Clydesdale Media Podcast

Every Day we take a breath and a break from our busy workday to hangout with friends and talk about the world of Sports, Entertainment and specifically CrossFit.  Today we talk about the Haboob in Mesa, also the WFP there.  The list of Withdraws from the Event.  Heard a wild rumor about unlimited money and exclusivity, what does that mean.  Holli Duggan is a Rock Star, plus what are the top 5 places to watch a CrossFit Event? 
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We cover the sport of CrossFit from all angles. We talk with athletes, coaches and celebrities that compete and surround in the sport of CrossFit at all levels. We also bring you Breaking News, Human Interest Stories and report on the Methodology of CrossFit. We also use the methodology to make ourselves the fittest we can be.

what's going on everybody

welcome to lunch with the

Clydesdale we were having a

heck of a day with

technology but I am now on a new

area whatever trying to

figure this thing out um

stream yard tried to launch

it didn't it did then it

shut off and now we're over

here on a different feed

hopefully everybody finds

me um I know it's already

going to be wild because um

Rich Froning's on another

channel right now.

So I'm sure that is going to

take a lot of eyes.

But we're going to have some

fun here for forty five

minutes and maybe people

can catch up later.

So.

With all the technical stuff,

let's go with a simple dart toss.

And better, but not good enough.

All right.

So what's going on, guys?

What's going on?

Yesterday,

I had a lot of trainings to do at.

Work,

got those knocked out yesterday

afternoon.

Much better day today.

Now just trying to cruise

through and having these

weird internet issues today.

Andrew Sten, hola, back to normal life.

It'll take a few days for my

legs to recover after

averaging twenty K steps a day last week.

You were killing it, man.

I saw you everywhere at the

age group games.

Ah, hey,

but it's lunchtime with Clydesdale

loyalty.

There you go, Jay Birch.

you picked me over the goat

I've been flattered very

flattered um so yeah a lot

of you found the new feed

thank you uh for jumping

over here what's up jess um

meredith amanda I know

trent olive was over on the

other one hopefully he finds us over here

Um,

that's the only person I saw before

that the feed died.

But, um, anyway, fun stuff,

cut down day in the NFL,

watching my phone anxiously

to see who's going to get cut.

Um, it's exciting day.

Some people are going to

make their first NFL squads.

Some people are not.

Um, and that's a crazy day.

So also been fighting with

insurance today.

Aren't we to a point where

we need to like stop

fighting for insurance?

Like it used to be your

doctor would prescribe a medicine.

It would go through insurance.

They said yes or no.

And it's done.

No, I get an,

I am having this asthma issue.

I have a second inhaler,

which I have not had in about a month.

And I finally get a prescription.

It goes to the pharmacy.

It gets blocked because

there has to be a prior

authorization from the doctor.

But the doctor is the one

who prescribed it.

Why can I not understand?

I don't get it.

Why do I have to do all this

legwork to get my prescription?

That never used to be the case.

Now it's...

I got to do the legwork and

do your job for you.

And finally,

I think today it finally got approved.

Now I just got to wait for

it to get filled.

But good gravy.

Then you suffer for a week

in high allergy time.

It's just, God, so over it.

Shanna, some parts of medicine is broken.

I know, man.

I know.

I can't with insurance companies.

It took us three years for

my wife to get double knee

replacement approved.

Oh, my gosh.

It's just crazy.

Realizing I need to find a

way to have a career doing

CrossFit and not having a real job.

Yeah.

Yeah.

We talked last year, right, Brett,

that no matter what you did

at the CrossFit Games,

you come home and your boss

still has emails he wants answered.

There you are.

Having to wait a week when

it comes to asthma

situation is dangerous.

It felt dangerous a couple times,

but I think I've pushed through.

Hopefully,

hopefully we get some answers soon.

And yes, they do suck so much.

All right, before we get into too much,

I wanted to give a huge

shout out to Holly Dugan.

If you were watching the

Instagram this week,

she put out leaderboards for every event,

for every division at the

age group CrossFit Games.

And the reason she does that

is we want to give you guys

who are athletes, if you finish top five,

a way to share that with

your family and your friends.

