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In this episode of '50 Cups Hot Take with Jim Baker, Bill Ame and Jim Bakker discuss a variety of hot topics. They begin with the impact of microplastics on our bodies, examining their prevalence in everyday items and the potential health consequences. They move on to debate the benefits and drawbacks of a plant-based diet versus a traditional meat diet. The conversation then shifts to the topic of election vote counting, exploring the differences in state procedures and the importance of timely and accurate vote tallies. The episode wraps up with a discussion on celebrities threatening to leave the country over election results and the broader implications of such statements. Along the way, Jim introduces us to the benefits of English breakfast tea with lemon and reveals more about their special, organic teas available at 50cupstea.com.
00:00 Introduction and Guest Welcome
00:55 Today's Hot Topics Overview
03:23 Microplastics: The Hidden Danger
05:15 Impact of Microplastics on Health
09:54 Solutions to Reduce Microplastic Exposure
25:03 The Debate: Plant-Based vs. Meat Diets
28:36 The Role of Cows in the Ecosystem
29:02 Nutritional and Digestive Benefits of Meat
30:07 Environmental Impact of Meat vs. Plant-Based Diets
32:11 Concerns About Election Integrity
35:07 State-by-State Election Processes
44:17 Celebrity Reactions to Election Results
49:58 The Importance of Balanced Perspectives
52:42 Final Thoughts and Tea Promotion
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Jim Baker
Author of "The Adventure Begins When The Plan Falls Apart" Converting a Crisis into Company Success, Jim is a husband and father of 4, Baker has spent the last 30 years in the business world as an entrepreneur, investor, and advisor. He had a successful exit in 2014 after owning and managing a CRO and functional services company, Ockham, specializing in Oncology. During that time prior to exit, Baker grew ASG and then Ockham both organically and through M&A. Over time Baker has experience in acquiring and selling companies, working with investment bankers, private equity, and mezzanine debt funding. In addition, has vast experience in business branding and managing and leading people. After the sale to Chiltern International, Baker started Sumus Development Group, an advisory business focused on operational excellence, exit strategy and marketing. In addition, Baker is an active investor in the business community.
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Default_2024-11-07_2: [00:00:00] [00:00:15] Hello everybody. I'm Bill Ame [00:00:30] and it's time for another wonderful program. It's called 50 Cups Hot Take with Jim Bakker, who is an extraordinary entrepreneur, successful business man.
Jim, it's good to see him. Yeah, you as well. Um, how'd you how was your trip this morning? Oh, it [00:00:45] was fast. It was fast. We got here as quickly as we can because I love your hot takes. I really do, and I'm just. You know, I'm kind of excited about it. Do you mind, can you just give us a hint? What are we talking about today?
Yeah, yeah. So four things, you know, a couple of them are timely, obviously. Um, we're gonna start off [00:01:00] just simply talking about microplastics and what they're doing to our bodies. We're, we're gonna move on to this, plant-based versus beef type of diet. And then I thought we'd say the fun stuff for last, um, which [00:01:15] is the.
Vote counting since we're in the election season at this point in time. Mm-Hmm. and some of those celebrities that are threatening to lead the country. Bruce Springsteen Brian Cranston Molly Cyrus, et cetera. So yeah, just want to kind of talk about that towards the end of the podcast as [00:01:30] well.
You know, I can't wait. And of course, each and every time we get together, you bring us some delicious tea. Yeah. So today I have, since it's. Phenomenally warm out there. Not in a bad way. I just love Yeah, the warmth. And it's beautiful. I mean, the leaves are falling, [00:01:45] got this fall, um, but it's 70 some odd degrees and it's spectacular out there.
So I thought we'd go with a little ice tea today. Beautiful. So today I have English breakfast tea, and I did add a little lemon to it today, freshly brewed this morning [00:02:00] again, little ice. Wow. Um, kind of on fire with the ice lately that my. Previous podcast when I had the benefit of podcasting my mom, which I had a great time with.
I actually brought Isis time, so Oh, very good. You know, it's gonna be a little bit more chilled, but I did not [00:02:15] sweeten this like I'd sweetened the tea for my mom since she loves sugar, but it seems to work for her since she's 86 years old and still doing great. So, well, I, I feel privileged and honored to be Yeah, be nice just like your mom.
Yeah. And the beauty about English breakfast is [00:02:30] it, um, not only gives you energy. But it provides some clarity of thought, you know, and, and I think it helps you become more organized and looking at your calendars and following your schedules and things like that. So, um, it is a phenomenally refreshing [00:02:45] tea.
But also have some spectacular benefits as well. Oh, it does. Taste delicious. Should have been given out during the election. Should have been, you know, for folks to get clarity of mind. But in any case, it is delicious. And as always, if [00:03:00] folks would like to partake in, in the wonderful teas that you offer, what's the best way to do that?
Yeah, 50 cups tea.com and, um, we do have all of our special flavors that are available again or organic. [00:03:15] Um, even our bag tea is, um, it's an organic bag. It doesn't have any microplastics in it dyes, et cetera. Um, which kinda leads us to our first topic today. Yeah, absolutely. What, what's going on with Can't be good.
The plastics that we, [00:03:30] you know, it's plastics everywhere. Yeah. Yeah. And I'm assuming you've done a little research on that. What, what's the real story on the plastics gym? So, I mean, I will say that. Previ Prior to the [00:03:45] 1950s, you know, there was very little of any plastic in our society. So if you went to the butcher, for example, you know, they'd wrap everything in, um, pla paper.
Mm-Hmm. Um, you bring it home, you to cook it. Um, everything was basically locally grown and you shopped locally. [00:04:00] So there wasn't, you know, any significant need for, um, additional packaging to preserve food. For longer periods of time, but obviously as the country grew and as technology innovated, um, plastics really, you [00:04:15] know, took off in our society, probably in the sixties and in the seventies.
Byproduct product of that are these microplastics that are around here now. And basically a microplastic is, is a one microgram per [00:04:30] thousand and a nano. Nanoplastic is a less than one gram per thousand. Um, well, where did these come from? Yeah. So just pump the plastic. Right. So I think it, [00:04:45] I mean, it comes from a lot of different stuff, but for the most part, the tires that you, are using on your car Mm-Hmm.
