shiny (for the moment)

This week, a few passionate parents and I can barely contain our admiration for the show Bluey to one podcast. Regan Riskas Maas is not only a mom who helps us peel back the layers of the beloved show on Disney+, but is also the creator of her own animated children's series inspired by, set in, and created in Africa (Twende!). Celeste Brown, mother of three plus new pup, doesn't shy away from her own self-doubt as a playful parent OR her attraction to Bandit Heeler. In addition to sharing the mic with me, Regan and Celeste also share experience in the alcohol distribution industry, with Regan newly partnering with a celebrity on an award-winning gin. Toons and booze anyone?

Regan Riskas Maas
LinkedIn
Twende trailer! the happy-go-lucky pangolin from the mind of Regan and hubs
Papa Salt Coastal Gin

Celeste Brown
@celesterbrown on insta

Joe Brumm, creator of Bluey!
Bluey Theme and Keepy Uppy, by Joff Bush
Bluey's Big Play live show on tour
Bluey x Camp Keepy Uppy Ball

Other References:
Big City Greens on Disney+
Horizontal Parenting: How to Entertain Your Kid While Lying Down
The Watch podcast w/Andy Greenwald and his segment "Daddington Island"

As many of the Bluey eps we mentioned as I could gather, by season, available on Disney+:
Season 3
The Sign (linked because our convo about it is so meaty)
Omelette
Rain
Whale Watching
Musical Statues
Ghost Basket

Season 2
Favourite Thing
Escape
Christmas Swim
Handstand

Season 1
Keepy Uppy
Daddy Robot
Bike
Fairies
Camping
Chickenrat


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Erica Alshuler (01:26)
we're talking about Bluey

I've brought on two very special moms to have this conversation and talk about Bluey today. Celeste Brown, who has quickly become one of my closest

Celeste Brown (01:36)
Hello.

Erica Alshuler (01:38)
of her humor and infectious energy, pretty much most importantly, because we share my favorite quality. So yes, I'm humble bragging here of not taking yourself too seriously. And that is like my favorite quality in a human. And so what better voice to join me on an episode talking about a children's television show. Thank you, Celeste. And welcome.

Celeste Brown (01:57)
Hello, thanks for having

Thank

Erica Alshuler (02:01)
Regan, Riscous Moss, those paying attention, you might recognize the name. She is sister to Evan, who you've heard before, but never in her shadow. Regan is a creative genius in her own right and incredible a mother, of course, to two little humans. And another perfectly goofy, not serious spirit to join us in this convo makes it extra cool to have Regan on today is that,

Regan (02:10)
it.

Erica Alshuler (02:26)
in addition partnering with Margot Robbie on making a gin, we'll talk about that later. I know, Celeste, bomb drop. We're going to get invited to meet Barbie. Award -winning gin. I'm very excited. Okay, we will talk about that. But in addition to that little side hobby, she and her husband, Charlie, an series called

Celeste Brown (02:31)
What?

Where's my gin cocktail? Gin like the drink.

Regan (02:38)
Toons and boos, baby!

Yeah.

Erica Alshuler (02:53)
Twende, which I just learned is a Sahili term that means let's go, which is what my kids say all the time. Let's go, let's go. I can't wait to hear you talk about think you've told me before Bluey was definitely inspiration and or like at least considered in this process. the surface, Bluey is another kid's show.

Regan (02:58)
Let's go, let's go! Twende, twende!

For sure.

Erica Alshuler (03:14)
And if you don't have kids, you've probably wondered like, what is all the fuss

the coolest thing that I've learned about it is first off 50 plus episodes. Yes, there are only seven minutes, but 50 plus per season are all of the mind of this one.

guy, the creator. I mean, he essentially writes and creates every single thing that they put out. Obviously, he has these incredible animators. The animation is beautiful and goes into shots that just pull you out into it's so beautiful. And the score is original for, I think, almost every single episode I've heard and quite catchy, as we know. Yes. Yeah, we were hoping. Yes.

Regan (03:49)
love.

Love the music.

Celeste Brown (03:52)
Yes. And here I go, I'm going to play it. Just kidding. There's a piano behind me for those listening.

Regan (03:56)
Yes.

Erica Alshuler (03:59)
So, Les is in front of a piano where we're really hoping she could just bust it out,

Regan (04:02)
Louis dance parties at home are the

Erica Alshuler (04:04)
Yes. taught us how to dance party. They taught us how to freeze dance. They've taught us so many things. The way it captures a handstand, keepy upy, we have an official bluey keepy upy better than a balloon because it doesn't pop, but it's as light and like wonky. I highly recommend. It captures parenthood and childlike wonder in this.

Regan (04:11)
How to do a handstand.

Erica Alshuler (04:25)
it hits hard for adults. It hits deep for kids without feeling I cry often, but laugh consistently. dive makes Bluey so GD shiny. Magical. Celeste, I wanted to kick it off with us about your kid makeup, who you have in your house and why in the world you felt.

Celeste Brown (04:26)
Thank you.

Regan (04:37)
Magical.

Celeste Brown (04:41)
Yes.

Erica Alshuler (04:48)
so ready to just come on and talk about a children's show on a podcast.

Celeste Brown (04:52)
Well, first I like to hear myself talk. So that's part of it. So here I am. Listen to me world. I have things to say. I am Celeste. I have three kids, kindergarten, third and fifth. So that's five and a half, nine and 11, an 11 year old daughter. all watch it. You know, I was, it's like, so that's what I'm saying. I was looking at when Louis started, cause I'm like, how did this just like,

Erica Alshuler (04:54)
Win -win.

Regan (05:00)
Thanks for watching!

Erica Alshuler (05:09)
and do all three watch it.

Yeah, same here, 10 down.

Celeste Brown (05:20)
catch on, but it was right at the start of COVID. It was January, 2020 when it came to the state, sorry, to Disney Plus. That's when it came. Cause I was like, how old are the kids?

Regan (05:26)
Yeah.

Erica Alshuler (05:26)
No way!

Well, and that's when Disney Plus was early and it was saving us all in COVID. That was game changing world. Continue.

Celeste Brown (05:35)
But I was just before I coming on today, I was like, how old were the kids when they first started? Because I think the Bluey dolls behind me have four, I have the whole family behind me who can't see, but it's like, who bought those? I get those for my middle child or the youngest child because when did we start watching Bluey? Because they're all fans. And so I think that's another big piece of it that we were all kind of in our houses.

Regan (05:36)
yeah.

Erica Alshuler (05:54)
Yeah.

Celeste Brown (06:02)
two months after Bluey premiered its first episode, Disney Plus. And I think just everyone bench -watched it. So it is like this amazing show, but it's also that's how everyone just got drilled into this show, I think. So that's crazy.

Regan (06:08)
Yep.

Erica Alshuler (06:11)
timing.

Well, and that not to cut you off, that's part of, I think, the obvious thing when parents have seen Bluey that they, you notice right off the bat is like these two little girls, which by the way, I definitely thought Bluey was a boy for like, all of us did for at least a year. Yeah, yeah, he matches the dad, but it's a she. But you notice that these two little girls play so well. And now this is gonna bring up stuff that we talk more about, but about.

Regan (06:29)
Me too.

Celeste Brown (06:29)
Most of the time.

Regan (06:31)
Meet you.

Erica Alshuler (06:41)
what that tells us about our parenting or our children or our day and family dynamics. you're so right. I never thought about the COVID angle. We were all home. They just play in the home. They're not on their screens all day. The parents tackle real things like screen time. I am so glad you looked that up, Celeste. And Regan, I saw you nodding your head like you had something to add Yeah. Welcome.

Celeste Brown (06:56)
You're welcome. That's why I'm here. And that's it. Neck drop, I'm No.

Regan (06:57)
Yep. Well, we were moving into our house in LA and I had Junie who was 10 months and Rowan.

Erica Alshuler (07:07)
Which by the way, you guys bought it in COVID and didn't get to see the home, right? Sorry, interjected.

