Sylvester Stallone and His Friends' Films Podcast | Rocky II (Episode 7) - Mickey's Tough Love & Rock Bottom Scene

Join Ryan, Kyle, and Katie for another fun-filled episode of One More Round: The Rocky Series Podcast as we break down key scenes from Rocky II! We discuss Rocky's emotional rock bottom, his heartfelt conversation with Mickey at the gym, the powerful stairs scenes, and what it means for the Italian Stallion's future in the ring.

Plus: Sly news with the hilarious Paramount+ "Stallone Face" Super Bowl commercial featuring his daughters, updates on his upcoming reality show, an in-depth email from our favorite German listener Patrick about the toxic drama on the Stallone Zone forum regarding Creed III, and speculation on Creed IV. We also play Rocky trivia and chat vacations, vacation policies, and more!

0:00 - Intro & Listener Vacations

3:53 - Sly News: Paramount+ Commercial & Reality Show

7:14 - Email from Patrick: Stallone Zone Forum Drama & Creed Thoughts

17:58 - Creed III/IV Discussion & Gatekeeping

23:50 - Rocky Trivia

25:50 - Rocky II Scene Breakdown: Walk with Butkus & Mickey Reunion

31:28 - "You'll Go Blind" Eye Test & Emotional Locker Room Talk

42:34 - Rock Bottom & Working at the Gym

47:15 - Episode Wrap-Up & Trivia Answers

Creators and Guests

Host

Katie Geilenkirchen

Host

Kyle Pederson

Host

Ryan Rebalkin

What is Sylvester Stallone and His Friends' Films Podcast ?

Welcome to the *Sylvester Stallone and Friends* podcast, your go-to show for fans of Sylvester Stallone’s action-packed legacy, hosted by Ryan and a variety of other passionate hosts! This podcast dives deep into Stallone’s standalone films and those of his action-hero contemporaries, with special episodes dedicated to Frank Stallone. Please note that *Rocky* and *Rambo* are covered exclusively on our sister podcasts, *One More Round: The Rocky Series Podcast* and *It’s a Long Road: The Rambo Series Podcast*. Join us for engaging discussions, behind-the-scenes insights, and a nostalgic celebration of the films that defined a genre. Whether you’re a longtime fan or new to the scene, subscribe to the *Sylvester Stallone and Friends* feed for action-packed episodes you won’t want to miss!