Today, whether you have an electric vehicle or you have a gas. Vehicle. Um, there's microplastics in 'em. [00:05:00] So, um, it, it's, they put them in to preserve the tire. So in the old days, you know, you might've gotten 20,000 miles on a tire. Today you get 50,000 miles. So they're not a hundred percent rubber anymore.
Um, obviously there's some metal in there and there's other [00:05:15] products as well. But a lot of these tires that we all drive on every single day are have pla plastic in 'em, and as a result. You know, as the tire goes down the road, um, no matter what speed you're going, the tire's gonna wear, you know, and the [00:05:30] byproduct of that is you have these microplastics that get into the air.
So first and foremost all of us, no matter where you are and where you're located, um, are breathing in these microplastics on a daily basis. Hmm. The body has a phenomenal way of [00:05:45] detoxing, however. Um, they have found in cadavers that in organs in pretty much every part of your body, um, they found microplastics in the body.
They've also found, um, I don't remember what it's called, but in the [00:06:00] first, um. A poop. Basically, after a baby is born, they have found microplastics in the baby. Wow. Um, so obviously it's in the fetus then. And what's um, bad about these microplastics and nanoplastics is that they can penetrate the [00:06:15] three barriers in your body where you don't want any penetration.
So first and foremost. They could penetrate the blood ba brain barrier. Wow. Right. So there's microplastics in your head. Um, they can also penetrate the testicular barrier. And why is that [00:06:30] important? Um, obviously the body's wa um, wonderfully designed to protect certain areas. Um, obviously the brain, you know, and that's pretty self-explanatory.
And then you have your reproductive organs within your male and female. [00:06:45] Vitally important that you protect those as well. Otherwise, at the end of the day, the human race can't reproduce, right? So we're seeing a lot of I'm sure everybody's read about this numbers out there of decreasing fertility rates.
Um. [00:07:00] People having more and more difficulty, you know, um, conceiving and having babies. Um, and there has to be a reason for that. Now there's no specific study that's being done in humans right now. They have been done in animal studies but there's no [00:07:15] specific studies that are being done in humans where they can actually link.
Some of these microplastics back to, um, fertility rates, et cetera. But it penetrates the test testicular barrier within a male, and then it penetrates the follicle barrier [00:07:30] within a female. So, um, no matter how hard the mom tries, um to. Eliminate plastics. There's gonna be plastics in a reproductive system.
And obviously they've had, do have studies where they've [00:07:45] shown that, um, sperm, um, you know, has plastic in it as well. And you've also read recently that you know, not only are sperm counts down, but also the modality of the sperm. Um, where basically in the old days, for lack of a better [00:08:00] term. It rocked right through, and you know, only one sperm needs to penetrate that egg to Right.
You know, fertilize that egg. And so the modality, if they're, you know, not exactly swimming straight, so to speak, you know, if they're, I did not know that they're poor, [00:08:15] you know, it's a drunk driver almost, then it's gonna be more difficult, you know, for, you know, conception to occur. So that's the problem with the microplastics.
Okay. So you have 'em in your air. Um, they're obviously in the sea, so [00:08:30] and then the most important place that they're in, um, is in bottled water. Oh, I hadn't thought about that. Of course. So the, in the, when they started testing bottled water years ago, um, basically they found that there were 30,000.[00:08:45]
Microplastic per liter in your bottle of water. And now with better technology, they have this infrared technology where, um, they can see that their not only micro particles, but there's also nanoparticles. [00:09:00] And, um, the average bottle of water now has up to 200,000. Micro particles in the water bottle, so that's crazy.
I mean, and people drink bottled water thinking that it's a healthier way [00:09:15] to go. Sure. It's a phenomenal market. I mean, oh man. You know, we, it's not. It's amazing to me that people still get dehy dehydrated in this country. I mean, there's water everywhere and, um, but the problem is we don't actually know how that water is [00:09:30] processed.
So you have this bottle that's, um, obviously built to, for flexibility so it doesn't crack and break and leak. Um, it's built to hold the water. Um, it's built to handle extreme temperatures. Um, well all that [00:09:45] comes with a, a price. Sure. And in this case. Um, we are ingesting, you know, these microparticles every single day.
So one of the solutions obviously is to drink out of a metal, um, [00:10:00] cup and potentially obviously get a, a filter for your house and drink top water that's filtered that can remove these particles. And there are a bunch of different, products out there that can do that. Some of them though, do pull the minerals out of the water, so [00:10:15] you probably want to, you know.
Unfortunately, it's probably gonna cost a little bit more. You wanna find one that actually pulls the plastic, but also keeps the minerals. Okay. But if not, you know, then you could just go eat more minerals, um, with you have better diet and supplements and you'll be fine. Um, [00:10:30] is that enough though?
Yeah. I mean, if, if it's already in your body and it seems like an extra extraordinary amount of it. Does your body pass it at some point? I mean, can you eventually become free of this stuff if you Yeah, I mean, [00:10:45] other than you, than those three areas. As I said, the brain, the testicles and the folic.
Well, those are areas. Yeah. Yes. You, they're, you can't pass. You can't from can, you can't, yeah, you can't get rid of it. I mean, once they're in, they're in. And once you know, they get in obviously 'cause they're so microscopic. [00:11:00] Um, and obviously that's an issue I think with some of the medications that are out there and statins in particular.
'cause they also. Most of them pass the blood brain barrier as well. So it's one thing to have your cholesterol lowered, but is it also gonna affect your head at some point in [00:11:15] time as well? And Oh, that's a great question. You know, we don't know, right? So I, I'm sure there's studies being done in that area.
'cause that's a wildly popular drug at this point in time, and there's billions of dollars that are exchanged every single year on that. But not to get into the heart world today. Um, yeah, but [00:11:30] body does excrete plastics, so they, and they found that, um in general that they did a study I think a few years ago, um, where they had, um.
X amount of people drinking bottled water for five straight days. And they had x [00:11:45] amount of people that didn't drink bottled water for five straight days. They analyzed the urine and the people that drank the bottled water had, let's just say, I can't remember the exact measurement, but, you know, two to 300,000 more particles, plastic [00:12:00] particles in their water, in their urine.
And, um, those that didn't, and then they reversed it. So they took the people that didn't drink the bottle of water, then they did the bottled water and vice versa. The good news they found is that people that drank the water, um, after a few days of not drinking the water, [00:12:15] their particle waste was reduced, meaning that they weren't having to, to excrete as much plastic as they they were getting doing before.
