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It's lunch time.

What's going on, everybody?

Welcome.

lunch with the clydesdale and the cowboy

we are back after a day off what's

crazy to me is we are to a

spot in this pod that we miss a

day and i get bombarded with dms where

are you what's going on you okay is

everything all right what's happening why

are you why would you want today i

mean she didn't miss the lunch today hey

man like stuff happens

then the people who listened on monday and

i said i got tests i have to

go through i'm getting dms texts saying

hey hope everything goes well all that

kind of stuff and it is it is

awesome that people reach out like that i

just i love that you guys care that

much um that you miss us when we're

gone and that you wish us well when

we're going through stuff

uh when we pick up broccoli salad and

throw out our back people send well wishes

i got so many dude is your back

okay what happened to your back are you

he's back all right you okay

I was like, yeah, I'm way better now.

I appreciate, though.

I mean, I laugh about it, you know,

mostly at myself.

But, yeah, I'm good.

I appreciate it.

It's just funny that you have to tighten

the weight belt before you pick up the

broccoli slaw now.

Yeah, a hundred percent.

I actually have.

I'm actually using my weight belt now.

I snatched yesterday and went and grabbed

my old Rogue one just to put it

on because my son has my one from

MFC, my two-poo belt somewhere in his car.

I got to go get it from him.

Well, I never used a belt ever, ever,

ever, ever.

And then the twelve back procedures later,

yeah, I started using a belt.

Yeah.

It is still not comfortable for me to

snatch or clean in a belt.

No, not at all.

Here's the thing.

I haven't used one for so long that

yesterday,

especially that Rogue belt's a little bit

wider than the Tupu.

Tupu's a lot thinner.

So

um ramirez i'm actually might buy a herd

belt that's entirely possible since my son

has my one that i got at mfc

anyway yeah belted up got it as tight

as i as i could and then was

like sitting there trying to get it in

the right spot so that when i squat

snatch it's not like digging into my back

digging into my back or digging into my

stomach and hurting in either one of those

spots so

It's going to take some getting used to.

Hopefully,

I just have it until I get comfortable

with not having it mentally again for that

extra support because I actually feel a

hell of a lot better.

My physical therapist is a genius.

So I have a,

I have a Clydesdale media to food belt.

Um,

that's it's old and it's just comfortable.

Um, but it,

it always like dug into my stomach when

I was lifting.

Yeah.

I've lost a little bit of weight.

And so it doesn't do that anymore,

which is a lot of weight.

It's really, really, um,

a good feeling to not have that digging

in anymore.

I can't even imagine, dude.

No, but I want, I want to get,

like I said,

I've been toying with the idea of buying

a belt.

I think you could have held that on

for another five seconds.

I probably could have,

but I'm also trying to adjust my pants.

So speaking of holding on, well, first,

um,

Craig Pasley with the great job last night

on the sports show.

Um, I had such a ball,

such a blast.

It's nice getting out of like this niche

of not that we're in a niche anymore.

Like we are totally,

totally off the rails,

but it's nice getting away from like the

CrossFit stuff.

Oh yeah.

Just talking about all my other sports

passions, which are a lot.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Like I said,

I was telling you before we went on,

I wish I could have jumped on because,

you know,

the Drew Brees thing that I sent you

and then some of the stuff y'all talking

about,

like I had other stuff to say regarding

it because y'all were talking about like

my era of baseball when we were talking

about

The Bash Brothers,

which I didn't bring up,

but I was going to talk about Ricky

Henderson because that was one of my

favorite players growing up.

You mentioned Ozzie Smith last night.

That was my favorite shortstop for the

longest time that dude was.

He was an acrobat for all intents and

purposes.

It was some of the catches he made

were absolutely just,

they didn't make sense.

Yeah.

He did the round off back flip to

start the season when he took position at

shortstop.

Yeah, dude.

And you look forward to it every single

year.

A hundred percent.

You know, stolen base King, Mr.

Ricky Henderson.

So here's a fun fact that people, Ricky,

like Ricky loves Ricky.

Ricky talked in a third person.

Yeah.

ricky gone um here's the thing fun fun

fact about ricky is that um he's so

far ahead as far as the stolen base

count is concerned that like any one of

the players i was playing today who might

be no you know known for stealing bases

would have to steal i forget it's like

an absurd amount of bases for the next

twenty years to be able to catch him

Patrick Clark is talking about Ricky being

his favorite player in the wraparound

Oakleys.

How much money do you think Oakley made

because of Ricky Henderson?

Oh, a lot.

A whole lot.

Nobody made those wraparound Oakleys look

as good as Ricky Henderson.

Absolutely.

Absolutely.

Ricky, go on.

If you go look, dude,

like if you talk about it in front

of your phone,

mention Ricky Henderson and your algorithm

is paying attention,

they will start feeding you stories told

by other people about Ricky Henderson.

And I guarantee you're going to have a

good time.

He was as talented as it comes and

as quirky as it comes.

Yeah, yeah.

The A's had,

at the end of a year,

they had an accounting anomaly come up

where they had too much money in the

bank.

It's because they paid Ricky a check for

a million dollars and he framed it and

put it on the wall and never cashed

it.

