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SimmBros Pod is your playbook for winning in your 20s. Join the Simmons' brothers, Chris and Cam, as they break down exercise, nutrition, finance, sports, and life lessons — giving you real strategies to build success, one step at a time.
Chris (00:24)
And welcome.
to the Simbros Pod. Yeah, episode seven. Seven of them things. Wow, crazy. Can't believe it. I'm Chris. I'm Cam. And together, we're the Simbros. And we're here to help you win your 20s, people. Episode seven? you, I mean, I think this just is like, gotta keep going.
You gotta keep doing it. And it's pretty crazy to see the difference of even episode one versus seven. And listen, we're way, way just getting started, right? Like we have so much to learn, but even watching us in episode one versus seven, like we were just talking about how I was always looking into the other screen. I mean, the whole time I was like, wait, are you going to look anywhere else? I was so confused. But hey, that's just like with anything in life, right? You keep doing it. You get better at it.
you kind of just like figure out where you need to improve. I think that's kind of like us right now in stretching, Yeah. Like stretching is the worst. Yeah. But you need to do it. It's terrible. But you get better at it every day. It's terrible. I mean, I guess you might get better at it every day. You would think. You would hope. Yeah. And I think that kind of goes back to two saying, like just you wish you started even earlier. Yeah. Because you know how long it's going to take to get good at something. Yeah. Because you think about like the gym, right? Like we started
going to the gym, at least I remember really starting on a gym sophomore year high school. Yeah. I think I was more junior year. Yeah. I went with you a few times. The old 24, the gallery. was there a couple months ago. saw it. were at the gallery. my God. 12 floor gallery. I remember that. Crazy. Um, yeah, I remember like, so like think about that for me at least sophomore year. So that's like seven years of really going to the gym and like exercising.
And like I really haven't been stretching all my life. All my life. it's kind of catching up to me right now. is. is. mean it's just so the and everything's so connected. It's always your back pain. If you have back pain, pretty much any pain is probably related to you not stretching and your muscles being tight. Yeah. Hips. Knees. Hips especially. My hips are...
so bad. You like tore your hips. I don't even know. dude, I, yes. I, dude, oh, let me actually tell the story. Yeah, great. Yeah, you should. Ninth grade, man. Oh, what a, first of all, what a day this was. Oh, unbelievable day. November. Eighth. 2016. Yes, November 8th, 2016. 2016, which was the best year of our lives.
Yeah, besides this one moment. November 8th, 2016. And the reason why I remember the day, it was a Tuesday. Here's how this day went for me. I had braces at the time and one of my braces got caught in my gum. I didn't even know this. And I was bleeding and I was like, this day get any worse? Yeah, it's already bad. Can this day get any worse? sucks. Come on. This is terrible. But then that same night.
was we had tryouts the week before for basketball to see what level you'd be on varsity, JV, freshman, sophomore. I was already good, just letting you know. Whatever. You know what team I was on. The whole summer, the whole fall, this is for winter basketball, so the whole summer and the whole fall I've been on JV. I actually played a little bit on varsity.
We played one game together No video evidence of it by no, I know the one game we ever played First of all shout out her but that game. Yeah, it was we played four or five Our coach almost subbed out this guy cuz he was just bad. ⁓ yeah, like it's actually crazy Anyone who knows basketball like obviously be five players to play and this coach was so just upset the situation if he was like I'll play with four three
Listen, I was a crazy but the only game we ever played together. Yes, no video evidence. Nobody evidence, which is thanks mom. Thanks dad. But anyway, ⁓ so whole summer I was practicing with with JV Loba varsity So when the time comes to like actually get selected to teams, I was like, okay like this I wasn't even sweating Like not even close I was not a fringe guy and you're also a sophomore, right? No, I was friend your freshman, but like it yeah. Yeah, it was like not many sophomores played that year. So JV was basically
Yep, Either way. I was not a fringe guy. I was like pretty confident about it So when the time comes and they start listing out all the names for the teams
you know, listening out all the other guys for JV and I was like, okay, I mean, last name Simmons, maybe they're going down. I was thinking like, okay, well Walker, well, yeah, any either way. ⁓ they don't call my name, but then the coach is like, wait, wait.
I'm missing one person. I was like, yeah, thank God. And a guy, I never forget a guy who was already selected to JV told the coach, yeah, dude, Cam's right there. Yeah, you forgot Cam. And the coach is like, nah, nah, not him. Not Cam. There's a guy practicing with varsity who had to come down. That's what it was. And I was like, wow. Like that cemented it really.
But honestly, like I was annoyed, I was frustrated. All my friends were on JV, or my closest friends at least. So in my head I was like, you know what, whatever. Like they're gonna do this to me? They're gonna do this to me? I'm gonna get them back I'm gonna show them what they're missing out. I'm gonna get them back for real. Bro, I'm not even joking. Two minutes into practicing with the freshman software team, I go up for a layup. And I go up for a layup, I've done it a million times before.
And it literally felt like somebody elbowed me as hard as they possibly could in my hip. the guy guarding me, was on the ground. I was like, why did you elbow me? Why did you elbow me? Because it was hard. And he's like, dude, I didn't touch you. And I looked at the coach. The coach was like, yeah, he was nowhere near you. And I was like, ⁓ no. Because that means it was a non-contact injury. That means it's really bad. I tried to get up, tried to start walking.
No, no, nothing. I couldn't put any weight on it. Like literally none. I got basically stretchered to the... Did the cart come over? Yeah, the cart came over. I got carted off. I got carted off in blue tent Our trainer who's great, man, shout out to Drew.
Drew Kemp.
So I'm in the training room kind of just like trying to figure out what happened. And this is like your first major, first major, first even minor injury. Like I'm trying to figure out what happened. Like I just got put on freshmen sophomore, which I was not expecting at all. Frosh solve. And I think I like
broke my hip or something like your braces. I'm like, can't walk. What is going on? So I was just trying to figure that out. Like kind of in shock a little bit. Yeah. So like doing tests and stuff and I'm like, I'm in so much pain. Yeah. You couldn't move. I remember so
We practice in different areas when you're on varsity versus the other teams. So I practiced out somewhere else and then like I, the practice is pretty much ending and then Drew who cam saw in the training room comes up and it's like, you need to come downstairs. like, why? I'm not hurt. Like what's going on? He's like, yeah, your brother's down here and he can't move. I'm like.
He can't move. Like, what do mean he can't move? Like lock in. You know, lock in. I'm with you. I agree. I really couldn't. So I go down there and he's just like legs sprawled out on this trading table with like crutches on the side. Yeah. And I was just like, what happened? Like, let's go, like get up. It's time to go. Right? Because, also this is a thing, both our parents were working at the time. So we had no like car to get home. We pretty close. We lived close to school. So we just walked back.