Regan (07:12)
That was all a bit of a weird went from San Fran to LA during COVID, I was pregnant with my second and Bluey, thank God for Bluey. Yeah, we watched, we binge watched it. I think we might've been the first family to be the Bluey family for Halloween, because nobody on the block knew what we I was chilly.

Celeste Brown (07:13)
wow.

Erica Alshuler (07:32)
is early. I'm so jealous.

Regan (07:37)
We had Bandit, Charlie was Bandit, and then Junie was Bluey, and newborn Roro was of course, bingo. And people on our block was like, they were confused, they were like, you guys are all dogs. We were like, no, we're Bluey. You don't know Bluey? They're like, no, we've never seen just remember, because Junie was so young, we thought, okay, this screen time, we were getting new into that.

Erica Alshuler (07:44)
my gosh, that's perfect.

Celeste Brown (07:53)
They're cute.

Erica Alshuler (08:01)
huh.

Regan (08:02)
You don't feel guilty watching Bluey. It's like, it's so fun and playful and colorful. And next thing you know, you're all jumping on the couch to mom, dad.

Erica Alshuler (08:05)
not even for a second.

Yeah.

Regan (08:16)
and you're building forts and you have flashlights and it's just this whole kind of imaginary world of play that it just ignites every joyous fiber in my being of being a playful parent, which I think is important.

Erica Alshuler (08:28)
I do, and I want to pin that because I definitely wanted to have it makes you feel as a parent conversation. But I do want to say not feeling guilty watching it, A, the reasons you just mentioned, there's inspiration for play that seeps into everyone's minds and ends up being infectious. But there's also the quality of the energy. All these shows, and I didn't realize this until someone pointed out to me that when you go see,

Regan (08:49)
Yes.

Erica Alshuler (08:55)
like a Minions movie, you're just like accosted by lights and color and sound and your senses are just like, and that's our world we live in all the time, right? And Fortnite, my oldest place, I mean, we're not even going to go into that, but you know, these sensory overload and the peacefulness of Bluey is, and we watch it, you know, they say don't do TV at night, right? light, whatever. I'm like.

Celeste Brown (09:01)
Yeah.

Regan (09:03)
you

Erica Alshuler (09:18)
That's what our family does. That's what I did growing up. Sorry. We do family TV at night. I know. like our bedtime routine is, okay, Bluey in bed. And we watch one Bluey at seven minutes. Everyone has to calm down, get And in seven minutes, our kids somehow decide they're starving and eat an entire other meal, but they have to do it in those seven minutes. And it's just, it's calming.

Celeste Brown (09:19)
Whoops.

Regan (09:29)
Seven minutes, winding down.

Celeste Brown (09:32)
Tell it about time.

Regan (09:41)
Yep.

Erica Alshuler (09:43)
And I mentioned earlier those moments where they're like zoom in on the leaf bug on Bingo's nose. And it's like the detail and the light or the way the stars are twinkling or the leaf is falling. It's just, it's Zen.

Regan (09:54)
Yes!

Or how about the rain episode? No words. Just put on the rain episode. Let's wind down.

Celeste Brown (09:58)
What the?

Erica Alshuler (10:02)
Celeste didn't know this one. It's a classic.

Celeste Brown (10:04)
I did it, I had to look it

Regan (10:06)
Well, if we're trying to wind down and people are people, my family, my kids, Charlie, we're jumping on the couch. We're like, you know what, let's put on the rain episode and let's just take it down for seven minutes. Watch Bluey try to catch some rain and then we'll go to bed. We'll go to bed.

Erica Alshuler (10:10)
Heheheheh

Celeste Brown (10:11)
Those guys.

Erica Alshuler (10:14)
Yes.

Celeste Brown (10:17)
That's a great call.

Erica Alshuler (10:21)
I mean, when you think about that, that's little calm meditation from the Calm app, right? Like rain sounds, teamwork, the mother ultimately abandons her own, you know, adult need to stay dry in the rain to make a memory with her child.

Regan (10:25)
Yes.

And just quit.

And quickly back to your point about other content that's just like, I have younger kids, Junie's almost five, Roroh just turned And we still have cocoa melon going on in the house. We barely allow it. We barely allow it, but they're still, what I mean to say is they're still in that age level where that's an option when they see the screen grab on the thing. They're like, let's watch that. And mommy and daddy say,

Celeste Brown (10:48)
Lo siento. Which means I am sorry.

Erica Alshuler (10:57)
Mm -hmm.

Celeste Brown (10:57)
I'm out of here.

Regan (11:03)
That show scares me because it's a scary show. Because it's like, yes, it's bright colors and music, but in the way that that, just think about the different like bluey bright colors and music, Cocoa Melon bright colors, soulless, right? There's no soul there. Here, you can, and my kids turn into zombies when they watch Cocoa Melon.

Celeste Brown (11:05)
It's bizarre. And the animation like...

Erica Alshuler (11:08)
Because they're robots.

And at least the music is slower, but...

Yep. There is no soul. Dead eyes.

Celeste Brown (11:25)
Dead eyes.

Erica Alshuler (11:30)
Yep. Do we think they're getting brainwashed? Do we think there's something going on here? I actually don't know what country it's out of, so I'm not making any political statements, but.

Regan (11:30)
It's like that look that they get, you know? It's like, I think they are. That's why it's China. It's China. And I think they are getting brainwashed. So that's why it's a scary show for me. It's like a horror not to make this at all about Cocomelon, but back to going, you get get feelings.

Celeste Brown (11:32)
Yeah.

I will research this and we'll talk about it next time.

Erica Alshuler (11:41)
Okay, okay.

Regan (11:55)
You feel things when you watch it. And I love it because you get, you feel things if you're an adult or if you're a kid, that's 10 or why I put it on time and time again.

Erica Alshuler (11:55)
Mm -hmm.

Celeste Brown (12:01)
Good.

Erica Alshuler (12:03)
That brings up the question I was wondering, is there another show, because Pixar became known for giving adults a movie they relate to and enjoy while also satisfying kids, what's another example you can think friend today said the Muppets. I was not a Muppets household, but they said looking back as an adult, it was dirty and funny. I'm wondering if there's anything else that hits that mark for you guys.

Celeste Brown (12:28)
Have you watched Big City Greens on Disney Plus? That's more raunchy. It's not like about learning things. It's about really just laughing. It's like a

Erica Alshuler (12:30)
Yes, so we...

Regan (12:32)
Yeah.

Erica Alshuler (12:38)
the problem with it, which is that's the perfect example, Celeste, for like our age, because the problem is your kids would only like it for the like fact that it's animated, colorful, and funny accents, but they wouldn't get it necessarily, or they'd like the the minion style accidents that happen and things like that. But yeah, you'll enjoy it when you get there, Regan. You should check it out. That's a great example.

Celeste Brown (12:49)
They think it's hilarious, yeah.

subliminal adult joke.

Regan (12:59)
Great, I just wrote it down.

Erica Alshuler (13:01)
Wait, so before this podcast was born, I legitimately wanted to just have a podcast where I said called, what are my kids watching? Because I love talking shows.

first time I was unemployed in adulthood, admittedly, Dennis would come home from work. I was on a break from work finding my next thing. And he would come home from work. And what I had done all day was the one productive thing I had done was like take something to the dry cleaner. I was like, yes. And other than that, I sat on the couch in our apartment and watched the sweet life of Zach and Cody

Celeste Brown (13:26)
Did it.

Erica Alshuler (13:32)
Wizards of Waverly Place, early Selena Gomez. Like I just watched Disney Channel on my own as an adult. It's a, not ashamed, but it's strange.

Celeste Brown (13:35)
Hello, yeah.

I do too, maybe not like a kid's cartoon, but I did go to the movies with Erica. We brought all six of our kids wedged between us on an aisle. And I was just watching Erica's face during the previews for like a Kung Fu Panda 4, whatever it is. The chick, the girl, your host Erica was jaw dropped, like knee slap.

