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Damn.
Anyway, I loaded the wrong one.
Shit.
There we are.
That cool graphic.
Here we are.
It's got cool music,
but I loaded the wrong one in.
Dude, I'm going to give you some flowers.
So here we are, man.
Clydesdale after dark.
It's been way too freaking long.
Way too long.
The boys are back in town.
I hope that was over the intro.
the appropriate song since
charlie's here too I gotta
use that like no uh no
royalty music so youtube
doesn't ding me uh I'll
tell you the secret there's
a god bless ryan schultz
and also r.i.p ramwad uh he
showed me a thing on
youtube you'd have to rip
it but I think they changed
the beats per minute yay
much so none of the royalty
free things go off
Yeah,
I found a really good site that I pay
a subscription to.
Of course.
It's great music.
Which one is it?
Is it Artlist or Epidemic Sound?
Artlist.
Artlist, yeah.
Yeah, yeah.
You've been in that media room, baby.
You've heard them.
That's where they get it.
And by they, I mean everybody.
Yeah.
Tyler, where you at?
You got a sexy accent wall behind you?
I know that ain't your office.
Oh, yeah.
That's your home office or
your office office?
home office oh okay you
didn't do that your lady
did that oh yeah that's
right uh hey before we get
into this dude I i pop into
the chat and I listen to
all the things y'all are
doing and I reminisced a
whole bunch last week we
were going back and forth
about like getting back on
stuff dude the progression
of first like quarter of
scotty doing these things and like
to now, even with the graphic,
just watching the graphic roll in,
I hope you walk real slow
and realize the leaps and bounds, dog,
and the authority you are
in the space and all the things.
I love it.
And being able to be as
close as I have been and
you and I have stayed,
it's very cool to watch, man.
So I love it, Bubba.
You're doing a great job.
It's been a crazy week, you know,
when your shit gets clipped
and put out on, like, the big dogs page.
That's it.
And your shit blows up all week.
It's been crazy.
You're a big dog, bud.
Look, you're in the room for a reason.
Don't think you're a little
dog in the room.
You're one of the big dogs.
Yeah, I might be like a lab, but, like,
that dude's like Great Dane.
That's America's dog, Scott, okay?
Labs and golden retrievers.
There you go.
Well, before we get into it too much,
Corey Leonard texts me.
He's like,
after dark means like after dark,
not afternoon.
It's always dark in our hearts, baby.
It's always dark in our hearts.
After dark came about back
in the day when we were
first getting started and
we'd bring decks on and you
pull the string and you
never knew where you were going.
It was kind of a warning to the crowd.
This ain't your normal Clydesdale podcast.
I joked with my buddy.
I was like, it was like, uh,
my mom would never let me
watch BET after dark.
Cause it was,
you never knew what you were
going to get back on like
tip drill videos were on
there and it was uncensored.
That's right.
So yeah, that's right.
That's on brand baby.
Yeah.
Corey said it's definitely
after dark in our hearts.
Oh, yeah.
For sure.
Oh, Corey.
My dude.
Dude,
I cannot let the two of you get together.
No.
We talk on Instagram way
more now after that initial
day where we just kind of popped on.
But it's, yeah, he's funny, man.
If we got you two on,
it'd be Cinemax after dark.
Jesus Christ.
That's for the old people.
We're dating ourselves now for sure.
Yeah.
is that even a thing well
before streaming services
that was when you had to
pay for it the extra cable
add-on that's it now like
cinemax and hbo combined to
one thing and yeah that's
not you know what you know
what it don't hurt me I
love it because you know
I'm a proponent of the uh
plus size fitness people uh
and clydesdale people your
your name me and chris
walker I told you when we first
When I first met you,
that was always our thing,
like Clydesdale, whatever.
He was on the Maximus team with me.
And then whoever keeps sponsoring this,
Thick Boy,
I finally found him on
Instagram after like the
second time I saw it.
Like, well, all these things I'm missing.
I always joke with people
like my Instagram could
have been like Dextral Healing.
And I missed the boat there
because now it's just my name.
Right?
See?
Really missed the boat there.
But yeah, dude,
there's so many cool brands.
And like when you started this,
I text Chris.
I was like, we missed the boat, boy.
We really could have capitalized.
But Thick Boy is good.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It's funny.
Again,
trolls will switch it to whatever
they want to,
and it's all fine and good
and whatever because I'm
just loving life.
Yeah, you're doing great, dude.
You're doing it.
But you need a platform, right?
You haven't been out there in a while.
There's a whole lot of shit
going on in this CrossFit
thing that we got going on.
And I want to give you that
platform again.
So we're bringing back after dark.
So Dex, you go, man.
What did I text you after
the Sean thing broke?
As Sean thing.
Yep.
Well, you've been texting me a lot lately.
We just finally said, let's,
let's get this thing going.
Cause we've been trying to get to,
we usually have gotten together more than,
you know,
online at this point in the year,
I didn't make it to either
semifinal this year.
And I had an athlete in the West, uh,
had some, you know, our bigger,
bigger athlete people in Tennessee.
which was an easy drive.
