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Need a dose of creativity and accountability? Hosts Monica and Candace are prioritizing ART and talking about it in a real way. One take, no script, and no filters… just two humans inviting listeners in for a fun weekly chat about what they’re making now and what is inspiring them.
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Speaker 2
Hello. Hello. Hello and welcome to. As we art.
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Speaker 1
Wow. This is episode.
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Speaker 2
2022.
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Speaker 1
Even.
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Speaker 2
Are we a new decade? Yes, 20. That's awesome.
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Speaker 1
Welcome to your 20s.
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Speaker 2
I'm Monica.
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Speaker 1
I'm Candice.
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Speaker 2
And we have a guest.
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Speaker 1
We do? It's a snake.
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Speaker 2
He or she? They. They don't have a name, but we're going to talk about that on this week's episode of As We Art. So we're here talking about the art we're working on right now. And whatever's inspiring us this week. My hair. Okay. I just got out of the shower. I had.
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Speaker 1
The hair.
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Speaker 2
I got to tuck the hair. Okay. We're really glad you're here. Seriously welcome. If you are new. We're so happy you found us. We are a podcast. We're also on YouTube, so if you're already watching us on YouTube, awesome. You're getting the visuals.
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Speaker 1
Yes.
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Speaker 2
If you're on the podcast, you don't know what our guest looks like, but it is a snake, a tall snake, a lamp in the form of a brass floor lamp.
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Speaker 1
Yes, we have to address the snake. Elephant in the room.
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Speaker 2
There is an elephant as well. Somewhere behind the plant. But let's talk about this snake when we talk about art. How's it going? It's going.
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Speaker 1
It's going. This week is going? It has begun.
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Speaker 2
It's also June. And for for for, you know, to just to follow along with the awesome tradition of June, we're going to say happy pride.
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Speaker 1
Happy pride.
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Speaker 2
I will sit for those who celebrate. But it's not like.
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Speaker 1
If you don't celebrate, we're not talking to you.
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Speaker 2
It's not like a celebrate. It's not like a specific thing you celebrate. It's just pride. We have pride year round for being in the queer community, of course, but, the the.
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Speaker 1
June unity.
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Speaker 2
There are some. You see a few more rainbow flags. Some corporations change their logos a little bit. Not as much as in the past. Yeah, I think the current administration and all the permission that Nazis and racists and bigots have right now is kind of quelling some quelling. Is that the right word? Is it's kind of keeping some people quiet?
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Speaker 1
Well, I also think those corporations didn't really care in the first place, but that's a whole wormhole we can go in.
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Speaker 2
To the ones that used to change their logo.
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Speaker 1
They just did it for, you know, trend for customers. Anyway, corporations don't care about you. That's my $0.02.
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Speaker 2
But. Yeah. So happy June. Happy summer. For those in that part of the world. It's winter for some parts of the world.
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Speaker 1
Yes. Almost winter. Yeah.
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Speaker 2
Yeah. So we kicked off our summer. I mean, our June by going to the beach this week. That was nice.
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Speaker 1
It's usually not super warm here in June. Like the water's cold. It's kind of hovering near the 70s. It usually doesn't get warm enough to go to the beach, like, till the end of June, beginning of July. But we lucked out.
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Speaker 2
As the air temp. Yes, the water temp. Yeah. So word.
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Speaker 1
Temp is. Brr.
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Speaker 2
Really cold. But we went in saltwater. We're in the, I don't know, North Atlantic whatever New England part of the United States of America. So we went to the beach. We went swimming. It was wonderful just to have that day in that time. And we've both been dealing with a little bit of, a little bit of health issues this week.
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Speaker 2
I have a, I'm if I'm sitting awkwardly I just want to explain I have some back issues from my lower spine, from an injury when I was in my early 20s and subsequent surgeries, pretty bad spine issues. And I can go months and months without, a flare up and then something random will wrench it. So Candace had to carry in this heavy brass lamp for the podcast today because I'm not lifting anything today.
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Speaker 1
Yes.