If I only had that kind of jack

to be able to just frame my million

dollar check.

Yeah.

Yeah.

And called him and be like, Ricky,

did you ever cash that check?

no we can't have cash it's like grandma

that sends you the five dollar check for

your birthday and you just forget like i

can see that yeah the million dollar check

you weren't worried about it uh ricky i

was just going through my checkbook and i

can't get it to to balance not balancing

out

oh it's bananas dude it's bananas but yeah

that um i enjoyed it i got what

i got to listen to dude fantastic yeah

i um see i love that's there that's

what i miss about baseball like i i

love baseball i love watching baseball i

said it last night i watch every pirates

game because i have a second tv in

my living room like and then football

season it football's on both tvs and

We go to town,

but I miss the storytelling.

The announcers back in the day,

like in the eighties and nineties,

would tell all those Ricky Henderson

stories while the game's going on.

And that's what made watching baseball

awesome.

It was like just listening to your dad

tell stories while you're watching a game.

um barry bond's all-time record of of

career home runs the active career home

run leader is giancarlo stanton with four

fifty six and he old yeah

So he only needs, what is that,

three hundred and six,

three hundred and sixteen more?

Yeah, shouldn't be a big deal.

I don't see what the problem is.

In addition to that, Joseph,

Barry Bonds' hat size of nine and a

quarter is still unmatched.

I think the current active biggest head in

baseball is an eight and a quarter.

Yeah, dude had him a big old head.

Well, it wasn't always big.

It just mysteriously became big in the

latter half of his career.

At some point,

it just blew up for some reason.

Totally unrelated to anything else he was

doing.

Yeah.

Take your shots at what it could have

been.

Throw out your guesses, folks.

Throw out your guesses.

It was the carnivore diet.

Yeah, that's probably what it was.

Yeah.

I think Joseph is on to something there.

Yeah.

Ed was a Griffey Big Hurt kind of

guy.

Ken Griffey Jr.

was one.

When I was in.

Let me Ken Griffey it up.

There you go.

I would watch the kid all the time.

Every time he was on ESPN,

I would tune in to watch Ken Griffey.

And I was in Toronto for something,

and the Mariners had come to town.

I instantly went down, scalped tickets,

got my ass into Sky Dome to watch

Ken Griffey Jr.

play.

I would imagine so.

Yeah.

but yeah, that's the area,

the areas y'all were talking about

yesterday, right.

When I was, uh,

as I was getting dressed and get out

of my work clothes,

getting in my gym clothes, I was like,

man,

y'all talking about my stuff right now,

right then.

Cause like modern football,

once you get past, you know,

two thousand and probably thirteen or

fourteen i just stopped paying attention

to the nfl college football i'm all in

like i know i know way more than

i probably should have but uh having said

that that's the other thing i was gonna

bring up yesterday if i was able to

hop on was that i am probably going

to at least keep up with a lot

more um with the saints this year and

just nfl football in general um just

because this new quarterback that we have

mr shuck

seems to be the real deal after the

second half of the season like he was

out there doing it and he seems to

actually care about the city um and the

people in there and whatnot and he and

if you're if you're from if you're in

new orleans and you play for the saints

and you even give off an aura of

i actually give a shit about this town

the people embrace you and if the people

embrace you you're going to be there for

a long time especially you know if you're

good or not so good stuff

so i was watching get up this morning

they actually featured the saints in one

of the uh quick rundowns that adam

schefter was doing yeah and the reports

are that the new receiver they got um

his name escapes me right now uh is

killing people in practice yeah

Receiver core has never really been a

problem.

Running back hasn't been a problem the

last five, seven years or whatnot.

We need some defense,

and an offensive line would be fantastic,

just in case you were wondering.

You got a good quarterback,

you're going to want to protect him.

Yeah,

the same thing that Cincinnati has going

on.

Mr. Joe Burrow up there,

you can be the best quarterback in the

world,

but if you're running for your life every

single play,

it makes it really hard to do your

job.

So I wanted to,

before we dive into some other stuff,

I had my appointment yesterday.

Yep.

And I don't know if you guys heard,

I don't know how much national weather

this may national news,

the weather in Ohio made yesterday,

but we got thumped on.

Yeah.

And I am going to share my screen

and show you just how bad it was.

So this is video from a traffic cam.

Oh, wow.

Okay.

So it's just starting to rain.

And all of a sudden,

about a third of the way through this,

you'll see the rain pick up,

the wind pick up.

Because there it goes.

See that?

Jeez, and here it goes.

Now, in the far right lane,

watch the taillights of a car here, right?

It's coming up.

It's getting bad.

You see the hazards?

Yeah.

Now, watch right here.

This car gets picked up and flipped and

goes two lanes and lands on its wheels.

Full flip in the air.

That's insane.

That's what we had yesterday here in Ohio.

While you're on your way to the doctor.

While I was on my way to my

appointment.

Yes, yes.

It was it was crazy, man.

Here, I'm gonna shrink this down.

I sent Vicki another one I'm going to

try to pull up.

This is another view of it.

This was in Dublin,

Ohio and neighboring area.

Now this is like hurricane shit.

It does look like...

We're not near an ocean or a gulf.

Nope.

Oh, that poor tree.

