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Welcome to Gem Mint & Authentic, the official Burbank Sportscards podcast.
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Okay. So welcome to JEMMIT in AUTHENTIC, a podcast about collecting for collectors from collectors like ourselves. We've got Rob Veres, the card father, and comedy legend Jeff Garlin, and me, the card daughter. And we're gonna be talking hot takes about the industry, vintage, everything in between. So to start out, we are actually talking about something pretty interesting just before we hit record.
Speaker 1:Yes. But Jeff, you're talking about you have a bid on something.
Speaker 2:Yes. There's a there's a modern Trinity which I think is Matthew Schaefer. What's a kid on San Jose. Oh yeah. Back when celebrating.
Speaker 2:Yeah. And Bedard. I think that that's the current we'll see how they do. Right. But that but if you go back to modern era, current, the big players, big three are Sydney Crosby, which I have a 10 young guns, which is the rookie card.
Speaker 2:I have McDavid, 10 young guns, and I'm trying to get a a vetskin. Is that right? I said it right. Yes. Trying to get a vetskin because that's the trio of that in a 10.
Speaker 2:And I'm currently in a I don't go in these an auction. I don't often on eBay going to the I don't often go eBay. But you know you always look when you're on eBay. I will say this if you're looking for a card especially a graded card worth any amount decent amount of money look for it's speaking of authentic that it's authenticated. Like, y'all do that at eBay.
Speaker 2:So when you get it, it's the real deal.
Speaker 3:It's good.
Speaker 2:As opposed to somebody because I once got a card that was a lie. It was a real card. Right. But it was this one, Kareem card that was like a thing, but still a valuable card, but they said it was one of one. It was one of one.
Speaker 1:And You're you're bidding on the whole
Speaker 2:whole Trinity, though. Won the dispute. Yeah. Which is like and you really don't have much recourse. Right.
Speaker 2:So much better to come in here, get something. Thousand percent. And the idea that you guys would even think you'd sell a card that wasn't genuine. And if someone came back, you'd be horrified
Speaker 3:Horrified.
Speaker 2:And try and make it up the best way you can. Yeah. But that's why you come to a great hobby shop like Burbank's. Hi. Today's show is brought to you by Burbank's sports cards.
Speaker 2:We're in the title.
Speaker 1:So wait. Are these like grail cards for you?
Speaker 2:Yeah. I care because I love hockey. Yeah. And I love the Blackhawks. So I love a hall rookie, a Makita rookie.
Speaker 2:Don't have those. Tony Esposito. But, so the Ovechkin, I think are worth about around $4. Mhmm. A little bit more.
Speaker 2:Like if you were doing a buy it now. And I did a thing where I thought all right put up a large amount of money that is still $500 than what it's worth. So if I get it great. You know, somebody wants to go high just like to buy it now price. I'm like, do you like the adventure of an auction?
Speaker 3:Right.
Speaker 2:Do you like saving $25? You know, there's an ill, but people do that too.
Speaker 3:Well, you know, the thing is like the Ovechkin PSA 10, that card will come up again, But then you go back to the holy trinity before that.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 3:And and who would it be? To me, Vintage would probably be Gordie Howe, Wayne Gretzky, and Bobby Orr. I mean, those would be my three. You might go with Bobby Hall
Speaker 2:being in Chicago. Would rank all three of those higher than Bobby Hall. Yeah. I really would. Yeah.
Speaker 2:Bobby Hall just means something.
Speaker 3:Of course.
Speaker 2:But, yeah, I would say that's the holy trinity of the early years.
Speaker 3:Now if those came up in a PSA 10, which I'm not even sure
Speaker 2:But we're talking
Speaker 3:about any of them exist. Yeah.
Speaker 2:But the but, you know, the or and the Gretzky, who is the other one?
Speaker 3:How?
Speaker 2:How? Mhmm. How I I think it'd all be worth a ton. Yeah. But whatever they're worth would be undervalued by a million dollars.
Speaker 2:Yeah. Yeah. I mean, because the equivalent in baseball or football or basketball Right. Of those guys
Speaker 3:Mhmm.
Speaker 2:You're it's not, Yeah. You know, I could see alright. Look. A really successful dentist can pay the full price Right. For a, the rarest Ohtani rookie.
Speaker 2:A dentist is just getting started. Get the Gordie. Yeah. And
Speaker 3:you know what? I don't even remember the last Gordie Howe rookie that came in here. It could be five years ago. Bobby or same thing. You know, they just don't come in in any condition, right?
Speaker 3:And I think the difference between hockey collect collectors and baseball, basketball, and football collectors is most times with hockey, that's all they collect. Yeah. And if they collect it, it's not something they flip out of it. It's something that they cherished. And I think it's just different with hockey.
Speaker 2:Well, by the way, with hockey, even there's one rookie card. Like, there are other rookie cards
Speaker 3:Mhmm.
Speaker 2:That are valuable. Don't get me wrong, but young guns is like it's like when we, it's like having a Ferguson Jenkins rookie.
Speaker 3:It's the
Speaker 2:only one. Then It's the only one. Yeah. You know? And I went for him because I'm a cubs fan, but that I love that era.
Speaker 2:Now, I mean, any player who comes out now is worth this thing. Forty, fifty rookie first Bowman Festival. There's a lot to choose from. There's lot to choose from. But what's consistent, though?
Speaker 2:Topps Chrome. Yeah. Mhmm. Topps Chrome is the rookie card that will you know, without a special refractor. Yeah.
Speaker 2:That's the rookie card of note. Yes.
Speaker 3:Yes. And it's good that we have that. It's a tremendous product every single year. Sell through a hell of a lot of
Speaker 2:that stuff. Tried to collect sets of
Speaker 3:that. Okay.
Speaker 2:But it was kind of like, why am I doing this?
Speaker 3:If you're gonna put it in a binder and pages and flip through it every year, not could see exactly.
Speaker 2:Because I have, like, for example, I bought the 74 set here at the old location. And then I have a sixty nine seventy and seventy one all in good condition. None of them. And yeah, I'll sit through those and look, you think I'm gonna look through the 2024 tops chrome? No.
Speaker 2:No. No. So now I just do players. There's two kinds of players for me. One's where it's like, oh, that's worth a lot.
Speaker 2:I'm gonna sell it as soon as possible. Right. And the other is, oh, that's worth a lot. That's a player I like. Right.