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Speaker 2
So being in the saltwater is really nice, in any body of water, because you just feel so light. And I love swimming, I love floating, and it's just a nice relief to be in the water when you have some any time, but especially when I have some back pain.
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Speaker 1
Yeah. Take the pressure off. Feels nice.
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Speaker 2
Yeah. And you're, How are you doing?
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Speaker 1
I'm having some lovely health issues as well. I'm having some weird, like, visual problems. I went to an eye doctor because I was like, oh, maybe I need my glasses. Prescription updated. But that hasn't helped. And, I'm having some migraines, so I don't know if it's, like, screen related or what, but we're digging. Yeah.
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Speaker 2
You know, the doctor said it was from too much screen time because, Candice is 9 to 5. Is on a computer screen. So it's been it's been good to kind of like we usually don't talk about our health on this, on this podcast, but we're mentioning it because it's relevant. We're both dealing with stuff and it affects our art.
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Speaker 2
So we we work so hard to make a schedule that works for our art. So we intentionally put time aside, hours aside every day, to be artistic and creative, which is great. We're still doing that. But we have to modify a little bit sometimes if there's an issue. So. Yeah. How are you doing out there and listener land.
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Speaker 2
Do you make any modifications for any health issues you happen to be going through? If you feel like sharing? I know it's personal, but you know, in general, if you have ocular migraines from screen time or things that are a little jumpy visually, let us know if something worked for you. And if you happen to have lower spine chronic pain that sometimes flares up, and something works for you, let us know.
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Speaker 2
Or any health issue you want to share? Yeah, it's nice to know. All right. People are out there dealing with all sorts of shit. You never know. So.
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Speaker 1
And everyone just kind of deals with it silently. So. Yeah, we never you never really know what someone else is going through. So be nice. Be nice.
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Speaker 2
Yeah, yeah, yeah. So we're giving ourselves just some extra room, extra grace. Just to kind of like, be, and go through it, like. Yeah, sometimes we have to go to a doctor, get some professional opinions, but just kind of like trial and error, go through it. See how you're doing. So let's talk about art because we were still able to be creative this week.
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Speaker 2
And let's start with this lovely lamp. I personally would not call this lamp lovely. I apologize in advance if the person who owns this lamp watches our podcast. That could happen. I don't know if she does. She might. It's just not something I would purchase for my decor. I'm not really a snake reptile type of person. If you can't see this, you're missing out.
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Speaker 2
It's a floor lamp, very heavy. It's brass. And at the bottom on the floor is a coiled snake tail. It goes straight up as a snake like scales on one side, belly on the other, and then wraps into a spiral where the shade, the lamp shade goes. But the head of the snake comes to a point with a very long extended sharp tongue, a forked tongue sticking way out here.
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Speaker 2
Yeah, I hope you can see that. So what? The reason why we have this lamp, is because a few years back, this person reached out to us. And as stained glass artist, this person reached out to us and said, I have a lamp that I love. And the shade, the glass shade has cracked. I got a replacement shade.
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Speaker 2
It cracked again. Would you be able to create a stained glass shade for it? We're hoping we can do it.
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Speaker 1
We we can do it. It's just going to take some engineering. We don't typically make 3D glass things. I mean, occasionally Monica will do a sculpture. But like that functionality of having to, really make sure, like, the dimensions are correct and it fits in the lamp and you get everything flush so it doesn't sit weird and, that's not something that we like, specialize in, but we can definitely do it.
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Speaker 1
It's just going to take us a little longer than it would take someone who's a little more seasoned.
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Speaker 2
So that's true. This person is not in a rush. They're giving us all the time we need.
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Speaker 1
She's super patient. Yeah, we appreciate it.
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Speaker 2
And we're going to work with her on designs, color scheme, abstract, something more literal. Like we have options. It just has to fit in this circular spiral snake neck and head and that tongue. It's wicked sharp, by the way.
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Speaker 1
Yeah. That tongue could kill somebody.