Like no problem in a regular situation, but I was like, okay, go get up. Like it's time to walk home. And like, see him pick up the, I see Cam pick up the crutches like, whoa, the crutches, bro. So I was like, what happened to you? He's like, bro, I don't even know. don't even know. really, I mean, what I think happened, cause throughout that week, and this kind of goes back to stretching. Throughout that week, I kind of felt a little thing in my head. Like it was a little tightness, but I was like,
This is nothing. I'm in no pain. Not significant, but I definitely felt a little something. And then I guess it just popped. They said that the muscle came off the bone. loud. I hate those. And it wasn't a... You good? I hate hearing injuries. It squirts No, but it wasn't like a slow. It was a...
It was a pop. it literally, because I don't know if you know Achilles people, they always look behind and say, who stepped on my think someone kicked him, right? Yeah, like who stepped on my foot? It literally felt like that. It felt like somebody elbowed me as I was going for a lip and it, no, just the muscles popped off the
Popped the bone. Gotta stay stretched. I mean, when you're so young, don't It doesn't even matter. But like, it's again, it's everything. It's the compound effect. When you don't do it often, then your muscles become tight and then forward, moving forward from there. ⁓ But I just remember like we had to leave, we had to call it Uber outside the school and like we had to get an Uber Select or whatever because you couldn't fit in like an X. I was trying to like navigate putting these long crutches into the back of the I actually remember that.
Vividly like another thing after
So here's where some controversy started. People thought I was faking the injury. Yeah, because you're the front Because I was on the front seat. Bro, get up, Yeah, they're like, come on. You gonna do this now? Because here's another thing. The trainers told me not to do the typical crutch where I keep my leg elevated and hop on one foot, because that would actually put more strain on my Crazy. Because they told me to walk. They actually told me to walk with just support with the crutches.
So everybody was like, dude, you're not even using the crutches, right? I'm like, no, no, wait, they told me this. I swear I'm swear I'm hurt. I'm not that type of guy who's going to fake an injury. I think this is funny because now our perspectives on injuries, I think I've told you a couple times in my life where I've either played through injuries or I've faked doctor's notes. I can say this now. In high school, think I even- Forgery, man.
very badly sprayed MCL. was standing up straight with my leg and then someone dove into my knee as I was shooting. Made the shot, I'm pretty sure. like, it was hurt and I was still like playing throughout the game. I was still playing throughout the game. I was like, this is not, cause usually I'm like, okay, I'll get better. You know, real quickly. Just gotta like walk it off. And it was not feeling great. So like I ended up.
playing the rest of the game, then I ended up going to this arcade after and moving around and I was like, bro, I can't walk. My knee is so bad. It was laser tag, right? Yeah, laser tag. Yeah, I remember. I remember. it in Vegas, right? went with the team. Yeah, I went with the team. Because I didn't want to miss out. I never want people to think I'm hurt. So I go through that and then I'm like, OK, I can't really play. So I sit out the rest of the next two games of the tournament. I go to the doctor and they're like, yeah, MCL sprain, like two.
months or like two months probably and like that's gonna be the whole season. I'm like okay I'm gonna take at least the like month off that I need and start rehabbing and I wanted to get back before the end of the season because I wanted to play obviously and it gets to the point where like I'm going through rehab and it's not going as fast as I'd like and I'm just like how do I gotta figure this out? my god. And the only way you can come back I kept telling my coach can I come back to practice I kept telling Drew can I come back to practice
And Drew's like, no, you need a doctor's note. You need a doctor's note. So it's like the doctor was not gonna clear me until I was ready. But what happened was he gave me this form. He gave me this form. It was like, I think I was two weeks out from being medically cleared. He gave me this form that said like two weeks away and it was a check mark next to it. And there was also one that said cleared, right? So there were two options you could check. You could check clear or like two weeks away, however long away. And.
He sent it to me as a paper, but then also gave it to me as a PDF to my email or whatever. And at this point, there was just the start of PDF editors. So you could edit PDFs for free. Now it would probably cost, don't know how much in Photoshop, or maybe you can do it with AI. I don't know. So I was just thinking, how am I going get out of this quicker? And it was probably not the best decision, so I uploaded the PDF to a PDF editor, and I unchecked the two weeks away box, and I checked the cleared box, gave it to Drew, and he's like,
Okay, cool. So that's why I had to play with like a big knee brace on my knee for like two weeks because I was also super scared that I was going to hurt myself more, but I was also like, let me get out there. That's just one example. I remember the one baseball when I was pitching and I kept like moving my leg. My hamstring was hurt. You kept like adjusting your cuffs or something. I was hurt. Yeah, dude. I don't know how old I was. I was maybe like seven or eight, but I remember I was like...
What is he doing? And everybody in the stands, I was in the stands, like, what's he doing? Like, did he like pee himself or something? He's getting like adjusting like his comfort and like.
So what happened there? was that? To be honest, I don't really know what actually happened, but I know my hamstring was hurt. I used to have bad hamstrings when I was playing baseball. Yeah. Probably because I didn't stretch. again, I'm seven, eight years old. But I was like, I'm not, it's my start day, right? Like I'm pitching. I'm not missing that. So ⁓ I was just like, you know, let me just like gut through it. But like my hamstrings, I called them like the strings. They were hurting so much. So was like trying to stretch them out after every pitch. ⁓
And that's why looked like the cup, but I was kind of just like moving my leg. But looked like I was adjusting something near my groin area.
But it looked like I was adjusting something near my groin area. No one knew what it was, but I safe to say I didn't have a good outing that outing. So then I took a couple of weeks off. That was bad. I'm not really good at sitting down as you know, like relaxing or at least like taking time off when I know I need to take time off. Yeah. Cause I just want to keep going. I'm not good with injuries. So try to make sure I stretch every day now and keep those injuries away. mean, what Goggins stretches two hours a day. Okay. So listen, let's talk about that. Stretching two hours.
So I love David Goggins. He actually inspired me to run my first marathon and then my second which we'll talk about more running we're doing later, but How do you as he says he stretches for two hours a day and meditates two hours a day where and then he also what runs 200 miles a week How was that pot with this it can't be at some point? Yeah, you are lying about something Maybe for two hours. Maybe that's maybe his meditation is a stretch
I mean maybe, but he always makes it seem like he does it two separate times. He doesn't have a nine to five. I mean that's true. And he probably doesn't sleep for eight hours a day. Fair enough. I'm just saying, it's probably look, prioritize sleep people, but yeah, stretch when you can, meditate while you can. I don't know. I don't have enough hours to do that, do all that. Yeah. Me neither. mean, do you think, so do you think David Goggins is like a good motivation or like, do you think he does a little too much?