But it sounds like, um, if I'm wrong, you'll correct me that we still don't [00:12:30] have a real study or research on. How much is in the body? How much is too much, and the long term effects of it. I mean, if it's going into the brain, if it's having an impact on your testicles, I, I, I gotta believe it also has some kind of [00:12:45] impact on your brain.
But they don't know, do they? They don't, not yet anyway. Yeah. Yeah. It's. You know, and obviously a lot of this stuff is pretty tough to figure out because, you know, let's say the bottled water industry exploded in the eighties, nineties mm-Hmm. Um, well that's what, [00:13:00] 40, 50 years ago? Um, 30 years ago. Um, sometimes the body takes a long time, um, you know, to present, you know, with symptoms going forward.
Now, there are arguments out there that, um, you know, autism, A DHD, et cetera, et cetera, [00:13:15] especially in kids, um, you know, there's no direct link, but. You know, again, we talked about this earlier in other podcasts. Why are people becoming more unhealthy? And, you know hopefully, you know, they will, we will take that seriously and look into [00:13:30] that a little bit further going forward, because I.
You know, as a kid, especially, you go to soccer practice, you know, mom's probably putting a Gatorade in your pouch or a bottle of water, you know, nobody's, very few people are at home, you know, mixing their own concoction and putting in a metal [00:13:45] container. Um, so it's it's, it's wildly convenient, it's easy, and, um, um, it, in most cases, you know, it's sold as, Hey, drink this healthy drink.
That's great. It might be super healthy, but if it's. Bottled in plastic, you [00:14:00] know, then you're also not Exactly, it's not exactly pure. Right. Right. Um, I think the other thing too is, you know, and I've seen it, you know, being in the retail world, um, you know, you order all of your product off of a truck and I.
Yep. That [00:14:15] truck, unless you're buying refrigerated food, not water, you know that truck is, is not refrigerated when you get your water and your dry goods, so to speak. So you have no idea where, where that water has been. When once it left the manufacturer, did it sit on a pallet in 90 degree [00:14:30] heat before it got shipped?
You know 'cause the goal is the, the, if you don't heat the plastic as much, then less. Opportunity for the plastics to, you know, basically absorb into the, to the water that's in the bottle. [00:14:45] But you just don't know where that plastic bottle has been before it hits your mouth. Well, and the thing that you pointed out, and I think it's really important, is that we are less healthy than we were in the past, and especially the kids.
You brought up autism and a, and a lot of other issues [00:15:00] that they're facing. And each time we do a podcast, Jim, we're talking about something that potentially harms you. In everyday products that people aren't aware of. Um, and yet we're dependent on a, a, i, I [00:15:15] guess, a bureaucracy to protect us, and, and it doesn't.
So from your perspective, you're doing a lot of research and I know you're really health conscious. What does the average guy in GAL do? I mean, now we're talking about microplastics in water bottles. [00:15:30] Yeah. Or in tires. I mean, how do you avoid it? Well, I mean, some, some of 'em you can't. Right? You can't.
Right. So, but I will say in addition to water bottles, the other killer, um, I shouldn't say killer, the other, prevalent [00:15:45] leakage within a drink comes from. Coffee cups that are paper-based. Oh, right. So when you go to your favorite coffee shop to get your hot coffee or your hot tea. Yeah. Hopefully it's tea and not coffee.
Um, you know, that product you got plastics that are leaking [00:16:00] into that product because again, all for profit and in a good way and all for flexibility, et cetera, is that, you know, if you had a pure paper cup, you're probably gonna burn your hand and the cup is gonna. It's gonna dissolve [00:16:15] after a while, it's paper.
Sure. So it has to be coated in plastic in order for that cup to maintain its strength its flexibility, et cetera. And then on top of that, you throw that little plastic lid on top and then you sip through that lid. You know, that adds a couple extra [00:16:30] micro or, or nanoparticles, you know, into your bloodstream every single day.
Now, the good news about some of that is that you're gonna excrete it. Mm-Hmm. Um, but the bad news, it, it's gonna get in your bloodstream. 'cause everything that goes in your stomach eventually gets in your bloodstream. And some of it's gonna probably [00:16:45] hang out in your head or, or your testicles or your, you know, your female, well this is all your body's being exposed to things that has never been exposed Yeah.
To, in history, really. Right. So then what, what can you do? Um, you know, I will say one more thing. They did find that people, some people that [00:17:00] suffer from irritable bowel syndrome, um, they found more plastic. Going through their system than others. Um, so that may contribute to some of the IB issues that are out there right now.
Um, what can you do? [00:17:15] Pretty much try to avoid bottled water as much as you possibly can. Um, and I, I would also, I. Recommend that you avoid this sneaky bottle of water. So let's say you work in a company. Mm-Hmm. And let's say you have, you know, the free water [00:17:30] fountain. Um, and, but if you look at the water fountain, there's usually a, you know, five or 10 gallon jug of water in plastic that's sitting on top of the water fountain.
So then you're pouring into your steel cup, you're still getting the particles. Sure. Right. Um. There's only so [00:17:45] much you can do, right? Um, so if you are in a workplace environment where you get a drink outta the tap, for example and or something like that that's not filtered. Now, my company, when I had it, we had a filtered system.
Which removed the particles back then. Mm-Hmm. Um, [00:18:00] but maybe you can lobby your company, Hey, get me something that's filtered. Um, it doesn't cost that much money for a company and I'm sure they would be happy to do it since it's a win for them with their employees. And on top of that, um, you, it's all about employment engagement.
Right? Right. So lastly of course you [00:18:15] wanna have a healthy employees. 'cause if you don't, then it's hard to get work done. True. Um, but as an individual, um, just cut back on the water bottles, um, you know, get your own metal container. Fill it up, you know, from your house in the morning and, um, just look at other [00:18:30] opportunities to fill it up during the day where you're not.
You know, just consuming bot bottled water. If you love going to the Starbucks or some other coffee shop, like 50 cups in the old days before I got outta retail. Yes. Um, buy the drink, you know, and then just pour it [00:18:45] into your metal container. If they won't, we would've, of course, served you at 50 cups if you brought your own metal container in, but if they don't do that, don't let it sit there forever.
