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Interviewing indie founders about their journey and their products. itslaunchday.com
Dagobert Renouf (00:00)
Hey Simon, good to see you man, it's been a long time that you know we've been friends on Twitter and I've been looking forward to talking with you.
Simon Høiberg (00:06)
Very happy to be here. Thanks for inviting me.
Dagobert Renouf (00:10)
Yeah, so you know before like looking at your product, I'm like just curious about ⁓ like but actually are you still indie? Are you still indie? Do you have funding? What's your state now?
Simon Høiberg (00:22)
No funding. ⁓ I'm still what I would consider an indie hacker. ⁓ Yeah.
Dagobert Renouf (00:28)
Yeah.
Okay, cool. Because that's quite ⁓ impressive. So I'd be curious to know a bit more about your journey. Because now you have, I guess, employees, people working for you. You have this whole thing that you built up yourself. So how did this all start?
Simon Høiberg (00:49)
Ah, that's a good question. It actually all started back in 2021 when I was dabbling with my very first product. I have a background in software engineering, which is like I'm a completely self-taught engineer. And in 2021, this was before we had AI that could code for us. So being an engineer that could build stuff was a massive advantage at the time.
Before I started doing SaaS, I was working for roughly 10 years or so as a freelancer. I started out way back doing simple WordPress Shopify solutions for clients and then slowly built up more and more skills in engineering and ended up doing more, can we say complex software engineering using React and building in the cloud on AWS and so on.
And at some point I took the leap and I canceled all my clients to start working on my own products.
Dagobert Renouf (01:43)
Yeah.
So you like had saved some money and then you switch completely like you didn't do it on the side.
Simon Høiberg (01:53)
Yes.
Dagobert Renouf (01:55)
Cool, how did you, because like I see a lot of debate on social media about should you keep your job? I cannot do it with a job or with even freelancing because I'm too intense when I work on something I guess and I cannot switch easily. So how was it for you?
Simon Høiberg (02:11)
⁓ When I launched my first product, Feedhive, a social media management tool, I canceled my clients more or less as soon as I saw some people paying for it. I think that Feedhive had $300 MRR or something like that when I canceled all my clients with my, all contracts with my current clients and jumped on board full time.
Dagobert Renouf (02:35)
And
how did it feel to do that? How did it feel?
Simon Høiberg (02:37)
⁓
It was thrilling and I want to add to it that not only did I do that, but I had so big confidence in what I was doing with this product that I went out and I hired a full team. There were people that were influencers also on Twitter at time and were in my network. ⁓ over the course of the next three months, I spent around $50,000 paying for this team and my product.
Dagobert Renouf (02:53)
my God.
Simon Høiberg (03:07)
barely moved after three months, think FIDA was doing 2000 MRR. And after three months, I had to basically fire that whole team again saying like, I'm so sorry. I was completely overconfident in what I could pull off. This whole thing took way, way, way longer than I had thought. And then I kept building solo for the next... ⁓
Dagobert Renouf (03:16)
my God.
Simon Høiberg (03:30)
one and a half years or so before finally breaking even on that initial loss. And those one and a half years, was agonizing because every day I got up and thought like, I probably got to go back to doing consulting because this is not going anywhere. And I had some savings to run on, but if that had not been the case, it would have just been a really, really big waste of money. But fortunately, it worked out in this case.
Dagobert Renouf (03:47)
Yeah.
Yeah, I hear you.
I hear you when I did my first, my previous startup Logology. I started jumping in, left my job. After three months, I'm like, I'm not making, I'm not going to make it. came up once to realize how hard it is. And then thankfully I had some savings too, so that was okay. But, wow, yeah, interesting story.
So I'm trying to do a new thing with this new launch day batch. And can you kind of briefly...
pitch your story and product, how you got there, how you got your product, and what you've made here and what you're presenting.
Simon Høiberg (04:31)
Absolutely. Yeah, so as you just mentioned, we've probably known each other from all the way back since like 2022, something like that. And this was when I was launching my first SaaS product, FeedHive which is a social media management tool. This tool has come a long way. It's now turned into more of a AI automation tool in the social media space. And in the past four years, I've been building out a small
portfolio of SaaS products that all fit into one sort of united ecosystem. They're all products that are meant for founders and small businesses. ⁓ A year after I launched Fiat Hive, I launched my next product called LinkDrip, which is a link shortening and automation tool. And then I acquired a small kind of like a mini Canva tool, a small graphic tool called Tiny Kiwi.