That's a good question.
I think it really depends on the audience. you, and it depends on who you are as a person, right? if you're willing to take advice, if you are okay with, you know, kind of being told, I need, you need to be better at something. I think it's actually really good motivation because he will not sugarcoat anything. ⁓
If you need to lose weight, he's gonna tell you need to lose weight. If you need to run more, he's gonna tell you need to run more, et cetera, et cetera. And for people who are willing to change and willing to listen to all outside sources and be able to distinguish what is best for them and what is not,
I think that's actually when it's most key and that's actually how you should be. You should always listen. don't have to like, it's not whatever everybody says is not the gospel. You don't have to believe it word for word, but you should listen. And I think the people who do listen, that's great for them. If maybe, you you're maybe at more beginning stages of your journey or whatever that that might be probably will be fallen upon deaf ears. Yeah. I think it's two fold.
I agree, I think you have to know the type of person, it says with any coach too, some people when you're coaching them, they're better at hard criticism. Some people, know, you have to kind of sugar coat or take them along. It's kind of like the example in basketball of like how all big men, you need to be like super nurturing. Like, Hey guys, you guys are good. Let's go. It's okay. Shout out Aiden and shout out Charlie. Cause that's not what Aiden does with Charlie, but it actually helps about good times, funny times. ⁓ but yeah, so like there's two different.
like schools of thought around that. And David Goggins is definitely more on the like, I'm going to tell you how it is and it's not going to be pretty, but also at the same time, like the only reason why I'm telling you that is because I love you and it's because I know that you can be better. Yep. And I think that's literally the definition of tough love. It's like what I'm saying is out of love. There are people who are straight critical. Don't listen to those people because they don't want what's best for you.
Yep. So people who actually give you tough love, sucks to hear it sometimes, but those people actually want the best for you. Yeah. And it's tough in the moment. Like they call it tough love, but also right. If, that's whether it's with your parents, like I know we've had a lot of hard conversations with our parents and even with coaches when I was young, right? Yep. It can be tense and it can be really bad in the moment, it just takes you time to be like, Hey, this is
They're only pushing me because they know I can do this. And then it's like, if they're not pushing me, that means they don't believe, right? Like once the coach, like every coach I've had will be like, once I stop yelling at you, you never want that. You want me to yell at you because once I stop, that means I don't believe anymore. That means I don't think you're gonna change. And that means I don't want to see you grow. And it's all perspective. mean, like we've all been in that situation where you hear like,
you know, you get yelled at. It's not great. It never feels good. But at the end of the day, especially like the older you get, you realize you needed to hear it A, and that they loved you at B, right? They wanted you to perform to the best of your ability, and you weren't doing it. And whatever situation scenario that may be. Again, important to distinguish between that and criticism. Yeah, exactly. But Gaggen's whatever like,
Criticized yeah, I don't think he's Chris. He always just it's because He's done it. I was gonna say yeah, that's why no matter what he's not telling you anything that he wouldn't do himself And he hasn't He was what 400 pounds. Yep doing like Extermination. Yep at like fast food restaurants and he became a Navy SEAL. Yeah, can you think about that's not possible? No, that's really even the greatest of the great don't become Navy SEALs like you you see the videos on
how to become a Navy That's just what we see. Yeah, exactly. That's just what you see. Crazy point. And so that's why he's like, look, if I've done it, I was in a worse spot than you worse, right. And that's why he's like, if I've done it, you can do You absolutely can. Like, look where I came from. And it's kind of like the same thing where sometimes it comes off as super negative or kind of like he's harassing you. it's like he's upset because if I started where he was thinking, if I started where you started, man.
Wonder where I would be. Yeah, or how much quicker I'd Yeah, like look at you. You're so way ahead of where I was and look how long it took me to get to where I was now. If I was in your position, I'd be right there. It's kind of like sometimes when you're hooping and playing basketball and you have like a super tall guy who just sometimes has no hands or whatever, you're like, man, I would like imagine if I had that height, you know, like sometimes you're like imagine if I had that height. I don't feel the same way. It's like, dude, you're tall for no reason. Like, come on.
was playing with someone last You were hooping with somebody. He comes back home mad. I was playing with someone yesterday. There's this big who couldn't catch I was playing with these two other guys and they're like, let's pick up this guy. And I could already see, I said it. I was like, I don't think he's going to be that good. They're like, he's he's tall, rebounds. No, bro, he can't catch. So we play and it's just like, dude, you're tall for no reason. He grabs rebounds with short arms, layups. That's a whole different story. I was upset about it.
But like, you know, that's where you look at, like where Goggins is saying, hey, look where you are. Imagine if I started where you were. And it's me, like, hey, look how tall you are. I'd be in the league if I was your height.
Yeah, and I also here's the thing though I think it also goes both ways where it's like you also have to know that there are people who on the basketball court who probably would kill to be as tall as you yeah, you know You guys athletic as me as fast as me. Okay. All right. All right. All right But yeah, so I think that also that point too is the perspective right and I think kind of what you're going through right now and just like kind of like thinking about how your
is going to look and all that kind of things, right? You just, you you want to make that next pivot or see where you're going on in life. And sometimes I told you this, was like, do you imagine how many people wish they were in the position you are in right now? you know, it's true. It's true. You forget sometimes. ⁓ It's always good to practice gratitude and like understand where you are right now is a place that somebody would kill to be. And obviously keep your goals high, your dreams high, and keep reaching for those, but also know like,
you know, take a second to stop and smell the roses. Like you got here. You came this far, right? I love doing the thing where it's like, if you look at yourself a year before and you look at yourself now, like if you told yourself a year ago from now that you'd be where you are, I guarantee it's better than you ever could have expected. A hundred percent. Like it really is. A hundred percent. And it's hard to think about that, but it is. I look back to me a year ago. Yeah. There's like, this is crazy. That's what we're doing right now. Personally. I would have never even like.
I about it. If I did think about it, I'd be like, no, absolutely not. Because we're always so worried about other people. Man, other people. It's your life. Where's the autonomy? And so I feel like a year ago, like you're saying, just kind of learning to just accept to be you. And that's all that matters. And accepting that where you are, if you're working on getting to another place, but also you did this. You've come this far. ⁓
successful person right now. know you're, you want things to, you know, get better, right? And they obviously will. We're working to get that, you've done so much already and there's something to be proud of for that. 100%.