Just dump it into, you know, a metal, you know, cup for yourself so you're again, not, you know, sipping a drink for five minutes where [00:19:00] that. Those particles can get into you. So, I mean, there are some things you could do. You're not gonna eliminate, you know, the, um, the particles from your body. Well, I think you're making people aware that these, um, these are out there and causing an issue, even though we don't know [00:19:15] what the end result will be.
I think it's incredibly helpful, and I know I've changed toothpaste. I I don't drink Gatorade. And so you've changed my life. And I'm sure a lot of people who have listened to this their eyes are opened. I, I hope that at some point we, we [00:19:30] get a system in place that can kind of take over. So it's not always on the individual, right, Jim?
That there's something that is out there. Yeah. And you know, and I'm talking a lot about micro microparticles and nano and I kind of. I mean, at the end of the day, that, um, they're there. But [00:19:45] also, you know, what comes with that are are the, the, the PBAs, right? The, um, I always mispronounce this word, so I wanna make sure I read it.
Bisphenol A and bisphenol s and they're endocrine disruptors. Yeah. So when you mess with your endocrine system, which is your hormones Mm-Hmm.[00:20:00]
Um, then obviously that, like I said earlier, leads to fertility issues, et cetera, et cetera. Um, fix your overall beam. Really. Yeah. And there's this, another, there's another famous podcaster out there right now is a doctor, and, you know, she was saying [00:20:15] that, um, babies, um, males, um, some kind of measurement between, I guess the scrotum to the anus.
Mm-Hmm. Where, you know, there has to be, you know, let's say two inches. mm-Hmm. Um, and if it's [00:20:30] less than that, then they're saying now that that's type precursor to. Potential fertility issues down the road. Um, so again, look her up. I don't remember her name, but, um, if you went to on podcast and punched in that search criteria, you could probably [00:20:45] find it or I went on YouTube or whatever.
but a lot, you know, it's so you got your bottled water. You got your hot tires, hot drink paper cups. You got your tires and, oh, if you're a soup lover. Yeah. Oh no, not soup. Gym. You got your soup canes. Oh. [00:21:00] Oh. Not the soup can. Yes. Again, you know the soup cans are, are lined with plastic to prevent. Um, to, to, to preserve the flavor, you know, of the soup.
Soup has acid in it, it's got fat in it. Um, all that stuff would eat away [00:21:15] at a metal container. Um, so I would probably either eliminate soup if you're. Like to have soup at home or make your own Mm-Hmm. Um and or you gotta be careful with these restaurants you go to. 'cause I don't think a lot of them, you know, [00:21:30] make the homemade soup out of leftovers from the day before.
I think they just buy a giant metal can that's lined with plastic and then they pour it out, heat it, and then they serve it to you during the day. So even if you go into a restaurant to get soup, my recommendation would be to go [00:21:45] soup less going forward. And those are really the four primary things other than.
You know, you, you know, buying plastic containers to, to, um, preserve your food, you know, leftovers Mm-Hmm. You know, when you see microwaves [00:22:00] safe? Mm-Hmm. All that means is the plastic's not gonna melt. It doesn't mean that that, um those plastics aren't gonna get into your food supply. So. At home, we've gone to all glass.
just try to eliminate any type of thing you possibly are doing on a daily [00:22:15] basis that might have had anything to do with plastic. But again, there's not a heck of a lot you can do, um, in some other areas.
I mean, you're not gonna stop driving your car. Nope. You're not gonna stop breathing. Nope. Um. You, when you go to the grocery store, you're still gonna buy your meat that's wrapped in plastic. Um, but if you [00:22:30] can get it out, you know, and get it into something else real quick, um, you know, those, those types of minor things might be able to help you reduce some of the plastics in your body.
It's fascinating. It would be interesting to see if someone who could actually do that, eliminate as much of the [00:22:45] things that we've talked about on this program, how much healthier they ultimately would be. But it's crazy what we accept and I know the reason behind all of this is a good one. I guess, you know, when they are lining the cans with plastic, you've explained why they do [00:23:00] it and we, we accept it, but I never knew that it presented a danger.
Yeah. I mean, beauty of our country is you can get food anywhere at any time. Right, right. Um, I mean, the old days there were little mini gardens wrapped major cities and Right. You know, they supplied the food or [00:23:15] somebody would drive in the food from a farm, you know, now it comes in trucks and, you know, these 10, 15 million populated metro areas, you know, get their food, you know, very easily.
Um, it's obviously in grocery stores, right? Um, but so there's [00:23:30] a lot of good that came from it. But at the flip side, there's always a price, you know, just anecdotally I was watching a a, a concert on, on tv. And the concert was a big name, star, and he was in, um, I don't know, Europe somewhere. And I was [00:23:45] watching the crowd.
They were showing a lot of the crowd effect and there was an fat person in there. And this was a crowd of all ages. And then I, and I look at us, not you, you're, you're, you, you're not obese, but, but you look at Americans in general, right? And were kind of the laughing [00:24:00] stock when you go over, um, over to Europe, they have a much different system.
Be nice to maybe adopt some of that. [00:24:15] [00:24:30] [00:24:45] Some people say, Jim, that, um, stop eating meat, man. Get away from meat. And I'm, I'm a big beef guy. You know, go to the plants, eat, yeah, eat plants and now you'll be a lot healthier. Although they, they seem pale and [00:25:00] and thin. When I see people who are vegetarians, I guess.
What do you think about, let's say plant versus animal? Yeah. So I'm not gonna cover the whole vegan thing 'cause that's almost like a religion. It's, um, in this case it's just a simple plant-based diet versus a [00:25:15] beef diet or a meat diet. In this kind situation, and I'll, I'll conclude. Fish and chicken, pork and beef, as I describe a meat-based diet, um, compared to a, a plant-based diet.
Mm-Hmm. So I just go back in time, [00:25:30] you know, so when we were hunters and gatherers. You know, thousands and thousands and thousands of years ago. Mm-Hmm. Um, before I think we learned how to farm, we would roam, you know, the the countryside and we would, you know, most likely kill an [00:25:45] animal. Yeah. We would hunt and gather probably through trial and error and the era being a bad thing.
We probably didn't live, you know, we would go and pull, you know, berries or leaves off of plants and eat them. So the body basically was [00:26:00] designed to have this equilibrium, you know, of, you know, high protein in this case, meat, um, and also plant. And the, it seemed like there's been this assault over the last 20 [00:26:15] years or so on beef, you know, in our country.
