We Shut Down the Guild — Here’s Why

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Are you interested in learning about new changes for Maximum Lawyer? In this episode of the Maximum Lawyer Podcast, Tyson and Becca discuss the transformation of their legal entrepreneur community, rebranding from "The Guild" to "The Association by Maximum Lawyer". They highlight improved organization, distraction-free engagement, and enhanced member profiles. 

Tyson and Becca discuss the reasons behind rebranding the Guild. The change has come from the changing needs of participants, the online space and how people are interacting and contributing in person. One major change, which is part of the change in name, is implementing quarterly coaches for members. This will allow for members to learn more from experts and develop stronger connections with other lawyers in the space.

One great aspect of this change is the use of Circle, which is an engaging all in one platform for a community of people to share and connect. For The Association, users can DM each other and create in depth profiles. You are able to input as much information about yourself and others can see who you are and what you do. If you are a subject matter expert and people want to learn more, they can reach out through the platform.

Listen in to learn more!

• 3:36 Rebranding The Guild 
• 6:37 Quarterly Rotating Coaches 
• 14:17 Circle’s Topic Rooms 
• 18:48 Member Profiles & Networking 
• 23:56 Crowdsourcing From Experts
  
  

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Tyson Mutrux 00:00:01 So Becky and I made some big changes. We made some pretty tough calls and we're going to talk about it. So, Becca, how are you doing?

Becca Eberhart 00:00:09 Good. How are you?

Tyson Mutrux 00:00:11 All right. a little a little apprehensive about how this is going to go when it comes to the recording of it. You and I were talking about how this is. Yeah, like, we may have to edit this a little bit to make sure that we get everything right, but, yeah, I it's one of those things where, like, I'm super excited about the changes, but it's a little it's a little nervous. I'm a little nervous about it too.

Becca Eberhart 00:00:34 Yeah. I'm mostly excited. I'm excited to share everything that we changed as of January 1st and just share it with everybody.

Tyson Mutrux 00:00:41 Yeah, well, I texted you the other day, and, it was funny. We were somehow. I can be a little sarcastic. And you weren't. You weren't sure about the text message I sent you today? If it was sarcastic and I was completely genuine.

Tyson Mutrux 00:00:53 Yeah. The text I sent you about how excited I was about circle I. Yeah. Did you did you think that was sarcasm or that was legit.

Becca Eberhart 00:01:02 That one had context. So I felt like I believed that you were excited about that. But I was happy because I didn't know, you know, how you would exactly feel about it. And since you were actually excited, that was like next level.

Tyson Mutrux 00:01:15 So yeah, I for the people who don't know, I actually don't get super excited about things. I just I don't. But this one, like I am like, so let's just kind of jump into it. So we've had the guild. So let's kind of go let's talk a little bit about the guild because we started it in 2020. Correct. And you were so you were you were not quite with us right at the time.

Becca Eberhart 00:01:37 I, I was when we decided to actually go live, I was part time, like part time virtual assistant. And then it was around the time that we were launching when you had asked me to go full time.

Becca Eberhart 00:01:51 So that got everything kind of lined up right there.

Tyson Mutrux 00:01:54 So were you with us with the beta Group?

Becca Eberhart 00:01:56 No, I was not.

Tyson Mutrux 00:01:57 Okay, so beta group. So whenever I think about the guild, I think about the beta group, and I don't know if we even called it the Guild of Time.

Becca Eberhart 00:02:03 No, I, I mean, when I came in, you're like, well, we had this, we have this beta group.

Tyson Mutrux 00:02:08 Yeah. So, so the guild. So the actual launch of the guild was after then. So, yeah, we had this beta group. What was it? I think we, you and I were talking about this. I think it was the conclusion we came was it was 14 people that we started with.

Becca Eberhart 00:02:20 I think so, yeah.

Tyson Mutrux 00:02:22 Yeah. And then so we, we created this group of people or we had this group of people where we just we did hot seats every single week. And it was really interesting 14 weeks because I think we did one a week.

Tyson Mutrux 00:02:35 really interesting. And then we decided at the time, you know, 2020 was when we launched the Guild.