We just didn't disperse.
And I was super spoiled.
I've been pumped since 2015
to be a Masters athlete,
so getting to do everything
at home and then kind of a
perfect storm of starting a
new job at Iron Tribe,
which we'll get into that bag,
especially with recent
developments and a bunch of
stuff going on at CrossFit.
Yeah, it was just a weird storm.
I've been blowing your phone
up because I miss you.
Let me love on you.
And every time Charlie
starts posting sneaker stuff again,
I'll give him stuff about, like,
socks matching and wearing
mids and stuff like that.
Well,
I had a media pass for you in Knoxville.
I know, bro.
I know.
I know.
I had babies.
I made the call.
I even made the call.
I know.
I'm the worst, dude.
That was weird.
It was a good weekend, though.
And I hate, again, to go watch the events.
I love the events this year.
uh but yeah dude uh so
before you get rolling
though I do have a three
o'clock meeting and that's
your time oh yeah we're
gonna be short and sweet
baby I didn't know we were
going live uh and I just
wanted to love on y'all a
little bit and then talk
about like them cleaning
house again right like I
feel like me and you've
been through two waves of
feeling the effects of that
stuff man and I got on
there on sean's post the
other day right because
that was kind of a
bombshell to me because
it'd be like if before john
madden died he was like hey
peace out guys I'm not
doing commentary anymore
right or like um you know
Harry Caray and baseball and
stuff like that.
Uh, just like staple names, right.
No matter the venue or the
sport or anything like that.
And I remember like, you know,
kind of seeing the fear
wash over people or not fear, just like,
uh, what the hell do I do now?
Like before Hebrew and them
had buttery bros and all those people,
right.
Uh, when they kind of cleaned house and,
uh,
all that kind of worked itself out for
a smaller group.
And then, you know,
those people went off to have, you know,
a bigger deal personally than,
than what they had.
But like, dude,
being around the brand for so long,
I mean, I've been,
I started, hell, what was it?
Mobile got me into this with
our family in 2010,
summer for my senior year of college,
senior year of football.
And I never left,
never been able to put it down.
Like, I've tried.
that year I just did media
was like the only year I
haven't like full speed, you know,
done it just did something I loved.
And like you slowly but
surely see things that were staples,
right?
Like the Greg stuff is what it is.
Like Greg's always been the
mouth and not scared to say stuff.
I'm like, yeah,
it's the most poorly timed.
And there was some stuff
that comes out that was, you know,
insane and frowned upon.
Cool.
But like, um, and then the Dave stuff,
but like starting to clean
it so much where like the
voice of the sport, bro, like,
And I know everybody wants
to bitch about the
separation of church and
state and the sport is not the community,
but the storytelling of the
sport is a huge deal for
the connection to the community.
You might not throw games
footage into your affiliate
lobby where Susie's coming
in here to lose 150 pounds
and she just wants to be
able to stand up off her
couch and stuff real easy
and play with the kids and
continue to do that and
live independently.
But it's always been a thing to aspire to,
right?
Like old dudes play flag football.
I don't mean to try and go to the NFL,
but they still watch it.
They still love it.
It gives you some feel goods
and some aspiration and some, you know,
something to work to.
But pulling the storytellers
away is so weird to me, dude.
That's why I put that thing up yesterday.
Like we're all just the
violin guy that decided to
keep playing as the Titanic sinks now.
And I text Tommy about it.
I was like, dude,
what the hell is going on?
And nobody knows.
And I didn't see that.
I just saw that Nikki's not
doing it either.
I imagine like, because I'm used to like,
Josh and G's the homie.
Brenton, dude, like they, you know,
have been different about
like getting Brenton and
those people out there.
And so like,
I hate to see when the
decline seems very visible
when they're talking about like, yeah,
it's not for sale, but it is.
And everybody's kind of
playing hot potato with
this thing that I've loved
for so long and has loved me back,
you know,
has let me love on people like you,
us loving each other,
the relationships I've built,
like it's always been my favorite part.
And, you know,
the health and wellness
byproducts and all that stuff,
but like the roots that run
deeper to me have always
been the relationships and
the ability to give and
receive love in a way that just,
it's hard to find somewhere
else in this realm, whether it's sports
the affiliate in the
community uh and so I hate
feeling like that stuff
because I mean you know me
dude I'm a loud mouth uh
the filter between my brain
and mouth does not work
often but when I get on
these things and it's
always been like hey
crossfit's dying because
those have been on youtube
forever and I've always
been like come to bat in a
go to you tap out talking
about it way right uh but
it breaks my heart to be
able to kind of like really see the
feel like it's sinking slow
because nobody knows who's
going to kind of hold the
keys to the car next year or year to year,
what businessman is going
to come in and try to run
it like a tech company or whatever.
And that breaks my heart, dude.
And then where I currently
have a job that has been 90
days and the structure of this,
the development, the follow through,
all the things that I love about
What we do and affiliates
and stuff like that is here
and the support from like a
bigger company,
a brand and all that stuff.
The things that I used to
really wish that like you
consistently got from an HQ
or stuff like that.
