, you've [00:34:10] not really reset the frequency or the radio station.
[00:34:13] Dr. Taz: So, you know, my question is. [00:34:15] How do we go about, like, if we can identify, which I feel like is the first [00:34:20] part, right? Like identifying that this is your issue and this is really where to [00:34:25] begin. Like how do we go about resetting that, right? Mm-hmm. Because [00:34:30] you know, we have a lot of people doing vision boards and manifest.
[00:34:33] Dr. Taz: And [00:34:35] affirming and affirmations are big. I have an 18-year-old who just like, I'm doing my affirmations right now, please [00:34:40] don't come in the room. You know, that type of situation, right. So we've got a, we've got a lot of all of that going [00:34:45] on, you know? But to truly impact. This change [00:34:50] down to the level of the DNA, like you've talked about.
[00:34:52] Dr. Taz: Mm-hmm. What needs to happen.
[00:34:53] Dr. Sue Morter: Yeah. A deeper [00:34:55] felt sense of what it is. A felt sense of what it is we think we [00:35:00] want or need, because the true, essential self doesn't want or need anything. [00:35:05] Mm. It's completely whole. So if I'm sitting in a seat that thinks I need [00:35:10] this, this, or this to be okay, I'm not operating in the seat of the true [00:35:15] essential self.
[00:35:15] Dr. Sue Morter: So here's how I kind of explain it. Um, when we land [00:35:20] here, we sort of splat. Okay. And meaning that we forget who we are. We [00:35:25] don't know. We're, we're, we're oriented in ways that are survival based. We're trying to [00:35:30] figure out, you know, what just happened? Where am I? How, how do I please the big people? Yeah. I keep getting in [00:35:35] trouble for doing this thing that I wanna do.
[00:35:36] Dr. Sue Morter: We're two, we're three, we're four years old and we're [00:35:40] ing inside of this dispersed version of who we are. Way out here on the [00:35:45] periphery. And so out here on the periphery, we feel lacking [00:35:50] because it's not the truth of who we are. And so we feel like something's missing because [00:35:55] we're not in touch with the wholeness of who we are.
[00:35:58] Dr. Sue Morter: And so in the course of life, little [00:36:00] by little, we have the opportunities to pull ourselves back into center. [00:36:05] Where we've pulled back all of our resources, all the aspects of who we are, and we really [00:36:10] get, but you know, by the time we're like 85, we get, you know, Hey, don't mess with me, honey. Mm-hmm. I've been there.
[00:36:14] Dr. Sue Morter: [00:36:15] Mm-hmm. Right? Mm-hmm. And so we have this disposition that we've earned our way back into, I'm just [00:36:20] gonna be me and you can deal with it.
[00:36:21] Dr. Taz: Yeah.
[00:36:21] Dr. Sue Morter: And so, so. Along the way, lots of [00:36:25] years in between there, we suffer and, and we want, and we don't have, and [00:36:30] we want to manifest. We want to change things. So my answer and what I've been [00:36:35] working with, with patients and clients, uh, to, to, you know, the tune of, uh, [00:36:40] having really reached millions of people with this conversation and been able to personally [00:36:45] work with thousands and thousands and thousands and thousands of people.
[00:36:48] Dr. Sue Morter: Pulling these things back together [00:36:50] again, recognizing there's a vibrational frequency to my wholeness that I, that I don't [00:36:55] operate as. So if I'm sitting and saying my affirmations, who's saying the affirmations? The one [00:37:00] who wants, or the one who celebrates that they have that, that they already have it, [00:37:05] it already exists.
[00:37:05] Dr. Sue Morter: It's already here. I'm just not, I'm not allowing it to be true. [00:37:10] I'm not dialing into it. So then the person, the rational thinker says, but it [00:37:15] isn't true. I don't have it here. It's not in my life right now.
[00:37:17] Dr. Taz: Right.