Yeah, it just snapped in half.

I like that comment right there.

The tree is gone.

The whole south side was up in it.

We're looking at a skinny tree.

Yeah.

Yeah.

And someone posted a picture of a skinny

tree getting snapped.

That is funny.

That's hilarious.

But what a what a crazy day yesterday.

and it was just hot down here so

noon i went up to uh get my

test started i was there till five had

chest ct um had i had to sit

in a glass box and breathe through a

tube um and if you remember like six

months ago they thought i might have

sarcoidosis there were masses in my lungs

those masses are starting to clear

And all the interference in the CT is

disappearing.

So everything is going well.

But they found a pocket of pneumonia.

Of course they did.

So I have walking pneumonia.

And the boogie woogie flu.

Yeah.

And so starting antibiotics tonight,

now that the pharmacy has just filled my

antibiotics about twenty minutes ago.

Well,

they were probably trying to find a treat

at broken half.

So, yeah, I guess I can forgive them.

It was a little bit windy yesterday.

It's a little bit of stuff going on

like that.

Well, good, dude.

That is outstanding news.

It is.

And look,

do you feel bad from the pneumonia?

Like,

did you feel like something was going on?

I can tell when I sleep on that

side.

That there's something, yeah,

something's not right.

Yeah.

But other than that, I'm saying like,

you know, walking around, whatever.

The improvement of my lungs is greater

than the detriment of the pneumonia.

Yes.

So I'm excited that if I clear off

this pneumonia,

like how much better will I feel?

Better it's going to actually be.

Yeah, dude, that's awesome.

That's awesome.

That is nothing but good news right there.

I'm a big fan of that.

Yeah.

So...

We just, yeah.

So it's funny you should mention that,

Mark.

Because I had some right before the show.

Scott had pocket jerky right as I got.

I logged on.

Scott was already on and showing off he

was eating pocket jerky right whenever I

got there.

That is outstanding.

My MD said walking pneumonia, not bad,

relatively speaking.

Dr. Shannon Bunce.

yeah so um really good um speaking of

and i'm not i'm still very very grateful

to shannon for sending me her jersey that

i still have not gotten yet so i

don't know if it's coming you know they're

actually delivering it like on a pack mule

with somebody named cookie and whatnot.

But like,

I've been checking my mail pretty

regularly.

Like I got home yesterday and there was

a package sitting on my,

on my counter and I was like, Ooh,

that for me.

And Jennifer was like, yeah.

And it was something I'd ordered from

Amazon.

So I was like, Oh, nevermind.

No ma'am.

It has not arrived yet.

Ken Walters,

I just finished watching Bailey Martin's

recap why he didn't finish top ten.

Hard things happen.

Didn't they have to pass physicals this

year?

They sure did have to pass physicals.

Here's the thing, though.

It was by their own doctor.

Whatever, whoever they're they're they're.

primary care physician is whatever they

could just it's basically we could have

got shanna like if scott's going to the

games he could have got shanna to write

him a note saying hey he took this

physical and he's good to go boom can

i can i say that after going through

afib and kind of the heart thing watching

him i i feared that yeah the way

he reacted to things i feared that damn

I didn't,

so I didn't even know that was a

thing.

So he was, he,

he's thinking he had some like a murmur

or something or.

So if you remember Torian two years ago,

he had to withdraw because of a heart

thing.

Yep.

I think he had an ablation after that.

So yeah.

Wow.

If he had heart things again,

it's going to,

where do you go from there?

No clue.

Gosh, I'm jumping all over the map today.

You have a map?

Someone said to me today,

we were trying to figure out who did

what at CrossFit HQ.

Right.

And I said,

their org chart must look like a ball

of yarn that has gotten loose.

Yeah.

hundred percent and and sometimes their

yarn goes over the same person like

multiple times and then it scoots over

here and it looks like that thing from

uh with charlie day where he's sitting in

front and he's got a map with all

the one of those type deals um i

got a

Shannon says he had an anomaly to an

artery feeding his heart, I believe.

Jeez.

That can't be fixed without surgery.

It doesn't sound like it could be surgery.

Wow.

Okay.

I'm not even going to speak on that

because I know nothing in that realm.

And I don't know way out of my

depth.

I'm already out of my depth,

and that's just going to make it worse.

I found out why the money is missing.

Oh.

I am.

I'm here for this.

Please, let's do this.

So,

this is a thing that is very frustrating

for me and CrossFit HQ.

This is a very, very simple explanation,

in my opinion,

that if they just said it ahead of

time,

Oh, you ask it a lot now.

So, apparently,

and it is not everybody in the world

pays twenty dollars for the open.

There are regions of the world with

certain economies that they get a reduced

rate on the open.

i have heard that like i even heard

that that they get like a reduced

affiliate fee they get reduced like

different costs around the world for lower

income third world countries that are

participating i live in louisiana we about

as low income as you come and i

gotta pay twenty dollars every year what

the hell dude come on twenty bucks

i'm shocked uh james said hq told him

that they did give away free registrations

and discounted registrations that is what

i got as well is okay in addition

to that i did also hear that in

some areas they had to pay credit card

fees for the um the payments but

And I get all that.