Becca Eberhart 00:02:40 March of 2020, right before everything kind of hit the fan.

Tyson Mutrux 00:02:44 Yeah, yeah. It was that was scary. That was one of the things we were like, is anyone going to want to do this? And I feel like every time we've done something with a maximum lawyer, I'm always like, are people going to want to do this? Is this something people are going to want? Yeah. And because we usually will do. We usually do follow what people want and we don't. It's not like we make these massive changes because it's something people. It's it's like, oh, we're doing this because we want it. It's usually because it's something people want.

Becca Eberhart 00:03:11 Yes.

Tyson Mutrux 00:03:12 And so yeah, that was something that people wanted at the time. And I think needs have changed over the last five years or six years I guess.

Becca Eberhart 00:03:22 So much have changed. People's needs have changed. I mean, the online space has changed.

Becca Eberhart 00:03:29 Like contributing and participating in things in person or online have changed. Pretty much everything has.

Tyson Mutrux 00:03:36 Yeah. So can we talk about the title? Can we talk about the name? Because I think people are going to want to know about the name. Right. Yeah. So we're changing. The guild is no moss. It's no more. Correct. We have closed down the Facebook group for the guild. Right. The big group is still there. So that's going to that's going to remain. There will be will still be active somewhat in that we'll be mostly Active in the new group, which I'll let you name it. I'll let you tell people what the name is.

Becca Eberhart 00:04:04 So the guild is now the association by maximum lawyer. That's which.

Tyson Mutrux 00:04:09 Yeah, I love it. I think it's great. It's going to it better reflects what we're wanting to do with Maximum Lawyer. It's a this is a I was talking to Jeremy Danielson just, I think two days ago, and I just told it's going to it's better reflects what our, our long term mission is.

Tyson Mutrux 00:04:27 We have a very I'd say we have a very, audacious goal for what the what maximum lawyer is going to be. Right. And I think it better reflects that.

Becca Eberhart 00:04:40 I completely agree.

Tyson Mutrux 00:04:42 Yeah. Will you talk to before we get, like, the changes? What, like we tell people like what's staying the same.

Becca Eberhart 00:04:47 Yeah, absolutely. So we had a few things from the guild that we didn't want to change at all. And that's the that our weekly events are staying now. They are changing what they are, but we're still having a weekly live event. we're still keeping that community access online. But like you said, we're going from our Facebook group to our platform is hosted on Circle Now, which is just a different platform, more similar to like KGB and other things like that.

Tyson Mutrux 00:05:18 It's so much better though.

Becca Eberhart 00:05:19 So, so much better. Yeah, I spent a lot of time looking into like different softwares and platforms and circle one out by a landslide. So whenever I'm in there, I am also just very excited.

Becca Eberhart 00:05:35 I'm like, the headspace that you're in when you're in circle is just business. It's just maximum layer, which is a completely different experience than when you have to log into your Facebook, see all your friends, all your groups, all your pages, all the sponsored ads, all the Facebook marketplace things for sale. And then you're trying to be in what was the guild? It's just a completely different experience. So and then you still get exclusive member discounts to all maximum lawyer in person events. And then I think that the best no change that we have also is that there's absolutely no price change. So we've added a bunch of different things in we want to offer bigger value, but without the bigger price tag.

Tyson Mutrux 00:06:21 Yeah, that's to me like so I guess we can kind of get to some of the changes, like, like one of the most exciting things that we're doing because we're keeping the conference. So if anybody is worried about that, the conference is staying. We're still doing masterminds. We're still having workshops, we're still doing all that.

Tyson Mutrux 00:06:37 That stuff's not changing. but we're we're adding coaches. So we have new, new coaches every single quarter. which is super excited, exciting. I think it's just absolutely I think that part and that was a that was an idea you brought in. That was a I, I'd say the majority of these changes. You brought it you you. Some really great changes and that part is super exciting to me.