Regan (13:38)
It's amazing.

Celeste Brown (14:05)
I took a picture of her and I can send it to you, Erica, to post on your she literally, it was as if someone was telling her the funniest thing ever that has happened. And it was the worst joke, horrible kids joke. Like it wasn't even funny at all. Sorry, no offense. And she was like, who, I honestly was like, who is she? Who is this person I'm here

Erica Alshuler (14:22)
Says you.

Regan (14:26)
I texted Erica not too long ago she's like, sorry, just got out of a movie. And I was like, did you go see Dune 2? Which is like the release, the opening weekend. She's like, no, Kung Fu Panda 4, what are you talking about?

Erica Alshuler (14:27)
But you know -

Celeste Brown (14:37)
Yeah, Oppenheimer.

run. Good for them.

Erica Alshuler (14:44)
Opening weekend, But you know what's funny? It's funny. I love that story and I'm definitely going to post the picture. What's funny is it started, certain things start as trying to parent, right? Like, let me be excited for my kids. And then that energy, not unlike what we talked about on episode one with Julia and Evan, energy is infectious fake energy actually influenced my real energy. And now, and I…

Love that stuff

Celeste Brown (15:11)
from deep within, Erica. I don't know what you're talking about. That was like an innate response.

Regan (15:11)
Love that.

Erica Alshuler (15:12)
I'm saying years prior, this is now really me, but and I think now I'll pat myself on the back for a great segue. Let's talk about bluey and what it means for parenting. And I will say this is, I'm going to present an opinion I hear a lot, but I did hear and it blew my mind. So I'm of the mindset of like, first it was guilt a little bit, like, I don't play with my kids as much.

Celeste Brown (15:19)
Yes, and I love you.

Here we go.

Regan (15:27)
Yes.

Erica Alshuler (15:39)
Then I said to my kids, you know what though? Those kids are making up all the games. I'll play them if you do the hard mental load. I just don't want you to be like, play with me and I have to carry the conversation and make up all the doll scenarios. if they're going to make up the games, I'll come. But this parent that I spoke said, I don't let my kids watch that. And I was like, what? Obviously, you know how I feel about it. She said, those parents are pushovers. I'm not going to teach them that that's like.

Regan (15:51)
Right.

Erica Alshuler (16:05)
what and disagree welcome the alternative opinion because I hadn't thought about that and now I do see moments when that I can see what they're talking but yeah that was shocking I didn't know that that was anyone's opinion that's my relationship to the parenting what about you guys?

Regan (16:20)
Yep.

I've had the feeling, I'll start by saying I recently watched Father's Day or Bandit's birthday and Bingo really wants to make the breakfast with the eggs. And this morning, my son wanted to pour his Cheerios and he spilled the Cheerios everywhere and I just got my house cleaned yesterday and I didn't have time to pick up the Cheerios and I was like, that moment, I was like, cut.

Erica Alshuler (16:31)
Yeah, omelette. Yeah.

Mm.

I'm a different mom on clean house day, by the way. I can be fun parent on other days, but the house was also cleaned yesterday.

Regan (16:46)
Yeah,

Celeste Brown (16:47)
I, Regan, I'm, Regan, I'm with you. I would be like, nope.

Regan (16:50)
Within 20, yeah. I'm like, you are not cracking those eggs. No way, no way. So yeah, in that episode, I was like, chili, just, let's wrap this up because I don't think Bingo's gonna, she's gonna, too long. Bandit's in bed, we gotta get him his breakfast. This is too much. But I, you know, I welcome all the thoughts for that. I mean, let's just start by saying there's no perfect way to parent and it's a day by day thing.

Erica Alshuler (17:05)
It's still his day and he's starving. He eats the shells.

Mm -mm.

Regan (17:17)
And some days I feel more playful and other days I feel less playful and more driving time efficiency and success. that.

Erica Alshuler (17:25)
Yes, and boundaries. We're still working on our own boundaries. So I'm working on modeling them for my children of like, yes, I will play with you, but I will play a board game. And they're like, I want it to be a make believe. Nope, I will play a board game, a card game. Here's all the games we can play.

Regan (17:31)
Mommy, it can't play. Yes.

Celeste Brown (17:40)
And PS, there's the angle. Like I don't say yes a lot. You say, okay, you make it up and I'll play it, which is amazing. A lot of times I'm just like, no, no, no, we have to leave for baseball in 10 minutes. and no, I don't want to make an omelet with you, which Wilson, my son asked Kirk to do, which he I'm going to clean up the Erica, at least you're saying yes, a version of yes to be playful.

Regan (17:40)
That's...

Celeste Brown (18:03)
and I need to find a way to get there like the

Regan (18:06)
agree. I with boundaries and, you know, taking in what's appropriate for the moment, but overall, that I want to play with my kids, which is more imaginative play, more getting on their level, more saying, yes, there is a spooky monster behind that door. Or, you know, not something scary because my son actually gets scared. Yeah, let's go with.

Erica Alshuler (18:19)
Yes.

Yeah, fairies. There are fairies. Yeah.

Regan (18:30)
something positive, my kids are still kind of young to make up the games and the rules, but a lot of it's like tactile or building or or dancing and that kind of love anyway. And it kind of brings out the inner child in it also reminds me to not take everything so think

Erica Alshuler (18:43)
You love.

Regan (18:50)
even on the days and there's there's some episodes and chili just don't have the energy to play and they're kind of yeah they're hungover it makes me laugh because there's no turning on and off being a parent so you can you can either lean

Erica Alshuler (18:56)
The hungover episode, great one. Whale watching.

Nope.

Yeah, which reminds me, I'll link to it. I have a book that I've given to people who are like pregnant with their second or third called laying down parenting or something. And it is literally when like all the games you can play with your kid while you're just laying on your back. And I'm like, this was written for me and pregnant women. So I'll link to that. agree with everything you're saying about the inspiration. It made me think are also a performer by nature, Regan.

Regan (19:24)
Yes.

Erica Alshuler (19:32)
I've always been a performer by nature. And Celeste, I think you're not giving yourself enough credit because you are, and you have admittedly, you are like putting on a show a lot, right? That doesn't mean that you are saying, yes, I'll play with you, but you're actually just playing by your natural self when you're being a parent. You are modeling and bringing them into an otherwise boring moment by being fun, and you're making it fun. So you need to give yourself a little more credit. It's not structured play. It's Celeste on the display play.

Celeste Brown (19:41)
Yeah.

You're, look, for listening, yeah, I'm like probably the most childlike of all my friends. So, which is why.

Erica Alshuler (20:05)
You do drink Dr. Pepper instead of water, which is a whole separate issue.

Celeste Brown (20:09)
Wait, what do you mean? Cue me drinking Dr. Pepper.

Erica Alshuler (20:11)
Yeah.

Celeste Brown (20:14)
something about it being initiated by the kid. They get a confidence boost when a parent says, yeah, I'll play that. And they can take away that, look at the fun I just created by initiating this. I don't say yes a lot. I say yes on my terms. And I think key is to let them be the get credit for the fun time the family just had sometimes. And not just me being like, look at me, look at

Regan (20:36)
Mm.

Erica Alshuler (20:38)
I think it's about figuring out which headspace you need to be in. Because you said that, Regan, right? Like some days off and on. me, I did some kind of digging of like, well, when I do X the night before, I'm real cranky and I don't want to play. Or if I had drinks or didn't sleep well or whatever. And so I've tried to figure out the windows in which I am and when I know they're time -boxed. So it's

I know I get to say I'm starting to cook dinner in 10 minutes. So, what do you want to play for 10 minutes? I'm yours, you know? half of what I do is I get her set up. She just wants me to like help her come up with the silly storyline. But then she actually, she'll be act sad. But if I leave, then I look in the back in the room and she's going like, you know, I'm playing with her things the way I wouldn't. And so I'll be

Celeste Brown (21:24)
Yeah. Mm -hmm.