And mostly centered around the environment and the fact that, you know, cows in general. Um. They, you know, produce meth. [00:26:30] Yeah. You know, and, and methane's not good for the environment. Right. Even though methane's been around forever. Right. You know, in the environment. So I started thinking about this more and I'm like, man, are we gonna go down this rat hole in this country where eventually we have no choices as humans?[00:26:45]
Um, and we either have to go all on the plant-based. Diet with this fake meat that's that's out there right now. And I remember a few years ago when it came out, like the stock took off like a rocket. Um, it tasted just like beef, you know, but if you actually looked at [00:27:00] the ingredients, you know, there wasn't anything in there, you know, that was, was healthy.
You know, it was loaded with a lot of seed oils. Um, it was loaded with, um, salt, um, it was loaded with fake fat. Um, you know, they had a couple sprinkles of [00:27:15] probably some plant, you know, that's supposed to be good for you in there, but at the end of the day, you're basically eating chemicals. Yeah. And as we know, we've covered that before.
That's just simply not good. No. Um, so, but then going step further with the environment. Industrial farming is actually the worst [00:27:30] possible thing you could do for our, our environment. You know, what does that mean? Well, if I have to feed 330 million people and they're not allowed to eat any type of meat anymore, um, then I gotta have these, you know, giant farms everywhere.
And what are they gonna do? They're gonna strip I. [00:27:45] Trees, um and other plant life out of there. And they're just gonna grow and grow, grow. And then they're gonna pull the topsoil every year and have to bring in new topsoil. They're gonna fertilize, they're gonna throw pesticides in it because if they get a blight, you know, then they won't be able to feed the population.
So we're gonna have [00:28:00] runoff in our rivers, et cetera, et cetera. And. You know, these beef farms that are out there are, are regenerative farms. You know, for the most part, I'm not talking about the ones where they herd up, you know, a trillion cattle a day and give 'em the electric prodding, slaughter 'em, and send 'em to, [00:28:15] um, to the, to the butcher eventually.
Um, I'm talking about these other, you know, farms that are highly I shouldn't say they're regulated. They are regulated, but. Seems like there's a, a, a war going on with, you know, [00:28:30] eliminating or preventing, you know, some of this regenerative farming. And that's what we had been doing for, you know, hundreds of years.
Mm-Hmm. And what do I mean by that? Well, cow, you know, isn't a grass pasture Cow eats the grass. Right. Um, he [00:28:45] also excretes, right? And then that's fertilizer for the ground grows. The grass also feeds, you know, other wildlife like birds, et cetera, et cetera. You know, they drop seedlings everywhere. And then we have more grass, we have more trees.
We have, we have this whole [00:29:00] environmental ecosystem that goes on, right. Um, and with industrial farming, you're never gonna get that. So not only do I think that from a nutritional standpoint, um, eating full plant-based diets are, are, I don't think they're good for you. [00:29:15] 'cause I don't think you, you, there's no natural source of protein in most cases.
Mm-Hmm. Enough protein, I should say. Um, I also think if you actually look at your digestive track and figure it out, my guess is that most people, not everybody, 'cause every human's different. Um, your [00:29:30] stomach's gonna feel a little bit better eating meat than it will be, you know, trying to knock out a, a broccoli, a cabbage, a pee, a bean.
I mean, that's highly fibrous. Um, it's difficult sometimes for the body to break that down. Um, so you may end up, you know, in [00:29:45] situations that aren't comfortable for you from a, a digestive situation. Well, I was gonna ask, because our bodies were designed to eat meat. Yeah, they were. I mean so you have strong jaws, way of teeth, the whole works, right?
Everything was kind of designed to do that in addition to plant as [00:30:00] well. So to choose one over another seems kinda silly. And also, um, maybe very harmful to not only the environment to all of us. I. So, um, there is this battle going on though, Jim. I don't know who's winning the battle. I kind of think the, the meat [00:30:15] industry is pretty, because a lot people pretty, a lot of people don't want to just eat plants, right?
Yeah. It's pretty big. And like, I'm not predicting doom and gloom tomorrow, but I just, you know, if I look into this, you know, there's the health part portion of it and I, I just, for me personally, based on the research I've done, well, [00:30:30] there's no benefit, um, you know, to, to going full plant-based. Um, I think there's a better benefit to have a.
You know, a combination of both, right? Um, and then you throw the, the environmental piece on top of it. And to me that's a no brainer at [00:30:45] that point. Yeah. But it's sold as, you know, let's get rid of the cows. 'cause they're crushing the, the, the environment and well that's actually helping, they're actually helping the environment.
Um, you know, um, and then. Going back to what I said earlier, you know, a lot of people are like, well, forget the beef. You know, let's just [00:31:00] focus on the chicken and the um, the fish, you know? Well, you know, if there's a billion particles of plastic in the ocean, oh yeah. Because those plastics that I talked about before, that's, they're not biodegradable.
So they just sit there on the ocean. And [00:31:15] then the salt and the, the water, the beauty about the ocean is probably, I think I said it, it takes like 200 years to get rid of a water bottle. Yeah. Um, I mean, in thousands of years they'll be gone. Um, but you know that we keep adding to it. Right, exactly. So now the fish have [00:31:30] the nice plastic inside 'em as well, and they're gonna go ahead and, and adjust that on a regular basis also.
So. You know, I think with anything, it's all about balance. But it just, it's a hot take of mine that, um, we're being sold a bill of goods and I think a lot of people [00:31:45] just simply whatever source they're getting their, um, material from, they buy that. And I would just encourage you all to actually do a deep dive on this thing, um, and really figure out what's actually good for the environment and what's not, and what's actually good for your body and what is it [00:32:00] Yeah.
And for your kids. And you know, we, we just gotta get in the game. I guess, Jim, that's when I. My hot take on listening to your hot takes is we have to get involved in what we eat and, and our lifestyle. Um, do you want to talk [00:32:15] about the counting on election yet, or, I see. I'm so, I'm so anxious to get to it because I I don't know about you.
It's, it's it's been a pretty big deal as far as people questioning how it's done. If it's, if it's [00:32:30] legit. If it's not legit, can you cheat? And I don't even know how they count it on election night. That just seems, almost an impossibility sometimes. 'cause I, I voted and it goes into a machine and once it's in the machine, Jim, I, I don't know what happens.
