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Welcome to "The Activate Change Podcast," where transformation is just a conversation away. Join Gabrielli LaChiara, renowned healer and creator of the LaChiara Method, as she guides individuals through powerful healing sessions. Alongside her, Chloë Faith Urban breaks down the frameworks and tools Gabrielli uses to bring deeper understanding to the profound process of healing. The episodes that are healing sessions offer an intimate front-row seat to authentic, raw, and real personal breakthroughs, spiritual healing, and emotional support, allowing you to see yourself in the journeys of others. Experience the power and magic of the LaChiara Method, learn practical tools for self-growth, and unlock your potential to activate change in your own life.
With the LaChiara Method’s deep commitment to collaboration and perpetual learning, some episodes will highlight conversations with other thought leaders, healers, and activists on the path to bringing healing, liberation and true equality to the world.
Whether you're seeking healing, inspiration, or a deeper understanding of yourself, this podcast is your gateway to a more rooted, resilient and radiant YOU.
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Chloë:Hi there, Chloe here. This episode, we're trying something a little different. For the next stretch, we'll be sharing these session episodes without added commentary from me. Just the raw, real, and unfiltered pulse of the work itself. Let the sessions speak for themselves, land where they land, and stir what they stir in you.
Chloë:Thanks for being with us. And now let's begin. In this episode, Gabrieli has a session with Elise who's in the midst of a spiritual rebirth. After years of defining herself by what she did, Elise is longing for a deeper connection to her spirit, but struggling to trust it. Together, they explore what it means to reclaim a spiritual self in a world that worships productivity, clear the fear of being too much or not enough, and ask, what if I'm already okay?
Chloë:Listen as Elise gently releases old family contracts, softens her inner judgment, and shows up in a space of innocent curiosity about who she's becoming. Let's dive in.
Gabrielli:Hi, welcome Thank to the podcast you. Happy to be here. Thank you. It's so nice to be with you. And I know that you're familiar with the work, we're just gonna dive in.
Gabrielli:And if you're comfortable, I think I'll just take that moment to center myself and center us and get our space ready to begin.
Elise:Yeah, great.
Gabrielli:Okay, good. So taking the breath as you wish, let's just invoke that this time is yours for your healing, for whatever ways in which I can show up. Be present, listen, feel, and support your amazing life. So presumptuous that I called your life amazing, but for some reason, I just have this deep inner feeling of where life itself is amazing and we can forget to appreciate and honor so much of I don't know, so much of what it takes and the nature of who we are, right? Yeah.
Gabrielli:Yeah. Not to say there isn't pain. So, holding the complexities with you, holding all the dance, the journey, and closing up any circuits, generative, not required, so that we can show up and be present and activate change and generate healing immediately. Yeah, I'm very curious for your intentions, how you think I could help today.
Elise:Yeah. Yeah, I was thinking about that in the last couple of days. I I mean, there's so much going on for me right now. I feel like I could go in lots of different directions, but I was thinking like, okay, what feels like it's really connected to energy and being and spirit and soul? And yeah, I'm in a really big transition.
Elise:I left my job that was very demanding and also offered a lot
Gabrielli:of
Elise:identity and also totally burnt me out. And then I went away specifically to do some healing and feel like I have, yeah, just some coming back with more awareness and clarity around sort of, I guess, where I've been, but not necessarily where I'm going. And I'm just feeling sort of energetically stuck. Like I have, I really want this time, this like really precious time of pause to be about really discovering what, who I am, like reconnecting with myself and my soul And I feel like I've been feeling just sort of low energy and not feeling a lot of motivation. And I think that is because spirit hasn't really been lit up.
Elise:Like, I feel like it's been just sort of dampened over the last few years for a number of reasons. And so I feel like I've got to create energy to feel energy, but again, I'm just sort of feeling a little depressed in my energy field. And on one hand, I'm like, Just do something, see how it feels, or commit to something. And then on the other hand, I'm like, No, don't commit to anything because this is the time where I just get to be free. But I think I may be feeling a little isolated and a little lost.
Elise:Yeah, that's what I'm coming with today.