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Speaker 2
So the lamp shade needs to sit on the space, obviously, and have room for a bulb to go in and then flare out and up. So we we've been just in the beginning phases of starting to talk to the customer. We picked up the lamp from their house. We are starting to talk about ideas and themes. And then the next step, which for those of you who follow along, I usually don't take this kind of time to make, a very specific pattern and plan.
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Speaker 2
I like more abstract, organic things that come together as I go. Can't do that with this. This is my project. I will be at the helm here. The creative part of it, Candice obviously is going to help with the logistics and the engineering and making sure that lampshades sit flush so.
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Speaker 1
It fits.
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Speaker 2
And fits within this space.
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Speaker 1
Dimensions are a little strange.
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Speaker 2
So, yeah. And I've already sketched out a few ideas and sent them back and forth to the client. So once we have landed on it, we'll share with you what the plan is. But the next step is to make a cardboard model. So that I get the exact measurements, know the how it fits the shape and the flare of the shade will be really interesting, very, very challenging for me as an artist.
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Speaker 2
But also like, there's science involved. Math, physics, geometry. I don't know. Yeah. But the other thing, because this is a commission, this isn't something I can just do on my own and make whatever colors I want, whatever design I want. The cardboard model will also have, I will have different choices on the outside, like on white paper.
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Speaker 2
I'll of, with colors of shapes and designs. So that takes a lot longer. And commissions are really, really tricky and hard and advanced. And I know some of you who listen, remember, are saying we no longer take commissions and we haven't for a long time. Yep. The last commission I did was for a local business in early 2025.
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Speaker 2
They wanted a model of their businesses, old fashioned red building, and it came out awesome. And it was a big model of their building, which they have hanging in the window. But that was the last time we did a commission, because after that, we just really want to work on our own, our own things. So you might be asking, why did we take this?
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Speaker 1
Because it's a family friend.
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Speaker 2
She asked a few years ago.
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Speaker 1
She did it and it's had a waiting list so long we couldn't get to it.
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Speaker 2
And it's a family friend here, so we we I'm excited for the challenge. We'll keep you posted. But we wanted to show you this is one of the art things we're into this week. Yeah. The beginning phases.
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Speaker 1
Yeah. So that's that's this week. Yeah. That's great. What area do you think this lamp is from?
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Speaker 2
I'm not good at that. I mean, it's really interesting. She said she got it at the Smithsonian, I don't know.
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Speaker 1
My guess is the 20s. Oh, you think.
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Speaker 2
It's a replica or is it from the 20s?
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Speaker 1
I think it's from the 1920s. That's just a guess, though. Okay, it's only because with, like, the Art Deco and kind of, elaborate and jazz age type, they got really into, like, Egyptian motifs.
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Speaker 2
Would you call this Egyptian?
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Speaker 1
That would be my guess, is that it's supposed to be like a black asp or something.
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Speaker 2
A what asp.
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Speaker 1
It's a type of snake.
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Speaker 2
Okay. Do you guys know this? Are there snake people out there?
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Speaker 1
We in it. So if I sound smart. Yeah, but I have no idea what I'm talking to. I'm just guessing. I believe so, yeah.
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Speaker 2
I, I was thinking I'm so bad at, like, styles, I don't know, I was thinking it's like Asian.
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Speaker 1
Could be.
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Speaker 2
It's because I saw a I saw a snake that looked like this when I had the opportunity to travel to India. But I don't know, I don't know, I think of Asian, but it doesn't. It doesn't matter. This this client is this person. This friend of the family is very excited to get her lamp back. However many months it takes with a shade on it that's glass and one of the things if you.
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Speaker 2
If you're out there. I have made a few, standalone glass lamps out of stained glass. You always want to use an LED bulb because they give off way less heat than standard or traditional light bulbs. And the other thing to keep in mind is you need air. There has to be airflow to the lamp so it doesn't get overheated inside.
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Speaker 2
I made.
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Speaker 1
This will crack a.
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Speaker 2
Few. Yeah, let it get overheated. I made that mistake. I made a cube lamp like a table lamp shaped like a cube. And which was fine. And then I put a lid on it with glass, and that was not fine. As soon as I put the glass, top it, it overheated inside. So I learned if you make a lamp, make sure it's open air or air underneath, make sure this airflow.
