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TBPN is a live tech talk show hosted by John Coogan and Jordi Hays, streaming weekdays from 11–2 PT on X and YouTube, with full episodes posted to Spotify immediately after airing.
Described by The New York Times as “Silicon Valley’s newest obsession,” TBPN has interviewed Mark Zuckerberg, Sam Altman, Mark Cuban, and Satya Nadella. Diet TBPN delivers the best moments from each episode in under 30 minutes.
Watching TVBX. Today is Friday, 12/19/2020. Merry Christmas. Merry Christmas.
Speaker 2:I don't know if we're gonna make it through the show in this costume.
Speaker 3:I don't know.
Speaker 2:I'm gonna be honest Everyone, with you we appreciate you. We're very thankful this holiday, but this is a lot
Speaker 1:for a three hour
Speaker 2:broadcast about technology and
Speaker 3:business. Okay. So folks, a lesson this week Yes. Is that we started Christmas on Monday. We really We we started really strong.
Speaker 3:We start we we talked about how certain advertisers including Amazon got into
Speaker 1:the holiday season a little too quickly. Yeah. Little did we Might know backfire
Speaker 3:on them. Little did we know. Forecheck. We maybe did
Speaker 2:the same thing. We did the exact thing.
Speaker 3:But it has been a very fun week and we're excited to finish strong.
Speaker 2:It's really it's really so good. This this is this may be more entertaining than our than our Halloween episode. We just wanted to say thank you to everyone for an amazing year. What a wild ride. So at the beginning of the year, this show
Speaker 3:Remember last year, didn't we do, like, a Christmas Eve episode?
Speaker 2:I think so.
Speaker 3:We just weren't willing to stop
Speaker 2:Yeah. No. For the very it was it was a really intense schedule, but we weren't live. We didn't have guests. We didn't travel for the show.
Speaker 2:We yeah, we had this whole thesis that, like, what was missing was actually just two people hanging out, having a conversation. And there actually were a lot of interview shows that were doing a great job. Of course, that all plan played out way differently. Yeah. We have the numbers.
Speaker 2:We actually did 225 live streams this year. Thank you to so many of you in the chat that I know we're actually watching for all 225 of those. There's a lot of you. We recognize you all. We know we've learned all of your names.
Speaker 2:It's been fantastic, hanging out here with you every day chatting. Across those 225 livestreams, we interviewed 912 unique guests, And we're also doing another five today, I think. So we're still adding to that, but we almost hit 1,000 guests. Some guests have come on.
Speaker 3:We know the record holder for this year.
Speaker 2:Deli and Asper Ujjav with 18 guest appearances. We've done twelve nineteen interviews and 8,554 posts on X. Interesting. The first guest ever was Ryan Peterson. Sort of a wild move just jumping on a livestream with us.
Speaker 2:We'd never done a guest ever, and it was live. It was very odd. We could talk about anything. But he totally down to just hop on, and it was a lot of fun.
Speaker 3:And he ended up coming on a lot this year because of how much the tariffs and what there was in global trade.
Speaker 2:Gary Tan hooked us up with the ability to stream from YC Demo Day, the Palace of Party Rounds. That was a super, super cool moment.
Speaker 3:Yeah. That was our NFL combine. Yep. And of course, Figma
Speaker 2:Was our our Super Bowl. Exactly. So we got to go to the New York Stock Exchange for the Figma IPO. And again, you know, huge huge gamble for for Dylan to let us hang out And neither either. Everyone there.
Speaker 2:And I feel like we landed on a very unique product, interviewing basically the whole board of directors on IPO day. Less focused on price action, more focused on story.
Speaker 3:Which was crazy. Of course.
Speaker 2:Was crazy. The stock was up, stock was down. And I think that's something we always wanted to come back to is like the posters that make the show possible, the timeline. This show is unique in that that is very much our backbone. Obviously, we read the Wall Street Journal.