Gabrielli:Okay. That feels like a good place to dive in. This, like I'm hearing, I'm just hearing it when you're sharing. I'm hearing a number of things, and one is just the awkwardness when we create change and make room for ourselves yet we don't have necessarily the full pulse of where we're going. And that you talked about feeling like, Oh, I know where I've been, but what does it mean to know where I'm going?
Elise:And
Gabrielli:here I am in this moment and I don't know, I can relate to that in myself, New York Times and places where I emptied the vessel and then I'm like, Woah, there's nothing here. And it's awkward. Totally. So looking at that and I love your orientation, is that a spirit, almost like a spirit depression? Is there a place where I'm just void of the fuel?
Gabrielli:Like the essence of the drive really to know what's lighting up and how I can use myself to show up in this world and for this body.
Elise:So, yeah. Yeah, totally. Yeah. That emptying definitely resonated. Like I've been letting so much go and just yeah, like what I fill it with?
Elise:Yeah.
Gabrielli:Right, right. And that fear or trepidation of feeling about the wrong thing.
Elise:Yeah.
Gabrielli:And like turning around and looking back and being like, Oh shoot, I should have X, Y, or Z, or having regrets, or something like that. So I can feel something in there.
Elise:Yeah. And not feeling like I'm trying not to grasp at this, but I can feel myself wanting these clear messages from the universe. And I'm not getting them. And I think that this The more that I sort of sit in that awkwardness, less Yeah, maybe I think I'm being a little impatient with the whole process. So I'm not, like it, yeah, it just feels uncomfortable to really slow down and literally be still and listen.
Elise:So
Gabrielli:Yeah, let's dive in there. Can feel some good energy on that. Let's just dive into that. The the question that that sits in, which is like, will I show up? Will I be there?
Gabrielli:Is the wisdom there? Will I find something in the grasping as well as the impatience as well as the flatness that can all be bound in a moment like this.
Elise:Yeah.
Gabrielli:Yeah. And before I do that, I just wanna celebrate you for all the ways up until this moment you've gotten here to take care of yourself, to know what you need, to make choices that gave you support really in being able to get this level of discomfort on the table. And I really just feel in awe of all that you've done to make room for yourself. And let's see how we can help you birth through.
Elise:Yeah? Okay. Thank you. Thank you for the celebration. I forget to do that sometimes.
Elise:Right. Right. So,
Gabrielli:where do we wanna go? So who? I'm gonna dive into discovery. Is that
Elise:okay? Yeah, totally.
Gabrielli:And I know that you know that means we're going into this asking of our questions and seeking and sitting and feeling into the subconscious and unconscious parts of our aware self. So, when did you decide that your spirit is wow. The word that comes in is maybe wrong. The wrong one, wrong for you, wrong for the world, like or did you make any decisions along the way that something in the spirit of who you are is wrong.
Elise:Yeah. Let me let me feel into that.
Gabrielli:Yeah. Take your time. I think at a certain point,
Elise:maybe it feels like when I a child, which I know that's a lot of years, maybe somewhere in like early adolescence, it started to feel like my spirit was less important than what I did. So, who I was was less important than than what I did and I and I started to notice that, you know, I I was good at a lot of things and I wanted that that felt good to get that positive reinforcement. So I feel like I started down that path of do the things versus be who you are. Right.
Gabrielli:That makes sense. And create maybe a split that spirit was gonna be different than what you're doing versus maybe having an orientation that it is the spirit that drives what you're doing.
Elise:Yeah. Yeah. And just that the spirit I mean, I grew up with a very non spiritual household. I think even that there was such a thing as a spirit wasn't acknowledged and
Gabrielli:Oh yeah, then everything you knew already in pre adolescence to adolescence about who you really are and what it means to be spiritual on this earth that you had to either hide, destroy, put aside, make wrong, like, in order to be loyal, in order to be functional, in order to be safe in your family, right? That would all be on the table. Totally. So, can we clear the energy around that so we can see how? What does it even look like to have it all now?
Gabrielli:It sounds like you want it all. You want a body that functions well and you want a spirit that supports you, and you want them to merge and connect into your being and your essence. Embodied is the word I hear.
Elise:Yeah.