Erica Alshuler (21:27)
help you build the magnetile house because that's my favorite part anyways, or decorate the dollhouse. And then you're like, set them up with one silly character. I got to do some interior decorating and then off we go because I already warned her I had to do dinner or something. So I try to find those fleeting moments.

Celeste Brown (21:31)
That's my show.

Regan (21:32)
Yep, me too.

Celeste Brown (21:45)
So that brings me to this point. The thing that is not a problem in the Healer House, the Blueie household is time. I feel like time isn't like, so I know there are episodes where they have a lot of things going and they can't do But the problem with our household, especially, I mean, you have younger kids, Regan, but you'll see, I mean, you have three kids in sports and activities and extracurriculars. The time is the problem. So.

Erica Alshuler (21:56)
Ooh, good point.

Mm -hmm.

Celeste Brown (22:12)
The absence of needing to worry about time brings about a whole world of bluey fun. Like that's why when it came on COVID, like, yeah, you could do the forts and you could do all these things, but now you have so much you're doing as a parent. It's time is the problem

Erica Alshuler (22:29)
is what I love about this show is it's, well, and because we're podcasting about it, it's allowing you to think about it and being like, okay, what pieces of this can I take with me? What pieces and you can really break it then on the flip side, I also do a really great job of at least in the way they can in a seven minute show trying to acknowledge that of like off the top of my head, I can think of, you know,

They're running out to a birthday party, dad has to go to work, they're hung over or whatever it is or it's bedtime and they do tackle the like, what does one do? Or the playroom's messy, daddy robot cleans it up or gosh, keep you up, it would be easier if the playroom wasn't so messy and you were tripping on things. some of those things that we don't see on the show because it'd be boring to watch them clean, at least I think they give us a framework to talk about it. So.

Celeste Brown (23:10)
the daddy robot.

Regan (23:14)
Yes.

Erica Alshuler (23:20)
I actually use like, remember how that one time Bluey did X and use it as a way to teach a lesson to my kids. And my older kids are like, mom, shut up. I know what you're doing, but he might hear it. So.

Celeste Brown (23:32)
but the Bluey time slot of seven minutes, speaking of time is so perfect. Like you said, so maybe at the amount of time of an episode, you could also play for that amount of time before or after. Go ahead.

Erica Alshuler (23:41)
Yeah!

Regan (23:43)
My kids came downstairs this morning. My husband's out of town, so I'm on day four of solo parenting, which I woke up a little So they came down and said, mom, can we watch an episode of something on And I said, no, we're gonna play. And sometimes it's just trick, whether I subconsciously learned it from Bluey or is when I'm sort of dragging a little bit and it's

Celeste Brown (23:50)
Woo! Woo!

Look at you.

Erica Alshuler (23:59)
Way to pull it out.

Regan (24:09)
time. I'll put on music in my house. I just put on No matter what, it leads to some sort play, whether it's dancing or tag or jumping scooching or spinning. It does just levitate. yeah.

Erica Alshuler (24:12)
Yeah.

Celeste Brown (24:17)
Yeah.

Erica Alshuler (24:19)
Mmm.

I love that. Does your family actually butt scooch? Because I love and Bluey that you forget their dogs until every once in a while someone like scooches a butt and you're like, whoa, okay.

Regan (24:33)
yeah, we have like pads and we put them on the hardwood floor and we butt scoot, for sure. And spin. then there's like random games that come out of it. Right now, a hot game in my house is the gingerbread man, where literally Charlie, my husband, or I just chase the kids and say, I'm a gingerbread man. And then they just run around the island. And usually we play gingerbread man right before bed. So that's another time of like,

Erica Alshuler (24:39)
that's a great plan, okay.

Celeste Brown (24:40)
Look at you!

Erica Alshuler (24:55)
You

Regan (25:00)
Okay, we don't have activities. We're brushing, we've brushed our teeth. We have our PJs on. There's a little more energy we need to get out. And if we're not gonna put on the TV, we're gonna do like a quick couple laps around the kitchen, play gingerbread man. So I think it's like, you know, I mean, it's hard to say schedule your open play and you're right, it's less, my kids are a bit younger, so I don't baseball and the swimming and the da, da, da, da, da, all these practices yet, but.

Erica Alshuler (25:06)
Mmm.

like this.

Yeah.

Regan (25:26)
I also think in Bluey when I was trying to reflect, like they don't have a ton of activities, scheduled activities it seems. And it reminds me of of the olden days when we were kids and we just had like open play where you just, there's nothing to do and that's okay.

Erica Alshuler (25:32)
No. Mm -mm. Yeah.

Celeste Brown (25:35)
They're not doing sports.

Erica Alshuler (25:40)
Yes!

Exactly. Well, also – I mean, I guess that's what it is. It's just it's definitely parents over -scheduling their kids for sure. That's a thing. But it's also because, well, when one does it, then others do it and then you have to do it. But the activities – and this was probably just me being fortunate and going to a private school that offered this. didn't have to sign up for a million other extracurriculars because in fourth sports started. And you could at 3 .15 from the bell.

walk to the locker room, change clothes, and do the sport that was in that season, and then your parents would pick you up at 445, and you'd go home, and you'd have dinner, and you'd play or whatever. That was how it worked. It was not so complex. And so I just thought we'd get there. I didn't know that now I have club soccer and AYSO and art and drama, and they're all different places.

Celeste Brown (26:19)
gorgeous.

That sounds great.

Regan (26:28)
Yeah.

I know. I've started adding activities and I do think they're incredibly helpful sports, especially as the kids are getting older. But I just so much time now in the car. There's so much time in the car and going from here to when I had lots of free time with two young kids, that was also daunting. Cause you're like, I have this, that and this to do. And they're wanting to paint right now. And I'm not.

Erica Alshuler (26:39)
Yeah!

Mm -hmm.

Yes, gosh. Well, but I think that you...

Regan (26:58)
I can't get the paint out. But I cherish it now on the weekends when we just wake up and we made a fort for two hours. Like that's what we did. We just made a fort for 45 minutes and then we walked around the block. I know.

Celeste Brown (27:11)
I hate making forts. I hate forts, guys. By the way, for people listening out there, it's okay if you're not making the forts and it's okay if you're not, you know what I mean? That's the thing. It's like, I hate forts.

Erica Alshuler (27:14)
Well, you're like, I'm just making a mess, but.

Regan (27:17)
Yes.

Erica Alshuler (27:21)
Mm -hmm. Yeah. Or what I do is I make the fort, but I make the fort stay up for a very long time. We put it in a place where it has to stay up because I'm like, we're not making it just to be a mess tonight. You're going to play in this exact fort for the next week. Just kidding. But as we have the space to do that, that's fine.

Regan (27:22)
Totally, totally.

Yeah, the fort stays up for two days.

Celeste Brown (27:37)
Well, there are no forts that stay up will remove all forts no more They're hazard people.

Regan (27:40)
Yeah.

And they take all the toys out and my son is just a stasher. He takes all the toys and stashes them behind the couch and in the backpacks and he goes on trips and it's like there's little plastic pieces everywhere. I mean, it drives me

Erica Alshuler (27:52)
yeah.

whenever they set up a fort or like any sort of station or they do this game where they go, who can stay the longest? So you go potty and you pick your spot and whoever leaves their spot first And I'm like, I love this game, but it means they bring the whole house to their spot and it always involves So, or they have friends over and they're like, it's so cute. I think they get this like hosting quality from our family that likes to be social. And I love that, but like.

Celeste Brown (28:06)
god.

You heard.

Erica Alshuler (28:21)
we built a fort, let's get a snack station. And then they have like a pitcher of water in the fort and then like all the snacks and it's too funny. And then I still, I find the snacks in the couches like later, very cute. So I love Celeste that you, and this is why I brought on multiple voices. I love that we all are in different phases of life. We're in different phases of parenting. We have different stressors and triggers and things that will work and won't work for us. And the uniting factor in all of Bluey.

