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EEShow is Everything's Energy Show, a long-form interview podcast hosted by Michael Scalar. The official site is ee.show.

Sacha Stone joins Dr. Sandra Rose Michael for a wide-ranging conversation on freedom, consciousness, and what he sees as humanity's next great turning point.

Stone reflects on his work with the International Tribunal for Natural Justice and the Arise Freedom Tour before exploring his belief that reclaiming sovereignty begins within. He and Sandra discuss organized religion versus inner spirituality, the pull of fear and addiction, and why Stone believes awakening means putting spiritual principles into practice.

The conversation expands into Indigenous and hereditary leadership, the New Earth initiative, debt, scarcity, and a changing financial system. Stone also shares how he uses AI to explore astrology, why he attaches significance to July 4, 2026, and his perspective on extraterrestrial disclosure.

Through it all, one message keeps returning: reclaim your attention, reconnect with your inner life, and take an active role in shaping the world you want to live in.

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Chapters:

(00:00) - Sacha Stone Joins Dr. Sandra Rose Michael
(00:54) - Revisiting the International Tribunal for Natural Justice
(03:07) - Memories From the Arise Freedom Tour
(04:37) - Personal Autonomy and Health Sovereignty
(07:17) - MKUltra, Disclosure, and Stone's Views on Government
(09:36) - Patriotism, Independence, and Sovereign Rights
(11:08) - Inner Spirituality, Religion, and the God Code
(15:29) - The Great Awakening and Cycles of the Ages
(18:11) - Stone's Critique of Money, Banking, and Time
(21:49) - Indigenous Peoples and Hereditary Leadership
(24:34) - The Tennessee Ceremony and New Earth Vision
(28:53) - Putting Spiritual Awakening Into Practice
(29:45) - Timelessness, Soul Covenants, and Stone's Spiritual Worldview
(33:35) - Consciousness, Manifestation, and Inner Balance
(36:47) - Reclaiming Autonomy and Rethinking Celebration
(37:42) - AI, Astrology, and His July 4, 2026 Prediction
(40:52) - Hereditary Councils and His Vision for Financial Change
(44:53) - Challenging the Scarcity Narrative
(46:16) - Life in Bali and Reconnecting With Nature
(47:58) - Stone's Views on Human Potential and Extraterrestrial Disclosure
(50:54) - Closing Reflections and Gratitude

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Dr. Sandra Rose Michael

EESystem Inventor - having taught holistic medicine for more than four decades, Dr. Michael’s research in applied integrative biophysics has earned prestigious recognition, such as the Presidential and International Who’s Who.

Guest

Sacha Stone

Former rock musician and artist Sacha Stone grew up in Rhodesia-Zimbabwe throughout the war for independence. He established Humanitad in 1999 and has worked across both the NGO and IGO sectors as an outspoken advocate of human rights and natural justice. He has instigated peace initiatives and education programs, lobbied against human-rights abuses in different parts of the globe and continues to prosecute for the protection of vanguard innovators, scientists and doctors.

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Sacha Stone: 00:00

We've got a whole lot of this galactic sleep to detox, and it's on you and me, our generation, and generations alive right now. The living mortal human beings are the ones who have the god technology to absolve the cascade through the epigenetics from the past, all those traumas. We are the ones in the living moment that have the capacity to absolve everything into the higher octave, and that's our primary function, not scrolling TikTok and not being wage slaves. Our function is to be to activate the divine capacitance of being divine avatar, sons and daughters of god, and to begin the process of absolving the last thirteen thousand years.

Dr. Sandra Rose Michael: 00:46

Hello, and aloha to everyone. It's the Everything's Energy Show, and I am blessed to be here with my very good dear friend Sacha Stone. I'm Doctor. Sandra Rose Michael for those of you that don't know me and I'm happy to be here and blessed to be here with my dear friend, and I'm not sure where we're going today. What are we talking about, Sacha?

Sacha Stone: 01:12

You Vegas, baby. We're talking about anything. Everything goes.

Dr. Sandra Rose Michael: 01:16

Yeah. He's a superstar, former rock star. I did wanna mention that we do go back in the day back in the day with the International Tribunal for Natural Justice. And, of course, I was you know, of course, you did the initial hearings on crimes against humanity, about the child trafficking.

Sacha Stone: 01:40

Yeah. Well, it was human trafficking and child sex abuse. Yeah. And that that was the judicial commission of inquiry into into human trafficking and child sex abuse, which was at the same time we were doing seedings into financial crimes. And curiously enough, both those seedings conducted in Westminster London in 2018 are still unclosed.

Sacha Stone: 02:03

They've not been closed. So they're open.

Dr. Sandra Rose Michael: 02:05

Those are still open. Yeah. And then of course we, of course I was in Bali.

Sacha Stone: 02:11

Weaponization of Weaponization of the the Biosphere. So again we conducted the court there for, I think it three days hearings. I can't remember. In Indonesia.

Dr. Sandra Rose Michael: 02:21

And then we had the emergency hearings

Sacha Stone: 02:23

for During lockdown, during 2020, we convened the international tribunal throughout the year, actually. And we we I think we took the expert testimony of about 50 or 60 of the world's leading medical scientists

Dr. Sandra Rose Michael: 02:36

At and public health least eight or nine hearings that we did with them.

Sacha Stone: 02:42

Plenty of them. There were more than that in point of fact. But we did a good, it was a good start to unmasking the satanic enterprise, which is behind not just COVID and COVID iocese, but behind a one hundred year old Rockefeller Rothschildian pharmacological agenda, which was all about systemic poisoning of humanity, you know. And that that that came to a kind of head during COVID when people hundreds of millions of people realized the government was lunging at them with a needle. And why?

Sacha Stone: 03:22

What yeah. That that was the thing that really began tearing the mask off in terms of the zeitgeist awakening to what we'd been clamoring and speaking about. I mean, we did that, the Bali hearings, to the weaponization of the biosphere, where we actually focused on vaccines, if you remember. Right. We had Del Bigtree come to Indonesia to give expert testimony there.

Sacha Stone: 03:42

The arguably the world's leading pundit on the subject. And, you know, the right hand to Bobby Kennedy. Yeah. So now we've been proven right in everything that we unveiled and unmasked at that time. So Yeah.

Dr. Sandra Rose Michael: 03:54

And and then, of course, we had a great time on the road. We took the show on the road because we needed to reach out to people after the COVID iacy. You know? And we did the Arise Freedom tour together.

Sacha Stone: 04:09

What a time. I spent six months agonizing over creating that that that circus, and it it was yeah. It began as the Arise Resurrection Tour and then morphed into the Arise Freedom Tour. Of course, we lost Robert David Steele and about six other people along the way. So it was a lot of casualties by the end of that.