It's in a nice,

pretty fashion and not like

just trying to like screen

grab a leaderboard or something.

Um,

and she absolutely kills it

every big competition she

put out leaderboards she

put out overall

leaderboards at the end of

the weekend she put out

overall leaderboards every

evening going into the next

day and the best thing she did was

consolidated the schedule

into a way that makes sense

so many people come up to

me and say they use her

schedule because it's

easier to read than what's

on competition corner or

what's been supplied by the

event she takes that and

puts it all into like a

neat little instagram post

and it has the men on one

screen the women on another

for event one then the men

and the women for event two

and so on and so forth

that was how I got around

all weekend to know who was up when.

And so I just want to give her all the,

all the do that she deserves.

And if you are running a competition,

you need to reach out to

this girl and hire her.

Like if you're running a

competition and you want

stuff to give to the athletes to share,

to make things easier,

she is the person to do that.

Like hire her, give her the logos to use,

have her make up those

shots and just send them

out all day long.

That girl needs hired by

competitions to do that.

Nobody does it better than her.

Period.

End of story.

And we are lucky, lucky to have her.

The next thing is I'm diving

back into the Hattie episode two,

starting to work on that

while playing around a

little bit with my stuff

from the age group games.

But I've got to get the Hattie one done.

first and then move into the

age group stuff but that

stuff will be coming out

over the next couple weeks

so look for that and I also

did release another members

only a raw and uncut

interview with caroline

klutz uh the winner of the

thirty five to thirty nine

and I think I'm gonna

release one more of those

and then save the rest for

the project that we're

working on to compile everything

So if you are a member,

go check out Caroline Klutz.

It was released late last night.

And I'm going to put one

more out probably today,

and then we'll end that for now.

And yeah, so there's that.

Big news, WFP is happening this week.

And I don't know if you guys

saw it's happening in the

Mesa Phoenix areas, Arizona area.

And did you see what rolled

in there yesterday?

The wall of dust.

Can you believe this?

Like it lasted, I guess,

like if you were in it, it was about.

Fifteen minutes long.

They talked to a woman who

was in a car and it kind of

like rolled over her.

She said it lasted about

fifteen minutes long,

shook the car the entire

time that like people in their homes,

the dust got in every crack and crevice.

But this happened on Monday,

and that's where the WFP is

going to happen this weekend.

So.

I guess it's like an unnaturally dry.

time in arizona right now

and this is like a front

coming in and somehow picks

up all the dust and moves

it forward and it's called

a haboob and uh yeah wow

crazy like that is like

biblical type stuff right

there I cannot believe

I think will morad was

driving in I think on his

instagram he actually

posted a picture of them

driving into it uh to get

to the venue uh yesterday

so uh crazy stuff man crazy

stuff uh that hubbub was

jazzed it was it had all

the jazz to it all the jazz

So anyway, other news from that,

Haley Adams announced her

withdrawal from the WFP.

So that now takes us down to

where Haley Adams has withdrawn,

Jeff Adler has withdrawn, Alex Kazan,

Emma McQuaid, and Bethany Flores.

So five of the athletes have

withdrawn at this point.

And they've all been backfilled already.

I think this is something

that we're probably going

to see more of in the busier times,

especially with this busy offseason.

You have Rogue, you have Wadapalooza SoCal,

and then you have

Copenhagen for the finals of the WFP.

And I think this could be a

trend more than just a one-off.

But who knows?

I could be all wrong.

I also heard a wild,

wild rumor this weekend at

the age group games.

I don't have confirmation on this.

So again, wild rumor.

I'm stating that over and over again.

Wild,

wild rumor that the WFP is going to

go exclusive next year.

And they are upping the

amount of money they are

offering the athletes to

pull as many of them away

from the CrossFit season as possible.

And that we could be left with two tracks.

People who stayed, people who left.

The people who left will be in the WFP.

People who stayed will be in CrossFit.

And you'll have two separate

tracks rolling down at the same time.

And the money from what I

understand is very substantial.

Um, possibly in the six figures.

And if you're offered that, that, I mean,

that is crazy.