Celeste Brown (28:27)
Same.

Regan (28:30)
It's.

Erica Alshuler (28:47)
I think does a great job on both sides. It gives us inspiration. At the very least, it gives something that our family can watch that we all feel good about, and it's short. And on the other end of the spectrum, it helps boundaries. We're like, nope, not going to do that for sure. So also think they do a decent job of tackling some of the bigger issues, which I know might go over our kids' heads sometimes. And so that brings me to this.

Regan (29:00)
Mmm.

Celeste Brown (29:01)
Yeah.

Erica Alshuler (29:11)
recent, I guess by the time this airs, I don't know how recent it'll be, special episode. It was special. It's called The Sign. the episode before and the episode after, all three of these were released at the same time worldwide instead of us waiting to get them from Australia. special because it was long and it tackled this teaser idea. Spoilers for anyone who has not seen The Sign.

or the end of Ghost Basket, big issue it tackles is they might have to move. obviously there's other subplots going on in this is testing for longer form content and see if they can do that because they might do more seasons. Maybe they're just gonna do movies and whatnot, who knows? love that they tackled this idea.

I want to ask you guys where you land on the spectrum of the ending. So as a spoiler for the ending of the sign, the whole thing is building up to to terms with the fact that she might have to move. beautiful moments from her teacher Calypso, who is like so special. I can't even handle it. I want to be in her preschool.

Regan (30:11)
love her. Yeah.

Celeste Brown (30:11)
I love Calypso and I love her house or whatever the playhouse. Whatever. It's

Erica Alshuler (30:14)
Yes, or her daycare, whatever it is. I know with the windows and the, it's beautiful. a lot of beautiful moments leading up to this idea that Bluey just has to accept that there might be things in life that feel bad that end up being good or feel good and end up being bad and vice And then at the last minute, you know, signs up, movers pack in this beautiful montage, they say goodbye to the house and buy all this other kind of,

Regan (30:18)
Love it.

Erica Alshuler (30:39)
kismet and fate that happens. The buyer's back out at the last minute and they move back in. The dad rips out the sign and they move back in and eat pizza and everyone's cheering because mainly we don't want to leave that beautiful

every time. Ugly cry.

Celeste Brown (30:51)
When he rips that out of the ground. my God. Sorry. Go ahead. Go ahead.

Regan (30:50)
crying, bawling. And it brings out that childlike thing where it's like, don't move, don't do it. You know, I felt like Bluey

Erica Alshuler (30:58)
Yeah, don't rip this familiar.

Celeste Brown (31:00)
All

Erica Alshuler (31:01)
Well, so this is what's interesting. We all cried. We're so happy that they stay because we have this affinity for the family and the house. But from a message perspective, reacting to another podcasters reaction, always a good content. My favorite podcast, the watch, Andy Greenwald does Dattington Island Dattington Island where he talks about kid stuff. And he was kind of upset.

and his kids thought he was dead inside because he was upset that they didn't move. He's like, I thought we were learning this lesson. And at the last minute, you taught my kids that like, if something scary is going to happen, guess what? Just keep waiting at the last minute, you're going to get what you want. And that's not the lesson he wanted to teach. So I wanted to know where you land on that spectrum because I could totally see that point. But my counter to that is I think deeper lesson is that Bandit just kept saying to give my kids a better life. I think the main message was,

Regan (31:31)
Mmm.

Erica Alshuler (31:52)
Money is not a better life. This community with their family and this home and the memories is a better life and don't go somewhere just to have more money. So I think, unfortunately, Andy, I love you and I would die to talk to you, but I think he got it wrong is all I'm saying. So where do you guys land on this?

Celeste Brown (31:54)
Mm -hmm.

I mean, I have like so many different thoughts about it that it could go either way because I was thinking about it. Okay. Neither of Louis's parents like suck, you know, neither of them are like bad parents. All the neighbors are nice. They all get along. Everyone's great.

Erica Alshuler (32:24)
Juno is kind of a snot sometimes, but other than that. But you're right, there's no like weirdos. I mean, I love weirdos.

Celeste Brown (32:26)
That's true. Other than her. Yeah. Yeah. But no. And I was, and so I asked my oldest daughter, what does the dad do for work that he's getting this big promotion, She, she did.

Regan (32:33)
or two.

Good question.

Erica Alshuler (32:40)
and that he leaves for like six weeks sometimes. That's a lot. Poor guy.

Celeste Brown (32:43)
So I'm like, so for someone I don't see working that much, he's getting such a big promotion that it's requiring him to move and uproot his entire family. if you see like the dad constantly working and like you see him working hard to get this promotion, then that makes sense. And you can move forward with the move, but you're seeing something like all of a sudden removing, cause I got a promotion for what? I don't know. So that part's strange to me.

Erica Alshuler (33:02)
Good point.

Celeste Brown (33:09)
as well as I'm saying the negatives first, right? That's what I do.

Erica Alshuler (33:11)
Yeah, well, and that doesn't sell you towards the argument that they should have moved, right? Like you made a really good point. You don't have the motivation, yeah.

Celeste Brown (33:17)
No, I'm trying to find the reasons. And then chill, chilly, I like to call her chill, because she's chill, like a little chill. She's pretty chill and I'm wondering if that's why she has the name chilly. I do not have the word chill in my name, that's for sure. So.

Regan (33:21)
She's pretty chill.

Erica Alshuler (33:24)
Chill, Chillie.

She is super chill.

We named our dog Chilly and she is not chill. My Chilly, our Chilly.

Regan (33:34)
Shout out to your dog, Chili. When you told me you named your dog Chili, I was like, wow, mind blown, great name,

Celeste Brown (33:41)
Chilly, the whole episode of the sign is pretty silent for the most part, right? About what she wants, what she needs. That end tackle when Bandit rips the sign out and she tackles him the ground from the I mean, I'll cry right now talking about it. And it like what she had been holding so tight inside had been released, which means that tightness.

Erica Alshuler (33:53)
Mm.

Regan (33:57)
Mm.

Mmm.

Celeste Brown (34:06)
was being held, whether they moved or not, I don't know. Why wasn't she speaking up for herself and being an advocate for know you have to support things. Right, so those are the things. But obviously, the whole episode's amazing, and I think there are a lot of great things to learn from it. I cry like three times in 23

Erica Alshuler (34:15)
And modeling that for her kids too, yeah.

Regan (34:28)
not to cry.

Erica Alshuler (34:28)
Well, when you see the pregnant sister, Chilly's sister.

Celeste Brown (34:31)
I know that got you.

Regan (34:32)
my god. Charlie and I had let out an audible like,

Celeste Brown (34:37)
Erica was at our house when that show premiered with her family after a chilly kickoff.

Erica Alshuler (34:42)
I was gracious. after a chili cook -off, you're right. And I was gracious enough to let my kids watch it without me, which is very strange.

Celeste Brown (34:45)
Nice.

Erica's son runs out and says, like, she's pregnant. And I see Erica and her son react together. And Erica like ran in, like it was a whole thing, like, she's pregnant. And that's like a two second snippet of the show, like really when that happens. But to show how invested you are on these people and these characters. Anyway, go ahead.

Regan (35:05)
Yeah, but.

Well.

I mean, I think so great, great bringing up Chilly and Bandit in this episode, because it's so much about how how Bluey is feeling around this could. And Bingo just doesn't understand she's which is totally perfect. They they nailed You can Chilly silently struggling

Erica Alshuler (35:12)
They get you.

Celeste Brown (35:14)
I love it.

Erica Alshuler (35:22)
And the cute side shout out that Bingo doesn't understand what's going on, which is a really great representation.

Celeste Brown (35:26)
I know.

That way.