And then the year after that, I launched my latest product, which is an AI support tool called 8Base. so now I'm sitting on a portfolio of four products, all ⁓ tailored to work well for founders and small businesses. And I've bundled all of these into one big bundled offer I call Founder's Stack, which is actually a lifetime deal.
So the whole thing has become one big product, but it's really four different SAS tools in the bundle.
Dagobert Renouf (06:01)
Okay, I see. So it's one big product of like all the tools you built in the past few years basically dedicated. Is there Feed Hive in this? ⁓ It's like everything. Okay, lifetime deal of everything. Wow, so that's quite big. Awesome. Cool. So I guess now people have a bit more of an idea of what to do. So that's awesome. I just want to maybe bounce back a little to...
Simon Høiberg (06:08)
That's right.
Feet high, I in this. Yes.
That's right.
Dagobert Renouf (06:29)
Feedhive, because that's how I really met you at the beginning. remember, you know, it was very like, tweet scheduling tool and you went beyond tweets, but you know, scheduling tools, a few years ago it was big. And like the first thing I think when I think of you is like, how pissed off you were at Elon Musk after he bought, you know, X and he killed the API. And I remember what happened when...
So there was you, was Tony Den who was doing Blackmagic, there was Yannick from HypeFury, there was like all of these people doing tools and also smaller indie makers. I remember someone ⁓ who was just like a very young guy, maybe even a teenager, he had started making 500 amounts with his app and you know, the API prices increase, which went from basically zero to like, I don't know.
Simon Høiberg (07:17)
you everyone.
Dagobert Renouf (07:20)
40k a month price for an API. So that killed a lot of projects. So can you tell us a bit about this? that was kind of like a, that's like an interesting time when you're like building and it's like such a challenging thing. So I think that's like interesting thing to talk about.
Simon Høiberg (07:37)
Absolutely, absolutely. there is no doubt that this was the biggest crisis in the history of me building products. ⁓ It was very, very, very, very uncomfortable time. heard about the news about ⁓ Elon Musk has just bought Twitter at this point and renamed it to X. And I heard about this news that he was going to introduce a
Dagobert Renouf (07:48)
Yeah.
Simon Høiberg (08:05)
an enterprise grade tier for the API, priced at $42,000 per month. I heard about that roughly two days before it got implemented and all products got wiped.
Dagobert Renouf (08:15)
Yeah.
I remember for like one month before there was some rumors and we were all thinking but the rumors were like $100 a month and it was already annoying people. It was like I remember like oh shit $100 a month is a lot.
Simon Høiberg (08:25)
There was some rumors.
Now we got to pay for
the API. Yeah, exactly. And I have to admit that personally, I heard the rumors about 42,000. For most of that month, I dismissed it. That's like, no, that's the no possible way that that can be. ⁓ But a few days before, I ⁓ heard about it like everyone else. And ⁓ we all got into this big Slack channel. I think it was Tony who created the Slack channel for everyone building using the X API, the Twitter API.
Dagobert Renouf (08:45)
Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah, I was in. remember
Simon Høiberg (09:04)
Yeah,
Dagobert Renouf (09:04)
I was in. I looked at that.
Simon Høiberg (09:06)
and everyone was in panic mode and everyone was trying to figure out ⁓ what the hell to do about this. I remember there were some very big tools at the time that were Twitter tools. I remember at least Hypefury and Typefuly and they were making enough money at the time that they could pay Twitter for this.
Dagobert Renouf (09:22)
Thank
Simon Høiberg (09:28)
for this API access and this was their entire tool. They really didn't have much choice about it. And then there were other tools. I remember Tony was building a tool called Blackmagic. I think it was not making nearly enough that he could actually pay for that. So something like that, yeah, like way below. ⁓ Feedhive at the time, if I remember correctly, it was making around 50,000 MRR. So it would have swallowed.
Dagobert Renouf (09:42)
I think he was making 15 or 14 a month. So yeah.
Simon Høiberg (09:57)
more or less our entire MRR. We could technically have paid for it, but we also had a team I had to pay and we were running ads and it meant like we would have to down-prioritize expenses for more or less everything else just so we could pay for the Twitter API. And so I made the decision back then that we're just not gonna do that. we're just gonna see if we can...