[00:37:17] Dr. Sue Morter: But on a deep, [00:37:20] energetic level, it is true. And the moment that we release [00:37:25] our position in this protective or performing personality, [00:37:30] so out here in the splat where we've dispersed, um, and.
[00:37:34] Dr. Sue Morter: Sorry, I [00:37:35] talk with my hands here. Yeah, yeah. No, so when we splat, we disperse. We're operating [00:37:40] out here on the periphery. That's the personality version of us. The one who has some, [00:37:45] some skills and some talents, and the one who's missing some stuff and you know, all that. Yeah. [00:37:50] So we grab a hold of that one and we go for it.
[00:37:52] Dr. Sue Morter: Because it's all we know. And so we go through [00:37:55] life, you know, uh, working from these things that we, people have given us [00:38:00] feedback. Oh, you're so, you're so, um, kind. You're, you're so generous. And so we [00:38:05] be more kind and generous because we get rewarded for that and we keep operating. [00:38:10] In a performance based world.
[00:38:11] Dr. Taz: Yeah.
[00:38:11] Dr. Sue Morter: And at the end of the day, that's [00:38:15] not who we are. It's not all of us. And so we get 20, 30, 40 years into that [00:38:20] and we start feeling like, you know, I'm getting tired. It's, it takes a lot to do this. Mm-hmm. And it's, [00:38:25] it's not inspired. It, I don't, I don't, I feel like I'm missing these things. So we learn about [00:38:30] manifesting and saying affirmations and doing these things.
[00:38:31] Dr. Sue Morter: So we start doing them from the seat of the personality. [00:38:35] Okay. In the work that I'm doing is inviting people [00:38:40] to recognize that's just an operating system that you've been programmed into, [00:38:45] that you tried it on for size, it worked, but what got you here won't get you to the [00:38:50] rest of you,
[00:38:50] Dr. Taz: right?
[00:38:51] Dr. Sue Morter: And so to get to the rest of you, we gotta drop in [00:38:55] and remember who you were.
[00:38:57] Dr. Sue Morter: Before you splatted remember who you were before you [00:39:00] got dispersed and to recognize that, so people work with meditation and breath [00:39:05] work and coming into stillness and silence so that they're not always the doer. Yeah. And [00:39:10] they develop the observing mind, the witness mind, and they start to witness life.
[00:39:14] Dr. Sue Morter: [00:39:15] And instead of just reacting to it, which is a beautiful step in the right direction, and when we [00:39:20] develop that witness mind, we're getting closer back here. But ultimately, we're [00:39:25] supposed to be using that witness mind, observing mind instead of the thinking, [00:39:30] analytical, strategizing mind always to come back and use it.
[00:39:34] Dr. Sue Morter: On the [00:39:35] inside to witness the energies that are trying to move through my [00:39:40] system by first noticing where those energies are stuck. You know, I've had this knot in [00:39:45] my gut for 15 years. Somebody would say to me. And I'm saying, yeah, that's where the rest of [00:39:50] you is, that you've been missing. If you would free up that energy that is locked up in the [00:39:55] liver area or the pancreas area, or free up that energy that's around your heart space [00:40:00] or free up that energy that is locked in the hip, that just doesn't seem to heal or, [00:40:05] or the, the energy that doesn't run down that leg.
[00:40:07] Dr. Sue Morter: So you're. Always injuring that knee [00:40:10] again, and it never really heals and it's been 15 years, et cetera. If we would free up [00:40:15] the energy that is blocked in this body, we actually would begin to experience [00:40:20] the rest of who we are. We would start to feel, uh, a sense of compassion, [00:40:25] which is required to find that energy inside.
[00:40:27] Dr. Sue Morter: We would experience a version of [00:40:30] love that we've not known before because a sense of wholeness starts to move [00:40:35] inside this system. That we never knew we had. It was in there, but we were way [00:40:40] out here on the periphery in this performing personality or this protective personality [00:40:45] trying to make life happen.