Yeah, I completely agree. Uh, I know we, you know, we've been talking about this a little bit about the importance of detaching yourself from the outcome. Yeah. Not being so worried about, you know, literally crossing the finish line every single day, enjoying the process, enjoying the journey. Cause that at the end of the day, that's all that really matters. That's how you're going to get to the finish line faster. And with a smile on your face. No, exactly. Right. It's detaching yourself from.
like the wins and losses. it's life. Life is never, you know, for the people watching, life is never just like a straight trajectory up, right? But the great part about life is that it will be up and down, right? It'll be mountains. But the trend line for anyone who's taken math will actually end up being that line, like up into the Yes. Right. Yes. But it's never going to be fully just no.
He's going to end up going like straight into the right, but there's going to be ups, there's going to be downs, there's going to be ups, there's going be downs, but the average is always going to be continually getting upward. And that's why you need to detach yourself from the outcome because anybody, anybody, literally even the most quote unquote successful person you've ever seen has had bad days, has had bad weeks, has had bad years.
Yeah, I think one of the biggest things is you gotta let the rain fall sometimes, let the flowers grow in the sunshine, right? And so you need the rain. You need the rain, you need the sun. That's how we grow. And it'll never be yay, win after win after win after win. There's always gonna be losses, heavy losses that are gonna try to knock you off your path, but you're gonna keep going. And so I think that's just the biggest thing is just like, take life as it comes.
⁓ Take it for what it is. Don't be deterred. Don't also lose focus if you do get some big wins. Keep going. yeah, yeah. You don't want to be, I finished this, I got success. Great. Celebrate it for a second. I'm done. For as long as you want, but also remember that success is fleeting, man. Especially, you see that a lot in the content creation business. Someone is super famous for...
A week. Talk to her, how long was she famous for? She almost went to jail. I know, and she couldn't even parlay in her life. Success is fleeting, failure is also fleeting. So also don't get too bogged down. When you're down, you're just going to go right back up. It's amazing because you know you can't go down any further. It's only up from here. Yeah, I think that's super important and something we all need to understand and we're all going to struggle with in our 20s probably more than most of our lives because we're trying to figure out like-
who we're going to be with, where we're going to live, our jobs, Like trying to find things. And you kind of see people who are going through it, who are people maybe getting married. You're like, damn, I really want to get married. People are doing this running marathons. Really, I really want to run a marathon. Right? Like you start to get so worried about what other people are doing when you don't realize that you, the person who controls your own life and you can actually do whatever you really want to. Right. And the cliches of it all, like I used to be someone
And you used to make fun of me, now you kind of get it more where the cliches are actually true. They really are. That's their cliches for a reason. Like it's always darkest before dawn. Like it actually is. All this stuff. Like it is darkest before dawn. You have to understand this guy was just talking in cliches, in like little bubble metaphors. It was so annoying. It's true. Even though he was like, yeah, you gotta keep going. But you do though. No, you do. You do.
You're right. You do have to keep going. It is always darkest before dawn. Life is a roller coaster, windy ocean. Life's a highway, baby. Yeah. I driving all night long. Shout out Lightning McQueen. Yeah, always shout out OG, that's the OG right there. Rascal Flatts, man. That's a banger. That's a banger, Sean. But yeah, detaching from the outcome. What do you think you're focusing on right now where you're of detaching from the outcome? Yeah. Yeah,
as people might know, Chris and I are running this SF Marathon. Half Marathon. That's a big difference. That's a 13 mile difference right there. Half Marathon coming up late July. I've never even, like before May, longest I ever ran was probably about five miles at a very slow pace. So I knew that I actually really did have to up the training and
really like kick it into high gear of like, okay, I need to be able to run 13 miles, not like, one of the things about running is I think running is actually so symbolic of life. You can't sprint for long distances and life is a long distance. You can't sprint the entire way cause then you're to run out of gas.
So when you keep running, eventually you get better and you build your stamina, you build your gas and you can actually run a lot faster than you could before when you were sprinting. And that's just kind of how practice goes. You got to keep going, got to keep doing it. So I think right now just been focusing on going at my own pace and I've been seeing great results from it. I've been trying to speed up.
You said you felt good yesterday after your run. I felt really good. I really could have kept going. But I was like, know, training comes first. Yeah. Also my feet. Oh my God, my feet were killing me. Yeah, you got it. That's always happens. I think for me it was my, when I first started running in distance, it was my ankles. Yeah. You're every day, everybody has like their own thing. It was like my ankles and like my groin, but everybody has something. My groin was up. I'm getting better now cause I'm stretching and I'm doing more, you know, functional movements in the gym. But.
But yeah, think detaching yourself from the outcome is important in that, right? Because you never know, you'll have like, you'll start seeing it. Most of your runs will probably be like bad, right? When you're just starting, it's a lot better because you're kind of just figuring out things out. But as you become more of a seasoned runner, a lot of your runs aren't really going to feel super good. You're going be like, that didn't really feel great. Yeah, but I just got to keep doing it because I know if I do this easy run.
at this pace, I will get better and be ready to run faster. Literally like I tried to keep a certain steady pace and kind of as time went on, my body was naturally speeding up and my heart rate wasn't speeding up, which I thought I was like, this is literally what the runner's dream, right? Like I literally see myself currently getting better at running. And it's kind of in the moment, in the moment, it's beautiful to see like
this didn't happen yesterday. This didn't happen today. This happened over the course of months, years of practice and, failure and anger. And so that's just kind of one of the, another thing of just like, there's going to be such bad times doing anything. Keep going. You want to know what the greatest feeling is as a runner? I don't know if you've had it. Runners high. you ever had it? I had, I feel like I had it one time. It's the craziest. Yep.
And I don't think, I don't remember like the last time I've had it, but it's actually, it's just like getting high. Like I really is insane. Right? I think it was super cool. Can you describe what it is to people who never experienced really even can't. The best you can describe it is it's kind of like when you get really hot in basketball, it's like a flow state, know, LeBron and people like LeBron talks about, I think it was the anniversary almost a year ago or not, not a year ago, like to the date.
of his game six game versus the Celtics Miami. And he was like, I'm not even above shoulder right. like, yeah, he was just like, I was in a legit flow state ⁓ and JJ Reddick talked about it too saying he was just in a flow state. Like everything was going in. Bump fades like, I'm not even above shoulder fade. Like it just goes in. It's kind of like your practice takes over. You're not, you're not trying. It's just, it's just happening. And you're gliding. Yeah. It's perfect.