Dagobert Renouf (10:16)
Yeah, I remember
you, I think for a while you allowed people to enter the API key to keep access, I remember this, okay yeah. ⁓
Simon Høiberg (10:22)
Yeah. Yeah, we did. And obviously
that's like, one thing is that it's a terrible experience for users to have to do that. ⁓ Many didn't want to do it. Many realized that they would then have to pay. They had this mini tier for their API access that did cost $100 a month, which would be good for an individual user. But most people just wouldn't want to pay for feed hive and then also have to pay $100 a month for API access separately when they could.
Dagobert Renouf (10:32)
yeah.
Yeah.
Simon Høiberg (10:51)
go
and use a hype viewer type fully which we're doing this at a time. So we decided that we just wanna go on without. ⁓
Dagobert Renouf (10:59)
Yeah, and it made sense for
you because you had a tool that was way beyond Twitter. And also, I think strategically, not a bad move because in the end now, X has become way more niche than it used to be.
Simon Høiberg (11:12)
Absolutely.
Dagobert Renouf (11:12)
You know, because of that move, know, lot of people left. think, you know, half, I guess I feel like now there's like two or three times less people than there used to be, like in terms of like active, interesting things happening. feel like it's basically like 30 % of what it used to be. So, yeah.
Simon Høiberg (11:21)
think so.
Yeah, yeah, I think so. And we still
don't have it. We do have people asking for it every once in a while, but it's rare now. But just when we made the news and broke the news to all our users, we lost 30 % of all our users in a few days. almost 50 % of our revenue is brutal.
Dagobert Renouf (11:44)
Yeah. But I guess it's you lost
less than if you paid Twitter. Because if you had to pay you Yeah. And then you could recover and bounce back.
Simon Høiberg (11:49)
I lost less than, yeah, yeah, essentially, yeah.
one and a half years later in time, we slowly recovered, but it took a long time. did. But ⁓ I'm happy that I took it because as you mentioned, Feedhive started out as a Twitter tool way back when we first launched, but we were quick to add LinkedIn. Then we were quick to add Instagram. And before we sort of knew it, it was becoming a social media tool for...
Dagobert Renouf (12:17)
Yeah.
Simon Høiberg (12:18)
all major platforms and lucky we did that otherwise we would have been in a pickle when this whole thing happened.
Dagobert Renouf (12:23)
Yeah.
You know what I appreciate? Because I use Feed Hive for a while when I was trying to be on multiple platforms. Now I'm I'm just like taking a bit less, you know, focus on social media. So I'm just like using X for fun a lot and like engagement, but like in a way that's more chill. I used to, you know, prepare everything, have two months of tweets in advance. ⁓ So, but I remember trying Feed Hive and really appreciating how...
You could do everything, but it wasn't too much, it wasn't overwhelming. I remember trying to put memes on TikTok and Instagram and threads and Twitter at the same time and YouTube shorts and it was working. It was just working and that was quite awesome because when you look at all these other tools, if you want to... And there's Buffer, the big incumbent, the big one is Buffer, but Buffer, mean, last time I tried...
To be honest, I tried it before Feedahive because it was free, you ⁓ But like, it's so clumsy, like and it's so slow. So it felt good, you know? So I really appreciate, you know, the quality of your product and that's why, you know, I'm happy that you're sponsoring this because like it's really high quality, yeah.
Simon Høiberg (13:34)
Yeah, yeah, yeah, for sure. Thanks,
man. I appreciate it. It's one of the things that we hear from our users a whole lot. We have ⁓ a few agency users who have employees who sit and use Feedhive almost all day long to plan and schedule content for a lot of their clients. And they, in particular, really appreciate that when they have to sit there eight hours in a row and click around one tool, that it's fast and snappy, it routes quickly, and it's easy to navigate around. ⁓
Some of these bigger tools like HootSuite and Sprout Social and Buffer, they are really, really old and dusty tools and they get the job done, but it's quite a pain if you spend a lot of time in that software to sit and have to click around and just those tiny small seconds you have to wait between reroutes and it adds up.
Dagobert Renouf (14:25)
Yeah, yeah, and I remember Buffer like 15 years ago, like, you know, so that's when they started like or something like that or 10. So that makes sense. And now they have to support completely legacy users, you know, not more like, you know, new users who have different habits. So now I'm curious, like, how did you come to build these other products? You know, so I guess Feed Hive now is more like in, you know, it's just steering nicely. And I guess, you know, it's kind of like...
Simon Høiberg (14:30)
Yeah.
Dagobert Renouf (14:53)
A lot of features already are built, so you had more time to build other things. How did that happen that you ended up building four other products? I mean, three other.