I mean,

guaranteed six figures or take a

chance at maybe six figures.

Um,

it is insane now again wild

rumor no idea if this is

true no idea if this is

true but that is what I'm

hearing and you have it

exactly right john live

versus pga it is very much

that emeritus how much

money do these people have

that they can just throw it

around willy-nilly they

have that kind of money

So the people that you have met,

like Jackson and the board

with Will Morad and all of that,

it's not necessarily their money.

It's the parents' money.

And the parents have stupid money.

Stupid money.

So I don't know.

I don't know.

As a parent,

you want to do everything you

can for your kid, right?

Everything you can for your kid.

And I could see a parent

wanting their kid to be

successful and putting,

if they have that kind of money,

putting whatever they want

wanted at them to make them successful.

they must really want to

stick it to CrossFit.

If it's true, again,

I have no confirmation on this.

I just, it is something that I have heard,

but I cannot get

confirmation on it from anybody reliable.

So if that happens, it's going to be wild.

And I've talked to people

who say if the money's good enough, like,

and it can support them,

they're probably going to

go for the money.

To be able to do what they

love and get supported to do it,

they're probably going to

take... It's just like Liv and the PGA.

Some people took the money.

Some people decided to rest

on the morals of what they believed in.

And Liv had some other things to it,

right?

That money came from a culture that...

they call it blood money I

mean it is um they called

the the moving that into

sport whitewashing what

they had done it it's a

crazy if you have not

looked into the live thing

we don't have that with wfp

and they're not trying to

whitewash anything they're

trying to um just spend money

Meredith says,

it makes me think that

someone in the organization

really has a beef with

someone in CrossFit to want

to stick it to them so badly.

It's also a parent wanting

their kid to be successful

and giving them as much

money as they need to do that.

I think that has a lot of

power to it that if you're not a parent,

you don't understand.

If you are a parent,

you do have an understanding of that.

The WFP doesn't have any revenue streams.

That's the problem.

They're not paying for this

with revenue streams, though.

They're paying for this with

their other businesses that

they've made a billion

dollars in and that they

have this spare change

laying around that they can

help their kids be successful.

So...

And I don't know,

I've not seen their checking account.

I don't know how much stupid

money they have.

I've just heard from a lot

of people that it is stupid,

stupid money that they can

just kind of throw this

money to their kids to help

them be successful.

I think the idea is that

they keep it running long

enough where people leave

CrossFit and come to their organization.

Then the revenue streams

will follow after.

The people running the WFP

are the kids of very wealthy people.

jay birch so jackson terry

is a kid him and his wife

they are the children of

very very successful people

with a lot a lot of money

and I don't think they care

about revenue streams right

now but I also think that

they've made a lot of mistakes

And this is not the time to

try to throw your weight

around because I'm not

saying it's the right

choice to all you guys

arguing with this point.

I'm not supporting what they're doing.

I don't necessarily think

it's the best avenue to go.

I just know that I'm just

hearing it's happening.

I don't think it's the best way to go.

I don't think it's the best

way to build a business.

I've said that several times on here.

I'm just telling you what

I'm hearing from some of

the people are very close

to the situation.

Yeah, they are doubling down.

They're doubling down to try

to build interest.

If they can be the only

people with X number of

athletes and they're the top athletes,

they think that that will

then turn into an

exclusivity that makes

people want to watch them.

But I am a casual golf fan.

I have never watched a live

event in my life.

I watched the masters and I

watched the British open

and I watched the U S open.

If I watch golf at all in a season,

but they're just doubling down,

trying this thing.

And I'm not,

I'm not judging their success.

I'm telling you what they're

thinking of trying to do.

I, at the end of the day,

I think that we as a

CrossFit community and

culture will watch the

CrossFit game season

regardless of the athletes

that are in it.

It's been around too long

for us that do this every day.

If athletes have to choose,

I think the WFP will lose.

They will get has-beens and

the ones on their way out

of CrossFit already,

along with a select few who

exited because of Lazar.

I think you're wrong.

I think if you go back and

watch what happened with Liv and the PGA,

that's what people thought there.