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Speaker 1
Preferably on top because heat rises. So it'll go out the top okay.
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Speaker 2
See this is why we're a good team. I can't wait to start cutting glass and putting it together. But there's so many steps before then. So this will be a really good test of my patience. And it has to fit exactly right. It's going to be amazing. What else did we do for art this week? Candace, you helped me tremendously with something artistic.
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Speaker 1
What was it? It was a lot of fun, actually. And I just have to say, like before I state what it is, I'm very proud of Monica. Like it was, it was a lot of fun. Monica has finished a draft of the play that she has been writing, and we got to go through it page by page. I read it aloud so that we could do some editing, make sure things were grammatically correct.
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Speaker 1
And also just notice if like, anything sounded weird or was hard to understand. Or if words were like used more than once in a sentence, and it was a lot of fun. It was really like emotional to read through it. It felt kind of like a magical moment in time and space and life. So really excellent.
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Speaker 1
Yeah, yeah.
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Speaker 2
What do you.
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Speaker 1
Mean? It's definitely a moment where, like, I will always look back on it and remember it. You just, you know, you know, how, you know, sometimes when you're in those moments you're lucky enough to like, know that this is going to be like a core memory.
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Speaker 2
Oh, my God, that's so nice. And just for a little context, and thank you for saying that.
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Speaker 1
It's amazing.
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Speaker 2
I have been working on a script of this play for two months, and I have been the only one looking at it, so I typed it. I wrote it, I kept going back, working on it. This, that is that is my process and I've never written a play. So this is a first and I am ready to send a draft out.
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Speaker 2
I sent, like a outline to this theater, local art community center to see if I could use their, black box experimental theater to actually stage the play. I'm still waiting to hear back, but I want it now that I have the script done. And I had sent a draft. I really wanted Candace to be involved at this point, and she graciously, slowly, and patiently took her time, not just read it out loud, line by line, which was so helpful to hear the words.
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Speaker 2
I didn't say anything, I just listened and she put notes in the margins, which is great. So I can go back easily and okay, I spelled that word wrong or yeah, I repeated a word in the same paragraph. It was really helpful. It was also really emotional for me on the inside, because to hear the words I've been creating silently, at my computer to hear them out loud.
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Speaker 2
And Candace wasn't acting. She was just reading it, like, as an editor would. So even that was enough to be like, oh my God, this this is such a strange moment because it's the beginning of something. It's a launching point. I want this play to be out there. I want this play to be staged. This is like an art form I never thought I would get into.
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Speaker 2
I don't have a theater background whatsoever, but I just picture this scene of these two women in a prison cell having a conversation. That's the gist. So we're talking small cast, very simple, simplistic set design and, easy premise. It's not a musical. There's not a lot of movement and lighting changes or sound changes. It's it's just a conversation between two women.
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Speaker 2
But it's, I think, a really important conversation. And I felt like the this is so corny and cheesy to say, and I hate when writers say this, but it felt like it wrote itself.
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Speaker 1
It felt it's I think it's great. It's I, I've said it before, but I think that's why they tell people write what you know, because then you're not trying to pull things out of thin air and really struggling with like, how would this person say this? Or how would these two people relate? Because you've been in that situation like you, it doesn't have to be the exact situation, but it does.
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Speaker 1
It probably feels like it kind of rewrites itself because of that.
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Speaker 2
It it felt like that very much. I mean, I wanted to have some realist, a lot of realistic elements to what it's like to be in a prison cell. Okay. But I also wanted some themes and some important, meaningful. Topics to be woven in, which were based on a lot of things I really did talk about, you know, at that time.
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Speaker 2
But also, I wanted some things that I've come to know of, come to learn, come to realize, about how and I'm sure a lot of people can relate to this on some level. We've all felt silenced in our lives at one time or another. I would think anyone, anyone for any reason. At different times we have felt like we have to make ourselves smaller.