[00:40:46] Dr. Taz: Yeah.
[00:40:46] Dr. Sue Morter: Trying to get it to go. And we're exhausting ourselves doing that. That's [00:40:50] why the nervous system is dysregulated. That's why the chemistry is off. That's why we're not healing. [00:40:55] So when we come back and we begin with the end in mind, we begin as if it is true that [00:41:00] I'm whole and we just do something like sit and breathe in the.
[00:41:04] Dr. Sue Morter: Five [00:41:05] minutes that you're waiting for, you know, whomever to, to be, get ready to go to [00:41:10] dinner, and you're sitting there like, da, da, da. So do something really productive in [00:41:15] that moment and just start to pay attention to your breath. Start to pay attention to [00:41:20] who's sitting there. Are you tense? Are you agitated?
[00:41:22] Dr. Sue Morter: Are you controlled by your mind? Or [00:41:25] are you mastering that situation and bringing your mind into your heart, breathing in your [00:41:30] belly, stretching open. Some of those areas that are just chronically rigid, tight [00:41:35] because they're contracted for a good reason, they're not just inadvertently [00:41:40] contracted.
[00:41:40] Dr. Taz: So you talk about the importance of breath work, but you also mentioned the importance of posture.[00:41:45]
[00:41:45] Dr. Sue Morter: Hmm.
[00:41:45] Dr. Taz: Talk to us a little bit about that, how posture connects to the flow of energy and [00:41:50] to this sort of, you know, inability to connect back to yourself.
[00:41:54] Dr. Sue Morter: Yeah. [00:41:55] So if we, if we were to pull all those energies back into our deep core and breathe [00:42:00] life into that, we would be operating as someone who is whole and [00:42:05] complete.
[00:42:05] Dr. Sue Morter: Who isn't afraid, who isn't here to prove anything. Rather someone who is [00:42:10] here to express and. And explore and [00:42:15] create and engage and share. And that person has a different [00:42:20] posture than the person who feels downtrodden. Is exhausted. Is [00:42:25] overwhelmed with the stresses and the strains of life because they're preoccupied with the [00:42:30] competitive scenario.
[00:42:32] Dr. Sue Morter: Right. They think it's real. And so they act every [00:42:35] day as if it is, which confirms then in fact it is. And because we continue to [00:42:40] dial into that radio station, that's the world we're living in. And if we were to [00:42:45] dial into a radio station that feels whole and complete, we would be [00:42:50] experiencing. More wholeness and completeness, but it has to be felt.
[00:42:53] Dr. Sue Morter: And so if we [00:42:55] assume, so here's what we know. If our consciousness is aligned and integrated, [00:43:00] we automatically have shoulders that roll back. We have a chest that feels full on the [00:43:05] inside and it's pressing us out. It's not that we're sitting up and sticking out our chest, [00:43:10] it's that we're on the inside inflating a balloon.
[00:43:13] Dr. Sue Morter: If you will, filled [00:43:15] with love, if I could give it a vibrational frequency that is pressing out into this [00:43:20] world here to express and to explore and to celebrate. So if [00:43:25] we know that the consciousness does that to a body when it's plugged [00:43:30] in, if we put the body in that position. Itself as if we already [00:43:35] are feeling that way, and then we move deep inside the body and [00:43:40] start breathing with the love that would be present if we did know who we were.
[00:43:44] Dr. Sue Morter: [00:43:45] What begins to happen is we put ourselves in the neighborhood [00:43:50] of the vibrational radio station where that can click into place.
[00:43:54] Dr. Taz: Interesting.
[00:43:54] Dr. Sue Morter: [00:43:55] So, so if we. And, and we can learn how to squeeze certain [00:44:00] muscle groups, move into certain positions, breathe in certain ways at the same time that [00:44:05] start to encourage that energy to start moving again.