If you just say that up front,

that the prize purse will be this minus

our discounted registrations,

our free registrations,

and credit card fees,

now all of a sudden it's not a

big deal.

So what you're suggesting is clarity from

HQ?

Come on, Scott.

But what they did instead was they said,

instead of the two hundred and fifty four

thousand people that signed up for the

open,

we're basing this on two hundred and forty

two thousand people signing up for the

open.

So that doesn't that doesn't mesh.

Not at all.

The two things did not go together.

So,

but I do understand the explanation and it

does make sense.

Just what the hell?

Again, just, just explain it.

Just put it in the rule book,

put it in writing.

So we know it.

That ain't going to happen.

You know, that ain't going to happen.

I know that ain't going to happen.

Vicky knows it's not going to happen.

Everybody in the chat knows that's not

going to happen.

Yeah, thank you, Aaron.

Transparency and CrossFit HQ do not go

together.

It's not a thing.

So we talked about this last night about

the WNBA and the commissioner not being

equipped with the capabilities to govern

that sport as it grows.

Like she was great for them when they

were a smaller league,

and as they have grown in popularity,

she is now out of her depth.

Quite.

I fear that that's where we are with

CrossFit HQ.

There's good people there that are good at

certain aspects of their job.

But as CrossFit grew,

they were then out of their depth on

how to sustain and grow the business.

Yeah,

you're applying the same principles you

were using to run a hundred person company

and trying to use them to run a

ten thousand person company.

It just doesn't work the same.

Yeah.

I mean, in this country,

it's really easy to run a small business,

but a lot of medium-sized businesses die

because the people aren't equipped to run

that size of a business.

Yeah.

Right.

I've heard story after story after story

of people who were very successful as a

small business owner.

And when they tried to expand up,

all of a sudden they lost everything.

And weren't able to recover.

And they were not able to recover.

The shit started getting sideways on them.

Didn't know what to do with themselves.

Got into basically the deep end of the

pool with no idea how to swim.

And yeah, it got away from them.

I can understand that.

The other thing I wanted to...

bring up is Jason Hopper did a debrief

while he was sitting on a plane.

And if Vicky has it and can pull

it up, that'd be awesome.

But it's a multi-slide kind of espousing

about the mentality of being a champion

and always wanting to win and learning

that maybe that isn't what's going to make

him happy in life.

And what I find fascinating about it is

Jason Hopper is kind of known as the

big do-do-do-do guy, right?

I always say I would love to see

him do a spelling bee.

Yes.

This is very deep thinking, Jason Hopper.

It's very adult Jason Hopper.

Um, it's definitely worth a, uh,

this is not it, Vicki.

It is the white screen though.

Yeah.

Yeah.

She was on, she was on the wrong.

Yeah.

It should be right there.

You should be able to advance.

There you go.

Yeah.

Um, so it's, it's really well,

well worth the read, uh,

Um, it's probably, you know,

cause I don't read books.

It took me about five minutes to go

through all the, the, the carousel.

If it had been,

if it had been in,

if it had been written in print,

I just wouldn't have read it at all.

We wouldn't even be talking about it

today.

Um, but it, it,

it's really an interesting look at his,

his, him growing up.

He always wanted to win everything.

Winning was everything.

And then he won and it didn't really

give him, um,

the satisfaction he thought it would,

it immediately became,

I've got to win again.

And how do you like get the joy

back in life?

And as a Christian man,

how does he take that view of doing

things for Jesus and this view of trying

to win everything and how do they coexist?

I would direct him towards one Richard

Froning Jr.

because he's one of the people who seems

to have that figured out.

So Rich's thing was like when it all

clicked for him,

if you've seen any one of the times

that he's been asked to speak anywhere or

when he's talked about it on his,

you know,

on the Fittest in History documentary and

whatnot is that when he figured out that

it's not about me.

it's about you know showing these

god-given abilities to to praise the lord

the bet in the best way he can

and then like if i'm not doing it

for the glory of me i'm doing it

for the glory of god it all kind

of settled into place for it now granted

rich was still winning every single thing

right but that's what it took almost

everything yeah look at the pictures when

he didn't win

Oh, yeah.

He is very much... I get it.

And as a Christian man, we're all flawed.

We all have flaws.

We all are sinners.

All of that stuff.

When he lost the Invitational,

his death stare was...

remarkable when they lost to the team to

that's the only medal that he hung up

in the barn was the second place one

so that he could stare at it and

remember how it felt yeah

I did the same thing.

I got second place at a comp,

like one of the biggest comps over here

in my age group,

and my medal is still hanging in the

gym where I can see it every single

day because it pissed me off.

For Rich, it was maturing,

having a family, kids,

that he learned that.

Yeah.

I think that's about when the shift really

happened for him.

When the true shift happened.

Yeah.

I would say so.

It was starting in the development of it,

I think was before that,

but the real shift happened then.

Yeah.

So speaking on Jason's thing,

or go ahead and beat that one.

Uh, props to Jason for putting this,

that out in public.

Many athletes would not be that open and

vulnerable,

especially knowing how the CrossFit

community can pile on people.

Yeah.

I actually wanted to bring this up and

I didn't know when I was going to

do it.

Um,

Vicki wrote an essay about Christianity in

CrossFit.

