The Good Pod

The Good Wife Season 5 wraps up with its finale, "A Weird Year," and Jason and Marissa cover a lot of ground. The $6 million adoption lawsuit against Alicia resurfaces, forcing a chaotic teleconference between Florrick/Agos and Lockhart Gardner. Howard becomes the deciding vote in a firm power struggle, Finn's political campaign implodes over a family scandal, and Zach heads off to his summer job with an emotional (if awkward) goodbye. The real fireworks come when Diane, fed up with Louis Canning's scheming, makes a bold move that could reshape both firms heading into Season 6. Kalinda and Cary's relationship hits a rocky patch, Peter and Alicia's marriage keeps unraveling, and Eli ends the season with a question that changes everything. It's messy, dense, and sets up a wild new chapter.

00:05 – The $6 million adoption lawsuit against Alicia resurfaces via chaotic teleconference
00:10 – Finn's campaign implodes over a family scandal, and Eli scrambles to contain the fallout
00:31 – Howard gets grilled in a deposition, tribal council mix-ups and all
01:03 – Diane makes her move against Louis Canning and the Lockhart Gardner power struggle
01:05 – Diane asks Florrick/Agos to take her and her $38 million in client business
01:10 – Zach says goodbye, and Eli drops a season-ending bombshell of a question

Enjoyed the episode? Hit subscribe so you never miss a recap! If you love what we're doing, leave us a rating and review — it really helps the show grow. Want to support The Good Pod directly? Buy us a coffee at https://buymeacoffee.com/goodpod — every cup keeps the recaps coming. Thanks for listening!

Creators and Guests

Host
Jason Reed
I’m a simple guy with simple interests. Pop Culture, Tv, Movies, Comics. Constantly chasing that nostalgia dragon. Podcaster talking Married At First Sight on A Perfect Match and The Good Wife verse on The Good Pod.
Host
Marissa Garza
MTv never told me the Real World would be like this // podcaster, consultant, and tv watcher

What is The Good Pod?

Rewatching The Good Wife? Start anywhere. We've recapped every episode in order since the pilot — 166 and counting.

Jason Reed and Marissa Garza work through the entire Robert and Michelle King universe: The Good Wife, Elsbeth, and The Good Fight. One episode at a time, in order, no skipping. The cases, the firm implosions, the Alicia and Diane of it all — plus the details you missed the first time and the ones you only catch on a rewatch.

Alicia Florrick, Diane Lockhart, Kalinda Sharma, Eli Gold, Will Gardner, Elsbeth Tascioni. If you have opinions about any of them, you're in the right place.

New episodes every Monday. Elsbeth recaps every week the show is airing.

Also from us: The Gilded Pod, covering HBO's The Gilded Age — separate feed, same hosts.

Support the show: buymeacoffee.com/goodpod

Welcome to The Good Pod, where today
we're talking The Good Wife, season

five, episode 22, A Weird Year.

It was a very weird year.

Do, do, do, do, do, do.

I'm your host Jason Reed.

With me, as always, Marissa Garza.

Marissa, you good?

I'm good, Jason.

Are you good?

I'm great.

You know, I'm- Oh, great … this
season, season finale vibes.

Yeah, we're here.

We're at the end of an era, and, you
know, it's just, uh, uh… Oh, @Marissa,

can you just give me one second?

I, I just gotta take this,
and I'll be right back, okay?

Okay.

Okay, okay, okay.

Yeah, so let's- Yeah … just,
just chill out for a minute.

I'll be right back.

Uh, just look forward- This,
like- This doesn't need-

never happened.

It never happened … yeah, this
is supposed to be in the podcast.

Or- Yeah, this is, it's fine.

Oh.

Oh, okay.

So do you want me to,
like, do anything or?

No, no, I mean, yeah, I mean,
we can probably just edit this

out, but I'll just be gone for-
Okay … like, a minute, just a minute.

Okay.

Okay?

All right.

Okay.

I'll be right back.

I'm gonna pause, I'm gonna mute.

I'm gonna go off cam.

I'll be right back.

Yeah, yeah.

Okay?

Okay, okay, okay

All right.

Hey, hey.

Asia?

Hey.

Oh, huge.

Yeah.

Oh, oh, you, you want to come…
You, you want to be the good,

the host of the Good Pod now?

Uh, yeah, I mean, yeah.

I can… No, it's not,
it's not a problem at all.

It's, it's the call I've been waiting for.

Um, yeah, no, it's not gonna be a problem
at all to get her out of the, the co-host

chair, like not even a little bit.

She'll, she won't even see it coming.

It'll be fine.

I'll just, I, you know, I'll
probably just- No, I think-

I'll probably just ghost her.

I got all the passwords,
I got everything we need.

I'll just ghost her.

She can do some podcast about
like, like pens or something.

She can- I can't just ghost
her … she can do something else.

I, she, I'm sure she'd love to do
some stationary type of podcast.

She, she'll be fine.

She'll be okay.

Um, yeah, no.

Asia, come save me.

So- Asia, save me … so you can, you
can only- Asia, come save me … you

can only do, you, you gotta come in
like a few episodes into season six.

How long is this phone call, Jason?

Okay.

Okay.

Um, well, yeah, n- no, I'll just let
her think everything's fine until

then, and then we'll just… When
you need, when you come jump on,

I'll just change all the passwords.

She'll be gone.

She can't get back into the
podcast, and we'll be good.

Okay?

All right, great.

Can't, can't wait for
it, can't wait to start.

All right, cool.

All right, bye.

Hey, Marissa, I'm back.

Welcome back.

Yeah.

Welcome back.

Um, I heard every single word of
that, and I don't know if Asia-

Oh … knows you're, she's being
used as a pawn in your schemes.

Every single word of what?

Every single word of what?

What are you talking about?

What?

Yeah.

Let me just also show, uh, the
YouTube viewers that, um, because

of this, Jason's views are not
representative of this podcast.

Just FYI.

I, y- Ma- Marissa, you know what?

Gotcha.

I got you.

That was just, that was just,
that was a, that was a joke.

That was like, yeah,
that was for the podcast.

Oh, okay.

Okay.

I'll- Yeah … let's just, uh, you,
you wouldn't mind if, like, I called

Asia to just- I mean- … like
to, like, let her know, right?

I don't, I don't, yeah.

Like, that would be cool, right?

I don't think you're gonna, I
don't think you need to do that.

I don't think you do that.

She wouldn't have any idea
what you're talking about.

You, yeah, I don't … No.

You don't need to do that at all.

Mm-mm.

Mm-mm.

I don't, I don't think it
would get you anything.

But yeah.

Mm-hmm.

Oh, no, just a joke, Marissa.

You're, we're all good.

Oh.

We're good.

Jason, Jason, Jason.

Me and you.

Your, your time is coming.

We've got many a seasons.

What?

I'm playing a long game.

A long game.

Yeah.

Uh, me and you.

Good pod forever.

This whole thing.

We're good.

Okay.

Great.

All right.

Just- Well, then I won't worry about it,
and I won't- Yeah, don't worry about it

have control over whether you
are in the podcast or not.

Like, I just, I won't have
any control over that.

I won't have any control over the edit.

I won't have any, any of that.

So, um- Mm-hmm … we'll see.

Yeah.

As you take me-

We'll see how that goes … as you
take me in and out of the podcast

and move me around the podcast, you-
Yeah, just like- I get it, Marissa.

I get it.

Yeah.

You, you have, you have the,
the powers on this, on this pod.

You, I get it.

I understand.

But it was just a joke, Marissa.

It was a joke.

Relax.

Just relax.

Uh, let me just- Ah … I have
to just make one text real quick,

real quick Do not pick up- This
is like a whole soap opera in his

mind … do not pick up the phone if-

Marissa calls you.

Okay, cool.

Cool, cool, cool.

Cool, great.

Anyway.

And you can tell people
how they can support.

Yeah.

We're here at a season finale of
season five, going into season six.

Can't wait.

Want to remind you of some
free and easy ways you out

there can support this podcast.

Uh, you can do that by rating,
reviewing, subscribing, wherever it

is you're listening and/or watching.

You can also do that.

You can do subscribe to the
podcast on YouTube, we'd love that.

Uh, even if you don't watch on
YouTube, just having us subscribed

from you would do a lot for this
podcast, so please do that if you can.

Uh, thumbs up the podcast
wherever you're listening.

Give us a five-star
review on Apple Podcast.

We love all that stuff.

Um, also if you just wanna talk to
us about the show, uh, you can hit us

up at thegoodpodfeedback@gmail.com.

And if you wanna help us out
monetarily, you can also do that

over at buymeacoffee.com/thegoodpod.

Uh, yeah, so with that out of the way,
Marissa, let's, uh, let's get into

this very, uh, wheel-turny, very…

Uh, and this wa- this was an interesting
finale because a- like, as I put on

my board up here, the gang's all here.

Everybody's here.

Everyone's here.

Everybody's here.

Everyone's that've been
missing for a while.

We got Robin here.

We got Zeph's here.

We've got Julius here.

Everyone is here.

There was, like, and it was
interestingly, like, very, not, no

guest stars really on this episode.

I mean, they didn't have any
more room on the screen, I think.

I mean- Yeah … every- everything
was pretty, it's very dense, very

compact- Mm-hmm … type of episode.

Everyone's here.

Everyone's here.

So let's, uh, let's get into it.

And we- Yeah … are resurrecting
the $6 million suit against Alicia-

Yeah … and the adoption case.

Um, which Jason, I am not good at
remembering all of the details, but

do you have, like, can you sum it up?

And this is definitely putting you
on the spot, but, like, I don't know

why I would do that after I was just
asked to be replaced on the podcast.

Oh.

But can you- You were not, you were
not asked to be replaced, okay?

Let's, let's- Can you- No … just,
like, sum it up for everyone

off the top of your head?

So this, this was a suit that I think
came about, like, right as the big schism

was happening, and there was a, there was
a question here of whose fault this is.

Because there was an adoption suit
that was going through that did not go

through because, uh, there was a claim
by the Chippewa Nation- That's right

of this child.

Child's getting taken away, and the, the
mother and father, the adoptive mother

and father, were blaming LG because
they didn't do all they needed to do.

And it came out That LG was trying
to bribe the Chippewa Nation to leave

this kid alone, let the adoptive
parents adopt them Right And then it

was a case of, okay, who did this?