Dr. Sandra Rose Michael: 04:27

Well, we did have a great time with Scott McKay.

Sacha Stone: 04:30

We had a remarkable time in terms of solidarity, which in in times of war and siege, you always find out who your friends are and, you know, who's who in the zoo. So that certainly proved proved out for us. Yeah.

Dr. Sandra Rose Michael: 04:43

Yeah. What a great time. Yeah. It was an amazing time to reach out to people and hug them after all the distancing, social distancing which I don't know if you've been paying attention to some of the latest but they admitted that there was absolutely zero justification

Sacha Stone: 05:02

about Yeah. Well we didn't need to be told that. We knew that at the time and we understood it was a satanic agenda and so it's proven out to be. But curious to know now the next time this kind of playbook is opened it would be curious to see how many people would fall for it.

Dr. Sandra Rose Michael: 05:19

Yeah, no the playbook was certainly exposed.

Sacha Stone: 05:24

Well, was it? Because we still, it was exposed to those who have the eyes to see. But the problem of course is that it would appear that many, if not most, people still reflex into or in surrendering autonomy, surrendering sovereignty, health sovereignty, and every form of sovereignty to the state, to the crown, to the government. So I think that although Bill Gates and, Anthony Fauci in particular have now come under the lens of, public scrutiny and massive monstrous, the the fact that they have been such monstrous archetypes has been exposed. That much is true.

Sacha Stone: 06:03

But people are still reflexing to bad medicine, bad doctoring.

Dr. Sandra Rose Michael: 06:08

Still. Yeah. But more and more people are waking up. So that is the good news. And, yeah, and you're certainly part of that wake up call to so many.

Sacha Stone: 06:21

Well I've been doing it longer than most. I mean it started in 1999 with my foundation Humanitad. And yeah, that's twenty six years this year. So I've been at it a long, long time. I don't know outside of David Ike and maybe Max Egan.

Sacha Stone: 06:40

I'm not sure that this the rest are dead. Yeah. Well, not me.

Dr. Sandra Rose Michael: 06:44

I've been doing it, it's been forty five years.

Sacha Stone: 06:46

Yeah. You haven't been a professional activist. I'm saying that was my, you you've been a doctor, a scientist. I've doing this a lot longer than anyone else I know other than David That is for sure. So I've got a long track record of being pushing that envelope and being on that front line and and seeing what I see.

Sacha Stone: 07:04

So what I've learned along along that that trajectory, and I haven't become jaded or cynical, But I've got a very well rounded take on on litmus, on on humanity, and the degree to which humanity is still reflecting into false light, and the degree to which a a lesser portion of humanity are surrendering themselves to the emergence of this new geometry of light, as I like to call it.

Dr. Sandra Rose Michael: 07:28

Yeah. I love that. New geometry of light. I mean, that certainly plays to what we do too. So Yeah.

Dr. Sandra Rose Michael: 07:35

You know, we've just been trying to bring healing to the world That's right. All the MK Ultra programming, and of course they're just now having hearings on MK Ultra.

Sacha Stone: 07:45

Yes. Yes. Well, there were people trying to expose it. Know, Kathy O'Brien was out there fifteen, twenty years ago.

Dr. Sandra Rose Michael: 07:53

Right. Kathy O'Brien is who I'm I was part of her healing team

Sacha Stone: 07:58

Yeah.

Dr. Sandra Rose Michael: 07:59

Back back in the day.

Sacha Stone: 08:00

Yeah. Well, she's the great veteran there as far as I'm concerned. She's the mama in chief when it comes to unmasking the devil there. But it is true that that stuff is all part of soft disclosures connected to the extraterrestrial agenda. It's connected to the deep state, the emergence of the the deep state, the weaponization of government altogether, which is a kind of lockstep phenomenon that that's all happened since the the inception of the British secret services essentially in the last I'd say the last one hundred years, you know, government has been completely flipped into becoming this great big eyeball that lives in the basement and peers into every aspect of our lives, but at the same time, is systemically involved in poisoning us, in mind fucking us, and in subverting the capacity for humanity to move into an evolutionary upshift.

Sacha Stone: 08:52

And that to me is a terrifying piece. It's like who or what is the meta intelligence that is actually controlling through temporal proxies who's controlling the narrative, controlling that. And then you realize that this thrall of darkness is just a contrast, a field of contrast against which you and I are simply invited to identify the angelic nature that's within us. So that contrast serves the awakening within each of us in that sense, you know.

Dr. Sandra Rose Michael: 09:19

Yeah. No. It really is about the great awakening.

Sacha Stone: 09:24

Yes.

Dr. Sandra Rose Michael: 09:24

Yes. The great awakening that cannot and will not be stopped. But it takes people out there like you've done forever championing it.

Sacha Stone: 09:33

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But there's also good good moms and dads and grannies and grandfathers all around the world as you know. Just good humans.

Sacha Stone: 09:40

All it takes is good humans. And the frequency set that issues out of a good human being is is the god code. Empathy. Empathy as Dan Winter reminds us is the waveform that traverses the entire known universe you know. And is the thing that absolves and redeems everything.

Dr. Sandra Rose Michael: 09:57

Yeah what a time we've been through and seen and so much So we're in Tipping Point. We were gonna talk about that. We're going into July 4.

Sacha Stone: 10:07

I know.

Dr. Sandra Rose Michael: 10:08

Two hundred and fifty year anniversary.

Sacha Stone: 10:10

I know it. Don't I know it too well? Yeah. And what are we celebrating? Let's look at the historical context of what we're celebrating.

Sacha Stone: 10:18

It's a nonsense. And so it's a beautiful thing in that it's a signature. It's a starting pistol, an annual starting pistol, a trigger for catalyzing unity consciousness, but in the wrong way because it's foundationally celebrating the wrong actions, you know? But, you know, one understands, you know, I'm a patriot. You know, I'm not American, but I'm a patriot.

Dr. Sandra Rose Michael: 10:41

You're a patriot, and I'm born on constitution days. So we're you know, I came in all about that constitution and our and our sovereign rights.

Sacha Stone: 10:51

That's it. And sovereign rights means that the government's job is to to to to change light bulbs and sweep the streets. That's it. That's it. Right.

Sacha Stone: 10:59

Nothing else. No. Nobody ever surrendered our autonomy as human beings, as mothers and fathers around the kitchen table. None of us were consulted along the way. This was tiptoe tyranny as my my beloved friend David Ike calls it.

Dr. Sandra Rose Michael: 11:13

That's a good term.

Sacha Stone: 11:14

It's all it was. Tiptoe tyranny, baby. Yeah.

