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What if the life you want is possible, but your current beliefs are keeping you from becoming the person who can create it? In this episode, Dr. Taz sits down with Jim Curtis, author of The Book of Possibility, to explore how the subconscious mind, emotional regulation, and the stories we tell ourselves can shape our identity, health, relationships, and future.
After developing a lesion on his spinal cord and struggling with chronic pain and mobility, Jim began searching for answers beyond the conventional medical system. His experience led him to study belief patterns, visualization, self-hypnosis, and the connection between our emotional and physical well-being.
Jim also guides Dr. Taz through a powerful live exercise to uncover one of her own limiting beliefs. Together, they reveal how greater awareness can help you release an old story, align with a new possibility, and begin acting as the person you want to become.
In this episode, you’ll discover:
• How subconscious beliefs influence your identity and behavior
• Why repetition and action help you become a new version of yourself
• How to recognize and rewrite the stories holding you back
• The difference between meditation and self-hypnosis
• How emotional regulation can support greater calm and resilience
• Why information overload and doomscrolling can keep you dysregulated
• A simple 10-minute morning and evening practice
• How to move from releasing old beliefs to creating a new reality
• Why the life you want may be more possible than you think
Learn more about Jim Curtis:
Website: https://jimcurtiscoaching.com
Instagram: @jimcurtis1
Book: *The Book of Possibility* https://link.amazon/B054c3uJJ
About Dr. Taz:
Dr. Tasneem Bhatia (Dr. Taz) is a triple board-certified integrative medicine physician,
bestselling author, and founder of hol+ a multi-location integrative medicine practice.
Learn more: https://doctortaz.com/about
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After developing a lesion on his spinal cord and struggling with chronic pain and mobility, Jim began searching for answers beyond the conventional medical system. His experience led him to study belief patterns, visualization, self-hypnosis, and the connection between our emotional and physical well-being.
Jim also guides Dr. Taz through a powerful live exercise to uncover one of her own limiting beliefs. Together, they reveal how greater awareness can help you release an old story, align with a new possibility, and begin acting as the person you want to become.
In this episode, you’ll discover:
• How subconscious beliefs influence your identity and behavior
• Why repetition and action help you become a new version of yourself
• How to recognize and rewrite the stories holding you back
• The difference between meditation and self-hypnosis
• How emotional regulation can support greater calm and resilience
• Why information overload and doomscrolling can keep you dysregulated
• A simple 10-minute morning and evening practice
• How to move from releasing old beliefs to creating a new reality
• Why the life you want may be more possible than you think
Learn more about Jim Curtis:
Website: https://jimcurtiscoaching.com
Instagram: @jimcurtis1
Book: *The Book of Possibility* https://link.amazon/B054c3uJJ
About Dr. Taz:
Dr. Tasneem Bhatia (Dr. Taz) is a triple board-certified integrative medicine physician,
bestselling author, and founder of hol+ a multi-location integrative medicine practice.
Learn more: https://doctortaz.com/about
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Hol+ S08E01 - Jim Curtis
[00:00:00] Jim Curtis: I believe that with emotional regulation you can reduce your pain. For many years I couldn't walk more than [00:00:05] three blocks. There was, it was always painful- Mm-hmm ... pain in my ankles, and that pain is gone, [00:00:10] and most of it's because of emotional regulation. If we are practicing emotional [00:00:15] regulation and we release some of the worry and the fear, then that [00:00:20] often creates a different chemical makeup in our body.
[00:00:22] Dr. Taz: Mm-hmm.
[00:00:22] Jim Curtis: And people experience less pain, [00:00:25] people experience more ease in their joints, and for me, it helped me walk [00:00:30] better.
[00:00:30] Dr. Taz: Oh, wow. Jim Curtis is an author, a speaker, and coach whose [00:00:35] work centers on helping people break free from limiting patterns and [00:00:40] reconnect with what's possible in their lives. Why are we having such a problem with this right [00:00:45] now?
[00:00:45] Jim Curtis: I think because we have so much information. We weren't meant to [00:00:50] have all the world's information at our fingertips every minute. We lived in small [00:00:55] villages of 100 people- Yeah ... and in our tribe we kind of just kept things going [00:01:00] copacetic. And now that we have all this information of every human all over the [00:01:05] world all at once, that it just causes dysregulation.
[00:01:08] Dr. Taz: He is known for helping [00:01:10] audiences and clients explore the intersection of mindset, emotional [00:01:15] patterns, stress, and personal growth while making transformational ideas feel [00:01:20] accessible and applicable in everyday life. Please join me in welcoming Jim to the show. This [00:01:25] episode is sponsored by Hol Plus, a holistic health platform built around [00:01:30] education, personalization, and integrative care.
[00:01:33] Dr. Taz: Hol Plus blends holistic, [00:01:35] integrative, and functional medicine clinics with learning resources like blogs, YouTube [00:01:40] videos, and of course this podcast, so you're not just treated, you're informed. [00:01:45] The platform also includes holistic health quizzes and a curated wellness shop, helping you make [00:01:50] choices that support your body at the root level.
[00:01:53] Dr. Taz: Hol Plus is holistic [00:01:55] healthcare designed for real life. Visit us at Hol Plus.co to
[00:01:59] Jim Curtis: [00:02:00] learn more about the platform. Again, that's H-O-L-P-L-U-S dot [00:02:05] C-O.
[00:02:05] Dr. Taz: I'm super honored to have you here today. Uh, we have followed your work and a lot [00:02:10] of your teachings and your writings, and I think you touch on something that I'm [00:02:15] still trying really hard to put my finger on and to understand more deeply, and that is [00:02:20] this sort of field or this realm of where healing stops [00:02:25] happening and where I know healing is actually possible.
[00:02:27] Jim Curtis: Mm-hmm.
[00:02:28] Dr. Taz: Because people are doing [00:02:30] all the things, right? They're doing everything on a treatment plan. They're biohacking. They're [00:02:35] gaming the data. They're doing the lab work. They're doing all the stuff, but they're not able to push through for [00:02:40] some reason to kind of what- whatever outcome they're seeking, whether it's getting better [00:02:45] physically, whether it's performing better.
[00:02:47] Dr. Taz: You know, no matter what it is, there's still something [00:02:50] blocking them. And the longer I've done this, I'm like, "There's another layer." [00:02:55] And we're not taught that other layer- Mm ... in medical school, right? Right. Or residency. [00:03:00] And I feel like the future of medicine relies on us understanding [00:03:05] this other layer, whatever we wanna call it- Mm-hmm
[00:03:07] Dr. Taz: and how it then in turn impacts the rest of our [00:03:10] health.
[00:03:10] Jim Curtis: Right.
[00:03:10] Dr. Taz: And I know you have lived in this field, in this space. Yeah. I also [00:03:15] know that you have a very diverse medical background.
[00:03:17] Jim Curtis: Mm-hmm.
[00:03:18] Dr. Taz: So I wanna jump [00:03:20] into it, into- Okay, let's jump in ... possibility-
[00:03:22] Jim Curtis: Right ...
[00:03:23] Dr. Taz: and the subconscious- [00:03:25] Yeah ... and how that connects back to who we are as people.
[00:03:28] Jim Curtis: Hmm, great. That's my favorite [00:03:30] topic, so
[00:03:30] Dr. Taz: let's jump. Let's go for it. So how did you even find out about this stuff? Why are you even interested [00:03:35] in this stuff? You've been at WebMD. You were... We were just talking. Yeah. You've been at the IIN- [00:03:40] Yeah ... y- which is the Institute of Integrative Nutrition. Mm-hmm. You've been at Everyday Health.
[00:03:44] Dr. Taz: I remember- Yeah ... [00:03:45] contributing to some of their content. So you've been in these very medical heavy spaces. From the beginning. [00:03:50] Right? Evidence-based- Yeah ... medical heavy spaces.
[00:03:52] Jim Curtis: Right.
[00:03:53] Dr. Taz: Why are we talking about the [00:03:55] subconscious now?
[00:03:56] Jim Curtis: Because I, what I've found with my thousands of patients and with my own [00:04:00] physical health is that the subconscious is more powerful than any pill, any, [00:04:05] any, any nutrition plan.
[00:04:07] Jim Curtis: Um, and we even find that when someone [00:04:10] with authority, and we were just talking about your hypno- hypnosis story- Right ... right?
[00:04:14] Dr. Taz: Right.
[00:04:14] Jim Curtis: [00:04:15] Um, it doesn't take much, that when someone with authority tells you something, [00:04:20] if you believe it, it becomes true.
[00:04:22] Dr. Taz: Mm.
[00:04:22] Jim Curtis: That's why it's so important for [00:04:25] doctors when they're giving out prognosises or diagnosises that they, um, [00:04:30] position things differently.
[00:04:31] Jim Curtis: Because what they tell to the patient, they believe and [00:04:35] manifest. And same with a placebo. Um, we make things true [00:04:40] within our body, and that's our subconscious mind.
[00:04:42] Dr. Taz: So if, if someone is telling you something, and [00:04:45] you respect them-
[00:04:46] Jim Curtis: Mm-hmm ...
[00:04:46] Dr. Taz: and you're holding them up on a pedestal-
[00:04:48] Jim Curtis: Yeah ...
[00:04:48] Dr. Taz: you are more [00:04:50] likely to believe what they're gonna say- Right
[00:04:52] Dr. Taz: and in turn have an outcome. Is that [00:04:55] sort of why people who are in positions of power have to be aware of that, right? They- [00:05:00] Absolutely ... we have to be aware of the fact that we can lead people down different roads.
[00:05:03] Jim Curtis: Yes, absolutely. And, and [00:05:05] that's the main tenet of hypnosis as well. You have to position authority [00:05:10] so that the subconscious mind of the other person, the client, the patient, whomever, will take [00:05:15] a suggestion And basically our whole lives are suggestions.
[00:05:18] Dr. Taz: Mm.
[00:05:19] Jim Curtis: We [00:05:20] are living within a suggestible state, especially if we're scrolling on social media and we put ourselves [00:05:25] into a, a, a trance with lights and bings and bongs already, that we- Wait, is
[00:05:29] Dr. Taz: that hypnosis, [00:05:30] by the way? Yeah. If we're just doing that- Yes ... if we're doom scrolling, is hypnosis ...
[00:05:32] Jim Curtis: yes, yes, that's what people say.
[00:05:34] Jim Curtis: Right. Can, can I be [00:05:35] hypnotized? It's like if you're on social media, you're hypnotizing yourself all day long. You're putting y- yourself into a [00:05:40] suggestible state, and then you're just taking suggestions from either the news or the [00:05:45] ads or whatever you see. But driving long distances also puts you in a state, right?
[00:05:49] Jim Curtis: Mm. Mm-hmm. And [00:05:50] many things that we do put us in a theta state that is basically hypnosis. [00:05:55] But, um, so what I've found with my own physical health and [00:06:00] with thousands of patients that I work with is that if they can believe an [00:06:05] outcome, see it, feel it, believe it, internalize it, then that [00:06:10] outcome often happens.
[00:06:11] Dr. Taz: How is that different from, again, not to use social media, but how is that [00:06:15] different from manifestation? People are like, "I'm gonna manifest this. I'm gonna write my [00:06:20] affirmations." Right. "I'm gonna do a vision board." How is this different, or is [00:06:25] it not? Mm. Is, are we talking about the same thing? Is there any difference between what you're talking about [00:06:30] and some of what we've seen floating around in terms of culture and social media [00:06:35] and some of those- Yeah
[00:06:35] Dr. Taz: type of things?