Speaker 2:We read a lot of the the news. But for some of the funny moments, some of the funniest moments, some of the most interesting folks we've had on the show, some of the anons that have come on has just really allowed us to to wind up in a different place.
Speaker 3:I was looking back at some of the original
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 3:Love that we got from from different people. Yeah. I remember Balaji texted you super early on and said, great set. Jackson texted one of us the same and so so many others.
Speaker 2:And also thank you to the media that makes this show possible. The fact finding, they do they find Yeah.
Speaker 3:I think early on people wanted us to have this sort of Ad serial relationship. Relationship with the media but the at the end of the day
Speaker 1:It's been very
Speaker 3:incredibly symbiotic. Yep. Media does analysis, fact finding
Speaker 2:Yep.
Speaker 3:Of all different sorts. We incorporate it into the show Yeah. And the show wouldn't be wouldn't be possible Yeah.
Speaker 2:Without that. And and a lot of the profiles, I mean, from the very early days, we were reading a New Yorker profile of Mary Meeker. And that gives you like a certain flavor of what tech was like at that time. And without the legacy media, the traditional media, the corporate media, the new media, the legacy new media, the neo legacy media, Without all of them, we couldn't do what we do. And then, course, thank you to the team.
Speaker 2:The massive fantastic team here at TVPN. We've had a fantastic year with them. They've grown.
Speaker 3:Absolute legends.
Speaker 2:Everyone's figured out ways to improve the show. Every little thing that you see on this show across the Internet, across everywhere where we exist is due to someone on our team being inventive, coming up with a strategy for how that happens, then implementing it, and then executing it every single day like clockwork with Extreme
Speaker 3:it's a and it's a performance. Everything that, you know, as we're sitting here hanging out, talking, they are doing an incredible amount behind the scenes, making sure that the show is dialed. It's really been the highlight of my career working with all of you guys. Yep. So thank you for being part of this.
Speaker 3:They made a video.
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Speaker 3:We pull it up.
Speaker 2:We have a little year in review video that we're gonna watch here and 2025 is gonna be a fantastic year. Lock in
Speaker 3:A locking in that you do today will benefit your great grandchildren.
Speaker 1:I agree.
Speaker 3:If you do it right. Yeah. So do it. Do it. Do it, brother.
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Speaker 1:Welcome to the show. I can't believe he showed up. The Halloween episode, the Christmas episode. And the response was like, would you ever spend 250 k on a car when you took that lift?
Speaker 2:That was the best. That's the scoop of the year. Sam Altman has a good sense of humor. You guys are really important to me.
Speaker 1:Good luck to you guys. Just keep doing what you're doing. You're just you're just electric. There we go. What you guys do is great.
Speaker 1:Also think that you're transforming the way that media is is, you know, dispersed each week and, you know, and and it's awesome.
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Speaker 3:Thank you to everybody that has made this possible by tuning in, enjoying the show, and supporting us however you have. So have a wonderful evening and we will see you tomorrow.
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Speaker 3:Have having the snow effect
Speaker 1:for the whole thing is great. Snow effect.
Speaker 2:The snow effect is not baked into to the underlying video. That, of course, will be shared
Speaker 3:on on Anyways, you. Thank you, Ben. And the and the whole and Nick and Scott and Michael for for making that. You guys you guys are
Speaker 1:the best.
Speaker 3:Correction, actually, shout out to Jackson who made that video. No way. What? Wow. Legend.
Speaker 3:Thank you, Jackson. Legend. Amazing. And Tyler, you do you have any news for us?
Speaker 1:Oh, yeah. Contract extended. What? Oh, no. Gap year.
Speaker 3:Gap year extended. Tyler is not going home. He's not going home. Well, he's going home for the holidays.
Speaker 1:We're gonna have to call him out
Speaker 3:of here. Next semester.
Speaker 2:The jaws of life.
