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Hey everybody welcome back to the HVAC JoyLab podcast.
I'm your host Dr.
John Scherke.
This podcast focuses on creating more and more conversations about what optimizes life for an
HVAC technician.
My goal is to produce the most helpful content available for techs full stop.
Today you're going to hear once again from trainer and health advocate for techs Adam Coolman.
Previous guest Justin Freebearn asked if we would do a podcast on
knees.
How to make them last and how to work through all the issues that techs have with their
knees.
And for you listeners if you have topics that you would like to hear more about go to
operationslaboratory.com
operations laboratory is my technician recruiting company and under the
connect tab you can request a podcast topic.
I'll do all I can to get you the best state of
craft answers.
Okay let's get started.
All right everybody welcome back to the HVAC JoyLab podcast.
Dr.
John Scherke here with my good friend
Adam Coolman the trainer extraordinaire with some good words today for us about knees.
This is a topic by request from a technician in Indianapolis who said man I'd really love
to hear more from Adam on what his thoughts are about knees.
Adam I just talked to a technician
from Sacramento California late last week.
Maybe it was early this week.
But anyway he said I'm 42
and I had to take a different role in the company because I just could not crawl around anymore.
And it's a very very common problem for technicians.
A lot of repetitive use a lot of hands and knees.
So Adam just kind of once you start with give us a little overview of your thoughts about this.
Yeah so very good question John and thank you for having me back on again man I really
appreciate it.
I love giving your audience some good tips and good information on how to live a
life a better life we'll just put it that way.
That's right.
You know you can approach the whole
knee topic in a thousand different ways.
You know I was just telling you that before the podcast
started but when it comes to when it comes to the HVAC techs and what it is that they do on a
daily basis there are specific things that we can look at and there are specific things that
that are within their control to change if that makes sense.
Yeah so if I were to say like if I could
guess the best that I possibly can without being an HVAC tech myself like there's about five to
seven different ways that you can cause or have knee pain issues based on the job that you're
that you have.
So the very first one very obvious one repetitive movements so that's the kneeling
that's the squatting that's the crawling that's the climbing that's the twisting around and pivoting
and all that crazy stuff you know.
Yep.
Second one that I would say also lends to it would be
incorrect biomechanics due to muscular deficiencies if that makes sense.
Sure.
If I could dive into
that for just a second what that what I would say for that is like you know think about one of those
earlier podcasts that we did where there's always a reciprocal to the main muscle group that you
have so like your bicep the reciprocal to that is your tricep right biceps will flex the arm triceps
will extend it when you think about your knees specifically the muscular complex above your
knees your quadriceps not on the opposite side you have your hamstrings and also your gluteum
gluteus maximus and gluteus minimus.
A lot of times in today's world we have very overactive
quads we'll just put it that way very underactive hamstrings very underactive glutes your body
needs these muscular relationships to be in harmony with each other and that one isn't
overdeveloped over the other if that makes sense.
Okay.
Okay.
What does happen though when you have
a job where you have a lot of manual labor but then you also combine that with a society that's
very sedentary when you're not doing manual labor you get very quad dominant but you get very glute
and hamstring inact if that makes interesting.
Interesting.
Yeah.
So you're getting a muscular
group that has four muscles to its structure hence the reason why it's called quads right and then
you have everything on the other side which is a little bit weak so you're having a biomechanical
relationship there that is a little bit overpowering for one muscle group and the other group cannot
compensate for that.
What happens then without a lot of medical jargon is that you start getting
more strain on structures than it should be and what I mean by specific structure is your
patella tendon you know what I mean it's that massive tendon that stretches all the way over your knee
and attaches more to the bottom of your knee more in the shin area so on and so forth and your quads
all attach into that tendon so when they're pulling so hard and they're very overactive and
everything on the opposite side is very inactive you're getting a lot of strain on that tendon
you're getting a lot more tension in there as well and then based on those quadriceps muscles if
you have one quad part of that quadricep muscle complex that's more developed or more tight
than the other and start pulling that tendon over to the left or to the right and it can start tracking
them properly over your knee you can get knee pain that way so that's just kind of a I know it's a
little bit of an in-depth example but that's what I mean by muscular deficiency biomechanics being
altered because of that if that makes sense.