[00:06:36] Jim Curtis: I think it's all manifestation. I think manifestation was a real actual word that's in [00:06:40] the dictionary, and you look, and it's to create something, right? To make something, um, [00:06:45] manifest. And I think then it became in the spiritual world where it became a little woo-woo. Mm-hmm. And it's like [00:06:50] something out here, I'm gonna use the magic of this thing called the universe, and I'm gonna manifest something.
[00:06:54] Jim Curtis: But [00:06:55] I believe that it's all making something happen, making an outcome happen that you want. So [00:07:00] we're manifesting on a daily basis. It doesn't have to be this [00:07:05] obscure- Procedure ... yeah, right. It doesn't have to be this
[00:07:07] Dr. Taz: obscure
[00:07:08] Jim Curtis: thing.
[00:07:08] Dr. Taz: Procedure, right? It- Let me clear the [00:07:10] energy.
[00:07:10] Jim Curtis: Yeah.
[00:07:10] Dr. Taz: Let me clear my counter.
[00:07:11] Jim Curtis: Right.
[00:07:11] Dr. Taz: No, that's not it,
[00:07:12] Jim Curtis: right? Right. Let's get some candles and, and-
[00:07:13] Dr. Taz: Right. Exactly ...
[00:07:14] Jim Curtis: and [00:07:15] some crystals.
[00:07:15] Dr. Taz: My daughter does this, by the way. She's 17, 18 years old, and I'm, like, knocking on the door trying to get her to do something. She says, [00:07:20] "I'm manifesting right now, Mom. Go away."
[00:07:23] Jim Curtis: You know? So- Yeah. The, the funny thing is, is I'm not [00:07:25] making fun of the candles- Yeah
[00:07:25] Jim Curtis: and the crystals- Right ... and the writing and all that stuff. Right. Because if that's what you need to train your brain [00:07:30] and your- Right ... energy and your, your subconscious to go get, then- Do it. Yeah. [00:07:35] It works.
[00:07:35] Dr. Taz: Yeah.
[00:07:35] Jim Curtis: Right? Anything, you know, I always say that we can eat food with [00:07:40] chopsticks or with our hands or with a fork and knife or wh- just as long as you get it into your belly, [00:07:45] and that's the same with manifestation.
[00:07:46] Dr. Taz: Same with manifestation. Now, how did you fall into this [00:07:50] field to begin with? Mm-hmm. Because again, you were in these very more, I would call them more academic [00:07:55] or more science-based or evidence-based driven- Yeah ... fields of medicine, right? How did you fall [00:08:00] into the sub- the realm of the subconscious, understanding the power?
[00:08:03] Dr. Taz: Your newest book is The Book [00:08:05] of Possibility- That's right ... which talks a lot about this.
[00:08:07] Jim Curtis: Yep.
[00:08:07] Dr. Taz: You know, tell us a little bit about your background and your story.
[00:08:09] Jim Curtis: [00:08:10] Well, I was a trader on Wall Street.
[00:08:11] Dr. Taz: Oh, okay.
[00:08:12] Jim Curtis: And-
[00:08:12] Dr. Taz: Enough said. So. That
[00:08:14] Jim Curtis: was a difficult [00:08:15] role. Yes. And- But I traded these big, uh, health technology companies-
[00:08:17] Dr. Taz: Right.
[00:08:17] Dr. Taz: Mm-hmm ...
[00:08:18] Jim Curtis: and before they were what [00:08:20] they were. Mm-hmm. So, um, and then I would go to early stage companies and help [00:08:25] bring them, uh, as ex- as an executive there into what they became, and they [00:08:30] became Everyday Health and, well, WebMD, and then Everyday Health, and then Health Central- Right ... and all [00:08:35] those. But I was really driven by my own illness, so I was at 20 years [00:08:40] old, um, diagnosed with a lesion on my spine.
[00:08:43] Jim Curtis: It didn't have, [00:08:45] uh, a diagnosis aside from it's a transverse myelitis something. Mm-hmm. [00:08:50] Didn't know how it created- Mm-hmm ... how it was created. So I went all over the country, all over the [00:08:55] world, trying to figure out how did this happen? And what I realized is I was just [00:09:00] getting worse and worse and worse. You know, my physical condition, everything was [00:09:05] deteriorating, same with my mental health, and so I started to look elsewhere.
[00:09:08] Jim Curtis: I started to look, [00:09:10] um- I guess in the wellness world and in the spiritual world.
[00:09:14] Dr. Taz: Yeah.
[00:09:14] Jim Curtis: [00:09:15] Right? And so I started to go- Were
[00:09:15] Dr. Taz: you not getting answers from, like, you know, traditional medicine or [00:09:20] from doctors or-
[00:09:20] Jim Curtis: No. No. No, and I, I went all over... I went to, you know, name, name the big name [00:09:25] hospital-
[00:09:25] Dr. Taz: You went
[00:09:25] Jim Curtis: to all of them
[00:09:25] Jim Curtis: big name
[00:09:25] Dr. Taz: doctor. Yep.
[00:09:26] Jim Curtis: Yes. And so it... We couldn't figure out what was, what [00:09:30] was wrong other than there was a lesion on my spinal cord, and it seemed to be growing.
[00:09:34] Dr. Taz: Mm.
[00:09:34] Jim Curtis: [00:09:35] And, and so very slowly over time, I went from a very strong [00:09:40] athlete, um, to not being able to walk.
[00:09:42] Dr. Taz: Wow.
[00:09:43] Jim Curtis: And it took a really long [00:09:45] time to, one, first start to change that identity of, of this person- Right
[00:09:49] Jim Curtis: [00:09:50] to, to something different, accept that new identity, and to use it in my benefit- Mm-hmm ... [00:09:55] which is, um... And then how could I use my subconscious [00:10:00] mind to get my body back to a place that was significantly better? [00:10:05]
[00:10:05] Dr. Taz: So how do you... So people talk about this all the time, about you have to believe things, you have to [00:10:10] feel them, you have to see them visually to make them happen.
[00:10:13] Jim Curtis: Yeah, yeah.
[00:10:13] Dr. Taz: You know, for a [00:10:15] lot of us, that's very difficult to do. It's very difficult to [00:10:20] access that, right? Mm-hmm. How do you go about, you know, tapping into your subconscious, [00:10:25] shifting and changing patterns, you know? I think there's... You know, what's exciting right now about [00:10:30] medicine, and, and you know, I- what I love, is the fact that we're having these conversations, and they're not [00:10:35] weird, and they're not necessarily woo-woo anymore, things like that.
[00:10:38] Dr. Taz: But at the same time, I [00:10:40] think where people still struggle while they're accepting that, they really struggle with the [00:10:45] practical part of it, right? Or the how-to part of it. Like, how do you actually do this? Yes. Like, I can take a [00:10:50] supplement. I can take a pharmaceutical. Right. I can go get a procedure, right? I can, I can do all these other things, [00:10:55] but how do you do this, you know?
[00:10:57] Dr. Taz: Mm. And I think it's really important to give people some [00:11:00] guidance on how this can actually become a reality, otherwise, you know, it feels like I know this thing [00:11:05] is there, right, sitting on our shoulder, but what do I do about it?
[00:11:08] Jim Curtis: Mm-hmm.
[00:11:09] Dr. Taz: You know? [00:11:10]
[00:11:10] Jim Curtis: I love the way you pos- position that because it's easy. Like, I know if I take a pill, something can [00:11:15] change.
[00:11:15] Jim Curtis: Right. Even if that's sugar pill, if I know that it's supposed to do something, and I'm told that, I [00:11:20] can take it and something will change.
[00:11:21] Dr. Taz: Right.
[00:11:21] Jim Curtis: And so the first is awareness, and I talk a lot about this in [00:11:25] The Book of Possibility.
[00:11:25] Dr. Taz: Mm-hmm.
[00:11:26] Jim Curtis: Is this release, align, and become.
[00:11:28] Dr. Taz: Yes.
[00:11:28] Jim Curtis: Is first you have to [00:11:30] release the old beliefs, align with what you want so that you can become everything that you want.
[00:11:34] Jim Curtis: [00:11:35] And so there are tools. Okay. Right? And sometimes if you're [00:11:40] just using your conscious mind, and you're asking or telling yourself the affirmations over and over [00:11:45] again, and you're writing them out or those things, that primes your reticular activating system [00:11:50] so that you'll go out into the world and find that thing that you want.
[00:11:54] Dr. Taz: Mm-hmm.
[00:11:54] Jim Curtis: Right? [00:11:55] Because our reticular activating system is, you know, looking for those things that we want, [00:12:00] what we believe in. It's, it's identifying in a world of unlimited possibility that [00:12:05] one possibility that we want. The second part is, okay, so we all heard about the [00:12:10] subconscious mind, and we know that we have beliefs.
[00:12:12] Jim Curtis: How do we change a belief? And I believe we [00:12:15] change a belief by a realization.
[00:12:16] Dr. Taz: Okay.
[00:12:17] Jim Curtis: Right? Instead of a manifestation, which is out here, [00:12:20] it's an internal realization, oh, that, that belief doesn't exist anywhere but in [00:12:25] my mind. You can't open up my heart or my spleen and find that belief.
[00:12:28] Dr. Taz: Hmm.
[00:12:29] Jim Curtis: So [00:12:30] if that belief only exists within my mind, is there a possibility that [00:12:35] other beliefs are there too, contrary beliefs?
[00:12:38] Jim Curtis: And so if there's a possibility that there are [00:12:40] contrary beliefs, is there a possibility that the belief that I have is not [00:12:45] 100% true? And if it's not 100% true, could there be another belief that's equally [00:12:50] as true but more beneficial?
[00:12:51] Dr. Taz: Huh. So as an example, give me an example. [00:12:55]
[00:12:55] Jim Curtis: As an ex- Well, you give me a belief.
[00:12:57] Jim Curtis: Um, there is an example that, [00:13:00] um ... Let's see. One, one of my clients has had, um, more recently, [00:13:05] there was, uh, an example. He had OCD.
[00:13:08] Dr. Taz: Yes.
[00:13:08] Jim Curtis: And there was a [00:13:10] belief that he needed to change all of the controls that his OCD had put in [00:13:15] place, right? So he believed that he had to go outside [00:13:20] and go to an intersection, uh, make sure that nothing bad happened.
[00:13:23] Jim Curtis: So he'd walk back and forth to that [00:13:25] intersection five times before he could go to the next block.
[00:13:27] Dr. Taz: Hmm.
[00:13:27] Jim Curtis: And so there was a belief that he [00:13:30] had to do that, that that control would keep him safe. So [00:13:35] There was also a belief that it, that he needed to monitor it and he couldn't change it. [00:13:40] So that was just a belief, right?
[00:13:42] Jim Curtis: So there's also an opportunity to [00:13:45] say, "If that belief is currently running and you feel the desire to go back and check, then we can [00:13:50] understand that that belief is running, and then maybe it's true that you are safe already [00:13:55] because your belief is already installed."
[00:13:57] Dr. Taz: So you're almost flipping the script on yourself.