You get to knit almost until
by last weekend, we had coach con, um,
in Birmingham with iron tribe and.
My eyes have been open to it,
to what this is,
because this is functional fitness class.
The structure is a little different.
The business structure is a
little different.
It's not free market like Greg had.
I mean, I guess it kind of is.
Just the backing and the
kind of the structure man
is way different from a corporate level.
There's no guessing game
There's no hopes and wishes
that it continues the next
year right now.
There's no season.
There's no open semis games
Because it's strictly let
me peel 100 pounds off of you.
Let me restore function Let
me give you back to a full
vacation with your kids and
all that stuff in here And
we're really really good at
it from an objective
results driven perspective
and that's why I think all
those things hit me a
little heavier now because I
I've been,
and even in a devil's advocate way,
when I've not been like a HQ advocate,
I've been a, you know,
10-year level one coach
just because I didn't want
to give any money because
sometimes I didn't agree
with how we were doing stuff.
But, yeah, dude,
it's been really weird to
transition to something
that is like but different
and then at the same time
seeing kind of the
unraveling of things that I've loved,
especially with like people
I'm close with and chop it
up with when we go to these events.
So let me ask you this question.
Everybody, like,
I've gotten at least 20 DMs
on this Sean Woodland thing.
And everybody's saying, well,
trimming the fat, cost cutting.
That seems too easy to me.
He doesn't make that much money.
No.
I know what most of them make per event.
And I also noticed that,
because I've heard from a reliable source,
the team is going to be
Chase and Adrian with Mike
Garstow on the floor.
Yeah.
And dude, look, Chase and Adrian are, dude,
Adrian is great.
Adrian is the Tony Romo of it.
And you know, I wanted to do that.
I can't, Adrian is awesome.
Him and Chase both.
But they're both under
contract with CrossFit
because of the CrossFit podcast.
Yeah.
So they're a little bit
under more control.
then say you bring in a Sean
Woodland from an outside
media company to do this.
He's not as much under control.
Do you think it's more the
control or more the money?
It's got to be the money and
maybe contractually, but like, I mean,
you got to think we talked about,
like Hebrew and Marston do,
there's no telling how much
more money they make from
strictly a sponsorship standpoint, right?
And you know that now,
because you ride on some of them.
That's how this whole thing floats, right?
There's no telling how much
more money they make doing
their own thing.
And Tommy and Sean have
figured that out as well, right?
Brought on Lauren.
Lauren is professional,
like to the utmost.
And like, I know,
I got a deeper look into
what you're doing with both
hands right now after doing
Morning Chalk Up stuff with Lauren,
right?
Regardless of how that
worked out under that brand,
but seeing the
professionalism that she
brings to it coming out of
the news world and that she's able to do.
And the same thing,
like it also makes me more
impressed with the way
you've picked it up bubble.
Cause that ain't your background.
Like you're not an anchor.
Right.
Um,
that's why I always try to give you the
flowers for it.
But like Sean is the most
professional for those things.
They don't need to control Sean.
Right.
Uh, from a, from a, like the voice,
the voice golden voice.
Right.
heartbeat of the community.
He's been as deep in with HQ
as anybody has been,
like on the review shows, all the things.
It just makes no sense to me.
I understand bringing in new
people and expanding the team, right?
Especially with people like Adrian, bro.
Adrian has his own programming company.
He's not going to go do it for free,
but like, you know,
a lot of times when I got
income coming from other places,
as long as I'm not going to
take a loss at the event,
I want to come love on people,
see the homies, take part, right?
Because we all do genuinely love it.
So if you can make it make sense,
not make me rich, I'm with it.
So that, like, I thought about that too.
And Sean is not one that's like, like me,
I understand why people
don't harass me to go do stuff like that.
I'm very regional addiction.
We do a joke about that all the time.
Like Forrest Gump ain't
getting in the booth.
And like,
I get to talking fast and say wild stuff.
It may not be cool on CBS or
ESPN or whatever.
We're all in that here, right?
Now I could probably tone it
down and get there.
But I mean, dude, Adrian speaks fluent L1.
and has a next level athlete
experience for a ridiculous
amount of years.
Good looking dude, very well spoken,
insanely intelligent depth
of knowledge for not only
like the strength and
conditioning part of as a programmer,
but also as an athlete itself,
do you want athlete and all those things.
Sean has that from a hockey background,
like, and just,
It's weird to me to cut the
feet off of that when you
have such an established thing, right?
I mean,
it's kind of like keeping a member
is way cheaper than going
to find a new one at a gym, right?
So to me,
that's the kind of turnover thing,
which I didn't understand.
Like media stuff, it's expensive, cool.
But like the Sean stuff and
like the whole production
where they have to do the,
like uh what'd they do last
year had chase do it from a
phone basically which chase
didn't mind he did a great
job I text him live while
he's doing those things
like god bless you on this
event this is boring as
hell but they always keep
the ship afloat because
they're pros and they know
the game they know the game
in the booth how to be
professional with it what
the people that do it are
starting it and what if
they're interested in it
need to hear to get that
engagement draw those
people in and that that's
what what kind of drives me
crazy about all this stuff
and I'm just a salty old man for it
There's a lot of things that
drive me crazy.