Gabrielli:Yeah. So, less clear, any and all of the patterns that were early on created inside of you and around you to suggest that having your spirit might be dangerous because it ostracizes you. It puts you outside of the family. It makes you different in a way that could be confusing, painful, misunderstood, and or judged. Oh, I got lots of shivers.
Gabrielli:And releasing injury recall and all of the conscious and unconscious and patterns created inside of family and in the community around you that supported you in separating away from your spiritual life force and into just being a functioning doer. Activate change and generate healing immediately. Let's take a deep breath if you want. And then a really long one of those maybe shake it off style exhales. Good.
Gabrielli:Okay. Good. Anything coming up you wanna share, or you want me to jump jump in with another question?
Elise:Yeah. Well, I'm feeling some emotion, I'm curious if that's just about how nice it feels to have yourself reflected back to you and to feel seen or if there's something
Gabrielli:deeper in there. But I
Elise:think it's mostly just acknowledging the truth and how that can feel. That can move some things around. Yeah.
Gabrielli:Well, let's breathe into it and allow you to take a moment to receive connection, validation, reflection of your experience in life. And I would suggest, again, if it's comfortable to you to take three long breaths, maybe longer on your exhale, and let your parasympathetic nervous system integrate. There are people in this world that understand, see, feel, and hear your experience of life, all the things inclusive to what it has taken in order for you to be safe on this earth, in your body, with others, in family, all the choices you made, conscious or unconscious, to align with something in order to be successful even, all the attempts to thrive, and all of the rewriting and reorganizing that you've been doing to ask yourself, who am I now,
Chloë:and who will I become?
Gabrielli:And activate change and generate healing immediately. Yeah. I feel that with you and feel the tears welling up in the back of my eyes. Yeah. Yeah.
Gabrielli:What do you think is there still maybe a contract you're breaking or an agreement inside yourself you might've made conscious or unconscious? There's something that needs to Already has cord cut that you need to acknowledge that's about being you?
Elise:I think Yeah, I think I have some fears around fully connecting with my spirit and being a spiritual person. People won't take me seriously. I'll sound like a nut job. That's what just came up.
Gabrielli:Yeah. That's fair. Yeah. It happens. And sometimes people are really split out and delusional when they're in a spiritual space.
Gabrielli:Sometimes they're delusional when they're not spiritual. You know? But I think that we can be deemed and or, like, I really appreciate you wanting your spiritual side without flipping those circuits either. You don't wanna go so far out of reality that you choose spirit over being a body and over being functioning in the physical reality you're in is kind of what I'm hearing and what you're saying. Yeah.
Elise:Even just the world we live in valuing the world of doing and producing over feeling and connection. And yeah, I think there's some fears around just like
Gabrielli:I just got such an awareness that popped in and sometimes I interrupt to jump it in so we don't miss the energy of it. Yeah. Is that okay?
Elise:Yeah, totally.
Gabrielli:Yeah. Just backing up to, we're in such a world that values the doer And instantly brought me to this place of like, Oh, right. You just did all this healing work in a very doing way. You went and made a choice. You went someplace.
Gabrielli:You took care of yourself. You did what you needed to do to do your healing. Not that you're gonna stop doing healing, but there's something in there then coming home and moving into being and where it may have polarized, the fear of having more spiritual life. Like you're sitting right in the conundrum of, well, I could keep doing, or I could go for my spirit, but does that mean if I go for my spirit, I can't do? And like, I'm hearing the split and sensing the confusion in the center of that.
Elise:Yeah.
Gabrielli:And literally the terror, like if I choose, if I now choose to really allow myself to feel spiritual inside myself, am I giving up the other parts of life? Am I separating myself from both people, but also realities that I still wanna be a part of? All of that's coming to the table in this moment of emptying, this moment of change.
Elise:Yeah. Yeah. Totally. Yeah. And Wanting to be, yeah.
Elise:Like some feeling around the, the only, the way that I will be seen and accepted and is through the doing work. Right. Yeah. Right.
Gabrielli:So that's one way to be seen and respected and accepted all of it. And can I just ask, like, in your own kind of pristine consciousness of who you are and what you really know deep inside yourself, is it true that if you embrace your spiritual self, that you will be completely cut off from connection, from people, from acceptance in society or by others? Is that actually true at this stage? No.