[00:13:59] Jim Curtis: Yeah. And he said, [00:14:00] "Is it..." Okay. And so I said, "Instead of removing [00:14:05] the belief, is it possible that once you feel that belief and that trigger, you can realize that it [00:14:10] is in place, installed, and keeping you safe, and you don't necessarily have to follow it? You can believe [00:14:15] that it's already happening."
[00:14:16] Dr. Taz: And he said- And did he get better?
[00:14:17] Jim Curtis: He said yes. And I said, "So the truth [00:14:20] is that you're actually more in control, and the, the programs that you have are keeping you safe, and you don't have [00:14:25] to check them."
[00:14:26] Dr. Taz: And
[00:14:26] Jim Curtis: he said yes. And so I said, "What is your [00:14:30] desire to kinda like go and check something if you know that your belief is already installed and it's running and you [00:14:35] don't have to actually do it?"
[00:14:37] Jim Curtis: He said, "Zero." Mm. And so we [00:14:40] removed that just by showing that beliefs are malleable and that they're [00:14:45] running programs, and sometimes you can keep a program running and just raise the light switch, [00:14:50] the dimmer switch on another one that shines brighter.
[00:14:53] Dr. Taz: Mm.
[00:14:54] Jim Curtis: So I think that [00:14:55] when we start to think like, oh, I, I, I relate this to varicose veins.
[00:14:59] Jim Curtis: You know, we get- Oh, yes ... [00:15:00] varicose veins in our legs. Oh, yes. Yes. And they have this little machine that goes in- Yeah ... and it twists out- Cleans them out ... the vein [00:15:05] Yeah. And it, what's it called? It's
[00:15:06] Dr. Taz: sclerotherapy.
[00:15:06] Jim Curtis: Yes.
[00:15:07] Dr. Taz: Yes. Yeah.
[00:15:08] Jim Curtis: So and it's like, oh, I wanna do that with my [00:15:10] beliefs. Yeah. I have these neural pathways- Yeah
[00:15:11] Jim Curtis: and everybody's talking about them, and I wanna get rid of the old neural [00:15:15] pathways- Right ... and I want new neural pathways, right? And so when I visualize things, [00:15:20] 'cause the subconscious mind speaks in story and emotion instead of, like, factual, so I tell stories. [00:15:25] It's like, okay, well, you can do those with your varicose veins, but you can't do it with your neural pathways.
[00:15:29] Jim Curtis: Mm. There's [00:15:30] no thing that goes in and wraps up those neural pathways, pulls them out. They're always there. But instead what [00:15:35] we can do is we can just raise the dimmer switch, the light switch, you know, up [00:15:40] higher and lower on some so that you don't have to worry about removing beliefs anymore.
[00:15:44] Dr. Taz: [00:15:45] Mm.
[00:15:45] Jim Curtis: Instead, let's start to change and move them up on new beliefs that we can [00:15:50] make brighter.
[00:15:51] Dr. Taz: And so if you continue to fixate on the newer beliefs, [00:15:55] and I hope I'm getting this right, if you continue to fixate on the newer beliefs, that's still with your [00:16:00] conscious mind though, right? Like, you're still consciously trying to do that. Does that over time [00:16:05] build to a point where now it's embedded in your subconscious?
[00:16:09] Dr. Taz: You've es- [00:16:10] essentially, like, altered your subconscious? Can that happen?
[00:16:13] Jim Curtis: Yeah, but when you do this type of talk-
[00:16:14] Dr. Taz: [00:16:15] Right ...
[00:16:15] Jim Curtis: right, your subconscious mind's always listening.
[00:16:17] Dr. Taz: Ah, okay.
[00:16:18] Jim Curtis: There's never a time when we're subconscious.
[00:16:19] Dr. Taz: It's not [00:16:20] separated.
[00:16:20] Jim Curtis: Never.
[00:16:20] Dr. Taz: Okay.
[00:16:20] Jim Curtis: Right? So your subcon- See,
[00:16:21] Dr. Taz: that's the, like, doctor in me, like- Yeah
[00:16:23] Dr. Taz: separate things out. Yeah. Right?
[00:16:24] Jim Curtis: So the [00:16:25] subconscious- It's not separated ... mind is always thinking. Yeah. So even now as we're talking-
[00:16:28] Dr. Taz: Right ...
[00:16:28] Jim Curtis: as you start to position things [00:16:30] in ways that are questions for your subconscious mind, could that be true? Oh, yeah. Okay, maybe it is. Right. And, [00:16:35] and, you know, another way to say it is, okay, so there are, you know, seeds, and we [00:16:40] plant seeds in the ground just as we plant thoughts in our mind, and those seeds naturally, [00:16:45] easily, quietly, without us even know, grow- Mm
[00:16:48] Jim Curtis: every day more and more-
[00:16:49] Dr. Taz: [00:16:50] Fascinating.
[00:16:50] Jim Curtis: Yeah ... until they blossom. And when they blossom, there's a bud, and things are just different, just as they'll be [00:16:55] different for you 'cause there are seeds that have been planted even in this conversation in your own mind.
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[00:17:57] Dr. Taz: You know, I'm curious, like, when we're [00:18:00] talking about our children, you know, when you look at kids, you know, they tell stories all the time, [00:18:05] right? Mm-hmm. They're in the world of imagination and play. You know, how do parents [00:18:10] contribute to, you know, their belief system? How can we mold their belief system to a [00:18:15] certain extent in a way that's beneficial to them?
[00:18:17] Jim Curtis: Yeah, our identity and our beliefs- That's correct ... are all created between [00:18:20] zero and eight years old. So your children-
[00:18:21] Dr. Taz: Zero and eight-
[00:18:22] Jim Curtis: Yeah ...
[00:18:22] Dr. Taz: is the critical timeframe.
[00:18:24] Jim Curtis: Yep.
[00:18:24] Dr. Taz: Okay.
[00:18:24] Jim Curtis: [00:18:25] So the, the children are in a constant sponge-like theta state. Their mind is a sponge. So [00:18:30] everything that you say and teach them, you know, at that age, affirmations, [00:18:35] you know, if you get your par- your child to say, "I'm smart, I'm kind, I'm good," you know, [00:18:40] over and over again, that's a sponge.
[00:18:41] Jim Curtis: They'll, they'll believe that. Mm-hmm. So between zero and eight is a theta state. [00:18:45] Their minds are sponges, and you can get them to say, you know, affirmations or [00:18:50] whatever you'd like for them to start to absorb and become 'cause they're, that's what they're doing. That's [00:18:55] why they can learn languages so fast and all these other things.
[00:18:57] Jim Curtis: Fascinating. So, and, and to do it in [00:19:00] story. I mean, our minds, our subconscious minds talk in story and emotions. That's how [00:19:05] the, that's how the mi- the subconscious is developed, and so if you do it in [00:19:10] story and if you do it in repetition. But to go back to another thing that you said. Yeah, yeah. Mm-hmm. So you said, [00:19:15] "How do we do this?"
[00:19:15] Jim Curtis: Yes. Yeah. And I, uh, I offered a very obscure thing. Right, right. Right? Because it's not always cut and [00:19:20] dry when you're working with beliefs. But the first part is this. You build awareness, right? [00:19:25] By recognizing kind of what are some stories that I'm telling in my [00:19:30] life. And so ev- often I work with a lot of people that have been divorced- Mm-hmm
[00:19:34] Jim Curtis: or a lot of [00:19:35] people that have a health issue-
[00:19:36] Dr. Taz: Mm-hmm ...
[00:19:36] Jim Curtis: or a lot of people that are getting older and haven't found [00:19:40] love, and they have a story that they tell over and over again. Right. That terrible spouse that I had a divorce, that [00:19:45] father of mine, that mother of mine did this. And you just look at the stories, and it's not to say those stories are [00:19:50] bad.
[00:19:50] Jim Curtis: You can't do it wrong. Right. Those things happened. But are you telling the stories often? [00:19:55] And if you're telling that same story often, like every time you go out with your girlfriends or every time you go out with your guy [00:20:00] friends, you're telling the same story of what the ex did or, um, and it's been [00:20:05] 10 years, then it's not to say r- you can't have your pain and your trauma.
[00:20:09] Jim Curtis: Mm-hmm. [00:20:10] It's to say, "Okay, that's a story that I'm telling. I can recognize it. [00:20:15] And now if I was to look at what the belief is, what's that story creating in my life?" And [00:20:20] it's like, okay, that's the first thing, and now I need to release that story. So let's just tell [00:20:25] that story in a different way.
[00:20:26] Dr. Taz: Okay.
[00:20:26] Jim Curtis: That's
[00:20:26] Dr. Taz: the- So you can rewrite your story.
[00:20:27] Jim Curtis: You rewrite your story. That's the easiest part, [00:20:30] right? Okay. So recognizing what I need to release, and then we start to go in, [00:20:35] even in meditation, even if you just relax yourself, you count down and, or you do [00:20:40] this in the morning, at night, when your mind is in a natural theta state, when you wake up or right before you go into bed.[00:20:45]
[00:20:45] Jim Curtis: You can start to ask your subconscious mind, like, "What do I need to do to move to the next level?"
[00:20:49] Dr. Taz: Mm. [00:20:50]
[00:20:50] Jim Curtis: Now, the last part is there is a simple technique that you can do.
[00:20:54] Dr. Taz: Okay.
[00:20:54] Jim Curtis: [00:20:55] Okay?
[00:20:55] Dr. Taz: I'm ready for this.
[00:20:55] Jim Curtis: And so this is a technique, and I start to say things [00:21:00] like, uh, and we can even try this with you right now.
[00:21:02] Dr. Taz: Okay.
[00:21:04] Jim Curtis: Is there something in your [00:21:05] life that you want to d- to create or, or ho- okay, do you, [00:21:10] do you wanna talk about that in just a small way?
[00:21:12] Dr. Taz: In a small way? Yeah. So, yes. I [00:21:15] want holistic health to be the model of healthcare in the future.
[00:21:17] Jim Curtis: Okay. So you wanna be the person that brings [00:21:20] that?
[00:21:20] Dr. Taz: Yes.
[00:21:21] Jim Curtis: Okay. So, um, when I say these questions to you, [00:21:25] and you can even just notice your shoulders now, right?
[00:21:28] Jim Curtis: Mm-hmm. Okay. And just let them [00:21:30] drop, right? Because we can just relax for a second. So now when I ask you these questions [00:21:35] now, like you are worthy of being seen, that you [00:21:40] are smart enough, you are knowledgeable enough, you are a leader. [00:21:45] Now I'm gonna say those again, and you just tell me if there's [00:21:50] any resistance in your mind, and you'll feel it in your mind and your body.
[00:21:53] Jim Curtis: You are worthy of being [00:21:55] seen by millions. You are smart enough. You are capable [00:22:00] enough. You are knowledgeable enough. You can create [00:22:05] change and generational wealth at the same time.
[00:22:09] Dr. Taz: The [00:22:10] first and the last-
[00:22:11] Jim Curtis: Okay ...
[00:22:12] Dr. Taz: have resistance.
[00:22:12] Jim Curtis: You are worthy of being seen.
[00:22:14] Dr. Taz: [00:22:15] Mm-hmm.