Now, at the time, we found out that
this was all David Lee's doing.

David Lee was trying to
bribe the Chippewa Nation.

Alicia had no idea about this.

She was partially in charge here,
but David Lee was going behind

her back and doing all this.

And we found that out via
the betrayer of Floricagos.

I literally forgot the man's
name, but it was the, uh- Oh, yeah

the Asian gentleman.

Uh, it was the Asian gentleman
that, uh, that ended up, uh, you

know, backstabbing, uh, Floricagos.

He was gonna leave with Floricagos and
then he ended up becoming a partner

at LG- Right … because of this.

Well, he caused a bunch of drama for
Floricagos as they were leaving LG.

He was the one that was, like, going
rogue and trying to, like, copy

information when he shouldn't have been.

Yeah.

He was, he got them caught
on almost several occasions.

And then he went over to Floricagos and
then tried to strike a bargain with LG

to come back as a partner if he was a,
was willing to literally lie on Alicia

and say that Alicia was the one that
tried to bribe Ch- the Chippewa Nation.

It was this moment where they were
at a deposition and, like- Yeah

Alicia's there.

Like, "We're gonna get you in this
deposition. We're gonna make sure

that David Lee gets the blame for
all of this." And then, err, plot

twist, he puts it all on Alicia
because he was promised a partnership

by LG if he switched on Alicia.

Right.

Right, right, right.

Yeah.

So that brings us to here, and we have,
like, a conversation happening between the

client, Floricagos, and Lockhart Gardner.

All of this is happening via
teleconference because- Oh,

yeah … the client and hi- the
lawyer were not in Chicago apparently.

Yeah.

I don't know why.

Like, whatever.

But in- And this is, uh, this is good old
Carter Schmidt here, who we've seen, uh-

Yes … several times now, and we will
see in the future in, on Elsbeth, who,

you know, they're like, "Oh, my God."

Yes.

"The first, uh, crossover to, to the,
to, from Good Wife to, to Elsbeth

is Carter Schmidt." Carter Schmidt.

Yeah.

I mean, he was here.

He was here.

Yeah.

Uh, so they're having this conversation,
going back and forth, back and forth.

Like, they're still trying
to pin it on Alicia.

Alicia's like, "Hey, hey, this wasn't me.

This was David Lee." Like, which
firm was responsible for this?

It was Lockhart Gardner.

Lots of crosstalk.

We figure out that this is a
teleconference at this point,

because there, like, the bandwidth
cannot handle this much crosstalk.

Uh, Carter's basically like,
"Yeah, we're suing you both.

Like, one of you is responsible.

We're suing you both." So
that's what's happening.

Canning is, like, watching
Kalinda having a conversation

with Howard in the background and
is kind of, like, tracking that.

Um, and Carter's like, "Listen, let's
pick this back up when we land in

Chicago in three hours." I'm like, okay.

So they decide Alicia's like, "Now
that that's done, I can go pick up

dinner for Zach's graduation dinner."

Because apparently that's
happening, like, right now.

And this, this bothered me
the entire episode, Jason.

This concept bothered me.

Because Carrie walks up to Alicia
and says, "Well, how are you dealing

with it?" And she's like, "What?"
And he says, "Empty nesting."

And I'm like, where did Grace go?

W- what happened here?

Like, I'm like, I'm like- What?

… wait a minute.

Wait.

How … My, my nest is not empty.

My … I still have at least
one other person in my nest.

Her name is Grace Forck.

Like, what?

Like, and of course, like,
my mom lost it when I left.

And I was like, of course.

Of course that happened.

But, like, this … I … Empty
nesting comes up multiple times, and

I was like, no, there's no empty nest.

There's no empty nest.

And by the end of the episode, Alicia will
kind of fight back on that a little bit

with … when she has a conversation with
Eli later, is like, "Bro, do y'all not

forget I have another child?" Like, hello.

Hello.

Eli … Like, okay, so Alicia's,
like, really trying to walk out.

Carrie's trying to talk to her
while Alicia's walking out.

Eli calls and he's like,
"I have a disaster.

Finn is pulling out of the
race," we hear this information,

"because you wanna know why?

Because Finn is gonna time travel to
the 1920s England- … and he's going

to be living in Downton Abbey land,
so he needs to pull out of the race."

Um, and Eli's like, "Alicia, you
have to convince him not to leave."

And while Eli's having this conversation,
he walks by a portrait of Peter that has

a mustache and a, and a eye patch on it
And I was like, where did this come from?

What, what was this?

Why are people doing this
to Peter's portraits?

I'm for it.

Like, okay.

Of course you are.

So over- overwhelmed Alicia's
like, "Okay, let me call my mom."

This is another thing that bothered
me this entire epis- episode.

Okay, so she calls Veronica and
she's like, "Hey Veronica, can

you pick up the lasagna for dinner
tonight?" And Veronica's like, "Yeah.

Hi, I'm at Bloomingdale's." And
I'm not gonna say that there aren't

Bloomingdale's in Chicago, Illinois.

There is a Bloomingdale's, okay?

There, and a couple of them.

However, any Chicagoan would be
at Marshall Field's, first of all.

And this also will track throughout
the rest of this episode.

They are not in Chicago
this entire episode.

Mm-mm.

Maybe that's why they
were on a teleconference.

They're not in Chicago.

So Veronica's at Bloomingdale's,
which is definitely in New York,

and she's, like, talking, like,
"Why, why is Zach leaving tomorrow?"

And I was like, oh my God,
what is happening with Zach?

Apparently Zach has a job at
Georgetown and needs to leave

right away, right after graduation.

And, uh, Veronica's like, "I'm
not gonna pick up the food.

I think I'll make a, I'll make lasagna.

I can make a lasagna.

I'm good at making lasagna." And Alicia's
like, "Oh my God, this is, this is so

mu- Like, I can't, I can't handle this."

And Veronica's just like, "Yeah, I'm
gonna make the lasagna," and hangs up.

'Cause we've all had this, this situation
where it's like, I just need you… I'm

calling you because I have no other- Just-
… resort … do this I need you one simple

thing and not make it complicated.

And of course Veronica's like, "No,
I wanna make it super complicated.

I want to make it so that you have
to deal with me d- doing this stuff

when I could ju- I literally could
just pick up the food that you

already probably paid for." What?

That was,

that's the thing.

It's like, he, she, this is paid.

It's paid.

Just go pick it up.

I can just make this so much more
complicated for you and probably

make you have to deal with more stuff
than you w- even wanted to before.

It's like, okay, great.

Fantastic.

Like, it's just, oh, you wanna make
a salad to go with the lasagna?

Go for it.

Mm-hmm.

But, like, we have a lasagna.

They're gonna be eating lasagna,
like, for three months at this

house because of all this lasagna.

Yeah.

Ugh.

So Kalinda has found out that Howard
is the only undecided vote between the,

uh, Diane versus Canning LG situation.

Um, so she's like, you just,
like, he's easily persuadable.

Just offer him something.

We see David and Canning talking
to Howard, trying to sway him, and

Howard's like, "Uh, so, like, managing
partner?" They're like, "No, no." He's

like, he's like, "Why don't I do it?

Like, why can't I be managing
partner?" Like, Howard, come on, bro.

Don't be stupid.

Like- Don't be silly … no, like, we're
gonna be managing partners, but, like,

you're gonna be, like, the puppet master.

Like, behind the scenes.

Oh, yeah.

master, probe master.

Cut to, uh, Floro Cago's, uh, offices and
we see Care E, AKA Zepps, uh, like sitting

down with popcorn watching a TV show.

Like- I, and I see Zepps, I'm
like, oh, Zepps is, is here.

Zepps is still working here, I guess.

Have you been in this conference
room the whole time, Zepps?

'Cause like I think this is like
the, the per- the premier of this

conference room and Zepps is just
been hanging out here this whole time.

He's like, oh, yeah.

Where have I been the last eight episodes?

Here in this conference room.

You been looking for me?

I've been here.

The whole time.

The whole, the whole time.

So he's there watching
w- like, what's going on.

He is watching the fact that the Flor- or
the Lockhart Gardner camera is still on,

and he's listening to this conversation
between David and Canning and Howard

like, about like, what's happening.

Meanwhile, Clark, Clark is here.

And Clark is like, "Oh, we can't do this.

Like, this is- … this is
not something we can do.

Like, this is against the rules." Clark-
"We cannot do this." Clark, Clark the

narc is here being the narc that Clark is.

Like, come on, bro.

It's pretty funny though.

It's pretty funny.

And then of course they're
fighting and they mention, "Hey,

BB, we should have some doors."

Which again, from the last episode
with the walls and the doors, like

it's so good And Zeb's just like,
"Listen, listen, it's not our fault

that they left their stuff on.

I am here just passively
watching what's happening.

I, I have no responsibility here to
tell them that their stuff is still on.

They did it by a mistake.

I didn't do anything.

I'm just watching passively." And
Clark like tries to turn it off.

He's like, "No." He's like, he's like
start- He literally starts fighting Clark.

Clark is like, "This doesn't seem very
passive to me, okay?" Um, and then

like they're having this like almost
Draco fight over this teleconference.

Like, while Alicia's like,
"I'm ha- I'm doing something

over here. Do you mind?" Yeah.

And she's like meeting with Eli
and Finn at her desk, and there's

like only just like this fake door
window thing- Yeah … uh, between.

And so you see them fighting in
the background, and Eli's like,

"Well, maybe you should get some
doors on your conference room-

and maybe that would help the
situation." I told you about this

last week, and you still didn't get
any windows or door walls or doors.

Like, come on.

Uh, but the situation here is that
Finn i- ha- they have found that

Finn bribed a prosecutor to drop,
drop drug charges against his sister.

Basically, he cut a deal on a different
case to kind of help his sister out.

Um, meanwhile, like while this very
serious conversation is happening,

like we mentioned, Clark and Zebs
are fighting in the background.

Um, Eli is basically here to deliver
the news that like Peter's dropping out.

Like he is not going to, you know,
he's going to withdraw his endorsement.

And I love Alicia here because she's
like, "Peter has done worse, okay?"

Like, this is not like- No, I think
she says he's, I think she goes,

"He's endorsed worse." Yes, exactly.

But it's like- Yeah, exactly.

He's like in, in the endorsement
department, he's endorsed worse people.