Becca Eberhart 00:07:00 Okay, so I think we should add two. So I'm in a mastermind for me running maximum layer right now, which is transparently where a lot of these ideas come in. But I think that should speak to like what being in a membership or a group or a mastermind can do for you? Because truthfully, I think that if I hadn't been in this membership for most of 2025, that I wouldn't have seen behind the scenes into a lot of different businesses that are other people are running, which is where I'm getting a lot of these different ideas on, you know, I hear something or I see something and I'm like, oh, that's not for our people.

Becca Eberhart 00:07:39 And then I see something else and I'm like, they need this and we're going to give it to them. yeah. With with the coaches too. You had already said that they're going to change quarterly. And so our coaches are our niche specific. So when we bring a coach in it's because they have their one thing that they're great at and that they're going to be. If you're in the association, they're going to be your personal coach coach essentially. And so in Q1 right now. So if you join the association right now, our coaches are Max and Martin from Swans. So they're going to help you with anything related to AI and automations that you could possibly want. We have Jeff Hampton who is the YouTube expert. So if you are interested in growing your YouTube channel in 2026 for your law firm, he's your guy. And then we also have Molly Kramer, who is the billing coach. So three very different topics, very different coaches depending on what you're working on in your firm. And then the goal is throughout the year four times we're going to switch up those coaches and give people a different area of their firm where they can have an expert access to an expert that they can ask for, you know, questions, things like that, that they're working on.

Becca Eberhart 00:08:57 it's cool because within a couple of days you can get a response from a coach. You don't have to pay them any extra. You don't have to hire them. No contract, no nothing. It's just you're in and you have access to them.

Tyson Mutrux 00:09:09 Yeah. And I also I think something people might wonder is like, oh, well, you know, is this just one of those situations where it's like a vendor relationship where you're getting paid to bring? No, we made it very clear that's not what we're doing. Not at all.

Becca Eberhart 00:09:21 And and we can be super transparent. So we actually pay our coaches to be in the association because we want the intent to be what our intent is. And that genuinely is to teach you so that you can actually take action in your firm. So they are really there to be your coaches. And I think the only thing to clarify is that they're there to teach you and give you the information. Obviously, all of these coaches run their own businesses and they probably have products or services or done for you services at the point where you want to work with them.

Becca Eberhart 00:09:54 Feel free to make that connection, but they are there to teach you first. And then if it's something you're interested in, that's that can be on you to to make that connection because that's also a possibility.

Tyson Mutrux 00:10:05 I think that's. Yeah. And that the transparency thing too, I you've what I love about you is that you're always like, we need to be absolutely transparent. We need to be there's no faking this. Like, because, because we've had this conversation before, there's like, there's people who do like YouTube videos where they've clearly just ripped off what someone else has done. And that drives you crazy. Which is it? And I agree with you, I think. And so like the the whole thing about being transparent about this, I think it's, I think that that's beautiful. I think that's I'm glad that we're doing this, this this episode two just to kind of talk about so we're fully transparent about what we're wanting to do here because like the whole idea with the association is like one we, we want to make sure we are providing way more value than what we're charging.

Tyson Mutrux 00:10:55 Right? That is. That is our number. It's always been our number one concern. The. And I'll be I mean more transparency. There's been some times where I felt like we weren't meeting that. And it really drove both of us crazy where we weren't. We wanted to make sure that we were adding. I mean, I'm talking I'm not talking about you're getting what you paid for. I'm talking about we want to offer way more than what you're paying for. That's what we want. That's what we want to deliver. It's not always easy to do that. And so that's we've struggled with trying to figure that out. I think that we I think we figured it out. I think we've figured out a really good way of delivering on that. But it fits into I think there's a lot of there's a lot of groups, a lot of lawyer groups. And I think a lot of I've you and I, I've taken away different approach than many. I think where like I don't view any of those as competitors.

Tyson Mutrux 00:11:47 Right. We can the way the association is positioning itself so that we all coexist, we all work with each other. We can all build each other up. There is zero desire for for us to outcompete others because I just don't view it that way. We want this to be sort of this umbrella where we're all under this big tent together and we're all growing together, and that's the whole idea. At least that's what our mission is. Our mission is to is that people are being helped out when it comes to running their law firms, legal entrepreneurs. The term that you like to use. Correct. I struggle trying to adopt that term, but it's it is the right term, though is helping legal entrepreneurs. That's what we want to do. And and part of doing that is, is is working together with all these other groups. I mean, that's the whole idea of the whole thing.