[00:22:15] Jim Curtis: Yeah. So now we just ask the subconscious mind, and something will come up immediately because we're
[00:22:19] Jim Curtis: [00:22:20] Subconscious mind just asks questions. So now is this, um, subconscious mind, you [00:22:25] ask, is this a belief from my childhood? Or- Yes. Okay. Good. [00:22:30] Could it go further back? Could this be a belief that was ingrained in my genes?
[00:22:34] Dr. Taz: Yes. [00:22:35]
[00:22:35] Jim Curtis: Ah, that came out stronger. Mm-hmm. Okay. So this is a belief that was in your genes. Is it [00:22:40] from your mother or from your father?
[00:22:43] Dr. Taz: Both.
[00:22:44] Jim Curtis: Okay. So you [00:22:45] believe that this idea of being seen, this, this, you know, not capable of [00:22:50] being seen, the resistance to that, is something that came from your mother and father into [00:22:55] your genes. Okay. And did it go back further than that? Just ask this question, is it further [00:23:00] back than them? Is it, is this generational trauma in some way?
[00:23:04] Jim Curtis: I'm [00:23:05]
[00:23:05] Dr. Taz: not as clear there. Okay. I think it's generational on my ... Hmm, [00:23:10] not clear. Um- Okay ... not clear.
[00:23:13] Jim Curtis: Okay.
[00:23:13] Dr. Taz: Yeah, yeah.
[00:23:13] Jim Curtis: So what we've gotten to [00:23:15] so far is that there's resistance to this idea, right? This idea that you need [00:23:20] to accomplish your mission.
[00:23:21] Dr. Taz: Mm-hmm.
[00:23:22] Jim Curtis: And then when we go back and we say to the subconscious mind, "Is this [00:23:25] resistance based on my childhood?"
[00:23:26] Jim Curtis: Yes. But is it further back than that? Is it in my ... Is it given [00:23:30] to me by one of my parents, like, genetically? And is like, okay, yes, this, they had [00:23:35] this. And does it go back further than that? Maybe not. So okay, so we start there. [00:23:40] Now we say, "What do I need?" And it will come in a, uh, that [00:23:45] will come in a picture or a word.
[00:23:47] Jim Curtis: What do I need to [00:23:50] resolve this issue?
[00:23:53] Dr. Taz: But do I need to [00:23:55] resolve belief is the first word?
[00:23:57] Jim Curtis: Okay.[00:24:00]
[00:24:01] Dr. Taz: Um
[00:24:04] Dr. Taz: [00:24:05] Forgiveness
[00:24:05] Jim Curtis: Forgiveness. Great. So that came pretty strong- Mm-hmm ... that second one. And [00:24:10] typically we do this in a theta state where I put you into- Right. Right, right, right ... right? But it doesn't, you don't need to be, because [00:24:15] it's, this will come, right? The body knows.
[00:24:16] Dr. Taz: Yeah.
[00:24:16] Jim Curtis: The body knows, the mind knows. Yeah. It comes up.
[00:24:18] Jim Curtis: Okay. So [00:24:20] we know that with epigenetics, the genes can be changed.
[00:24:23] Dr. Taz: Mm-hmm.
[00:24:23] Jim Curtis: And we also know that, [00:24:25] um, we carry the beliefs of the parents- Mm-hmm ... right? And so this is not [00:24:30] necessarily something that you're holding yourself. It's been given to you. And so to resolve [00:24:35] it, you need to forgive both yourself and your parents for giving it to you.
[00:24:38] Dr. Taz: Mm-hmm.
[00:24:38] Jim Curtis: And so as we [00:24:40] start to do that, there are many different ways where we can start to say, [00:24:45] one, "I no longer carry this burden." Two, "I forgive the [00:24:50] mother. I forgive the father." I like to use the Ho'oponopono prayer, which is, "I'm sorry. Please [00:24:55] forgive me. Thank you. I love you."
[00:24:56] Dr. Taz: Mm.
[00:24:56] Jim Curtis: And as we say that over and over again, it listens and [00:25:00] resonates not only with our own energy and not only with our own subconscious, but the universal mind [00:25:05] itself- Mm
[00:25:05] Jim Curtis: and that's getting some spirituality in there. Wow. But, um, but as you [00:25:10] start to say, oh my God, this is, one, an awareness [00:25:15] of a block that can be released, and now I [00:25:20] need to ... Everything that I take out, this is fun about the subconscious mind, especially, like, [00:25:25] people who are smokers. You're like, okay- Right ... I'm gonna remove this need for smoking.
[00:25:28] Jim Curtis: I need to replace it. [00:25:30] And usually it's like, drink water. But when it's more emotion-based, it's like, [00:25:35] okay, I'm going to r- you know, kind of understand and release this [00:25:40] genetic predisposition to s- maybe not be seen-
[00:25:44] Dr. Taz: [00:25:45] Mm-hmm ...
[00:25:45] Jim Curtis: and forgive it from Mom and Dad, forgive myself for believing that it was [00:25:50] an issue with me, and therefore, I can move beyond it and [00:25:55] start to align with this idea that I am a [00:26:00] guiding light put on this world to bring this message for people's [00:26:05] health, and that who better than me?
[00:26:07] Dr. Taz: Hmm.
[00:26:08] Jim Curtis: And then as [00:26:10] you start to install that new belief- You can start to become and [00:26:15] act as if. And that is less of a manifestation out here-
[00:26:19] Dr. Taz: Right ... and
[00:26:19] Jim Curtis: [00:26:20] more of a realization-
[00:26:21] Dr. Taz: I like literally feel... I don't know how to describe how I feel. I feel like- [00:26:25]
[00:26:25] Jim Curtis: You feel like something new has been installed ...
[00:26:27] Dr. Taz: new and re- and released.
[00:26:29] Dr. Taz: I [00:26:30] feel like something just got released.
[00:26:31] Jim Curtis: Yeah.
[00:26:31] Dr. Taz: Not to steal your words, but you
[00:26:33] Jim Curtis: know, so. No, that's what, that's why I say this- Yeah ... [00:26:35] in the Book of Possibility, it's release the line to come. Yeah. And this, this book is the next best thing to working with [00:26:40] me one-on-one- Wow ... 'cause it has all these guided meditation.
[00:26:42] Jim Curtis: Because then we, then we solidify [00:26:45] this code. Because what just happened there is I spoke to your subconscious mind in a way that [00:26:50] allowed you to unravel a knot.
[00:26:52] Dr. Taz: Mm-hmm.
[00:26:53] Jim Curtis: Right? That's been locked. With awareness and [00:26:55] then release. Mm-hmm. And then now you can really work on the truth.
[00:26:58] Dr. Taz: Mm.
[00:26:58] Jim Curtis: And the truth [00:27:00] is that there is a possibility where there is [00:27:05] 100% chance that you are the one who's meant to bring this [00:27:10] to people.
[00:27:11] Dr. Taz: I just got chills.
[00:27:11] Jim Curtis: Yeah. Right?
[00:27:13] Dr. Taz: Mm-hmm.
[00:27:13] Jim Curtis: And so if that is a [00:27:15] possibility, now all that's left is for you to take action in an [00:27:20] inspired way to do it.
[00:27:22] Dr. Taz: Powerful. I wish I could tell you [00:27:25] guys, I have, I have, like, chills, you know? This is incredible. [00:27:30] So what are some ... So that was mine, right? My, my hangup, my block, [00:27:35] whatever we wanna call it.
[00:27:36] Dr. Taz: Mm-hmm. What are some of the common things that ... Are there patterns that [00:27:40] keep coming up for people? Mm-hmm. Are there common things that are holding them [00:27:45] back? And- Yeah.
[00:27:46] Jim Curtis: So there's a lot of patterns. There's around finances.
[00:27:48] Dr. Taz: Hmm.
[00:27:49] Jim Curtis: Um, [00:27:50] people that are, one, afraid of finances. Yeah. They're afraid they won't have enough money.
[00:27:54] Jim Curtis: They ... [00:27:55] Or if they do have enough money, they think they're going to lose it, or they can't save it, or they get it, and then they [00:28:00] spend it all- Right ... or they give it away.
[00:28:01] Dr. Taz: Right.
[00:28:01] Jim Curtis: Um, especially when they're reaching new levels. I always tell [00:28:05] a story that in my business a few years ago, after ... I was an executive for a long [00:28:10] time.
[00:28:10] Jim Curtis: Mm-hmm. I made a great living.
[00:28:10] Dr. Taz: Mm-hmm.
[00:28:11] Jim Curtis: But then I started my own business, and [00:28:15] one month I made a lot of money, and I was like, "Wow, that's more money than [00:28:20] I've ever made in a month before ever."
[00:28:21] Dr. Taz: Mm-hmm.
[00:28:22] Jim Curtis: And, and, uh, I started to [00:28:25] tell my team, "You know, I think, uh, these groups are full."
[00:28:27] Dr. Taz: Mm. "
[00:28:28] Jim Curtis: Don't allow ... Yeah, I don't- Mm-hmm
[00:28:29] Jim Curtis: I don't have time [00:28:30] for more clients. In fact," you know, and then I was like, "You know, why don't we give a few away for [00:28:35] free?" Mm-hmm. And, and I start ... And which is all beautiful things, right? Right. It's not bad. I like to keep small groups. Right. I like to give stuff away for [00:28:40] free. Right. And then, um, I started to get nervous about, you know, maybe [00:28:45] I'm doing too much, maybe I'm too busy, and then some people started to be like, "You know, now's not, not the [00:28:50] right time for me.
[00:28:51] Jim Curtis: Um, I, I can't spend this money." And, and, uh, [00:28:55] and I realized that what I was doing is I had reached an upper threshold of my own belief [00:29:00] in my ability to create wealth.
[00:29:02] Dr. Taz: Hmm.
[00:29:02] Jim Curtis: And so I had to actually [00:29:05] say, "Oh, there's a block here." And because of this block and my worthiness [00:29:10] of this level of wealth, I not only slowed myself down, [00:29:15] I, I, I put out an energetic frequency that other people no longer wanna come.[00:29:20]
[00:29:20] Dr. Taz: Wow.
[00:29:21] Jim Curtis: And I had to do a lot of work. I said, "What part of me [00:29:25] believes that I'm not deserving of unlimited [00:29:30] wealth?" And it's like, "Okay, let's go back. What age- Wait, was it? ... what age am [00:29:35] I?" You know, and I got back to an age, and this age was, you know, my blue-collar [00:29:40] parents saying, like, "You have champagne taste and beer pockets," my mother- Mm-hmm
[00:29:44] Jim Curtis: used to say.
[00:29:44] Dr. Taz: [00:29:45] Mm-hmm.
[00:29:45] Jim Curtis: And so people come for that. People come a lot for love, [00:29:50] this idea of good enough, worthy enough, a lot for trauma.
[00:29:53] Dr. Taz: Yeah.
[00:29:53] Jim Curtis: A lot for trauma [00:29:55] of things that have happened
[00:29:55] Dr. Taz: in the past. Talk, talk to us about trauma for a second, you know, and what it does [00:30:00] to the subconscious, what it does to the brain, how it drives [00:30:05] behavior.
[00:30:05] Dr. Taz: You know, what's going on there?
[00:30:07] Jim Curtis: Yeah. So, uh, you know, I'm not a [00:30:10] trauma specialist, so I can't-
[00:30:11] Dr. Taz: Right ...