One,
I've known Sean since the late 90s as
a sports broadcaster in Tallahassee,
Florida, back in the day, right?
Before CrossFit ever even was born,
I watched him on TV.
Sean has never said any
phrase that ruffled a feather.
Never.
In the 12 years we've been doing this.
Yeah.
He has been straight down
the fairway and Carolyn
Prevost in the chat.
She talks to me about how
the athletes love him
because he actually cares
about the backstory of the
athlete and tells that
story as opposed to just
what's happening in that moment.
Right.
And you need that.
You need that fill in a long
chipper workout.
of what's going on with those athletes,
right?
Painful.
He's so good at it.
And it's so, like I said, like you said,
it's not his first, second or 10th rodeo.
And he's so thorough.
His timing is so good.
Like you can't train in
someone to do that.
That's why,
like I joke about Adrian
speaking fluent L1.
Adrian is good at it because
of that experience.
And Adrian's roots in the
sport are infinitely deep.
I see people fuss sometimes
in the comments and like
they've even done it to me like,
we want to hear people talk
about this and not their
athletic experience.
Dude,
what does Tony Romo do on a Monday night?
Right?
Like, what does Greg Olson do?
Your relative experience is
going to give you another
layer into what athletes are thinking,
regardless of sport.
I hope someday they do it with Tiger Woods,
if they can get him in the booth.
I can't imagine the things
or the nuances he can let you in on.
And Sean's never been to the games,
but Sean can do that.
And I joke with people all the time,
because everybody does,
coaches who've never done it,
Bill Belichick never threw a football,
homie.
But he's one of the greatest
coaches to ever live.
So you don't have to have that.
And that's,
Sean's so good at telling those stories,
like you're saying.
And that's why I'm partial
to the former athletes.
But like, yeah,
Sean doesn't run for feathers.
So it has to be,
it's not a control thing to me.
It has to be a money grab.
But that makes me turn into
like bigger picture things,
like the direction of that company.
And like,
are we all like just holding this
football on the table,
hoping somebody takes it
and runs with it?
Like, so...
I mentioned where I work now, Iron Tribe,
right?
So structure-wise, a lot of franchises,
very Southeastern.
It is not the numbers
monster that affiliates are, right?
But the fear, and I felt the issue,
and I've talked about this, Scott,
I should have opened the
gym five years ago by myself, right?
Product-wise, on the floor, cash money.
The things that scare me,
building the systems, building the brand,
building the visibility,
coming up with all the things,
like I can get it
conceptualized in my head,
putting it to paper in a spreadsheet,
and articulating it out to
drive traffic and put the car together,
so to speak, right?
I always say I've driven the
car for a lot of people.
These things happen here in a seamless way,
systems from...
onboarding from coaches
through a video series.
Matt, what's Forrest's last name?
Forrest Walden.
Forrest Walden's the guy that founded it,
right?
And it's only funny because
I used to be such a hater
for it because the first
CrossFit journal I ever
read was this logo, nothing backwards,
this logo powered by
CrossFit in Birmingham.
And it was a CrossFit
journal about them suing
them for doing what Jason did.
And, you know,
they end up slapping him on
the wrist for NorCal stuff, right?
Because we don't want you to franchise,
yada, yada, yada.
But dude...
the system to support from
start to build to you know
to the clouds if you want to here
It's something I joked before at CoachCon,
right?
And I said that term earlier.
All the coaches for Iron
Tribe went to Birmingham,
had this weekend of development.
Nobody paid for it.
First form shows up.
Sponsors show up.
We all kick it together, work out,
talk about our best practices, directions,
State of the Union stuff.
So it's not a hopeful
YouTube channel we got or
YouTube post we got from
CrossFit that's probably
not going to happen now.
Like,
they give Hiller the most shit in
those things.
And it's so weird to me.
Like, me and you joked about that.
I love Andrew.
I've always been terrified
of not being in the room
and getting denied media passes and stuff,
but I'm on board with most
of the things he says and
the spotlights he put on,
because he's very informed.
He's done a deeper dance with it,
owning an affiliate and all
those things than I have,
so never been a hater.
Some of it's kind of brash, but it's also,
he has no problem telling
you this for views.
But I've done coaching
development with people.
I have done...
many many many hours on the
floor and all the things
that are affiliate uh
except on it and stood on
the you know the nice edge
of that uh just out of fear
and that's something I'm
getting over but uh doing
this dude really made me
eat some crow um and kind
of take a look at the flow
that we have been doing and
I have friends who are our
affiliate heads for their
region right chase is one of them
Andrew's one of them in North Central.
And they're awesome dudes.
They have very successful businesses.
I think Chase sold Big D.
Andrew's got an awesome
affiliate and like takes
nothing away from those.
It's just hopes and wishes
of like something that I
love for so long and
getting a different taste
of it where it's same realm,
just a different flavor.
And it works, dog.
Works consistently.