Um, and Eli's just like,
"Nope, it's time to move on.

We advise you to withdraw to avoid
any embarrassment." And Alicia

is like, tracks down Eli and is
like, "Is this about the photo?"

And Eli's like, "This isn't… Like
this, put your politics hat on, young

Padawan. I've been trying to teach you
this entire time. Uh, this whole situation

is not survivable." Yeah, 'cause I
mean, I feel like that's pretty serious.

Um- Yeah … if, if you're gonna apply
to be a state's attorney and you just

like, "I actually bribed someone to
do something for my family member,"

like, I mean, I know this is Chicago
and it's to be expected, but you know,

that's still pretty, that's pretty bad.

Well, yeah, this is, this is over.

Like I- But this is- Is this
the last we see of Finn, or is

it, are we gonna see Finn more?

I feel like we see Finn
more- I don't know.

I don't know.

I think he goes to town Abby.

I don't know.

It does seem very sudden to be like, "We
had this whole storyline going." Yeah.

And then like, like just kidding.

Well, and we have to remember Peter
is running the most ethical g-

uh, governor's mansion he's ever
run in his- Yeah … entire life.

So any speck of dirt is not gonna
be survivable for Finn- Well, it

just seems like for this- … in the
long-term … for this to kinda come out

of nowhere is just like, "Oh, okay." Yeah.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Cool.

I was like, "Oh, okay.

So we're here." Uh, while Eli and Alicia
are having this conversation about

the political survivability of this
situation, they are walking and talking

and Alicia gets a phone call and she
sees that it's Peter's number so she's

like, "Oh my God, this is Peter right
now." Again, I hate Jackie, don't like

Jackie, but she is great comedic relief
sometimes because she answers the phone.

She's like sitting at this
desk like w- power hungry.

Like she's like just fueled with like pr-
like, I don't know, she's like, "Why would

you think it's Peter?" And she goes like-
"Why would you think it's me?" Well, she

goes, "It's Jackie." Like- Like bro, no
one is excited to hear from you, Jackie.

Why do you think we are?

And like, why, why would
you think it's Peter?

I don't know, 'cause he's calling,
you're calling from his office phone.

Like why would I not
think it's Peter, Jackie?

And Jackie's like, "What kind
of cake do you want me to make?"

And Alicia's just like, "What?

What, what do you mean?" And she's
like, "Yeah, Veronica called and said

that you wanted me to make a cake."

She's like, "No, I asked Veronica
to pick up the cake." And meanwhile,

Jackie is getting served this coffee
on the side and she goes, "It's

too hot." Like, "No." It's coffee.

"I can't, I can't have it.

It's too hot." And so, um, it … Yes,
so this whole situ- Jackie's like,

"Don't worry, I'm gonna bake a cake."
And Alicia's just, uh, tells, uh,

Eli, "Okay, I'll talk to Finn later."

And Carrie is like vying for
Alicia's atten- attention.

This is all like all happening
all at once type of thing.

Basically at this moment, Alicia and
Kerry turn in to the parents of this

law firm because the children of Clark
and Kerry and Zepps are still fighting.

They are fighting over what
to do in this situation.

Alicia and Kerry are kind
of brought in to resolve it.

Um, there's a conversation
about, like, what is this?

Like, is this information that,
like, if another lawyer slipped you

information, how would you act against it?

And Zepps is like, "It says zealously
represent your client." And Clark is

like, "You slap the word zealously
on anything just these days.

Like, what's going on with that?" And
Kerry basically says, "The American Bar

Association says that the lawyer must
consult with the client." And it looks

like here the, you know, the client would
be Alicia, so like, "Alicia, what do

you wanna do about it?" And I love that
everybody's, like, whipping out their,

like, BlackBerrys and their phones.

Like, look, to look up the most
current ABA, uh, rules and guidelines.

They're go, "Well, no,
that's the one from 1993.

This one is, is from last year, so
this one says we can do this, that."

Like, they, everybody's like looking
at them for like, "Let me see, let me

see my little pocket ABA, uh, rules
and guidelines" type of a thing.

Well, and I can only imagine
how much that has sped up these

days now, you know what I mean?

I mean, there must be
a new update every day.

Yeah, yeah.

So Alicia's like, "Well- This
isn't about the case, so we really

shouldn't be listening in on it.

Like, let's turn it off
because it's about Diane.

And then she's like, "I should tell them."

So she tries to tell them.

She's like, "Mr. Canning,
David, the camera's still

on." They are still yapping.

Like, they cannot hear her say this.

And Canning then ch- changes the
conversation to talking about

Alicia's case with David Lee.

And basically we hear that Mrs. Gopnik,
the person who was trying to make the

adoption, feels betrayed by Florrick/Agos.

And- Well, actually, they say
the wife feels betrayed- Yes,

that's true … by, by Alicia.

And so it's gonna, it's
gonna come into play later.

Yes.

Be like, the wife.

The wife feels betrayed by Alicia,
so they… So that's, that's

the whole crux of the thing.

The wife is- They say the wife, and then
the inference in this moment is Mrs.

Gopnik.

Yeah, that's what they think.

That's what- Yeah … that's
who they think we think they're

talking about in this moment.

Yes.

Yes.

And then, um, you know, we hear Louis
Canning say, Florrick/Agos is go-

done… Or David Lee says, "Florrick/Agos
is gonna be done and gone in 48

hours." And everyone at this point
is, like, sitting down and listening.

And meanwhile, Clark is like, "We
just said we weren't gonna do this.

Like, what is… Like, we just said
this." And they're like, "Yeah.

Well, not so much anymore,
Clark." It's like, "F you, Clark.

We're gonna do what we gotta do
now 'cause, uh, now it's about,

about, you know, us surviving
now, so g- go somewhere else with

your, uh, righteous indignation."

You don't have to sit
here, Clark, and listen.

You can leave if you like.

Like- You can leave.

Yeah.

You're still sitting here listening,
so you, you could've gone at any time,

but you're still here, so I don't know.

So the, Florrick/Agos pulls the
partners together, which is, like, a

team of, like, 80 gazillion people.

And they're arguing, arguing, arguing,
and then we hear someone take charge,

and who could that be other than Robin?

Came out of nowhere.

I don't know.

Robin's, Robin's still here?

Where you been?

It's like, "Oh, hey." And she's
questioning, she's like, "Okay, but like

if we settle…" They're suing both firms.

"If we settled for $3 million,
that's like not going to destroy us."

Because they heard Canning and David
talking about destroying Flor- Floricagos.

And so she's like, "It's not going
to destroy us. What could it be?"

And then they deduce that maybe they
could be trying to disbar Alicia.

Mm-hmm.

And they're like, "Where would this
come from? Is there anything in the

adoption case that could do that?"

So they decide to go through all of the
discovery that they have on the situation.

Meanwhile, on the, on the LG camera,
there's like two random people making out.

This, this is- … obviously
like a, like an office affair.

It's like, okay, but that's
great, but you do know that even

LG has all like glass windows.

Like, someone could still… Like,
this is not a secret, like room.

I, I get that it was for comedic relief.

I was like, that's not very practical.

Agreed.

Agreed.

Uh, during all of this then, also Veronica
calls and asks like to find the flower.

And she's like, "Yeah, Jackie's here
and needs the flower to make the cake."

And Alicia's like, "Jackie's
there? Ah." It's like eyes widened.

Veronica and Jackie in the same space?

That's never good.

Clark does bring up the point to Kerry
like, "Hey, like we were just like booed

by the NSA and we did not like that.

That w- and we are basically doing the
same situation." And Kerry is like,

"Clark, this is a decision that I made to
protect these 60 employees that work for

us, so drop it basically at this point."

Kerry's like, "Whatever, Clark.
Ethics shmethics at this point."

Peter and Eli have a conversation
about Finn dropping out.

He, I do enjoy the, uh, notice
that Peter has that it smells

like p- perfume behind his desk.

And he's like, "Are you wearing perfume
back here?" And Eli says, "It's Jackie.

She likes to sit there
when you're not here."

And this, this like little exchange
between Peter and Eli is so great because

it makes their relationship feel real.

Yeah.

And then there's, they have this like,
they have this little pithy back and

forth of like, uh, yeah, you know,
Jack, I like searched your desk.

And he's like, "It shouldn't
have been, uh, Lady Macbeth, it

should've been Mother Macbeth.

And, and Peter's like, "Can we talk
about replacements?" He's like,

"Replacements for Jackie you mean?

" Like I could come up with a
list of replacements for Jackie.

But yeah, they're like looking for
a replacement for the new, um, t-

endorsement for the state's attorney,
and they're like, "Oh, we need someone

who's experienced, who's vetted.

What about Diane Lockhart?

Set up a meeting." The way my eyes rolled
in my, rolled back in my head when,

when he said that, like why would that
ever be… Like that should be your last

thought. No, but that is how Peter thinks.
He's like, "You, like I, like I'm Peter

Florick, why wouldn't you do this for me?

Like I- Like I did it.

It doesn't matter that I like
shamelessly betrayed you.

Um- Yeah, no … you know, you
should still be cool with me.

Yeah.

He did that with Alicia,
he's now doing it with Diane.

Like I stabbed you in the back, uh,
i- with this Supreme Court thing.

But- Would you like to stand in front
of me and turn around one more time?

Yeah, I mean- Is that like a thing?

And I'm gonna do it again.

Like I'm about to do it again.

Like I, I'm gonna dangle this in
front of you, and then I might follow

through with it, and I might not.

Like you don't know, but you should
just be honored that I'm giving you this

opportunity to be backstabbed by me again.

It's like why would you ever,
ever even think that that should

be something you're doing here?

Yeah, and like they don't
know the drama of what's going

on with Diane at this point.

But like- It, it doesn't even matter.

It doesn't even matter.

Like- No, it doesn't mat- no,
no, I know it doesn't matter,

but I'm just like trying to put
myself in Diane's shoes of like-

Is this, like, is this the
best opportunity that I got?

You know what I mean?

Yeah.

Like, when, when it co- it's like, ugh.

Yeah.

This again?

That's not one that comes up, but like
for Peter to be like, yeah, let's,

let's see if Diane wants to do it.

Like, I know I, like- Gross … I
let personal politics get in the

way of, of things before, but I,
that might happen again, it might

not, but let's see if she's willing.

Like, ew, gross.

Like, why- Gross … why
would she ever do that?