Speaker 2:And I just keep it. Yeah. Like, I've got some great, but Bobby Witt, one of one. Wow. Rated to 10 rookies.
Speaker 2:Damn. And it's like, but I got them here. Yeah. A long time ago. Yep.
Speaker 2:You know, like, when he first you know, that's the thing. If you have a player, you see that you're like a rookie. Uh-huh. Get him while you can. Yeah.
Speaker 2:When they first come out.
Speaker 3:Yeah. You gotta be early.
Speaker 2:That's for sure.
Speaker 3:Yeah. Yeah. You gotta do a little bit of research, but you gotta be early.
Speaker 2:Yeah. That's another thing too is the research, you know, but I love the way, the people come in early in the morning for the Yeah. For the Those showroom exclusives? What? Those are the first four.
Speaker 2:Oh, no. They're all. They go along here. I got six of them. Newest ones are at the end.
Speaker 3:Yeah. The two at the end are the most expensive ones. Those are basically our best recent purchases. People make a beeline right there in the morning to get because they're exclusive in the showroom for twenty four hours, then we pull them. They go to burbankcards.com.
Speaker 2:Some the some of the cards I saw that were out there that I didn't have an interest in. I can't remember what it was. Yeah. I found in the regular baseball.
Speaker 3:Yeah. Because it'll rotate over to the alphabetical showcase. Yeah. So some really there's a system to it. And the key is you always wanna have fresh inventory.
Speaker 3:Nobody wants to go to a store where I saw the same stuff last week or last month.
Speaker 2:And that looks By the way, that's the majority of time in card shops. Yeah. That's what you see, but they don't have the resources you have. This is true. And so I love like, if you had we we've discussed this before.
Speaker 2:If you had a chain like there was two or three others Yeah. I wouldn't be as loyal as I am to this shop. Yeah. It being my shop because it's one of one.
Speaker 3:Thank you.
Speaker 2:It really but you know that, but you still have such enthusiasm. Here's the thing. Your family works here. You care deeply. Yeah.
Speaker 2:I don't care how successful your restaurant is. If you want to move on and have it be quality, you turn it over to your kids. Yeah. Your best friend, like somebody who's, like, passionate. Right.
Speaker 2:Because otherwise, it's going to hell in a handbasket. Yeah. Yeah. You know?
Speaker 3:You build the reputation over decades. Yeah.
Speaker 2:You know? And,
Speaker 3:you know, you don't survive in a business. I've owned it for thirty seven years now with the family, and it's like, it's reputations, everything that's been amplified in the last five, ten years with social media, with Yelp, and a bad experience before is just between you and me. We had a bad experience now.
Speaker 2:Wait, we did.
Speaker 3:Yeah. Well, are
Speaker 2:you talking using me as an example? Okay. We did not have a we've never had a bad experience
Speaker 3:that was on me but seriously, now with social media and talking heads and Instagram, you know, it goes out everywhere, and it's not, you know, in the and thankfully, in all these years, we've never really had something that went viral of you know? Cause we try to make every interaction a positive interaction. Right. We try to make this a destination where people come here and they become 14 years old again.
Speaker 2:This has happened before. Someone from somewhere, West Coast Yeah. Wherever Southwest flies, flies into Burbank Airport. They come here. They fly out at Burbank Airport.
Speaker 3:They'll come here with their suitcase still, Jeff. Before they even check into a hotel, they'll come here. And I joke that I have a bell desk where, you know, if you wanna put those, I can just put those in my office
Speaker 2:if I you like. Really think you should have kept the pharmacist. This is a former Rite Aid. Yeah. You should have kept the pharmacy department, and if people write prescriptions, I have a prescription for a a rookie Ohtani.
Speaker 2:Yeah. You know, that was a great we got.
Speaker 3:And we had the 50 ice cream as well. You know, it's like, you
Speaker 2:know, by the way, you legally couldn't have kept that, could you?
Speaker 3:No. No
Speaker 2:way. Because that would be so cool. That would be really cool. You'd have to have like a hand washing area that everyone can see so people don't have dripped ice cream on their hands.
Speaker 3:On the car. This is true. Yeah.
Speaker 1:But I am curious, though.
Speaker 3:I know
Speaker 1:you said, like, obviously, we don't have any other locations. Did you ever think about at one point making other locations for BURBANK card?
Speaker 3:You know what? I have a story. The word is never, but there was one opportunity that did come up to me. Dodgers, one of the folks that works with the Dodgers organization came to my store thirty years ago and asked us if we'd be interested in having a shop at Dodger Stadium. And of course, being 25, 26 years old, I'm like, oh my god.
Speaker 3:Oh my god. That would be like the greatest thing ever. And it was a gift shop at the top of the park that they had some space or they had some showcases and I'm like, this would be amazing and then you find out that you have to be open every single day of the year, not just when there's games going on. You know? Oh, yeah.
Speaker 3:And they take 40% of the sale. That's why everything's so expensive. When you come into Dodger Stadium, they take a huge chunk. And in a business like
Speaker 2:this Twenty six, you made that great of a decision by not doing it.
Speaker 3:They're not doing it because god. Knee jerk is like, oh my god. Whatever it takes,
Speaker 2:I'm gonna
Speaker 3:be in there.
Speaker 2:Yeah. They asked me to sell my baseball card collection at the entrance to pirates of The Caribbean at Disneyland. Oh. And I thought to myself, they said I could keep 99%. But then I thought, people going on the pirates of the Caribbean ride, are they looking for Rico Cardi?
Speaker 3:Rico Cardi.
Speaker 1:Rico Cardi.
Speaker 3:I love. I love that. But that was that was the one thing where I actually actually had the thought. But, I mean, really, the thought process is this isn't like a chain clothing store or a Burger King that can be replicated. This is something in my opinion that really can't
Speaker 2:It would take so much work to replicate this. Much work. Yeah. Work that you don't like, who would you have do the work? Yeah.
Speaker 2:Who would you have run the store? Yeah. It's a that's a lot.
Speaker 3:Now you're split not just splitting your inventory. You're splitting your talent. Right. And my talent is what
Speaker 2:built this business here and, you know, even though I go into a lot of card shops, you know, and they'll have the same as last, especially vintage. Yeah I still love being there and supporting them. I just went into a new I wanna give them a hype, a new card shop in Detroit. I'll look it up while we're talking, but they were great. Yeah.