And the stats say that over 10 years,
10 years plus now.
And so it made me go in
deeper thinking of like the,
the model they have for
people and seeing people
pass this hot potato around.
Right.
Um, so that's what worries me, man.
I don't, I don't,
I hope it doesn't go anywhere,
especially since I just
started masters and we got
in on the first shot.
And look, you said that the other night,
if they took 20 decks,
I would have went faster, Scott.
Okay.
I'm good in house.
We just, we want to do just enough, baby,
just enough to get in.
We'll show all your cards.
Um, as far as anybody knows,
I just lift weights.
I don't condition at all.
That's why I joked on my
post I put on last night, but
um yeah we had you on the
show going into the last
two events and you were
scared as hell with those
last two events oh dude
they were so good for me I
pissed down my leg this
time yeah me and marquand
joked about the other day
he was talking about
testing semis workouts um
and like we always joke
about like people who are
taking stuff and this that
another and he was talking
about testing one
And I said the same thing.
I was like, dude,
I didn't repeat any of them.
Cause I was like,
these are home runs for me.
Like muscle up, heavy front squat.
Cool.
I wish it was 275.
No big deal.
Cause I knew some people
were going to get popped
for standing up front
squats and like front
squats and muscle ups are cool for me,
dude.
I did not do that well on those.
And I don't know if it was
like an overconfidence thing or whatever.
Kwan said the same thing.
He said, yeah, I tested that workout.
I was like, okay, cool.
Respectable score.
Takes a 20th at semis on the
workout he was talking about.
And he was like, that's when I was like,
Yeah, well,
it's more than protein shakes
being drunk out here.
So, but they, it's funny, man,
just the progression of the game.
My thing has always been to
try to stay in it and check
in to see if it's passed me
by from a capacity level, right?
Like I am in here.
What you're saying, though,
is people are adding creatine?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
It's just the most researched.
Yeah, it's got to be.
It's beam.
It's beam is what it is.
They're sleeping better.
That's what it is.
It's got to be.
It's an ice bath.
But they snort the beam is what I heard.
It's the delivery is what it is.
So it's a wild time.
But I don't know, man.
I love the game on every level, right?
I'm coming in to be a healthy grandpa,
grandma, mom, dad, brother, sister, wife,
husband, whatever.
and I love competing,
and I want this thing to keep churning.
I don't want to see the
numbers drop on the
affiliate map or any of those things,
but I don't like being in
the dark or wondering,
and I don't think anybody does,
and the more figureheads that fall,
the more it feels like inevitability,
and I hate that,
so I don't want to see it go down, man.
I've loved love this long,
and I love football now,
so it'll break my heart, but
The version it'll go on
right in some capacity.
I just would like it to be
the global community.
It's always been.
And not kind of wither away.
Even when people are trying to grab it.
I thought that front step
squat muscle up workout was
going to be great for me.
My gravy gravy turned out to be burnt.
Mine was tomato gravy, which nobody likes,
right?
That's old man gravy.
If you're striking,
if you say you like tomato gravy,
you're born in 1936.
But.
Yeah, look, in-house, I love it, dude.
Doing every stage in-house.
Oh, that was so good.
Slept in my own bed.
Got to cook myself breakfast.
Didn't have to go spend any money.
It was beautiful.
It might have been why I was
lazy trying to get to Knoxville, Scott.
I was spoiled.
I'm a spoiled old man now.
What I love about having you
on is who the hell knows
where we're going.
That's why it's after dark, right?
Because we don't know.
So what is an appropriate
number for masters?
Because 40 for all the
divisions is too many athletes.
Okay.
So I would say that if we
were all one event,
if it is its own event,
I don't think 40 is too many.
So now we can treat it like a real event.
We can have heats, right?
There's gap time in between the events.
You can get a little sexy
with the programming.
What I didn't like when we
were here another day,
there was news to me.
That's why I was in there
like going crazy.
I didn't realize everybody
was shuffling stuff.
I'm a gear whore.
You know that.
I want a sign.
The whole reason I was
pumped about this this year,
I want a sign with my name on it.
All my signs say Maximus or Move Fast,
Lift Heavy or Romwod, Meat Squad,
which I love.
All of those people I've
ever been on a team with,
I love dearly except for
one or two and they know who they are.
But those are the signs.
I want something to say Dex Hopkins.
Well,
you're going to have to wash it 17
times to make it through the weekend.
It might be a business card now.
It might not be a sign, but like the,
that's why I joked.
Cause that 2015,
the first year we went dog,
I'm telling you the highlighter,
orange and blue stuff.
I took it home and washed it.
And I worked at Maximus, right?
I could wear that as coaching shirt.
Well,
I must've washed and dried that
Reebok shirt and everything
peeled off of it.
Like it was just,
they pressed it on with
like the hotel iron before
they came and gave it to us.
And I loved all that.
You couldn't tell me nothing about it.
I wore those tights an
unreasonable amount of times.
But that's what somebody fussed over.
They were like,
Reebok colors are so much cooler.
Yeah, you wasn't there.
That neutral stuff was sexy.
I'd wear that out somewhere.