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0:077 secondsbecause I go in a woman around when you don't take your care that's what makes all the difference in
0:1515 secondsyour life you know what I mean
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0:4747 secondswelcome to another episode of one more round the rocky series podcast I am your host and with me today is Kyle and Katie
0:5656 secondswe're doing back to backs we usually do episodes every two weeks but because of Katie you're going to another vacation
1:041 minute, 4 secondsso what do you tell the listeners where you're going oh this is just like a super quick little getaway to Puerto Vallarta with
1:131 minute, 13 secondsumbrella drink or probably some bubbly for me sure and get some sun beach pool yeah nice it's been really cold I need
1:211 minute, 21 secondssome warm weather fair fair just a quick quick trip but I will be gone on Sunday yes so you won't be here for our usual
1:291 minute, 29 secondsbi-weekly recording so that means if you're listening to this show and you listen to the Ramble podcast as well that means the Ramble podcast was bumped
1:361 minute, 36 secondsa week so that will be the episode following this one for my recording schedule if people are interested or fall both shows so that's why there was
1:431 minute, 43 secondsa break between the ramble we're accommodating Katie she used the priority obviously no no no but I appreciate appreciate it appreciate it
1:521 minute, 52 secondsKyle how are you doing are you going on vacation Kyle no not this week but probably in May so I have a few months to go nice we're gonna go well it's a
2:012 minutes, 1 secondfamily trip we're going uh East Coast we're gonna go to the Halifax and then my wife's family lives in Newfoundland so
2:082 minutes, 8 secondsoh my father-in-law a couple years ago passed away covid and so they're going to spread his ashes theirs oh yeah Newfoundlands I'm really far away for
2:162 minutes, 16 secondsAmerican listeners if you go to the most eastern point in the U.S like uh Maine Newfoundland St John's is 500 miles east
2:242 minutes, 24 secondsof that so it was really far out there so it takes a long time to get there so because you're going so far away are you
2:322 minutes, 32 secondsgonna make the most of it and stay for a bit not too too long probably gonna be like a week and a half or something like that that's a long time no here's one
2:402 minutes, 40 secondsthing I learned with my quick trips to Mexico especially in Puerto Vallarta that seems to be a popular Canadian spot I meet a lot of Canadians when I go there they're like you're here for three
2:482 minutes, 48 secondsdays four days it blows their mind they're like we're here for two weeks that's too long like if I go to Europe or something it's two weeks because you
2:562 minutes, 56 secondsgotta get used to the time and stuff like that but yeah and it's farther away 40 hours a three-hour flight so right it's fine but also they're like you know
3:053 minutes, 5 secondsus Americans in our vacation days we have to hoard them a little bit and Canadians must have a more liberal
3:133 minutes, 13 secondsvacation policy or something it depends I know Europeans get a ton of time off they get way more than us I get four
3:203 minutes, 20 secondsweeks that's a lot I get five I mean yeah who's counting that's great that's great that's because you're you're on the
3:273 minutes, 27 secondsgovernment teeth there right that's right I know I get five paid weeks off a year plus lots of early days here and there
3:363 minutes, 36 secondsdepending on the program somebody gets six in the UK who said that yeah that's normal in Europe like that's not yeah unreasonable I think the French get
3:443 minutes, 44 secondseven more than that yeah they might get six weeks in the UK but they don't get dental plan so have you seen it'll knock on the English teeth gotta
3:533 minutes, 53 secondsdo the knock at the English teacher okay us Americans kind of do things backwards Sly news not too much for Sly news off the top of my head other than he was on
4:014 minutes, 1 seconda commercial for Paramount plus it's a nice little surprise it was a Super Bowl ad so at the time it's recording the Super Bowl being the week actually when this episode drops it's going to be
4:094 minutes, 9 secondsSuper Bowl weekend I believe it's weird how Super Bowl commercials now leak not leak or they're shown on YouTube week or two in advance before the actual Super
4:174 minutes, 17 secondsBowls run I don't know why they do that but hey gets it gets eyes on the prize whatever it's all advertisement so Paramount plus did a great little Montage of some of their characters Star
4:254 minutes, 25 secondsTrek Dragon Dora the Explorer and part of that commercial course was Sly hanging on a cliff or a rock face like a
4:334 minutes, 33 secondsla Cliffhanger and he's hanging on the Mount Rushmore of himself which is kind of funny it was like a younger version of himself carved Down Stone on the
4:404 minutes, 40 secondsmountain what I thought was kind of neat was is that it was a he's literally the face of Paramount plus right now Tulsa King is doing really well obviously Sly
4:494 minutes, 49 secondsis a big name like how slice having fun with himself too and then it's a silly campaign is meant to be silly of course
4:564 minutes, 56 secondssico uh her a long time what do you call him yeah you sequel the cynic that's probably the best way to describe it so of course he he know he tries to stay in
5:055 minutes, 5 secondsour little chat group isn't that a terrible commercial for slightly like anything slide does it's got to be garbage yeah it's like no one commented on either because I I thought it was
5:135 minutes, 13 secondsadorable it's just fun is it silly yes it is hammy but it was meant to be hammy it wasn't meant yeah yeah and his
5:215 minutes, 21 secondsdaughters were in it and because their show the Stallone what's the reality show going
5:305 minutes, 30 secondsyeah anyway so yeah he really is like so he's gonna have two shows on it and it was adorable they were kind of poking fun yeah he does this our dad does this
5:385 minutes, 38 secondseven my wife says she's gonna watch the uh Stone family reality show with me yeah oh yeah I thought the commercial was perfect it was it was clever
5:475 minutes, 47 secondsadorable it it's silly and I like slightly silly just because and good for him 71 five
5:545 minutes, 54 secondssix years old and he's the face of Paramount right now they're using his face in Celebrity by all means and his daughters looked adorable and it's gonna
6:026 minutes, 2 secondsonly be Eight Episodes by the way according to IMDb the reality show or the behind the scenes I hate the term reality show but what I really like
6:096 minutes, 9 secondsabout this is that we actually do get the peak behind the curtain even Slide the slides said that that's one reason why he agrees it he wants people to see him as Sly not the guy on screen I think
6:186 minutes, 18 secondswe're gonna see it yeah he kind of wants to people to see him as a father and and a husband and and I'm really glad that him and Jennifer for whatever reason
6:266 minutes, 26 secondsthey're together because I think they are great together can you imagine I mean obviously anybody growing up famous has a different reality than an average
6:356 minutes, 35 secondsperson I was trying to put myself in the shoes of one of his daughter of his daughters because he has three daughters and I am one of three like our family
6:426 minutes, 42 secondshas three daughters too can you imagine if Sylvester Stallone was your father to them he's just Dad yeah and I think that's gonna be people alive that's
6:506 minutes, 50 secondsgonna be sorry I give me a step one here that's gonna be the that's gonna be the draw is you're gonna see these girls take big man's Sly tough guy Sly and
6:586 minutes, 58 secondshe's going to be wrapped around their fingers that's the draws you can see from their Instagram videos that they have a lot of fun together they'll probably treat them like a dad it'll be fun for us as an audience to kind of see
7:077 minutes, 7 secondsSly being very human with uh with his daughters well the other thing we have is kind of ties into some Creed news but before we talk about the Creed news
7:147 minutes, 14 secondslet's read the email that we got from uh our favorite German I I thought we lost him but he's back yeah we have an email from Patrick his messages his emails are
7:227 minutes, 22 secondsso well written so they're easy to read English this is not his first language but he still writes really eloquently
7:307 minutes, 30 secondsanyway and it's not your first language either so I should read them cold because
7:387 minutes, 38 secondsbecause Punctuation is important people and so it's my fault sometimes I drop them to you a little bit late I got this one to you the day before so did you get you got a chance to read it okay I did