Simon Høiberg (15:00)
That's a great question. That's
a great question. And it wasn't actually originally planned to do it this way. I started building LinkDrip simply out of people requesting it. ⁓ We had a bunch of users who wanted to have a bit.ly integration, or they wanted to have some of these other smaller niche tools, called Switcheek, which is also a link shortening tool. And at this time, it seemed like the obvious choice to try to go and build a product for this.
separately from Feedhive. So we actually, I actually spent a weekend putting a landing page together for LinkDrip. And then I just published it on social and I made a pop-up show up in Feedhive saying we launched this product and then I sold it as a lifetime deal. I said like, we're gonna be building this product if you want to support us early. Reserve a slot and you can get this and own it forever. So I sold that as a lifetime deal as pre-sales.
And within a month or so, I think we had made around $75,000 just from pre-selling this. And at this time I had spent a weekend building a landing page for it. So it was sort of like a classical validation by pre-sales. And after that, this was slightly pre-AI, so we couldn't use AI to code a whole lot, but now I had money to go on Upwork and find more developers to actually build out this product. And there we go, we had Linktrip. And then...
Dagobert Renouf (16:04)
Wow.
Yeah.
What's interesting is... ⁓
you had distribution from Feed Hive, so you didn't start from scratch. I think that's very interesting. Once you have a product, and I was talking, I remember Mitra was talking about this from Screetshot, Screetshot 1 from the last launch day batch, first batch, and he wants to build another product that's kind of related, using the same bass.
And that makes me think of that. For him, it was like same technical base, different audience. And for you, it's more like same audience, different technical base. But I feel like when you're not big, you don't have huge funding. I think it's like super smart to do this, to build in one direction and grow your distribution in this direction. then, because I mean, it's so hard to have your first success, right? Like your first success is like so hard to get. But once you have it,
Simon Høiberg (17:25)
Stolen agree.
Dagobert Renouf (17:28)
then you can use your mailing list or use whatever like for you like all the users who are active and make a related product. So I think that's quite.
Simon Høiberg (17:37)
I totally agree.
I also think, I also think ⁓ now I sort of rolled into building a portfolio of SaaS products, but there are other founders that do the same levels, Peter levels as one good example, there was John Rush and a few others in this space that do this Tibo, guy that built Tweet Hunter. ⁓ And then myself, we were all building portfolios of SaaS products. And I think that there are, ⁓
Dagobert Renouf (17:58)
Yeah.
Simon Høiberg (18:04)
people who are new on social media and new to indie hacking that don't have an audience yet that think that this is the way they have to do it. And I would advise everyone to start building one product first and then let the demand pull you from there. If people, your users or you're part of your audience specifically asks or shows interest in you building and expanding and building more products, then go do that. I think it's a great way to diversify. But
Dagobert Renouf (18:21)
Yeah.
Simon Høiberg (18:33)
I think there's a tendency that everyone's looking at these portfolio builders and thinking that this is the way to build products nowadays. I don't necessarily agree with that.
Dagobert Renouf (18:43)
Yeah, there's two different ways. The examples you give, it's like a portfolio, but it's based on their audience. What I like with your example is it's not necessarily based on your audience, it's also based on your users. It's like an extension of the product, which I like. So what are the two other products? I remember ⁓ it's Tiny Kiwi, I remember that also. So what are the two last products, if you can quickly talk about?
Simon Høiberg (19:06)
Yes.
The
two last tool is Tiny Kiwi. We were a little bit late to integrate Canva into our tools. This is something that all social media tools did at the time. They have Canva show up inside their tool and then you can create graphics and then it integrates into a tool. Canva closed down for this option just before we got on board. So that sucked a bit and then I spent, I think...
Dagobert Renouf (19:23)
Yeah, I see.
Can you show us a little
bit? Can you show us? Because I realize I'm not sure exactly what you mean.
Simon Høiberg (19:37)
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
sure, sure. Let me see if I can... ⁓
Let me see if I can just share my screen here.
So let's just go into Feed Hive.
I was just going to get loading here. So what many of these social media tools they have is a way to create small pieces of graphic that goes directly into the tool. So I don't have to leave the social media tool as I'm creating content, but Canva. Yeah, exactly. Exactly. And Canva just.
Dagobert Renouf (20:23)
⁓ I see, like an infographic or some illustration to make the post less boring, ok I see.