Elise:It's not true. And there's there's some fear that's coming up from me for me around just, like, acceptance of this, like, different being and whether the people in my life will still be friends if I start talking about new things and doing new things.
Gabrielli:That's so fair. It's such a really important to feel the potential loss and change. It's so important. It's so important to understand, Wow, I'm going to take a risk and allow myself to be more of my own nature. I want to be cautious because I don't want you to split.
Gabrielli:I really want to look at that polarity where it goes extreme, right? Because it's like, there are places, times, people that will put a certain kind of costume on and show up and be with and acclimate to those people to be able to stay in connection or those circumstances or situations. That's very different than not being embodied in our spirit and in our essence. For me, there was a new entrainment that was sort of like, Oh, wait a minute. I can completely know who I am as a spirit and an essence.
Gabrielli:And it doesn't mean it has to be either on or off. Like, if it's not on a 100% and I'm not putting it out there a 100% that I'm not really me, but I have a gauge, a discernment that says, oh, where can I show up? And where can I bring more of myself? And where can I also acclimate and bring the other parts of myself that are true too? And which relationships will I take the biggest risks in and which ones will I stay, compatible to so that I can harmonize them and maintain my loyalty to certain parts of my family or certain parts of my friend circles.
Gabrielli:Right?
Elise:Yeah.
Gabrielli:And there's like a whole rainbow sherbet in between I'm either on or off. Like, I'm gonna become me and I'm gonna be so much me that I don't have any option anymore to like accommodate a situation that I might still wanna be in.
Elise:Yeah.
Gabrielli:Does that mean that you might lose people? Yeah. I mean, still, it means that some people you won't be as close to as you might want to.
Elise:Yeah.
Gabrielli:And that's probably true anyway. You haven't been as close as you've wanted to being the other way, right?
Elise:Yep. Yeah.
Gabrielli:Yeah. It's almost like, can we just know that? Can we be okay with that reality?
Elise:Yeah.
Gabrielli:Clearing all of the either ors and which trauma and oppression both bring, which split us into cycles where we think it's all or nothing. And what if being the spiritual essence of you is not an all or nothing choice? What if you can embody that spiritual essence and actually use it to help you show up in different moments, different situations, people, places, things as more or less of that? And then what would it take to want that spiritual essence as help and support in coping with the relationships of this world? Activate change and generate healing immediately.
Gabrielli:What does all that bring up for you?
Elise:I've I think part of the feeling a little stuck right now is, as you were talking about, like, how I show up and what parts of ourselves we bring. And I think I yeah. I've sort of got this I do have this energy right now of, like, oh, I'm, like, ready to do something new and start this new chapter of my life. I don't really, like, I don't know where to put myself. And maybe the places and relationships that I have don't necessarily feel like the right places.
Elise:And so it's almost like, I think I feel some sadness about that. But when people asked me if I was excited to be home, answer was not really. And so yeah, I think I am both feeling this energy, not sure where to put it, sad, maybe a little longing for belonging. And yeah, where do I put this? How do I be with this energy that I'm feeling with other people?
Gabrielli:Yeah. Oh, it makes so much sense to me. You're making so much sense to me. There's a grieving when we change our identities. Tackled a whole entire identity of yourself that doesn't serve you and you're building a new identity and there's just grieving.
Gabrielli:The old you isn't there. You're not gonna just put it back on. The things that you worked on, you worked on on purpose because you need those changes, right? And I get it that when we build a new identity and we birth ourselves into our lives, we don't have a place yet. I mean, Maybe you'll start to see more than you think, the tiny little snippets of like, Oh, wait, there's a spot that more of me belongs in, so let me nurture that.
Gabrielli:But we do have to grieve where we don't really fit into the boxes we're in. Yeah. And some of those, again, relationships will take risks and eventually find that we fit more than we think, and a lot of them we might not. But it's a huge undertaking. From my perspective, it's really kind of like a three year journey.
Gabrielli:I would want to give you a lot of space to say. You need time to really birth in so that we want to look back in three years and say, I've got it. I've got the people that are my people, that understand me, that show up with me, that I show up for, that really know, like, this version of me. And not to wait three years to find them, but it takes that long to really build that. Right?