00:19:40:03 - 00:20:06:10
Speaker 2
We have to make ourselves more quiet. And this was just almost a joy to write, because it's these two women using their voice and saying what they want to say. And in a in a place that's oppressive, in a place that wants to keep them, really downtrodden. So I think, I think it would make a good play.
00:20:06:13 - 00:20:35:24
Speaker 2
It's not a comedy. It does have a little bit of a twist ending. But I am really glad that it's the first draft. I feel really good about it. And so now the next step is to figure out how to stage the play and where that might be. And Candace and I talked about that. You know, if you're if, if you've been through this and you've written something and you want it out there, sometimes you just might have to just do it yourself.
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Speaker 2
I have this this vision that it would be at a local theater to start with. But if I don't hear back or if it's not like getting someone as excited as I would hope, like I would, whoever makes the decisions on what plays get read, I could I could just like do it and film it and like figure out a way to do it ourselves just to have it be so fun.
00:21:00:22 - 00:21:01:24
Speaker 2
Yeah. Wouldn't that be fun?
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Speaker 1
I think it'd be great. Just find some space that somebody will loan to us. You know, it can be a space that can have people watch or not, but we'll film it and yeah, yeah.
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Speaker 2
Really simplistic. I just want it like out there. So that's where we are with the play. The play is called Doing Time with Virginia Woolf. And it's two women in a prison cell. One of them happens to be Virginia Woolf. So those two, getting this lamp project started and getting that play to the next stage.
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Speaker 2
That's a pun to the next step in the process. But that was our week and it was a big one. It felt really good. It really did. Yeah. I already mentioned the ocean, the inspiration. But.
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Speaker 1
But also on the pride month note happy pride to Virginia Woolf.
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Speaker 2
Yes.
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Speaker 1
She. Yeah, she's on our team.
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Speaker 2
I know, married to a man. But didn't didn't hide the fact that, her really close friend, she had more than she had different relationships with different people. But,
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Speaker 1
Sackville-West. Yes. Right.
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Speaker 2
Her name, the last name was escaping me. Also married to a male writer. They're both married to husbands who have read. They they really did connect. They found each other and they could be with each other. And they wrote letters to each other and it's inspiring. I'm also wearing Frida Kahlo.
00:22:34:27 - 00:22:48:12
Speaker 1
Which? Avila. Vargas. Yes. Yeah. They were lovers. So Chavela Vargas is an amazing, Mexican ranchera musician. If you haven't listened to her, she's. She'll knock your socks off.
00:22:48:14 - 00:22:58:19
Speaker 2
That's. That is so awesome. We, you know, we've been listening to her lately, and it didn't occur to me that pride month. And we've also been listening this week.
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Speaker 1
To Bessie Bessie.
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Speaker 2
Smith. Bessie Smith's music is incredible. And it's the olds sound from the recordings from the 20s and the 30s during prohibition and the way they recorded it. It's so beautiful. Her songs are so good, but also was in relationships to both men and women did. That's so cool. That is not a prerequisite for music in our house, but it.
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Speaker 1
Is now. It's gay or nothing.
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Speaker 2
Yeah, we were inspired. Yeah. Listening to Bessie Smith, we had what's the film we watched recently? Is it just called Bessie?
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Speaker 1
Yeah, Bessie. Queen Latifah plays Bessie Smith, and I believe she sings most of the songs herself, if not all of them. And she killed it. Yeah, it was really good to watch her. She's so talented.
00:23:48:29 - 00:24:05:18
Speaker 2
I love Queen Latifah. She nailed that role. Yeah. If you get a chance to see the movie Bessie, it's streaming. If you get a chance to listen to Bessie Smith's music, we highly recommend it. That has been inspiring this year. Just these women going outside the box. Being outside the.
00:24:05:18 - 00:24:10:23
Speaker 1
Box. Which box? Outside a box.
00:24:10:23 - 00:24:24:04
Speaker 2
You know, your way around a box? Yes. But artists and women who think differently and aren't afraid to express themselves be themselves, be with who they love, and make amazing music and art. So. And writing also.
00:24:24:04 - 00:24:36:20
Speaker 1
Ma Rainey, the singer, is in the movie Bessie because Bessie toured with Ma Rainey and Ma Rainey is slept with women as well.