Regan (35:35)
There's point in the episode that really got me, which is when Bandit says, am I making a huge mistake? And Chili holds his hand and says, I don't know, but I'm gonna be here with you and we'll make it that was so true of how you feel in these big life decisions with a partner. when one...

partner's job or one partner's situation is changing are struggling and kind of dying inside. And you're right, Celeste, that moment where she tackles it in the end, you're like, she's let it all out. This is it. This is how she that that was a beautiful, really quick moment for me in the episode just to show their togetherness or at least

Celeste Brown (36:11)
my God.

You see what the...

Erica Alshuler (36:23)
Yeah, and -

Regan (36:23)
struggle that came through.

Erica Alshuler (36:26)
I think it's a great point because I mean, I think all these are the right questions to be asking about this children's show that we're discussing. The, so more than a children's show. I know. I just like to keep bringing back that because it's just hilarious to me, but I also don't feel an ounce of shame or this is a beautiful thing. So the, look at us. That.

Celeste Brown (36:33)
This is children's cartoon show that I'm crying over.

Regan (36:34)
which is so much more than a children's show.

No. Yeah, look at us three grown women.

Celeste Brown (36:47)
We're talking about some dog's marital life, like Jesus.

Regan (36:50)
It's like I'm invested in the pregnancies. I'm, you know, yes, we all are.

Erica Alshuler (36:51)
that.

Celeste Brown (36:54)
When they wag their tails simultaneously because they're so in love, like through the whole, I'm like, my gosh, I'm invested in this marriage, like for real.

Erica Alshuler (36:58)
Yes, and say hooray. Yeah.

Regan (37:05)
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Erica Alshuler (37:06)
That moment that you brought up, Regan, I think is a really good one she was staying silent because she wasn't sure and she wanted to be she strongly knew in her soul this was not the right move, she would have said that to him in that moment. But she generally didn't know, so making things harder for their family wouldn't have been

Celeste Brown (37:22)
Yeah.

Erica Alshuler (37:25)
You know, she's just as torn as he is. They've made the decision they made for right or wrong. You gotta make a decision at some point. I love that moment. I almost forgot about it. And I think that's a beautiful thing. And that's speaking of modeling, which I'm always looking at, right? Like that's a great moment to model.

Celeste Brown (37:37)
And that's.

Regan (37:37)
Yeah.

Celeste Brown (37:43)
it. This show isn't just about how to be a parent, how to be good with your kids, making sure it's fun, happy. marriage of the such a huge part of the show. Almost every episode, I feel like there's some sort of connection, non -verbal or whatever it is, between the husband and wife. And that's a big takeaway, because we put so much into the kids that you need to remember your spouse is there.

Erica Alshuler (37:57)
Yes.

Celeste Brown (38:06)
and to be supportive and it's about a

Regan (38:07)
Great.

Erica Alshuler (38:10)
Two of my favorite episodes are the one where the kids are drawing escape and they're talking about how they're gonna get away from, the parents are gonna get away from the kids because they're going on vacation. And then anyways, the whole thing is the kids sketching and telling a because they're getting dropped off at grandma's house. So the parents can go have a long time on a vacation. I love that modeling.

Regan (38:27)
time.

Erica Alshuler (38:30)
And then smoochy kiss when she's like, you gotta take the good with the bad. She's just trying to get a kiss and they're like, dad's disgusting. he has pee on his foot and he bluffied everywhere. think I love those moments and I love that you guys called out. That is a huge part of why it connects on a parenting level because of the parenting aspects, but the, how do you maintain your relationship and stay on the same page and.

share responsibilities and all of that.

Regan (38:54)
Right. And listen, they are not perfect. People say Bandit's actually like a bad dad. He's not a bad dad, he's just a human. He's a, not a human, he's a dog dad. With human feelings. And sometimes you don't wanna play the game with your kids or you wanna be passive aggressive and have mom do the thing or dad's turn, mom's turn. It's like we're all, we can all relate Bandit's.

Erica Alshuler (38:59)
No!

I didn't even think about that. Yeah.

Mm -hmm. Maybe you're teasing, yeah.

Regan (39:22)
flaws go ahead, Celeste. Bye.

Celeste Brown (39:23)
No, I was gonna say that episode where like he's in charge of bringing all the kids to the pool and mom's gonna meet him there. And he forgets the sunscreen, he gets the floaties. And it's all right, great job being fun dad. PS, you can't do any of the activities you wanted because you forgot to like plan and bring all the crap that you have to bring for kids.

Erica Alshuler (39:30)
Yes!

Regan (39:41)
Right. Right.

Erica Alshuler (39:41)
Well, in that episode might as well be called mental load, which we could do a whole episode on, be the parent, which I think on the spectrum of parenting, I'm pretty chill, but have account for certain things, logistics to make the fun times fun. And so that acknowledgement of the mental load was a rad episode, but it was really great.

Regan (39:45)
Yes!

Celeste Brown (39:53)
their logistics.

Regan (39:56)
Right. Right.

That was rad. That was rad.

Celeste Brown (40:02)
But Bandit getting this promotion makes him like way hotter, by the way, because I'm like, here's this, what is this? Like some deadbeat dad who's just playing at home all day? Like get a job, Bandit. Wait a minute, hold the phones. He's getting a promotion. Like, all right.

Erica Alshuler (40:12)
no.

Regan (40:19)
Ha!

Erica Alshuler (40:19)
And, and Celeste isn't, the voice actor of the dad was in some famous band. and so people in Australia know his voice cause he was like a seventies or eighties, like rock band. Like he was big sure I'm getting this wrong, but I'll look it up.

Celeste Brown (40:24)
Yeah, Australian band.

Regan (40:25)
Ooh!

Celeste Brown (40:33)
My next door neighbor is Australian.

Regan (40:33)
Love that.

Celeste Brown (40:37)
was the one telling us about the band. And he's like, it was kind of a joke when Bluey came that here's this I'm pitching like an Ozzy Osbourne type, right? That you know well. It's some sort of like character singer like that, where he was like, kind of a joke, and that he is now the dad, and he is like the father figure.

Regan (40:37)
Awesome.

Erica Alshuler (40:46)
Yeah.

Regan (41:05)
Can we all just take a moment to say as well how lovely it is to have the Australian accent in our homes? Like it's such a friendly, uppity, like I just love it and yeah, we're all better for it.

Celeste Brown (40:58)
And he was, the neighbor was telling me how it's really funny in Australia, New Zealand, with this guy. What the name is, you can look that up.

Erica Alshuler (41:04)
is the voice of parenting.

Yes!

Celeste Brown (41:15)
R &R!

Erica Alshuler (41:16)
Yes!

The phrases that we use from that, instead of I'm supposed to, which is just like a mouthful, I'm supposed to do this, I'm supposed to do youngest Bowie says, we're meant to be there at eight, mom. Yeah, we're meant to be this. You're meant to be cleaning right now, mom. And I love it so much.

Regan (41:33)
But this time, yeah, we're meant to do this.

Celeste Brown (41:34)
Hup.

Regan (41:37)
Yeah.

Celeste Brown (41:37)
Abby says almost all the time, in real life, in real

Erica Alshuler (41:41)
Yes,

it's been ages. It's been ages.

Regan (41:44)
real life. One of Junie's first, like, because she was pretty young when she started, but she'd go, Mom. She was like.

Celeste Brown (41:46)
But.

but go back to the sign episode. I'm sorry.

Erica Alshuler (41:56)
Well, no, I think the sign serves as a great, it was just a great catalyst to talk about a lot of the sub parts of Bluey. I think they did a good job encapsulating what makes Bluey special and funny and meaningful. And I think it is a good kind standalone episode in that sense, which I think is what they were trying to accomplish. do want hear from Regan a little bit, if you will.

tell us now that we've done the full rundown on Bluey, I wanna hear about Twende. whatever you can share in the world you guys came up with this idea and what it's about. everyone who eventually hears this, maybe we'll be able to point them to where they can watch it and everything else. Please give us a little scoop.

Regan (42:28)
Mmm.