7:477 minutes, 47 secondsbut no ordinarily I don't I read them called it's my fault uh he says no no no no I'm just a better podcast would be
7:547 minutes, 54 secondsmore prepared than us but uh yeah maybe you read well thanks you lie well thanks
8:018 minutes, 1 secondhello Ryan Kyle and Katie after more than a year I'm finally back not that I was missed but still you were you wondered yeah you were yeah your
8:098 minutes, 9 secondsfavorite German am I still after such a long time yeah I think so yeah for sure Patrick it's a pretty shallow pool of
8:168 minutes, 16 secondsGerman listeners so it's not hard to be number one but sure I think we have a few German listeners but he's definitely he's the only one that talks to us so do
8:248 minutes, 24 secondswe know any of the other ones other than just seeing user stats that like there's x amount of people in Germany that listen that's all we know is a number of
8:318 minutes, 31 secondsdrama listeners but yeah Patrick you were number two to German listener number four for a while but then now this bumps you back up to number one
8:398 minutes, 39 secondsindeed so he says I just needed some rocky podcast break as I previously listened to all the older episodes of Rocky Rocky 2 and so on and I didn't
8:488 minutes, 48 secondswant to jump from Creed 2 into the first Rocky again I hope you understand we forgive me yeah yeah I just listened to episode 17 of your Rocky coverage in the
8:578 minutes, 57 secondsbeginning you talked about the Creed 3 trailer and Creed 3 in general I'd like to join in on that discussion first I'd like to thank you thank you for talking
9:059 minutes, 5 secondsso reasonably and without hate about Creed 3. I think we have been reasonable I think all of our criticism regarding Michael B throughout Creed one and two
9:139 minutes, 13 secondsdiscussions that we did on Going the Distance we were clear about what our criticisms were but we were also refer to Michael B when he did better
9:229 minutes, 22 secondsthroughout Creed too they didn't create one so we're not fan boys or anti-creed I think we're pretty reasonable rationally minded people are are it's a
9:309 minutes, 30 secondsgood quality he says as you might remember Ryan I sent you a personal message on Instagram where I mentioned the toxic atmosphere on the Stallone
9:379 minutes, 37 secondsZone Forum Sly himself posted there from time to time last year sharing background information on the Winkler situation there is a message board group
9:459 minutes, 45 secondsand you can Google it I'm a part of it you can see my name unlike some people in that group I use my actual name because I don't need to hide behind my
9:539 minutes, 53 secondscomments or what have you I don't comment very often you know how some people are right they're very brave when they're Anonymous I don't go there very often but usually I go there when I hear
10:0010 minutesa bit of drama and here we go so as one member posted a YouTube video from John campea a movie News host where pompea
10:1010 minutes, 10 secondswithout knowing the background stuff didn't understand why Sly was so angry at Winkler so I was ticked off and he left the zone so some guy guy who
10:1810 minutes, 18 secondsdoesn't know the background drama and I love Sly but this is a little ridiculous so Sly would frequent the Stallone's own form he would actually frequent it and
10:2610 minutes, 26 secondscomment and have like little surprise visits and it was him so you're saying or Patrick's saying that some guy unbeknownst to the whole background why
10:3510 minutes, 35 secondswould he know so if you're not a Stallone nut why would you know about Stone's feelings on every matter regarding so he posts some arbitrary
10:4210 minutes, 42 secondsthing Sloan didn't like it and left the Stallone's own Forum group interesting okay I just want to be sure everyone's following this so far okay I like your
10:4910 minutes, 49 secondsadditional color after that a forum leader let's call him something we're being anonymous he gave us the initials in the email we're not going to give the
10:5810 minutes, 58 secondsinitials because people will know right away who they're talking about so we're just going to leave it at there's somebody in the Stallone Zone who will
11:0511 minutes, 5 secondskeep an honest we'll call them lab yeah we'll call him Bob that's fair Bob literally took over the Forum insulting
11:1211 minutes, 12 secondspeople for driving Sly away insulting people if they still had any interest in Creed 3 as they would be backstabbing Sly who said that he didn't have
11:2111 minutes, 21 secondsanything to do with creature and wished he hadn't done Creed and Creed 2.
11:2511 minutes, 25 secondsthreads were deleted fine members were banned it was and still is toxic over there the thinking of most Forum members
11:3311 minutes, 33 secondsis if you are interested in Creed 3 and even support it by watching it at the cinema you are disrespectful towards Sly
11:4011 minutes, 40 secondsand if you're against Sly you are against me that form leader at the very least Bob wrote it that way Bob's
11:4711 minutes, 47 secondsserving a cult or something the slide cult you're gonna have to start paying him and [ __ ] people at our Discord because this is all gonna be private you guys can go ahead and make your guesses
11:5611 minutes, 56 secondsin Discord I'll allow that Bob is not a member of this Discord so go ahead and knock your socks off um yeah
12:0412 minutes, 4 seconds[Laughter]
12:0712 minutes, 7 secondshas got it okay so here's my response so Patrick thank you for sharing that because like I said I don't visit the stone Zone Forum very often I usually
12:1512 minutes, 15 secondsonly go there but I think the last time I went there was I heard that Sly was posted in there so I went back there to read slice post I was very interested I did read all the things he said about
12:2312 minutes, 23 secondsWinkler he did some q a like you said Katie and the email I apologize for interrupting this is why I wanted to make this clear so Sloan leaves the
12:3112 minutes, 31 secondsForum and then Bob comes in and says you bunch of idiots insulting whatever like Patrick's a very even kill guy so Patrick's saying that there was insults
12:3912 minutes, 39 secondsthrown there's probably insults thrown and those comments have been deleted by the way I went back and looked at Bob's threads and a lot of the insults that were thrown or what have you have been
12:4612 minutes, 46 secondsdeleted have been cleaned up Bob comes in and says you guys drove Sly away big one for me though not even that is saying if you watch Creed 3 in the
12:5512 minutes, 55 secondstheaters you're stabbing slime in the back I want to comment that this is me using my freedom of speech and my platform to say I think I don't think
13:0213 minutes, 2 secondsthat stabbing slime in the back now you I know Katie you're a huge Sly fan your intention is actually to see Cree 3 like I mentioned our previous episode with your friend in the theater I don't think
13:1013 minutes, 10 secondsyou're gonna seek it out but your friend wants to walk in the theater so yeah I'll go with you do you feel like your stabbing slide in the back not at all I do love Sly and I will come to his
13:1813 minutes, 18 secondsrescue when someone attacks him more personally I don't think this is a personal attack it's in fact despite him not having anything to do with it
13:2613 minutes, 26 secondsthere's a level of curiosity there but it is an extension of a world that he created I do come to his defense not
13:3413 minutes, 34 secondsthat he needs it he's a but I do get sick of people assuming that he's dumb or that he's not a good actor I'll be like no no he is and here's why but it's
13:4313 minutes, 43 secondsnot a personal attack it's a piece of art that is an extension of what he created I love the rocky world I think
13:4913 minutes, 49 secondsthis is ridiculous the gatekeeping informed is that what you're referring to yeah okay yeah like though if you do this you're supporting him it's like
13:5813 minutes, 58 secondswhat what a first world looking problem right oh this is your ethical Injustice that you're standing up to of all the
14:0614 minutes, 6 secondscrazy [ __ ] it that happens in this world this is what you're going to focus on I don't care if Irwin Winkler makes money
14:1314 minutes, 13 secondsor Sly makes money I do feel bad for Sly in the situation with everyone Claire I'm not saying that PSY doesn't have a legitimate complaint I'd be upset if I
14:2214 minutes, 22 secondswere in his shoes too but to go on a form and insult people and say that oh if you're supporting so and so you're
14:2814 minutes, 28 secondsyou're stabbing Sly in the back and I think it's silliness it doesn't really affect Sly you go see Creed 3 I find it