[00:30:11] Jim Curtis: give exactly.
[00:30:12] Dr. Taz: Right, right, right. But- This is totally just based on-
[00:30:13] Jim Curtis: Right ...
[00:30:14] Dr. Taz: what you've [00:30:15] seen, what you've observed- Yeah ... your experience.
[00:30:17] Jim Curtis: So I feel is that people really hold onto this [00:30:20] because they don't know how to release it, and then they shame themselves for having it.
[00:30:23] Dr. Taz: Mm.
[00:30:23] Jim Curtis: Right? And then they [00:30:25] find reasons to, you know, fear it and then almost becoming addicted to all of that.
[00:30:29] Dr. Taz: [00:30:30] Mm.
[00:30:30] Jim Curtis: Right? So now what would I be without this trauma? And so... And [00:30:35] it's like this is, is only almost an ownership of it. Like, "This is mine. It made me." It becomes [00:30:40] part of our identity, whether it's abusive parents or a child dying or an illness, [00:30:45] uh, or that really bad divorce.
[00:30:48] Dr. Taz: Mm-hmm.
[00:30:49] Jim Curtis: And so [00:30:50] it stores in the body, and we don't really know how to release it. Um, [00:30:55] and so when people come to me with a lot of trauma, we, we have to very [00:31:00] gently allow the mind and the body to realize that this can be [00:31:05] released. You don't need to hold onto it anymore. And two, you know, it's one thing to feel terrible.
[00:31:09] Jim Curtis: It's another [00:31:10] thing to be upset that you feel terrible- Mm-hmm ... or feel that you, you know, you haven't gotten over it quick [00:31:15] enough. Some people come, "It's been 30 years and I'm still thinking about-" Right ... you know? Yeah. And it's [00:31:20] like, okay, well, there are two things. That's okay. You can't do it wrong. [00:31:25] This is the path.
[00:31:26] Jim Curtis: That's one thing they say is like, "You're doing it exactly right."
[00:31:29] Dr. Taz: Mm. [00:31:30]
[00:31:30] Jim Curtis: This is your life, you know? This is the human experience, and we're gonna experience [00:31:35] pain. And the second thing is there is a possibility that you can move forward so [00:31:40] powerfully, and all you have to do is see it.
[00:31:43] Dr. Taz: Let's talk about [00:31:45] some of your work a- around the subconscious and belief and release and belief release [00:31:50] and...
[00:31:50] Dr. Taz: What, wait, what? Did I say release, align- Release, align, and become ... and become. We haven't talked about become.
[00:31:53] Jim Curtis: Okay.
[00:31:54] Dr. Taz: So before I, uh, [00:31:55] move on, let's talk about become. We've talked about align-
[00:31:56] Jim Curtis: Yeah ...
[00:31:57] Dr. Taz: which is [00:32:00] Acknowledging an awareness and then retelling your s- rewriting your story, right? [00:32:05] Uh, and then realigning to that.
[00:32:07] Dr. Taz: What has become?
[00:32:09] Jim Curtis: Yeah. [00:32:10] It's all around awareness. So the release is, okay, I just figured out I have a [00:32:15] block, like we did, and I want, I wanna now release that block so that [00:32:20] I can create a vision for the future-
[00:32:22] Dr. Taz: Mm-hmm ...
[00:32:22] Jim Curtis: align with that vision-
[00:32:23] Dr. Taz: Mm-hmm ...
[00:32:24] Jim Curtis: fall in love with [00:32:25] it, which love is ... And when I talk about love is blissful alignment.
[00:32:29] Dr. Taz: Mm-hmm.
[00:32:29] Jim Curtis: [00:32:30] Right? As opposed to this romantic- Right ... chemical love. Mm-hmm. Fall in love with it in this blissful alignment, so it's [00:32:35] actually fun, and now become it. And to become it, it has to become part of our identity, our [00:32:40] I am. Our I am, who we believe we're capable, who we believe we are, w- who [00:32:45] everything about us is what creates our reality.
[00:32:47] Jim Curtis: Our identity creates our reality. So that's the first [00:32:50] part. How do I create a new reality that says, "I am [00:32:55] this"? And the biggest thing is to say, "I am not..." Like in hypnosis, around drinking [00:33:00] or hip- Yep ... smoking. "I am, I'm not a smoker. I'm not the type of person that smokes."
[00:33:04] Dr. Taz: [00:33:05] Mm. "
[00:33:05] Jim Curtis: I'm not a drinker. I'm not the type of person who drinks."
[00:33:08] Jim Curtis: And so we start to s- when you [00:33:10] start to say that, you're like, "Oh, then I wouldn't smoke. I'm just not a smoker."
[00:33:13] Dr. Taz: Right.
[00:33:13] Jim Curtis: So when we start to [00:33:15] align our identity, who we believe we are, supported by our ego, then it [00:33:20] becomes. And so that's one thing that we do with, in becoming. The second part is to [00:33:25] realize that we are much bigger than this ego, than this body- [00:33:30] Mm-hmm
[00:33:30] Jim Curtis: than this manifestation of us. Mm-hmm. That there is energy and forces far [00:33:35] beyond what we can comprehend and see, whether we call it the quantum field, the universe, the universal mind, the [00:33:40] void- Mm-hmm ... God, spirit. And so if we can align with this, the I am that I am, meaning [00:33:45] I am the creator.
[00:33:46] Dr. Taz: Right.
[00:33:46] Jim Curtis: You know, the Bible says, "I am that I am."
[00:33:49] Jim Curtis: You know, [00:33:50] everything from the Buddhists to- Everybody ... the Sufi religion. Ev- everybody, [00:33:55] right Everybody's talking about we create our reality around us.
[00:33:57] Dr. Taz: Mm-hmm.
[00:33:58] Jim Curtis: So if we can align with that [00:34:00] in a theta state, which I believe is the bridge [00:34:05] to this quantum, the universal mind, so that we can create [00:34:10] whatever we want.
[00:34:10] Jim Curtis: So the way that I help people do this is like, okay, we're aligning with who we [00:34:15] wanna become.
[00:34:15] Dr. Taz: Mm-hmm.
[00:34:16] Jim Curtis: Let's do the exercises so that it starts to fit into our [00:34:20] identity. Repetition, action around that. [00:34:25] Repetition and action create identity.
[00:34:27] Dr. Taz: Repetition and action- Yes ... create identity. [00:34:30]
[00:34:30] Jim Curtis: Just take work for a second.
[00:34:31] Dr. Taz: Okay.
[00:34:31] Jim Curtis: So did you have a job as a teenager?
[00:34:34] Dr. Taz: Yes.
[00:34:34] Jim Curtis: [00:34:35] Right. What was that job?
[00:34:36] Dr. Taz: Scooping ice cream.
[00:34:37] Jim Curtis: Good. I have a client say the same thing.
[00:34:39] Dr. Taz: [00:34:40] Yeah.
[00:34:40] Jim Curtis: Scooping ice cream. That was probably a great job. Scooping ice cream. And you probably made a lot of tips, right? Made a
[00:34:44] Dr. Taz: lot of tips.
[00:34:44] Jim Curtis: [00:34:45] Yeah, and in the summer. Yes. I know. And so as a teenager, that was a really great job.
[00:34:49] Jim Curtis: Right. And you're like, yeah, [00:34:50] I, I, you know, like, you- some pride that you had a job. Yeah. You know, you had some money. There was some [00:34:55] independence there, right? And so that's great. But now if you were to think about going [00:35:00] back and, like, if someone... If I said to you, "You know, you're gonna take a step back and [00:35:05] become an ice cream scooper again-
[00:35:06] Dr. Taz: Mm-hmm
[00:35:06] Jim Curtis: then your identity has grown beyond that.
[00:35:09] Dr. Taz: Mm-hmm.
[00:35:09] Jim Curtis: It won't [00:35:10] accept it. Like, that's not you anymore.
[00:35:11] Dr. Taz: Right.
[00:35:12] Jim Curtis: Right? And we do this naturally over time, [00:35:15] but we can speed this up and change the identity by repetition and action, [00:35:20] meaning if your identity is about being, um, someone that [00:35:25] can help others, then those first three clients that you get as a hypno coach [00:35:30] or as a coach or as a hypnotherapist, then that starts to solidify that you are [00:35:35] capable of helping others, and your identity starts to change.
[00:35:37] Dr. Taz: Mm.
[00:35:38] Jim Curtis: Or if you wanna be an author, start [00:35:40] writing some chapters, get a Substack, put it out there-
[00:35:42] Dr. Taz: Mm-hmm ...
[00:35:42] Jim Curtis: and your identity starts to change. The next part is [00:35:45] when we go into a theta state or a hypnosis or a deep transcendental meditation, we can start to [00:35:50] connect with our subconscious and with the field of po- infinite [00:35:55] possibility and start to invoke the I am that I am-
[00:35:58] Dr. Taz: Hmm
[00:35:59] Jim Curtis: with these I [00:36:00] am statements in that state, and it changes our energy and our spirit. [00:36:05]
[00:36:05] Dr. Taz: So fascinating. How do we get You know, as I'm hearing you speak, how do we get into [00:36:10] that theta state? Like, what is a good way to get there? Most of us are running around, [00:36:15] most of us are juggling 50,000 things, right? Mm-hmm.
[00:36:18] Dr. Taz: You know, how do we get there so that [00:36:20] we can actually walk through this process?
[00:36:21] Jim Curtis: Yeah. And I like to do [00:36:25] self-hypnosis.
[00:36:25] Dr. Taz: Okay.
[00:36:25] Jim Curtis: W- anybody can do it, and it's different than meditation because a [00:36:30] meditation is a very mindful- Right ... practice. And so meditation is I'm here, [00:36:35] and when I'm gonna focus on my breathing, and when- Right
[00:36:37] Jim Curtis: a thought comes, I'm gonna let it go.
[00:36:38] Dr. Taz: Mm-hmm.
[00:36:39] Jim Curtis: And with [00:36:40] self-hypnosis, your mind can wander and wander, and drift and dream. And we just- It's almost
[00:36:44] Dr. Taz: [00:36:45] easier.
[00:36:45] Jim Curtis: It, it is. I think it's easier. I
[00:36:46] Dr. Taz: think it sounds easier. Yeah. I remember when I first started [00:36:50] meditating, it was like, "Okay, you're meditating. All right. Well, here we go.
[00:36:52] Dr. Taz: Here we..." It was like a- Yeah ... it was like something to like- Meditate. [00:36:55] All right ... muscle through. You know? So, yeah. Oh, God, I need to get
[00:36:56] Jim Curtis: up and g-
[00:36:57] Dr. Taz: Exactly ... stack the
[00:36:57] Jim Curtis: magazines
[00:36:58] Dr. Taz: again. Exactly. Uh. You know?
[00:36:59] Jim Curtis: So.
[00:36:59] Dr. Taz: [00:37:00] Yeah.
[00:37:00] Jim Curtis: Yeah. And so with self-hypnosis, what can happen is that we... And [00:37:05] there are many videos on this. Yeah. But we can get ourselves into a relaxed state [00:37:10] where our, the part of our mind that, that listens to it all-
[00:37:14] Dr. Taz: [00:37:15] Mm-hmm
[00:37:15] Jim Curtis: meaning we can even understand... You know, there's a part of us that's listening [00:37:20] to... There's a part of me that's listening to me talking right now.