Diane is trying to woo Howard into voting
for her, and so she's like, "What, what,

what could I get you?" Okay, and Julius-
Julius is here … Julius says, "Didn't

you want, like, a different office at one
point?" And Howard's like, "No, no, no.

I'm good.

I'm good."

They're like, "Oh, Canning, Canning
gave you an office." And he's like,

"You know, in all the time I've been
here, I've never cross-examined anyone."

In his 55 years of practicing law,
he has never cross-examined anyone.

Well, Howard, what have you
been doing for 55 years?

Like- He's been, like, uh- Is Howard-
… being used for votes pretty much

is Howard just really good at, is
he really good at, like, paperwork?

Like, what, what… In his heyday, like
now he's a old fart that is- Takes snaps-

… terrible … without his pants on.

Right.

But in, let's say in years one
through 20, what was Howard good at?

What did Howard do?

I don't know, man.

I don't know.

Uh- Maybe he was like, maybe he
was like Karen in the early, early

years and was able to settle things
before they, they ever got to court.

No, I just think this man bumbled
himself into opportunities and is

willing to be used for whatever he
needs to be used for in the moment,

and he's gotten really good at that.

I guess.

And so he's, he's here yet again to be
wooed, and, uh, during this conversation-

Uh, Diane does get the phone call from
Peter saying like, "Hey, do you want to

like come in and talk about this at 5:00?"

And she's like, "Sure. Great."
T- Diane gets told that P-

that governor's on the phone.

I'd be like, "Okay,
hang up." Yeah, exactly.

Like, what?

So- Exactly … oh, the
governor's on the phone.

Hang up.

And at this point too, also like
Cl- Kalinda is like also right

there again to like overhear-
Kalinda's dying to side with you

the conversation or be used
or like do some sort of thing.

I don't know.

But she's like, "Okay, Peter, I'll meet
with you at 5:00." And then she says,

"Hey, hey Howard, would you like to
question someone today?" And I think

it was Julius who's like, "What?" And
it's like- It's- … it's a deposition.

It's a deposition.

It's fine.

No big deal.

At first I was like, is she
gonna have Howard question Peter?

Like what's, what's happening here?

Yeah.

Yeah.

Like, no she doesn't.

But I was like, is, is she gonna
mess with Peter and make Howard

take this meeting with her?

And like, and she t- like it's Kalinda
like, "Kalinda, you're coming with me

to the, to this, this governor meeting."

Yeah.

And it's like, Kalinda's like, "Uh, with
Peter Florick? Uh-" Who I swore to never

be in the same room with ever again.

Yeah.

As if she was Alicia.

Um, yeah.

Yeah.

No, I don't wanna do that.

And Diane's like, "No, you're
gonna do that." Like it's not

even a, it's not even a question.

It's not like, it's not like Diane
can be like, "Well, why don't you

wanna go meet with Peter, Kalinda?"

Kalinda like, "Well, I mean
actually, uh, we, we had sex at one

point." She's not gonna say that,
so she's kinda like, "Okay, fine.

Cool."

Back at Fleur, Kag goes there
strategizing what to do.

So they tell Alicia like, "Hey, you
should go to a locker gardener for

the deposition." And she's like,
"Why?" They're like, "Well, like

maybe you could start a conversation
in front of this camera about, like,

what they left out of discovery."

And Alicia's like, "That's so slimy."
And they're like, "Well, is it?

Or is it self-defense?" And she's
like… Then we see her go to the

deposition and… Or like speaking of
slimy, here's Louis Canning. He starts

off, he starts everything else off and
they're like, "Any questions everyone?

Any questions?" Uh, Alicia
says hi to everyone except for

David Lee, which was great.

I love this as a running joke where every
time Amy gets in, Amy gets dressed for a

mock trial and David Lee gets left out.

And again he's like, "Do I not
rate?" Like, no David, you don't.

You've asked this question before.

You don't rate.

But I love that, you know, because
Canning starts like, "Uh, Alicia,

thank you so much for being here.

You didn't need to be here, but, uh,
but you know, great that you did." And

she's like, "I just want to make…"
Like she's yelling to make sure she

gets- … like she's pro- Like, "I just
want to make sure that everything's

on the up and up." Like, wow.

Alicia's way of playing it off.

She's so awkward about
this entire situation.

Yeah.

Uh, they go around, "Any questions?"
Uh, Carter has no questions.

No questions.

And then Diane's like, "Howard has
some questions." And Howard walks

in and everyone's like, "What?" Huh?

What?

And of course, of course,
uh, Howard is gonna Howard.

And so his first question is, "Did
you bribe the Indian Council?" And

Alicia's like, "I think you mean,
um," I forget what he- Tribal Council.

Tribal Council.

Which I was like, I was like-
I was like, like in Survivor?

No, and so many things in this
episode had me thinking of Survivor.

I was like, Tribal Council like Survivor?

Oh

my gosh.

And she's like, "Did you… I
don't think they like being called

India- Indian Council." And,
um, she's like, "No, I didn't."

And he's like, "You expect us
to believe that?" Like, no.

It's like, what is this, A Few Good Men?

Yeah.

Like, what is this?

And she's like, "It's a transcript of
a meeting." And while Alicia is like

identifying this transcript of the
meeting, Howard turns to Kalinda and

says, "You don't mind being called…
Like Indian's not offensive, right?"

Well- Like, that's good.

Now, now Marissa, Marissa, I have
to call you out a little bit.

Oh, was it not Kalinda?

It was not Kalinda.

Oh, geez.

It was not Kalinda.

Alicia Garza.

Because it could be Glinda, because
Alicia's in the same, in the same room.

That's right, that's right, that's right.

That's right.

I believe that was the court stenographer.

Okay, that's fair.

And Howard's like … And Howard like
wants to make sure that he makes it clear

that saying Indian is not offensive.

They're fine with it.

Like he assures them they're
fine with being called Indian.

Yeah.

Trust me.

Well, and also it's like the wrong Indian.

Like it's the different-
Right … like it's not right.

Yeah.

Uh, yeah, see guys.

Woo, boy.

Yeah.

Oh, boy.

Alicia, Alicia Garza strikes again.

Oh.

I, I got- Everybody- Like
I am, I am half white.

Like it's gonna happen.

Like just- I, I- … own up to
it … well, I love the how it's

like can you tell me what this is?

And Alicia's like, "It's a Xerox
of a takeout menu." And he's

like, "Oh, wrong, wrong thing.

Wrong thing." It's
this. "This, this, this.

This instead." And, and then she's … He
asks her to read from the transcript

and she's like reading the wrong part
of the transcripts that David Lee- Well-

like not the wrong part- Yes, yeah … but
the part that would, that like it- How,

like how is, how does tell us to read
something on the page- Yes … and she's

like, "I'll just read something on the,
the top of the page, I guess?" Yeah.

She's like, "No." But there's like a
flagged- Yeah … a flagged statement-

Yeah … that David Lee then points to.

And it basically says that, you know,
she paid the $10,000 and Alicia's like,

"Uh, he's lying." And, and um, Howard
goes, "Well, why would an associate lie?"

And she's like, "Because he wanted to be
partner." And, um, like the other side,

like the people who are watching this,
like are- Robin Zeps- Yes … and Clark.

Yeah.

Yes.

They're like confused- Yeah … by
like this whole situation.

Um, so they end the deposition at this
point and Alicia's like, "Hey, um,

can I ask you like a question?" And
they're, they leave to go to Canning's

office, which is like Will's office,
and as, as she's doing it, like the

entire team back at Florrick/Agos
is like, "No, keep him in the room.

Keep him in the room." She's like,
"Uh, actually can we, can we have

the conversation here?" And Canning's
like, "Oh, yeah, like I didn't mean

to take Will's office, but like I just
thought it would look bad if no one

was-" And she's like, "Oh, oh, yeah.

Yeah, that's it." Yeah.

Yeah, that's it.

"I feel so distraught about Will I
cannot set foot in his office, so yes."

That's it.

"Exactly.

We have to do it in here 'cause
I can't step foot in there.

I'll cry.

I'll start crying." And then again very
awkwardly Alicia is like, "What did

you leave out of discovery?" Frame.

She like frames a picture.

Yeah.

She's like, "Look, I can … I
need to stand right here so I

can get everybody in the frame."

"Uh, Diane, can you tuck in
a little closer to me?" Yeah.

"Let me get everybody in the camera
frame." Like, what did you … And she

just like basically says this and leaves.

Yeah.

Like she's like, "Oh, I gotta go."
Now, you all can start talking about

me as when I leave, but stay right here
as you do it please and speak clearly

and loudly as you speak about it.

Bye.

She leaves.

They're of course like, "What
the frick was that?" Like, "What

is going on?" What is going on?

And while they're having this
conversation, Carrie notices a woman

on the other side of the glass.

Again, should probably put up some
walls, or doors, or something.

Right.

But- Great… I mean, fantastic
eyes from Carrie, 'cause like- Yeah

I don't know how he did that.

He's like, "Hey, who is, who is
that?" They're like, "Oh, it's

Neil Gross's wife." Different wife.

Different wife.

Yeah, not the wife, not the wife we
thought we were talking about, but Neil

Gross's wife, who Carrie somehow is able
to pick out from way in the background

of, of the Lockhart Gardner offices.

And like I lo- I love the- I love how
he's like, "Can you zoom in?" Yeah,

"Can you zoom in?" Like, "No, this
is a live stream." "Can you record

it?" Like, "No, it's a live stream.

Like what… Don't you hear about that?"
And like we see, see Carrie get like

right up into the cam like, "Oh my God,
that's Neil Gross's wife." It's like,

and interesting enough as like spoiler to
the rest of the episode, we don't really

ever even actually come back to this- No

development at all.

It's like, "Pft, okay." No,
but there is like… Yes.

It's just like the fact that she's
there is unstabilizing, I think.

Yeah.

And it does come into play I
think later with some other

things, but we don't ever see it.

I think it's just referred.

I know, I didn't even look up to
see if that was a actual actress

from like the, or the prior
episode that was Neil Gross's wife.

They- I guess I'm gonna go
with yes, 'cause everyone

was in this freaking episode.

But they literally could have just
had some other brunette random person,

'cause we never actually talked to her,
and it was like from very far away-

That's true … that we saw this woman.

So I don't even know if it
was a real person that played

her in the episode prior.