14:3814 minutes, 38 secondsreally Petty and I really don't like it when people almost comment for lack of it better were worship other people like
14:4514 minutes, 45 secondsthat you could be a big Sly fan and that's fine but I find this in sports too or in music someone will be really
14:5214 minutes, 52 secondsinto their band or really into their sports team or really into their favorite actor or something like that and then they take personally anything
15:0115 minutes, 1 secondthat happens to this other person's life get a [ __ ] life like it's so ridiculous our podcast is we are fans of
15:1015 minutes, 10 secondscourse of Rocky of me of Rambo and Sly films and he is my screen here I've always said I was a child teenager I
15:1815 minutes, 18 secondsworshiped at the idol yes Idol of sly's films absolutely obviously him as a person there's things he's done in his life that I'm not crazy about and things
15:2615 minutes, 26 secondsthat he's in his life that I am crazy about just like me of those things in my life I'm crazy about those things in my life I'm not crazy about it and I should be my biggest fan right and I think
15:3315 minutes, 33 secondswe've always been very clear about our fandom regarding Sly Sly said himself he wished that every stop or my mom will shoot film I think or one of those films was burnt and
15:4215 minutes, 42 secondsnobody had ever watched them so if you watch those films you're stabbing him in the back as you wish he never did it good point so there's a lot of films that a lot of actors have wished they
15:5015 minutes, 50 secondsnever did that's all Sai saying like he wish he never did okay fine whatever his reasons are fine that's fine but guess what Sly I like the films now I'm sorry you didn't like them I actually don't
15:5915 minutes, 59 secondscare I actually don't care if you like them or not I actually enjoyed Creed one and two ironically Sly was the least of the problems in the films so he should
16:0816 minutes, 8 secondsPat himself on the back for professionally coming to front of the camera knocking it out of the park despite his feelings he was a professional he did the job knocked out
16:1716 minutes, 17 secondsthe park he's not doing Creed Three and he's not helping out with it again I support him in the sense yeah that's your choice it's art man like if you don't want to be a help in the film or
16:2516 minutes, 25 secondshelp with the editing that apparently if that's true that Michael asks you to help up with some tweaking and you said no thank you I don't blame you but it's still not gonna stop me from seeing the
16:3316 minutes, 33 secondsfilm I have to if Creed 10 comes out I'm gonna have to see it just because this thing keeps going right you sometimes you get into this train of
16:4116 minutes, 41 secondsfilms you don't know why do I keep watching this I don't know but you just keep watching so and that's why they get made that big problem in Hollywood Avatar They're Gonna Keep churning out
16:5116 minutes, 51 secondsthese sequels because you feel a sense of obligation to go watch them but I officially quit Star Wars a while ago
16:5816 minutes, 58 secondslet's say I was a big Star Wars geek so now I'm Gonna Keep Your fandom like that's your family yeah that's your journey okay so I don't know why people have to geek and I'll say this is my
17:0717 minutes, 7 secondslast thing Gatekeepers in general and I don't I don't think it's very nice I'm gonna be I don't think it's nice to tell people how to feel it doesn't make sense
17:1517 minutes, 15 secondsto me it's like you will like the slice of pizza well I don't like the pizza no I like it if you don't eat this pizza you're gonna salt the chefs no no I just
17:2217 minutes, 22 secondsdon't like it or I do like whatever like why are we telling people how to feel about something is and you're saying this is a personal attack on a celebrity
17:3017 minutes, 30 secondsbecause you're watching a movie no maybe Patrick misread things so by all means if Bob or anyone else from Bob Camp wants to reach out to us and just say
17:3717 minutes, 37 secondswhat it is they did say and and clarify the situation that'd be great too because right now we only have Patrick's side of the story but I don't think Patrick would lie he might be
17:4517 minutes, 45 secondsmisinformed or maybe misread things but if he felt there was toxicity on that form run by somebody that's what he again that's what he felt and saw but
17:5217 minutes, 52 secondsI'd be curious to hear the rebuttal if we hear one I think you were probably going down the path of the news about Creed Three oh that Michael B Jordan
18:0118 minutes, 1 secondannounced that there for sure is going to be a Creed 4. that was big news I posted that in the group in our Facebook
18:0818 minutes, 8 secondsgroup and I didn't post my feelings I just posted the article and it was interesting to see of course people are like this is stupid Cree 3 hasn't come out yet and some people were like hey
18:1618 minutes, 16 secondsthat's great and again I didn't comment on anyone's opinions I want people that you know especially in our Facebook group to share their opinions as long as no one's attacking anyone else
18:2418 minutes, 24 secondsdisagreeing opinions is great that's a the discourse should be allowed to happen I want to hear different opinions and different reasons why people were respectful nobody attacked anybody in
18:3318 minutes, 33 secondsthe group regarding their different opinions here's my guess Cree 3 is probably a good film it's probably well made it's probably well executed does it
18:4018 minutes, 40 secondsbreak new ground unlikely like top gun Maverick didn't break new ground as far as storytelling went but it was a fun film and it was an amazing you know
18:4818 minutes, 48 secondsspecial not special effects with the jet flying but it was just Top Gun done better okay so Cree three will probably be in that vein of more family drama you
18:5718 minutes, 57 secondsknow the Creeds and their daughter drama who knows what kind of drama outside the ring will be and then he fights in the ring and goes against the odds and
19:0519 minutes, 5 secondsovercomes him or doesn't or who knows maybe Creed 4 is his Redemption story maybe he loses the belt in Cree three that's why there's a Creed Four who knows whether I watched Creed 4 will
19:1419 minutes, 14 secondsdepend on Crete 3. I feel like I have to endure Creed 3 then this is coming from me yeah and I've been the kind of the hardest on Michael B I suspect the film
19:2219 minutes, 22 secondswould be fine I can't imagine it's going to suck it's not going to suckers is coming but I saw the trailer
19:3019 minutes, 30 secondsfor Creed Three and I'm like yeah I'd watch that yeah but it looks good I haven't seen the trailer yet I'm going in cold but I suspect it'll be a fun film yeah it'll be good and I mean maybe
19:3919 minutes, 39 secondsthey just do that they have ways of um estimating earnings and whatnot probably until they've already yeah that's why
19:4719 minutes, 47 secondsthey've already or the company seen the Final Cut and they're very happy with it which is a good sign yeah could be so the age thing is going to come into play
19:5419 minutes, 54 secondsit's just gonna be like Rocky he's gonna now be like a 40 year old fighting you know in Creed Four probably anyway I regret regardless I do think Creed 3
20:0220 minutes, 2 secondswill be good it's the Swirls and I love the world so I want to keep watching Donald Barbara great point he said this and Donald's you know I always say
20:1020 minutes, 10 secondsDonald should run a podcast Donald said if Creed does well hypothetically maybe Sly comes back for creed 4. yeah maybe Sly gets his Rocky seven
20:1920 minutes, 19 secondsor spin-off Etc if Creed dies like the franchise dies Rocky dies so how does that help anyone so exactly he's speaking maybe Against
20:2720 minutes, 27 secondsThe Gatekeepers we said this we've actually said so I think Donald's repeatable we've said but in a much better way we've said that we want Creed 3 to do well too because it's part of
20:3620 minutes, 36 secondsthe rocky why I don't want it to fail so a gatekeeper Bob that's my response to you is why would you want this don't tell Rocky fans Not to see us because
20:4420 minutes, 44 secondspeople will go see Cree 3 and what will they do oh I want to watch the other Creed films or you want it to do well because it's connected to the character
20:5120 minutes, 51 secondsin general if Cree 3 is a garbage show do you want that to be the last note on this universe right that's a good point additionally there was in that same
21:0021 minutesarticle that you posted about that Creed 4 is greenlit that's the only for sure thing there's still talk about other spin-offs or prequels or sequels or