And then they got,

was it Bryson DeChambeau and...

couple of the big hitters

and then it made it okay

for others to go if it's

six figures there is

nothing in the crossfit

game season other than

rogue and the games and the

games only the only six

figure the the game's only

six figure uh payout is the

winner everything below

that now is like sixty grand and less

And if you're guaranteed six figures, man,

that's, and I'm supporting a family.

I don't know.

It would, it'd be hard.

Trent Olive,

I think the athletes that are

looking to make money from

sport will continue into WFP.

I think if it's stupid money

and you don't have that

opportunity anywhere else, why not?

I don't know.

If you watch Full Swing on Netflix,

Rory McIlroy fought off Liv.

stood up against Liv.

Then, a year after he did all that,

he got hosed by the PGA

when they said they're

going to merge with Liv.

Now, that merger still hasn't happened,

but gosh,

he put his reputation on the

line for all of this stuff,

and then right after the fact,

they go ahead and merge?

It's crazy.

It's just... There are parallels there,

and...

I don't know.

We'll see.

We'll see what happens.

I won't ever pay to attend the WFP event,

yet I've paid to go to the

games ten times.

I don't disagree with you.

Again,

I'm only reporting what I think is

happening.

I think that it proved this

year that a good chunk of

people will continue to watch CrossFit,

to go to CrossFit,

as long as they put together

a season that makes sense

and gets us from point A to

point B to find the fittest on earth,

regardless of who those athletes are.

But we have ownership in limbo.

We have no guarantee what

the season's going to look

like next year.

If you're going to try to double down,

it's probably the year to do it.

but you better have deep

pockets to even take a shot at it.

Take CrossFit out of it.

You're being offered

essentially the exact same job,

but you're guaranteed more money.

Americans every day leave

their jobs for more money,

go to the other company for more money.

To not expect the athletes

to do the same is, I think, naive.

I think john again I think

he says I think they need

to figure out how to get

people to their event I

think that is not their

primary concern I think

their primary concern are

to get eyeballs on their

sport and they're trying

everything they can do to

do that even the highest

elite athletes in the sport

doesn't guarantee people

are going to attend that's

what we learned from their last event

Right,

but if it becomes exclusive and it's

the only place you can see them,

we haven't seen that tested yet.

That's what they're going to

test next year.

If Jason Hopper signs with

them or Dallin Pepper signs with them,

Alex Kazan signs with them,

and that's the only place

you can see them,

then we'll see a true test.

And they're doubling it down

to see what will happen

when that happens.

And again, this is a rumor.

We're talking a lot about a rumor.

I don't know that this is to be true.

So, I did watch your latest video,

The Unbreakable,

with Emma Lawson and Jack Farlow.

Uh, and I think that it was okay.

It was okay.

Um,

I thought it was better than some of

their others.

It seems the ones that buttery bros do.

And then when they get into

more conversational pieces, it gets,

it takes a little bit of an uptick.

Um,

Cause I just don't want to

see people work out anymore.

I've seen that enough.

Um, I thought,

I think Jack Farlow is going

to be a star.

Uh, he is really dry, funny, really,

really enjoyed him a lot.

Um,

Emma,

I thought her talking about the back

injury and how, uh,

taking some time off this

season and just doing WFP

actually helped her.

That also is another thing

that helps them in their

recruitment of athletes.

Um,

it gave her time to kind of get

everything back in place, uh,

and heal the right way.

So that was interesting.

Uh, all in all, I probably give it a B,

um,

but nothing earth-shattering,

nothing I haven't seen before,

but better than some of

their other... I did want

to address something yesterday.

We talked about how the

Dreamers are forced to pay...

for their dream in the

crossfit game season

especially the age group

athletes are charged every

step of the way and then

their families are forced

to pay these large ticket

prices to get in the door

and I got a comment saying

that if you're doing local

comps you still have to pay

and I get that and I and I guess

My thing was that wasn't my point.

My point was that CrossFit

only looks at a linear revenue path.

And I wish they would look

outside that linear revenue

path because people like

John and Hurt Athletics,

if you get people in the

door to where they want to

come buy some stuff,

That helps the vendors get

excited about being there.