[00:44:09] Dr. Sue Morter: But [00:44:10] even if we start doing that from living in our head, we ultimately [00:44:15] have to drop down inside this body. Mm, in the heart. In the gut, in the [00:44:20] solar plexus that separates the two. If you think about this, our heart, we know love, [00:44:25] you know, compassion, this divine ability to forgive and to begin again, and then we have [00:44:30] below the navel, this wisdom center.
[00:44:33] Dr. Taz: Mm-hmm.
[00:44:33] Dr. Sue Morter: That is where you [00:44:35] know your deep gut feelings, your inner knowing resides in mass. There's [00:44:40] a lot of energy in that area of consciousness. And [00:44:45] so here's the problem. There's this. Blockage between the two [00:44:50] at the solar Plexus area where. Our personal power resides [00:44:55] our personal identity. So if I have the basic core belief that I'm not [00:45:00] enough, that luck never goes my way, I wasn't born into the right, you know, privileges and [00:45:05] circumstances, you know, we're contracted.
[00:45:07] Dr. Sue Morter: Then with that belief, it's a very [00:45:10] contracting disposition. Mm. Even if we weren't, it doesn't mean we can't have anything. [00:45:15] So when we start to open that posturally and start to breathe in that area, we [00:45:20] start to stimulate the part of consciousness that bridges our wisdom and our love. And it [00:45:25] is so powerful.
[00:45:25] Dr. Sue Morter: The Eastern culture would reference it as the power of a thousand sons.
[00:45:29] Dr. Taz: Mm.
[00:45:29] Dr. Sue Morter: That's a [00:45:30] lot.
[00:45:30] Dr. Taz: That's a lot. Well, you've written a book, uh, hidden Codes, right? The Five Hidden [00:45:35] Codes of Awakening is the, tell us the of your book. Do I have it correct? Yeah. It's The Anatomy of Awakening. It's
[00:45:39] Dr. Sue Morter: the [00:45:40] Anatomy of
[00:45:40] Dr. Taz: Awakening anatomy.
[00:45:40] Dr. Taz: And in the book you talk about all these different. Codes. [00:45:45] Can you walk us through those for a second? Um, in terms of what we need to understand as we are [00:45:50] trying to, to come out of this essentially. Right.
[00:45:52] Dr. Sue Morter: So, you know, that's exactly why the book, [00:45:55] I started recognizing that a lot of people would hear this conversation and.
[00:45:59] Dr. Sue Morter: [00:46:00] Feel like there's something in that. I don't know exactly what she's talking about, but I can [00:46:05] feel, yeah, that there's something in me that knows that I've been doing all the stuff I've been [00:46:10] saying, all the affirmations, creating the vision board, I've been listening to, and watching and reading and do, do [00:46:15] all of it.
[00:46:16] Dr. Sue Morter: And this thing isn't happening. There's, I, maybe, maybe there's been some [00:46:20] improvement, but I'm still not feeling this over the, you know, over the finish line kind of [00:46:25] feeling. And so I started working with people in an, in an organized [00:46:30] fashion, starting as, as if with the end in mind. Mm-hmm. Starting as if we'd already crossed the finish line, [00:46:35] how would you feel if you had, how would you feel if you were.
[00:46:39] Dr. Sue Morter: Already [00:46:40] knowing your wholeness and your complete, and your completeness. And so I start by [00:46:45] recognizing you are at your very foundation, a creator of your life. [00:46:50] You are that. So we have, so I explain what that means and how we can [00:46:55] begin to approach that. And I, and I'm showing people in, in one of the, the [00:47:00] first of the, of the five codes that, you know, let's start at the beginning.
[00:47:03] Dr. Sue Morter: You are [00:47:05] this unified field of consciousness that has come into. Body form. You are [00:47:10] not just a human being, you are an energy being that is being human. Mm. You know, in [00:47:15] spirituality, they would say, you're a, you're a spirit, you're a soul. That is in this life journey [00:47:20] in, in terms of science. We, we can't really talk that way, but we do.