Speaker 2:And they were really new. Like, they had, like, still, like, paint patches on the wall. You know what I mean? Like, but they had all the cards. Did you like, so I I have a question about the industry.
Speaker 2:This is very Shoot. Okay. So these guys told me, and I've heard from other that they can't get new product from fanatics. They can't get new top spread.
Speaker 3:True.
Speaker 2:Why? Why is that?
Speaker 3:Why is that? Well,
Speaker 1:they closed accounts.
Speaker 3:Yeah, they basically stopped giving new accounts, product. They're just maxed out with the amount of product and the amount of dealers that
Speaker 2:they have. So I understand the new one, but I know old dealers who are who are not
Speaker 3:don't even get me wound up, Jeff.
Speaker 2:Well, no, that's the purpose
Speaker 3:of this. It's true.
Speaker 2:It's right. Yeah, no, Hobby shops are the bread and butter of this industry.
Speaker 3:We built the industry.
Speaker 2:Look, I'm all for Target or in, or Myers in in Detroit in the Midwest. Sure. I'm all for that. I love going there and getting cards.
Speaker 3:I am
Speaker 2:too, but that's a different thing because look that that's for someone who starts collecting or is just looking for fun because they do collect. Whereas you come in the store, and there's almost for the most people you go into a hobby shop. There's a purpose, right? There might even be one card you're looking for.
Speaker 3:They would not even find a hobby shop if they it's it's jaded for me to think that people get their first experience buying cards in this building. Chances are their first purchase is at retail. And that's what gets them in that has the price points. And you know how many people go through a Walmart or target every year staggering, so I'm all for them being loaded up with retail product. That's not the problem to me.
Speaker 3:The problem is when I have a friend that's had a store for thirty years, and he's not getting more than one case of this. They're not getting that. It's wrong. It's to me. It's wrong anyways, because the product seems to be going more and more to folks that do things online.
Speaker 2:And it goes to the pool people
Speaker 3:because of the breakers, right?
Speaker 2:You know, I just that's just it's just look every industry. It's about money. I mean, of course there, but there's joy in this place.
Speaker 3:Yes.
Speaker 2:And there's joy in other card shops. I go to Certainly. Where people have their favorite place. Like the shop I just went into. Let me just look it up.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Yeah. And on that topic too, we've we've done something to try to combat a lot of this with the breaking the seals on, new products. Yeah. You wanted to talk about that too because like
Speaker 3:we could get into that too, but I think really, and I think we try to prove the point in this store every single day is that folks want physical experiences. They want to visit a destination. And I think people are just starting to get away from, I don't wanna experience this hobby through my phone. Yeah. I wanna experience this hobby with my hands on cards.
Speaker 3:Mhmm. And we shoot videos all the time in here where we show that there's a 100 people in the shop on a Friday And why is that? Because they love the experience more so. And I think being able to touch cards and being able to look at the showcases, now you feel like you're 12, 14 years old.
Speaker 2:Without a doubt. And that's when a lot of us started collect. I started collecting at eight.
Speaker 3:Uh-huh. Me
Speaker 2:too. Yeah. No. Seven. Okay.
Speaker 2:You beat me. 1969.
Speaker 3:He wanted to win. I get
Speaker 2:it. No. No. 1969 was my first. I was seven years old.
Speaker 3:Uh-huh.
Speaker 2:Yeah. And so that's a memory. And then I remember going to, like, a seven eleven that's called can be was called convenient. I don't know if they exist anymore. I go down the convenience store.
Speaker 2:I get my Thor comic books, etcetera, Hulk, and I get my tops baseball cards. I get the three. Oh, the rack back. Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 2:I get regular pick. I mean, I just went nuts. And by the way, was the thought of me reselling these even part of the equation? No. No.
Speaker 2:Was me keeping them in the most beautiful condition? Maybe my favorite like an Ernie Banks. I might want to keep it nice. Right? That probably would have been the phrase that I would use.
Speaker 2:Yes, I want to keep this nice. It's not going into my spokes. Right? Right. You know, on my on my bike, of course, we're all timey.
Speaker 2:So you're you're younger than me, right?
Speaker 3:A little bit. Yeah. Yeah. 1974. I would have been eight and growing up in Boston.
Speaker 3:Fred Lynn, Carl Gustremsky. Jim Rose were my guy, Jim Rice, the Gold Dust Twins. They called him Rice and Lynn. But, yeah, Pudge, El Teante. Great teams.
Speaker 3:El Teante. Yeah. El Teante.
Speaker 2:Oh my god. That pitching motion. Yeah, just what a character.
Speaker 3:Yeah And you know, it's one of those things where it's it wasn't just, you know, the ice cream hours where I got a lot of the packs of cards and I had a friend group.
Speaker 2:Fortunately, know that I never was able to my ice cream guy was good humor. Uh-huh. And they did not have cards. Yeah, but I know I've heard that from people they got from the
Speaker 3:ice
Speaker 2:cream
Speaker 3:man. The beautiful thing is I had a friend group where you know the trading obviously. Was a big thing with us. And you know, at first, it wasn't about trying to get the complete set because financially, I don't think I ever would have had that much allowance to be able to allow me to get that many cards from a given year. Right?
Speaker 3:And packs were, you know, 10¢, you know, maybe they became 15¢ when I became 10 or 12 years old. But that was like all the money in the world when your mom gave you some money. Some money might have been 25¢.
Speaker 2:I was angry enough that I tried to build the set. Yeah. It was early. And by the way, I had tons of cards. Mhmm.
Speaker 2:And I have my sad card story, which I don't want to get into. Yeah. But, yeah, it's, there's joy here. Yeah. And that's what you want.
Speaker 2:Okay. It was Motor City Sports and Collectibles. Okay. In in West Bloomfield, Michigan, and it was fantastic. They were great guys.
Speaker 3:I love visiting other shops.
Speaker 2:Oh, of course, but they had a joy when you go into a card shop and they care. Uh-huh. I've got I went to a card shop recently. One person's in the corner doing the polls. Uh-huh.
Speaker 2:You know, the breaking. Yeah. Another one is just just in a zombie way. Yeah. And I'd asked them about very well known players.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 2:They had no idea who they were.
Speaker 3:Right. And that's okay because you just met one of my kids. He's been here a week, but you need to be able to ask someone else that does know somebody needs to be in that
Speaker 2:building enthusiasm. Yes. What's his name? I want to give him credit.