Becca Eberhart 00:12:33 No, I completely agree. That's exactly what I want. If it's something else that's also going to help someone better their firm, make it work better for their lives, make it more profitable, make it less stressful, any of those things, that's why we're here.

Becca Eberhart 00:12:46 And then if there's other resources that can help them as well, then obviously we want them to use those too.

Tyson Mutrux 00:12:51 Yeah. Can we talk a little bit? I think I don't know if we went in enough about why we were going with circle. So to me, the biggest benefit is because we we, like you said, we looked at a lot of different platforms. Facebook you can't one I it's always driven me not that you even found me options so I actually can't see my feed whenever I get onto Facebook because.

Becca Eberhart 00:13:12 I feed off as well.

Tyson Mutrux 00:13:14 Yeah, because I get so distracted going in there like that was one option. But like the to me it's the organization of things, like finding things. and which leads me to KGB. So we have KGB, which we've used for years, and it's way overpriced for what it delivers on when it comes to organization. I would sit I've sat in masterminds where people had said, hey, I heard there's a training on X, can you not the platform.

Tyson Mutrux 00:13:39 But like just, you know, X, you know, X for profit. Yes. Exactly. Yeah. So I would go and I would, I would sit in the mastermind right in front of them. I'll find it for you I would search I couldn't find the damn thing. Right. It would drive me crazy. That's not a problem with circle. Circle. It's all organized very neatly and you can find things very, very easily. And that's the whole point of it. And that's what I love about circle. And that's why we went with a platform like circle. So you can you can organize things a lot easier and find things and you can commute, you can communicate, you can chat with people, you can do a lot of different things. But it's the organization to me. That's my that's my favorite part about all of it.

Becca Eberhart 00:14:17 It is. So I evaluated KGB also has a community feature that doesn't even come close to circles. I actually wanted KGB to be better. When I went into the research aspect of this, I wanted it to be better because it would have just been an add on to our plan, right? And then everything would have been in KGB because right now the resources are in KGB.

Becca Eberhart 00:14:40 and so that would have been easier. But the results were that it wasn't a better community, in fact, KGB, it was a single feed, just like Facebook is. So you have one single feed. People are posting. Let's just say you remember someone said something last week and you want to contribute to that now. And it's a week later. You pretty you can search some keywords. It might work, it might not. Or you scroll and you scroll and you scroll and you try to find that the difference is in circle we have spaces or rooms is what they call them. So we've separated out our rooms into different topics. let me actually pull them up so I can so we have people in processes intake and conversion, billing, AI and automations, social media, finance and tax, SEO and ads, health and mindset. So the nice thing is, is that you can pick the topic that you're working on, and you can go in there to post and ask questions. You can go in there to read what other people are working on and what they've been saying.

Becca Eberhart 00:15:42 And then during different quarters, one of three of those rooms will have a coach inside the room so you can go into there. And then one thing I do just want to say to you about switching from Facebook into circle is that we can say and teach and do whatever we want in there without Facebook moderating us. So here's one thing. I've wanted to say this for so long because since March of 2020, we have gotten multiple dings in our Facebook group saying that warnings, saying that if this is set again by us or a member, so we can't even control if it's set in there, which is part of the reason that we turned on post approval in the big group. So on Facebook. So this is very common in entrepreneurship in general. This is a very popular book. You and Jim have talked about this on the podcast so many times, and that is burn the boats. If you say or write the work words burn the boats on Facebook. They want to close down your Facebook group and that is just too risky.

Becca Eberhart 00:16:46 So while we're talking about it in relation to building a business, Facebook sees it another way. And so now on circle, there's no competing agendas and people can just speak and work on their businesses.