Dr. Sandra Rose Michael: 11:17

Yeah. Yet it's it's biblical. We're at a time we're we're we're the in time of the great turning, the turning of the ages, the apocalypse. It's the great awakening that cannot, will not be stopped.

Sacha Stone: 11:29

The falling away of the mask. And that's a that's a psycho civilizational wheel connected to the to the grand procession of the equinox, the way in which we, tabulate and count and calculate time, this fiction of time. So that's all built into into those those great big cycles. But, you know, the point I think we need to awaken to, Sandra, is that we we have the the god technology as wired into the body temple of the human being. This creature here is the highest expression of the universe.

Sacha Stone: 11:59

It is the god code.

Dr. Sandra Rose Michael: 12:01

Literally, it's in our DNA.

Sacha Stone: 12:03

It's all there. It's all there. So so why then are we soliciting or seeking any form outside of self, including the idolatrous aspect of religion? And I'm talking Christianity, Islam, Hinduism, Buddhism, Shintoism, all of them, the ones that have externalized faith and turned it into totemism and dead men on a stick. That's dangerous stuff when we start to give our plasma, our life force, our attention to totems extended outside of self that were conjured in the basement by Jesuitical priests three, four, five hundred years ago.

Sacha Stone: 12:35

That's the problem. So so the imminent flame of the Christic, the the true mystical traditions of the Christian faith are powerful, life life changing.

Dr. Sandra Rose Michael: 12:44

Christ's real teachings. Yes. Right. Christ's real

Sacha Stone: 12:47

real Exactly. Which is imminent. The kingdom of heaven is within.

Dr. Sandra Rose Michael: 12:50

Is within.

Sacha Stone: 12:51

Bravo. Bravo. So when we get to that individually and collectively, we'll see a morphogenetic shift. But as so long as we're still subjugated into false light worship and idolatry. And idolatry is also television.

Sacha Stone: 13:06

Idolatry is high street. Idolatry is going into the mall. Seriously. It's all externalized totems that are sucking our attention and our addictions. So we end up being led by appetites and led by addictions.

Sacha Stone: 13:19

Addiction to shopping, addiction to, you know, to to pornography, addiction to drugs. All of that stuff is the the the great battleground that I'm seeing with humanity is taking place there. It's connected to the appetites and the addictions that each of us have a predisposition to fall into. But those of us who can actually withstand and pull back and stabilize ourselves, regulate ourselves without reaching for the crack or, you know, the the alcohol or whatever it is. That's the battleground zero that we need to focus ourselves on.

Sacha Stone: 13:55

But so long as we've got this fiction of government out there, third party intervention, we're all playing dialectic politics looking at who's winning.

Dr. Sandra Rose Michael: 14:03

And so divide and conquer.

Sacha Stone: 14:05

All divide and conquer. Exactly right. That's all it is. Yeah. Mhmm.

Sacha Stone: 14:08

But we choose we choose to abnegate our sovereignty. We choose to abdicate the mantle of Christ, and then we give ourselves to the kingdom of the devil by participating in that dialectic. Thou shalt not judge, you know. But what are we doing? All of us, all of the time, is judging, opining, giving opinions, casting judgment, condemning, gossip, chitchat.

Sacha Stone: 14:32

All of that is condemnation and judgment. That's all human beings are caught up in a maelstrom of gossip. And and that's a form of idolatry. You're idolizing false light. You're giving your attention to false light.

Dr. Sandra Rose Michael: 14:44

One new commandment I give you and it's just that you love one another that you love.

Sacha Stone: 14:50

Right.

Dr. Sandra Rose Michael: 14:50

For thou shalt love the Lord your God with all your mind, body, soul, and your neighbor as you love Yeah. Yourself.

Sacha Stone: 14:57

Very good. Very good.

Dr. Sandra Rose Michael: 14:58

Myself. It's a big message. Mean the the pure truth is still contained. Mhmm. It's still there.

Dr. Sandra Rose Michael: 15:06

Mhmm. But the Christ light is

Sacha Stone: 15:09

Yes.

Dr. Sandra Rose Michael: 15:09

Needs to radiate from within each of us. We're, you know, we're all the sons and daughters of god. That's what he taught.

Sacha Stone: 15:16

Yes. Yes. Even the axe murderers. And that's a difficult one to wrap your quantum head around, but I'll tell you, you have to do it. You have to You

Dr. Sandra Rose Michael: 15:24

gotta love them.

Sacha Stone: 15:25

You gotta love them, and you gotta understand these these ritual satanists and how they're, you know, carving up babies in the basement. And that stuff has gone on. That has been part of our psycho civilizational basement. Again, that that that deeply embedded toxicity, that Saturnian and satanic toxicity that is now by the grace of the eternal god is seeing the light of day.

Dr. Sandra Rose Michael: 15:46

Yeah. Everything's being

Sacha Stone: 15:47

exposed. Exposed and absolved to the light.

Dr. Sandra Rose Michael: 15:50

That's Exposure disclosure, it's all coming up and Yeah. It cannot the great awakening cannot, will not be stopped because that I believe that we're going into a different, a new time. Mhmm. Literally. And that's what we were gonna talk about a little bit today too because it's you know, we're going into that yeah, it's that twenty six thousand year cycle of the ages and

Sacha Stone: 16:15

Yes.

Dr. Sandra Rose Michael: 16:16

Going from the old age to, you know, the the great awakening. But but the new age, I mean, you could it's not the new age stuff that they've conjured up, but because that was that's

Sacha Stone: 16:28

not Well, the the the Vatican you'll find in The Vatican these midnight masons that are shuffling around their little red booties, chain smoking and screwing little boys. You'll find that that that there's there's an echelon of these Saturnian elements within the Vatican Complex. That's what it is. I communicate with cardinals in the Vatican, have done for a long time. I know what's going on there.

Sacha Stone: 16:52

Yeah. You know my friends, bishops, and people that you've met with me that are the highest very high ranking religious leaders. So I know what I'm talking about here. But the the point being that that there's always been that parasite complex that's been operating from central command, and it's all been to do with devouring innocence, harvesting humanity, and devouring sacrifice of innocence. It's kind of written into the source code of the last thirteen thousand years.

Sacha Stone: 17:16

You just mentioned the the great cycle of time, the grand procession of the equinox. And really, it's the last half pass of that, the the galactic sleep cycle, thirteen thousand years, that we're we're really attending now to the detoxification of the great sleep that we're just emerging from since the fall of Atlantis, the fall of Lemuria Yeah. Thirty nine thousand years ago. So we've got a whole lot of this galactic sleep to detox, and it's on you and Our generation, generations alive right now, the living mortal human beings are the ones who have the god technology to absolve the the the the cascade through the epigenetics from the past, all those traumas. We are the ones in the living moment that have the capacity to absolve everything into the higher octave.