Speaker 3:Contract extended. He's sticking around. It has been truly truly incredible having you here on our set and contributing to the show in such a special way. Yeah. We we should probably figure out a new title at some point other than intern.
Speaker 2:Intern doesn't really make sense.
Speaker 3:It doesn't. It made sense for for a minute, but you're much you're much more than an intern. You're a technology brother. Can we get the Giga Chad? Can we get
Speaker 2:Yeah. Can we at least Giga Chad
Speaker 1:this band?
Speaker 3:Giga Chad this band.
Speaker 2:Come on. Please. Production. Have to thank everyone that actually watched the show. Everyone in chat, we appreciate you and everyone who Watched.
Speaker 2:Everyone who saw. There are so many ways to experience what we do. That is by design. We want to let people we wanna meet them where they are, obviously, in an RSS feed, in a cut down, in a diet TBPN product, in a twenty minute version, in
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Speaker 2:In newsletter, in the trading cards. The trading cards themselves are a way to experience what we do here. And so thank you to everyone who enjoyed any of that No matter how much or how frequently, you did, we appreciate you. Let's go to the timeline. So TikTok owner ByteDance is on track for 50,000,000,000 in profit in 2025.
Speaker 3:Big.
Speaker 2:That's so much money. So this is from Bloomberg. ByteDance is on track for profits of roughly 50,000,000,000, capping a record year for a Chinese social media leader making major inroads into ecommerce and new markets. I mean, it truly is like their hyperscaler. They own a ton of different stuff, gaming, social.
Speaker 2:It's so much more than just TikTok. The Beijing based parent company of TikTok is on track to hit that milestone after amassing net income of about 40,000,000,000 over the years first three quarters. That would take the company's earnings close to that of Meta platform. So ByteDance is now basically the same size as Meta, which is insane. Meta is, of course, earning about 60,000,000,000 this year.
Speaker 2:TikTok success has come over under scrutiny after the Biden administration led an effort to ban TikTok. ByteDance is now close to final finalizing a plan to hive off the video service in The US, which will
Speaker 3:It's gonna be American made. American made Potentially.
Speaker 2:Short form video. Debates over over exactly how that will happen, but Oracle is potentially in the deal. Despite Washington's scrutiny, TikTok has expanded globally at a rapid clip, including in The US. It has been pushing aggressively into ecommerce and livestream shopping. The livestream shopping thing, it it feels like it's so so big over there.
Speaker 2:I wonder if it's somewhat growing here, but it does feel like it it still feels like it has not hit a fever pitch in The United States the way it has abroad. TikTok has signed a deal for The U for the sale of The United States unit. The deal should close January. This is from Sarah Fisher, the media correspondent at Axios. Oracle, Silver Lake and MGX will collectively own 45% of The U.
Speaker 2:S. Entity. 30% will be held by affiliates of existing ByteDance investors, and 20% will be retained by ByteDance. ByteDance, you know, the Chinese entity sort of becomes the minority investor. It sort of goes into American hands loosely or Western hands.
Speaker 2:Yeah. And then, of course, the the the rest of the process can be handled. And you can and you have more leverage to address, like, where is the data stored? How
Speaker 3:is the algorithm the joint venture is gonna be focused on data protection, algorithm security, content moderation, and software assurance. So retraining the content recommendation algorithm on US user data to ensure the content feed is free from outside manipulation.
Speaker 1:Mhmm.
Speaker 3:We'll be interested to see if there's any noticeable effect for TikTok users.
Speaker 2:Megan Borowski over at The Wall Street Journal has a scoop that Meta is in fact developing a new image and video focused AI model code named Mango.
Speaker 3:I like it.
Speaker 2:Alex Wang and Chris Cox talked the new models Mango and Avocado in a q and a with employees this morning. One of those employees said, I gotta tell The Wall Street Journal about this. It's too good. It's too good.
Speaker 3:It's simply too good.
Speaker 4:It's too good.