Speaker 3:Oh, it's it's Chris. It's Chris. Yes. Chris. Put me on the spot
Speaker 2:with a new kid. He only knows soccer. Yeah. He didn't know who Walter Payton was. Right.
Speaker 2:But I wasn't angry. You know, he's young.
Speaker 3:He's 17 years old.
Speaker 2:Know? I said, you should I said, you know, would be fun, and I think he should do this. I go basketball, football, baseball. You don't know hockey. Yeah.
Speaker 2:I said, why don't you just pick a player whose box you see here in the VIP section of getting not comments, but great players. Like, you'll see Dick Butkus. Yeah. Why don't you go look up Dick Butkus on, what he who he is, what he was, and then watch Dick Butkus highlights on YouTube.
Speaker 3:Sure.
Speaker 2:That's a great way to experience. Almost definitely. He won't listen to me because he's young.
Speaker 3:Can I imagine having that technology when we were
Speaker 2:kids? Stop. Do you know what? Okay. Here's what technology meant to me.
Speaker 2:Okay. And I'm telling you when I was 13, I got a calculator as a gift. Yeah. And it was, it was black with green numbers. Okay.
Speaker 2:And you know how you could put certain numbers. Hello. Yeah. Right. I did that for hours underneath my blanket.
Speaker 2:Yeah. I was just like, I was like, how? How does it know how to add? That was also Yeah.
Speaker 3:And then when the digital watches and Mattel
Speaker 2:the football,
Speaker 3:I mean, that was the technology
Speaker 2:and you're like going Wow to that technology.
Speaker 3:I'm like, wow, they actually just flashed. How do they flash the score on the screen of the baseball game? This was like the limited technology that we had back then.
Speaker 1:A B s challenge like cameras and everything like so high-tech.
Speaker 3:I mean, yeah, but you look back if we had YouTube, we didn't. You know, it's like kids growing up,
Speaker 2:but also. With YouTube. Now you can go experience any memory that
Speaker 3:you want. Unbelievable.
Speaker 2:Most, take a, what's the adjective? I'm looking for obscure. Yeah, Kids show that you might have watched in your area. Yeah. And it'll be on YouTube.
Speaker 2:Yeah. It'll be on YouTube. It is amazing. It's jaw dropping something. It really is.
Speaker 2:It really
Speaker 1:is. Both been collecting since you're super duper young. Do each of you have like the most like a meaningful card in your collection that still like sticks with you?
Speaker 2:Great question. My from back then. Mhmm. I have, I would say the card that brought me the most excitement Mhmm. As a kid when I was collecting, I own was 1970 with the gray borders, Ernie Banks.
Speaker 2:Mhmm. That card, I see it. I used to collect I used to put it in my wallet. Sure. I get it all the time.
Speaker 2:Keep it in my wallet. It brought me so much happiness that card. I thought it would. I couldn't believe it. Yeah.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 3:Tough card too. A little bit. It's up in the higher numbers too. So it's a little trickier to come by.
Speaker 2:Yeah. Yeah. But but mines just was the one if I had doubles, believe me, that was a trading chip. Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 2:No doubt. That was like, especially kid in Chicago. Look, I love getting Billy Williams and all the other guys.
Speaker 3:He's got there any banks pulled up right there.
Speaker 2:It is. Alright. Will So you insert that into the thing?
Speaker 3:Oh, definitely. So exciting.
Speaker 2:This card Mhmm. Is is my this is the card that did it all for me. Yeah. Like, when I pulled this from a pack Mhmm. I ran home.
Speaker 2:Yeah. I was I was beside myself.
Speaker 1:So excited.
Speaker 2:Oh my god. And look at him. He just joy Joy. Thoughts out that, you know, that's the thing about him that look. He's a hall of famer, 500 homers, all that stuff.
Speaker 2:But all you know, look. All players play with a degree of joy. Right. That guy was pure joy. Yeah.
Speaker 2:Let's play too. Right. You gotta take a few steps back to get a running start. Like he said, these, and you already used to do because I I hosted his eightieth birthday party in Chicago, which was like, is this really me? Yeah.
Speaker 2:And then talking to the Billy Williams, all the guys. But the joy in which he played the game really just separated from the pack no matter how great. Oh, I was saying later years. Separate from the pack. He would say, how's your wife?
Speaker 2:How's your girlfriend? Everyone who came by, how's your wife? How's your girlfriend? I swear. So good.
Speaker 2:That was a that was a big one. And then I ran into him outside the outside the hotel I was staying at. This is the latter years of his life. Here's what he was asking everybody. Are you a vegetarian?
Speaker 2:Are you a vegetarian? But I'm talking about I'm standing there, and it was at least 50. Mhmm. Are you a vegetarians? Yeah.
Speaker 2:And then then so let's you say yes. Yes. What's that like?
Speaker 3:Being a vegetarian? Yeah.
Speaker 2:Yeah. I'm saying that's what he would do. Oh, yeah. Someone said yes. Because most people don't say yes.
Speaker 2:Yes. You know, what's that like? I mean Funny guy. But he wasn't meaning to be funny.
Speaker 3:Right. Right.
Speaker 2:That's the point. He was generally he was curious. Yeah. Oh. And, you know, he thought he obviously had thought about how's your wife?
Speaker 2:How's your girlfriend? Right. It might have been wife mother. I don't remember. Yeah.
Speaker 2:But the point is that he thought of that, and he thought this is a nice thing to say. Yes, too. And I'm curious. I wonder.
Speaker 3:Yeah. Yeah. I love that.
Speaker 2:That's a
Speaker 1:great answer.
Speaker 2:Yeah. That's a
Speaker 3:great answer. I think with me, I mean, 75 tops was my first set that I fell in love
Speaker 2:with. You
Speaker 3:know, I was nine years old. And I mean, the red sox were everything to me and getting those rookie cards with the four players and there's the Fred Lynn and Jim Rice.
Speaker 2:I'm the same one. If I'm not. No, they're
Speaker 3:they are different. I have
Speaker 2:both of those.
Speaker 3:Yeah. And I think those are probably my core memories of those are the cards I really wanted, and they probably meant the most to me. But just the colors, the designs.
Speaker 2:Oh, no. That was as colorful and delight. So my question to you is going back on you getting your things. Do you remember the first card you got at the top of a pack?
Speaker 3:You know, for some reason, I've I've said this in the past and it still sticks with me till this day. I think it was like a '74 tops Lee May. Oh. Well, it's probably the first car. It's just for some reason that's ingrained in my brain.