Well, it kind of relates to what we were just talking about. It's like bringing a bit of Australia into your home through Bluey. This is something that's extremely localized, but has a global appeal, themes that everybody can understand. think that's so important that you can get a little slice of something into your home and it makes us all feel like part of the Twente is...

a show that Charlie, my husband and conceptualized with the help of some other players, y 'all know who you are if you're listening ever, Africa. We were was actually on a trip with his brothers first and the initial characters popped up and then Charlie and I went back and we started kind of dreaming up the world together. show's only available in Africa right now. It's on their streaming network.

or a streaming network called Showmax. And a story of a Pangolin who drives a Bota Bota motorbike taxi and he goes really slowly and he's like abundantly happy and patient and meandering and doesn't mind taking the wrong turn or just moving slowly. And it's kind of, I guess the greater concept about the journey, not just the destination. It's okay to slow down.

Erica Alshuler (43:50)
well, and that's that vibe that you were relating to with Bluey and thankful for. So spreading a little of that peace and mellow.

Regan (43:51)
But.

Yeah, yes. And huge, props to Bluey. I mean, Charlie and I, when we first got into it, we're like, what if Twente could be like this? And in essence, the idea, they're wildly different shows, completely different, the idea that parents or non -parents, aunts, uncles, friends, neighbors, can sit with kids and enjoy the show.

on the same and different level, you know, because some things are going to go over your head. But we wanted adults to enjoy this as much as kids did. And so that tackling that are easy to understand and layered with humor. And there's a lot, there's a lot going on in our it's in English with Swahili words and it's dubbed now in

Erica Alshuler (44:25)
Mm -hmm.

fun.

Regan (44:46)
11 different languages. So it's, yeah, our whole team are based in Africa, our director is South African, we've got Kenyan voice actors and musicians and South African animators and writers from across the it's very much got that local feel, but we wanted the episodes be able to make sense in everybody's home. So that was our goal.

Erica Alshuler (44:48)
Woohoo!

Celeste Brown (44:49)
Well.

Regan (45:12)
Blu -E very much inspired that and also like group watching. So I think Showmax has our show in the kids section, but also in like the family and adult section as well.

Erica Alshuler (45:17)
Mmm.

yay. that's cool. I didn't even think about that. Where else Bluey would show up if it was, you know, I know in Disney Plus ours is all the same. We don't even like really need logins because it's just, we kind of all watch the same things. is it focused mainly on Twente or are there a lot of family dynamics or is it like friendships and how would you, friendships?

Celeste Brown (45:25)
lesson.

Regan (45:41)
Friendship, so Twende and his best friend, Nuru, is a little bird that sits in his cap. And Nuru's like, really wants to go for it. She's kind of high strung. She knows the directions. She's prepared. And she tests Twende, and Twende tests her. And they love each other throughout it all. So there's a lot of sweet moments of friendship and just like buddy -buddy adventure comedy. That's what the show is. Yeah.

Erica Alshuler (46:09)
And how many episodes have you made? I know.

Celeste Brown (46:07)
nice.

Regan (46:09)
So we can't wait to share with you. We've made 13 episodes. So season one, they are 11 minute episodes. show's geared towards six through 11 of age. But my kids like them. In fact, we just did a preschool presentation at Junie's school and the five and six year olds were really enjoying it, I think.

Erica Alshuler (46:14)
Holy moly.

can tell now without having seen it, so obviously I know I'm going to love it, but to say that A, I didn't know that about the age range, which is interesting because obviously we started this podcast by saying all of our kids of all the ages still like Bluey and adults do too. But because it's all in the home, as you mentioned, they're not at work, they're not out doing all these activities in Bluey, a Yes, they're at school and they have friend dynamics sometimes, but I kind of…

love this layer now when we get Twente to layer on top of it of kind of out and about adventuring. Maybe it's like on the way to big city greens that we also love where you're you're a little more independent and you're having to navigate those friendships and see the world. And so I'm excited to get our hands on it.

Regan (47:08)
Yeah.

Celeste Brown (47:14)
Nice.

Regan (47:14)
I love Can't wait to Hopefully one day it'll be on Disney Plus. Who knows? Disney Plus plug.

Erica Alshuler (47:21)
That is obviously where it's going to be. I love

Celeste Brown (47:22)
bullet.

Erica Alshuler (47:25)
Speaking of when we get things, when do we get to taste the gin? Because I know you had an Australia launch.

Regan (47:30)
my gosh, When people ask me, what do I do? My brother said this, he goes, you're in tunes and boos. I guess the two go together. called Papa Salt. We just launched it in Australia, May of last year. So in a year's time that we can have it here.

Celeste Brown (47:31)
Give your gin.

Regan (47:49)
see, let's go. We'll have Wendy and Teenies. yes!

Erica Alshuler (47:50)
Australia. See, it all comes back together. That's why it's appropriate to talk about pop assault on the Bluey episode. Should I entitle this Toons and Booze? No, I'm kidding.

Celeste Brown (47:53)
I know, right?

Regan (47:58)
my gosh. Tunes of it!

Celeste Brown (47:58)
That's, it sounds like you're saying tunes and boobs. I'm just saying. So this gin is sponsored by Bluey.

Erica Alshuler (48:05)
Boobs, got it.

Regan (48:05)
sorry, booze. We might need to cut that out. I will say we went to Bluey's big show at the Palladium. Wait, was it the Palladium? Where was it? Pantheon?

Erica Alshuler (48:08)
no!

Celeste Brown (48:13)
You did! Tell me.

Erica Alshuler (48:14)
it was at the, where the Oscars are, the one we went

Regan (48:18)
Well, it was like the 11 a showing and cried at the opening, like one minute or less in, the big blueys, puppets come out and I'm just like spellbound. Yeah, Celeste, did you see it? It's amazing, it was amazing, it was so good. Okay, get your tickets.

Erica Alshuler (48:24)
Of course.

Yeah.

Celeste Brown (48:28)
If you're crying at Puppets, they're doing their job over at Bluey. No, I get ads every day. I can't. Get your tickets. You can cry as a parent in front of children.

Erica Alshuler (48:31)
Yes, well and -

It's back, you can still go.

The way they captured even like the little moments we talked about earlier where it's just focused on nature, they had the birds, the birds flying by. I mean, the way they brought in all the elements.

Regan (48:51)
Just.

Erica Alshuler (48:53)
Yes.

Regan (48:54)
And by the way, just having like balloons in the house, you know, blow up a quick balloon play, keep the up B I, I don't know why I don't do that. I, we had Roro's birthday and then his balloons deflated. And I was like, wait a second, keep the happy. This is what we did for hours. Yes.

Erica Alshuler (48:59)
Yes!

No, just having, we do the same thing. We do balloons for birthdays and then they last for months. And then we're like, there's not another birthday coming. They know where our bag is. And we're like, we are getting a balloon out because dog, Chili, She plays bop with us. She plays keepy upy. And she,

Celeste Brown (49:07)
Kipi -Api is my favorite takeaway from this show.

Regan (49:20)
Genius.

Erica Alshuler (49:24)
tries to bite it and bops it with her nose and is like a full other member of Kip Yuppie. It's like the cutest

yeah, and she plays Keep Yuppie.

Regan (49:29)
I just have to say, like kind of wrapping it up, but formally at all. Just thinking about love so much about it is that it's not too teachy preachy. This is the lesson. A plus B equals C. It, it, it, look at us. We've just been sitting here for an hour talking about various episodes and there's so much to gleam. There's so much to think about. It's not embarrassing.

Erica Alshuler (49:41)
No!

Celeste Brown (49:42)
It's not bubblegummy.

And it's not embarrassing either.

Regan (49:56)
These people are, these dogs are just, my gosh. And by the way, so many things happen in each episode. The handstand episode is not just about Bingo doing a handstand. It's about not getting what you want. And grandma doesn't have anything to do. And that's a thing too, at parties, when grandma wants to help and everybody says, just relax. And grandma wants something to do and she finds something to do. And it's about so many things.