21:0721 minutes, 7 secondswhatever and so I personally would love to see the dragos spin off yeah and you know prequels I'm a little I'm I'm
21:1521 minutes, 15 secondsanybody who's gonna play Rocky I don't know I don't know if I like that but sure that might be a type of build yeah maybe sorry when you said the dragos I
21:2421 minutes, 24 secondsimmediately thought of like some sitcom where it's like wouldn't that be funny actually that'd be hilarious if it was like a 90s show
21:3321 minutes, 33 secondstype Drago version yeah to speak to Kyle's Point Kyle said exactly what I'm afraid of he just said I've stopped watching the Star Wars films because
21:4021 minutes, 40 secondsthey've butchered them or they wrecked the whatever the the universe so that's exactly what I mean is we want Creed 3 to be a good film because we
21:4921 minutes, 49 secondsdon't want Kyle's well we don't want people to be upset with the fandom so we we wanted to do well what I found was it's just some degree
21:5721 minutes, 57 secondsit's just regurgitating the same old [ __ ] and and really relying on the Nostalgia of like when I watch a sequel
22:0422 minutes, 4 secondslike this I try to say to myself barring relying on past knowledge if I had to see this film independently not knowing
22:1222 minutes, 12 secondsthe previous films existed if it was white for my memory but I actually enjoyed this film or am I just reliving The Nostalgia of the original Star Wars
22:2022 minutes, 20 secondsor whatever it was and I just found it's like I just keep going to these movies oh it's the same old crap I'm like I'm done you know oh it's not like that the
22:2922 minutes, 29 secondsnext one's gonna be better and it's I'm just like nope I'm finished yeah the rocky Universe from Rocky the first Rocky film to Creed 2 is an amazing
22:3722 minutes, 37 secondsjourney of quality films for either for fun even Rocky five well I was thinking of Rocky five yesterday I was thinking
22:4422 minutes, 44 secondsof it and I'm like it is slowly climbing up the ranks of my favorite Rocky movies it's a good family drama
22:5222 minutes, 52 secondsRocky 5 is like one of those cheeses that if you're not used to eating it it's disgusting but if you have that
22:5822 minutes, 58 secondsrefined palette actually whatever it's like if you're used to
23:0623 minutes, 6 secondseating like cheese Kraft cheese slices or something maybe that's not the best analogy it's a good one like because Rocky IV would be the American singer
23:1323 minutes, 13 secondsAmerica the American cheddar yeah okay so when poor Patrick will finish this email here yeah yeah okay so
23:2123 minutes, 21 secondsdiscussion email though thank you Patrick so he goes on to say I tried to separate life from art and although I hate what they did to Sly I'm still interested in Creed 3. I think he means
23:3023 minutes, 30 secondsI still stay on that Forum yeah I'm one of the very few left doing so so listening to you three guys talk about Cree three in such a calm and relaxed
23:3723 minutes, 37 secondsway made my day I'm very much looking forward to the next episodes cheers Patrick thanks Patrick still our favorite German I really enjoyed
23:4423 minutes, 44 secondsinteracting with Patrick on previous uh yeah she came in for a call in on one of her finales yeah yeah
23:5123 minutes, 51 secondsokay awesome stuff well without further Ado let's roll into the uh the next sequence of the film here Rocky 2. oh do we are we gonna skip Trivia today no
24:0024 minuteswe're not I reminded you before we started that I actually remembered myself and then I forgot I see every recording okay here we go number 31 what
24:0924 minutes, 9 secondsteams were playing in the football game that was on when Rocky turned on the TV and what was the score oh my God okay
24:1824 minutes, 18 secondswhat was the score is a little bit much Rocco come on now you can ask the teams but come on man if anyone gets the teams
24:2624 minutes, 26 secondsI think that's good enough I think we should put two teams down but I'm wrong I'm probably I don't know but anyway imagine it's the same two teams that are in the Super Bowl this week yeah okay
24:3524 minutes, 35 secondsokay that's all I gotta put I don't even know what scores could be in football like you know what I mean I know that much at least I know that much okay it's
24:4424 minutes, 44 secondslike three to one what well that's possible you could have a few years you'll go with a safety or something like that okay all right yeah yeah yeah it's just unusual of course it's three
24:5324 minutes, 53 secondsto one yeah all right Rocco that one coming in coming in hot with that one sorry what round did Rocky tell Mickey that Apollo broke his nose okay that's
25:0225 minutes, 2 secondsfair that's a fair yeah basically in what round yeah okay we break his nose okay I know the first one because he says it's really down so like what was
25:0925 minutes, 9 secondsthe previous round basically yeah what is the name of the company that wants to produce the Rocky doll oh okay that's burned in my mind oh God we just covered
25:1925 minutes, 19 secondsit too and I it's like you know what I might get I'm might be zero for three so far this is a bad I could hear that nice voice in my head saying I can too in his
25:2725 minutes, 27 secondsaccent I think I'll think of it what did Rocky say after Adrian said you read nice there you go finally finally I will get
25:3625 minutes, 36 secondsthat one for sure since we role played that earlier episode my go-to I say it and I think we'll get this one too who
25:4325 minutes, 43 secondssaid you'll go blind all right here we go so Adrian Rocky had their talk in the basement he's had a supper that Adrian made him after supper Rocky goes for a
25:5125 minutes, 51 secondswalk classic shot of the train yeah
26:0126 minutes, 1 secondhe's still for that area I'll probably get beat up or something you guys don't like the jacket but I it
26:0826 minutes, 8 secondsfits in so well I love the jacket you like the jacket it's not like the Tiger on the back of it the actual jacket itself is fine it's Unique too it's not
26:1626 minutes, 16 secondslike a regular button it's it's got a unique fit to it and but because in his Eagle's Jersey go Eagles the Super Bowl there you go cheering for the Eagles I'm
26:2526 minutes, 25 secondsnot into NFL at all but I'm gonna cheer for the Eagles just because of a soft
26:3226 minutes, 32 secondsspot for Philly yeah thanks to Rocky sorry are they playing San Francisco the Chiefs oh Kansas City I think right yeah
26:4026 minutes, 40 secondsand and he's got like um I don't follow any of this but I actually do kind of like Kansas City they're adorable cute little quarterback is like a a nice
26:4826 minutes, 48 secondshuman and he's everyone loves him oh okay I usually cheer for a team if I have a soft spot for the place they're from and that I usually cheer for the
26:5726 minutes, 57 secondsteam that hasn't won a championship that's in the final oh sure but both have but Philly's been longer than Kansas so that's why I'm also going for Philly because it's been a longer time
27:0527 minutes, 5 secondssince their chance so that's kind of how I do it they both have won a championship who's been longer spread the wealth okay so the uh so Rockies walk with Butkus to visit Mickey at the
27:1327 minutes, 13 secondsgym and there's the competing Pet Shop across the street we ought to forget there's like competing Crazy Town get rid of the name somebody's got something
27:2227 minutes, 22 secondsit's like this is the pet shop District in Philly I think that's what I'll call us
27:2627 minutes, 26 seconds[Music]
27:3127 minutes, 31 secondsforeign
27:3427 minutes, 34 seconds[Music]
27:4127 minutes, 41 secondstakes the key out of his hat you know what I've never noticed that before all these years yeah just like a Mandela effect I've never
27:5027 minutes, 50 secondsseen him take the cat the key out of his hat to open the door do you guys always catch it I have either no I never like it didn't like register in my brain that
27:5727 minutes, 57 secondsthat's what was happening it's a nice little call back to the first film where he gets his locker combination out of his hat that is a storage device somehow
28:0528 minutes, 5 secondsnow did you guys ever notice I I know we're gonna like I don't want to comment on every little thing but how dare we on he doesn't has anybody noticed that he
28:1428 minutes, 14 secondsdoesn't actually have a leash for Butkus it's a rope because he's badass man yeah Ah that's funny you think like when he
28:2228 minutes, 22 secondswent to the pet shop and bought a bunch of stuff he could have got a leash but yeah he got the studded collar but yeah who needs a who needs a leash
28:3228 minutes, 32 secondsforeign
28:3828 minutes, 38 seconds[Music]
28:4428 minutes, 44 secondswhat time do you think it is though it's dark he's just a little jump yeah a little jumpy and Rocky's got a key so it's just interesting how maybe Rocky