[00:47:24] Dr. Sue Morter: Uh, we do. [00:47:25] When, when, when we get down to the brass tacks, we're like, what do you feel in your heart of hearts? What's [00:47:30] your soul saying? You know, we're, we're there. So we begin to. [00:47:35] Train people to recognize these vibrational frequencies that we have edged out. [00:47:40] We bring in, um, ideas like, you're a sacred presence.
[00:47:44] Dr. Sue Morter: You are, you are [00:47:45] made of wholeness. You are a rare presence on this, on this earth. And to [00:47:50] recognize your uniqueness and your importance of being, et cetera. And so we start to [00:47:55] cultivate vibrational frequencies that we long ago. Pressed aside. Mm-hmm. Because it just [00:48:00] wasn't necessary in my immediate environment.
[00:48:03] Dr. Sue Morter: And when I'm splatted, you know, when I'm all [00:48:05] dispersed in my survivor, you know, uh, my survivorship. And so [00:48:10] then we move into, um, another code that recognizes that when [00:48:15] we recognize these frequencies within ourselves, the precious, the rare, [00:48:20] the intimate, the, the, the energies that we think are weak. That we [00:48:25] have marginalized, we're just gonna bring them back and take a look at 'em and feel into them.
[00:48:29] Dr. Sue Morter: [00:48:30] And people begin healing automatically simply because they're starting to [00:48:35] vibrate internally. They're starting to dial into the radio station where [00:48:40] wholeness exists, and we've pushed it aside in our tendency to [00:48:45] survive to in, you know, be locked into fight or flight, doing so and so. [00:48:50] We move into, you know, a code of taking aligned right actions, things that are [00:48:55] true to us, to, to allow the enhancement of this true self [00:49:00] rather than strategizing for the competitive edge.
[00:49:02] Dr. Sue Morter: Mm. And what ends up happening is [00:49:05] we end up unfolding in a way that is unwavering, that is. [00:49:10] Steeped in wisdom that is steeped in the deep truth of who we are and what we're [00:49:15] doing here. So we're able to make decisions in those hot moments that aren't [00:49:20] fear-based. And when we stop making fear-based decisions, we start [00:49:25] living actually for the first time.
[00:49:27] Dr. Taz: So in the book, you walk the reader through [00:49:30] these different codes.
[00:49:30] Dr. Sue Morter: Yes.
[00:49:31] Dr. Taz: And through this journey and coming back into self, [00:49:35] it's not fair to ask this question, but I'm gonna ask it anyways. Is there a timeline? For [00:49:40] somebody when they start this journey, like, what can they expect?
[00:49:44] Dr. Sue Morter: Yeah. You [00:49:45] know, they're, I tried to put everything in there because I know the impatient person who's like, okay, you know, I'll [00:49:50] give you what's going on.
[00:49:50] Dr. Sue Morter: I'll give you a crack, I'll give you 24 hours.
[00:49:51] Dr. Taz: Right, exactly.
[00:49:53] Dr. Sue Morter: I'll give you a crack.
[00:49:54] Dr. Taz: Three seconds.
[00:49:54] Dr. Sue Morter: [00:49:55] So and so, I know that in a high paced world, you know, we need immediately [00:50:00] results. And so I put practices in the book that show people what to do in a hot moment. [00:50:05] Do this. And if you do that, you're gonna see, oh.
[00:50:07] Dr. Sue Morter: There's a shift. I get it. I can feel it, [00:50:10] and then you'll give it a little more, um, opportunity. And there are other [00:50:15] practices in there that you can do while you're doing the dishes, while you're cleaning the house, while [00:50:20] you're, um, you know, whatever, whatever you're doing, living life. They're designed to [00:50:25] be, to be utilized and, and explored while you're living your life so you don't have to carve an [00:50:30] hour aside.
[00:50:30] Dr. Sue Morter: Right. You know, to do this every day, sit on a quarter.