Speaker 2:I gotta let them know. They said models are expected to be released in the 2026. I mean, they have a lot of data. They should be able to train a great model. I wonder if it's enough to get to just release a Frontier model and really see any usage?
Speaker 2:Or if this is, again, it's like it needs to be vended into Instagram, into meta properties? What what do think, Tyler?
Speaker 1:I mean, I feel like it's very natural to vend this into Instagram. Yeah. And like this model, like, I I would be very surprised if people are surprised by this. Right? Because like the the mid journey in Vibes, like, that was not MSL.
Speaker 1:That was Alexander Wang. Yeah.
Speaker 4:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Yeah. That's just like the product.
Speaker 2:But they they they've done a lot of work to marshal compute, build huge data centers. Like, they're ready for a big run.
Speaker 1:Yeah. Like, I have to be good.
Speaker 2:Yeah. I would expect this to be Dana White and the meta board. This is a match made in heaven.
Speaker 4:Have you got into AI yet?
Speaker 1:Yeah. We're dabbling. Okay. Dabbling.
Speaker 4:Meta AI, I got you know, I'm on the board for meta. I just got back from the meta board meeting.
Speaker 2:So good.
Speaker 4:Zuckerberg, who was a brilliant gangster, this guy. Gangster.
Speaker 2:All I knew were gangsters.
Speaker 4:These people who try to talk about him and everything else. I'm so blown away and impressed by this guy. He's an animal.
Speaker 2:I agree
Speaker 4:with that. And he's an animal. Putting all the chips in on AI. We just hired like 10 kids that are aged 22 to 28. The average salary is like $65,000,000.
Speaker 4:These kids are making that
Speaker 2:a couple of This million is the final leap. AI. Everyone's wondering.
Speaker 4:There's way more positives about AI than negative. So you start looking at AI and getting into it and asking AI, how do I build my business? How do I you know, and it'll start giving you some ideas. And
Speaker 2:Hold on. You can read Is he saying $65,000,000 is the average salary per year?
Speaker 3:I think so. I mean, I think of a salary I think of a salary as a
Speaker 2:That's an annual thing.
Speaker 3:An annual thing.
Speaker 2:10 times that's that's insane.
Speaker 3:And Noah in the chat says meta engineers with a 600 k salary.
Speaker 2:Watching this. Just be like, what? Yeah. So, yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 2:Keep playing this. From
Speaker 4:here to Tulsa, Oklahoma, you'd have to go on a map and you'd have to lay out, you know, your route and all. You gotta do the same thing for your business. Map out your route for '26.
Speaker 2:When I first saw that, I thought he was saying like, AI will be able to get you directions. And I was like, but Yeah. Google Maps can do that.
Speaker 3:Okay. So when when I see But that's this not
Speaker 1:what see. I just It's actually
Speaker 2:a great metaphor.
Speaker 3:Can get stuck in a loop of just wanting to meet with and talk with people and like get ideas and get strategies
Speaker 2:And and
Speaker 3:AI is really good at that. You can say, I have an e commerce company. I want to grow. Should I do? I'll give you bunch of ideas.
Speaker 3:It just shows how worthless a lot of ideas are and how important execution is. Some ideas are Right? It's like you wanna execute on the right ideas but Yeah. Oftentimes to find the right ideas, you gotta try a bunch of stuff. Yeah.
Speaker 3:And so AI is at the point where it can give you the the perfect strategy, the perfect playbook. Even if it's like kind of the average playbook. But in the end, you just still got to go do the work. That's the hard part.
Speaker 2:I think he's actually a pretty good communicator here. He's using a metaphor that people understand, mapping technology, Google Maps for business, for answering other questions, unstructured questions. AI can tell you that. If you think about before, you know, you'd Google, okay, well, my business needs a website. How do I set up a website for my business?
Speaker 2:Okay, I need to go to the store and get a book, Web Development for Dummies.
Speaker 1:This was that this was a thing.
Speaker 3:I remember that.