I [00:32:45] assume everything works well. Yeah. I mean, we're gonna go into that. I'm not sure it does. Yeah. I mean that's, we're gonna go into that assumption. So it's two days after the election. Yeah. Um, like probably a lot of you you know. You're in a, in a habitual [00:33:00] situation where every four years from a presidential standpoint, but maybe you love being on watching TV every two years when they have the House and Senate.
Mm-Hmm. Some of those are, all of them are up for reelection during that time. Um, but for me, I'm more of a four year [00:33:15] person. Um, and in the old days you know, you. Sat around from, you know, eight o'clock on at night, usually by 10, maybe 11 o'clock at night. Um, it was over. It was over, yeah. Right. You do.
And then in 2000, when you had the whole Bush gore thing, [00:33:30] um, which took almost till what, mid-December, I guess, before the Supreme Court finally had to make a decision, um, you know, that seemed like after Bush Gore, um, suddenly you weren't getting the finality done. Until [00:33:45] either much later in the evening and or the next morning or, and, or 2020, um, the weekend after the election.
So I started thinking to myself, what is going on? Like what, right? We have all this technology. Elon Musk can land a rocket back on its pad, [00:34:00] um, but we can't figure out how to count votes fast. Um, now part of it is if I'm a network and I have 330 million people in this country. And I wanna start at 7:00 PM and I wanna sell a [00:34:15] bunch of advertising on commercials.
Do I really wanna shut this thing down and have everybody go to sleep at 10 o'clock at night? No. Probably not. Probably not. And then, since we have a lot of people that live on the West coast, mm-hmm. I really wanna bleed this thing into [00:34:30] East Coast time, like two or 3:00 AM because now I got the West coasters that are home.
Doing what the east coasters did, you know at seven or eight o'clock at night. So I have all these eyeballs, you know, all night long. And in fairness, you know, some of the [00:34:45] earlier elections that were called, um, maybe discouraged, you know, people on the West Coast to vote. 'cause they're like, well, it's already over.
There's no point in me voting. Right. And obviously you want everybody to vote. Yes. So that's, that's my first take, you know, on why this is now, it's becoming more of a [00:35:00] sport where it's prolonged and they want people to, you know. To stay, stay tuned, so to speak. Yes. Second thing is that, and I agree with this, um, it's up to the states, um, to make their own election laws [00:35:15] and to, um, you know, follow the procedures and protocol to validate the votes, um, and count the votes and make sure they're secure and it's safe, et cetera, et cetera.
And so I decided I'd sample, [00:35:30] you know, a couple different, um, states and Florida. Which went from probably the worst state in the country in 2000 where you had the hanging chads. You had, oh, I remember that. Had some digital ballots. You had paper ballots, [00:35:45] you know, every county was different. And then we all sat glued to our TVs through Thanksgiving.
Um, watching some I hold up card, you know, with glasses on, you know, holding up whether. Yes. And you know, the vote count would change like every day, right? Mm-Hmm. Yep. Um, [00:36:00] and since then, Florida said, you know what, um, we gotta be, we gotta do a better job. Mm-Hmm. So I'm gonna summarize, but their intent is to make sure that every ballot is, is, um that's cast as counted, [00:36:15] processed and fits the guidelines.
And if it's not. It gets kicked out. And, so they state set, you know, specific guidelines and then obviously force the, the counties in this case, you know, to, to [00:36:30] follow those guidelines. And their intent was we really want to have a fair, safe election where we can count all the ballots, you know, post close within an hour or two hours after the last polls have closed.
Right, right. And that's why you now see Florida, you know, [00:36:45] delivering the results. You know, within a couple hours after, um, the polls have shut down. You take North Carolina for example, and we have early voting in our state. Um, but there, after I [00:37:00] think 2020 they finally said, Hey, anything that's early, um, needs to be processed and early voting ends the weekend before.
The election day on that Tuesday. Um, and they've, they've counted all the [00:37:15] ballots, so now all they have to do on election day is just count, you know, who voted, I mean, how many votes are counted on election day. They can ma add them to the tally that's already been counted and ba boom, you know, the results come out, um, [00:37:30] hopefully within a few hours.
Yes, post-election. Now, I will say North Carolina was the first swing state. That, um, was decided, and I think it was around 11 o'clock at night. So the polls closed at seven 30, so it was a three and a half hour wait. Um, now [00:37:45] what all these states don't take into account is based on the size and it's usually these big cities, um, within states where they gotta process a lot of votes.
The only question I'd have is, well, they already know this, so why don't they just bring more people and more machines, you know, into these [00:38:00] municipalities so they can process 'em, process them as fast as a, some of the smaller counties. That would make sense nonetheless. You know, their intent was, you know, get these ballots counted, um, within guidelines.
And they have a voter ID law now in North Carolina too. Um, and I don't [00:38:15] wanna go into that today, but there's a lot of other states that have in corporate debt as well. So there's less dispute, disruption or disputes on certain ballots that have, might have been cast. Um, Pennsylvania, which we waited forever in 2020, [00:38:30] um, they're, have tightened up their rules as well, but.
Um, for some reason they, they're not allowed to count the, the early voting or, and or mail-in until election day. Hmm. [00:38:45] So that just exasperates the problem, and that's why it takes a little bit longer for Pennsylvania to get their vote total out. I think they finally called the state around 3:00 AM um, on Wednesday morning.
Way better than what it was, you know, in 2020. But in my [00:39:00] opinion, still a little bit slow. Now you take a state like California. Yes. And their intent is basically to make sure everybody possible can vote pretty much whenever they want, um, [00:39:15] through election day. So, but then if you, in most states, when you do a mail-in ballot, it has to be received.
You know, on election day, and if it's not received, doesn't count, right? California says, no, it can be as long as it's mailed by election day. We're gonna [00:39:30] give another seven days after that. So in case the post office screws up in case you screwed up and you were late, whatever it is, um, you got up to seven days to to get that.
Ballot counted after the election's over. So I guess ultimately my hot take [00:39:45] is, you know, structure always dictates behavior. And if your, the structure of your state is to be able to, you know, provide a safe and effective way to vote and to count the votes [00:40:00] that I think the citizenry will adjust to that.