Next we see Veronica and Jackie cooking,
and I love this, because they're like,

"Oh…" Or Jackie goes to Veronica,
"Oh, Alicia gets her drinking from

you." And Veronica goes, "And Peter gets
his kindness from me." Well, rudeness.

Well, rudeness, yeah.

I was gonna say, rudeness from you.

Rudeness from you.

And it's like, "Oh, that seems
like, that seems like a insult."

She's like, "Yeah, exactly. That's
exactly what it is." Mm-hmm.

And they compare… So they're having
this conversation, and Veronica lets it

slip and says, "No wonder these two are
sl- uh, splitting up." And Jackie cannot.

She's like, "They are not doing that.

How did, how did you hear that?

How did you?" It's like Veronica's
like, "I heard it from my son.

He talks to me."

Yes.

Like, and it's like, "Why are you
waving this in my face?" And she's

like, "I'm not waving this in your
face." And Grace then walks in and

is like, "What the heck is going on?"

Yeah, Grace, Grace w- one thing that's
going on and oh no, this is not good

Yeah, both, both, both things happening.

Uh, so Carrie sets up to go meet with Mrs.

Chumhum, like, because… But
we never see this happen, but-

Mm-hmm … y- they're, this is how
they're gonna deal with the situation.

And at this point, Carrie then says,
"I really am the new Will." Oh, sorry.

Oh, sorry.

I didn't mean- I'm sorry … to say Will.

And I was like, "That's rough."
Too soon, too soon, Carrie.

Way too soon.

Like, why did you say that?

Like, yes, he was saying that a
bunch before Will died, but y-

th- this is- Yeah … too soon for
this after Will's death, Carrie.

Relax, chill out.

You're not the new Will.

You're way, you're, you're
far off from the new Will.

And then, like, you know, they were
just like, "We can't lose Chumhum

'cause that really will kill us."

That will kill us.

'Cause s- Chumhum is 75%
of our operating income.

Like, damn, you, y'all are
reliant, reliant on Chumhum.

Well, when you're starting
out, that's what you gotta do.

Like- Yeah … you gotta find
one client and stick with them.

So in the middle of all this, Peter
calls and he's like, "Uh, do you

know where the casserole dish is?"

Because like my mom called me to say that
your mom couldn't find the casserole dish.

I love how Peter calls Jackie, Mother.

Oh my God, I hate it so much.

Mother called- I hate it so much
because fricking, what's his name?

He was a pr- vice president
of the United States.

Uh, which one?

Uh, Pence.

Mike Pence.

Yes.

Also called his wife, called his
wife Mother- Okay … but would

call, say Mother all the time.

And he's like, "You didn't say
anything to Mother about our

arrangement, did you?" I was like, no.

Carrie interrupts this with a
knock, but then Peter says, "How

are you doing with this empty nest?"
And I'm like, "What the frick?"

Uh, that's not empty, Peter.

Your daughter's still there.

Yes.

Grace is like literally standing in the
kitchen in that house at the moment.

So they are overhearing conversations
with, um, Diane and Julius and

one other person about possibly
merging with Lock-, uh, Floragogo's

and Lockhart Gardner merging.

And Diane says that Carrie wants
three years of Chumhu- money, and

Julius is like, "We can't do that."

And then we hear Diane go again straight
to Kalinda and says, "Hey, can you talk to

Carrie and see what's going on?" And she
like hesitantly like walks away, but she

does follow through with this, and Diane
says, "Kalinda has a way with Carrie.

We've exploited this before." Ow.

Ouch.

Ah.

Yeah, and you can just- I hurt for Carrie.

Yeah.

Ooh.

Yeah.

And like the way that this was filmed
and the score underneath it was so

good because- So good … it like,
it just like zeroes in on Carrie.

We hear this like high string, like ee.

Um- And, and, and for, and for this to
be happening like the way it's happening

with all of Flo- Fl- I mean, the most
important people at Floragogo's- Yeah

standing there with Carrie as this, as
this thing is being said about Carrie,

like, "Oh, yeah. Basically like we got
Carrie in our thumb. Like we, Kalinda

can make him do anything we want." Yeah.

"He's our little, he's our little
puppet. We, we got, we got his ass.

Like, Kalinda's is, can use him
whenever we want her to use him."

Like, ugh Oh, no.

And, and the w- and like you
said, like, Kalinda goes in

the corner and calls Kerry.

Kerry like, you know, walks around
the non-existent wall like, to have,

like, a, a semi-privacy I guess.

And like the, the tenseness of
the conversation is like, ugh.

Well, yeah, 'cause Kalinda's
like, "Um, so 6:00 tonight?

Like, you wanna meet up at 6:00?" And
he's like, "If you still want to." Like,

he's, like, holding in his anger, right?

Like, all this, like- Yeah … yeah,
like, well why wouldn't I?

Or why wouldn't I…
You're being weird, Kerry.

Like, you're being weird.

He's like, "Oh, okay. I'll
see you then." Hangs up.

Alicia's right there and is
like, "Well, we need to discuss

this," and he's like, "Where?

W- we have no walls.

We have no doors.

So let's go outside and have this
conversation." And they're fighting about,

like, the potential merger, and Alicia is
for it and Kerry is against. And Alicia's

like, or Kerry's like, "Of course.

Of course you're for it because
your last na- name is the same

last name as the governor.

Like, they're gonna put your name up
as, like, a name partner." And Alicia's

like, "Well, let's just ask that
yours get up there too." And Kerry's

like, "No, why would we do this?

Like, why is this something…
We have something going here.

Why would we do this?" And
Alicia's like, "Kerry, I'm tired.

Like, I'm tired of, like,
struggling to survive."

And she's like… And
Kerry's like, "No you're not.

You're not tired because of work."
She's just like, "I'm not?" It was

like, "Is this about Will?" And then,
and then Kerry goes, "I don't know.

Is it about Will?" And Alicia
says, "If you're angry at

Kalinda, take it out on her.

Do not take this out on me.

I have the votes, Kerry.

I have the votes to make this
happen." And- Well, because I

have the votes to get us to merge.

And I was like, ooh, Survivor again.

I have the votes to get
the two of us to merge.

We got, we got a m- the
majority to get to merge.

Ah, I'll be with you 'til the final five.

Um, so then Kerry goes in and
is like, "Hey, Zepps, listen.

On the down low, can you get a vote count?

Because this is happening." And
Zepps is like, "We can't merge."

And Kerry's like, "Yeah, I know.

That's why I need you to go get this
vote count." Yeah, I just, with the,

with this whole, like, outside fight,
it's just like- Ali- like, I, I hear

Kiri's argument of like, "Alicia, we've
literally just started this firm- Yeah

a few months ago.

Like, obviously it was
not going to be easy.

Yes, we are struggling, but
that's what a new firm does.

For a new firm, we're doing pretty good.

For a new firm, we got Chumhum." Like,
I wish… I th- I think they should

have upped the pressure a little bit
on the Chumhum piece to make them

actually feel like Chumhum was being- Yes

taken away from them.

Because if that was the case, then
there would be a lot of, of validity

to Alicia's argument to be like,
"If we lose Chumhum, we're done.

So why don't we merge with them before
we lose Chumhum- Well- … and are, like,

in a bad spot." And then her argument
of, "I'm tired and I don't wanna keep

building," makes even more sense because
if Chumhum gets taken away from them,

not only would they be dead, but if
they decide to, to keep building, that

would be like starting from zero again.

Yeah.

And like she doesn't wanna do that.

And if they lose leverage now,
if they lose the Chumhum stuff,

they have lost their leverage.

Yeah.

Um, because if Chumhum gets taken away
from them and they try to go hat in

hand to Lockhart Gardner, they're not
gonna get anywhere near a good deal-

Right … if they don't have Chumhum.

So I wish we could have made that piece
l- uh, ratcheted up a little more to g-

to make some s- there's some better stakes
for Alicia's argument because Alicia's

argument now is just like, "I mean, I
kinda miss Lockhart Gardner, don't you?

Like I, I kinda miss, uh, the, the great-
You know, they- … uh, coffee cart.

You know, I lo- I, I love that place."
And their version of walls and doors as

opposed to our version of walls- So much
better And, a- and I, you know, we keep

harping on this … I keep harping on
this fact that Alicia's like … Alicia

just once an episode is like, "I'm
so tired from all of this." I'm like,

but we … I just, I don't see it.

Like, as m- u- until she says this in
every episode, I'm like, okay, I guess.

But I feel like we haven't
had a consistent feeling-

Yeah … of dread from Alicia.

Of like, it happens once an episode,
but every other time it feels

like she's doing great at her job.

She's, she's out here moving and shaking.

She's quote-unquote changed.

But then once an episode she's like, "I'm
so tired, Carrie." It's like, "Really?"

Well, and like, and even in when she
talked to Eli last episode, he wa- she was

like, "It's about everything." Like all of
the- Yeah … like, like … And, and we

ha- we saw her mourn for like two seconds.

We didn't necessarily see
any, you know, other thing.

I did like the stuff like right after
Will's death where she was kind of

like spiraling in some sort of way,
but then it was just kind of like,

"Okay, we're done." And I'm not saying
that that doesn't happen for people.

But in this case, I think you're right.

Like, is she missing things?

Like, is there something in her behavior
at work where she's not able to keep

up, or where she's not even- Right

like, that could show us just how
tired she is as opposed to be- us

being told- Yeah … that she is tired.

But I, I lo- I love this, this fight
from them, because it's just like, yeah.

Like, it's, it's as if Alicia
wants to pack up early and go home.

And Carrie's like, "No bro, we are
… We're just starting this." Like- Well,

and it fulfills the prophecy of them
being the new Will and Diane because this

is like classic Will and Diane- Mm-hmm

situations.

Will wants to, Will wants to be
aggressive and keep building, and

Diane is like, "I need stability." Yes.

We want like, we wanna
make sure that we're good.

And Will's like, "No, we got, we got
so much more we can do." And I, I

think that's where like the, what,
that's where Carrie and Alicia are.

Alicia wants to go back
to safety and security.

Because let's be honest, the only
reason that Alicia went to Floragogo's

and started Floragogo's was Will.

To get away from Will.

Because she had such- Of
course … like tense, like, uh,

steamy, hot, like tension with Will.

The back of his neck.

She had to get away from Will.