Speaker 3:Whether it's true or not, I don't know, but I I'm almost positive it is.
Speaker 2:Mine was a three the threes when they did the three on the card for 1975. They did four. Uh-huh. Three on the card. 1969, Don Young, and I forgot who the other players were.
Speaker 2:They probably were more had better careers than Don Young. Right. Don Young was the center fielder on the cubs who dropped the key ball during their big losing streak.
Speaker 3:Oh, when the Mets overtook him.
Speaker 2:And it was a key drop. And I don't think he ever recovered at a lot of levels. Did. And it was just like, by the way, little trivia. Lee May had a brother.
Speaker 2:You know, his brother was first baseman Chicago White Sox Carlos May. Carlos. Carlos May was missing a few fingers.
Speaker 3:Really? And
Speaker 1:he's still a first baseman.
Speaker 3:Yes. Yeah. Interesting story. No.
Speaker 1:Is interesting.
Speaker 3:I would never have got that. Honestly.
Speaker 1:Do you you both have any regrets of something that you didn't get when you were a kid or something that you may have thrown away
Speaker 3:or traded? My god. So here's here's the story, sweetheart. So,
Speaker 2:Don't show her more respect, sweetheart. What are you her father?
Speaker 3:I wish. True. No, Mel.
Speaker 1:That's my dad.
Speaker 3:She's a gem. So, so. And you're mint. I am mint. He so authentically said that.
Speaker 3:So, I collected cards as a kid, you know, but we were moving from Brockton, Massachusetts where I grew up to Glendale, California and as is a story for generations of us, cards were thrown out. Ours was, mine wasn't thrown out. Mine went at a garage sale
Speaker 2:Oh.
Speaker 3:For next to nothing. And so my whole collection
Speaker 2:Well, I I have a question for you. What were they in a shoebox at the garage sale?
Speaker 3:Of course, they were. Okay. Of course, they were.
Speaker 2:And how much per shoebox or per card?
Speaker 3:And I don't remember, but it was more than $2 for everything. I would have been shocked. Okay. Everything in a garage sale.
Speaker 2:That's my exact story moved from Chicago to South Florida.
Speaker 3:Uh-huh.
Speaker 2:And my mom had a garage sale with all my '69. Yeah. Some '68, '70, '71, '72, '73. We moved to '73. And we I used my mom would make me she didn't like me using all the shoe boxes, especially I would take her shoe boxes.
Speaker 2:You know at Baskin Robbins they have the tubs of the iceerman. Yeah. If you rinse those out you've got these empty tubs that are clean and right at last. So my mom said you're gonna keep your cards in there. So there were three buckets of cards.
Speaker 2:That's a lot of cards. Yes. Buckets in my garage sale when I moved 25¢ each bucket.
Speaker 3:Oh, yeah. They were deemed nonessential. My mom. That was the word I remember nonessential.
Speaker 2:Well, your mom was more intelligent than my mom. My mom. Here's the way my mom.
Speaker 3:Your grandma wasn't sure. I know that.
Speaker 2:I know that my mom. Here's where my mom. I'm not taking those. Jeffrey put them in the garage. There was no reason there as you know, man.
Speaker 1:I think my generation's version of that is like trading your like first edition Charizard for like another random card or like a granola bar or something. You're like, la
Speaker 2:la la. Well, I did that here at the store. I made I made, okay decision. Not bad. Mhmm.
Speaker 2:I had a one zero one Ohtani. It I'd been sitting at not a rookie because I have a refractor signed rookie Ohtani, but not a rookie. And I thought, well, you know, I wanna start, you know, and getting rid of stuff, you know? And I saw I I did research about how many one of ones of a county. There's a lot of them.
Speaker 2:Yeah. I didn't take into account the land of Japan and The United States Of America and Dodgers. So I traded it for a Michael Jordan rookie in grade eight which is a great card. Yeah. Only gonna go up.
Speaker 2:But my Ohtani I'm sure and I'm not even kidding at least doubled from when I traded it. At least I was, but that's, you know, I have severe ADHD and I'm bipolar. Mhmm. Things like that have happened to me in the past. Oh, I got news for and stuff.
Speaker 3:Imagine being a store owner in something like this for thirty seven years, and imagine the things that you have your hands on that in the normal course of business, you're buying and selling them, a lot of times the same day. And you think back to all the different things, and I think we've referenced the Hawaii deal. And if we haven't, we'll get into that. But You have a Hawaii deal?
Speaker 2:Yeah. I've got one for you. I own a hotel there. You and 16 of your best friends can stay there for the price of a barrel of baseball cards. That's right.
Speaker 2:You and all your friends one quarter, and you can stay there. By the way, we don't offer beds.
Speaker 3:Think we
Speaker 1:just signed up for a timeshare.
Speaker 3:I love that. You know, you think get into it. I think about you talking
Speaker 2:about like might be the least funny thing I've ever said on the show.
Speaker 3:No. I wanna was something in the first one.
Speaker 2:Okay. But I wanna I
Speaker 3:wanna
Speaker 2:also acknowledge that to our listeners. I'm, like, not sitting here going, oh, that was great. I'm going, Yeah, that wasn't worth the journey.
Speaker 3:Yeah. But I think that, you know, the the great story is the 52 tops baseball cards, the high numbers being sent out on a barge and New York Harbor and being put into the sea. But I think for dealers of my era, I think that the one we always kick ourselves over is 8687 FLIR. You talk about your Jordan rookie in an eight, but what people don't always understand were those were boxes of cards that nobody wanted back in '86 and they were literally on closeout at ten dollars a box and where you bring them in as a retailer, they'd be on the shelves at 50¢ a pack or $10 a box Literally. And that same goes for football boxes from '84, 8586.
Speaker 3:Everything was baseball back then. You know, even hockey boxes for the longest time really weren't worth anything. And you you sit there and think, what was I thinking? Jordan was in there. It was his first regular card.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 3:And there's three of them in a box to boot. But, you know, there's those regrets.
Speaker 2:At least one of them would have been a 10.
Speaker 3:Yeah. And you think about what would that case be worth today? Is there even a case even out there right now? But they were everywhere. And so you think about all the years, all the collections, all the fines, and it drives yourself nuts.
Speaker 3:But would I be in this building if I kept it all? No. No. Because over the course of the business, you've gotta buy, you gotta sell, you don't think twice.