Gabrielli:It's a new chapter. Yeah. Yeah. A new book really of who you are. Yeah.
Gabrielli:So then I start to think, are you willing over this year to give yourself plenty of time and space to be surprised by the small and sort of the tiny little nuggets of connection that begin to light up to show you where you do belong. Yeah. Yeah. And are you also willing to give yourself space and maybe even like maybe some sort of a, I don't know, a ritual, but not in the sense of like some big spiritual ritual as much as just a pattern where you can say, Oh, once a week, I'm gonna take the time to grieve. And to really acknowledge myself that the choice I made to change also comes with loss.
Gabrielli:And that's just real. You're losing parts of you even that you're asking. You're asking those to shift and dissolve. Yeah. Yeah.
Gabrielli:So let's invoke that you have time and space and any head trip that got in there or anybody's doing that got in there or any urges to be fast and figure it out and think that it's all gonna happen in the next two weeks or two months even, that we can debunk those. And we can breathe with you and say, Babies are born and they take a long time before they learn to walk. They take a long time before they learn to talk. And then there's more, and then there's more development. And your spiritual connection to you is really still newborn.
Gabrielli:You're still birthing and understanding and accepting and realizing what it feels like to be you, not just what it is to be you, but what it feels like. And that you get to take the time to start to understand which music inspires you, what sounds, what places, what situations, what people, what lights you up, what will build you into the connection of you to you. And I encourage all of that. Like, what sounds do I like? What foods do I wanna eat?
Gabrielli:Where do I wanna be? Like, what situations really light me up? You know? What is a feeling inside of me like something I want more of? And activate change and generate healing immediately.
Gabrielli:Yeah, it's like being on a discovery on the honeymoon with yourself. Like, Oh, could I take this time to get to know myself versus thinking I know something and I'm supposed to do it, but more or I'm waiting, but more like, wait. That's a relationship I'm supposed to build.
Elise:Right. Yeah.
Gabrielli:Inside myself to me. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Elise:Yeah. And I think something you said something about I can't remember your words, but, like, the the resisting me resisting this, like, fully stepping into this relationship with my spirit and spirit, the the spiritual world is probably not helping the this, you know, this absence of of clear messages that I'm hoping for, know, I'm like wanting some clarity around my life's purpose. And I think the more that I, I don't know why this didn't occur to me until right now, but like the more that I resist that relationship. Right. Like, of course, of
Gabrielli:course I'm Right. That's where they come from, by the way.
Elise:Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Gabrielli:Right, and you get to build a relationship and ask the questions. I love our discovery kind of lifestyle. For me, there's discovery process as a session, and then there's a way I live in discovery. And there's times in my life where I put a question, it's as if I put it in the circuit and I ask it 10 to 30 times a day just to be curious without really looking for answers. But it's like walking around with like, What would it take for me to really know my inner wisdom?
Gabrielli:Or, What would it take for me to receive the spiritual essence of myself and trust it? And you could pick a question and then live that so that when you start to feel lost, confused, kind of flat, you can just bring the question to life and ask it 10 times and say, oh, that's all I'm supposed to do right now is be curious. I really invite curiosity. I think it's gonna feel way different than the assumptions. Usually, often, at least for me, was so different than the assumptions I made about what I was gonna feel like.
Gabrielli:I think you want to be surprised. Right?
Elise:Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Totally.
Elise:I want yeah. I wanna, like, I wanna discover new things about myself that I didn't know. I wanna discover, like, what I I mean, something that kept coming up for me when I was away was just like, wow, if someone asked me, when someone asked me like what my dream life would look like, I don't actually know. Don't Right. And
Gabrielli:that could be daunting, but it's also kind of cool. It's like, Wow, I get to find that out. That's amazing. So, spirit of curiosity, the spirit of wanting to know, the spirit of desire feels important. I want to imagine that you could wake up the desire to know and that that's as important as anything you learn.
Gabrielli:Because once we hit the part of our longing, it's soul speak longing. It's like, Oh, wait a minute. I put this on hold my whole life. There's a part of me that does really, really wanna know what's possible for me on this earth where I do belong and where my place is. Yeah.