She couldn't even look
at the back of his neck.

Right.

She had to get away from him.

And now that Will's gone, she's just
like, "I mean, what am I really doing

this for?" Like, you know, what, uh- Yeah.

Like- If I can, if I can go to
Lo- back to, uh, Lockhart Gardner,

and better yet still get my name
on the joint, like that's cake.

That's great.

Love that for me.

And Carrie's like, "No, I wanna
get away from that toxic, terrible

structure that was Lockhart Gardner.

I, I wanna build my own toxic, uh,
structure here at Floragogo's."

Yeah, and I think like in a way,
I don't know, this might be a

very weird read, but it's like-
cu- like she is very comfortable.

She doesn't wanna go
outside the comfort zone of

her life that it was.

She was willing to do it so that she
didn't have to deal with the Will stuff.

But like you said, now that the
Will stuff is no longer part

of the equation, like she's not
comfortable having to build something.

Yeah.

She, she wants to just kind
of like walk in, and that has

kind of been her whole life.

Like she's- Yeah … kind of
just like walked in and had

that put together for her.

So yeah, yeah.

Things… We'll see.

We'll see where this goes.

I love that they- So Diane- … came to
a head f- with G- with these two finally.

We've had- Yes … we had some
moments of tension with them, we

had this, this weird moment of
like levity back w- between them.

Like, why are you all friends
again when, you know, we're just

fussing and fighting the other day?

And now we're back to like
things will come to a head.

So I, I love seeing… I love like ha-
finally having it out, like not only here

but later in the episode of like let's
get… Let's, let's cut to the brass tacks

here and say what this is actually about.

Yeah, like we are
definitely in war games now.

Like this is a different
type of partnership.

Diane does go meet with Peter, and,
uh, Kalinda's introduced to Peter

as a great girl Friday, to which I
wanted to be like, "This is horrible.

I hate this. I hate this so much."
I love the weird reveal of Kalinda

in this scene where wa- yeah, you've
got, you've got Eli and Diane in the

foreground, and then they, they, they…

And Peter's like right in front of them,
and they… Like Eli, Eli and Diane part.

They're like, "Oh, there's Kalinda.
Pop goes the weasel." Like, pop goes

the affair, motherf- Like, here I am.

Like, isn't this weird?

We- we're back in person again
and first time in a long time.

Remember when you F'd me?

Like, remember that?

It's like, it's like, yeah, and then,
and Diane's like, "Oh, Kalinda, so you

become a great girl Friday." I'm like, oh.

Ugh.

Kalinda's more than that.

I hate this.

She's way more than this.

I hate this.

Come on.

I hate this so much.

Uh, so basically Peter's like, "Hey,
uh, couldn't talk to you about this

on the phone, but w- how do you feel
about running for state's attorney?"

And it's like- She goes, "Oh, so I
would make a great state's attorney,

but not a Supreme Court Justice?" Ooh.

And Peter's like, "Well, unfortunately,
like that has been given to…" And

she's like, "Yeah, I know." Yeah.

"I know." Yeah, my guy.

I'm aware.

I'm aware that you gave
away my job, my guy.

I'm aware of that.

You remember that?

I remember that.

And like Eli's like, "Yeah, you know,
we've… Finn's dropping out. You're

already vetted." Like, Peter's like-
Yeah … Peter's like, "Also, also,

we know that you'd make a great
state's attorney. Like Eli, please,

like don't give away the farm here."

Well, 'cause Eli just wants
to like get this done.

Like he's just like- Mm-hmm

and j- j- and he should be more
considerate to, uh, Diane at this point.

And Peter can kind of like pick up the
tension here, so he says like, "I hope

you will consider it." And there's a
moment of silence, to which Kalinda,

as a proper Girl Friday, comes in
and says, "Well, when do you need to

know by?" And he says, "Tomorrow."

And she says, "Okay, I shall consider
it." Mm. And on the way out, Kalinda

and Diane have a conversation.

Basically Kalinda checks in and is
like, "Hey, are you okay?" And she's

like, "What?" "About the fact that
I'm already vetted and not a Supreme

Court Justice, and then just filling
in because Finn's dropping out?

Yeah.

Yeah, I guess I'm okay.

Uh, can you look and see what I'd be up
against if I decided to do this?" And I

love… This is like, I think, a, a meme,
like a Diane Lockhart meme where she's

like, "I don't know, maybe I'll just
quit and go live in New Zealand." Yeah.

That was funny.

Uh, so then the next scene
is supremely uncomfortable.

Very.

Uh, Carrie and Kalinda are
Carrie and Kalinda-ing.

And- AKA banging.

Yeah.

Yeah.

And- Kalinda says, "Stop." And Carrie
then takes a dominant position and

says, "I am not gonna slow down.

I'm not one of your woman, or one
of your women." And I was like,

where, where is this coming from?

Dark Carrie, I do not like dark Carrie.

Yeah.

And it's like, and she says, "Stop or
I'll hurt you." And so he does stop.

He pulls out in more ways than one.

Oh.

And then, uh, so she's like, "What's…"
Like, "What's going on?" Carrie doesn't

say anything, gets up, gets a phone
call, um, and finds out from Zepps

that Alicia is up by two in the vote.

Kalinda says, "What are you gonna do?"

And or like she wants to know what's
up, and Carrie doesn't answer.

Yeah, I love, I love this, uh,
this device they use when they want

to show people, uh, having sex.

Like this, like- In the sheet
tent … they've got this like

yeah, they've got this sheet fort.

Like just pretend like you guys
have the sheets over you, but it

looks like, it looks like we're
more into a sheet room here.

Like this is this is not what
I would call what it looks like

when we're under the covers.

Like do we, do we make some sort of
tent structure here for the covers?

There has to be like something
holding up the sheet.

Yeah.

Because there's no way you could be
doing all of that unless someone's

foot is like up like holding-
It's a weird proportionous manner

yeah … you know?

It's like such a weird device to
use to like, "We wanna show what

it's like under the covers." Like
that's not really what that is.

It's like- Well, and I know that
like shows will do this, and also

most famously in My World, Romeo and
Juliet, Baz Luhrmann version will do

it to like show it like, like it's
like ethereal and dreamy and like,

"Oh my gosh, I'm in like ecstasy
and heaven," and all of this stuff.

That is not what is happening
with these characters- No … in

this moment, like at all.

At all.

Yeah.

It's, it's a little of, of a betrayal to
Will and Alicia 'cause this was Will and

Alicia's thing for- Yes … like a minute.

And this is like even whether in real
life or dream sequences of, of the two

of them, it's just like, "Why are we
doing this for Kalinda and Carrie now?"

And in such a uncomfortable scene.

I was like- Ugh, it was so bad.

It was so bad … that
was, that was rough.

Yeah.

So Zepps did ask Carrie like, "What
are you gonna do?" And so we see

a scene- In New York, everyone.

I just wanna be very clear with
you that there is no way, there's

no shot that could be made that in
Chicago, that's not Chicago skyline.

We don't have a situation like this.

I was like, you are not even trying.

So many movies have been shot in that,
and TV shows have been shot at that place.

They're like not even
trying at this point.

There must have been like a budget
situation where Michael J. Fox

couldn't come to Chicago or anything.

Like, or they- Well, but they, they
always filmed in New York, though.

I don't feel like they
ever filmed in Chicago.

I think the show always
filmed in New York.

Okay.

Well, they are not trying to hide it in
any way, shape- I mean, remember, remember

when, uh, when Joe Jabernathy told you
like, uh, "New York? Oh, I mean Chicago."

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

That's true.

That's true.

They all… I, I guess, I don't, I
don't know, like- But it's like blatant.

Like Chicago skyline is something
that like, like you know it.

I ca- I guess.

I thought maybe it was just like,
"Hey, we're all in Chicago, so let's

shoot a Chicago skyline scene." But
you're, you're telling me that's

not, definitely not Chicago skyline.

Um, so yeah that's funny.

It's like- No.

No one will notice.

Well- No one will see.

No.

I'm like, "No." The person
here like, "That's not Chicago.

I know." It's not.

It's not Chicago.

Uh, so Kerry meets up with Canning in
New York, and it's basically like, "Hey,

I'm just here to tell you that Diane
wants to merg- merge with Florick Agos."

And he's like, "Why are you telling
me this?" Canning's like, "Why

are you telling me this?" Kerry's
like, "Look, I don't want a merger.

You don't want a merger.

So make your moves if you got
'em." And then he leaves, and,

and Canning's like, "Thanks.

Thanks for the information." Yeah.

I like when Kerry comes up to
Canning, he's like, "We haven't

had many dealings, have we?"

Yeah, like you guys were just in
a scene together last episode,

so, you know, okay, whatever.

Um- Well You were literally
just, you literally just went

up against Canning last episode.

Like, okay, you're, you're
well-known, you're well-known

to each other at this point.

He's like, "We haven't had many dealings."
You just had dealings last episode.

What do you mean?

He's very focused.

He was very focused on
his client, you know?

Yeah.

So- He's like, "You don't like
me, do you?" He's like, "No.

No one likes you, Louis.

No one does

Oh.

So then we go back to the apartment
and Zach is talking to Veronica.

Okay, he's all packed.

He's all packed and he's going on the
summer job tr- Why does he need to

pack his room for a summer job, Jason?

Why does he need to pack?

I don't know.

Like why do you, you don't
need- Where's he going?

Why does he need to bring
all that stuff with him?

What is going on?

Why are we packing?

I'm very confused, logistically.

You don't need, you don't
need this much stuff.

You don't pack up your whole life
to go to college and like- No

you like, your room is
gonna stay your room.

Like is Alicia turning into
like a gym or something?

Like- Like what is happening?

I don't know why, like it, we just,
it's just what happens when people

leave places, they pack things.

There's a lot of boxes,
like this is- Sure.

Okay … Brett's just
hanging up with boxes.

Like, but okay, that's not
real, that's not realistic.

Like the, the boy probably has like
a few suitcases of clothes, like- And

you're telling me that this senior in
high school is not gonna be out with

his friends the night before he goes?

Uh, not Zach.

Zach is, uh, very studious and,
uh, is very s- very study focused.

I mean, Marissa, the man does
not even take drugs at parties.

He takes drugs- Oh, yeah.

That's right … out of
people's hands at parties, okay?

That's right.

He's not that type of guy
That's right, that's right.