Yep.

And I think this is a really good,

why is someone like, so Jason,

Jason talks about his faith a lot.

Sure.

Right.

Right.

he does not take the pile on like

james sprague does when he talks about his

faith no rich never took that on why

is it that james is sectioned off and

hit harder with that than other athletes

colton's talked about his faith jason

talks about his faith

There's a lot of people in this community

that have talked about their faith and

nobody takes the heat like James Sprague

has.

Blows my mind completely.

And here's the thing.

James has led with that.

Forever for as long as he's been around.

So it's not like it's a secret and

all of a sudden one day he was

like this, you know,

plastic Christian or whatever you want to

call it.

Like the dude's been talking about it

forever and he still gets, like you said,

piled on for it.

I don't,

I will never understand that in a million

years.

It blows my mind completely.

Um,

Trent says he's much more vocal about it

and it has been and also not everyone

likes his personality.

I don't get that because,

and I've been saying this for quite some

time as well,

you either love James Spring or you're

wrong.

He's a giant puppy dog for all intents

and purposes.

He is a Labrador retriever.

He has the same syndrome as Noah.

Nobody believes that they're that nice.

Everybody believes it's fake.

Here's the difference.

I understand a thing about Noah because

for the longest time,

it just seemed fake to me when it

came out of Noah's mouth.

It just did.

I don't know why.

Just a feeling that I had.

Nothing personal against him.

I just didn't believe it.

With James, it just feels better to me.

It feels normal.

It feels like that's how that dude is

all the time.

So I don't understand it.

Every event I've ever been to with either

James or Noah.

Noah is always the last person off the

floor because he's taking pictures.

He's doing all the things.

And I've seen it behind the scenes.

It is as genuine as you have ever

seen.

It is...

And James is the same way.

Every time I've been around James,

he is the same individual you see in

public.

They are two of the most authentic people

I've seen in the sport.

Yeah, I can see that.

Like I said,

I don't – and I try to reserve

judgment on stuff like that because I know

how I feel,

and I've never actually met Noah.

So it might be, you know, like,

like exactly like you said,

like I might actually meet him in person

and go, oh yeah, no,

he's just like that all the time.

Okay, cool.

So I, I can admit,

I was just like you,

I was not a Noah fan.

Noah was, you know,

I heard one thing that he said about,

he was gonna be take the mantle from

Rich in and I never let him live

it down.

And then I met him in person.

Then I did an interview with him on

this show and I fell in love with

that dude.

Yeah.

Like, he is such a great dude.

I don't think James tries to be perfect.

I really don't.

I think people expect or think that he's

trying to be some sort of way,

and he's really, really not.

He almost legitimately got in an actual

fight with Jason when they were messing

around that day.

That's a thing that actually happened.

You could see that dude was not okay.

And that's part of being...

That's one of the few times which I

think more people should see that because

that's human.

He lost his temper.

And I think he's got a lot of

temper to lose because it almost happened

again.

He said it himself right then and there.

He said, no, no, no.

That bird, that was real.

He said, that was me being like...

I felt like he threw it at me.

I didn't like that.

So I flipped him off.

Yeah, I...

So I think this is the thing,

and Trent says people like to see that

versus the curated life.

I don't think it's a curated life.

I think genuinely James is trying to learn

how to live the best life he can

to glorify God.

Yeah, I think so too.

Right?

And if you deem that as curated,

that's on you.

Like he's doing that for himself because

even though we flipped off Ricky,

he did also say that I should learn

from that and I should try to be

better about that.

Yeah.

He's also what?

Twenty three.

So like,

I wish I had that conviction when I

was twenty three.

That's what I was fixing to say.

Like for him to him to even had

that conviction or to be that self-aware

to say something happened.

I reacted to it.

I reacted badly or I feel I reacted

badly.

Right.

And to say that maybe I should I

should be better about that at twenty

three.

If you threw something at me while I

was doing something,

when I was twenty three,

you'd be lucky to get just a finger

because I'd probably like it probably

would have been a whole lot worse because

I had I had my temper was out

of control back then.

Now, whatever I, you know,

let it let it fly off the handle.

But at twenty three for him,

that had that kind of just be able

to self reflect like that.

That's outstanding.

If you think about the stuff that James

went through as a child,

his dad was an alcoholic.

He was a child of divorce.

Chan is right.

He was also overweight,

probably teased all of that to come out.

And at twenty three, know who you are.

It's wild.

And because he knows who he is,

he is the most dangerous male athlete in

the CrossFit space.

Absolutely.

You have to have the self-reflection post

that Jason did because he already knows

who he is.

Yeah.

Does he want to be better?

Yes.

But he knows one hundred percent without a

doubt who he is.

Jason posted that thing and then it made

me think about some stuff that I had

been I've been working on here lately as

well is

And then a couple of the, you know,

semifinals and games level type athletes

that I know that also talked about it

is if that's been your thing,

like you just want to win,

you just want to win,

you just want to win,

you just want to win, right?

Or you set these goals and you hit

them.

You set these goals and you hit them.

You set these goals and you hit them.

After a while,

it feels almost like it's routine.

And so you get to a point where

you go –

I don't even know how I feel about

this because I I've never done anything

else.