Gabrielli:So, for all the times, places, dimensions that you diminished your own longing, are you willing to inspire the curiosity and longing to be you? Yes. Yeah.
Elise:Yeah. And I think I also and I I know this is I can do this every day, but I I wanna, like, call in some support from Yeah. The universe to Yeah. To help me find that.
Gabrielli:Yeah. Let let's I might invite shifting it from calling it from the universe and shifting it to calling it from, like, your own being, which is plugged into the universe. Right? So there's some there's something in language that can be powerful when we're like, wait. I have an entire infinite source of being that's connected to the universe in my own relationship to God, divine spirit, whatever I want to call that, and my body and this whole earth.
Gabrielli:And that what I'm asking is to light up my connection to that information so that I'm not just getting a pile of information from someplace else, but I'm receiving that information from my own awakened knowing. So you don't have to buy that, but like that worked for me a little bit better because I felt I was dissociating a little bit. I'm waiting for the universe or God, which seemed to be something other than me, to show up and do something, and yet I was trying to heal the part of myself that had abandoned myself on behalf of loving others. And I was like, Wait, I have to be in the mix of that. It feels more healthier for me to be a part of that universal connection and not separate from.
Gabrielli:Yeah. So that may or may not help. I
Elise:think that will.
Gabrielli:Yeah. So if your being is connected to the universe and this infinite, like if we are body, being, soul, spirit, communion, all of it, and your own spirit is right there waiting to light up, connected to your own being, which is the fuel, the awareness, the connection energetically to all of life that feeds your body, that weaves through your soul. If your body, being, soul, and spirit were in total communion, what would your infiniteness, what would your being know that you need right now? Does anything come
Elise:up? One of
Gabrielli:those times where I just want that instant answer from
Elise:the heavens. Rest.
Gabrielli:Right, let's clear that. Let's clear all the ways in which it's coming from the heavens. It's not, it's coming from deep inside the fabric in the tissues of your body. You're right here. Let's clear all the ways in which something else talking to you.
Gabrielli:You've got this. This is you. You are asking yourself to light up for you on your behalf. So if your infinite being is you and you are connected to the universe and you have your own resource as a body to universe, to self, to this version of your life right now, what would you know right now in this moment about being you and anything, any sensation, anything that comes up?
Elise:I think loving the person that I am today and loving myself into wherever I'm going, even if I don't know where that is.
Gabrielli:Yeah, let's clear all the ways in which you may be learning and anything that blocks you really from learning what it means to love yourself so deeply, to cherish, to care for, to nurture awake and alive the way you would another being that you fall in love with, right? It's like, what does it take to really build this relationship where you're like, I get to learn me. I don't know me. I get to learn what it means to be my own channel of the universe. I get to feel what it feels like to understand my own spiritual nature and what it wants for my body on this earth and what my body wants to bring to it.
Gabrielli:So if your body being soul and spirit, if they were all in communion and they were a part of the universe, then the universe is part of you. What else would you know about being you right now? I just felt the slightest shift. What was that? It feels like it was so subtle and beautiful.
Gabrielli:What was that?
Elise:What came what came to me was I'm okay.
Gabrielli:I'm okay. Wow. You got yourself okay. Feel that. You would know right in this moment that, wait a minute.
Gabrielli:I'm actually okay. That is so powerful. It came in as like this I felt I felt like this I just felt like this most delightful, gentle, like, waterfall inside my chest, but it was, like, so subtle of just like, maybe I could exhale. Maybe I'm okay. And if you knew you were okay and you knew that these were just parts of things you want to learn, the discovery of life that you actually could long for and get excited about, and they're not problems to have.
Gabrielli:They're actually good. They're things you finally get to like the eyes of a two year old. You just stand up and be like, I wanna learn it all. I wanna know what I like. I wanna try on things and not like them.
Gabrielli:Like, what if you could bring that level of innocence to you?
Elise:Yeah. Yeah. Right? Yeah. I think with lots of, like, leaving leaving the judgment.