Simon Høiberg (20:31)
turned this off so we couldn't integrate Canva even if was something our users really asked for. And after a while, this tool called TinyQui, so now I can click a button here and then TinyQui, this graphics tool actually opens inside VDive and now I can...
Dagobert Renouf (20:48)
I remember who built it, was it Yo-C? Who built this? Yeah.
Simon Høiberg (20:51)
Yeah, was Joseph. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So
yeah, I wrote to him on Twitter saying, dude, your tool is really good. Can I integrate this into Feed High? Because our users really want a graphics tool and yours is the thing. Then he didn't reply for like, I think three months or so. And then three months after he came back and said like, no, I'm actually looking to sell this tool. And I immediately jumped on and say like, okay, deal. Let's buy this and...
Dagobert Renouf (21:11)
wow.
That's
awesome, deals between indie makers. Okay, so I see even more now. It's even more clear now for me the value that like, so you have the link shortener is now inside ⁓ the bundle. You have the image generation. So what's the last tool? I'm just curious now what the last tool is.
Simon Høiberg (21:22)
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, so.
I can just show you, can just, if I can, if I can actually type.
can actually show you just right here because before I do the last tool here.
Yeah, now I actually need to remove. So this was one I can have an image from TinyCure and I actually need to remove the image here. Then we should see a ⁓ thing here. Yeah, so here I can actually go and say, ⁓ shorten with link drip. This is the link shortener. this is also integrated into VDive and I can even go here and slightly alter the link if I want this link to be presented in another way. It will actually open ⁓ link drip in.
Dagobert Renouf (22:04)
the real headline or something. no, okay, you had the link, okay.
Simon Høiberg (22:24)
Side feed I've just in the same way as it did with the tiny Kiwi. And so now I get the option to slightly modify, change the image or I can add UTM tag here like Simon Harberg. If I want to have this added to the link, it will bake this into the link. So I can update the link here and now we're gonna actually see here that it will show this. I have configured to use my own custom link here which is Simon link. So all links I share.
Dagobert Renouf (22:29)
I see.
Simon Høiberg (22:53)
automatically becomes Simon link and now that UTM tag will be baked into it. So everything integrates into the same thing. ⁓ the last tool, can you see my screen here as I switch that? Perfect. The last tool is the only one that doesn't integrate directly into the bundle like the two other tools. So this is ⁓ an AI powered support tool called A-Base. ⁓ it is basically offering ⁓ live chat support is actually the one that comes up here.
Dagobert Renouf (23:04)
Yeah, yeah.
Okay.
Simon Høiberg (23:22)
So here I can go and talk directly to my AI ⁓ support agent, which is trained on all the data related to 8Base in this case. It also has ticket support, so we can handle tickets and emails directly in 8Base. And here it also uses AI. So for instance, I have one human support ⁓ person on my team. She's using 8Base because she can answer.
Dagobert Renouf (23:49)
Yeah.
Simon Høiberg (23:51)
users much more effectively using AI. Most of the time, 8Base will guide her by looking at the conversation and all the knowledge has been trained on, will guide her to what the problem probably is. She can also create a quick report that she can share with us and my developer internally on our team. So everyone can move faster this way and have an AI ⁓ augment the support experience for our users. So that's really what 8Base is. It's both an AI directly tool, but it's also a way to have AI.
Dagobert Renouf (24:00)
Yeah.
and
Simon Høiberg (24:21)
help you do better support as a human being.
Dagobert Renouf (24:25)
And it seems like you like to build your, to scratch your own itch. It seems like another product that you had to, I guess you looked at options and you decided to build your own. How did you come to do that, to do this one?
Simon Høiberg (24:39)
I'm just gonna stop the sharing here to get back to this big screen here. Yeah. Great question. This was absolutely scratching my own itch a few years back, especially after the whole Twitter ⁓ API key experience. We were so overwhelmed with support requests and 95 % of everyone was asking the same questions. What happened to Twitter? How can we get Twitter back? Is there a way we can use our own API key? The same three questions over and over and over. And at this point, it just made sense that we...
wouldn't have a human being to sit and do the absolutely super tedious work of replying the same thing over and over and over. So we started early to develop this tool internally. And I think within two months or so, we had a fully working AI that could help 90 % or so of our users simply walking them through the most common issues. And I realized that this was a...
Dagobert Renouf (25:16)
Yeah.