Speaker 2:Back in the in the nineties, it was like Java for Dummies. Like and so he's he's right. He's delivering it in, this sort of funny way, and he's and he brings, like, this crazy this crazy energy to the performance. But he is correct in, like, the pitch, in this idea. He's he's actually correctly pitching superintelligent personal superintelligent.
Speaker 2:He doesn't really address the fact that, like, you know, there's incredible competition from Anthropic and OpenAI and and Google on this front. But that's not what he's that that's not what he's addressing. He's addressing just the idea of, like, of, like, is AI useful?
Speaker 3:Meta has something, I think, three three and a half to 4,000,000,000 monthly active users. And so I think in those board meetings, you have to imagine they're saying, like, yeah, there's a lot of competition. Yeah, ChatGPT has a big user base. Yeah, Gemini has a big user base. But we have 4,000,000,000 people that we can start distributing.
Speaker 3:If we build a great model, we can start distributing it through WhatsApp, through Instagram, through Facebook, through the Meta AI app, etcetera.
Speaker 2:Yeah. I was listening to Ben Thompson this morning, and he was doing app reviews, like the the the review of the top paid apps and the top free apps. So the twenty twenty five top paid apps. And this is wild. It's like, have you heard of any of these?
Speaker 2:I know. HotSchedules, Shadow
Speaker 1:It Rocket
Speaker 3:seems like Procreate.
Speaker 2:Have you heard of any these? Procreate?
Speaker 3:No. I because I checked the charts a
Speaker 2:SkyView. I've heard of that. Tonal Energy, AutoSleep. They're they're all like a couple dollars. And most people have not really heard of any of these.
Speaker 2:If they have, they're like, oh, yeah. I I use, you know, this for this one little thing or this is a niche thing. And then you go to the top free apps, it's like trillion dollar company, trillion dollar company, trillion dollar company. It's literally ChatGPT threads, Google, TikToks, WhatsApp, Instagram, YouTube, Google Maps, Gmail, Google Gemini. And so Ben's point was if you like ChatGPT, yes, they are the number one app, but they should be scared because Google has one, two, three, four, five in the top 11 or something like that.
Speaker 2:And so the distribution is just so powerful.
Speaker 3:And Yeah. That's top Meta
Speaker 2:has that distribution. So they're also a contender and they can stay in the game.
Speaker 3:So the top the number 22 free app right now, number 21 is Instagram, number 22 is Whatnot, number 23 is HBO Max.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 3:And on the paid side currently, 21 is Threema Secure Messenger. Sounds like an even SaaS version.
Speaker 2:It sounds insecure.
Speaker 3:Yeah. Sounds like Number two is Pocket God, which is a game that includes Call of Booty.
Speaker 2:Wait. Call of Pocket God? Isn't that a nickname for AGI? They've AGI has been solved.
Speaker 3:This is just like a a mobile game. Pocket God. And then number 23 is Jingle, real motion shaker instrument.
Speaker 2:Casey Neistat did a project with the Meta Quest three where he scanned his studio. He says it's pretty rad. You can walk around and look at stuff and get close. Yeah. It's very inspiring from a production perspective because it's practical, but it also has so much character that it it tells you a story.
Speaker 2:And so even when he's just filming a little product review and he's making the seventh video of the month or year or whatever, you're you're you're brought into his world. You understand who Casey is. Every single one of those items tells a story. Should we give Tyler a challenge to actually get this up and running?
Speaker 3:The What's up for that?
Speaker 1:Tried for like, I don't know, maybe two months now. Yeah. You've been able to do a couple experiences on Yep. The MedQuest. Okay.
Speaker 1:But you couldn't record your own yet.
Speaker 2:Mhmm.
Speaker 1:And I I mean, I'm not sure if it's actually I guess it is out that you can do it yourself. So I'm not saying scan the UltraGiga chat elf is so I love the Giga chat elf.