I think that's like the biggest, you look up and you're, look at your watch and I've already run this many miles. Like it feels great. Cause usually it's like, my God, I guess so. It's a slog. I can't listen to this podcast any longer. Like I can't listen to camp talk any longer, but I think the super cool thing about Rotors High and that if you follow a lot of running creators out there, Andy Glaze is someone I like to follow. And I see a lot like he does a hundred mile races all the time and he was legit crying at like 50 miles in he's like, dude,
I don't even know why I'm crying. Like I'm just so grateful I get to do this. I'm grateful I have a body that gets to do this because people don't know. that's like another example of running high. Sometimes you could be just crying randomly on a run or you could just, you know, that's, it happens in all shapes and sizes and it will happen in different ways to different people. Yeah. No. Another thing about gratitude, man, just like appreciating what you, I don't have to be out here. No. And like you also, you might not.
ever like people don't have the ability. Yes, exactly. Physical. So that's why it's just all about gratitude, appreciating the moment. And another thing that I feel like I've gotten at least with better with runners high is running outside. I used to run inside strictly treadmills. And I know sometimes running outside isn't applicable, isn't available to everybody late at night, things like that. you know, busy cities or, know, either way running outside has been the key. Yep.
Because you kind of get to see stuff. Over here, there's a place where you can run and kind of see the plains land. And it's just like, you forget you're running. You're like, my god, there's people in that little flying metal bird. That's kind of crazy. You kind of just get lost in it. you're like, wow. It makes the run go by faster. That's what I've always told people. Running outside is way better than running inside. Because you can put your mind on something else. ⁓
Right? When you're running inside, you're kind of just looking at the treadmill. my God. Okay. Point one miles. I four to go. Right. And I always make sure I try to do one treadmill run a week just to like make sure I stay on pace for some things. And also it helps with your mental at the same time. ⁓ but I also think something that is really good too is like running with people. think once we either start to run more, once you find more people to run with, like that was the one thing that got me through so much of my marathon training.
If Odell is listening to this, I don't know if he is. He probably has his baby to deal with. yeah, so I was like, had 16 miles to do, and I didn't really want to do all 16 by myself because it's horrible. So I would run the first four, and then I'd run eight with him, and then I'd finish four by myself. And the eight in the middle would just go by so fast because we're just talking.
Right. even if we're not talking, sometimes we get into a place where we're like, we're both pushing each other and in flow state. But it just, we're like, I got to keep up with him. You got to keep up with me. Right. Even though it more him keeping up with me. ⁓ they'll say that same thing, but running with people and doing things with other people, it just helps. It just helps. Yeah. So you should check that out. Run clubs, things like that. Yeah. Great. I don't know if they're, how many are close to us, but, yeah.
So I've really never run with people. So I think this new experience is going to be kind of cool.
I think it's gonna be a cool time. You gotta make sure you keep your pace Don't try to sprint too early at the gate or whatever. This one's supposed to be a really nice scenery half. You finish up yet No, was talking to one of my guys. Shout out Michael. Yeah, he was telling me like you can really see the city in the first half Yeah, that's the one we want to do. The city half is not as cool. No through the city.
Yeah. And speaking of sort of gratitude and being thankful to have your body and doing things no matter how you look or feel, right? We saw someone yesterday, we were at the grocery store and this person was definitely not in the best shape. He was a little overweight. He'd tell you that, but he was locked in, he had headphones on, he was running. Right. And I think
Sometimes when people who are not in the best shape, know, they think people are always making fun of them, right? In those situations and cam said something great when we were both walking and I was thinking the same thing it was super funny actually because we both see him run by us and we both start nodding not even knowing the other people are not like we're hyped up for this right now and you know what and he was just like you'll never see someone who has like a better physique than you or who is like knows what you're training for.
ever make fun of you. No matter about how you look, it doesn't matter. We were both like, let's go. Like this is sick. I love this. yes. No, you're making a change. You're making a How could I ever be upset? How could anybody be upset? Never.
You know, one of the biggest things that I, a quote that I saw in a mentality that we're trying to embody is you should be working on yourself so much that you literally don't have time to criticize or critique other people. Cause that's not even important. It's never been important. And so it's just something to pay attention to.
If you see yourself or you see other people critiquing like a little too much, hey, maybe it's time to like work on yourself a little bit more and upgrade yourself because there's no need for that. You'll never find a hater doing better than you. It's true. It's true. You'll never find people who are also doing better than you. You'll never find a business owner make fun of someone for starting a business. No, you'll never find a content creator who's done pretty well for themselves. Never. MrBeast is
making fun of someone for starting content. you're starting content yourself, The people in high school who you're scared who are going to see that, like if they're making fun of you, what does that say about them? people who have...
the brand deals, the people who are doing the things who are making money off their personal brand would never make fun of you for starting. We're never making fun of that person who looked like he probably was just starting his running journey. We're never gonna make fun of that. We're gonna love that and embrace that because we know that it takes courage to do that. It takes courage, takes effort, it takes consistency. And it takes just being your, like actually deciding that you're gonna make a change in your life.
Which in fact, a lot of people sometimes never ever get to that point. They get to the end of their life and they don't even realize that if they had just been like, I knew I need to make this change. They had it the back of their mind, they never made the change. And cause change is scary. And that's a sobering thought. Yeah. Like you can get to the end. Life is so short and small decisions that you may think are small can impact your life significantly. Yeah. And
Making that change early on in your life like we're all in our 20s making that change is Significant and we always talk about it, but it really compounds over time.
If you make that change, whatever the change may be. Or just even decide to make That's what it is. Just put one foot in front of the other and see what happens. Because remember, that's what we were saying. When you decide to make a change, you decide to do something different. It's like what we were saying. When you decide to make a change, you make that decision. But then, like we mentioned before, detach from the outcome. You know you're making
a change and you know it's not going to go great every single day when you're making that change. But if you detach yourself from outcomes of every day and stick yourself into the process going forward, something will change and you'll get to the point where things will change and then it'll start becoming an avalanche, right? It feels like nothing. It's like that. There's more than so many graphs. know there's not many visual. It's like a graph where like you're stagnant doing nothing and nothing's happening. Exponential graph. then you go, yeah, exactly.
Then it's like, whoa, I'm getting this, I'm getting that, and doing all of this is happening at once. But nothing was happening for six months. But then now all of this is happening. But you know the only reason why that, the only way that can happen is by detaching yourself from the outcome and going forward. That's how you make a change and that's how you become the best version of yourself.
You said something great, was that change will happen. It will happen. Like, I know we all start to think like, okay, what happens if I, you let's say you're on a weight loss journey. What happens if I keep doing it and nothing's going to happen and I'm in an even worse spot than before? Change will happen if you stay consistent. It will. It will. So consistency, detaching yourself from the outcome, enjoying the process, enjoying the journey, living in the journey. That's how you reach success.
And finding the right people to go on that journey with. Finding the right people to run with makes running go faster. the right amount of people to surround yourself with to make that change go faster. knowing that the people you want to become would never, ever make fun of you for doing what you're doing. The people you want to be in the future would be the people who are uplifting you in your running journey, in your career journey, in your school journey, anything. The people who...
you wanna be are going to be the ones supporting you. So you should never worry about being made fun of when you're doing something. Because if those people are making fun of you, they are never your friends in the first place. Man, that says so much more about them than it says about you. Exactly. They're just scared or they're upset that they can't do what you Exactly, exactly. It's crazy until it works. And then they ask you, did you do it? That's the crazy part. Well, how did you do it? What do mean, how did you do it?