And there's no fraud in that case that you hear about at least. Um, so Florida, nobody's crying about the votes down there. Nobody cried about North Carolina. Nobody cried about Pennsylvania. Obviously, on the [00:40:15] flip side you know, nobody seems to care if you're in California that this works because that's the structure that they, they set up out there.
But I think at the end. Of the day. If your intent is to get these votes cast as, as as [00:40:30] encountered as, as quickly as possible, then obviously some of these states need to potentially change their election laws. Um, and maybe there's some guidelines, um, that can be put down, um, going forward, um, as recommendations from the, the federal [00:40:45] government.
But you know, it's probably something that. From a hot take perspective, I don't see it getting resolved, you know, in the next election. So we'll probably up again till, you know, three or four in the morning. But thankfully I did not do that. Um, at midnight. I call it quits. Good for [00:41:00] you. I went to bed.
Good for you. Well, I think too, there was a benefit to this election, the most recent one because it, there really didn't leave any question that, whether or not the voting. May have that, that had to go back for a [00:41:15] recount. Nobody questioned the outcome in this case recently though, they have, right? So you have to go back and there were a lot of accusations.
Covid was in there as well. But Jim, we used to have election day. You'd go in on election day and nobody [00:41:30] complained about it that I'm aware of. And you, you've cast your vote and you're right by 10 o'clock. Everybody knew who won. Um, that has been mucked up pretty good. You have early voting, you have mail-in and.
And now it's to everybody, not just the military or somebody [00:41:45] out of so I don't How do you combat any of them? Or is, do you need to? Well, I just think if you want to, and you, you brought up an excellent point, which I didn't bring up before. If you really wanna maintain the integrity of an election process Mm-Hmm.
Then you have to [00:42:00] figure out a way to timely process count and report the votes. Right. Right. I think on the front end, you can easily. Solve that issue of who [00:42:15] can vote and who can't vote, um, based on what your requirements are. But I think it gets muddled because nobody's really focusing as much on the, I shouldn't say nobody is, a lot of states are, but there are some states that don't really seem to care about [00:42:30] the backend and why that is, is beyond me, because I, to me, that is a, a much bigger issue from a country perspective.
Um, then the front end is, and I think in this day and age you have to have an ID to [00:42:45] get on a plane to go get a renewal license to passports, to whatever. And for some reason, some states don't have voter id. But again, I'm not gonna get into that today. I just simply, I. Think that, you know, that that's a front end issue that a [00:43:00] lot of states focus on and they should really be focused on the backend issue.
'cause that's where I think people, you know, starts questioning whether or not our elections are are fair. And Yeah. When that happens, that's, that's a big problem. Yeah. And I, you know, I love what France does. They have two [00:43:15] rounds, you know, they, um, over weekend, they vote like in June mm-Hmm. And then they vote again in August.
And now their system's a little bit different than ours. Um, because they're, um, you know, they, they vote for like the top three or four and then, then there's another top two after that, et [00:43:30] cetera, et cetera. But, um, there isn't any mail-in, um, you know, it's done. Um, you go, you do it, and you go back again and do it again two months later.
I'm not advocating we go to the France model, but I am advocating that, um, in a way it might be [00:43:45] cool just to have a holiday. Yeah, a three day weekend. Do a veteran's holiday. Yeah. Veteran's Day on the November 11th and that is the election day also beautiful. Um, maybe make it on a Monday maybe it's not the 11th, but it's that second Monday of the month and polls open on Saturday.
You [00:44:00] got three days and a holiday, you know, to go vote. I love that idea, but again, that's a federal issue, not a state issue. Um, so then you're getting into, you know, areas that, um, the feds might be overstepping their bounds, but, um, that's my hot take. [00:44:15] That's a, it's a good hot take. You know, when a, when people begin to question the election and they mistrust the outcome, you know, you, you have big problems and.
Then even worse is when you have a [00:44:30] group of people, Jim, who really support a particular candidate and are so fearful of another, that they have made a promise. They've, they've, they said, I am leaving the country. And, and some of these folks I like, I like to, to, [00:44:45] to watch them or listen to their music and it seems to come around now every election cycle.
I mean, this is not new, but there was quite a long list this time, Jim. Yeah, I don't know if these celebrities are just venting. [00:45:00] Um, and they will be so upset if their candidate doesn't win, that they'll have to move. Oh. Or if they're, um, what's the word I'm looking for? If they are doing it to try to influence other people to vote for their candidate, but [00:45:15] they're really not gonna leave at the end.
So I went back and I, there was a lot of hysteria in 2016 mm-Hmm. And of course in 2020, but I want to go back eight years 'cause. The same candidate won in 16. That won in 24. Right. And so I kind of, I looked at Brian [00:45:30] Cranson, you know, the breaking bad guy. Yeah. And 16, he said he was walking out the door.
Yep. And he's not coming back. I miss him. He still here? He's still here, believe it or not. I think he might have, um, decided to leave again this time. So I don't know. He did say he might retire in [00:45:45] France in 26, but this was back in 16. Okay. So maybe he technically will leave in two more years and retire in France.
But he's still here and still here. I think he's still doing some shows that I watched recently too, and I love him as an actor. Oh, I do too. Think he's phenomenal. Um, Lena Dunham, um, oh yeah. [00:46:00] Back in 2016 she was walking out the door. Um, she didn't, but in 21, I think she you know, has a boyfriend or maybe she's married and, and he's from.
London. So she did move to London in 21, so I'll give her like a a half a pass at this point in time. Okay. [00:46:15] Some of these people I never heard of. There's a guy named Nyo. Oh no. He said he was blowing out the door too, but he went from Georgia to Los Angeles, so he's still in the in the country as well.
Barbara Streisand. LA is kind of a different country though. Just if you wanna true. Give a little extra credit [00:46:30] point there. Barbara Streisand. Um, she's still here. Yeah, she is, isn't she? She threatened to walk in 16 and I think she threatened again in 24. So again, we'll see what happens. She's a little longer in the tooth though, so I'm not sure.
You know, she might not wanna leave. Raven. Um, [00:46:45] Uhhuh got me on that one. Yes. So she's still here. Okay. Um, some guy named Josh Gad. I have no idea who he is, but, um. You know, if you guys are watching out there and you think I'm a nut, you know, I get it. But Josh Gads still here. Amy Schumer's still here.