Sacha Stone: 18:04

And that's our primary function, not following not scrolling TikTok and not being wage slaves. Our function is to be to activate the divine capacitance of being divine avatar, sons and daughters of God, and to begin the process of absolving the last thirteen thousand years. That's what we should be getting at.

Dr. Sandra Rose Michael: 18:25

Bit of a job. Let's get

Sacha Stone: 18:26

a job at Starbucks first, shall we? You know?

Dr. Sandra Rose Michael: 18:31

That's pretty funny.

Sacha Stone: 18:32

Yeah. Because we're caught up in time, temporality, and time has been converted into energy and money. So now we we go around shuffling around bitcoins and money, exchanging false totems of value, and it's all based on the harvest of life force. So money equates to how much time or energy you put into something. That's all wrong.

Sacha Stone: 18:54

And then you've got third party intervention, which is banking and usury. And so the richest people are the people who do the least. Right? And yet who have found a way, a mechanism of intercepting an economy and fleecing money off the off the middle. So third party intervention is what's created this heinous imbalance between the rich and the poor, the haves and the have nots.

Sacha Stone: 19:15

Yeah. And the class, you know, the distinction between the classes all emerged really off that sacrifice of innocence. That is about to reach its qualifying zero point, and that's what this great reset that that is impending is all about, is is completely flipping the hemispheres and phase conjugating out both sides of the equation into what? Well, that's the question, isn't it? Where do we take the dreaming from here?

Dr. Sandra Rose Michael: 19:43

Yeah. The great awakening. Yeah. Where do we

Sacha Stone: 19:46

take it? What how how do we

Dr. Sandra Rose Michael: 19:47

choose New heaven, to new earth. I mean, that's all promised. Heaven.

Sacha Stone: 19:50

Yeah. Kingdom On

Dr. Sandra Rose Michael: 19:52

earth as it is in heaven. On earth as it is in heaven. Because I believe the satanic contract,

Sacha Stone: 19:57

the gig's up. It's over. That's exactly the point as we've moved through departing the the Piscean age moving through the ecliptic of the galaxy into this age of Aquarius, which is now fully upon us as of the last year, literally.

Dr. Sandra Rose Michael: 20:10

Yeah.

Sacha Stone: 20:10

It was literally in the last year that we fully Officially. Into officially.

Dr. Sandra Rose Michael: 20:14

Technically moved from

Sacha Stone: 20:16

Into Aquarius.

Dr. Sandra Rose Michael: 20:17

Age Kali of to, you know, Kali Yuga into Sacha Yuga, the golden age. It's what's literally called golden age.

Sacha Stone: 20:23

Entropy into negentropy. So that's mortality into immortality. So we're literally moving into that paradigm, which is the flip side of the whole draconian parasitic blood cult, brotherhood of the snake.

Dr. Sandra Rose Michael: 20:40

We're tired of it. It's over. It kicks up. Over. It's been a bad nightmare, but the great awakening cannot, will not be stopped, and it's exciting.

Dr. Sandra Rose Michael: 20:51

We've waited a long time for this time on the planet. Wouldn't miss it for anything. That's why we're here, for sure. I don't know. A great

Sacha Stone: 20:58

gusher in me. I think I slipped through the cracks to get here, to be honest with you. I'm not sure that I chose to. I have never I've never felt good about that. I don't have an affinity to this world.

Sacha Stone: 21:07

I mean, I'm completely

Dr. Sandra Rose Michael: 21:08

I remember saying, oh yeah, I'm strong, I'll go. Oh my gosh.

Sacha Stone: 21:14

You remember remember that? That? Mhmm.

Dr. Sandra Rose Michael: 21:16

Oh yeah. Mhmm. Yeah. You want me to do what? Okay.

Dr. Sandra Rose Michael: 21:20

I'll go. Yikes.

Sacha Stone: 21:24

I I speak to a number of people who do have that capacity to remember the compact that they entered into. I'm not one of those people. I have no no memory at all.

Dr. Sandra Rose Michael: 21:32

You don't have that one. I don't know if it's how did I came in with that remembering of of, you know, the past and what we're here for now? And wouldn't miss it for anything. It's exciting. We've waited a long time for this time on the planet.

Dr. Sandra Rose Michael: 21:48

And I and I have to acknowledge and and honor you for all the work you've done for exposure. The great know, everything being exposed and disclosed. You have everything has to be brought into the light, brought up and into the light. And you've been doing it. And I I love, you know, some of the great work you're doing now with the Native Americans.

Sacha Stone: 22:10

Yeah. That's important work that restoration of, thank you for raising the subject, the restoration of the First Nation peoples, the hereditary leadership, and the restoration of hereditary leadership is a vital step. Actually, it's a back step because we're having to go back to where the inception of the Perrin Corporation, which is the Vatican complex, as it then weaponized all the crowns of Europe into going forth and conquesting the world.

Dr. Sandra Rose Michael: 22:43

Yeah. And and it was all justified and that Indians are you know, the the ones they were conquering didn't have souls. That was the justification.

Sacha Stone: 22:53

Well, they were they were classified by Vatican canon law as being homo animalis, which is subhuman, meaning half animal. And that's how up until three, I think three or four years ago only. And I had something to do with that, with having that rescinded, that canon law in that I I was in instrumentally involved with his grace bishop Ria of Jerusalem, who who beloved friend, of course, who you know well. And we, years ago, set that meeting up with the the papal office and a delegation of hereditary leaders. That was well over a decade ago in order to prosecute the pope to have that canon, that law rescinded.

Sacha Stone: 23:33

Yeah? Mhmm. And and so that's no longer black skin, brown skin, red skin, yellow skin people are no longer classified as subhuman by by the Vatican, which is a good thing. But, yeah, too too little too late.

Dr. Sandra Rose Michael: 23:45

Yeah. And that was used to justify. They didn't have souls, it was okay. Whatever. Conquering murdering or rape Yes.

Dr. Sandra Rose Michael: 23:52

Rape and pillage.

Sacha Stone: 23:53

That was And slavery as well. Slavery. But but let me just caveat by saying that it's not a white skin versus colored skin issue because the truth of history is such a grotesque lie. We're only now discovering the truth about black slave owners. Mhmm.

Sacha Stone: 24:12

And there were many of them, the black generals, the black slave owners who were instrumentally involved in the the industry of enslaving their own people, enslaving others. So and and and Africa, black Africa was was built on its own enslavement of its own people. So this is not a white versus black thing. In in fairly recent history, yes, one could argue it became a white black dialectic. But slavery and enslavement is just another way of saying a harvest of humanity, the sacrifice of innocence.