Yeah very interesting yeah thank you.
Another one
that's very common is just not wearing any knee protection when you're on the job specifically
when you're kneeling because you have the entire weight of your body resting on your knees and your
kneecaps and you have something in there called bursa sacs they're also they're little fluid field
sacs that help cushion the friction we'll just say that when you're moving when you're constantly
repetitively putting you know pressure on your kneecap which is putting pressure on the bursa sac
those can burst or those can get inflamed and then you're going to start feeling like you have
a bubble in your knee I've had that happen many times before because I when I would stretch
back in the day doing some stretches I would always be stretching you know kneeling on a kneecap and
you do that day in and day out you start getting bursitis so on and so forth so
some things going on there okay I would say down more towards the foundational part of your body
being your feet you can have excessive pronation what we would call in the real world is flat feet
I don't know if you've seen that job before where you see someone's feet and they're just
like squished in towards the arch part right and their ankles are kind of rolling in so on and
so forth that changes the entire biomechanic chain from the feet all the way up to your knees up to
your hips and what that can cause is an internal rotation of your knees and an internal rotation
of your hips and then you have your biomechanics completely out of whack you start you start
wearing parts of your knees and your hips in places that they shouldn't be so on and so forth
so you get knee pain and from there another one I would say is like I call this well most people
call it this um IT band syndrome so you have an IT band that runs on the side of your leg a lot of
runners have this but I also see it on like a lot of manual labor jobs too when you're walking a lot
you know what I mean this is an IT band it tends to get tight with a lot of repetitive walking and
running so you can see that commonly on the job as well for people who are you know HVAC techs
you can see it a lot for nurses who walk around a lot throughout the day as well doctors so on and
so forth it's very common in jobs where you're walking in on your feet a lot that can cause the
knee um kneecap to track improperly and also the um patella tendon to track improperly causing
knee pain as well so that's a little bit of a crazy one and then I would say I also kind of did
cover bursitis a little bit already but bursitis is definitely one that you can get and then
patella femoral pain syndrome this is pain that happens around the kneecap due to overuse
or muscular imbalances so that one kind of encompasses a lot of the things that I was
always already talking about okay so yeah I know it's a lot of different causes but these
seem to be the most applicable for this industry and for people who are repetitively on their knees
and walking and you know doing all sorts of type of stuff so interesting yeah well let's let's go
back and talk about some of those now the repetitive use one I think in general for a technician
um there's going to be times where it's necessary to crawl around um yep it just it's part of the job
and so is there you know for the technician to ask is there is there a way to reduce the
amount that you have to um now that you know it just it all depends you know there's a
realizing that every time you crawl a little bit it has a cumulative effect over time
and so the less you can do it the longer they'll last basically and so but but everybody knows if
you're a tech in the field you're gonna have to crawl around and so just being aware of that
if you can avoid it do it um it just it's it's sort of like saving money in a bank account
the less you spend it the longer it'll be there and at some point in everybody's but everybody's
body's a little different but everybody has this issue and eventually everybody's knees will
eventually go out with repetitive use and then there's uh you know so just just knowing that right
yeah but absolutely but for this next one this business of the the uh the glutes and the
the just the back of your legs let's just say that um needing to be in balance with your
quadriceps is fascinating so can you give some recommendations for I mean is it basically
if you're at the gym use those machines or like what are the exercises to balance this out
really good question John so on this one when it comes to having a certain muscular complex that is
overactive and other ones you know not as active as they should be the best way to inhibit that
and then strengthen the other ones is basically you're stretching your quads or foam rolling the
quads so that's going to start inhibiting them and telling them to chill out relax and also elongate
themselves a little bit so that way there's more there's more give if that makes sense it's not
pulling constantly on the tendon it's relaxing a little bit more allowing more bowl or give on that
tendon and then you want to obviously on the opposite end you want to strengthen those
muscles you want to wake them up you want to start creating more of those neurological
connections saying hey I need you to wake up I need you to fire a lot more often I need you to stay
more tense a lot more often I need you to start doing pulling your weight basically we'll just
put it that way so easiest way always is to go to the gym and do things that would strengthen the
back of those legs so obvious one right right away off the bat to isolate the hamstrings is
like a lying leg curl a lot of other gyms also have a standing leg curl machine which is phenomenal