Tyson Mutrux 00:17:00 Yeah. And it's because we I don't think to my knowledge, we've never been dinged for anything legitimate. It's never been it's been something in that context where we're like, what the hell? There's no appeal process, no nothing. It's just you've been deemed, now don't do it again. It is. And it's such a weird it's such a really weird thing. And as someone that's been in Facebook jail for my, my bourbon group, I it's it's very it's very detrimental. It is. Yes. so but it I think it's really funny. We have if you're wondering about how, how did we come up with the different, what do they call channels or what.

Multiple Speakers 00:17:39 So their rooms, spaces, their different rooms, spaces or rooms. Yep.

Tyson Mutrux 00:17:42 Yeah. And you, you made it very.

Tyson Mutrux 00:17:45 Your criteria is very strict for how many we could have and all that. And so because if it were up to me, I'd have like 40 and it wouldn't be any better than Facebook. You were, you were. You came up with a very good list. So we tried to to curate a list of, of the most relevant topics. So that's, that's why we came up. That's how we came up with those. We did. We combined some but it the ones that were combined they're related to each other. So that's kind of how we how we came up with that.

Becca Eberhart 00:18:16 Yeah a couple of things. So one, there is actually still one room that is just like a general conversation room. And that room actually acts like a feed. So if someone wanted to pop in, I don't know, a personal win or if they saw something that doesn't fit specifically into a room, but they want to share it with other people. There is actually one room that acts like, almost just like you're talking to people back and forth in a feed, but all of the other rooms act as their topics specifically.

Becca Eberhart 00:18:45 So I think that that's a really good feature.

Tyson Mutrux 00:18:48 You know, something else I was kind of like in my notes, and I was something that we haven't talked about is that I really like. And I didn't think it was going to be a thing that I would like and tell, and I didn't even know if people would use it. But as new as people were transitioning from the Guild over into circle, I was, I would click and I would read their profile in their profiles. It was people were actually filling out completely. I was thinking of Brian Whitman's Brian and put a bunch in, and I was just like, I was like, I really enjoyed reading people's profiles and getting to know more about them. I thought it was really interesting.

Becca Eberhart 00:19:19 The profiles are the best, and they're completely different than the fact that, yes, people were on Facebook and if they wanted, you could have clicked someone's name and gone to that. But that's not a professional profile. That's not a profile that helps you learn about them in the way that you want to learn about them.

Becca Eberhart 00:19:35 So when we were in the Facebook group, we technically had a spreadsheet that was supposed to be the directory, and that was supposed to help people understand what city, what state, and what practice areas. That way you could find people near you, or if you had a referral, you could find that the spreadsheet will be eliminated now because every member will have their own profile and it's great. It's going to tell you all those things and more. There's also a spot where people can put, you know, say your law firm owner, but, Tiffany Weber, for example, her YouTube channel is amazing. So there's a spot where it says, like, your area of expertise. And if she wanted, she could put that in there. And then when members look her up on there, she would pop up and maybe they could DM her questions. That's another cool thing about circle is there is DMing and there as well, but it's not mixed up within all the other DMs again. I know people love to DM me on Facebook.

Becca Eberhart 00:20:32 It is a little hard to keep track of because it's mixed up with like my Facebook Marketplace messages and my grandma's messages and all of these things that happen in Facebook. So I think the DMing is going to be much more beneficial between members when they're just in circle talking to each other rather than in Facebook.

Tyson Mutrux 00:20:51 So something I've not thought about that part of it. If you have ever sent me a Facebook message, most likely it took me months or weeks to respond to it because I am terrified of going into my messages in messenger and getting distracted for hours. That is I it is. It's like my email. Like it's like I have to like. That's why I've got an extension to block my emails when I go into it. So I'm not distracted with this. I can go in and I'm go. I go into circle on a regular basis, and if I have a direct message, I can respond to it right away. And I've zero risk of seeing a bunch of stuff from Facebook that I don't feel like that.

Tyson Mutrux 00:21:31 You know, some person that I grew up with 20 years ago that wants to chit chat and catch up. I don't have to worry about that. It's all about business. And that's I was at Disney World and I was actually, you know, writing articles on circle because I was just I was enjoying it and I didn't there was no risk because I was I wasn't going to get distracted by other things. And so I really enjoy that part of it.