Speaker 2:It's okay. So I yeah. I'm not proposing that you
Speaker 3:you look so ridiculous. Do the sad face. Do the sad face.
Speaker 1:The sad face is the funniest one. It's so funny.
Speaker 2:The jawline is crazy. Oh,
Speaker 1:there we go. Hey. You can't get It looks so real. It's so good. I don't like this one.
Speaker 2:You really look so sad.
Speaker 3:But what's wrong, Tyler? Cheer up. Cheer up.
Speaker 2:OpenAI has declared code red multiple times. Bloomberg is reporting, an executive said this, it's not a code red if you it's code red every day at your company. You know what? Nowhere else it's code red? Right here.
Speaker 3:Code red?
Speaker 2:Code red? Yeah. We heard Yeah. It's code red. Everyone, put on Santa outfits.
Speaker 2:It's code red time. Santa's sack is red. The reindeer, the sleigh, these things are red. He was just getting in the Christmas spirit, guys. It was not anything about the business.
Speaker 2:It was not anything about the shaky ground. The real question that Rachel Metz over at Bloomberg will have to get to the bottom of is, okay. So there's been multiple Code Reds at OpenAI. How many Baja blasts have there been? Because we know that after every Code Red, there is an equal and opposite blah Baja blast that gets the Well,
Speaker 3:what is what is a what does success look like for Code Red? It's a Baja blast.
Speaker 2:It's a Baja blast. Baja blasting your way to the top of the charts, the top of the benchmarks, the top of the fundraising cycle. Sam Altman's decision to declare a code red at OpenAI earlier this month may have caught the industry's attention, but it wasn't the first time that the artificial intelligence company has done a code red. The San Francisco based startup leaderships has made the same decision previously explicitly instructing employees to drop lower priority tasks and concentrate on a single goal. I'm telling you, it's entirely a comms issue.
Speaker 2:There's a phrase for this that doesn't turn into a negative press cycle. It's called a lock in. You just tell everyone.
Speaker 1:It's time the
Speaker 3:great lock in.
Speaker 2:It's time for the great lock in. And if you say OpenAI declares it's time for the great lock in.
Speaker 3:That's exciting. Everyone's are gonna rally around
Speaker 2:that. Everyone is gonna go through the roof and just be like, this is so bullish. This is so bullish. You could be at the top of your game and if you declare a great lock in, everyone's just like, oh, no. It's gonna be even better.
Speaker 3:They're gonna they're gonna go even harder.
Speaker 2:Hot take maybe 2026 is the year of speed. Maybe customers cannot tell the difference between a 120 IQ chatbot, a 130 IQ chatbot, a 140 IQ
Speaker 3:tell the difference? Speed. That's right.
Speaker 2:If they if they have to close the app, come back five minutes later, oh, my deep research report is here. I think the model's plateauing on wowing me with they're already AGI's here.
Speaker 3:In a letter to the White House sent this AM, this was yesterday, OpenAI encourages the federal government government to invest in or contract with initiatives like OpenAI's Stargate to secure compute for public research. The full thing is leverage public private partnerships for supercomputing. We encourage the federal government to co invest your contract with initiatives like OpenAI Stargate to secure dedicated compute for priority public research. I. E.
Speaker 3:Health research, national security. Just as government university partnerships built earlier supercomputers, new models could procure capacity on cutting edge AI systems for use by federally funded researchers. For example, a portion of Stargate's compute might be made available to the National Science Foundation or Department of Energy researchers tackling grand challenges, providing academia access to frontier models without needing to build duplicate infrastructure. What what do you think, John? Because obviously, people are gonna dunk on this But super there there's, you know, people that are just not interested in AI, don't think it's important, don't think
Speaker 2:Show me the big tech company that doesn't wanna work with the government. Yeah. Like, it's a knockout, drag out fight to win project Maven, to win cloud hosting contracts. The government has data right now, and the fight between whether that data is stored on AWS, Oracle, Google, yeah, Azure, like, that is a somewhat of a bidding war, but there are also all sorts of other lobbying efforts to win those contracts. It's the game on the field.