and then also to strengthen the glutes good old-fashioned glute bridges are phenomenal for that
there is really they've been doing a lot of studies lately because it seems to be all the rage for
women these days to be doing a lot of glute bridges to grow the booty you know what I mean
and because of the popularity they're doing a lot of studies on it now and they're finding that
that glute bridges are one of the most effective exercises you can ever do to grow activate
and strengthen the glutes so for most people out there who don't know what that looks like I'm
honestly just going to point them in the direction of YouTube because there's a thousand great examples
on there Brett Kenteris is a phenomenal guy he is called like the glutes the glute king we'll just
call that way he has trained the who's who in the world for glutes and it's mostly ladies we'll
just put it that way but he has phenomenal instructional videos on how to do a proper
glute bridge because there is some great mechanics that go into that tilting your pelvis
in a certain way activating the glutes in a certain way but yeah I would say for most people
if you can't get into the gym we'll just put it this way you can do glute bridges at home
with body weight you mean you lay down on the floor put your feet up in a 90 degree angle
and you just squeeze your butt cheeks together and bridge up off the floor yeah if you need to do
any strengthening exercises at home for the hamstrings you can go get one of those giant
bands really thick ones a lot of crossfitters use these bands you can find them on amazon
and all you got to do is anchor that band there's something behind you like a you know like the foot
of your bed or I don't know if you have something really heavy you can anchor it wrap it around your
ankles lay down flat on your chest and then just curl your legs back towards your butt
that's the easiest way you can do it when you're at home so yeah there you go I would and I would
say too if you go to the gym I actually did this with the I go to a plant fitness here in
home where I live and they're not really trainers but they're still there and they
they know about the equipment and I just said I wasn't for this reason but I just said
tell me everything in the building that I can use for my glutes and my hamstrings and
and they showed me stuff I didn't even know was in the gym and there was a section of the gym
that was sort of like I think that's sort of supposed to be a little bit like the lady section
or something I don't I don't know but it has they have like four machines where you sit and
you just squeeze your legs together like that one yes not the abduction and adduction yeah well
then at the back of that area they had a glute machine where you just stand on one leg and it's
like you're doing like the motion you would do with push-ups with your arms you do it one leg at
a time in this machine and then man is it give you a workout and then but then they show me
other stuff you know like you know these you know the classic quadricep machine in the gym
everybody's seen that where you it's just a curl machine where you're pulling your your heels back to
your body sitting up and you know pulling the weight up that way but if you use a gym just go in and ask
say look this is i'm trying to work these areas what have you got and they'll probably show you
some things you didn't know were there absolutely trainers are always more than willing to help
out with us uh stuff like that all you got to do is ask don't don't think of them as scary
people that they're always right there to want to help trust me I used to be one of those gyms
I wanted to help okay so let's let's move on now to the issue of knee pads
I suspected we were gonna get gonna get to this topic now on this one I'm just gonna say
technicians you guys are listening I know you guys have a lot of stuff to carry around
it's very valuable to use the knee pads I know you're up in the attic I know you're outside
where it's dirty the all these knee pads will save your knees I mean they just will
and then you know I don't know that much about knee pads I don't know if you do either at them but like
like features of a knee pad of a knee pad that you know when we're what we're talking about with
knee pads we're not talking about things like elastic wraps we're talking about a hard shell
you know something like you would see it somebody who lays carpet you know putting on your knees
straps around top above and below the knee and when you're kneeling on it
the the it's cushioning you and it's got a hard edge handling the floor or the ground or the concrete
or whatever right yep so absolutely I think that the technique around knee pads I think I think
there's a lot of stuff around knee pads that is not fancy and not technical it just comes down to
am I really going to use them am I really going to carry them around with everything else
you know it's and I guess what we're just saying here is gentlemen it's worth it it's worth it yeah
take take the put them on even if you even if it feels like you're not kneeling for very long
keep them in your tool bag put them on use them because the day will come when that accumulative use
will add up and if you don't use them you may say oh shoot I don't feel it anyway it doesn't
really matter right now but it will someday it will someday my friend out in Sacramento who
had to take a different job inside the company didn't leave the company but had to take a different
job because he could not crawl around anymore and he was only 42 so you know that it's it's just
about taking care of yourself and you know don't try to be macho about it don't try to be you