I don't like no bull shoes.
The apparel is Lulu, basically.
For the spectator,
we could tell who was who.
Yeah, okay.
That was a valid point.
I get that.
But also...
Now we can wear whatever shoes we want.
At some point, I'm going to wear Jordan's.
So you look for me anyway.
You're the homie.
Charlie's looking for me.
We can pick my shoes out.
Well,
you're taller than everybody else on
the floor.
You're easy to find.
Also that, yes.
I've been waiting on the
dunk contest event.
But, yeah, dude,
so I don't – bring it back around.
I don't think 40 is too many
if it's a standalone event.
I'm excited to see what
Brock and them do in
Michigan with the team games.
If you've ever been to the pit.
Did you ever make it out to the pit?
I have not.
Dude, it's his setup.
I knew last year,
I took one of my athletes, Anna Meredith,
out there.
She won it the year before the JV.
Did well in varsity last year.
But it's, God, it's so good, dude.
But infrastructure-wise,
there's only so many places
to take a poop,
and that would be a huge problem, right?
It'd be like Woodstock.
Everybody would be out there
sleeping in the mud and plus.
Jamie went there last year
and said they got to do
something about seating and
infrastructure.
It's impossible.
It's only going to be at the pit one day.
The rest is in Kalamazoo.
Dude, I'm telling you,
the things they can do at the pit, dog,
it's sexy.
I mean, I need to text Brock.
We haven't talked.
It's been a weird year, but like
Dude, the pit is sexy,
and that's what I said,
because Boz was creeping
around last year.
I was like, hey, what you doing here?
I know what y'all about to do.
And I prayed Masters wasn't
going to do it.
And then the more they got into it,
the more I was cool with it
because of the pageantry, right?
Like, I've been on teams.
I've been the stepchild.
Your events are on the
chopping block for time.
And the Masters stuff,
I didn't want to be the same way.
But it being its own standalone event,
and Jason Grubbs, you know,
I think feels the same way.
He was excited about it.
And to me,
he's like the guy that pulls that wagon.
And he was just at a brew
camp in Jacksonville.
I love Jason Grubbs, like, and everything.
YouTube channel, great person, like,
one of the most coachable people ever.
Love the cat.
And so we got to chop it up about it,
and it changed my mind about it.
And then last year, I was at NFC, right?
Like,
Masters Fitness Collective was awesome.
And like Ron and his lady run it.
I want to say mostly his lady.
Ron's the shake hands and kiss babies guy.
He's the model out there.
Pretty boy Ron.
But I thought that was going to be it.
And that's why I went and
did that event because I'd
never done Legends.
But, you know,
in the leagues and things happen, dude.
It's funny to see people get
stirred up about that.
Like, who cares?
It happens.
People are people and
they're going to help the homies out.
Like, it's not unethical or whatever.
You'd be crazy not to, I guess.
But I thought because it's
its own standalone thing,
it'll be a little sexier.
When we were talking about
the other night about like
sponsors dipping in and out
and the bag being a little
less as far as like, you know, the cool,
here's my gear picture.
I didn't realize that like
Go-Ruck pulled out of that
and it was just Northern
Lights and all that stuff.
And so, you know, which is cool,
like qualifying and the
stuff that comes with that
is cool enough for me.
I got enough workout apparel and shoes.
By God, I got enough shoes.
It's a,
I just want the experience for the
fastest growing demographic
and make no mistake.
And then working here is
letting me know even more.
So the fastest growing demographic in that,
as more information comes
out about longevity and
your ability to maintain
muscle mass and live
independently and metabolic
disease and all this stuff,
the more of those things come out,
the more that it's actually
a lifeboat to the people that need it,
dog, that are the closest to it,
not 18 and 19-year-olds, right?
Like 30-plus, 35,
40-plus-year-olds that are
now trying to take a hold
of their health and move into a healthy,
functional retirement and
want to live by themselves
and wipe their own ass
their whole life and not
have to be in a home.
It seems more logical to me
to service that community.
And again,
games as church and state from
the community, I get that.
But those are the folks who
are going to spend the
money to come watch.
They're going to take PTO.
If they got PTO,
they might be retired already.
Right.
Like, and so, and they like, uh,
me and Jared talk about
this all the time.
Uh, almost like comp training,
proven Jared,
everybody's damn proven right now.
Um, but you know,
he put up something today
about like elite marathoners.
Like sometimes I've still on
track athletes, cover the travel,
cover the shoes and all this stuff.
Like I'm not naive to that, man.
Like,
This is not going to be the NFL.
It's fine.
There's opportunities out there,
but for a very select few,
and me and you are homies
with some of those people
that are the select few
that make the bag.
But here's the deal.
I'm cool with you only
giving out three shirts and
three pairs of shorts.
Yeah,
but let me wear whatever else I want
after that.
But don't require them to
wear it at every event then
for 12 events.
Yeah, I will say that about Reebok.
As much as I was not a fan
of a lot of their stuff, boy,
you couldn't wear...
So year to year,
this is a funny kind of weird point,
right?