Simon Høiberg (25:35)
possibly a great value for our users. And at the same time, were a products like SiteGPT and Chatbase and some of these tools. think their Chatbase is really, really doing well. I believe SiteGPT is also still doing pretty well today. There's clearly a demand for this. So it made, again, sense to roll this and help other users, help other founders who were in the same situation as me running a small, lean team, self-serve product and want to have a user's
Dagobert Renouf (25:41)
Yeah, remember, yeah.
Simon Høiberg (26:04)
⁓ have a good experience with getting help as fast as possible without necessarily having to wait for our completely understaffed at the time support team.
Dagobert Renouf (26:07)
Yeah.
And now I just have a question about the lifetime deal because I not just relate to launch day but it's always a lifetime deal, right? It's always like it's the way you sell it. ⁓
Simon Høiberg (26:23)
Yes,
you can go and get a subscription on each of these individual tools if that suits you better, but you can also go to FounderStack.pro and then you get the whole bundle. So you can pick each tool individually with FounderStack. you buy the whole bundle of four tools and we actually have two ⁓ upcoming tools. I'm gonna launch two more SaaS products this year. And if you buy...
Dagobert Renouf (26:38)
Yeah.
Simon Høiberg (26:49)
the bundle today, you will automatically get these two tools once they launch. You pre-buy access to these two upcoming tools as well. ⁓
Dagobert Renouf (26:52)
Okay cool, okay.
What's interesting to me is, did you notice ⁓ that it's easier to sell lifetime deals than subscriptions? Because I've seen a lot of people doing that now. And I think it's a new, I guess people are tired of subscriptions and everything. So what was, because you're building usual SaaS products with subscriptions, so how did you reach that stage of, ⁓ and how is it working out? What do you think of lifetime deals now?
Simon Høiberg (27:28)
Well, worth saying, I did actually sell Feedhive as a lifetime deal on AppSumo years ago, just after we launched. So I had some experience with that there. And I did sell access to Linkdrip as a lifetime deal pre-sale. I've done this before, founder stack as well. I think there's obviously a lot of people objecting against the idea of lifetime deals. And I understand the reasoning.
It's a little bit dangerous selling something that you need to support with ongoing costs for a lifetime purchase. I do think there are multiple elements in this and this differs a little bit from product to product. In our case, we sell the whole bundle for $12.99. Right now, it's actually discounted to $7.99, but $12.99 is the normal price.
We have carefully calculated that if you just look at the operational cost in terms of server cost for one user to spend, ⁓ to cost us $1,299, even $799, the discounted price, it will take the average user decades before they ever become a losing investment for us. So when I sold products on AppSumo, I think we sold the cheapest plan for $49.
Dagobert Renouf (28:45)
Yeah, yeah, yeah, for sure.
Simon Høiberg (28:55)
And I would not recommend people go out and doing that. So it's about finding a packaging your products in a way that carries enough value that you can set the price high. That's...
Dagobert Renouf (29:04)
Yeah, and maybe
some of the products cost you way less to run than others, but they make the price of the bundle go up and like in a way, it's kind of like packaging everything, like kind of like a sales technique.
Simon Høiberg (29:11)
they do.
Exactly. And
most people who buy FounderStack, they don't use all four products equally. So they will typically be using one product. Like someone might want them all, but they'll use FeedHive mostly, or they'll use 8Base mostly. So it's not like we get one user equally using and starving on our ⁓ cloud cost on all four products. And with AI, that's the most expensive one and the one to be a little bit careful about. And we solved it in a very simple way. We offer
Dagobert Renouf (29:31)
Yeah.
Simon Høiberg (29:46)
some AI credits for all users every month. That's part of the deal. But after that, they need to bring their own API key from OpenAI if they want to continue using it. So there's a cap of how much AI they can use.
Dagobert Renouf (29:49)
Yeah.
Yeah, it makes sense.
But that's an interesting approach to selling lifetime deals with tools that require AI to run. So you have this problem of credits, and that's a nice way to solve it.
Cool man, so thank you for sponsoring this launch day. You're gonna be an OG because you're the number two sponsor, if this keeps going, hopefully this keeps going for a long time, you would be in that category. So thanks so much for your support. I just can vouch for the quality, because even though you're a sponsor, I'm still super selective. I want everything on this launch day to be cool products.
Simon Høiberg (30:13)
Pleasure.
That's awesome.
Dagobert Renouf (30:37)
So yeah, I can vouch for the quality of what you're building. So I highly recommend people to check it out.
Simon Høiberg (30:43)
Very happy to hear that, man. Thanks a lot.
Dagobert Renouf (30:46)
Cheers.