28:5328 minutes, 53 secondsdoesn't do nighttime visits so I love him because he's got his pipe he's ready to lay since you know that's a good scare tactic like it's not improbable it's someone to break into his place
29:0129 minutes, 1 secondgood point it is not a big this is not it is a bit of a rough neighborhood is that Rocky
29:1029 minutes, 10 secondshey I don't remember giving you no key even though we hear him say I don't remember giving you a key I never saw
29:1729 minutes, 17 secondshim do it my brain never saw the action happen so he actually knowledges or I don't remember giving you no key and I
29:2529 minutes, 25 secondsalso love how he says Avon lady that looks like your face there Kitty have you ever caught the Avon lady comment I have but it's just so I mean Avon has
29:3329 minutes, 33 secondsbeen around for a long time but this was probably Prime Avon lady late 70s maybe into the 80s and it's just cute uh yeah
29:4029 minutes, 40 secondsThe Prodigal Son Returns come up here I love that The Prodigal Son a prodigal summary today
29:4929 minutes, 49 secondswhat's that outer space monster you're right that book is that in your ear there what is it this day I hear stupid
29:5929 minutes, 59 secondsthings better well a lot of fun little band to hear between trainer and and Rocky uh you know Mickey's saying you know space creature you got there you
30:0730 minutes, 7 secondsknow the big dog and then Rocky says well what do you got in your ear there I hear and I love that answer I hear stupid things better which is so true
30:1430 minutes, 14 secondsthe majority of the stuff we hear in life is just I don't need to listen to this our podcast for example he hears our podcast better
30:2130 minutes, 21 secondsyeah yeah against sly's writing now I don't know if Burgess Meredith improvised that but I assume a lot of
30:2930 minutes, 29 secondsthis banter is slice writing so it's a great I love that banter and so if not Mickey's like okay great now that the small talk is over did you just come here to show me that dog he doesn't give
30:3830 minutes, 38 secondsa [ __ ] about the dog or the turtles he because he wanted to make soup out of them yeah Mickey doesn't care he's anti-pet I have a brother well so I have
30:4630 minutes, 46 secondsa brother Reuben Reuben's anti-pet oh yeah I find it strange I'm a little suspect of anti-pet people he's funny about that he's a little funny I love
30:5430 minutes, 54 secondshim he doesn't he doesn't I'm telling you know how Reuben does not listen to the show but I'm not say anything bad about him but yeah he's yeah he's not anti-animal like he he's an animal lover
31:0231 minutes, 2 secondsyou take you know he's got nothing but love and respect for the animal kingdom however he's just not an animal owner yeah
31:1231 minutes, 12 secondsI hear stupid things about it well now did you come here to show me that dog no
31:1931 minutes, 19 secondsmy grandma back here what's on your mind for you what you want to go wait a minute
31:2831 minutes, 28 secondsyou want to go blind is there two answers to this question he says do you want to go blind but someone else specifically says you'll go
31:3631 minutes, 36 secondsblind okay all right we'll see yeah we'll see we'll see what Rocco Rocco I don't like this rock with this Rocco I don't like you anymore these are the
31:4431 minutes, 44 secondslast five questions are the worst I've ever it's very specific there's two ways of saying it Mickey says it different than uh the person I put down yes me too
31:5231 minutes, 52 secondsI'm just saying now that we're you know nobody's going blind because I think Rocky said the exact same thing to this other individual nobody's going blind okay also there this is another
32:0032 minutesimportant conversation on the stairs yes another stairs you did mention I I just recently edited of course the previous episode you did mention I sort of
32:0832 minutes, 8 secondsstepped on you as I usually do you mentioned uh stairs on the previous episode yes Adrian was sitting on the stairs talking to Rocky on the stairs
32:1532 minutes, 15 secondswith her position of power above Rocky right and now we got Mickey above the rocky character the same idea of looking
32:2232 minutes, 22 secondsdown up is it done on purpose it has to be because it's one of the things that at least stands out to me like the most
32:2932 minutes, 29 secondsconsistent thing in all the movies is that stairs and trains yeah and Rocky says nobody's going blind so he's asked for his blocker back Mickey's like why
32:3732 minutes, 37 secondsdo you want your locker back like he says yeah he's like yeah what's on your mind you'll get your locker back but why what's on your mind Rocky's gonna be a
32:4732 minutes, 47 secondsDipper to someone but he went toe-to-toe with the chat less than a year ago so Rocky gets a locker yeah yeah exactly but that being
32:5532 minutes, 55 secondssaid Mickey's like okay you want your locker maybe just think he wants to train and Spar or you know light stuff at the gym that's fair because you want your locker what's on your mind why are
33:0333 minutes, 3 secondsyou coming back to the gym and he goes well I want to fight yeah yeah you want to go blind uh nobody's gonna blind me I heard what I said yeah the eye is great
33:1233 minutes, 12 secondsno problem that is in every pug thinks he has one good one left now forget it he's got a fighting career is over again
33:2133 minutes, 21 secondsevery pug which is short for pugilis which is boxer I love that pug it thinks they have one good one left and that
33:2833 minutes, 28 secondsgoes for every athlete look at Tom Brady Tom Brady yeah just goes with thought I get why people leave on top wink rescue was sort of like that
33:3633 minutes, 36 secondshe probably had a few more years left in him where you could play decent hockey but he kind of once he stopped kind of being Wayne gretzky-ish he kind of I'm
33:4533 minutes, 45 secondsretiring he's still a great player but he wasn't a old man disaster he was getting arthritis too he but you're
33:5233 minutes, 52 secondsright like if he did more seasons he could have survived right but he wouldn't have thrived for sure it would have been for the payday and people that's why people clearly that's why
34:0034 minutespeople do it it's hard to turn down that money it's great money I'm sure I'd like to think that I would be a Wayne Gretzky I would choose to go out on top that
34:0734 minutes, 7 secondsthat would be my legacy some people like the action too though even in the action they like being on top they love the thrill of not a super
34:1634 minutes, 16 secondscompetitive person I know people who are and they just have to it's like a
34:2234 minutes, 22 secondscompulsion they have to compete in all things that's probably what makes them a good athlete in the first place or one of the things when you leave that
34:3034 minutes, 30 secondscompetitive realm you probably feel empty to degree too sure then this is basically what Rocky's saying he needs to be around it was it Michael Jordan
34:3934 minutes, 39 secondsthat like went and played baseball he took a break play baseball came back I think he played with the bulls again after the baseball but then he kind of
34:4734 minutes, 47 secondshad a middling time at the Wizards oh yeah people forget his time at the Wizards see that's what I mean don't have a season with the Wizards don't be
34:5434 minutes, 54 secondsa Michael Jordan with Rocky you know I think he kind of explains it here is it that just started he just found something he's good at and now it's like
35:0235 minutes, 2 secondsoh it's over sorry right here which is true yeah is that right yeah I think that's right you know it's been my whole
35:0935 minutes, 9 secondslife getting a career I get one and you told me it's over yeah you shook the hell out of the champion of the whole
35:1635 minutes, 16 secondswide world you'd be happy with that I like Mickey's class because rock is saying I've spent my whole career I finally got one now your time it's over
35:2435 minutes, 24 secondsbut then Mickey's like yeah but you rattled the champion of the world the best boxer who's ever lived in this in the Rock universe but Paul's the best boxer who's ever lived
35:3335 minutes, 33 secondsyou've rattled his cage man you went toe-to-toe with this guy that's as good as it's going to get look let's be honest you might have spent your whole
35:4035 minutes, 40 secondscareer but then you did what very you're the only one who's ever done this you got to be happy with that kind of the ultimate and Rocky maybe we can do better this time or maybe not obviously
35:4935 minutes, 49 secondsyou could do this in the film but just pretending this isn't a film Rocky has a ton of publicity still he's a big name