Speaker 2:Okay. So let's say out of those cases, you pulled 25 Jordans. Yeah. You're gonna keep one if it's a 10.
Speaker 3:Well, yeah, I mean, but that
Speaker 2:was Michael Jordan. I'm just saying Right. No. They didn't grade then like all that. Right.
Speaker 2:I understand that. Yeah. But I'm saying, let's say you kept all those boxes. Mhmm. And you pulled 20 Jordans out of, a case.
Speaker 2:Right. And you send them all in to be graded. No matter what the grade you're selling them, but you would either you'd have two options. One is you'd hang on to the 10. Mhmm.
Speaker 2:Or you'd give it to me to hold for you.
Speaker 1:Two good options.
Speaker 3:Yeah. But you never even looked at the cards even that way so much. Obviously, meant was worth more than near mint, but the multiples of the price of something back then was very, very slim compared to what it could be now. Grading.
Speaker 2:I'll I'll give you, when I was a kid, there'd be hockey cards on the shelf, tops and OPG. Mhmm. And I was like, I'm buying tops. Right. Same exact cards.
Speaker 2:All the OPGs are worth a ton. Yeah. The tops are okay. Mhmm. But OPG rookies, are you kidding me?
Speaker 3:There's a whole of that
Speaker 1:was nuts. Right?
Speaker 3:Yeah. We have the Gretzky OPG. I think it was in a seven. It didn't last three hours in the store. It went into that showcase.
Speaker 2:Oh, by the way, you still have the one that I was looking at that I just can't do it.
Speaker 3:Just can't fool you.
Speaker 2:Ken Dryden. Oh. Oh my god. Pristine. Yeah.
Speaker 2:Pristine 10. 30 g's.
Speaker 3:30 g's. One of one. Yeah. You know? Yeah.
Speaker 3:But
Speaker 2:No. It's that you know? But, the other one is, and I think this is the dumbest one ever, was the 89 upper deck. Yeah. The excitement.
Speaker 2:Oh, yeah. That one, you couldn't keep on the shelves. That one, it would never stop moving.
Speaker 3:It it literally a month after taking over the businesses when those came out. And there was an outcry, if you can believe this, that our beloved packs were going from 50¢ to a dollar. They were doubling in price. Yeah. Because for the longest time, tops and Fleer and Donners, they were 50¢ a pack.
Speaker 3:Right. And the purists freaked out, but so many people that were new to the hobby because you gotta remember the hobby boomed in this era. Yeah. Just love the fact that these cards are gorgeous. These cards have a hologram.
Speaker 2:No. That that's what I thought. Thought they were beautiful cards. Beautiful cards. Realizing it was a big bowl of junk wax.
Speaker 2:You know? But Even even the the, Randy Johnson rookie, which is in there. Yeah. It's not worth that much. And by the way, when you think we're talking Ken Griffey junior Yeah.
Speaker 2:One of the greatest ever. Yeah. And his rookie card there even in a 10 is not worth if it came out now in a 10, you know, he's saying, it's just not worth. It's worth nickels on the dollar. Yeah.
Speaker 2:You know, it's still
Speaker 3:it's a very expensive card still. But but can you imagine? Yeah. If it came out today with this level of scarcity for some of these cards?
Speaker 2:Oh my god. And the demand was crazy. If you got a box, you bought a box, you'd get a Griffey card always number one in the box. Mhmm. And that's how by the way, that's how they were selling them in sets.
Speaker 2:Yeah. That blue box.
Speaker 3:Yep. Nice long box. You had the whole set. Yeah. But you know, it was also the liability of a card being number one even in a factory set as if it's dropped.
Speaker 3:It's gonna that's where the damage is gonna be. And but, yeah, the Griffey craze was nuts. And back then, we would sell 100 card lots, and we would buy just cases and cases and rip them, and we would sell ten, fifty. It was almost like buying stocks back then, and a lot of dealers did that. And I remember with Fleer, I remember selling them for a dollar 60 a card.
Speaker 3:It was by far the most expensive card. And, you know, Tori Lovullo was 35¢, and Wally Joyner. We sold everybody in these huge blocks, and they made so many cards that year. And they just let the print and and the funny thing with eighty nine Upper Deck, a lot of people don't know this, Upper Deck gave out cases of their cards for Christmas to their employees. And they would literally come to our stores in Southern California and cash them out.
Speaker 3:And they were just everywhere. There were so many.
Speaker 2:And they got nickels on the dollar.
Speaker 3:Yeah. But at the time, a lot of that stuff was crazy. No.
Speaker 2:And then
Speaker 3:it just crashed down.
Speaker 2:Something unless you were around then the Griffey fever Yeah. Was by the way, I'd put it up there with Ohtani. Yeah. At at least initially where you go, what the hell? Or Aaron Judge.
Speaker 2:It's like he was Yeah. By way, the first guy in years that people went nuts for.
Speaker 3:Yeah. And the young kids all gravitated towards him because he was so young, and he was Right. He was so talented.
Speaker 2:And by the way, one word I'm gonna use, joy. Joy. He played the game with sheer joy. Yeah. He was like Pete Crowe Armstrong.
Speaker 2:Yeah. Better. Pete's great. Yeah. Not Ken Riffey junior great.
Speaker 2:Yeah. But still that joy, come on.
Speaker 3:I mean, how many kids today hit the big leagues at 19 years old
Speaker 2:and grew up in the dug 400 per season? Yeah. Yeah. It's like, I don't I don't understand it.
Speaker 3:Yeah. Just, I'm just an unbelievable talent and, you know, injuries robbed him of of his next decade but you think about the first ten years of a career
Speaker 2:in Ken Griffey Junior. You can compare him to Mickey Mantle. Yeah. Same same thing. Yeah.
Speaker 2:Same thing.
Speaker 3:Albert Pujols, I think you could put in that same category as well. You know, just those for and Mike Trout, those first ten years.
Speaker 2:Well, Mike Trout, of all the people we just mentioned. Yeah. Mike Trout, it was essentially Superman. Yeah. He was the next big card after Ken Griffey junior.
Speaker 2:Yeah. And I have a bunch of rookie Mike Trout. Mhmm. And to me, he is one of the all time greats. Yeah.
Speaker 2:And he's having a really good season.
Speaker 3:He really is.