The more vendors that are there,

the more people will want to come shop.

The more people want to come shop,

the more vendors we add on to that.

And then we actually have something,

an ecosystem at these

events that actually starts

paying for things outside

of just a flat revenue source.

That's what I was saying.

We need to look at more

creative ways to get people in the door.

Like,

Wadapalooza has their free day Thursdays,

and they have the biggest

vendor village of any

competition I've ever been to.

That works.

You get butts in the seats.

And Wadapalooza's biggest

problem is not having enough seating,

right?

And that is a great problem to have.

Most competitions don't have that problem.

But they do.

It helps that they're in Miami in January.

Now that they're moving to

March or whatever it is,

I hope that they still have that draw.

But that...

Just to address that one

comment that we got back,

that was my point,

not about that I don't

think people should pay their way.

It's that we need to look at

other revenue sources.

Well, that's just creative marketing.

They throw a fitness festival.

That's my point.

That's my point.

make it bigger than just

coming to watch people work

out and then vendors come

and then people will come

and then ticket prices can

be lowered and and then it

becomes like a big festival

and everybody hanging out

that's what you want

And we keep eliminating the

festival aspects of all of

these events that CrossFit holds.

And because of that,

we're diminishing the crowds we are...

Like when we were in Madison

and there was a campground

and there was outdoor

events with a cheap

festival ticket that you

could come hang out with

your buddies watching on a

big screen in a beer garden

or out at the outdoor

events or go camping at the RV,

all of those things,

those were butts in the vendor village.

All of that goes to like

help with the funding of

everything that goes on.

Yes, Amy.

CrossFit events are so much

more fun when there's a

festival atmosphere.

Right.

We've got to find a way to

bring that back.

Not just the games,

but also with the age group

CrossFit games and other events around.

Even...

Even Rogue doesn't have that

for a vendor village.

So we're running late.

I wanted to do a top five

events that I like to

appear in person and go to,

and I'm going to count them down.

My honorable mention for this is Rogue.

When Rogue was in Columbus,

it was one of my favorite

events to ever attend.

Then Rogue went to Round Rock in Texas,

and it was boxed into a

baseball stadium with no festival feel.

So it just became an

honorable mention for me on this.

And now I've not been to Scotland for it.

I don't know what they're

doing over there.

It seems to be cool.

I've heard good things,

but I haven't seen it for

myself to be able to move

it back into the top five.

Number five for me on the list is Legends.

Legends in Arizona is a

great place to watch a CrossFit event.

Two moving floors,

lots of cool places to

watch the events from.

outdoor olympic swimming

pool where you have a

swimming event right

outside the door and

everything is contained

closely so you can kind of

get to everything and there

are tents and booths

everywhere around all the

floors great place to go

hang out it's on arizona

state campus lots of fun

Number four, Guadalupalooza, Miami.

Guadalupalooza,

Miami is a great place to go.

I used to call it the

CrossFit family reunion.

When you go there,

you seem to see everybody

you've met in the space over the years.

Lots of vendors,

lots of shopping you can do.

three moving floors again

moving around to different

locales right on the water

january in in florida is

way better than january in

ohio um it's a fun place to

get to my only drawback to

to water palooza miami is

it is a lot of stimulation

in a short amount of time

and sometimes it's just

good to go back to the

airbnb or the hotel and

just decompress for a little bit

Cause it's a lot of music, a lot of, um,

a lot of interaction with

people and a lot in a short

amount of time.

Yes, I know now it's in March,

but I'm basing this on where I've been.

So maybe it'll move off the

list in the future.

Number three is the CrossFit games.

Um,

It's always been down at

about the number three spot for me.

I know it's the pinnacle of the sport,

but it's the least kind of

like fun place to be to watch the sport.

Now, Madison was better than Albany,

which was better than Fort Worth.

But I...

You have no access to athletes.

You have no access to coaches, really.

It's very tightly secured.

Things are just a little bit different.

It's a little more edgy.

Everybody's on edge, I should say.

And even though I had a

great time there this year,

it only comes up to number

three on my list.