Right now, Jason's one he's lost, right?

He was terrible.

His first couple of games,

everybody knows that it's no secret.

Then he came around and won and whatnot,

but to have that kind of,

for him to even have the self-reflection

enough to say,

is it just about winning?

Is it just about being as good as

I possibly can be?

And maybe winning is the side effect or

possibly not because maybe my good enough

isn't good enough, you know,

for him again,

because we all know that for whatever

reason,

Jason gets the big dumb animal tag

attached,

attached to him on a regular basis.

And clearly he's not right.

The dude's not, I mean, he's not,

you know,

sending rocket ships out into space by any

stretch of the imagination,

but he's also not an idiot by any

stretch of the imagination.

Finding out what they were going through

right before he got to the games,

so he's got all that stuff on his

mind, still going through it and whatnot,

and it probably put a whole lot of

stuff in perspective for him.

What does this actually mean?

Is this all there is to it?

You're looking forward to this thing,

and now all of a sudden it's gone,

snatched out of your hands.

That's a lot, dude.

I just think it was a cool peek

into what his mindset has been.

And he was welcoming people's thoughts,

which is really interesting.

Barry is really wanting us to talk about

Xenon and Reebok.

I believe that they had Reebok in Texas

as well.

I have no idea.

I wouldn't have.

I believe Reebok has been a sponsor all

along.

Oh, it just hasn't been like a...

I think it came back into...

I think they were a late sponsor into

the game with Xenon.

Okay.

But now they are everywhere.

I believe that Volunteer's got Reebok

shoes and all of that stuff.

Reebok getting back into CrossFit with

Xenon is huge.

Wonder why they are working with Xenon and

not CrossFit.

what I think Barry,

you have to understand is a lot of

the people behind Xenon are CrossFit

people.

It is a CrossFit sanctioned event.

CrossFit is an official partner of Xenon.

Yeah.

As Bert said, they got, uh,

they got Reebok shoes.

Um, and Patrick says they were also, uh,

sponsored the French throwdown.

Reebok has never left CrossFit in Europe.

Um,

They have a lot of European athletes still

on their roster.

Yep.

And I still, you know,

all the flashy new shoes that come around,

like the Strike Movements and the Adidas

and all those,

Reebok still puts out some really nice

looking shoes.

They really do.

I will say that.

If nothing else,

they've never gotten like, I say never,

they've mostly never gotten crazy with

their designs or anything like that.

You can still see a Nano is a

Nano.

You can tell from whoever's doing their

designs,

it's not a wild leap from year to

year.

It's a lot more of an evolution.

I like that.

Ortega,

that is way oversimplifying what happened

with Reebok.

There were lawsuits between CrossFit and

Reebok before it ended.

Yeah, it's pretty bad.

And because of that,

that's why the relationship ended.

There were questions as to whether Reebok

was short-cutting the money that they owed

CrossFit using the Reebok store as the

CrossFit store.

Greg Glassman said things about Reebok and

their shoes that were not kind.

Yes, Reebok brought in a lot of money.

Yes, Reebok dumped a ton into the sport.

It was not a great relationship at all

times.

No.

And I believe that because of that

relationship,

when CrossFit saw an opportunity to jump

at Noble,

they just ditched Reebok and went to Noble

in hopes of a better relationship.

And we saw how that turned out.

I will throw shade at Noble any chance

I get because they make the worst shoes

on the face of the planet.

And I will die on that hill.

I hope what Patrick's saying is correct,

that they're slowly trying to integrate

again instead of just, hey,

here's a gazillion dollars, go with it.

Because that makes a lot more sense.

It's better for them, and honestly,

it's better for us.

Do we need money in the sport?

The sport side, not the training side?

Yeah, absolutely.

But we saw what happened.

It blew up.

right games are on espn blah blah blah

and as soon as that money dried up

got sideways and it happened quickly and

it i mean we've been we've been struggling

for sponsors we've been struggling for

this we've been struggling for that like

it's been an entire thing so i think

it's a lot better if it's okay we

slowly reintegrate ourselves and now we

can do this and then now we can

do that and then now we can do

that until it builds up into a thing

Here's the deal.

Reebok doesn't make money at the games.

They make money at the affiliate.

Affiliate numbers are down.

You're not just sponsoring the games.

You're sponsoring the games to get into

the affiliate.

Those are the numbers you're looking to

capture when you're sponsoring the games.

We need to grow the affiliates to get

the sponsor back for the games.

The numbers are way too low of number

of affiliates in the world for a major

sponsor to jump back in.

Yep.

That's the issue.

Did you see Tears jumping back into

Wadapalooza a little bit as the shoe

sponsor?

I did not, but...

Care got a lot of money.

Good.

Well, they were the main sponsor.

Now they're just the shoe sponsor.

Jim Reapers is the main sponsor.

Yeah.

Jim Reapers seems to be kind of...

I won't say stacking their chips,

but they definitely are pushing in the

right direction as far as I'm concerned.

Getting into the space, they said, hey,

we see an opportunity here.

When they first started,

I'll say moving away because I'm sure they

still do their bodybuilding type clothes

and whatnot,

but moving more towards the CrossFit side

of things seems to be working out for

them, so good on them.