Speaker 2:And he's staying healthy. I am so happy for him. And he seems like just the best guy. He does. And He's a
Speaker 3:great actor too. I mean, a loyalty to stay with the angels.
Speaker 2:No. No. I'm gonna use a word and no offense to my trip. The stupidity. Yeah.
Speaker 2:The stupidity to stay with the angels. Yeah. That is a with that owner, Are you kidding me? Oh, yeah. They're gonna turn things around.
Speaker 2:Yeah. Poor guy. They really ought to trade him. Yeah. They're not in any hopefully, this this someone hopefully, somebody I know he loves the Phillies.
Speaker 2:Yeah. As a kid, he rooting from hopefully, at the trading deadline this year, He goes to somebody who has a chance to win the world series.
Speaker 3:Yeah. I think I think I think any sports fan would just love to see that. He deserves it more than anybody else.
Speaker 2:By the way, who did I mention earlier? Ernie Banks. Yeah. Never won a world series. Yeah.
Speaker 2:You don't want that. You don't want the great career and not the World Series. Yeah. You don't. Yeah.
Speaker 2:I mean, and so Mike Trout, if you could see, I would actually cry for him. Yeah. If he won a World Series. That would be awesome. That would be so great.
Speaker 2:Yeah. You know? Yeah.
Speaker 1:And, question. I know we kind of do like hobby hot takes sometimes. But I want to ask you guys what you feel like has been positive in the past few years about the hobby and like where it's trending?
Speaker 3:I think I'll with that, Jeff.
Speaker 2:You know way better than me. But go ahead, Jeff.
Speaker 3:Think, you know, basically, you are always our target audience. You go back ten, twenty, thirty years. Basically, you're selling to, for the most part, thirty, forty, 50 something white males. And that was it. I mean, a woman coming in your store was like a unicorn.
Speaker 3:Because they really they didn't really have the interest way back then. You come in our store today, it's like going to a Macy's. It's like going to a mall. It is, you know,
Speaker 2:is predominantly male, but you see women all the time.
Speaker 3:You can be on a Saturday, Jeff. There could be 30% of the people. 35% of the people are women in the store. Maybe even more sometimes, you know, gender, ethnicity, age. They're all here.
Speaker 3:We didn't have that years ago. And that's incredibly exciting.
Speaker 1:And I don't even think it was for lack of interest for women, probably, but just like the environment can be a little intimidating. Exactly.
Speaker 3:I think so too. And I think the way stores were, they're a little darker. They're a little more dingy. They may be not as been as inviting. Yeah.
Speaker 3:And I think the one of the things with fanatics Oh, by
Speaker 2:the way, I think what helped is you have two Disney princesses at your entrance at all times. Yes. Their security dressed up as princesses.
Speaker 3:Yeah. I'm glad you caught that. Not everyone gets that.
Speaker 1:Very inviting.
Speaker 3:No. And I think that's exciting. And I think the other thing that's exciting. And again, we'll talk about fanatics again. And that is that they've really forced stores to become more inviting and I think that if you wanna do business with us and if you want our product, you need to represent our product in a certain way.
Speaker 3:When you go to a lot of these newer stores, you know, they are inviting. They are cleaner. They're well lit. They have invested in infrastructure, and they're more, you know, they're more inviting for women or just anybody else to come into. And I think that that does a lot.
Speaker 3:And I'm not saying that those shops are better than other shops, but I do think that they're certainly more inviting. And I think that's the big differences. Our target audience now is everybody. Mhmm. And I don't think you could have said that going back into the nineties.
Speaker 2:Yeah. But there's something for everybody now. Yes. Go ahead.
Speaker 3:Yeah. But, you know, there is something for everyone when you come in here. And, you know, of course, the gaming, the Pokemon, but the way that you can come in with with Marvel and DC and Disney and, you know, and just the other sports as well going back. There really wasn't much in the way of MMA or wrestling that was appealing.
Speaker 2:Alright. Here's a question for you. By the way, as far as I'm concerned
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 2:What I think is wonderful is that it's still viable. Yeah. You know, as a kid, I didn't think about where there weren't hobby shops when I was a kid or if they were, there were few and far between. But the idea that it's still done with the same spirit.
Speaker 3:Mhmm.
Speaker 2:Now mind you, money has made it a little bit, you know, but the good thing about look. I'll I'll give, Finesse a shout out. They do have sets that are for kids. Yes. That, they can pull their and I think that's a great way to get a kid started.
Speaker 2:Yeah. When you see little kids come in here and want a chrome box of their parents. Yeah. That's kinda crazy, man. Crazy.
Speaker 3:Yeah. It's rough. You need to have and that's why we do so much with singles. Like cosmic chrome is a great example. Some of the nicest cards ever made there.
Speaker 3:The stuff sells out like crazy across all the sports. And, yeah, a kid can't walk in and buy a box off the shelf unless their parents are really well well-to-do, and they they will buy $800 boxes for their kids. But they can go into collectors quarter. They can look at my player boxes and have that option where they can buy five or six cards from that product for $20 and walk out going, that was great. Right.
Speaker 3:A lot of people get hung up on the box price and how expensive it is, and that is something to be spoken about. But the quality of the cards within those boxes when they're opened up, and even for the base cards, some of these cards are stunning or some of these inserts that they're 3 or $4. And when a kid could get their hands on a card like that, that's
Speaker 2:My that's amazing. My niece, Emily.
Speaker 3:Mhmm.
Speaker 2:Not really my niece, my longtime partners. Mhmm. But I call her my niece. Hockey cards, hockey cards, hockey cards. Yeah.
Speaker 2:Has no interest in any season before, like, five years ago.
Speaker 3:Mhmm.
Speaker 2:None. But she when when I sit with her, I buy her I buy her boxes and packs. When she opens up, it's about her favorite players.
Speaker 3:Mhmm.
Speaker 2:You know, she's 20 years old. Yeah. She's 20. Her favorite players, cool looking cards. Yep.
Speaker 2:And that is it. That's the joy. That's the joy. She pulled speaking of talking about Matthew Shafer earlier, she pulled the Matthew Shafer young gun Uh-huh. Out of the first pack that she opened.
Speaker 2:Yeah. And so I said, okay. What you need to do, we I helped her protect it, and I go next time in town, I'll prepare it to be graded. That's a very special card. But trust me, if she grades it, it is a 10.
Speaker 2:She's not selling it.
Speaker 3:Right.