Speaker 2:I I I don't I don't know. I feel like this is not this is not asking for a backstop. This is also not asking for nationalization, although it is, like, somewhat predicted in 2027. It it it feels more like like like an advertisement for a sales product. This feels like an SDR being like, I'm ready to I'm ready to rock.
Speaker 3:Yeah. And I think even for taxpayers, do you want the government spending, like, basically taking on the project themselves to build an end to end supercomputer? And how good would result be versus just saying like we need Yeah. Compute for these projects. OpenAI and all their messaging says we're we're compute constrained and we're compute constrained.
Speaker 3:If we brought on 10 times a compute, we'd use it in a few weeks. We we there's all these things that we can't do because we don't have enough compute. And so to also be messaging the government and saying, hey, we'd like you to invest and buy effectively buy capacity for government researchers from our data centers. Those things are you can you can balance them, but
Speaker 2:It's little hard to do.
Speaker 3:It's a little bit hard to. OpenAI sees 2026 as the year of AI and science, the moment when AI begins unlocking breakthroughs in scientific discovery just as it sped up software development in 2025.
Speaker 2:Mhmm.
Speaker 3:More than seven in 10 Americans believe we need new innovations and solutions to challenges in scientific and medical research. And they kind of go on kind of setting up setting up the the kind of ask.
Speaker 2:It feels like a crucible moment for science in that science was effectively successfully done at a private corporation. And if that's the trend, then what is the government's role? What is the university's role? Maybe it should just be a race between Google and OpenAI to actually cure cancer and obviously the other pharmaceutical companies and all sorts of health companies. Why are laughing?
Speaker 3:I'm laughing because Brandon Jacoby texted me and said, listening to the show while working out, the sheep sound almost made me drop a dumbbell on my head from laughing. It's a goat sound, It's a sound. It's
Speaker 2:It's a goat sound.
Speaker 3:Obviously, it's a goat sound. I use that when someone is showing greatest of all time sort of behavior or general excellence.
Speaker 2:Charlemagne signed a five year deal, $200,000,000 extension with iHeartMedia locking him in with the company after it struck a deal with Netflix to stream The Breakfast Club.
Speaker 3:Interesting. Forbes is writing a Wait. So story here. IHeartMedia is paying Charlemagne 200.
Speaker 2:They say, hey, iHeartMedia, we have a deal with Netflix. We can't lose Charlemagne because The Breakfast Club has already been sold to Netflix. We gotta have Charlemagne host it because he's the talent. Very cool. The article in how Charlemagne became a media god.
Speaker 2:I love it because, of course, he's Charlemagne the god. On a chilly night November radio personality, Charlemagne the god is roaming through the aisles of Midtown Comics in New York City, captivated by the heroes and villains that shaped his childhood escapism at the highest level. He says, everybody's here for a purpose. Dressed in a black peacoat, a white hoodie, black jeans, and tan Timberland boots. This isn't the media vigilante that listeners of The Breakfast Club have come to expect over the past fifteen years.
Speaker 2:The 47 year old comic book nerd leafing through original graphic novels of Batman, Superman, Wolverine, and one of his favorites, Luke Cage, is more subdued and introspective as he considers his public and private personas. So congratulations to Charlemagne. There's a robot that is solving Rubik's cubes in point one seconds. That is so fast. Look at this.
Speaker 2:Look at this. You can't even oh, it's in the slow mo cam. Okay. Watch this. And it's off.
Speaker 2:It's so crazy.
Speaker 3:That's insane.
Speaker 2:Think about that. Look at this. This is a super, super slow mo view. Super slow mo view. Super super duper slow.
Speaker 3:Point
Speaker 2:this is so fast. Wow. It's really doing it. I can do a Rubik's cube in around one minute. Can you do one?
Speaker 2:How fast can you do it? Let's cut to Tyler.