know no it just takes too long all right I gotta go back to the truck and get them or whatever
use them use them yeah use them every time in this case I think the the saying an ounce of
prevention is worth a pound of cure there you go in this instance because you know when it comes to
those things it seems like so small but it is something that literally will save you because
I mean John in my career I've trained a lot of people who have had knee replacement surgery
you don't want to have it if you don't have to if you can avoid it we'll just put it that
way you mean because it is something that's pretty extensive you know you are putting something
artificial back in that spot and you're hoping that it's going to perform well you know I mean
and there's a lot of trauma that happens to the surrounding tissues and muscles when you do a
knee replacement surgery so for anybody who does the knee you know that knee protective gear
just make sure it fits well and it has a tight fit you know what I mean because the last thing
you want is for that to go sliding around or you're doing something heavy whatever it is and
you know your your kneecap slides out of there whatever it may be it it is not common but I have
heard of some people who do not have proper knee sleeves or knee wear whatever it is to dislocate
a kneecap if they're under doing a heavy load or they're twisting while they're on their knees or
just it's not fitting well and it just slides over and it's like your your kneecap gets like
caught in a groove but your knee is still going that way you know what I mean it's just not
something you want to happen so just make sure you get ones that fit the absolute best and stay
tight on your legs when you're using them and this is a classic example guys of spend the money
and get the good stuff right yeah this is the 100% this is so I know you guys I know you guys
there's so many things that you're like ah do I don't really need it I'm not worried about it
I'm fine but the problem is that once you get to a certain point you can't back out of it
you can't once your knees get to a certain point I mean there's surgeries there's certain
certain things you can do to help but once they're used up you can't go to undo that and so
you need to use this stuff before it feels painful to be on your knees and then and then of course
also after but it you know extend that time when it feels like I don't need these I can
crawl around use them then not when it hurts later absolutely absolutely prevention yeah that's
right so um talk a little bit more about the it band we we say more about that
so how should I put this the it band is a giant band of tissue that's located on the outside of your
on the outside of both legs we'll just put that way so if you look at your legs right now you're
looking at your quads and then just kind of look more towards the outside it's kind of
where the separation between your quads and your hamstrings will be so it's a it's a it's a
band of tissue that's meant for a lot of stability you know I mean it helps with stabilization of the
of the legs if you get it if it's doing its job it'll help your knees track exactly how they're
supposed to they won't internally rotate they won't externally rotate too much if that makes sense
yeah now as you're walking repetitively a lot throughout the day those bands on the side of
your legs are helping your knees track properly but they're being used a lot if that makes
sense so sometimes there's a lot of repetitive trauma there and what they'll do is they'll start
to get tight over time a lot of times when you know fascia we'll just put it this way it gets
repetitively used over time it it tends to get a little bit angry with that we'll just put it that
way and it can get tight it can get irritated it can get inflamed once that happens it can
start pulling more in one direction than it should and what happens is you start getting improper
tracking of the kneecap and also the tendons in that area as well and then once that happens you're
going to get those pain receptors saying look this this kneecap shouldn't even be over here right now
like it needs to be tracking more straight over the knee so on and so forth so it can pull on your
knees in a direction that's not proper for the biomechanics of your body um so for this one
the easiest way that you can actually mitigate that is I'm going to go again back to foam rolling
you literally lay the side of your leg over on that foam roller and you go back and forth
never never go up above where you know your hip is and all that kind of stuff I mean when you're
foam rolling you're gonna feel your hip joint never go above that of course never go below the knee
stay in there and I'm going to tell you this right now I've never reduced more clients to
tears than when I put them on the IT band or foam roll the IT band we'll just put it that way
it can be very very painful especially if your IT band is very tight so I would recommend for
people if you're gonna do that just put gentle pressure on that foam roller don't try and lay
your entire body up on the foam roller up on your IT band if that makes sense so just slowly
foam roll it back and forth the more you foam roll something the better it gets the less
pain you're gonna have it's always going to be the most painful at the end and then it just
kind of just drops off after a while if that makes sense yeah yeah okay good that's good advice
and which is another piece of the puzzle here let's just talk about foam rollers for a minute
oh yeah so if you can describe a good foam roller so I would say if you're just starting out never