35:5635 minutes, 56 secondsif I were him I would try and get a fight with another top tier fighter but not necessarily Apollo just a couple tune-up fights to make some money
36:0536 minutes, 5 secondsbecause this is our you're not gonna get your face caved in the same way because if Paul is such a high caliber fighter you get a couple high level professional
36:1336 minutes, 13 secondswins under your belt and then you see if you can fight Apollo then you probably get some decent paydays there it's true but Apollo wants it but he's the one
36:2136 minutes, 21 secondscoming after him it's been a little live getting a career I get one and you told me yeah you shook the hell out of the
36:2936 minutes, 29 secondschampion of the whole wide world you'd be happy with that well maybe we can do better this time oh voice what about that a young man
36:3736 minutes, 37 secondsI done your favor last time you know can you do me one this time I think that last statement stung Mickey
36:4536 minutes, 45 secondsbecause Rocky kind of is a bit of a dick he's saying I did you a favor I you got to be by the ringside during that very fight you're talking about come on you
36:5336 minutes, 53 secondsget to still be a trainer do your job and I'm asking for help here I gave you a big break you got to be my manager
37:0137 minutes, 1 secondduring the biggest fight of your life I think he's saying that here Mickey came to his house earlier kind of hat in hand and now Rocky's doing the same thing and
37:1037 minutes, 10 secondshe's like hey look I didn't want you to be my trainer but I said yes uh you might not want me to fight but you know do me a solid this time like let me do
37:1937 minutes, 19 secondsit you know what would have been funny if Nikki through the same speech he goes this way stinks let's help fight stinks
37:2837 minutes, 28 secondsum also there's no reason Rocky technically couldn't have taken the fight anyway he doesn't need to have like he should have Mickey there that'd
37:3437 minutes, 34 secondsbe ideal but like you could always fight without Mickey Louis says I think it has to be Apollo responding to your comment
37:4237 minutes, 42 secondsthere uh Kyle because he says that no one else would benefit from fighting Rocky and Rocky should only risk his health against Apollo and the money that
37:4937 minutes, 49 secondsthe fight commands this is what I was saying about Rocky having the publicity Rocky's such a big name that I think anyone would want to see him fight again
37:5737 minutes, 57 secondsobviously people want to see him fight Apollo most of all I think he can capitalize off the name and get another fight if he wanted to especially if there's like some guy who's up and
38:0638 minutes, 6 secondscoming and wanted his name to be known people are interested in Rocky because he came out of nowhere right so if there was another Rocky fight it'd kind of be like the sequels we were talking about
38:1438 minutes, 14 secondsearlier in our discussion when a sequel comes in even if it's not as good people will watch it just because of what happened previously yeah they need a a
38:2338 minutes, 23 secondsDuke a Don King type to George Washington yeah basically what I'm saying is this
38:3038 minutes, 30 secondsis a teaser fight yeah you know it'd be a teaser fight leading up to Apollo of course it wouldn't be the thing everyone
38:3738 minutes, 37 secondswants so fair I don't know you don't you don't understand me now I want to show you some now testing well look you look
38:4538 minutes, 45 secondsuh right there at the end of my nose Okay I want to test you watch sly's acting are so great how he's so excited
38:5238 minutes, 52 secondslike a little kid I saw it I I saw it you know he's so excited you know I passed your test yeah you got rocky that's your good eye you you beagle okay
39:0139 minutes, 1 secondbut he's so excited that he passes Mickey's test and then I love Mickey's response where he goes yeah let's try the other lamp that let me calls the
39:0939 minutes, 9 secondsaisle lamp let's try the other lamp Mickey has Mickey isms I love that they're written so specifically the other lamp watch size acting when he's
39:1739 minutes, 17 secondsso excited about seeing the lamp yeah he says the other lamp yeah I think he says lamb I thought it was the other lamb lamb with a b no lamp as an eye a light
39:2639 minutes, 26 secondsI like yeah oh that makes more sense I thought it's just a pass doesn't it Kyle you don't understand me now I want to
39:3439 minutes, 34 secondsshow you something uh test you now look you look uh right there at the end of my nose Okay I want to test you look at
39:4239 minutes, 42 secondsyour nose okay look at my nose now when I bring my finger in you tell me when you see it over here there's a little thing I see that's good
39:4939 minutes, 49 secondsI thought it's okay now wait I will try the other lamp now look here everybody
39:5539 minutes, 55 secondsnow tell me I said now you see nothing again the
40:0340 minutes, 3 secondsvery subtle there how rocky I see it he says it very quickly because he's trying to like make up time for how long even he kind of knows how long it might have
40:1140 minutes, 11 secondstaken so he he kind of announces I see it really quickly like no it's too late you know what would create in the Creed film Creed's eye is swollen completely
40:2040 minutes, 20 secondsshut and they cover his good eye and how many fingers am I holding up in size tapping the back of his neck
40:3340 minutes, 33 secondsbut it was actually the the cut man or somebody stitch stitch yeah and I don't think Rocky liked that or did he catch
40:4040 minutes, 40 secondsit I can't remember no oh boy anyway at any rate I smart he was like yeah I see did you just be able to time it right
40:4740 minutes, 47 secondsit's like yeah you just should have you should have left but he can't lie to Mickey I think Mickey would know also also my argument here
40:5440 minutes, 54 secondsI'm Rocky used to be like look let's be real here I don't Dodge punches I don't block punches anyway he's got a cave in the side of my face
41:0341 minutes, 3 secondsif my eye works or not so why why can't he just what can we just do what we keep doing that is valid I'm glad that you
41:1141 minutes, 11 secondspointed out Ryan that we should pay attention to Rocky's non-verbal acting here too when he goes to the other side he's confident when he does the left eye
41:1941 minutes, 19 secondsbut then Rocky's face shows his nervousness because he knows he can't see over to
41:2641 minutes, 26 secondsboth eyes I thought we're just doing my good side okay yeah he knows his eyes screwed up because he talks about how he keeps hitting the trash cans because of
41:3441 minutes, 34 secondshis bad eye such a great acting by Burgess and then what yeah and what Mickey says next is oh my gosh yeah now look here
41:4341 minutes, 43 secondsnow tell me I said now you see nothing created what
41:5141 minutes, 51 secondsI caved in the whole society of Faith now forget it kid you got the heart but you ain't got the tools no more now forget it
42:0042 minutesis that right that is right yeah yeah well maybe you ain't got it no more you know that obviously the Sting's Rocky
42:0942 minutes, 9 secondsbecause he's like you're telling me it's just over and he trusts Mickey that's the thing like it's not Mickey blowing smoke up his butt he Mickey is a straight shooter when Mickey says you're
42:1842 minutes, 18 secondsdoing great you're gonna crap lightning need Thunder whatever he believes it rocket believes that those mantras he believes his trainer now the same guy's
42:2542 minutes, 25 secondssaying you don't have it anymore you've got the heart it's great you got a heart like a fighter but your body's broken it's not the same anymore and that stings rocking negative comments or
42:3442 minutes, 34 secondscriticisms hurt more when they're true it's like oh that's yeah let's remember Rocky's date with Adrian when he doesn't
42:4242 minutes, 42 secondshave much of a brain so he better develop his body well what happens now when your body doesn't the way it should and he doesn't
42:5142 minutes, 51 secondshave a job what do you have left what do you have to fall back on kind of throws it at Mickey and Mickey's like he understands but he's about to
42:5842 minutes, 58 secondsdemonstrate yeah something I will not forget it is that right that is right yeah we'll move a Jew who ain't got it no
43:0743 minutes, 7 secondsmore you know that huh yeah now look
43:1543 minutes, 15 secondsyou didn't even see that coming did you no well that was from a broken down pug like me what do you what do you think the champ
43:2443 minutes, 24 secondswill do to you you hurt me bad no he invite you for a
43:3643 minutes, 36 secondsminute claiming it point in it shout out to bill for the perfect musical cue moment because you know Rockets has been