[00:50:32] Dr. Taz: Yeah.
[00:50:32] Dr. Sue Morter: And uh, and if you want to, [00:50:35] you know, it will enhance even more, but people get results immediately. [00:50:40] And the longer or deeper they go into some of the practices that are in the book. Of course, as with [00:50:45] anything, the more we devote our attention to it, the bigger it's gonna grow.
[00:50:48] Dr. Sue Morter: Mm. If we devote our [00:50:50] attention to the stress in our life, the more it grows. If we devote our attention to the solutions of that are [00:50:55] inherent in our system, the more it's gonna amplify and magnify, and the more we will feel those [00:51:00] experiences. And so I have people that have been, you know, it's, it's a lifestyle that one can [00:51:05] entrain themselves to live into.
[00:51:07] Dr. Sue Morter: And. It is also something [00:51:10] that, that people can use for some quick fixes here and there in the moments. But, but [00:51:15] here's what usually happens. People realize, you know, I did that thing she said, and it did work, [00:51:20] and I got it. So, you know, maybe I'll pick up that book this weekend. And then they do and they read a little bit more [00:51:25] and they just start to find their, their way in to [00:51:30] themselves.
[00:51:30] Dr. Sue Morter: And that's the point, right? Yeah. And, and so if we, if we can just, you know, [00:51:35] give it a. Crack, it begins to flood the space.
[00:51:39] Dr. Taz: What are you, [00:51:40] what are you hoping people will take away from the book?
[00:51:43] Dr. Sue Morter: That they discover [00:51:45] who they really are.
[00:51:46] Dr. Taz: Mm.
[00:51:46] Dr. Sue Morter: That they discover they have what it takes. That they are [00:51:50] made to generate their own path, that they're not supposed to [00:51:55] search for their true path.
[00:51:57] Dr. Sue Morter: They're supposed to be able to feel and [00:52:00] sense and generate their true path. They're, they're, they are original medicine. [00:52:05] Uh, they are.
[00:52:05] Dr. Taz: And then what would you say to somebody today listening who might be fighting a chronic [00:52:10] disease or has a new diagnosis? Or has a family member that they're [00:52:15] fighting for, what would you tell them?
[00:52:16] Dr. Sue Morter: Yes. So in a moment's time, you can stop [00:52:20] the momentum of a runaway train In a moment's time, you reach up and you pull that little line, and [00:52:25] all of a sudden the train starts to slow down. And the moment that that happens, we're moving from [00:52:30] this dis, disregulated, disoriented, chaotic version of [00:52:35] ourselves into and into and into more and more.
[00:52:38] Dr. Sue Morter: A deep sense of [00:52:40] stillness and wisdom that will be the healer that we turn on. The, [00:52:45] the thing that I know is that this very essence that we seek for just reprieve [00:52:50] becomes the animated healer within that we've been seeking. It is the [00:52:55] rest of the story that the protective or performing personality cannot [00:53:00] generate.
[00:53:00] Dr. Sue Morter: We have to surrender that one into something else. The reason it's difficult to [00:53:05] surrender is that we don't know who we are underneath that. What's, what am I gonna be if I'm [00:53:10] not hanging onto that? Right.
[00:53:11] Dr. Taz: Right.
[00:53:11] Dr. Sue Morter: And so what this book is doing is cultivating what is [00:53:15] underneath that so that when you let go, you immediately feel that you're buoyant [00:53:20] and that you're caught by the, the true version of yourself without feeling [00:53:25] like you're just scrambling in the dark, uh, you know, on your own.
[00:53:29] Dr. Sue Morter: It's quite the [00:53:30] opposite of that. We start to feel super
[00:53:31] Dr. Taz: connected. So fascinating. Could. Talk about this forever or for [00:53:35] anyone interested or ready to go on this journey, where can they find the book? Where they, where can they [00:53:40] find you?