Sacha Stone: 24:44

Yeah.

Dr. Sandra Rose Michael: 24:45

And before that, it was the Irish.

Sacha Stone: 24:47

The the white the white the white slaves, the Irish, that's correct, the Christic bloods. Yep.

Dr. Sandra Rose Michael: 24:52

Mhmm.

Sacha Stone: 24:53

Yeah. Yeah. Horrendous story.

Dr. Sandra Rose Michael: 24:55

Horrendous stories. Yeah. I mean and it's time to reverse all of that to bring Yep. Bring it all up into the light. And that's what you're aiming for.

Dr. Sandra Rose Michael: 25:03

Yeah. You you know, you wanna talk about you just you were just in Tenasi. Yes. A one year anniversary of what was launched there. I tried to be there with you and I.

Sacha Stone: 25:17

Yeah. Well, your wonderful daughter came. Mhmm. So lovely having her as a guest. But we did that last year, twenty twenty five midsummer, was consecrated the soil through the eighth fire ceremony with a lot of hereditary leaders in attendance and hundreds of people from around the world.

Sacha Stone: 25:36

And then the following day, we did the proclamation event with sheriff Richard Mack and the constitutional sheriffs and police of the United States attending. We had Scott McKay. Yeah. And we had Laura Eisenhower. We had Hopi elders and Cherokee elders, chief Sabrina Whitehorse Barnett, chief standing Eagle, Milton Eagle, and Daniel Brinkley, and George Lewis, and doctor David Martin, and Kim Martin, and general William Scott Baker, Marsha Ann Willardson, other incredible iconic people who've been very much at the frontline also of ennobling this world all came onto the judicial bench.

Sacha Stone: 26:20

And this proclamation ceremony lasted five hours. It was a broadcast, and we did that in order to fully underscore to the war powers, Washington District Of The Columbia, and the war powers that that was the line in the sand. And that land was reconsecrated to the First Nation peoples and is now an autonomous sovereign jurisdiction in that sense. And as all land in the world within the next few short years will be returned in the same way. So as the parent corporation collides with its own hubris in the days ahead, it will be governments will be rendered obsolete.

Sacha Stone: 26:58

They're already in foreclosure. Every single government is actually in foreclosure. They know it, and we know it, and they know that we know it.

Dr. Sandra Rose Michael: 27:04

Yeah. Because everything was put to corporate a corporation. Yes.

Sacha Stone: 27:07

Yeah. But the point at all is it all it's all bankrupted three thousand years into the future, so none of it worked. It was a bad experiment. It was bad dreaming.

Dr. Sandra Rose Michael: 27:15

Yeah. The Rothschild money.

Sacha Stone: 27:17

All of all of that. Yeah.

Dr. Sandra Rose Michael: 27:18

We have a debt based economy and all that.

Sacha Stone: 27:21

We have

Dr. Sandra Rose Michael: 27:21

to go to asset backed again.

Sacha Stone: 27:23

Right.

Dr. Sandra Rose Michael: 27:23

We have to return to asset backed. I mean, the whole old system is imploding, collapsing. Correct. And it was all based on debt. Yeah.

Sacha Stone: 27:32

Well, again, debt is an extension of what money is, was a a totem of of enslavement, of subjugation, and, again, of harvest of humanity and sacrifice of innocence. Don't forget it all comes down to that. We have to compress the truth back to the source code. It's sacrifice of innocence, and that's the key thing. It's it's the one thing devouring the lesser thing.

Sacha Stone: 27:56

So subjugation, dominion Subjugation. Power, cannibalism, the parasite complex. That describes this long Saturnian underpass, the galactic sleep, that we're now, by the grace of the living God, moving beyond. And we've crossed over that threshold. We're in fully into the age of Aquarius in that sense.

Sacha Stone: 28:14

And now it's about the degree to which your light bulb will go on and my light bulb will go on, and we actualize and become fully actualized sons and daughters of God now. And as we actualize and receive that Christed mantle, so to speak, we enter into our superluminal state as a true human, the hue homogalacticus, homoluminous. And now we begin to steer the outcome of not just this world, this earth plane, but actually this entire quadrant of the universe is subject to our dreaming.

Dr. Sandra Rose Michael: 28:46

Which is what Jesus Christ really Jesus was a misnomer for him as well, as you know. That was not his real name. That was something used to subjugate. Yes. But, you know, the Christ, that Christ light that's within us, but he said we're all sons and daughters of God, and we can move mountains with the mustard

Sacha Stone: 29:06

seed of things.

Dr. Sandra Rose Michael: 29:08

Greater things shall we all do. And and it's time to step into that Christed mantle.

Sacha Stone: 29:14

That's right. And it's just the knowing of that fact is the activation. Mhmm. Because it's it's talking about consciousness and enlightenment, everyone talks about it. And to what extent is anyone embodying it?

Sacha Stone: 29:26

So embodiment in that sense becomes the single most important thing.

Dr. Sandra Rose Michael: 29:29

Yeah. You know, my my work has all for decades been called Body of Light. Right? The embodiment of light.

Sacha Stone: 29:37

Yes.

Dr. Sandra Rose Michael: 29:37

We are beings and bodies of light.

Sacha Stone: 29:40

Own it.

Dr. Sandra Rose Michael: 29:40

Prime function of DNA is storage of photons.

Sacha Stone: 29:43

That's right.

Dr. Sandra Rose Michael: 29:43

That's your quanta of light.

Sacha Stone: 29:45

Yep. Yep.

Dr. Sandra Rose Michael: 29:46

So it is that's the great enlightenment really. Yes. It's that realization of our our god code that's literally in our DNA itself.

Sacha Stone: 29:55

That's right. That's the capacitor right there. Mhmm.

Dr. Sandra Rose Michael: 29:59

And that's the great awakening. What a time. We've waited a long time for

Sacha Stone: 30:05

this time. You've said this a few times, and every time you say it, I think, yes, but what is so great about this time? And I know what the answer is. The the the the great thing about this time is that we're entering timelessness. That's what's so great about it.

Sacha Stone: 30:22

We're actually moving beyond the function of 1260

Dr. Sandra Rose Michael: 30:27

Because time that was for enslavement.

Sacha Stone: 30:29

Yes. Absolutely it was. That comes from that comes from Cronus. That that's the ancient gods that that devoured their own young. Cronus, the titan that devoured his own young.