[00:37:22] Dr. Taz: Mm-hmm.
[00:37:23] Jim Curtis: Or the director.
[00:37:24] Dr. Taz: Yep.
[00:37:24] Jim Curtis: [00:37:25] And so we use the director to get us into a relaxed state, count us down [00:37:30] from 10, tell our body to relax, a progressive relaxation with our body- Mm-hmm
[00:37:34] Jim Curtis: and we get [00:37:35] into a, a trance state. And then from there, we can [00:37:40] start to give ourselves suggestions.
[00:37:42] Dr. Taz: So you can do that anywhere?
[00:37:44] Jim Curtis: You can do it [00:37:45] anywhere. You can... You know, you don't have
[00:37:46] Dr. Taz: to- In your car. You could do it- One...
[00:37:47] Jim Curtis: Not while driving, but yes.
[00:37:48] Dr. Taz: Well, yeah, ideally not while [00:37:50] driving. But you can do... I mean, you don't need
[00:37:52] Jim Curtis: a s- A lot of people join my groups from the front seat of their car 'cause it's the only [00:37:55] private place they
[00:37:55] Dr. Taz: have.
[00:37:56] Dr. Taz: Yeah. So it doesn't need necessarily, like, an appointment [00:38:00] or production or... It's just something you do.
[00:38:03] Jim Curtis: That's what's wonderful about [00:38:05] self-hypnosis, is that you don't have to go to a hypnotherapist to do it. You're your, you're your own, [00:38:10] you're your own coach.
[00:38:13] Dr. Taz: Tell me a little bit about what you've [00:38:15] seen, you know, in your work with just medical conditions.
[00:38:19] Dr. Taz: You... It [00:38:20] started you on this journey, right? Mm-hmm. Now I see all kinds of things. Our team, you know, we see all [00:38:25] kinds of things in practice. Everything. You know, there's a escalating mental health, you know, [00:38:30] crisis amongst all ages. There is, uh, an escalation of [00:38:35] diagnoses like autoimmune disease and cancer, and it's all- Yeah
[00:38:37] Dr. Taz: skewing downward in terms of age groups [00:38:40] and when we're first starting to see some of the stuff. What, what are you [00:38:45] seeing... How, how do the two worlds come together is my question. How, how does this world [00:38:50] around belief and your subconscious, you know, tie [00:38:55] into the very physical medical world which you know is a huge engine that is [00:39:00] constantly pumping out advice and information?
[00:39:02] Dr. Taz: How do the two come together?
[00:39:03] Jim Curtis: Right. Well, I see it as [00:39:05] emotional regulation.
[00:39:06] Dr. Taz: Mm.
[00:39:06] Jim Curtis: And if we can regulate our emotions so that we [00:39:10] feel less anxious, I believe that has so many benefits. And so what I use in my [00:39:15] work is the ability just to remove some of the, that inflammation [00:39:20] of the mind.
[00:39:20] Dr. Taz: Mm.
[00:39:20] Jim Curtis: So that, uh-
[00:39:21] Dr. Taz: I love that you use that word.
[00:39:22] Jim Curtis: Yeah. That's a
[00:39:22] Dr. Taz: good word.
[00:39:23] Jim Curtis: Yeah.
[00:39:23] Dr. Taz: So.
[00:39:24] Jim Curtis: So that- Yeah ... the [00:39:25] inflammation in the body goes away.
[00:39:26] Dr. Taz: Right.
[00:39:26] Jim Curtis: And so, um, there have been many [00:39:30] clinicals or- Mm-hmm ... many studies that show how meditation does that or how [00:39:35] hypnosis can, can help do that. And so I believe that with emotional [00:39:40] regulation you can reduce your pain.
[00:39:41] Dr. Taz: Mm-hmm.
[00:39:42] Jim Curtis: And so that means that you stop letting your [00:39:45] emotions take- Right ... control of you.
[00:39:46] Dr. Taz: Hmm.
[00:39:47] Jim Curtis: Right? It... I mean, and, and [00:39:50] you realize that we have lots of emotions and they come and go, and we don't have to [00:39:55] follow them every time. And every thought that we have is not true, and so we can let [00:40:00] those go, too. And if we are practicing emotional regulation [00:40:05] and we release some of the worry and the fear, then that often creates a [00:40:10] difficult, different chemical makeup in our body-
[00:40:12] Dr. Taz: Mm-hmm
[00:40:12] Jim Curtis: and people experience less pain. [00:40:15] People experience more ease in their joints. Um, and [00:40:20] for me, it helped me walk better.
[00:40:22] Dr. Taz: Oh, wow.
[00:40:22] Jim Curtis: Yeah.
[00:40:23] Dr. Taz: Yeah.
[00:40:23] Jim Curtis: So now I not only [00:40:25] would, um, stop shaming my body-
[00:40:26] Dr. Taz: Right ... like, "
[00:40:27] Jim Curtis: Damn this knee for not working," or- Yeah ... whatever [00:40:30] it was. Instead I would say, "You know what? You're doing the best you can.
[00:40:33] Jim Curtis: I can't believe this body's still holding me up [00:40:35] after all you've been through." Mm-hmm. Um, and-
[00:40:37] Dr. Taz: You flip
[00:40:37] Jim Curtis: the script ... yeah, you flip it. Mm-hmm. And so it's [00:40:40] like, wow, that's gratitude. Okay. And that feels better. [00:40:45] And now how do I start to visualize? And so what I start to do is [00:40:50] really visualize. Okay, this is my knee lifting when I go upstairs.
[00:40:54] Jim Curtis: This is... [00:40:55] And so now I was telling my body in a loving way [00:41:00] how to move.
[00:41:00] Dr. Taz: Mm.
[00:41:01] Jim Curtis: And I started to walk again, and I started to [00:41:05] lower the inflammation in my body. 'Cause you were not
[00:41:06] Dr. Taz: walking...
[00:41:06] Jim Curtis: I wasn't... Well, it was a short period of time where I wasn't walking.
[00:41:09] Dr. Taz: [00:41:10] Okay.
[00:41:10] Jim Curtis: But for many years, I couldn't walk more than three blocks.
[00:41:13] Jim Curtis: There was, it was always painful- Mm-hmm ... pain [00:41:15] in my ankles, and that pain is gone.
[00:41:18] Dr. Taz: Incredible
[00:41:18] Jim Curtis: And most of it's [00:41:20] because of emotional regulation
[00:41:22] Dr. Taz: I feel like emotional regulation is something I see everyone [00:41:25] struggle with nowadays Mm-hmm ... whether, you know, it's, uh, people my age or our children's [00:41:30] age or everybody in between.
[00:41:32] Dr. Taz: Why are we having such a problem with [00:41:35] this right now?
[00:41:36] Jim Curtis: I think because we have so much [00:41:40] information, and we're addicted to it Is it almost too
[00:41:42] Dr. Taz: much?
[00:41:42] Jim Curtis: Yes. I heard [00:41:45] someone say, I don't know who it was or what their credentials were, but they said, [00:41:50] "You know, we weren't meant to have all the world's information at our fingertips [00:41:55] every minute."
[00:41:55] Dr. Taz: Mm. "
[00:41:56] Jim Curtis: That we lived in small villages of 100 people- Yeah ... and in our tribe, [00:42:00] we kind of just kept things going copacetic. And now that we have all this [00:42:05] information of every human all over the world all at once, that it just [00:42:10] causes dysregulation."
[00:42:11] Dr. Taz: Mm. And I- And that looks like anxiety or anger or-
[00:42:14] Jim Curtis: [00:42:15] Fear ...
[00:42:15] Dr. Taz: OCD or fear or worry Yeah One of the things I love about Chinese [00:42:20] medicine is that they very much connected your emotional state with your [00:42:25] physical health, right?
[00:42:26] Dr. Taz: Yeah I mean, every meridian had an emotion that goes with it- I love that ... goes with [00:42:30] it and has a physical ailment that goes with it. And so in our practice, the way we, you know, the [00:42:35] methodology that we use, we bring that into the medical model. And, you know, I will do a lot [00:42:40] of like, "Okay, your spleen meridian is off, and that goes with worry, so tell me- Oh, wow
[00:42:44] Dr. Taz: [00:42:45] about that." And they're like, "Wait, what? What are you doing right now?" Do you do the muscle
[00:42:48] Jim Curtis: testing
[00:42:49] Dr. Taz: as- Not muscle [00:42:50] testing ... yeah We do... It's meridian evaluation, where you can measure electrical resistance at the [00:42:55] acupuncture points. Oh, wow. And it spits out, like, a meridian evaluation, and every [00:43:00] meridian has an emotion, has an organ, has acupuncture points on it.
[00:43:04] Dr. Taz: And [00:43:05] so I always warn everybody, I go, "This is not, like, academic," right? "This is not like, you [00:43:10] know, conventional medicine type stuff. I can't make a technical diagnosis as a physician off [00:43:15] of this, but I can be guided, you know, in terms of, like, where we really need to [00:43:20] focus." And in that meridian evaluation, it will separate out energy [00:43:25] into physical energy issues versus- Mm-hmm
[00:43:27] Dr. Taz: emotional energy issues. Oh,
[00:43:29] Jim Curtis: wow.
[00:43:29] Dr. Taz: [00:43:30] And the way that that's helpful for our, for myself and my team is that, [00:43:35] okay, if someone has emotional energy issues as their [00:43:40] primary, like that is the main thing- If I turn around and I give them this fancy functional [00:43:45] medicine plan with, like, all these labs to do and all these things to take and all these [00:43:50] data points to track, they don't have the bandwidth for it, right?
[00:43:52] Dr. Taz: Yeah. It's gonna fail.
[00:43:53] Jim Curtis: Yeah.
[00:43:53] Dr. Taz: And so [00:43:55] that, you know, that I keep educating everybody is a sign, like, okay, that stuff [00:44:00] goes away. They actually need somebody like you or somebody, you know, who's going to really work with them [00:44:05] on emotional regulation and on release, you know? Yeah. And [00:44:10] for me, you know, to answer my own question, that's where the stuff really fits because for some people, [00:44:15] their physicality and their symptomology is actually a, it's, [00:44:20] it's actually emotional first.
[00:44:21] Dr. Taz: You know what I mean? Yeah. It's actually starting there. It's neuroinflammation is the [00:44:25] word that I use- Oh, really? ... all the time, right? Yeah. So, so that's why when you said that, I'm like, ding. [00:44:30] But, um, but that- I
[00:44:31] Jim Curtis: love that. It's so interesting that you can measure the energy of the meridian. [00:44:35]
[00:44:35] Dr. Taz: Yeah. I mean that- I mean, conventionally they're gonna dismiss it, right?
[00:44:38] Dr. Taz: But we've been doing it since the [00:44:40] beginning. I've had the practice now for 17, 18 years, and I brought it [00:44:45] in on day one 'cause I've always been fascinated by Chinese medicine. But I also didn't [00:44:50] have the experience of the ancient Chinese practitioners, right? I didn't have legacies and [00:44:55] generation, 'cause they hand the knowledge down, like, you know, practitioner to practitioner over generations.