Elise:There's always like yeah, just being curious without a judgment of, like, that's a good thing or that's a bad thing or that's a Yeah. Okay way to spend my time or not. Right. Right. Right.
Elise:Yeah. Innocently curious.
Gabrielli:Innocently curious. And the judgments will arise and fall and arise and fall. They're habits of every human brain I know and some of us more. So I kind of feel like the judgments just get to wash over. And to me, sometimes we'll take them more seriously.
Gabrielli:There's a returning. Whenever we can, we get to remember, Oh, right. I'm resetting and returning to my innocence. That even with all that, the judgment is just part of being me. Just none of that's wrong.
Elise:Yeah.
Gabrielli:Right? And none of it's really wrong. None it's all just part of the scope of being a body on earth and the complexity of being a body that wants connection. You've never given up on it. Some part of you wants to belong.
Gabrielli:That's amazing. It's amazing. Yeah. You could have just quit on that, functioned just fine, but that's not what you want. You wanna feel something more.
Gabrielli:You want more life, more aliveness, more spirit, more connection, and that is just the most profound reality that I've witnessed in you here. Like, oh, you still want it. That's beautiful. It didn't get broken.
Elise:Yeah.
Gabrielli:Yeah. Yeah. That's clear. Anything that blocks you from recognizing that even asking and talking about it means that you haven't given hope And that some part of you does know that you have this incredible spiritual wisdom you can connect to. And that we get to put realistic goals for the time it might take to build that relationship, but you get to take steps in your curiosity.
Gabrielli:You get to ask for accountability and support in that, how to show up and come back, return to that place when it gets hard or frozen or flat. And what does it take to begin to build a new relationship to you? And activate change and generate healing immediately. It feels powerful. What do you feel like?
Elise:Yeah. I just that the feeling of being Okay and working from there versus like, I feel like the last, I don't know, ten years I've been like digging at what's wrong with me. And like trying to discover the like, the one thing that is, like will will change everything if I discover it. And and and and so, yeah, just reminding, remembering that, like, working from that place, that place of, like, feeling broken versus Yeah. Working from a place of and and I'm gonna replace working with being, being from a place of of being okay.
Elise:Like, that's so much more powerful.
Gabrielli:Yeah. Yeah. And you you may you may have gotten broken by life in different ways. You know, I was this is a kind of funny analogy, I have a little tripod dog, you know, and she got hit by a truck when she was two. She's missing a leg.
Gabrielli:There's part of me that at some point was like, right, you know, we're kind of like that. You know, Whether it's somebody else's fault or hers or whatever happened, life kind of hit hard and she's missing a part that she has to acclimate and accommodate around forever. It doesn't grow back. It also doesn't make her unhappy. She accommodates and there's things that she'll do differently for her whole life because of it, whether she knows it or not.
Gabrielli:And that's all of us. We do get kind of broken and beat up by life sometimes and it hurts. And some of that shit we do to ourselves and some happens to us. And understanding our brokenness can be helpful for a period of time. Then it's also helpful to be like, Oh, it's a pathological orientation if I stay there forever.
Gabrielli:And it misses the part that's like, But wait, every single coping skill you've had and did, whether those are things you think are messed up now or not, they were all really valuable. You're still alive, you're still here, you're still seeking, You're still wanting healing. Those are profound realities. And yes, there's an okayness you can now receive that says, maybe from here I can grow because I want to and not because I have to and not because something's so wrong with me and that if I don't grow, I won't be okay. Right?
Gabrielli:Yeah. That feels profoundly different to me. And and then we can accept that, sure, something might be broken in there that life hit hard on, and that doesn't necessarily mean you can't have joy and happiness and be spirited and alive and also accommodate and show up and do the things you need to do for the world you live in, and you get to have it all. So what does it take to embrace? Sure, the parts that are broken, but also to orient towards, I'm okay.
Gabrielli:Like I'm okay. Deep inside, I know I'm okay. And I'm seeking because I know somewhere in me that I deserve to feel the aliveness of being me. Some part of you knows that.
Elise:Yeah. Yeah. And
Gabrielli:you get to learn and take steps and fall backwards and get up and activate change and generate healing immediately. That feels amazing.
Elise:It does feel amazing. My amazing life.