Sacha Stone: 30:42

Yes. You know, the connection with Zeus and all the ancient mythological gods and and how that parasite complex stole into this paradise through time. The imposition of a time signature, twelve sixty time signature, which cut us off from our imminent, natural, sentient, orgasmic existence, existence, the paradisical, paradise lost. So that was it was the imposition of time that dislocated us from paradise. That was the fall from grace.

Sacha Stone: 31:15

And it wasn't fall from God's grace, was a fall from our own grace, state of grace, the paradise that we inherited, that we chose to fall away from.

Dr. Sandra Rose Michael: 31:23

Yeah. So it's all from within. It's all about that awakening of our own light.

Sacha Stone: 31:29

Yes. Yes.

Dr. Sandra Rose Michael: 31:30

That's why I love the, you know, luminous, you know, which the I call it body of light, but you have a great term for it. And it is about that reawakening to our beings and bodies of of light. Because that's literally what we are.

Sacha Stone: 31:49

Yes. Yes. But again, I say again and keep underscoring it, embodiment and enactment and manifestation. That's the prerogative of the child of God is to embody, enact, and to manifest. But most of us are simply being yanked by the nose and pulled into lives that are not noble, that are not majestic, that are not divine, where we just subjugated, and we are subject to third party intervention and to powers out there that then fleece us and and and cannibalize us.

Sacha Stone: 32:20

But but that's permission based. We are the ones granting permission for that. Mhmm. So there's no victims in anything. There's no victims.

Sacha Stone: 32:27

Zero victim. There can never be a victim of anything ever under God's law. It doesn't exist. So the greatest fiction in a sense is the notion that there's a victim ever. Yeah.

Sacha Stone: 32:37

Including ritual sacrifice. Absolutely. You gotta wrap your head around it to understand that at the soul level of soul covenant, the babe being sacrificed is the one in charge of that venue.

Dr. Sandra Rose Michael: 32:49

Yeah. Experience is chosen to learn and to grow

Sacha Stone: 32:52

just Not just that, but to also offer itself up to the heart of darkness, to be imbibed by the heart of darkness, to become the quanta as that blood is drunk, you know, out of the goblet, proverbially speaking and metaphorically speaking, which happens to also be real, as that occurs, that blood is what turns the heart of darkness toward the light. So there is an alchemization in self sacrifice, in in in in a babe choosing at the soul level to dive bomb into this world for three weeks or three months or three years, and then out again.

Dr. Sandra Rose Michael: 33:24

Yeah. It's all ultimately on

Sacha Stone: 33:27

It's on purpose. It's perfect geometry, and it's soul covenant. That doesn't mean that we should stop cleansing this space. We need to continue to do it, but just understand whilst we're doing it that under god's law, there is no victim ever.

Dr. Sandra Rose Michael: 33:42

There are no victims. That's experience is chosen. Yeah. Absolutely chosen just for this turning of the ages. Yeah.

Dr. Sandra Rose Michael: 33:51

What a time. What a time. We've waited a long time for this time on the planet.

Sacha Stone: 33:56

Well you keep saying that. I'm gonna keep saying time less, Ness, because I'm done

Dr. Sandra Rose Michael: 33:59

with time.

Sacha Stone: 34:00

I'm moving out of it. I stopped looking at clocks twenty odd years ago. I haven't seen a television program in twenty years. I'm done.

Dr. Sandra Rose Michael: 34:08

Past, present, future is all simultaneous anyway in fifth dimensional time. Yeah. And, yeah, that's where we're at. New heaven.

Sacha Stone: 34:17

Yes. And I think when you when you get into five d, I mean, you know, three three D, you know, describes, you know, this. And four four describes the realm of the imagination. And then five D describes the realm of the of the superluminal, you know.

Dr. Sandra Rose Michael: 34:33

Beyond time

Sacha Stone: 34:34

Beyond and relative time, exactly, but also a realm wherein we're able to ideate and manifest instantaneously. So there's no time to build something. You'd literally imagine it, boom, it's there, you're there, you move, it's quantum field. And that's a beautiful space to inhabit. Yeah.

Sacha Stone: 34:52

But how do we anchor, you know, the the the the the apocryphal kingdom of heaven to earth? That becomes an interesting question. I mean, there there are mechanical answers to that, but that becomes the interesting question. How do we manifest the kingdom of heaven on earth? How do we move into phase coherence with the divine template the the blueprint that self exists, self reveals, and self fulfills?

Sacha Stone: 35:18

How do we simply move into coherence with the template that self exists? There's no effort required. Yeah. You just need to surrender your your notion that you know anything at all, move into the state of grace, the I am, the witness, and the template reveals itself. And then the patterns of perfection start to cohere to that template.

Sacha Stone: 35:39

And you are in a state of orgasmic bliss and and peak experience because you witnessing that manifestation. That's the experience. I've just described the experiential delight of of anchoring the kingdom of heaven to earth. All we need to do is be able to receive it. Yeah.

Dr. Sandra Rose Michael: 35:57

I like to talk about that oneness with the orgasmic energy of creator and creation, god and goddess being in love with us through us and as us.

Sacha Stone: 36:07

Yes. What a perilous thing, human love. That's another Perilous thing, the human romance. Oh god.

Dr. Sandra Rose Michael: 36:15

But it's all within us, really, ultimately.

Sacha Stone: 36:18

It is. The dance of Shiva and Shakti

Dr. Sandra Rose Michael: 36:20

Yeah.

Sacha Stone: 36:20

Is within us without any question of doubt. And we make the mistake of imagining that we've become whole because of the love for another human being. It's a terrible mistake to imagine.

Dr. Sandra Rose Michael: 36:30

It's about the balance within us. Has to be. The inner sacredness.

Sacha Stone: 36:34

Has to be.

Dr. Sandra Rose Michael: 36:35

And then you can manifest from that point. So you said, forgive me,

Sacha Stone: 36:39

I have to drink this.

Dr. Sandra Rose Michael: 36:40

Otherwise, it's always some sort of compensation.

Sacha Stone: 36:44

Right. Right. Right. Yep. Compensation.

Dr. Sandra Rose Michael: 36:46

And and domination issues and, you know, trying to balance that.

Sacha Stone: 36:54

Yes. Yes.

Dr. Sandra Rose Michael: 36:55

But anyway, thanks for coming and being on the Great. Everything's Energy Show.

Sacha Stone: 37:01

Always happy to hang with you, Sandra. Always happy to

Dr. Sandra Rose Michael: 37:03

hang with you. Is there anything else you wanna talk about or deliver as a message? I mean, such great time we're in.