2015 to 17 is when like
stance socks got sexy, right?
Charlie remembers this, sneaker guy.
So stance socks were cool.
The first year I went in
2015 is when they gave you
like cool high top socks, all that stuff.
People were still wearing stance socks.
And if you went then,
you couldn't wear a
different kind of underwear
that wasn't Reebok.
If you wore Nike underwear,
you had to put your Reebok
tights over it.
Right.
Uh, nothing had to all be re-bought,
which is awesome.
Title sponsor, re-bought CrossFit games,
yada, yada, yada.
I got to,
but they gave you enough to get to,
they gave you $6,500 worth of stuff.
I don't know that I was not
joking that I wrote it off
of my taxes that year.
Um, but yeah, if you're going to limit it,
cause I did not wear all
that stuff that weekend could not have,
unless I like changed,
like in walks between events.
And then 2017 was the same thing.
They gave out ankle socks
and tall white tube socks
to like punish everybody.
It was funny.
Which is fine now.
Tall white socks are sexy.
But they, you know,
it was a different time.
The stand socks were cool.
So that's how they kind of
punished everybody.
I still joke with Tal about
that way down the road, man.
But it's, you know,
and that's just another like big shift,
dude.
Like I used to joke with
people about like CrossFit saving Reebok.
It never did.
I never knew that Reebok and
Adidas were basically the same company,
which is hilarious to see
Adidas make such an
aggressive push in Europe.
That was a lot,
because some of those
people had just signed with
other shoe companies,
and they're out there wearing Gazelles.
I was waiting for somebody
to wear the Run DMC joints,
but nobody's shoe culture.
You're a shoe guy, right?
Adidas has made a massive push.
No, Adidas still puts out bangers.
Adidas still looks good.
Joel just reviewed that Drop Zero,
I think it's called.
The only Adidas I got are Yeezys.
I don't know if I can say
that on here now.
That's the only Adidas I have.
Joel loved the fitness shoe
they came out with.
I think they've had it for a while.
And for a long time,
everybody wore out-of-power lifters,
right?
They were the authority.
Basically,
it was them and Romaleos and
weightlifting.
And then, of course, in CrossFit,
it comes out, right?
Because that old out-of-power, honestly,
it was like you could do
box jumps and it was kind of floppy.
But, yeah, dude, and look,
I love Go-Ruck stuff.
I think I thought that was a
cool move and it's a bigger
company to where, like,
CrossFit's not their bread and butter.
And that's always been a
better relationship to me when, like,
it's not your bread and
butter so you don't have to
make risky decisions, right?
I was waiting on the bubble
to pop for no bull like
that venture capitalist
money to run out for a long time.
Just because like,
I feel like most brands that,
and this is only like my
experience like Romwod, right?
There was a certain point
where you stopped seeing
that word because they did
not want to be tied just to CrossFit,
right?
It kind of puts a ceiling on
your ability to scale.
So all you started seeing, if you remember,
is that RW logo, the circle, right?
Wu-Tang, but it's a,
A lot of people don't like
being tied to it like that.
And so that's why I was cool
with No Ruck and Go Ruck.
And if you saw how they
inserted themselves in the space, dude,
they are giving awesome
work to media people.
They were setting up huge booths.
And you and I, now that's a big thing,
open thing people are talking about,
how much it costs to just
be present at an event and
all those things.
And they did it right, dude.
They got in and assimilated
to the community.
Hey,
now we're going to write that big check.
And again, Ryan Schultz, my dog,
let me look behind the
Wizard of Oz curtain.
I know how much that check is.
It's a lot.
And so that's why I was cool.
Like when they're like, Oh,
masters games in Birmingham.
I was like, Oh God,
I get to cook breakfast in my kitchen,
sleep in my bed,
get some noble or some go-ruck stuff.
Um, but I don't know.
I text everybody and ask
them how that Northern light stuff was.
It was real, real mixed review.
So we'll see.
Um, but I agree.
If I go, you don't give me three shirts,
I need to be able to sell
the windshield like Ricky Bobby.
But now we, now we can make some money.
All right, let me,
Let me throw a little
temporary tattoo on or something like, oh,
the price is right, a permanent tattoo.
I don't know.
Let's go crazy.
I got an empty leg and arm I
need to fill up.
But it's still going to be fun, dude.
Like, you know me.
I'm going to go suck all the
positivity out of it I can.
get all the hugs and high
fives and consensual chest
bumps I can give out and
then see the people I love being around,
man.
And it's more things for you
to come and do and content stuff.
And so everybody's going to
get a cool piece of the pie.
I just don't want the pie to
go bad and not be any pie
next year or the year after that.
Right.
So, yeah, that's my biggest thing.
Like the masters are over
50% of the open registrants.
Yeah.
Right.
Like that number has not
changed in five years.
Yeah.
And I don't want them shit on.
We moved over here to Birmingham, right?
No.
Oh,
tomorrow we find out if we're going to
get to do behind the scenes
of the Masters games.
It might be up, dog.
It might be up.
You know what?
I want to be fit enough for
me and easy to have like a
bird and magic rivalry.