You were the one who was making fun of me for posting that. You would probably send that to the group chat. Yep. I remember Michael V. Jordan. Shout out, shout out, FBJ. The real Michael Jordan. Michael V. Jordan was in an interview. mean, I'm sure a lot of people have seen this. And actually the interviewer was one of his former classmates who was making fun of him for being corny when they were in like high school or junior high or whatever. And he said, yeah, you remember me? I'm the corny kid, right? Oh yeah. I know that story.
And he's not smiling, he's like, yeah, I'm the corner. She's like, no, no, you're not. Guess what? Guess what? Look at where they are now. Crazy until it works. Crazy until it works and they ask you how you did it. Literally she was asking him how he did it. Man. Got Out Centers, great movie. Great movie. Great acting.
Speaking of great acting and speaking of a sinner, Coach Mark Dagnon. Dagnon? I think it's Dagnon. No, but it's French.
But like some people say dagnault. Yeah, that's me the right it's like it's like it's not Hugh blotting But I feel like he would be someone too. He's like kind of weird where he would just like let anybody call them Whatever it is like or he'd be really strict. But what did you call? Well, that's Michael below but that's someone who's been like Michael below Yeah, I don't care what you call me like no, what's your name? What's your name? Just tell me how you like it to be pronounced like yes No, no, no, no, bro. No, you can call me Christ
Like, that's not my name! Yeah, Cram. Yeah, exactly. Speaking of though. Yes, acting. That is... Like, I think from the beginning of the game, we talked about this,
Richard Jefferson and lot of the podcasts I was listening to just talked about how the thunder changing their starting lineup in game one of the NBA finals as the number one seed in the home team. just showed weakness already, right? It showed doubt and doubt. Here's, here's the one thing though.
not to be a Monday morning, like I think we're all kind of being Monday morning quarterbacks. Cause if the Thunder won by 15, my God, what a great coaching move. They went for the kill like automatically. So I mean, obviously when you lose a game, you're not supposed to lose people going to point out the coach. That's just kind of how we talked about the coaches lose games, players win them. ⁓ so
him making that move now because they lost, looks like a terrible move. Yeah, it looks like a desperation move when there's no desperation needed. You're the best team. They got to adjust to you. got adjust to you. it goes back to me thinking about teams. We've seen this a lot in times where sometimes you have a center that you don't really want to play too much, but he starts. I think about JaVale McGee on that Lakers 2020 team. He would just play his first four minutes, four minutes to start the...
first part of the game, four minutes to start the game and four minutes to start the second half, that was it. That was it. But like that was like just the starting lineup because it was their flow. Yes. Because imagine going into the point, into the huddle before a game of league or even into the locker room being like, Hey, we're going to start Kacen Wallis instead of Hartenstein. Yeah. But like
with no real idea, right? Like you could start Hartenstein and just play more of Kaysen Wallace and less of the two bigs. And that would just be better for the players' When you're thinking why we have to change, we're already scared of what Indiana's gonna do when they haven't even done much. Yeah, it shows weakness. Especially, like you expect to see that for the other team. Not the team that's 80 and 12 or whatever. 80 and 18 all year. Like they've been dominant. I mean, they have the most 30 point wins in playoff.
history I'm pretty sure. And it's not even the finals yet. It's not even the finals. They've been dominant. You don't change that. It doesn't matter, you know, at least not for game one, right? Cause like game one is like, I'm to give you my team, you're going give me your team. Let's see what happens. Then we can make some adjustments. Game one brawn. Yeah. Game one brawn. Feel out game. Feel out. We saw Lakers do it. I don't know if it was the best idea, but game five, the Lakers didn't play Jackson Hayes because they thought that would just give them more favorable matchup.
It didn't, and that's why they're all in Cancun right now. But it was at least an adjustment made later off. Same thing with the Knicks with Josh Hart. Yeah, exactly. Right towards the end. And it might have been even too late in the Knicks case, but who knows, right? As this is game one, it looks weak. Put all your cards on the table, or put all your base cards on the table. Let's see how we play in base matchups, like NFL. Let's just play base defense. Let's see what happens. And then like,
you know the second quarter of third quarter game to get three game force when you start bring out adjustment right now because think about how many justin's the paces have their display regular right now and the third use their quote one adjusted so far they've only a ton more but for sure they used it right in like what do you think about to how she played i'd love how we played
I didn't like it at all. Yeah, I don't care how many points he had. It was another weird Che game. Like he's had good games where like, obviously he scores a lot, but he had some, I remember his game four against the T Wolves in Minnesota. Huge game. He had like 49 and 10. And you felt it. Like every time the T Wolves were going to low run, cause it was in Minnesota, he would stop it with a bucket or an assist. Great pass off that double, like looked into Che on the, on the.
Yeah, exactly exactly like that. I like that kept happening. was like, this is a great shade game. Yeah, nah the game won He just kept taking shots and look he was making a lot of them to be fair to him Yeah, but he kept taking shots. The offense was so stagnant. They were watching him and when she takes this many shots J-dub, yep, nowhere to be found. to Chet barely played or to be fine And like then you're you're hoping like Lou Dord hit five threes
You should win that game. That's not going to happen again. Five threes and four steals, think. You should win that game played great. He had like six rebounds in the first quarter. He had a blue door, played a great game. He's not going to do that again. And I'm not saying that J-Dub's going to be bad again, but Shea has to allow them to be great. That's the one thing about your star player. He has to allow other players to be great. That's the burden of a star. That's why it's so important.
tough, right? To be a star. Cause you got to also make sure you do your stuff. Of course. put up your 30. Yeah. But also you got to make sure everybody else is ready to go. You know, it sucks. Cause I mean, you know, when you go to the media after you get your interviews and let's say you let everybody else cook and you didn't, they're like, what happened to you? happened to you? Yup. And then you have a machete. I love Joe Mazzullo, the Celtics coach said this one time, he was getting interviewed and at the interview I asked him,
He said, is it troublesome that Jason Tatum has to deal with all the media pressure? And he corrected the interview and he said, gets to. It's a privilege. So the one thing about being a star, obviously you do have to deal with a lot, a lot. Star quarterbacks all the time. But it's a privilege. It's an honor. so- can be another podcast. Pressure is the privilege. Pressure is a privilege. Keep notes of that for next week or whatever you're doing. Yeah, it is a privilege. It sucks, but it's good. You get paid the most? Yeah.
get to do all this stuff. And I that's really important. And I think I agree with you on the Shea part. I think he was taking too many shots, too many kill shots, too many shots where he was like, let me just take a pull-up dagger three here. I don't really need them. Get into the offense. And again, you can put up 38 points, but if your second leading scorer, I think, was Dort, Dort should not be your second leading scorer. Maybe even Hardenstein off the bench. That's not how it should be. There needs to be more balance.