Number two for me.

would be the syndicate crown

or us semifinals.

Cause I've not been to the European ones.

I can see they're great on, on the stream,

but the semifinals are more

fun to me than the games.

People were fighting for a

position at the CrossFit games, uh,

Everybody is, is accessible.

You can talk to people.

Um,

and syndicate crown does it really well.

Like this year they added the, um,

John young and the heavy

Isabel to the race.

They did a kill Taylor lat

the year before they had an

outdoor competition on the, um,

like the walk up to the venue.

There was an outdoor

competition going on out

there with a pretty big

vendor village and a lot of

people just hanging out,

having a good time.

Syndicate Crown is a blast.

If you've ever...

not gone to a competition

live and you want to do it

in a more affordable

fashion I tell you go to

semifinals I had people

come up to me there say

that they heard me say that

before and they were so

glad that I told them they

had way more fun at semis

than they did at the games

and my number one place to

go see a crossfit

competition is the age

group crossfit games

It is the best community.

It is the most pleasant community.

You can hang out with everybody.

And when it was here in Columbus,

I got to sleep in my own

bed and you walk out the

door of the venue.

There are five hundred plus

restaurants to just walk to.

It was the best placed event

that I have seen in my time in CrossFit.

And I'm not just saying that

because I live in Columbus.

But it literally was right

in the hub of all the cool

stuff we have here in town.

You walk out the door and in

walking distance,

five hundred restaurants.

I kid you not.

It was so much fun and the

athletes are just hanging out.

And you can walk up to them,

and they're willing to take pictures.

They're willing to sign autographs.

They're willing to just sit and talk.

You can approach Boz.

You can approach Dave.

You can approach people that

you would never have that

opportunity to at other events.

It is really,

really a fun and good time at

the H Group CrossFit Games.

And this year, every floor was packed.

Every floor was packed.

I think their biggest issue,

if they hold it here next year,

is to get more stands

around every floor because

it was jam-packed on every

floor for every event.

And that was fun to see.

I looked at some pictures

today from Rudy Berger when

they was at Madison and how

little the crowds were in

the stands at the Coliseum

when the Masters were on the floor.

There were way more people

in Columbus for this than

there were at that CrossFit

Games in Madison.

So cool to see.

First time being at the Cross...

CrossFit Games, age group,

it was an awesome experience.

What I loved is all the support family,

friends showed to them over the weekend.

Brett Owsley, competitor at the Games,

really enjoyed Columbus.

Great location, great food.

Zoo, museum,

kept the family entertained

while I rested.

See, we have it all.

We have it all.

And as long as you don't stay in the hood,

you're good to go.

And Rogue is five minutes down the street.

five minutes down the street.

Um,

so if you have the wrong clips for your

axle bars,

if you really wanted to keep them,

you could go buy some new clips.

Just saying.

So with that, that's been the fun thing.

I have a very,

very funny story from this last weekend.

Um,

I told you guys that I am

the most awkwardly social

podcaster in the space in

this um and this story is

going to prove that to you

in a big way but I want to

wait until corey is on with

me tomorrow uh so I can

tell the story to him you

guys can listen in and uh

yeah it's gonna be a good

one really really good one

Andrew Sten,

I'm really surprised Rogue

didn't have a presence at the event.

Me too.

Even if it was just a small signage to say,

hey, go down Fifth Street or Fifth Avenue,

and we're down the street five minutes,

and come check out our showroom.

Just something as simple as that.

All the equipment was Rogue.

Just a sign to say, hey,

come visit us at our

location on Fifth Avenue.

So,

but I have other thoughts on Rogue as

well that I'll have to keep to myself.

Okay.

Yeah.

Yeah, I was shocked.

Yeah, me too.

I thought they would have a

booth there for sure.

But why make a booth when

you're just down the street, though?

You know?

I mean, their showroom is massive.

Just go down there and check it out.

Well, with that, guys,

I have to get back to work.

Time for you knuckleheads to

get back to work as well.

We will see everybody

tomorrow for my funny story

about how I'm socially awkward.

We'll see everybody tomorrow, guys.

Back to work.

I'm out of here.