Ken Walters,

you're giving nobles way more credit than

I can.

I can't even wear them in my own

house to get from my desk to the

sink.

They hurt my feet so bad.

I've never even put a pair on,

if I'm being completely honest.

But I've grabbed a couple to check them

out.

Like, hey,

let me look at this and whatnot.

And as soon as I picked it up,

I was like, mm-mm.

You might as well pick up a Dutch

clog.

Yeah.

Only less flexible.

Yes.

Like running on two by fours.

Yeah.

No, thank you.

No, thank you.

I had friends give me their nobles when

they hated them.

Yeah.

I actually had someone send me hand

painted nobles with my logo on them.

and I've worn them two times.

Bert said the clogs are more comfortable.

telling you amanda amanda i've said this a

couple of different times i'm sure one

here but like my wife really thought she

liked nobles she really really did and

then would complain that her back hurt and

her feet hurt and she didn't understand

why and finally one day i just bought

her a pair of nanos didn't tell her

didn't warn her did anything they came in

i was like here she came back from

the gym the next morning and i was

like how's your feet and she said they

don't hurt and i was like i imagine

that

This is my one surprise face.

I probably should just hang the logoed

ones on my wall back there because they're

never going on my feet again.

We lost Vicky because her power went out.

Apparently the storms that raced through

Columbus have now headed south to

Tennessee.

Damn!

Yep.

What else?

I don't even I the only other things

I have on here like way off the

rails.

I'm going to end with this.

So my wife and I watch America's Got

Talent as just a show to like,

turn your brain off and watch.

Yes, yes, exactly.

Sure.

So there was there was a girl on

there.

Amazing voice and she sang an Evanescence

song.

Okay.

Can I tell you that Evanescence is the

most frustrating band I've ever listened

to in my life?

Yeah, I can believe that.

And I know I'm not a songwriter,

but the music never matches the amazing

voice that she has.

And it's Amy Lee.

One of the greatest voices in rock

history.

Agreed.

and the bring me back to life is

that the name of the song bring me

to life bring me to life yeah love

that song but the angst and the emotion

that she puts in her voice is not

matched by the band at all no the

music is kind of mediocre and the vocals

her vocals make that song by far i

want it to build and it never does

and it's like that with every one of

their songs

And so, yeah.

I don't know why I wanted to say

that.

Tessa wants to know, do I like Seether?

I love Seether.

Saw them in concert.

They were freaking amazing.

It's a good band.

Let me say something.

Don't have to worry about the band kicking

it up with that group.

No.

Yeah, I went to...

It used to be called Rock on the

Range here in Columbus.

Saw...

cedar shine down slash did you know from

south africa what's that cedar or a south

african rock man really everything on

everything on uh the the google here i'll

be damn i did not know that

yeah so i saw see their theory of

a dead man shine down slash oh and

uh yeah yeah you had me at shine

down rob zombie and limp biscuit all in

the same day you had me at shine

down love love love love shine down in

my top ten bands of all time yeah

So you say divorce dad rock, Daniel,

but there's actually another word,

another term for that,

that people have been using.

And so it's the, it's all the,

like that kind of voice rock.

And they call it butt rock.

And the reason they called it butt rock

is because like in the early two

thousands, right?

Late nineties to early mid two thousands,

it was the rock stations would come on

and most of them would like, you know,

they all had the,

they were all corporate owned at that

point and it was nothing but rock.

And so they just kind of shortened that

to butt rock and then just kind of

lumped all those bands together.

And like,

who's your favorite butt rock artist?

I, uh,

So I think we've talked about it on

the show.

I was in Tallahassee when Creed went big.

Creed was from Tallahassee.

Saw them at local bars.

all that kind of stuff.

And, uh,

that they were the starters of butt rock,

apparently a hundred percent.

Oh, they're, they're, it's one of the,

it's one of the biggest ones is them.

I mean, that's, it's, that's how he's,

that's how Scott's thing.

Yeah.

Like all the time.

Exactly.

Exactly that.

Um, so anyway, there it is.

I'll leave you with this.

Um, do you know who Tyrus is?

i don't think so it sounds like i

should so he was a wrestler he was

a football player he's been on fox news

um but he was snoop dogg's bodyguard okay

so he has a podcast i've never watched

it before this morning and he had kennedy

from mtv on oh and they were talking

about people they've met that was such a

letdown oh i'm sure

And Tyrus tells a story of a young

artist that Snoop said, hey,

keep an eye on this guy.

Take him to this club.

The kid, it was Grammy week.

He had one big hit song.

He was up for best new artist.

Walks into the club.

Nobody recognizes him.

And he's like,

you don't know who I am?

And they're like, no,

we don't know who you are.

Sorry.

So this young artist looks at Tyrus and

his buddy Tiny and says, hey,

we need to go outside and regroup.

And they're like, what?

And so they walk outside and the guy's

like, hey,

you need to go in there and tell

them who I am and that I'm up

for a Grammy and I deserve a table.