Speaker 1:My best ever when when I was like
Speaker 2:You can do it?
Speaker 1:Twelve, was it was like twenty seconds.
Speaker 2:Twenty seconds? Yeah.
Speaker 3:You were a speed cube
Speaker 1:nerd alert. Nerd alert. Nerd You'd
Speaker 3:the no look. The yeah.
Speaker 2:Oh, yeah. He's got it. He's got it. He's got it.
Speaker 3:I used be much better.
Speaker 1:I used to be much better.
Speaker 2:Did you wanna talk about watches, Jordy?
Speaker 3:I did. I did not know that Osama Bin Laden was a Casio guy. A Casio guy. Couldn't Apparently, Base
Speaker 2:Couldn't get the RM.
Speaker 3:Base has a has a watch as well.
Speaker 2:Watch drop is cool. I like a watch drop.
Speaker 3:We like a watch drop. And would you like to seize cartel assets as a privateer?
Speaker 2:This is a big opportunity
Speaker 3:for would allow the president to issue you a letter of mark, time to take these pirates down. We did talk about Did we create this? We we we did say at the beginning of the year, we were highlighting the reward for Maduro Yes. Very early before this whole Venezuela saga really kicked off.
Speaker 2:It definitely ramped up from the time we talked about the fact that the State Department was interested in him bring bringing him in for questioning.
Speaker 3:Did you see this game on record? No. It's a body cam first person shoot.
Speaker 2:Wait a minute. I believe this is not AI generated video. This is just incredible Unreal Engine footage. This looks so real. I don't believe it's crazy, but I think this is actually real.
Speaker 2:Now I I believe I thought this game went into, beta, and I thought people were playing this. And I believe that even though it's remarkably realistic, looks so real, it's it's like you look at that and you're like, oh, this looks like the best game ever. This looks way better than Call of Duty. In fact, the modern gamer and really you or me, like, you don't actually want this level of realism because it makes the game really hard. It makes the game, like, a lot less fun.
Speaker 2:Like some people do. They want great mechanics, and then they're willing to suspend belief and say, hey, I'm going to play something that's a little cartoony as long as the mechanics work.
Speaker 3:Jira tickets was reacting to OpenAI now aiming to raise $100,000,000,000 at an $830,000,000,000 valuation. And JT says, wow, new number just dropped. Congrats on the new number. Looks like it's bigger than the old number. That's good.
Speaker 3:Can't wait to see the next number. I love the number business.
Speaker 2:That's really true.
Speaker 3:Good bit. Reality is life is a number business. It's all about make it go up forever. This is a good way to I would say wrap the year. Shrek hits a timeline to say some important words.
Speaker 3:Check yourself before you Shrek yourself.
Speaker 2:You were just laughing about you were just laughing to yourself before the show and I asked you, what were you reading? And you said, well, Shrek said, check yourself before you Shrek yourself. It's been a fantastic year, everyone. Thank you so much for all the support. Thank you for watching TBPN and engaging with us in in in all different ways.
Speaker 2:We really appreciate you and hope you have a fantastic holiday season. Merry Christmas. Happy New Year. We will see you in 2026.
Speaker 3:I can't believe I can't believe this is this is the last show of the year.
Speaker 2:Last show of
Speaker 3:the What a year. Wow. Thank you, everyone. Totally surreal.
Speaker 1:Surreal.
Speaker 3:And it's an honor it's an honor to to build this show That's with the team and with all of you in the audience.
Speaker 2:Gabe says one last gong.
Speaker 3:One last gong. One gong. Last gong for 2025.
Speaker 2:Even though he won.
Speaker 3:What a year. You pull up your pants. He's got sweats on underneath. Don't worry. One last gong.
Speaker 1:Merry Christmas. Happy New Year. Merry Christmas.
Speaker 3:And we will see you folks. We love you. Goodbye. Have a fantastic New Year's and all those holidays. Bye.