[00:53:40] Dr. Sue Morter: Oh, the book is where all, you know, books are sold and all of the all [00:53:45] and uh, and we also have it on my website.
[00:53:48] Dr. Sue Morter: So then, and, and if someone [00:53:50] purchases from our website, we can offer them. Additional support courses and you know, [00:53:55] things that come, bonuses that come with the purchase of the book, just to, you know, guide. Because I know [00:54:00] this conversation is very, very important for people to know that they're supported and that they don't have [00:54:05] to, you know, dive in wholeheartedly, but if they just edge their way in, start [00:54:10] somewhere.
[00:54:10] Dr. Sue Morter: Start somewhere. Yeah. With a little bit, uh, things begin to open and shift for a whole new. New [00:54:15] reality, so,
[00:54:15] Dr. Taz: well, I think it's an important part. I've talked a lot about the five body model where your [00:54:20] energy, you know, is a part of the healing journey and it needs to be accounted for. You know, [00:54:25] when we think about all the different aspects of health, you know, so I feel like this needs [00:54:30] to be in the medical model.
[00:54:31] Dr. Taz: We need to be thinking about it, we need to be assessing it, we need to be asking the [00:54:35] questions about it. Mm-hmm. Because it's hard to get people to fully heal and to, and to get them where they need to [00:54:40] be. You know, regardless of what they're dealing with. If we're gonna ignore this and kind of push [00:54:45] this off to the side.
[00:54:45] Dr. Taz: So thank you so much for being here today. Oh my gosh, I appreciate it. [00:54:50] And, uh, I wanna ask you, you've mentioned it probably four or five times, you've [00:54:55] probably mastered this at this point, but what makes you whole,
[00:54:58] Dr. Sue Morter: uh, you know. [00:55:00] On the edge always. I'm always looking for a deeper version of self. [00:55:05] Yeah. There is.
[00:55:05] Dr. Sue Morter: Yes, I have. I have a certain level of mastery with this. Mm-hmm. That allows me to feel [00:55:10] so much more at peace. I slept on the floor of my closet growing up as a kid. Wow. That's how terrified I was. I didn't [00:55:15] want. I just wanted to look in one direction to make sure I was safe.
[00:55:17] Dr. Taz: Yeah.
[00:55:18] Dr. Sue Morter: And, uh, the fact that [00:55:20] I'm, you know, uh, highly functioning and out in the world and helping, you know, [00:55:25] millions of people is, is confounding to my mind.
[00:55:29] Dr. Taz: Mm-hmm.
[00:55:29] Dr. Sue Morter: In terms of [00:55:30] how did that happen.
[00:55:31] Dr. Taz: Yeah.
[00:55:31] Dr. Sue Morter: And so by sharing these, these things, it is, [00:55:35] uh, I know, uh, a way for people to find their wholeness for me. [00:55:40] What. Makes me feel whole is when I find another [00:55:45] thing that triggers me and I know what to do with it. And [00:55:50] I am blessed by that very trigger when I do the work that's in this [00:55:55] book.
[00:55:55] Dr. Taz: Mm.
[00:55:55] Dr. Sue Morter: And when I. No yet another day, uh, [00:56:00] that that is unfolding in and developing my ability to do that. It [00:56:05] generates a sense of wellbeing and okayness because I know that no matter what [00:56:10] happens, uh, I'm gonna be fine. I'm totally, totally here [00:56:15] enjoying and celebrating life and knowing that. Nothing is bigger than [00:56:20] what we, that we, what we are faced with.
[00:56:22] Dr. Sue Morter: So
[00:56:22] Dr. Taz: amazing. It's a great job. Well, it's been [00:56:25] wonderful talking to you about this. Thank you for, lemme try that again. Thank you for taking the time to come [00:56:30] here and be on the show today, and for everybody else watching and listening, remember we post new [00:56:35] episodes every week. We'll see you next time. Before you go, take a second to reflect on [00:56:40] what stood out for you today.
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