You've got to be putting up 30, but you've got to at least have six to eight assists to make sure you're setting up the rest of the team. Agreed. it became a lot of stagnant type of like James Harden, you know, let me just watch him go. And he took a lot of shots, right? I think he took, I don't know how many shots he took, had 38 points, but it was at least 30 shots, right? So many shots. 18 shots in the first half. Yes, yes. Like he just felt like that's not normally how he goes, right? Like he felt like was just taking more shots than he had to. Like he wasn't confident in the rest of his team. I know that's not how he feels, but that's...
That's what came off. That's how it goes sometimes. Yeah, but like kind of getting to the Pacers, I didn't love what they did at all until maybe the middle of the fourth quarter. It felt like an AAU game where they were going up against like a better, a ranked team and they're just throwing the ball. It's like they were scared to have the ball throwing bad passes. Like it made no sense. It like they were, they were kind of drunk. It was like a 7 a.m. game. They were tired or something. It was like, was like, and also to be fair, the Thunder defense is
of course. Insane. you drive the ball, Caruso's coming from the weak side corner. That ball's gone. You lost it. try to skip pass and go. No, it's like it gets like Randall. can't. You think you're just going to get in there and like have the ball so loose. Come on. But it's also true to Tyrese Halliburton said it. And I always find this so fascinating. And I've probably mentioned this before. It's like.
NBA players get nervous. People get nervous just like everybody else. If you're 10 years old, nervous before your first basketball game, listen, NBA players are nervous for their fans. The greats, Like Tyrese said, we were all nervous. Yeah, he said I was nervous the entire first time. Right? Like, so all that stuff, like people still feel it. Human beings feel it. Even if you're in the NBA, even if you're
CEO of Fortune 500 company. You're still a human down there. Yes. Yes. And that is so fascinating to me. You're like, they just play basketball all the time. Like they can't be nervous. It's almost refreshing. Yeah. Cause like, like you, look like these guys are heroes or superheroes. How, how do they do these things? And some of the things they do, the athleticism that they have, the skill that they have, is unfathomable, but they're still human beings. tie their shoes exactly like we do. My coaches always say this is, that's the number one thing. That's the number one thing that coaches say.
know you're supposed to lose, right? When you're going up against like, we would always play this team, it's called Sierra Canyon, they would always have all these NBA players, right? Which NBA players did you play against in high school? Well, me? I'm good about it. I know I played against Barbara Bagley. I played against... Zaire, Williams.
Brawny I played also against we played against the Ball brothers. They didn't play because we were that bad, right? They were like we don't even need to worry ourselves about it's still loved by what for exactly? I don't know what it Yeah, we still we play like Eli Scott a Kong Wu's on the Hawks right now a lot of other guys but we go up against Sierra Canyon has like a slew of either NBA players or high major D1 talent and we have no real high major D1 talent I mean didn't be exactly so that's his Aaron Holliday. Yeah, exactly. So
And then like what our coach always says they hate they got to put on their pants just like everybody else like they're human and like Come on now like we have no chance their pants are a lot bigger than body You want to go see some highlights again Jack Herman? I'm sorry brother Go search up Campbell versus Sarah Canyon. I think it was
2018 on YouTube, the game. It's actually, it's legit a massacre. It's a massacre. It was like, also like a 10 AM game at That was Scottie Pippen Jr. Oh yeah, Scottie Pippen Jr, yeah. Cody Riley, Cassius Stanley. Kenny Martin Jr. KJ, yeah. I love Cassius. Yeah, Cassius is my guy.
Yeah, we're crazy. I mean you played this is a random Sunday random Saturday morning It was to be like Tuesday at 7 p.m. And they switched it to like Saturday at 10 so that no one could see the massacre that was gonna happen But yeah, go go watch that but that's kind like the whole thing That's what coaches always say about teams that are like you perceive them to be gods, right? And you perceive every a players to be yes gods, right? I we've made a video that we thought Tyrese Halliburton was gone. He still might be after
Yeah, but like they still get nervous too, right? Even if they feel like they're like higher power which Tyrese Halliburton might be. Whoo! Can we talk about that? I don't even want to I don't even know. I can't even can't even. Not once, not twice, not even three times. four, not five, not six, not seven. They only ended up winning two by the way. It's fine. Two out of four it's pretty good. 50 % club. Yeah. Either way.
Tyrese Haliburton is the most clutch player I've ever seen. And I feel comfortable saying that. On the most clutch run, I think most people have ever seen in their lives. Yes. He's on a... I don't want to call it a Dirk run, because I think Dirk shouldered a little bit more than Tyrese did. Yeah, definitely. But it is a close to Dirk type of run. It is getting ridiculous at this point. I've never seen somebody... I mean, and another thing...
He had 12 points going into the last shot. didn't care. didn't matter to him. He wasn't even playing well. He was going to take that shot. And guess what? It was going to go in. And I love this Rick Carlisle. shows you when a coach is like really in tune with this team, this is how you know it. Like he knew exactly what was going to happen. I'm not calling a timeout.
All of us are yelling time out. Like we get it at there's points where like, go, go, go. But when you said it, when Obie Toppin had the ball in the back court and they weren't really moving, we're like, call a timeout. The last thing I want is Obie Toppin with the ball in the back court with less than six seconds. He's going to throw it to the rim. He's going to shoot it. Time out. Get it out of his hands. hey, fair to him. He found Tyrese. Tyrese came to the ball. He had a little cross match because it should have been Lutdord on him. He Kason Wallace on him.
It's still a great matchup though. Yeah, it's still a great defender. But man, I was like time out and I guess Rick Hallell saw something that we didn't. That's why he's gonna pay the big bucks and we're over here. Just talking about it. But that shows you like when you're really in tune with your team. Yes. Rick has been making great calls all playoffs. Yes. Being just sticking with what he knows and knowing that I'm gonna live or die with this group and you know a great coach.
this is what will happen. He'll always prepare you. I guarantee you they practice that situation. Guys, I'm telling you this, I'm only calling a timeout if it's a dire situation. So play, play. Like play this if I'm not calling a timeout.
Figure it out. That's what I love and you know, this is Insanely great coaching and it goes back to me about like being prepared as a coach We're not gonna talk too much about football, but that shows you the difference when the Chiefs are playing the 49ers in the Super Bowl
and it's the first time a Super Bowl game goes to OT with the new overtime rules, which in the past in overtime, you, the person who got the ball first, they scored a touchdown. Yep. Right. It was.