He can do no wrong.

Mm-hmm.

Yeah, but yes, this, this really
does bother me if you cannot tell.

Like, I'm like, "What the frick?"

But then they have this conversation,
Veronica and Zach, and Veronica

tells Zach, you know, like, "Alicia
left the day after too. Like, you're

just like her," all of this stuff.

And then she's like, "Is that
cake burning? Do you smell? Do you

smell a cake burning?" And we see
we see Jackie, like, crying into

her wine because But there was…

I, I have a question about this.

There was, like, some smoke
coming up in front of Jackie.

Like, was Ja- was Jackie smoking a doobie?

Like, is- No, she was crying
so much she burnt the cake.

Like, I think the oven is underneath the
thing in… They have fancy kitchens.

I, I guess.

I was like, "Is she
smoking, is she smoking up?"

Like, I was like, "What, what is
happening here?" That would be great.

That would be interesting.

Uh, my other question, like, uh, uh,
in terms of, like, where do these

characters go, where's Christian?

Last time we, last time we heard,
she- … Christian was still here, uh,

you know, putting it into old Jackie.

So where, where is
Christian at this point?

I mean, like- He didn't…
No … where is this?

What's Christian up to?

I don't know if that's what happened.

But yeah, maybe that's why she's crying
so much, because she's heartbroken.

Maybe.

Uh, but I mean, she's also
kind of heartbroken 'cause

she's been left out of things.

Yeah.

It's not, it's not even the
fact that, you know, uh, Alicia

and Peter might be breaking up.

It's like, "My baby didn't tell
me." So- Well, and I had to hear

from Veronica- Yeah, exactly.

… of all people, of all people.

Oh.

So, uh, Florick Agos is watching David
and Canning have this conversation

about the merger on camera.

And, like, all of Florick Agos is there.

I just need to… Like, everybody's there.

And, um, David's like, "Who told you?"

And Canning, again, who has no idea
who, who Kerry is, he's like, "Uh,

you know, that, that young guy over
there, that name partner, that oh, the

what guy. That guy Ker- Kerry? Kerry
Agos?" You … you know that several

deal with him last episode, Canning.

Come on.

And Kerry's like, "Yeah. Yeah, I
did. Yeah, I did go over there."

And Alicia's just like, "Why did you
do this? Do you know what type of

betrayal this is?" And Kerry says,
"Diane is working in secrets, and

Canning needed to know." And I was
like, "No." Oh, 'cause you care- "No,

bruh. No, bruh" … you care so much
about Louis Canning getting betrayed.

You, that, that's what
you're worried about, Kerry.

You don't want poor Louis Canning
getting the wool pulled over his eyes.

Come on, man.

This… We see pa- we see
through you, my G. Come on.

And this escalates to, like, a couple…
Like, a minute of, like, actual dialogue.

But, like, it feels like a
very long time of them going

back and forth, back and forth.

And you can just hear
Clark in the background.

He's like

We should never listen to this Oh
my God I told you Clark, shut up.

Leave.

Clark, leave.

We don't, this is not
what we need right now.

We don't need your, your
narky, uh, self-righteous ways.

Shut up.

Get out of here.

Like, and I, you know, I… Like, Alicia
and Clark are going back and forth.

He's like, "You just wanted to
sabotage Diane's efforts 'cause

you didn't want this to happen."

Yeah.

He's like, "Sorry I don't hold up to your
standards, Alicia." It's like, oh, okay.

And- It's getting like, it's getting
heated and it's getting deep and

Clark says his little thing and
then the phone rings and Alicia's

like, "What?" Like she like… What?

And Finn's like, "Is now a bad time?"
Like, like, and she's like, "No.

Every time's a bad time these days.

What's going on?" And Finn
says, "I'm dropping out.

Um, I talked to my parents because of
the whole, like, drug sister situation.

They just would feel better."
"You mean your parents in England,

and that's why you need to go
back and be a race car driver?

Okay, fine." So, um, and he tells
Alicia like, "Hey, they're after Diane

for this anyway, so I guess, like,
it's gonna turn out for the better."

And she's like, "What?" Yeah.

What?

Are you serious?

What?

What?

Diane then confronts Louis, uh,
Louis Canning and says, "This

is the fourth month you're here
at my firm that I built." What,

like- I think the fourth week.

I think the fourth week now.

Oh.

Oh, oh my God.

It feels like the fourth month.

Yeah.

The fourth week that you're
here at my firm that I built.

Like, what scheme do you
have going on right now?

And Louis Canning's like,
"Uh, I don't have no scheme.

I just have this, uh, notice of
dissolution." And she's like- He's

like, he's like- … "What?" … "I
have no scheme," as he had a

piece of paper behind his back.

Like I have no scheme.

Here's the thing, uh, I have
grounds to dissolve this firm

because Will's work was done without
the other pan- manager knowing.

Will's work of expansion, all of
this like unnamed contracts, all

of that stuff comes into play here.

And Diane's like, "You're dying. Like,
why would you wanna do this?" And Louis is

like, "Work is my life. If I don't work, I
will die sooner." And Diane at this point

has no, like, has no F's left to give.

Canning is going on about like, "I won't
be the one that dissolves the firm.

You'll be the one that dissolves the
firm." And then h- when Diane walks

out, he's like, "Blah, blah, blah,
blah," and then like drinks the rest

of her drink that she was drinking.

Yeah.

That was great.

He's doing his whole thing of like…
He's like, "I just, you know, I want

this firm to continue. I just want
there to be a consensus moving…"

Like, as… It's like, okay,
yeah, she's going for that.

Blah, blah, blah.

Yeah.

Blah, blah, blah, blah.

Like, it's so, so good.

So Louis Canning is just the perfect
little devil in any situation.

And- Cool … yeah, I, I, I
kinda hate that Will is being

used as a scapegoat here.

Yes.

Of like, you know, Will, Will was doing
all the wrong things, all the bad things.

We're… I, I can get rid of
this firm because of what he did.

I mean, he kind of was, and he was
high on coke, and there was like a lot.

Yeah, yeah, you see him.

Like, he was… There was a lot happening.

A lot went down.

Um, but for this to be the reason is…
Especially the fact that in the previous

episode, Canning had told Rena Hecht
that it was Diane that couldn't get

over Will's leaving, and then using…

Will's leaving, Will's
dying, um, using Will.

It's like, you're the
one using Will, my man.

And, and for- It's you … and for this,
for Will's things to be the reason that

Diane might lose the firm- Yeah … it's
got to be doubly, like terrible for her.

Yeah.

Yeah.

So who meets Diane outside,
other than her new BFF Kalinda,

AKA their edge- What you, boss?

What you, boss?

You mean, you mean this busting
me ass boss, what do you need now?

Who, who can I, who can I kill now, boss?

What's up?

What's going on, boss?

Like, ugh.

It's kinda like that, yeah, yeah.

She asked like, "What are you
gonna do?" She's like, "Uh," like

Diane lays out the whole scene,
and then Kalinda's like, "Well, you

could run for state's attorney."

And Diane's like, "I don't know.
Like, if Will were here…"

Again, very much like Alicia.

"If Will were here, I'd
have a reason to fight.

I'd have…" And then Kalinda's answer to
that was, "I'm here." I'm here for this.

And then they walk two more steps and
Kalinda says, "So you're decided?"

And Diane says, "Yes." We don't
know what that is yet, but yes.

And Kalinda like, Kalinda walks up, she's
like, "Okay, what are you gonna do?" Like

as if Kalinda knows what's, what's up.

We the team.

Yeah, exactly.

Like, "Do you have a bug in my office?
Did you just hear what happened with me

and Cathy? Like how do you know what's
happening?" Well, they're such good br-

friends now because they talk so much.

Because she, Kalinda has all this
time, she can't talk to Alicia anymore.

So she has all this
time, she talks to Diane.

They're like buddy-buddy.

Can't talk to Alicia, can't talk
to Will, can't talk to Cary.

Diane, you're it.

Alicia's on the phone with Peter
saying like, "Hey, look, I can't

come home for this graduation dinner.

Something just came up, but I'll be,
I'll be home as soon as I can." Ends

the conversation. Peter is in the
kitchen with Jackie, and Jackie's

like, "She's playing you for the
fool." Like she Oh my gosh. And Peter's

like, "What does that even mean?

Like, what are you even talking about?"
She's like, "She wants the power of

the office without anything in return."

Very Lady Macbeth, very, like,
situation, uh, situation happening there.

And then Veronica walks in, and
Peter's like, "Oh, hey, Veronica,"

and the conversation stops.

Well, and it's like, you know, uh,
Jackie's like, "Yeah, your daughter's

not gonna be here." And Veronica's
like, "Well, Jackie, that's what happens

when, when you work for a living.

I know you don't know what that feels
like." And Jackie, Jackie goes, "Bitch."

And like Peter has to like keep her back.

Like, "Oh, Jackie, getting a
little feisty." It's so good.

So good.

Okay, so the reason why Alicia cannot
go home is because Diane has arrived at

Florick Agos with a proposal for the team.

And, um, let me just say, Carrie is
on one side of a table, and Alicia's

on the other side of the table,
and they are both very defensive.

Diane can't even get a word out of
her mouth, and Carrie is like, "We're

gonna need three years of Chumhum
revenue." But it's just like, whoa, bro.

And, and Alicia's like,
"Yeah, Carrie, like, just let

Diane talk," back and forth.

And Clark is like, "Can we
just let Diane speak please?"

Please, can we just let her talk?

Please.

Children, children, can you just keep
it, keep it cool for a second please?

Uh, Diane kinda lays it out.

She's like, "Look, if we were to
merge, it would probably not be

great, and it would dissolve pretty
quickly knowing what Canning's up

to." Carrie's like, "Cool with me.

All w- works well for me.

I'm good.

Everybody good?

All right, let's go." And then she says,
"I'm actually here to ask if you would

take me and my $38 million in client
booking." And I, like Robin's reaction

is like, "Oh my God." Like, what?

And it seems like this is what
happens because Diane calls Eli

to say like, "No, I'm not gonna be
running for state's attorney," so.

Poor Eli.

Eli's like, "Why must everything be s-
so difficult?" The man is like sitting at

this empty table at Alicia's apartment.

I guess everybody else is going to go see
Zach graduate, and Eli- I know … just

left there in the apartment by himself.