Multiple Speakers 00:21:52 I do too.

Becca Eberhart 00:21:53 It's a completely different experience and I love it.

Tyson Mutrux 00:21:56 Yeah. All right. What have we what have we missed? Did we miss anything when it comes to that I don't I don't know if we have. I've got through my outline when it comes to everything. Anything else we need to to touch on.

Becca Eberhart 00:22:08 Yeah. Let me go through my list. We'll have share. I'll just say this now, Sharon's going to cut this out of both the audio and the video because we're going to kind of restart with a topic. we did what's not changing? What's changing? oh, we did member profiles.

Tyson Mutrux 00:22:24 I mean, are we going to do, like, do people still get two extra people that we haven't talked about.

Multiple Speakers 00:22:33 That.

Becca Eberhart 00:22:33 We haven't. So I don't think we should do it on the podcast.

Multiple Speakers 00:22:36 Okay.

Becca Eberhart 00:22:37 Because I'm not exactly sure about that. we talked about the experts. I think that we should, I think the only four things that I had left was to talk about, the weekly events, what they are and the benefits of them and things like that, because those those changed from what they were.

Tyson Mutrux 00:22:56 Yeah. Do you want to go through those?

Becca Eberhart 00:22:57 Yeah, absolutely.

Tyson Mutrux 00:23:00 So I would start with something like the only last thing we should cover is blank.

Becca Eberhart 00:23:05 Yep. Okay. All right. So the last thing I think we should cover are our weekly events. So those are changing from what they were previously. And we changed those to benefit the members more. We think what they're going to get a lot more out of these. And so what they're going to be is they're on a four week rotation and then they just keep changing.

Becca Eberhart 00:23:25 So before we did something like the first Monday or sorry, the first Tuesday the second Tuesday. Now we're just on a four week rotation and they're going to run through like that. So every other week is going to be coaching with you. And that's live Q&A open office hours. People just come in during that time and they can bring any questions. And you guys will work through them almost like a mini hotseat. You bring in your thing and you guys are just going to work through it in real time. You'll come up with action steps. They can leave and actually act on it right after the call.

Tyson Mutrux 00:23:56 And what can I touch on that really quick? Of course I will touch on things or I will I will answer questions about things and I will get into things if I feel like I've got expertise on it. Right. But I one of the things that I it's really nice whenever we get questions in advance, I'll actually take them to people that I believe are experts to get answers on them.

Tyson Mutrux 00:24:14 I'm a firm believer, not trying to give advice on something I have zero expertise in. Yes. And so, there I think there are too many. I had this we had that, I had that great episode this morning that I recorded as Tanya about, and I was talking to him about how many there are too many people out there that are expert on everything, right? And I think that's got to change. And so I want to make sure I'm practicing what I preach. So, I don't want to I don't want people to think, hey, I'm, I have the answers to everything I don't, but I will, I will get them. That's the point of the association is is getting the answers. It's, you know, crowdsourcing the answers from experts, from from actual experts. So I just want to make that part clear. I think it's really, really important that people if anyone tells you they're an expert on everything, that means they're probably not an expert on anything. So just my my $0.02.

Becca Eberhart 00:25:05 I agree. So like you said, crowdsourcing and also making connections too is another huge benefit of the association both through us, you know, referring to who we know and who we think can help. But then also other members are also going to know. So that's why you also want to go into circle and ask the questions. And other people can send you to or who, what worked for them. And so then that leads us to kind of the same thing. we can also depending on who is a coach during that quarter, if you're like, you know, who would be really great? Pop this question into the AI and automation room, because Max and Martin are going to be able to help you with this. That's another thing that we can do. And another one of our weekly events, live events is an expert training with Q&A. So each month, essentially one of the quarterly coaches will do a short training and then leave plenty of time for Q&A. And the Q&A can be related to the training that they did.

Becca Eberhart 00:26:06 Or you can bring in your top topic specific questions to them during their call. So that's a new one. That's a new event that we have going on.

Tyson Mutrux 00:26:15 Very exciting. I think that's amazing. I think that's awesome. I really I'm really looking forward to those.