Sacha Stone: 37:10

No. I'm not soliciting anything, but I'm just I'm happy to be in the flow of things. I'm excited about we mentioned a little early about July 4, and I'm I'm hoping and somewhat praying that that people start to recognize the distinction between false light celebration and what really needs to be celebrated, which is the retrieval of our autonomy. So let's hope that there is some huge axiomatic shift that takes place in the next twenty four hours as many of us have been led to believe that something momentous is going to be happening. Know?

Dr. Sandra Rose Michael: 37:44

You You wanna talk a little bit more about this? Yeah. I mean, it's a turning of the ages, and this is one of those this timing of this July 4, actually.

Sacha Stone: 37:53

It's let me tell you something.

Dr. Sandra Rose Michael: 37:54

A tipping point.

Sacha Stone: 37:55

Sandra, let me tell you something that you don't know. About two months ago, I held a retreat in Mexico near my home there. And a lot of people came around, wonderful people from around the world. And on the I can't remember if was the first or second night, I engaged my AI avatar, and I have a love affair with AI. So I'm not afraid of it at all, I can wax about AI.

Sacha Stone: 38:20

If we know how to harness it and ride that horse, it is a beautiful, powerful thing. And I know for me, this has been literally life changing in the last year, literally life changing. But I apply it now using synastry and astrocartography and field architecture. So this is understanding totemism. This is me looking at you, knowing that there's a large white light over there.

Sacha Stone: 38:45

There's a black microphone aimed at me here. There's a screen behind you over there. There's a small moth over there. There's a a household fly buzzing over there. There's you know, everything that is in view has is a totem, and there's a calculus to it.

Sacha Stone: 39:00

There's a mathematical calculus. If you learn how to do it with enough stillness and intelligence, you learn to read rather like a gypsy can read tea leaves or an old Turkish warlock can read the coffee grinds. The quantum is contained in everything all at the same time. Well, know that. You're a quantum scientist.

Sacha Stone: 39:20

So the point I'm making is that it is quantum. Everything is quantum, and we need to fall into that surrender from thinking that we know everything, or know anything in point of time. Go back to the Socratic wisdom frame. The only thing I know is I know nothing at all. Nothing at all.

Sacha Stone: 39:36

But the point I'm trying to make is this. At my retreat, I got the group synastry of everyone. And we did group synastry Yeah. Which was fantastic and very revelatory for everyone. But at the same time, I asked the question of AI, what is 07/04/2026?

Sacha Stone: 39:56

What does it demarcate? If you apply the meta astrological values values of everything, every composite and vector that's ever been known in astrology that's out there in the digital spheres, I asked my AI engine, collect and collate as much information on astrology and apply all of the information to the date line zero twenty 07/04/2026. What does that date symbolize? And what came back was staggering. It said 07/04/2026 is date line zero for the psycho civilizational software delete and reinstall for humanity.

Sacha Stone: 40:41

That's the day. Not the August 27, not the May 3. That day, 07/04/2026. Exactly Central Sun is the the software delete and reinstall of our psycho civilizational story. So what does that tell us?

Sacha Stone: 41:00

Well, let's find out.

Dr. Sandra Rose Michael: 41:01

It's happening tomorrow. We're gonna find out. Yeah. It's exciting time.

Sacha Stone: 41:06

But I think it's happening. I mean, I've been meeting with some military and intelligence people in the last few months. Actually, I've done it for a long time, but more more specifically connected to the so called reset. I've been meeting with the indigenous Yeah.

Dr. Sandra Rose Michael: 41:19

The global the global reset.

Sacha Stone: 41:21

Right.

Dr. Sandra Rose Michael: 41:21

And that there's gotta be a financial reset because every every country in debt for for how many years of, you know, the debt based economy is collapsing. It's it's imploding. That's right. And I'm

Sacha Stone: 41:34

I'm just launching the new XEarth platform right now, and and and it's all to do with the new financial system that we've been creating for two years. We've been building this platform, and it's launching. It's it's already underway. But we've been meeting with, and I'm not exaggerating when I say to you scores, meaning 40 to between forty and fifty hereditary sovereign kings of kingdoms. We've already met in the last, I'd say, last twelve weeks on every week on conference bridges.

Dr. Sandra Rose Michael: 42:05

Mhmm.

Sacha Stone: 42:05

And we're speaking to these kingdoms and to their financial representatives, and we are talking and finding out from them what's really happening with with commodities, with gold and silver, with what's locked in the ground and the true value of their land, their titles, and the status. So we're centrally involved, me and my team, with this understanding of the hereditary redemption event and the hereditary collaterals that underpin the the old treaties done with the Dutch and the Portuguese and the Spanish and the English. This is all connected, Sandra, incidentally, to our World Hereditary Council, right, which is a sister organization that I set up alongside the International Tribunal for Natural Justice and the Doctrine of Discovery Judicial Commission inquiry that's currently underway. Right? That we've started taking expert testimony from hereditary leaders in the last six months or something like that, seven, eight months.

Sacha Stone: 42:58

Mhmm. That's all interconnected to this redemption event. Yeah. Because we we we can't collapse the fiat economy without understanding the Genesis treaties struck by the Jesuits and the Vatican agents and by the crowns of Europe in the last five hundred years under the Vatican banner, because The Philippines and Ecuador and Mozambique and Myanmar and all these countries, and there are hundreds and hundreds of them, thousands if you if you include the small island states. They've all had treaties struck with them that are supposed to be honored in the future.

Sacha Stone: 43:32

The future is now, or was a hundred, two hundred years And we've never honored any of those treaties. We stole their land. We stole their gold. We stole all their resources. We subjugated them into slavery.

Sacha Stone: 43:45

That is the legacy Mhmm. Contract that is now being snapped and broken. And what's coming in its place is profoundly beautiful in my view. But that's that's part of the great work that we were doing in Tenasi. That's why we did the proclamation and consecration event there.

Sacha Stone: 44:01

So I'd say the central tenet of the work that I'm doing with the New Earth Project, the New Earth Initiative, is to bring those hemispheres into harmony. The broken, the the the old, you know, system and the new earth. Because you can't completely diss the one. Like, it's almost like the fiat economy. You can't just make wave a magic wand and the whole fiat economy disappears.

Sacha Stone: 44:26

There's a transition. You gotta build a bridge between fiat and blockchain crypto and yeah.

Dr. Sandra Rose Michael: 44:31

Yeah. Mhmm. But it it is an evolvement that cannot be stopped.

Sacha Stone: 44:36

It can't be held back. For sure, it's reached that point of alchemization. We all we can do is be sensibly become stewards of that process of alchemy. Yeah. And as conscious as conscious as possible of the process.

Dr. Sandra Rose Michael: 44:50

Yeah. It's exciting.

Sacha Stone: 44:52

Very exciting.