Automatic the game was over game was done if they scored a field goal the other team got an opportunity to possess the ball again Yeah, but in the Super Bowl, obviously you want you don't want it to end on kind of like a sudden-death coin toss situation Yep, both teams get to possess the ball the Josh Allen rule. Yeah Yeah, how many rules is he? We'll get into football later. But yeah, so both teams get to possess the ball regardless if they score a touchdown
and even get a two-point conversion, it doesn't matter. Both teams get it. So that's what you need to know about this situation. And Cam, what kind of happened from there? disgusting. I'm not even a Niners fan, but I'm just more disgusted. If I was a fan, I'd be so disgusted. Super Bowl because it's mic'd up. Everywhere. So ⁓ all the players have mics. You can actually hear their in-depth conversations, which is fantastic. I fully recommend everybody watch Super Bowl mic'd up.
But you could hear there was a lot of confusion on the San Francisco sideline. They were like, oh, wait, we got to get the ball first because we got to score and then the game's over, right? It's done. And they're like, OK, yeah, we get to get the ball. And then randomly, like a coach comes over and is like, no, no, no, both teams get it. And then people are fighting. They're arguing. Either way, it's a lot of discourse that's going on on this side. And then you look at the chief sideline like, we practice this. Practice this.
We prepared this. know exactly what we're gonna do. If we get the ball first, we're gonna score and we're gonna go for two. If they get the ball first, they're gonna score if they score a touchdown, we're gonna score and go for two. They knew what the situation was. They were prepared and therefore they were more successful. That's why they won the game. Thank you. Disgusting. Sometimes it's crazy, right? You don't realize that. The team wasn't prepared. Whoever was the captain, I think it was Juszczek, he goes out there he's like...
I guess we're to take the ball because that's what I thought. Because that's how it used to be. Yep. No preparation. You interview Mahomes and you read after they're like, and Kelsey, we practice this from training camps. We had a rules expert come in and tell us all the new rules. So we knew exactly what we were doing if the game goes into overtime. Right? You would never think a Super Bowl game is going into overtime. It's probably like, that is so far down the That's very rare that's going to happen. But it does. And the reason why they're great, the reason why
They won and they continue to win is because of those moments. And like, you can hate on them. we definitely started to stop rooting for the chiefs. I remember against the Patriots, everyone root for the chiefs. And now look, they became exactly what the Patriots were. the reason why the Patriots won too, always prepared. Always prepared. Brady will say it, Bill Belichick was more prepared than anyone, at least back then. I don't know about what's going on now, which we'll talk about more later. But that is the difference. And that goes back to Rick Carlisle.
Yes, always being prepared. They knew exactly what they were gonna do at that moment failing to prepare is preparing to Every time it rings true. It doesn't have to be sports. It's life. We talked about the Osama bin Laden mission They were they were prepared for everything everything every something that literally had point zero zero one percent chance of happening They were prepared for it because it might happen and then guess what in that mission something happened that they didn't even prepare for
⁓ But they were still ready yeah, because they'd have planned a B C D E all the way down probably like multiple has B either way I know we're coming to an end in this episode do you want to get your Prediction for this Thunder Pacers game to what do you think's gonna happen? Yeah, what do you what are you looking at? Yeah, I think Probably most of you think the same thing. I think the Thunder are gonna
pretty much control this game throughout. I think this is a desperation game for them, right? It's kind of like the Minnesota Thunder series game three. It's like, if you're down two, oh, if you don't come out and win by 20, like if you don't come out firing at least up like 20 to five or 17 to seven real quick, the thing I would love when coaches say is like, make them call the first time out. Indiana should be calling the first time out. If they're not calling the first time out, I think there's.
there might be a problem. Honestly, you, you, I remember when you first said that like a few years ago, I've been paying attention to it. Make them who pay attention who calls the first time out. always tells you what you need to know, especially in college because like, yeah, especially in college. Cause you know, there's a game script, right? You're like, okay, maybe this will happen. That'll happen. If something happens outside of the script, the coach is like, okay, hold on. We got to stop this. We got to regroup. And so that's always a big deal. Whoever calls the first time out is like the first.
to notice that their team is deviating from whatever they're supposed to be doing. So I definitely agree with that.
We saw the Pacers in game two in last series against Knicks. They kind of came out firing. Exactly. And that's when you kind of, your eyes were up If you're a Knicks fan, you're like, okay, we just barely, should have absolutely won game one. Now game two, not hungry, we're not feeling it. That's always a scary thing to see as a fan of that team. So if I'm a Thunder fan, I'm absolutely keyed in on them going on our early run and
sustaining that lead throughout the rest of the game therefore i have the paces losing game two thunder winning by a lot ⁓ i do think that the at the end of the day the paces will be happy that they split the series is all that do now is protect on court yet they're not winning this game i'll be extremely happy she's not about it you emergency parts of the world we've got to but i think we're both feeling safe that it be a one-one series yes that's right
Thunder should not if they want to win the chip they cannot lose this game and they can't they can't win by a little bit either Yeah, this has to be alarms off. Yeah, they don't they don't really have a good game I remember you said this in the middle of the fourth quarter you asked me ⁓ When when the game was a little bit tighter, but it looked like the Thunder were still gonna win You're like does this mean anything? This is when even though the Thunder win does it does it mean anything for the Pacers? I said it does mean something because they should be winning
I mean, I've never seen finals odds like that. Yeah. ⁓ like it's so un-proportionately matched, unevenly matched. I've never seen anything like that. And the fact that it was that close says something and they even lost game. That close with 24 turnovers, 20 in the first half. so Indy is going to be happy with a one-one tie going back to their home court and it's going to be rowdy in what is it called? Fieldhouse. Something field house. Some field game bridge. Yeah.
Yeah, excited for this week. think so game three is on Wednesday game four is on Saturday or Friday and I think game five is on Monday. So Wow, they're pushing it. They push it. like to push it. So at least we'll have some things to talk about. Well, at least the series should not be over. But you never know. You never know like what might happen. That would be the craziest thing ever. Yeah.
And yeah, so just to wrap it up for the challenge of the week, figure out the outcome that you need to detach yourself from, the goal that you're going for, detach yourself from the outcome, and just embrace the journey a little bit more. Figure out what that is. It could be anything. And it could be something as small as just like, hey, I want to watch less TV, or like something as large as, I want to.
you know, go back to law school or something. And so, you know, just appreciate the silence. Appreciate the everyday things of life and appreciate that it's going to be up and down. And it's going to be okay. With that, we'll be signing off for this week's episode. Simbrose Pod. See y'all next week. Stay locked.