[00:47:00] Um, old Snoop Snoop's gotten wildly popular the last year. Oh man. Year we saw him. The Olympics. Yeah. You know, cheering people on and he is in every commercial knowing the mankind. Now he is on the Martha Stewart documentary on Netflix. Um, I wanna say there was something between [00:47:15] Martha and Snoop Dogg.
Could have been, I don't know. I'm just saying that's what I heard. Um, he's still here. He's still here. Still here. I'll telling him 16. And I don't think he threatened to leave this time, but he was pumped in 16 because California at the time legalized marijuana and he's a big advocate of [00:47:30] marijuana. So maybe that's what kept him, you know, in the US going forward, I would think his bank account probably did too, since he seems to be doing everything these days.
And by the way, I like the guy. I think he's kind of funny. Oh, I do too. Not a big fan of his music, but I kinda like the guy, um, Samuel Jackson. Oh, wow. [00:47:45] Really? Yeah. He threatened to leave. Oh yeah. He was ready to rock. Wow. Yeah. By the way, a lot of these people are gonna go to Canada, and I saw a meme today with two Canadian mounts at the border, and one says to the other, I.
You see any celebrities and the other guy goes, not yet. But [00:48:00] anyhow, he's still sticking around. Um, Rob Reiner, who I think had a meltdown, oh yeah, a month or so ago, he said he was leaving. So we'll see what happens. Well, there now that guy was cast so well. In the family. Oh yeah. Yeah. I mean he truly is.
Yeah. As he was. So, yeah. [00:48:15] And he's a great director too. Um, oh, he is. Great. Movies and Springsteen, New Jersey born. Yeah, that was that was tough. Yeah, he was ready to go. Not, not in 16. He is ready to go now. He said. Yeah, I know. You know, so. The guy tour still at 75 or 76. He's [00:48:30] unbelievably, you know, vibrant as a, that age person.
He's healthy. He's, um, does great shows, still plays for three and a half hours. Yeah. Amazing. Most of them, those venues are in the US so. Mm-Hmm. You know, even if he does move someplace else, he's still [00:48:45] gonna be in the country a lot. But we'll see what happens. I think he loves New Jersey and all that stuff, so, you know, you never know Bradley Whitford, you know who the guy that played, um.
West Wing, years and years ago. Oh yeah. I think he actually thinks that he's was a politician, [00:49:00] you know, in the West Wing. He was hysterically threatening to leave also. And he is distraught now, by the way, if you go on and exit, exit and look him up. Um, but I think what's probably gonna happen at the end of the day is the same amount of people that left in 2016 are gonna [00:49:15] leave again at 24.
Well, the threat seems hollowed, Jim. You know, um, has anybody ever left? I mean, and I'm serious 'cause I, I know the LA Times just did a piece on people out in [00:49:30] California who were threatening to leave the United States if, um, Donald Trump was elected. So, but I'm just wondering, it is not the first time that's happened.
If any of these people ever leave, and why do you make a threat you're not gonna follow through on that? Seems to be, from a tactical [00:49:45] perspective, not good. I think, unfortunately. They're human beings just like everybody else. Emotional. And they probably take themselves way too seriously. Yeah. Like we probably all do.
Yeah. And they're not thinking before they say. Mm-Hmm. And um, they also think that [00:50:00] they're, because they've been celebrities and they're famous and they got a platform and lots of money, they probably think people actually, I. They can influence people. Mm-Hmm. And I think a lot of people, majority just know that they're just really good at a trade, which is acting.
And [00:50:15] just like somebody's really good at banking, just like somebody's really good at producing podcasts, um, just like somebody's really good at, um, broadcasting, um, or making tea, um, it doesn't mean you're, that's your, that's your. Your identity just simply means [00:50:30] you're good at one thing. Right. You know, and you could be terrible at everything else.
So unfortunately, as I say, sometimes you fly a little too close to the sun, you wax melts off your wings and you drop right down in the ground and you're basically Icarus at that point in time. So [00:50:45] I find 'em humorous. Um, so in this way it's kind of a positive hot take. 'cause I think at the end of the day, we're living a great country.
Right. Well, I do too. And if these people have all these things at their fingertips, where are they gonna go? I mean, I mean that's true. There's not [00:51:00] a why a country like this one. Right. And on top of that, if you're really that good of an actor, just go out and do a great job acting because no matter what, half those people that are gonna watch you don't believe in your politics.
Right. That is true. [00:51:15] And I wanted to ask you, because you're a, you're a very successful businessman by anybody, whether it be actors, singers. Broadcast facilities, whatever, would choose one side over another. Bruce Springsteen for instance, you know, he came up for Kamala Harris, [00:51:30] which is fine. But then you have the other half of your audience who, who may be impacted by that.
You say certain things. Why would you want to lose half your, your fan base, for instance? Maybe they don't, at the end of the day, [00:51:45] maybe they don't. Okay, but. I don't know. I mean, I, I think I'm okay with, you know, you having your opinion on Oh absolutely. Whoever you wanna vote for. Oh, of course, whatever. Um, but, you know, you can't dismiss the other [00:52:00] half that disagree with your politics.
They're just as important to this country as the people that did that agree with you. And obviously we saw that, you know, in the past, you know, couple days and. Um, I think at the end of [00:52:15] the day, if I'm Bruce, I'm like, Hey, I, I like Kamala, here's why. But I love everybody and I just want this. There you go, country to be as great as possible.
And I think she could get us there. Um, but if it doesn't happen that way, we're gonna do great. You know, it's okay because we're all Americans [00:52:30] and we're all great, and we're gonna go out and just live our lives and try to make our kids and make everybody around us better human beings. I agree with you.
We have more in common than we, we don't, I, I just wish more people. We drink tea though, because Me too. It [00:52:45] it is absolutely delicious today. I mean, it's, it's one of the better ones that you've brought in and, um. Have I thought more clearly since I've been drinking the tea and doing the podcast. Yeah. You seem to be pretty sharp right now.
See? I thought so. Yeah, I felt that too. Yeah, absolutely. But yeah, 50 [00:53:00] cups tea.com. Yep. Um, since we talked a lot about plastics today, we do have our detox brand. Beautiful. Which I unfortunately didn't bring in today because I ran out. But we're making some another batch at this point in time. But that'll help detox your body as well.
So Wonderful. Jim, as [00:53:15] always a pleasure. Thank you for doing the research and giving us your hot takes. [00:53:30] [00:53:45] [00:54:00]