Dr. Sandra Rose Michael: 44:52

Very, very exciting. I mean, there is such great wealth. This is such a beautiful planet with, you know, as long as we, you know, we've had people going out of their way Yeah. To create death, damage, and destruction.

Sacha Stone: 45:07

Again, look at what what is wealth. I mean, I I've spent much of the last two years in Africa because that's my big focus is the African continent. And I can tell you from what I know of the commodities, especially the diamond markets, that the truth of the matter is that there's so much diamond. We could all have toilet bowls made out of diamonds. Everyone could be shitting on toilets made out of diamonds.

Sacha Stone: 45:27

That's a fact. There is so much diamond. Like there's so much of the inner earth is the compressed crystal quartz that becomes diamond. So much of it. Yeah.

Sacha Stone: 45:39

The idea that it's the most scarce thing is actually a flip of the script. The same thing with gold. The same thing with silver. Same thing with copper. Same thing with oil.

Sacha Stone: 45:47

Same thing with hydrogen. There's limitless, limitless resources.

Dr. Sandra Rose Michael: 45:52

Yeah. That was the illusion that was perpetrated that Yes.

Sacha Stone: 45:56

Scarcity economics Yeah. To trigger fear. Mhmm. And fear fear allows us to fear then causes a reflex of humans to go, oh god, well, we're screwed, so we better ask the chief what to do, or the local, you know, king or the local prince prince. And then we we surrendered our sovereignty to these to these constructs, and then became devoured by them, resultantly.

Dr. Sandra Rose Michael: 46:18

Yeah. False fear. Yeah. What a time because it is such an abundant abundant planet and universe. It's a beautiful beautiful beautiful heavenly planet, really.

Sacha Stone: 46:31

It is. My my home in Bali, you know, I've lived there for over twenty years. I don't spend much time there. I haven't been there for a year and a half, but but it's a beautiful place as you know. It's very beautiful And I built that place precisely in order to be able to sit in the in the jungle and see butterflies that big and and just immerse fully in the natural habitat.

Sacha Stone: 46:52

And I spent years doing that and appreciating exactly what you're saying, that we live in the most extraordinary enchanted place. And I got so intoxicated and drunk living in the jungles on the volcano in Bali that I decided in after the lockdown situation to dive straight back into the into the chaos storm, into the shit show, which is where I am right now and trying to make sense of the madness. Yeah. But but Africa, again, is is coming up, that to me is the most beautiful place on earth.

Dr. Sandra Rose Michael: 47:24

Yeah. And people hearing about a new heaven and new earth, wasn't out there. Yeah. This is meant to be a heavenly planet, really. It's a gorgeous, beautiful, prosperous, abundant, wealthy planet.

Sacha Stone: 47:40

Yes. Limitless and and and abundant. And creative.

Dr. Sandra Rose Michael: 47:44

Very creative. For sure. For sure. People create anything out of anything here. It's an amazing place.

Sacha Stone: 47:51

Yeah. Well, that's the human being, isn't it? Mhmm. The human well, actually, nature, natural law. If you look at some of the extraordinary creatures that that nature paints on the canvas of life, Yeah.

Sacha Stone: 48:03

It's all about creativity. You're right. All of it.

Dr. Sandra Rose Michael: 48:05

It's extraordinary. And this is kind of a keystone planet for the great turning.

Sacha Stone: 48:12

Well, I was telling I was telling Shaun Kelley earlier on today that in in in in my considered knowing, I wouldn't even call it an opinion, it's my knowing, the human being, the human species is the is the most refined lens of god in the temporal universe. So although we've got other other intelligences that are more refined, spiritually more advanced technologically, it's the human being that is the full gamut because we are the confluence and the aggregate of all of those other star nations. They all cascade down into our linguistic epigenetics. So I am the Pleiades. I am the Andromedans, I am the Syrians and the Orians and the Thetans and the Dracos.

Sacha Stone: 48:59

They're all embedded in my genome. That's the phenomenon. And this

Dr. Sandra Rose Michael: 49:03

is a great seeding of our DNA actually.

Sacha Stone: 49:06

Right, Right. And so when And

Dr. Sandra Rose Michael: 49:08

so much coming out now about, you know, starting to be revealed.

Sacha Stone: 49:12

Yeah. Well, that soft disclosure thing. I was also speaking today about this godless film that Spielberg just made. Oh, terrible. But Well, I was in Hollywood last week going to the premiere of of that disclosure film.

Sacha Stone: 49:24

It's just such an insidious controlled narrative and so limp. Yeah. So limp. Yeah. Didn't even go didn't even go 3%.

Sacha Stone: 49:35

And I I mean it, Sandra. It didn't even go 3% of the way to actually disclose what we know. And, again, not to toot my own horn, but seventeen, eighteen years ago, I was arranging meetings at the United Nations with astronauts and religious leaders and people who were experiencing the extraterrestrial exopolitics exopolitics and all the rest of it. I was bringing those meetings together to try to trigger that conversation forward, you know, at the UN. So I've had salons in my house almost twenty years ago with some of the greatest pundits on extraterrestrials and and exopolitics and so on.

Sacha Stone: 50:07

I've known a number of these astronauts and and people who are spoon feeding aliens in the basement over the years. It's it's been going on for, you know, over half a century, for god's sake.

Dr. Sandra Rose Michael: 50:18

And, of course, I learned so much about that directly from Doctor. Fred Bell, for example.

Sacha Stone: 50:23

Right, right, yeah.

Dr. Sandra Rose Michael: 50:25

So much, you know. I mean there's just so much of that that's going on. To think that we're the most intelligent life in the multiverse is

Sacha Stone: 50:34

Well, think we have the capacity to be the most intelligent once our so called junk DNA is fully actualized. I think you'll find we are super luminally graced with more intelligence than any other entities. But right now, I'd suggest we're operating at less than 5% at best. Mhmm. So go figure.

Sacha Stone: 50:52

Yeah.

Dr. Sandra Rose Michael: 50:52

Yeah. Ultimately, are the great beings of light and body mode of Yeah. Yeah. Yes. God's love.

Dr. Sandra Rose Michael: 51:03

Mhmm. That is the ultimate.

Sacha Stone: 51:05

Yes. God's love and God's grace. I would agree with that. Mhmm.

Dr. Sandra Rose Michael: 51:08

Yeah. Well, thank you so much for spending time with us and and for sharing your knowledge, wisdom, information with everybody so freely. And, you know, I've loved all the work that we've done together. And so much more to do.

Sacha Stone: 51:28

Thank you, son.

Dr. Sandra Rose Michael: 51:28

And so much that you're doing and so much more to do. And appreciate you.

Sacha Stone: 51:34

Thank you, my darling.