43:4343 minutes, 43 secondsslapped in the face but there's no the Broken You Know The Horn of the broken Soul yeah Rock his world has just come
43:5143 minutes, 51 secondscrashing down when this literally slapped the nonsense out of him look man the champ would cave in your face and hurt your pulmonary poison it such a
44:0044 minutesgreat great Voice work and Rocky realizes it no makers
44:1044 minutes, 10 secondsif I can't fight no more maybe I can help out around here you know yeah well sure about that
44:2044 minutes, 20 secondsyou know he was you're like royalty here kid you want those guys to see your carrying towels and buckets around where's your
44:2844 minutes, 28 secondsdignity just
44:3344 minutes, 33 seconds[Music]
44:3644 minutes, 36 secondsI gotta be around it
44:4344 minutes, 43 seconds[Music]
44:4844 minutes, 48 secondsyou come back tomorrow thanks
44:5744 minutes, 57 seconds[Music]
45:0545 minutes, 5 secondsforeign
45:0945 minutes, 9 seconds[Music]
45:1845 minutes, 18 secondsI'm like literally crying so touching he's choking back tears Sylvester Stallone is he's so good really does
45:2645 minutes, 26 secondsbother me when people knock him for not being a good actor I this podcast isn't for those people so yeah it's not nothing pisses me off more whenever you
45:3445 minutes, 34 secondsmentioned Rocky and you're like oh you ain't Gina yes that's the whole film I'm just running around for an hour and I feel like yo Adrian
45:4145 minutes, 41 secondsoh but the Mickey I mean it's ugh I can't even like describe my feelings about that scene it's powerful yeah
45:4945 minutes, 49 secondsso this is Rock Bottom I think him walking down those stairs I guess the only compromise he could reach he's around the industry he's not in the ring
45:5745 minutes, 57 secondshe's not making much money but something it's a job but we're talking about the mental health remember like Kyle we talked about his job like if your mental
46:0546 minutes, 5 secondshealth mind too in the last episode there's a fine line between how much can you take in this business or this job even if it's about the mice Rocky's
46:1246 minutes, 12 secondswilling to take you know make less money obviously working with Mickey probably pennies to the dollar compared to the Meat Plant but he's happier he's around
46:2046 minutes, 20 secondshe's getting paid I think he's being employed yes he probably gets minimum wage yeah okay which is probably I think it's like 250 an hour or something like
46:2946 minutes, 29 secondsthat like nothing property taxes are fifteen hundred that's three thousand hours no did I get that right no I
46:3646 minutes, 36 secondsdidn't sorry but why doesn't matter 1500 how many it's it's like 500 hours it's a lot of your work
46:4446 minutes, 44 secondsyeah it's like a quarter of your working full-time right like full-time is like 2009 hours a year roughly if you're
46:5146 minutes, 51 secondsmaking three bucks an hour say and your taxes are fifteen hundred a year they take you 500 hours which is roughly
46:5946 minutes, 59 secondsa quarter of all you're working just to pay your property taxes in your house not mortgage not food nothing crazy no
47:0747 minutes, 7 secondseven with the Pet Shop money there they're gonna be living hand to mouth to say the least okay so we're gonna stop it there because this next thing of course is a big scene we don't want to
47:1547 minutes, 15 secondsrush through it so it's a beautiful ending to that sequence but that is Rock Bottom there because even in the next other than of course the Coleman Rocky's life but I think as far as the character
47:2447 minutes, 24 secondsin his boxing career he feels like this is it's over we want to thank those who joined us in Discord we've got Christina popped up and Dan from the retrospect
47:3247 minutes, 32 secondsYouTube channel has popped up if you've missed the whole episode guys that's okay this episode that we recorded today will be out on the podcast feed uh in a
47:4147 minutes, 41 secondsweek but before we close Rocky trivia answers I'm guessing I got two out of five but this is the worst week ever
47:4947 minutes, 49 secondsokay I'd tell you what they told me in University when you're on the bell curve essentially competing against other
47:5647 minutes, 56 secondsstudents not grade is based on how you do relative to your peers not the the course itself is you don't have to
48:0248 minutes, 2 secondsoutrun the lion you just have to outrun the other guy running from the lion fair enough that's true that's a good point I think
48:1148 minutes, 11 secondswe all got this one wrong Katie why don't we start with you what two teams did you pick so what were the teams you're playing in the football game that was on when Rocky turned on the TV and
48:2048 minutes, 20 secondswhat was the score I picked the Eagles and San Francisco yeah me too and I guessed the score was
48:3048 minutes, 30 seconds710 but no idea for the teams I said Philly and New York oh so is the Rams in Tampa so it wasn't even a Philly team
48:3748 minutes, 37 secondsyeah okay what round did Rocky tell Mickey that a Paul broke his nose I said third round that Rocky got his nose
48:4348 minutes, 43 secondsbroke the first round again round again it was my nose is broken he's like ah whatever yeah and I can't believe that
48:5148 minutes, 51 secondshe broke my nose again is that right though yeah it's the first round yeah yeah okay what is the name of the company that wants to produce a Rocky doll now I said the smart deal or smart
49:0149 minutes, 1 secondtoy smart deal toys oh it's a smart deal I got it wrong I knew it but I couldn't think of it I knew it was something toys
49:0949 minutes, 9 secondsso I got that one wrong of course what did Rocky say after Adrian said you you read nice thank you you lie nice perfect
49:1549 minutes, 15 secondsand lastly who said you'll go blind Adrian yeah right that's what I said okay does it say Adrian or does it say Mickey no this is Adrian yeah Ryan what
49:2449 minutes, 24 secondsis your score three three Katie what was yours three I'm catching up to you guys four oh wow okay behind though where are
49:3249 minutes, 32 secondswe am I still ahead or because you had 70 points I'm doing from the beginning Paul are you doing like by season as well so we have season winners or are
49:4049 minutes, 40 secondsyou just doing the whole series oh okay sorry okay you have 23 this season KD has 24. oh and I have 24. oh wow okay
49:4849 minutes, 48 secondswow I knocked up pretty good in the first season I think because my doors My
49:5549 minutes, 55 secondsoverall score is quite low oh I have 65 for the for the whole thing Brian has 68
50:0350 minutes, 3 secondsKatie has 70. I wanna do a season by season Victory and then the overall Champion so it's like a career right there's your wins losses you can always
50:1150 minutes, 11 secondsdo and then you're gonna have an overall champion at the end okay competition is stiff this season Katie and I are tied and Ryan's only one point behind so we've been in a war
50:2050 minutes, 20 secondsthese three yeah I've seen so many Italians in one place you said that not me Katie you
50:2750 minutes, 27 secondssaid that not me if I ever if I ever go to Italy that's what I'm gonna say yeah yeah all right so before we close I just want
50:3550 minutes, 35 secondsto thank everyone that joined us in Discord uh reminder that you can join my patreon it supports the last of the action heroes podcast Network feed also
50:4350 minutes, 43 secondsyou get to see the Tulsa King reactions on that as well season finale hasn't been uploaded yet but it will be probably by the time this is live on
50:5150 minutes, 51 secondsiTunes yeah you can watch us on YouTube as well send us an email we need more emails Patrick had a very big juicy one so that was a lot of fun to talk about
50:5950 minutes, 59 secondsuh remember we're all friends in the Rocky Community I want to make that clear we're not trying to start a new drama that's why we kept names out of it
51:0651 minutes, 6 secondsI just want to say that everyone should be able to enjoy whatever fandom they're a part of in any way that they want to as long as that doesn't affect other people's fandom as long as you're not
51:1551 minutes, 15 secondstoxic to people but you can certainly have different opinions that's what makes be kind be kind have different opinions but don't tell people how to
51:2351 minutes, 23 secondshave their opinions I don't like being told how to think that's me personally there is a saying opinions are like rectal cavities everybody has I love
51:3151 minutes, 31 secondsthat you you self-centered so it's such an eloquent way I don't know if I made this one up myself I think I did but opinions are like noses everyone just
51:4051 minutes, 40 secondspicks their own oh I've not actually heard that one thank you thank you okay okay with that the episode is over I didn't hear no Bell