done it and you know your um you know your muscles and the structures are tight I would say just a
good flat foam roller one that's about at least two to three inches wide if you can Amazon has
great ones Amazon basics has like the one I actually have in my home is 36 inches wide
just a standard um diameter um and it's just flat and then what you do is obviously you're just
doing your foam roller routine on so on and so forth if you need more pressure if you need more
concentrated pressure if you need you know to get deeper into that fascia you can get foam rollers
that have ridges on them that have bumps on them they look like little mountains everywhere on there
and then what that does is it reduces the surface area that make that is making contact with your
your fascia but you still have the same amount of pressure so you're putting more pressure
in one tiny little area and it's able to get deeper into your fascia if that makes sense
yeah so oh go ahead John what do you what do you think of the ones that also like massage vibrate
like as I was about to I was about to get that that's like the the ultra platinum amazing versions
on those ones but yeah those are great because then also that vibration frequency can help
relax the muscle in those moments when you're trying to get it to relax you know what I mean
because it initially there's that pain response the muscle will try to tense up a little bit
but then eventually it'll relax and let go the vibrations in there really help that that process
get established early on so that when you are foam rolling you're doing a lot more with the time
that you're putting into it if that makes sense so the vibration ones are phenomenal they are
if you can't get them like the ultra athletes out there have those like I didn't meet a group of
Olympic athletes one time in Arizona um this is at a elite training facility or whatever and like
literally I was I walked right in on their warm up and stretching routine every single one of them had
a vibrate foam roller you mean like they were all in the corner they were plugged in took them out
and they were all doing the IT bands they were working on the back of their hamstrings they were
working on the back of their their calves I believe um I can't remember what team they were but it
was a very very active team that was using their legs a lot so ultimately at the end of the day
that is the perfect one that you can get if you ever can so yeah actually I do have one of those
myself and I use it nice I got it because I like to do my cardio on a treadmill or running outside
and I found that because I'm I'm lost a lot of weight but I'm still still plenty heavy
and I I found that uh my lower back and my hips were getting stiff uh after I worked out
so I got this uh vibrating roller and I for me I use it on my my lower back and my hip flexors when
and I and I I don't get a lot of pain it's just soreness kind of tightness so I just lay right on it
and you know I put it under my back and gonna roll it up and down with my you know with it between
me and the floor and then use do the same thing on my hips and use it to just kind of you
loosen that up so I can testify to the vibrating ones work very well
perfect yeah absolutely man there's going to be a lot more brands out there too I
know Hyper Ice used to be like the OG brand with that um they have like the uh
what was it the the hypervolt is like the the percussion massage device that they use and
everything but they there's a lot of good ones too there's also um now that I think about there's
also um a ball that they have as well there's a lot of vibrating um ball that they have
that can it really reduces that surface area so you can get even deeper with the with the ball so on
and so forth that I wouldn't really work well when you have structures in the back like your back
your shoulders you put it up against the wall really like push yourself into it all that kind of stuff
sometimes it's hard with the foam roller to hit every single muscle that you need to so if
you ever need like more of a smaller structure like a ball balls are perfect for that so yeah
very good stuff John okay so let's let's go let's move down the body and talk about those flat
feet yes is this how corrective is correctable is this with just different footwear or inserts
so this one how should I say this like if you do like corrective footwear inserts choose that you
know can try and a little bit correct that a little bit um that's a very good start
we'll just put it that way it's a very very good start if you ever can but it's hard because this
is a little bit more hands on but if you ever can like this can be corrected muscular wise as well
you know what I mean because like there's there's parts of people's muscular complex in the calf
muscle specifically where there's muscles that are responsible for pulling your foot one
direction there's muscles responsible for pulling your your foot in the other direction
like if they're flat or if they're high arches we'll just put it that way right
the the muscles that are responsible for pulling that arch up are incredibly weak
in people who have very flat feet it's why their feet just collapse in you know what I mean yeah so
you can correct that but it it's almost like a physical therapy type of type of correction
john to be honest with you like you need to be with someone who can actually like tell you exactly
how to correct it exactly what muscles the target what bands to use so on and so forth but it
is correctable in that way I would say though the best place to start is with you know those inserts
good shoes so on and so forth my brother in law suffers from this like crazy I've never seen flat