And so Tiny goes in,

he comes back out and they're like,

they still don't know who you are.

yeah sorry not sorry so tyrus goes in

and says hey this is who he is

have you this is the song that's made

him somewhat big and um and the woman's

like listen i got robert ory i've got

penny marshall i've got and she just lists

off all these people that have tables yeah

she's like it's gonna be fifteen grand and

i need his credit card right now and

it was chris brown

chris breezy that's fantastic that's

fantastic that's what you get i'm gonna

say this that's what you get for being

that dude yep that do you know who

i am dude no nobody knows who you

are they listed off people that did of

people they ran into that were just awful

yeah it was hilarious it is it's a

clip from the main podcast that you can

get separately it's only like seven

minutes long

funniest thing is kennedy tells the story

of warren g hitting on her oh and

she's like i don't know why he was

infatuated with me i don't know why he

wanted to get with me and tyrus goes

that's because he's a regulator and he

wanted to mount up he's trying to mount

up regulator that is fantastic i think i

spit my coffee out when he said that

but yeah i probably would have to oh

that's um

Terry D, I never knew that about Creed.

My son goes to school there.

I'm often in Talley.

What school?

Florida State?

Florida A&M?

I loved my time in Tallahassee.

It was a different culture.

It was a different world.

I'm glad I only did it for four

years, but while I was there,

I had fun.

Florida is a thing of and unto itself.

So let's go ahead and get that out

of the way.

FSU is such a beautiful campus.

Dude, have you ever been to Auburn?

I know.

So a couple years ago, we went to,

brought the kids to,

it's an indoor water park,

right basically on the state line between

Alabama and Georgia.

And we went,

we were having to be right by Auburn.

And I was like,

I want to go see it.

I've never been, whatever.

It's the most beautiful campus I've ever

seen.

it's incredible it's a small school it's a

much smaller school than i than i

anticipated apparently the entire town is

named auburn which i also did not know

it's like we got there and like you

know the the ways or navigation whatever

was like yeah you're in auburn now i'm

like are we though apparently the whole

town is named auburn but

manicured like the, it was incredible.

It was, the place was beautiful.

I've never seen a college campus look

anywhere near that.

And I, and LSU is pretty nice.

So I,

we went up to visit Jamie and she

lives in Lansing, Michigan,

and that's the home of Michigan state

university.

So I thought, Hey, we're here, Julie,

let's go over, check out Michigan state.

I cannot say that I had the same

experience you had at Auburn.

Here's this.

I'm going to hear about it this afternoon.

Yeah, absolutely.

No, I can.

It was not manicured.

The whole place was all outstanding.

I said, and like winter saying LSU campus,

LSU campus is really, really nice.

It's in a super like nice neighbor,

you know, nice part of Baton Rouge.

Well,

depending on what side of it you're on.

um but i got we got to auburn

and i it was a whole different it

was a whole different thing like it took

what i was used to and went well

past that it was amazing dancing is toilet

water well one of my best friends in

the world lives there so it can't be

all bad but yeah

Beaver Stadium at Penn State is pretty

good.

Amen, Joseph.

That's God's country right there.

If you go to Happy Valley, Pennsylvania,

that is pure God country right there.

You're in a valley surrounded by

mountains.

It is gorgeous.

And Joseph and I will take anyone on

that wants to fight us on that.

Um,

so Daniel asked me who my favorite emo

band is.

I am too old for the term emo.

I don't even understand what that means.

Like my daughter kept trying to tell me

emo and it sounded like what we called

alternative, which is, and honestly,

it's not,

it might be like the newer version of

that.

right an alternative was alternative music

was what we could was what grunge

basically turned into right like it's all

the same it's all played on the same

alternative is like depeche mode erasure

gene loves jezebel new order new order

bizarre love triangle like emotional rock

it isn't all music emotional of some sort

i would hope it is

if it's not honestly i just don't even

know how to answer your question because i

don't know what that genre is if you

could explain it to me i will tell

you who i like from that genre because

i know there is someone so throw out

some names and we could probably go from

there i mean emotional rock to me is

celine dion like she cries in every song

i don't think i would qualify her as

rock but yeah okay

Scott throwing me back to my club days.

I was big into all music in the

eighties.

Like all those bands I listened to,

listen to all the time.

Every time I see you falling,

I get down on my knees and pray.

Don't start with me.

We've had this, we've had this discussion.

It's a blessing and a curse.

If I listen to a song and I

like it, it takes me about two, two,

two times through.

That's for me.

Oh my God.

Uh, T money.

I bet you were the,

the fun one in the clubs.

So I spent my nineties in clubs doing

this cause I was bouncing.

Yeah.

That's unsurprising.

Uh, get that drink off the dance floor.

Yeah.

Get out of here with that.

Don't make me kick your ass.

trained adam from tbs i don't even know

what that means all right with that i

don't know never heard of this never heard

of that so i guess i don't know

emo

There used to be a comedian named Emo

Phillips.

Emo Phillips.

That dude was so weird.

He was so weird.

Oh, my God.

I thought about that dude.

Oh, Lord.

The people would say, hey,

I'm going to be original.

You ain't ever going to be that.

You probably don't want to be either,

if we're being completely honest.

He was popular about the same time

Gallagher was popular, right?

I would say that's pretty much

contemporary history.

All right.

Yeah.

We need to go.

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I have no idea what we're talking about.

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