Gabrielli:I know I started that way. I was like, I don't usually just start with that. But there was something that came in so strong right away and the awkwardness, and I know we had our own funny awkwardness because I couldn't even get my podcast mic to work. But in the awkwardness of landing, it felt like all of life to me. I felt like there was messaging of like, Okay, it's imperfect.
Gabrielli:It's messy. It might work. It might not work. And then here we are, and all I could feel was this beauty. When I tuned in on you, I felt like this amazing beauty of what a miracle it is that you're choosing to heal.
Gabrielli:And I, again, wanna celebrate that in you, that I find it precious and I have awe that you're actually choosing. You're choosing your own healing and that despite any evidence, you're still choosing to believe that your spirit and this universe of you and your knowing is there and that it will light up and wake up and be you.
Elise:Thank you. You. Thank you. Yeah.
Gabrielli:I mean,
Elise:sort of feels like the only option. I mean, I guess death is always an option, but that's never felt like a-
Gabrielli:Or people live sort of drugged or numbed or cause more dramas or act out in other places to avoid feeling I mean, there's a lot of options, right? The two extremes are to either live or die. And I appreciate that it's felt that extreme in you. It's like either I'm gonna live and do what I need to do or I'm not. To me, that's soul speak because it's the part of you that is naturally a healer, a seeker, somebody who wants to grow, is oriented in a growth way.
Gabrielli:That's just you. That's part of who you are. So living means you do that, right? Yeah. Yeah.
Gabrielli:That's spirit, by the way.
Elise:Yeah.
Gabrielli:Just to not forget. No. That maybe your spirit is right here stimulating and encouraging and inspiring you to continue to take the steps to live alive, to grow, to change and evolve. And so let's clear anything that blocks you from also recognizing and feeling the winds of who you are and activate change and generate healing immediately. Thank you so much for this journey.
Elise:Yeah. Thank you. Thank you.
Gabrielli:Just wanna breathe in for a moment here and see if there's anything at all you need from me before we close-up.
Elise:There is there's an indication that I'm it's great grid activation. Mhmm. Mhmm. That one, I feel like I would love to receive that right now.
Gabrielli:Great. I love that you know. Okay. So let's command the vibrational source. Oh, let me ask you first.
Gabrielli:Which grid, if you were to liberate yourself from existing as a grid of some sort, which one do you want to liberate yourself from? And it's okay if you don't have a specific, but if you did, I'd love to aim it for you.
Elise:Yeah. Cultural is that that's that's
Gabrielli:that's one. Yeah? Like a societal one.
Elise:Yeah? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Gabrielli:Yep. So let's command the vibrational source of consciousness, which by the way is you and your own, for lack of better words, higher self and mine. So let's command the vibrational source of consciousness to liberate you from existing as the grid's constructs, structures, forms, beliefs, systems, identities, emotions, and spirits of the cultures around us, of society, of quote unquote other, and others' points of view or beliefs about being human. And let's liberate that from every single cell and particle of all of who you are and through all time, spaces, dimensions, and universes, activate change and generate healing immediately. Oh
Elise:my gosh. Shivers all over. Yeah. That felt good. Thank you.
Elise:Thank you.
Gabrielli:And let's do one more thing. Can I do one more thing? Let's command your body and being to release anything that's not yours and anything that's been indoctrinated consciously, unconsciously in you about what it means to be you and what it means to be happy and joyful and connected and belong on this earth. And let's command your body and being to release all of that and gift it to the vibrational source of consciousness. Activate change and generate healing immediately.
Elise:Whoo. And
Gabrielli:offering that this body, this being, this soul, this spirit, this earth divine you, that you are here and you know it or you wouldn't be asking these questions. And that every bit of what it means to plug into the universe is in you to know, to receive, to restore from its nature, from the injuries that have happened to bring into your alive experience and activate change and generate healing immediately. Yeah.
Elise:Just had like a a warm buzzing throughout my body. Good. Really energizing and nice. Yeah. Good.
Gabrielli:Thank you. Thank you so much for being with me on the ride. Yeah. Thank you. Thank you.
Gabrielli:Forward to more. Me too. Thank you, Gabrieli. You're welcome.
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