Yeah.

Oh, Alicia does make it to
Zach's graduation just in time to

watch him walk across the stage.

She's Like literally bare- So
proud … like literally she got there

right before he walked up on stage.

Like if she had caught one more red
light, she'd miss the whole thing.

She would.

She would.

Uh, and then Zach hugs her and
is like, "I'm leaving tonight.

See ya.

Bye, Mom.

Later." Whoa.

"We gotta get a jump on traffic
'cause we're driving to Georgetown."

Well, I can ask you okay with that?

Because he knows from Veronica
that leads you to the same things,

like so you don't got no, like,
you know, problems there, right?

Right?

I know you ain't gonna try
to be, uh, hypocritical here.

And Alicia, for her part, is like,
"Hey, do what you gotta do." And it does

make me think, like it, did all this
stuff that's happened over the years

just really kinda put Zach in a place
where he's like, "I, I don't wanna be

here with this nonsense- Oh, for sure.

Oh, for sure … anymore.

Like more than, a minute more than I
have to be." If nothing else, I never

wanna pick up the phone and have to
explain which remote control to use.

Well, you're still gonna have to do that.

These, that's, that's a
lifelong- … parent-child contract.

It's true.

You're gonna have to be your
parents' tech support, okay?

That's, that's lifelong.

But I feel like especially with all the
things that have happened with that, you

know, that I'm sure that Grace and Zach
heard from that whole blow up between

Peter and Alicia and it- Yeah … all the
things that they put those kids through

over the years with Peter's house arrest,
with, uh, them trying to figure out that

their dad smoked crack with a prostitute.

You know, all these things kind of
add up to be like at a certain point

when you see that like little light of
freedom, you're like, "I need to take

this. I gotta get out of this toxic
situation now, b- as soon as possible."

And also, like, live the life that I
was told I couldn't live even though

my parents lived it type of situation.

I would like to note, though, that
because he is the eldest son, I

think he has this ability to go
leave and do all of the stuff.

Grace is the eldest daughter, even though
there is no youngest daughter, like is

stuck still behind with all of this stuff.

Mm-hmm, yeah.

E- wa- i- like no one
remembers she's there.

She's still gotta figure out, like, what's
going on with, with her, her parents,

and she's also left with the fact that
her brother is able to leave this place.

Yeah, I was kinda surprised that
this didn't get a little more room

in the episode with Zach leaving.

Like, there was no like Zach
and Grace scene of like, "Huh?-

Yeah … le- you're leaving me here
with Mom, huh, to like deal with

all her shit?" Of like, you know,
there wasn't like a moment there.

There was not a moment
between like Zach and Peter.

Like, it was, it was kind of an odd
just, okay- And he's like, "Bye." Bye.

Like, yeah.

And then Zach says, "I'll
be home for Thanksgiving."

And I'm like- What?

What, like it has gotta
be like, what, May?

And then- I mean, that's
the next major holiday.

I don't know.

Like, I just- People go home
for Thanksgiving and Christmas.

What else you, you- Yeah,
sure … what, Labor Day?

You want Fine.

I don't know.

I just was like, that's so long.

That's so, so s- You want, you, you-

such a long time … you want
Labor Day, Memorial Day, Halloween?

What you want?

Yeah.

I mean like, I don't know.

I would s- I didn't go that far
away for college, but like long

weekends, things like that.

And you're… I, I do not believe
that Zach has the self-sufficient

skills to take care of himself that he
would not need to like stop by- Yeah

and like, I don't know, pick up one
of the 80 gazillion boxes he packed.

Wait, where is Georgetown?

Georgetown is near Washington, DC.

Washington?

Yeah.

So I mean, that's quite a ways away.

It's not as if he can just like
hop on, you know, a, a- Amtrak?

… plane any moment or yeah.

Yeah, he can.

I mean, he could.

I mean, he could, but I mean- It's,
it's not saying that his parents

are rich, and he's not saying
that he doesn't know how to drive.

I'm just saying it's a long…
I was surprised by the time.

Well, and also- I- … it's, it speaks
more to like, "I don't wanna deal with

this anymore. Like, I will come back
for the major holidays- Yeah. Yeah,

yeah … and other than that, like I ain't
trying to interact with this no more."

To which, as me, as the viewer, bye Zach.

Yeah, see ya.

Yeah.

Bye.

Later.

Later, later, guy.

Well.

Uh, luckily they hadn't really
forced the kids down our throat

more, as much as they used to-
This time … in the early seasons.

Yeah.

So, uh, I guess see you around, Zachary.

Uh, we do get a scene of Alicia
kind of just looking at Zach's

room with all the boxes and kind
of like thinking this through.

Uh, she does pour herself a glass of
wine to sit down at the table with Eli,

and she's like, "It's been a weird day."
And Eli says, "It's been a weird year."

Mm. And as Alicia is drinking her wine,
uh, like Eli's looking at her and says,

"Hey, would you wanna run for state's
attorney?" And that's where this ends.

Which, you know, in of
itself is so bizarre.

It's like huh?

I honestly, like I know
I'm very Will-centered.

Mm-hmm.

Like I will say, I completely forgot about
this question, and I have no idea what the

decision about George- It's, I mean, I've,
if I remember correctly, it's gonna be a

plot line for, for a minute next season.

I bet, but I was just like, "Oh, okay.

I guess this is where we're going." But
if I didn't know, didn't know that, I

might think of like, "Eli, very funny."
Like we- Yeah … a weird, a weird way

to end a season but, you know, whatever.

Okay.

Funny little joke at the end.

No, I never probably would think they're
actually gonna roll with this plot

line in season six, but I'm pretty
sure they will if I remember correctly.

I mean, like where else is it gonna go?

So like we've got Diane joining
Florrick/Agos, which is like also

in the Diane Lockhart storyline-
Mm-hmm … important because

she's leaving Lockhart/Gardner.

Right.

A- a- if, you know, we didn't get
confirmation this is going through.

We didn't get confirmation.

That's true.

But let's, let's, let's, let's go
with the assumption that it will,

uh, 'cause I honestly don't remember.

Um, let's go with the assumption it will.

So let's say that this
becomes Lockhart or what?

Uh, Florrick/Agos/Lockhart, whatever.

And then what happens with
the Lockhart/Gardner firm?

Does it just become
Canning and Associates?

Canning and Associates.

Does it become- Yeah … Canning, does
it become Canning, Lee, and Associates?

Oh.

Um, those that remember- My- … will pro-
are probably screaming at us right now

being like, "No, you idiots, it's this,
this, or this. And yes, it's Canning,

Lee, and Associates. You idiots, don't
you remember?" No, we don't remember.

That's the j- joy of doing this again
is remembering things that we forgot.

Um, so is it gonna be like
Canning, Lee, and Associates?

Is it gonna be Canning Associates?

Is it gonna be like is it gonna be
like Canning, Gardner, and Associates?

Like is it, is- We're gonna
use Will's ghost- Yeah.

… for the end of time.

Yeah.

Like keep the Gardner on there
just to spite everybody else.

I don't remember.

Um, listen, w- I'm gonna be honest
with you guys, like the, the, the,

the back half of this show, seasons
six and seven are not looked on

with great, uh, revelry and love.

Um- All I can say is it's getting us
closer and closer to, we are closer to

the good fight- Which I will take Yeah.

We'll see … I will take and
I will soak up and I will love.

I just, I'm, I'm looking for… Yeah.

In real time of this podcast,
we have less than a year left

of The Good Wife to go through.

Um, there is a couple of
storylines I remember that I'm

not looking forward to revisiting.

Um, you know, so we'll, we'll get
into that as we go along, but yeah.

We're going to a br- a new world
here into The, The Good Wife.

More and more stuff that I don't remember.

So we'll, we'll see how, how I
feel, how we feel about it as we,

as we stumble upon these plot lines
that we forgot back in the day.

Yeah.

Yeah, I think it'll be interesting to,
to re-watch, but, um, if you're looking,

I guess I would say, I don't know.

I'm open to being surprised, but my
memory is not one of fond memories of the

last, the last two seasons of the show.

Well, the great part of the- But
again, closer to The Good Fight.

If you can't tell, real hyped.

I love The Good Fight.

Yeah.

Up for The Good Fight.

Love Diane Lockhart.

I'll be watching Diane.

That'll be fun.

But we'll see how it goes.

Yeah, the great part about this podcast
is good or bad, we're gonna shit on it.

Yeah, pretty much.

So- Pretty much … that'll be
fun … we're here for that.

Yeah.

That'll be fun.

Um, but yeah, that's our episode.

That's season five, folks.

Season five.

We're into season six next episode.

Uh, it's gonna be crazy.

Marissa, do you wanna tell the folks
where they can find you and what

you're up to online, et cetera?

Yeah.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

You can find me at itsmemrissag.com.

Got links to all the things, including
our YouTube, so head on over there

so that you can get connected and
subscribed if you are so kind.

Um, that would be fantastic.

You can also find The Good
Pod also on social media.

I'm trying.

Guys, I'm trying.

Like, I'm really… It's really slow
and it's really bad, but if you'd like

to- … get random thoughts from me
and/or Jason, um, once it… You know,

I know he's claimed that he has all
the passwords and he knows how to do

all of the things, but, um, once he's
up to speed on how to do all that,

maybe you'll hear from Jason as well.

Mm. Uh, we're @thegoodpodpod on
Instagram and Threads, so if you wanna

find us there, you can do that as well.

I'm also chatting it up on Whirlwind
Podcasts, talking about Pretty Little

Liars, one previously on at a time.

And then my sister and I are going
back to space fairly soon, uh, talking

about season two of Star Trek: The Next
Generation over on the USS Sisterhood.

Jason, that's what's up with me.

What's going on with you?

There's lots of mess happening.

Just talking mess all over the place.

You know me and Aja Welch
are gonna talk about our mess

over Married at First Sight.

Uh, we're talking about it
on The Perfect Match podcast.

You can find it on the Love at First
Sight feed on Rob Has a Podcast.

You can also find me and her in Aja's
Patreon over at, uh, Perfect Match,

if you look up that up on Patreon.

We are talking all about season
20 of Married at First Sight.

Uh, so that's something to vote your boat.

Come on over, give us a look.

You have a lot of fun, I promise that.

Uh, yeah.

That's it for me.

That's it for Marissa G.
Till next time, stay good.