[00:44:59] Dr. Taz: [00:45:00] So I knew I didn't have that, like, instant you know, gift that [00:45:05] many of the Chinese medicine practitioners have, where it's face and tongue diagnosis, and they know very [00:45:10] quickly what's going on with you. So I'm like, "We need like a more tangible way of like assessing this." [00:45:15] So that tool has led me down this path, right?
[00:45:19] Dr. Taz: And led me to [00:45:20] being open to understanding where this intersection is, you know? [00:45:25] So for me, I'm still not where you are, but, you know, for me, I see grief [00:45:30] and worry and fear and, uh, you know, [00:45:35] anger as emotions I can actually measure-
[00:45:38] Jim Curtis: Wow ...
[00:45:39] Dr. Taz: and then [00:45:40] paint and draw to where they're impacting like the organs and the [00:45:45] numbers and all the other things.
[00:45:47] Jim Curtis: Yeah.
[00:45:47] Dr. Taz: And bringing that together, sometimes people get it, but [00:45:50] sometimes I see like, you know, they're just like, "Wait, what's she doing now?" But I do feel like it's the [00:45:55] future. I, you know, it is the future if we can understand that, you [00:46:00] know, as individuals about ourselves. But I'm even thinking about the family, [00:46:05] right?
[00:46:05] Dr. Taz: Like you've got a family body where some people may be emotionally regulated and [00:46:10] some people may not be.
[00:46:11] Jim Curtis: Mm-hmm.
[00:46:11] Dr. Taz: But that changes the frequency of what's going on within that family. [00:46:15]
[00:46:15] Jim Curtis: Yeah.
[00:46:15] Dr. Taz: And then that in turn changes the belief of every single person coming out of that [00:46:20] family, right? That's our family story, right?
[00:46:21] Dr. Taz: That's where some of this is coming from that you touched on.
[00:46:24] Jim Curtis: Right.
[00:46:24] Dr. Taz: You know? [00:46:25] Like each of us, if you sat us down as sisters, you know, there's three of us. Like we [00:46:30] probably tell very similar stories even though we may not look exactly the same, 'cause we're coming out [00:46:35] of the s- same unit, right? Right. So the importance of like [00:46:40] being able to do this work is important, you know, for us each [00:46:45] individually.
[00:46:45] Jim Curtis: Mm-hmm.
[00:46:46] Dr. Taz: It's important medically, but it's also important like in the structure that we [00:46:50] create as families or societies or communities or any of those things. 'Cause that's the whole
[00:46:52] Jim Curtis: reason we're here, right?
[00:46:53] Dr. Taz: Correct. You know? Right. [00:46:55] And that's how you grow, and that's- Yeah ... how you build. Yes. You know? So j- I think it's so important.
[00:46:59] Dr. Taz: What are some of the [00:47:00] other blocks that you've seen people kinda come up against that they may not even realize that [00:47:05] they have? You know, 'cause like what you just uncovered in me, maybe I knew it, [00:47:10] but I don't think I, I would've been able to verbalize it.
[00:47:13] Jim Curtis: Right.
[00:47:13] Dr. Taz: You know? So I'm [00:47:15] curious, like what are some of the other things that-
[00:47:16] Jim Curtis: Most of it's fear.
[00:47:18] Dr. Taz: Fear.
[00:47:18] Jim Curtis: Right? And [00:47:20] f- that's what I boil it down and, um- I [00:47:25] think at the very, very core of it is, um, [00:47:30] fear of acceptance. You know, I'm not good enough and I won't be accepted. Mm-hmm. I'm not good [00:47:35] enough and I won't be loved. I'm, I'm not... I have a fear that I'm n- I'm not worthy. And it's... [00:47:40] And like you said, we have these family units, and no one wants to go [00:47:45] and live on a m- Some people may say it, but no one wants to go to the- Yeah
[00:47:47] Jim Curtis: top of the mountain and live alone. We all have moments where- Right. Right. [00:47:50] And so really, we're here in this human life, this school of life, to have these interpersonal [00:47:55] relationships, and a lot of our fear results in around what other people are doing. That's [00:48:00] why the book Let Them was such a-
[00:48:01] Dr. Taz: Right ...
[00:48:02] Jim Curtis: giant book, was like, "Oh, let me off the hook.
[00:48:04] Jim Curtis: I don't..." You [00:48:05] know, like, "I don't have to worry about that other person anymore." Right. And there was some immediate relief there.
[00:48:09] Dr. Taz: Yeah.
[00:48:09] Jim Curtis: [00:48:10] And, um, whether that went far enough or not, but, but I believe [00:48:15] that the thing that people don't even realize that's stopping them is a fear somewhere [00:48:20] in their, in their subconscious operating system.
[00:48:23] Dr. Taz: Mm.
[00:48:23] Jim Curtis: And the only way that we can [00:48:25] alleviate that fear is to recognize it and just to give it a lot of love, like you'd give a child love. [00:48:30]
[00:48:30] Dr. Taz: The other word that's floating around in culture right now is, and you touched upon it, is generational... [00:48:35] Well, the words are generational trauma- Yeah ... or generational whatever.
[00:48:39] Dr. Taz: [00:48:40] And, you know, you touched upon, like, is this in your genes? Has this been handed down? But even if it's [00:48:45] in your genes, we can still change things.
[00:48:47] Jim Curtis: Yeah. Yeah, it's been proven. [00:48:50] Yeah. That's what this study of epigenetics is. Like, you know, even with, um ... You know, this [00:48:55] started so long ago with Bruce Lipton's Biology of Belief.
[00:48:57] Jim Curtis: Mm. There is, there is [00:49:00] a possi- n- you know, nothing's written in stone.
[00:49:02] Dr. Taz: Right, and we can change it all. I [00:49:05] did a TED Talk back in, um, 2016 or 2017, and you've already [00:49:10] touched upon it, so I don't wanna spend too much time on it. But very quickly, I think it was a little bit ahead of its [00:49:15] time, but the whole thing was that, uh, you know, my mom and grandmother had their [00:49:20] own stories of, you know, being disadvantaged or, you know, not being able to express [00:49:25] their power in their fullest 'cause of culture and circumstances and what women were back then and where they were and [00:49:30] all that other stuff.
[00:49:31] Dr. Taz: So I always saw in my mom, like, this ... She's brilliant, gorgeous, [00:49:35] brilliant woman, but, like, very hesitant, very fearful. You could see it, [00:49:40] right? And then I come along and raised in a very [00:49:45] chaotic way. They had a very dysfunctional, you know, relationship or whatever else, but I was, like, [00:49:50] the parent, basically, of the family.
[00:49:52] Dr. Taz: And I had the same kind [00:49:55] of thing, a l- a lot of fear, a lot of, like, you know, feeling like you're on unsettled ground all the [00:50:00] time, that type of thing. So I'm like, "You know, well, that's why I'm that way." Then I have this daughter, [00:50:05] and you can't ask for a better, like, family [00:50:10] structure and family unit, right?
[00:50:12] Dr. Taz: Like, stable home, [00:50:15] access, you know, whatever. She has it, too.
[00:50:18] Jim Curtis: Okay. [00:50:20]
[00:50:20] Dr. Taz: And I'm like, "What the hell?" Yeah. You know? And as I started to l- [00:50:25] look, it's the sa- and I can't even ... It's, like, this look. It's this look in her eye. I used to have it. I [00:50:30] probably still do. My mom definitely has it. I, I remember my grandmother from when I was little.[00:50:35]
[00:50:35] Dr. Taz: I'm like, "Why? Why?" You know? And so then as I started to l- actually look at the [00:50:40] science, you know, the mitochondria, the maternal mitochond- the mitochondria is, [00:50:45] like, sent down over generations, and it's not touched usually, you know, from the [00:50:50] maternal line. It doesn't alter that much, and that's actually where emotions and memories and all that stuff is [00:50:55] stored.
[00:50:55] Dr. Taz: Yeah. And I was like, "Oh, my goodness." So I do this TED Talk back in 2016 or [00:51:00] '17. Everyone was like- Okay, good job. I don't know what you were talking about.
[00:51:04] Jim Curtis: [00:51:05] You're ahead of your time.
[00:51:06] Dr. Taz: I
[00:51:06] Jim Curtis: know. You're ahead of your
[00:51:07] Dr. Taz: time. Everyone's like, "Uh, I don't know what she's saying." Yeah. So [00:51:10] anyhow.
[00:51:10] Jim Curtis: Yeah.
[00:51:10] Dr. Taz: But this is the stuff we were talking about, right?
[00:51:13] Dr. Taz: Mm-hmm. That like-
[00:51:13] Jim Curtis: Yep ...
[00:51:14] Dr. Taz: and now people [00:51:15] talk about generational trauma and gener- you know, generational load and things- Yeah ... like that more freely, you [00:51:20] know? Yeah. So I mean, I think this is so promising that we have the [00:51:25] power to change things, you know? What do you hope people take away from The Book of Possibility?[00:51:30]
[00:51:30] Jim Curtis: I ... You know, the, the biggest thing that I hope people will take away is that it's possible. What you [00:51:35] want is possible.
[00:51:35] Dr. Taz: Mm.
[00:51:36] Jim Curtis: You know, and we often think that, you know, "Not for me," [00:51:40] especially with healing and health.
[00:51:41] Dr. Taz: Mm.
[00:51:41] Jim Curtis: It's like, oh, we hear these stories of these miraculous things happening, [00:51:45] like this person healed themself or they-
[00:51:46] Dr. Taz: Right
[00:51:47] Jim Curtis: found this, right? And, and- Right ... we start to think, "Oh, enough. [00:51:50] Not me. Maybe that happened to them, but they didn't have what I had, or [00:51:55] this particular thing." Or, you know, you hear, you hear of someone s- [00:52:00] leaving their job and starting a new career and- Yeah ... having a bestselling book and- Yeah ... uh, not, not me.
[00:52:04] Dr. Taz: Not for [00:52:05] me.
[00:52:05] Dr. Taz: Right? Yeah.
[00:52:05] Jim Curtis: And so it is possible. You know, there is a possibility [00:52:10] that you can do it as well, and it's just [00:52:15] changing the code. There's a few, I call them tweaks- Mm-hmm ... but there's just a few things that you can [00:52:20] realign to, at the very least, live a life that [00:52:25] is more in flow, more happier and with less anxiety.
[00:52:29] Dr. Taz: Do you think [00:52:30] that this type of work, uh, needs to be in the medical training modules? Like, [00:52:35] doctors need to understand how to work with patients on this, or at least bring them- [00:52:40] I don't know ... you know, into the team, like, or into, like, a care plan for, for [00:52:45] patients, especially patients struggling with symptoms and-
[00:52:47] Jim Curtis: Yeah
[00:52:48] Dr. Taz: chronic disease and things like that?
[00:52:49] Jim Curtis: I [00:52:50] think it needs to be more widely available. Uh, I think the doctors have their hands full- Right ... with the [00:52:55] mechanics as it is. True. Yeah. Right?
[00:52:56] Dr. Taz: Mm-hmm.
[00:52:57] Jim Curtis: And so, um- [00:53:00] I think our bodies and our minds are so complex, it really takes a team. Now, what, [00:53:05] what pains me, and I've experienced it and I see it, is how difficult the healthcare [00:53:10] system is- Oh, yeah
[00:53:10] Jim Curtis: to work within.
[00:53:11] Dr. Taz: Yeah.