00:24:36:23 - 00:24:42:01
Speaker 2
Yeah. And, you know, openly this was like, okay. And this was the night the teens.
00:24:42:03 - 00:24:44:21
Speaker 1
Yeah, it was during the vaudeville era and yeah.
00:24:44:22 - 00:24:45:19
Speaker 2
Long over a hundred.
00:24:45:19 - 00:25:02:16
Speaker 1
Years ago. Not at all. Yeah. Yeah. That was supposed to be a really good movie. I have not watched it, but, I believe Netflix maybe. Or somebody made a movie with, Viola Davis as Ma Rainey, and it's called Ma Rainey's Black Bottom.
00:25:02:18 - 00:25:06:07
Speaker 2
Oh, I want to see that. Yeah. I love Viola Davis as work.
00:25:06:07 - 00:25:07:07
Speaker 1
She's amazing.
00:25:07:09 - 00:25:28:10
Speaker 2
Oh, this is this has been fun. Yeah. So just to recap, we're we're fine. We're just having some health stuff. We're excited to be creative and get our hands dirty with some ideas and things we're working on. It feels really good. And keep, keep in mind, we really would love to know what you're working on. What do you what are you working on?
00:25:28:10 - 00:25:35:28
Speaker 2
What's creative? What are you trying that's different? What projects are you starting or finishing? Anywhere you are in the process? We'd love to know.
00:25:36:00 - 00:25:47:12
Speaker 1
What queer artists are you consuming as far as visual or listening to or consuming or consuming? Yes. And your iron tongue of the vaudeville snake. Okay.
00:25:47:15 - 00:26:03:22
Speaker 2
We would like to know. Yeah. If you're celebrating pride or whatever you're doing to support queer artists, as Candace said, let us know. And also, just what's inspiring you, what kinds of things are you doing? You're going listen to watching, to watching, to.
00:26:03:22 - 00:26:06:01
Speaker 1
Watching to what you watch and to.
00:26:06:06 - 00:26:23:22
Speaker 2
What you're watching, to, we'd love to know. So put it in the comments on YouTube or on Instagram. If you're not following us on Instagram, be sure and see that because we'll post pictures of the lamp, the snake lamp, but also other art that we're working on and, things that have inspired us.
00:26:23:24 - 00:26:34:12
Speaker 1
So go listen to queer musicians. Yeah, we talked about Bessie Smith, Ma Rainey, Chavela Vargas. Yeah, Billie Holiday was queer. Like, go check them all out.
00:26:34:12 - 00:26:49:06
Speaker 2
Yes, yes. Do it. All right. We're so glad you're here. If you have any questions, make sure you text them or email to us or comment in YouTube because we will answer your questions. I didn't check this week. I'm sure there are quite. I'll get some questions for next.
00:26:49:11 - 00:26:52:09
Speaker 1
So we'll find your questions.
00:26:52:11 - 00:26:55:21
Speaker 2
We love your questions, but sometimes it takes us a few episodes to get to it.
00:26:55:21 - 00:27:07:03
Speaker 1
Don't worry. Yeah, we do the recording, we have fun and then we forget to look at the comments sometimes and we're really sorry. It's just because we're not great at this yet.
00:27:07:06 - 00:27:27:18
Speaker 2
We are great at this. But here's to to that point. We're doing it, organically, right? We don't have a script. We don't have a plan. We give you one take, one edit, no edits. Yeah. One take. This is it. Episode 20 in the books. And we're psyched. Were psyched to be here. You inspire us, too. And we love that you're watching and listening.
00:27:27:18 - 00:27:28:07
Speaker 2
It means a lot.
00:27:28:14 - 00:27:29:12
Speaker 1
Yeah.
00:27:29:14 - 00:27:31:07
Speaker 2
So we'll see you next time.
00:27:31:08 - 00:27:33:10
Speaker 1
Thanks for being here and showing up.
00:27:33:16 - 00:27:36:19
Speaker 2
Yeah. All right. See you next week. Bye bye.