Becca Eberhart 00:26:19 Yeah, that's going to add a lot. and then the last change is that, one of the weekly events is going to be a member breakout. So the point of this is to make better connections with the other members. I think growing your network is huge and super beneficial to running a law firm. I think that not only do you learn a lot more, not only does it expand your network, but it can make it feel less lonely, which I feel like people might not admit a lot, but I think it's a big benefit. and it will be prompted to. Though. So you come into as a big group and then what we do is we'll have a business prompt. So we'll say you're going to talk about this topic for say, a minute, and then you're going to get feedback from your group for five minutes, just depending on how many people show up.

Becca Eberhart 00:27:04 Because we put you into small group breakouts, probably 3 or 4 different people that you can work with during that call.

Tyson Mutrux 00:27:11 I think that's awesome. I think that part's really fun to I think there's so many little things like this that we're adding that I just I know it gets me giddy. It makes me excited. That's that's twice I've used that word in two days. I think I've hit my max for the year.

Becca Eberhart 00:27:25 I, I think it is all very I think we're just very excited for the changes that we actually think are going to, like, really make a difference. And we're just getting started with them. So it's going to be good.

Tyson Mutrux 00:27:37 Big plans. We have big plans. so yeah. and we just I guess I'm not going to get into the Max Lacon tickets because we don't know when those are going to go back and sale. But less recently.

Becca Eberhart 00:27:52 So Sharon, we're going to cut this from video and audio. I'm going to have because you were talking I'm going to have you do this.

Becca Eberhart 00:27:57 You should actually say something like, you know, previously we had mentioned that members get discounts to all events and you should say, we do have, our next two mastermind scheduled ones at the end of February, ones in June in Chicago. And you can head to Max Lau events.com to check those out. You should just do it.

Tyson Mutrux 00:28:18 And it's not it's not it's it's not in Scottsdale. Right. It's in.

Becca Eberhart 00:28:23 Phoenix.

Tyson Mutrux 00:28:24 Yeah. Got it. Okay. Yeah. We have we have lots of big changes coming. Really exciting changes. I think it's going to be amazing. We do our we have our next two, association events. it used to say that the new association events scheduled into February and then June, you said for Chicago. So Chicago is going to be in June, and then we're going to have Phoenix is going to be at the end of February. So super excited about that. Stay tuned for, whenever we rerelease, we release more tickets for Max Lau can go to Max Lau.

Tyson Mutrux 00:28:59 So Max Lau Events comm for your tickets to the association events, and then also keep an eye on that for and also post from us about tickets to Max Logan. So that's that's going to be coming out. You got to keep your ear out for that because we're only releasing those in phases. So go go to max events.com.

Becca Eberhart 00:29:18 Yeah.

Tyson Mutrux 00:29:19 I guess what I'll just I want to do this to, I want to remind everyone about Becky's list. So, it does somewhat fit into this overall model that we're building for the association. And so Becky's Co, if you've not gone on there to leave reviews for vendors or to if you want to request a vendor, you can do that as well. But that's a big part of this too. So we're this is the whole Rising Tides thing where we want to make sure we're looking out for each other when it comes to vendors. So make sure you're going to make his list at Ko, but, Becca, I will give you the final word. Anything else you got?

Becca Eberhart 00:29:52 No, I'm just really excited.

Becca Eberhart 00:29:54 if you guys want to check out the association, try it out. it's just month to month as well, so you can you can come into the membership for a month. See what it's really like. See if it's your style. if you actually get some use out of it. But you could go to maximum. Com and then join the association and give it a shot. I'm so excited. I'm excited for the members that are already in. They're already using it. And so hopefully we'll see you in there.

Tyson Mutrux 00:30:21 Yeah. I said I give you the final word. I will say this. We've created something that, that that I would that I would enjoy, that I would join myself. And so I think that that's a big part of this is we want to make sure that we created something that we thought other people would want to join as well. So, I'm excited about it. So I'm hoping you're you'll be excited about it too. But, so I stole the last word. But thanks, Becca.

Multiple Speakers 00:30:45 Appreciate it. Thank you.