[00:53:11] Jim Curtis: Yeah, it's... And then if you do go through the [00:53:15] painstaking art of finding the right people to care for you, and then your insurance won't cover it.
[00:53:19] Dr. Taz: [00:53:20] Right.
[00:53:20] Jim Curtis: And so you're caught in this quagmire of overwhelm with too much [00:53:25] information, not being able to find the right person, and then having incredible bills- Mm
[00:53:29] Jim Curtis: that people just [00:53:30] give up. Mm-hmm. They become overwhelmed and give up.
[00:53:31] Dr. Taz: Mm-hmm.
[00:53:32] Jim Curtis: So it's like, what can you take on yourself? Can I [00:53:35] learn meditation, self-hypnosis? Can I learn neuro-linguistic programming so I can get myself [00:53:40] out of these funks? Can I learn to emotionally regulate? And when I do that, can I then go [00:53:45] find the doctor that's going to be progressive like you?
[00:53:47] Dr. Taz: Mm-hmm.
[00:53:48] Jim Curtis: Right? Mm-hmm. And, and in [00:53:50] ways that will look at not just what my body's doing, but maybe my energy and other, [00:53:55] other formats.
[00:53:56] Dr. Taz: To bring this back home for the person listening or watching [00:54:00] today, what would you tell them? If there was one thing they could do to [00:54:05] start to enter this world of, of understanding, right, [00:54:10] and tapping into their subconscious and rewriting their story and realigning, what is one [00:54:15] thing that you would have them do and maybe work on just for a couple minutes every single day?
[00:54:19] Dr. Taz: What would you have them [00:54:20] do?
[00:54:20] Jim Curtis: Yeah, I would start with 10 minutes in the morning and 10 minutes at night. So right when [00:54:25] you-
[00:54:25] Dr. Taz: That's an easy prescription, guys. Right? 10 minutes in the morning, 10 minutes at night.
[00:54:28] Jim Curtis: People are like, "Oh my God, 20 minutes?" I can do
[00:54:29] Dr. Taz: [00:54:30] that.
[00:54:30] Jim Curtis: 20 minutes.
[00:54:31] Dr. Taz: We can all do that. Yeah. We can all do that.
[00:54:32] Jim Curtis: And, and so, um- [00:54:35] You know, we have 24 hours in the day that we're in the habit of being [00:54:40] ourselves, and so if we just have 20 minutes, you know, every [00:54:45] day, you can make a big dent in that.
[00:54:46] Dr. Taz: Mm-hmm.
[00:54:47] Jim Curtis: You know, the more, if you do two hours a day, [00:54:50] then you're, then you have even a bigger dent. But just say start with 10 minutes in the morning, 10 minutes at night.[00:54:55]
[00:54:55] Jim Curtis: When you wake up and before you go to bed, 'cause your mind is in a natural theta state, and a theta state is [00:55:00] basically hypnosis. It's very suggestible.
[00:55:01] Dr. Taz: Hmm.
[00:55:02] Jim Curtis: And so before bed [00:55:05] you can start to ask your mind questions. You know, show me the... Or, or give it [00:55:10] directives. Show me whatever it is that you wanna accomplish.
[00:55:13] Jim Curtis: Show me the next step and to [00:55:15] accomplish my goal. You know, um, show- And
[00:55:17] Dr. Taz: this is, this should be blue light away from [00:55:20] you, just by yourself in bed.
[00:55:22] Jim Curtis: Yeah, that's the next part.
[00:55:24] Dr. Taz: Okay. Oh, oh, okay.
[00:55:24] Jim Curtis: So [00:55:25] first- Let me be
[00:55:25] Dr. Taz: quiet. All
[00:55:25] Jim Curtis: right. So- First in the morning, uh- Yeah ... first in the morning, get yourself into a peak [00:55:30] state by doing some meditation or self-hypnosis.
[00:55:33] Jim Curtis: Uh, and at night, direct your [00:55:35] mind by give, writing directives out, reading them, putting next to your bed stable. You know, I do this yellow [00:55:40] butterfly manifestation technique- Mm-hmm ... for people. Um, if someone wants to find it, they can find it [00:55:45] easily on my stuff, but it just shows how you can prime your reticular activating system.
[00:55:48] Dr. Taz: Mm.
[00:55:49] Jim Curtis: The next [00:55:50] step is shut, stop watching the news.
[00:55:52] Dr. Taz: Yeah.
[00:55:53] Jim Curtis: No, if you have [00:55:55] CNN on in the background or you're like, "Mm, I wanna watch Family Feud in the night, in the news," like [00:56:00] please shut it off. Mm. Stop.
[00:56:01] Dr. Taz: Mm-hmm.
[00:56:02] Jim Curtis: And the next part is, if you're gonna continue to do a few [00:56:05] hours a day on social media, know that the algorithm picks up and [00:56:10] will serve you more of whatever you're interested in.
[00:56:12] Jim Curtis: And what you're interested in [00:56:15] is it deems by what, not what you like and save and all that, but what you spend more than [00:56:20] four seconds watching.
[00:56:20] Dr. Taz: Mm.
[00:56:21] Jim Curtis: So if you're in your algorithm and you get caught in the news again, "Oh, there's [00:56:25] another war, there's another thing," and you're go- Right ... you're spending like, "Oh, let me just see what they have to say."
[00:56:28] Jim Curtis: Yeah. And now all of a sudden [00:56:30] you've ingested f- 10 seconds of, you know, a piece of content that [00:56:35] is like that, then, um, then it will serve you more and more and more and more and more, and you'll get in [00:56:40] that alg- algorithmic loop. So I would say if you're gonna continue to scroll, [00:56:45] scroll really f- as soon as you see it, scroll it.
[00:56:47] Dr. Taz: Okay.
[00:56:48] Jim Curtis: Literally less than a second. Go ahead. [00:56:50] As fast as you can, and then start tapping and watching more dog videos, please. There you go. They'll [00:56:55] make you laugh, make you happy. Can't
[00:56:55] Dr. Taz: ever-
[00:56:56] Jim Curtis: What, I
[00:56:56] Dr. Taz: don't- Can't ever get upset with a dog video. Not possible
[00:56:58] Jim Curtis: I don't care if it's like the [00:57:00] videos of people scaring each other.
[00:57:01] Jim Curtis: Right. Whatever's gonna make you laugh.
[00:57:03] Dr. Taz: Right.
[00:57:03] Jim Curtis: Just do more, more oxytocin and [00:57:05] endorphins flowing through your body, less fear- Mm ... and things will just start to change.
[00:57:08] Dr. Taz: Hmm. [00:57:10] I love that. Should we just not be on our phones in the morning and at night? If we're- 100% ... naturally in a [00:57:15] theta state, and, like, save it for the middle part of the day?
[00:57:17] Jim Curtis: Yeah. What are you- Yeah ... what are you allowing yourself to be [00:57:20] hypnotized by? Right. So if you're naturally in a theta state and you're watching stuff on your phone, so yes, [00:57:25] that's... I mean, 100%. A lot of people wake up, and the first thing they do is grab their phone. Right. And [00:57:30] i- yeah, that's a hard habit
[00:57:31] Dr. Taz: to break.
[00:57:31] Dr. Taz: I've got patients that, like, wake up in the middle of the night, and they're, they, they tell me they'll go on [00:57:35] their phone until they fall back asleep.
[00:57:36] Jim Curtis: Mm-hmm.
[00:57:36] Dr. Taz: So, and then lastly, you know, you know, [00:57:40] if you're doing this work, is there any sort of... This is a terrible, this is a [00:57:45] typical doctor question, but I'm still gonna ask it.
[00:57:47] Dr. Taz: Is there any kind of, like, timeline? Like, if you do this work [00:57:50] for X amount of time, you start to see these shifts in [00:57:55] couple weeks, 90 days, six months. Like, is-
[00:57:57] Jim Curtis: If you literally do this work- Yes ... right, [00:58:00] you'll see within a couple weeks a change.
[00:58:03] Dr. Taz: Mm.
[00:58:04] Jim Curtis: A lot of people [00:58:05] come and say to me, "My g- you know, I just saw my girlfriend the other day, and all she kept saying is, like, 'Did you get a haircut?'
[00:58:09] Jim Curtis: [00:58:10] Like, 'What's different? What's wrong?'" Mm-hmm. And when you feel calm and centered, it glows, [00:58:15] and people notice.
[00:58:16] Dr. Taz: Yeah.
[00:58:16] Jim Curtis: And so do this work for yourself, [00:58:20] lowering your mental inflammation, as we call it, the neuroinflammation, and you will start [00:58:25] to feel better within a couple weeks' time.
[00:58:27] Dr. Taz: Amazing. We can do that, guys.
[00:58:29] Dr. Taz: 10 minutes. [00:58:30] I'm, I'm in. 10 minutes- Yeah ... twice a day, and no phones in the morning and at night, [00:58:35] and no doom scrolling.
[00:58:36] Jim Curtis: The funny... Yes, exactly. And the funny thing is, once you start to do 10 minutes twice [00:58:40] a day, you're gonna wanna do longer meditations.
[00:58:41] Dr. Taz: Yeah. Yeah. I have... I love [00:58:45] meditating. I love that time. I don't always get it, but I have to make it a priority, and I'm [00:58:50] sure many people feel the same way, but I think the shifts, the shifts are real.
[00:58:53] Dr. Taz: So your book is out-
[00:58:54] Jim Curtis: [00:58:55] Yes ...
[00:58:55] Dr. Taz: in the next few months, right?
[00:58:56] Jim Curtis: Book of Possibility.
[00:58:57] Dr. Taz: That's right. The Book of Possibility. Where can people find the book? Where can they [00:59:00] find you?
[00:59:00] Jim Curtis: They can find me @jimcurtis1
[00:59:04] Jim Curtis: [00:59:05] on Instagram, or they... jimcurtiscoaching.com is my website.
[00:59:06] Dr. Taz: Okay.
[00:59:06] Jim Curtis: And the book is available everywhere, so they can just go to Amazon or wherever [00:59:10] they buy books.
[00:59:10] Dr. Taz: Amazing. And then final question. Yes. What makes you whole? [00:59:15]
[00:59:15] Jim Curtis: What makes me whole? Family.
[00:59:17] Dr. Taz: Family.
[00:59:18] Jim Curtis: Yeah.
[00:59:18] Dr. Taz: I... [00:59:20]
[00:59:20] Jim Curtis: That is one. Family and my, uh, dogs.
[00:59:21] Dr. Taz: Uh, what- I- What kind of dogs do you have?
[00:59:24] Jim Curtis: We have [00:59:25] three dogs. Okay. And they're all mutts. They're different breeds- Okay ... big and small. [00:59:30] And every morning, um, you know, those... I, I strive to be more like these dogs. They [00:59:35] go to bed- Aw ... easily and wake up happy, and they're always in a good mood.
[00:59:38] Dr. Taz: I love it. I [00:59:40] am, I'm in love with our dog, too. We have a pug, a very overweight pug.
[00:59:43] Dr. Taz: Love. But he's there. [00:59:45] Well, thank you for taking time to join us today. Thank you for having me. I appreciate it. Yeah. For everybody else watching and listening, [00:59:50] remember we post new episodes every week. Share this one with somebody who may be blocked, [00:59:55] who wants to push through, and just might need a little bit of extra support.
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