feet worse than his and he's got of course knee pain hip pain all sorts of stuff but I do always
encourage him to wear those corrective shoes to wear those corrective insoles and when he does
the pain is usually cut in half at least when he does that you mean I could probably get into
almost 90 not feeling any pain if I was to do more a lot more like more hands-on stuff with him
like a physical therapy approach but if you can get those corrective inserts get those corrective
shoes and then if you ever do want to try and correct them more muscular wise get the structures in
your legs properly I would say there's there are actually plenty of youtube videos out now that
do show how to do that properly and what equipment you need where you should feel it what you
should try how to manipulate your foot to get it that way so that was kind of hard to always
describe on a podcast but it is actually one of the most impactful if your feet are not tracking
properly if they're pronating way too much you guys that right there can be the sole source of
your knee pain 100 percent yep and you've I'm sure technicians listening you've heard me say it
before but footwear is another area where you should spend some money I mean I know you're
looking at new boots probably every six months the you know the it's just like running shoes
the interior structure of the shoe eventually breaks down and stops doing what the shoe is supposed to
do and so then you end up with sore feet sore legs or knees or back and you know here again I
hopefully you work for an employer that gives you a boot allowance several of my clients do that
so but even if not it's just where to prioritize and I'll add to this as well that
again forgive me for repeating myself but boots knee pads foam rollers all of this is
stuff to be doing before you have the pain yes that's because once you start having the pain
you're deeper into the whole thing and you could do some do some things to relieve the pain
but you can prevent it in the first place if you if you take care of yourself this way
and it's it it's not as much money as it looks like I mean you the like the rollers and the stuff
we're not you know the boots is the most expensive thing we've talked about today and that and
it's just worth it I mean your most important tool is your body and so you have to take care of it
and it's it would your your body will do to you just what your tools will do to you if you
treat them badly they will wear out faster right you know that it just is what it is absolutely
so love that so yeah so any last advice for for the guys about knees I would say honestly just
just think of your your body like you with the foundation of a home you know me start from
the ground up right in order if you have a good home you have a good foundation
a good foundation for your body is your feet and then you keep moving on up there if
if the feet are messed up the ankles are going to be messed up the knees are going to be messed up
hips are going to be messed up lower backs going to be messed up and everything above that so
start with the feet get some good footwear get some good knee pads when you're on those knees
all the time and then you know get some and then and then you know what start paying
more attention to your body do you feel like your quads are very very strong and you're
like you know I don't feel my hamstrings at all like if you're sitting down in a chair if you
can't squeeze one butt shake and the other butt shake you just can't feel that then you know that
you have almost no neurological connections to those structures and absolutely they are already
unactive or underactive we'll just put it that way so I would say work on those feet
start researching some ways to move your body and strengthening those muscular structures that
need to be woken up so that they can start doing their job you mean it's like uh I don't know
John if I could compare it to something in the field like you know it's like one part of the
I don't know one part of the coils is working and the other part isn't you know I mean like
the outside part is it is not getting circulation but the inside part is is you know what I mean so
I'm probably butchering that y'all I'm so sorry I'll stick to the health coaching over here
but I'm trying to you know at the end of the day you just got to have all the components
working together as they should if one gets out of whack it throws the whole system out of whack
and then what happens is you get that pain that pain is like the check engine like don't just rip it out
figure out what's going on figure out the upstream stuff don't just deal with the downstream you know
I mean if you get knee pain you're popping a leaf or Tylenol that's not a long-term solution
it's just masking over the symptoms we don't want to do the masking of the symptoms we want to
figure out what's going on the feet are flat cool let's fix that you know if the glutes are
inactive or you know overactive whatever it may be let's fix that let's strengthen it up takes
a little bit of time takes a little bit of dedication but it's your body you don't you don't get one more
than this you don't respawn this isn't like a video game you're not respawning it's it's not going to
come back um brand new and healthy again so yeah that's my part of your advice just work on it
and be as smart and in tune with your body as you possibly can yeah yeah I agree 100 Adam all
right well listen y'all I hope you got some good stuff about knees today a little bit of preaching
which I don't mind and some good information as well so Adam thanks again for being with us
absolutely and we will see you all next time