Speaker 2:That's not her interest. Her interest is to know, oh, this is a valuable cool card Right. Of a player I like. It's not to sell. And that's why I'm going through my collection now.
Speaker 2:If it's not a player or a card that brings me joy that I will look at, I'm getting rid of it. And I've got some great cards that are worth a lot of money for players I like.
Speaker 3:Right.
Speaker 2:But if I'm gonna have cards like that sitting around, it's gotta be I love.
Speaker 3:Yeah. And you know what? Use the term Jeff and Samuel speak to this. I use the term forever homes, and that's my job here. And that's the that is I want to get cards into the hands of people where it's not going to be flipped ever again, and that is the joy of collecting and I want to create the memory to have not only just putting that card into a forever home, but the memory of when you got that card, and maybe you were with your father.
Speaker 3:And maybe you remember the exact moment whether you open the pack or you're going through a box of singles. And and and to me, that's everything, and it gets lost in this glittery age of breaks and repacks and all that.
Speaker 2:And also, there are so many young people who are just doing it to buy and resell.
Speaker 3:Nothing wrong with that.
Speaker 2:Well, no. It's I I think that's all good and fine.
Speaker 3:Right.
Speaker 2:But to me, that only makes sense for an actual hobby shop. Yeah. It only makes sense for you to have a card that's worth this or that. You'll sell it and make back what it's worth with probably a little bit of a profit. Hopefully.
Speaker 2:Yeah. Hopefully. Right? Well, if I wanna sell a card, best case scenario, I'm losing 20%. Yeah.
Speaker 2:Yeah. Best case scenario.
Speaker 3:Yeah. In a lot of cases, you know, that and that is the case. Obviously, something you purchased like an Ohtani one of one that you would have kept obviously would be a different sport.
Speaker 2:I wasn't mentally ill. I would have kept it. And you think I'm kidding you? That is 100% the truth. But I also was looking with stars in my eyes at a high graded Jordan, which I saw here, which means, you know, means more to me than Otani.
Speaker 2:Yeah. Frank, you know? Yeah.
Speaker 1:Kinda kinda just to guide us out on this episode. I wanted to highlight some cards that were pulled here at the store. Okay. We had someone pull a rookie Wimpyama, and then they went to grade it at our PSA booth and it came back at ten.
Speaker 2:Which which first with rookie?
Speaker 1:Let's see. It is select.
Speaker 3:Yeah. Okay Go to the graded so you'll be able to read it at
Speaker 1:the top.
Speaker 3:What's what's that say?
Speaker 1:I can't read dragon scale prism.
Speaker 3:Yeah, that's an exceptionally rare parallel of it. And the beauty of the store, Jeff, is someone can open a product in here, walk right over to the PSA booth and have and have it right into the system right away.
Speaker 2:That's that's really cool. And then the thing also is if you're a Spurs fan Mhmm. If you're a hardcore basketball fan
Speaker 3:Mhmm.
Speaker 2:That's gonna be what you call the homes forever. Forever home. Yeah. Right. Yeah.
Speaker 2:But if you're like a flipper Yeah. Look what you just did. Yeah. Look what you just did for yourself.
Speaker 3:And you know what? I grew up in this business as a collector, but I was exposed right away to the buying and selling because I started working here at 12 years old. And I don't begrudge anybody that wants to partake in this business and do anything that they want. Whether it's flipping, you know whether it's the education of that 11 year old that is dealing with an adult and getting this financial business, education and hopefully they continue with it and hopefully this is something that becomes a career for them and they enjoy and that's a different part of the of the business. There's also the hobby part that we get passionate.
Speaker 2:Right.
Speaker 3:About and there's just there's something for everyone. And there's money involved in this business. And and that's wonderful. Do we do it for the money? There's a lot of bills to pay.
Speaker 2:Well, yeah.
Speaker 3:I have a businessman.
Speaker 2:But you're a businessman.
Speaker 3:But but
Speaker 2:you also recognize the joy.
Speaker 3:Yes.
Speaker 2:There was a movie I saw a number of years ago with Dennis Dennis Quaid. And towards the end, his son-in-law is asking him about how he does business. Looking at it from a financial standpoint, And his attitude was that his character had stayed with me. And I wish I can really quote it. But he was like, not only do I want to make money, but I want to make sure that the person who gets what I sell Uh-huh.
Speaker 2:Is really, really happy.
Speaker 3:Exactly it.
Speaker 2:You know? And that's what you have, and that's not you know? When we do
Speaker 3:this always go together either.
Speaker 2:So They don't. And by the way, I respect both.
Speaker 3:Mhmm.
Speaker 2:You know? Don't get me wrong. But when you have the combo, that's really you know? And to go out, I have a very important question. When did you first learn how to curtsy?
Speaker 1:It's a crazy question.
Speaker 3:I think that's more of a
Speaker 2:you question than me. No.
Speaker 1:It's more
Speaker 2:of a you.
Speaker 1:Answer this. While we answer this you,
Speaker 2:it is.
Speaker 3:It is. Let's each open Let's each open the pack.
Speaker 1:To get guide us out of this episode. Let's see.
Speaker 3:I'm feeling better about this one.
Speaker 1:Okay. I'm curious. We're gonna leave
Speaker 3:my glasses in the office.
Speaker 1:You can't read anything.
Speaker 3:Jackson Pro Farm also Kyle Stowers. Brian Hayes so far, not Oh, there's a card for you, brother. Chicago Cubs team card right there.
Speaker 2:Great granddaughter. Great. Thank you.
Speaker 3:Yes, sir. Oh, I got a thick card. Oh, I got a James Wood Jersey card.
Speaker 1:Oh, let's go.
Speaker 3:One of the young sluggers in the game.
Speaker 1:Wow. That's the only patch thing that we've we've had.
Speaker 3:Yeah. We haven't had that kind of luck yet.
Speaker 1:Wow.
Speaker 3:Gotta get that protected right away.
Speaker 1:True that. Anything good, Jeff?
Speaker 2:No. No. Sad. No.
Speaker 3:Well
Speaker 1:No. Sad note to close out the episode. But thank you guys for all joining us and for listening, and we'll see you next time.
Speaker 3:So much fun. And what was your name again, honey?
Speaker 1:Sammy.
Speaker 3:No. What's your name? Jim. Jim. Mint.
Speaker 2:I'm authentic, so I'm not paying attention. Alright. Let's just finish opening these.
Speaker 3:Okay. Let's do it.