Erica Alshuler (49:56)
But it wasn't like this is the episode about loss. It's like, no.

Yeah, it's deep. Yeah.

Celeste Brown (50:16)
yeah, that's so funny.

in seven minutes.

Regan (50:22)
Bingo, you don't just get to get to do a handstand in the middle of room like there's a party to be had. I love Bluey for that reason. anything, you just, it's causes awe and wonder in the adults, in the kids, in everyone, in everyone.

Erica Alshuler (50:30)
its subtlety in.

That

Celeste Brown (50:39)
The way they're able keep it way they don't make it cheesy is the part I can't wrap my head around. This show could be so cheesy or so like whitewashed, but it's fun. You walk away laughing and crying. It's like in seven minutes, it's wrapped up in a bow, like all those emotions. And like you said, like you're learning something, it's

Regan (51:00)
Can we do one shout out to Jacques, the French friend that he finds in camping, and you don't really even have to, sorry, thank you, Jean -Luc, Jean -Luc, Jean -Luc. But like the idea that you can make friends with somebody through not speaking body language of like showing somebody how to be a friend to somebody who doesn't speak your language.

Erica Alshuler (51:07)
Isn't it Jean -Luc? Is it Jean -Luc?

Celeste Brown (51:07)
Jean -Luc, Jean -Luc.

Yes!

Erica Alshuler (51:19)
Play and party language, yes.

my God, it's so beautiful. yeah, all the moments, like I was gonna do some silly trivia questions, but let's instead, I don't know if anyone have any other favorite moments?

Regan (51:28)
That's so beautiful!

John Luke!

Celeste Brown (51:36)
I want to hear it. Let's do

Erica Alshuler (51:40)
Who has bingo lost in the episode Chicken Which we watch a lot, so I know this. And I can give you multiple choice. Is it bunny, floppy, flop -o, bum -buns?

Celeste Brown (51:45)
is it the owl? Okay, yeah, sorry.

Regan (51:55)
I was gonna say floppy, but I don't know.

Celeste Brown (51:56)
I'm gonna say bun buns.

Erica Alshuler (51:58)
It is floppy. It is floppy. Ding, ding, ding, ding, ding for Regan. Chicken rat. Lay a chicken rat egg is like my favorite. my goodness. I mean, if you want to go deep, this, no one's going to get this. In bike, which I love about, I can't get it straight away. Bowie says it all the time. When.

Celeste Brown (52:01)
Rats!

Give me another one.

Regan (52:12)
boy.

Erica Alshuler (52:19)
Everyone's trying to do their things in is featured on Muffin's backpack? Good luck, guys. See, this is why we're not doing this. But remember, Muffin has to eventually lay on his back to shove his arms through. It's so

Regan (52:20)
I can't get

Celeste Brown (52:25)
Give me a multiple choice. Just kidding.

Regan (52:30)
Yes.

Celeste Brown (52:33)
hear another trivia

Erica Alshuler (52:34)
so this, I'm asking this as our final one because this episode I just recently watched in the and the Wise Old Wolfhound.

Because Bowie, our daughter, went into the hospital with a broken arm and had to stay overnight. And do you remember when Bingo's in the hospital and they get a message from dad and it's a video, a movie that Bluey made. It's the sweetest thing in the whole world with such a beautiful message. So this trivia is from that episode. So good luck. In that episode, Bumpy and the Wise Old Wolfhound, what illness does Bandit have? Because remember, they have to find someone to get purple.

Celeste Brown (52:57)
yes.

I should know this. Let's go. Let's do it. I know this.

Regan (53:02)
It's so good.

Erica Alshuler (53:12)
purple underpants from someone who has never been sick. And he goes, I have been sick. I had.

Celeste Brown (53:13)
Yes. Right.

Erica Alshuler (53:18)
I don't want to give you the choices, you don't know it off the top of your head. The jokes are...

Celeste Brown (53:20)
I almost said it. I almost said an X -rated joke that wasn't the answer. Okay, Tommy.

Regan (53:24)
I was gonna say it like a chest cold, a cold, but no, I can't remember.

Erica Alshuler (53:27)
okay. The first option is, is it sore paws, chicken pox, silly billiness or bum worms?

Celeste Brown (53:36)
Bum worms.

Erica Alshuler (53:37)
Regan, final answer.

Regan (53:37)
Chickenpox? Chickenpox. Yeah, it has to be bumworms. Less, less. my gosh.

Celeste Brown (53:37)
Duh. Submit.

Erica Alshuler (53:39)
I have bum worms. It's definitely bum worms is how he says it. It's so great. Yep. Well done, you guys.

Celeste Brown (53:42)
Celeste, Celeste, yes!

She's the best.

Erica Alshuler (53:50)
I was going to say that this quiz was trifical, which is also a favorite word of mine.

I meant to say tricky, but I said difficult and trifical. It's like, what's the one in Mean Girls? Trifical and gruel. I was trying to say great and I said cool instead.

Regan (54:08)
BRUH

the way, we're such cool

Erica Alshuler (54:11)
not regular moms, we're cool moms.

Celeste Brown (54:11)
But I, but I, but I am the, right kids?

Regan (54:12)
We're not regular moms, we're cool moms. Yeah.

Erica Alshuler (54:15)
And we actually are cool because we're talking about Bluey on a podcast, guys. Does it get cooler than this?

Celeste Brown (54:18)
Hey you guys, kids were so excited this was she thinks, my kids think I'm like a superhero now. So thank you.

Regan (54:18)
Yeah, yeah.

Erica Alshuler (54:26)
Yes. You know what I sometimes think?

Regan (54:26)
Well, guess what, Celeste, you You are.

Celeste Brown (54:29)
Thank you. I answered one question. Yes, thank you. Yes, we're in.

Erica Alshuler (54:30)
Super Celeste. Well, what's funny is I always thought, I think this all the time because she posted an Instagram, Kristen Bell, of her like singing a Frozen song at bedtime. And already I loved Kristen Bell, but I'm like, can you imagine if your mom was Anna? Like, I don't think I could understand that all the time. Exploding. Now, meanwhile, when you're older and Junie sees Barbie come over to your house, Regan, like she's gonna freak out.

Celeste Brown (54:46)
I think it all the time. You have no idea.

Regan (54:49)
My head's exploding. Yeah.

Erica Alshuler (54:58)
Like she's gonna appreciate that someday when you're going to an event with real life Barbie, That's gonna be a big deal.

Regan (55:00)
She's asking me to ask Margo for a Barbie Dream House. So I'm like, I don't think she just, I don't know if she understands that she just doesn't have a room full of Barbie Dream Houses or what, but.

Erica Alshuler (55:09)
I love that that's what she's going for. Can you get me a dream?

Yeah, well even hers got taken away by Ken, come on!

tax dollars.

Celeste Brown (55:21)
And Margot is Australian too, right? So that's why you have Australian. making sense, guys.

Regan (55:24)
Cheers.

Celeste Brown (55:28)
I'm going to wrap this up with the band name that Bandit was in or isn't. The name's Custard is the band.

Erica Alshuler (55:35)
I love all of this. I love you guys. This was so fun.

Celeste Brown (55:37)
Love

Regan (55:37)
Love you. my gosh, I could talk about Bluey forever. So this was so fun. I know, I'm sad it's over. Does it need to be over?

Erica Alshuler (55:41)
really could too. I need to do a better job these episodes when I'm editing, we always come up with good ideas for other episodes. I need to just like book it right after this, right? Like I am, yes, mental load. And also I genuinely, genuinely, genuinely am so curious about like the underbelly of the distribution of alcohol. This is maybe a surprise, but I want Charlie. I

Regan (55:53)
yeah, let's do mental load, like the mom load. We gotta talk about that.

Celeste Brown (56:06)
yeah, you want me to go down in flames?

Regan (56:07)
No, get Charlie.

Erica Alshuler (56:09)
Yeah, I want to get Charlie to talk about this because