But we'll see.
I haven't put that out there
until right now, I guess.
I should have left that in the brain, but.
Yeah, I'd love to be fit enough,
but there's some freaks in our thing.
I'm hoping some people can't
make that overseas travel, baby.
I'm going to make a statement here.
Probably get me in trouble,
but I'm going to make it
because I watch this sport.
When you came in in 41st,
I looked at people's videos ahead of you.
see should people get popped
or penalized so that my boy
can get in oh yeah was easy
columbus native hometown
kid yeah big fan dude range
of motion needs some work
easy yes scott easy touch
and go snatch 300 before it
was cool his range of
motion is fine I'll tell
you what got him last year
is the workout was weird
but he was that well he was
that rich as jim I ain't
trying to go be I want the
lights and I'm gonna record
myself I ain't going to be
around everybody looking
that's crazy um but like
dude he's a he's a staple
in the sport right
especially if like
african-american community
like I think back alex
netty elizabeth akamali
whom I still love I want
him there I want him there
but like you know I'm
talking about like better
than his during this
No,
I know exactly who got popped for me
because I texted him
immediately when he dropped out.
It was Chase Hill.
They got him on standing up front squats,
which Chase's range of motion,
he can touch his ball back
to the ground when he squats.
It must have been like standing up.
Chase is an incredibly fit,
and the weight was not heavy enough.
I don't think they really
reviewed many videos, man.
No, I don't think they did either.
Yeah, dude, I can't.
Me and him texted about it, and I was like,
oh, shit,
they're going to give you an appeal, dog.
But I was in like 36th for a whole day,
and then they must have
gave some people a appeal
or something like that.
But no, dude,
I think in-house stuff is
in-house stuff for sure.
I did Masters Fitness
Collective last year.
That was probably the best
I've ever felt competing in person.
So that's why I was, you know,
I was pumped about the
season and I waited long
enough to start striking
matches to seal the turn
from Ben Bergeron.
I only got so many to strike.
So I waited a while to start
striking matches and
training and like getting
emotionally involved with
it and day to day.
And this is probably the
best I've ever felt leading
into a season and throughout, right?
Normally do when I get to semifinals,
I'm so burnt out from being
a psychopath and emotional
ups and downs and thinking
every day has got to be perfect.
And so there's been a big
kind of maturity process in
me athletically at 35, but it's, uh,
it's been good, man.
And as the guy, you know,
I've worked with a few coaches.
I love Jason Layden.
We made huge progress, dude.
And,
and L is one of the coaches on brute
with brute with me,
who is an absolute genius.
Like, you know,
I thought Kelsey had an awesome year.
Danielle's having a really good year.
He coaches her.
And he does the same with me, dude.
And I'm,
I'm older and wiser and he does
not beat me to death.
And it's a minimal dose,
maximum effectiveness stuff.
So I thought,
I think it's going to be a good year and,
and easy, like deserves to be there.
He's always been really fit
when he wants to be like,
he took some years off, but,
Dude, he's been fit for a long time,
and so it's going to be really fun.
I didn't realize Bronislav was in 35-39.
I want to say Morad's going to do it.
He pulled out at Knoxville,
so I'm not sure what the
reason was for that.
So I talked to him before
that week ended up,
and he said depending on
what they find and
depending on what they
announce is the prize money for it.
Oh, shit.
Well, he ain't coming.
What was it?
It's the same as it's always been.
$25,000 to win.
If he's healthy.
What'd he do?
He was having an MRI the next day.
He's so strong.
He's so strong and moves so well.
Uh-oh.
Someone cut Dex's cord.
I didn't think anybody could do that.
I thought that was me this time.
No, it's, it's deck.
There we go.
We got it back.
Was that me?
Yep.
Oh, my bad.
The internet here is dodgy when it rains.
Um, but we'll move so well, dude,
it's weird for him to have, I'm not,
I wish I was joking.
This is like dead ass here.
Uh, he moves so well.
It's weird.
And he's been doing it for so long.
It's weird for him to have
like a nitpicky injury like that.
Uh, he's so strong though.
Um,
But yeah, it'll be fun, dude.
I think the field is very cool to me,
just looking at the host of characters.
I don't know a lot of them,
but like the Wills and
Bronislaw and Easy's been in there.
It'll be cool for me to go
have a whole lot of give a
shit for an individual
competition finally.
And now we don't have to
feel weird when we say Dex Hawkins,
games athlete.
I only did individual.
I don't care if it's Masters.
Suck it, everybody.
Shawn Michaels, suck it, thanks.
But it's going to be a fun weekend, dude.
Mississippi's next door to Alabama,
so most of the homies that
have been along the ride
with me the whole time I've
done it will be able to come.
So it's going to be a good time,
and my little girls will be
able to be there.
So it'll be awesome,
because they were at
Syndicate last time I did Individual,
not really able to yell, go daddy.
But now they both can,
and they're both little
absolute psychopaths.
So we're going to have a weekend.
So I got a quick question for you,
and I want Charlie to jump in here,
because we're all fans of
the Attitude Era of WWE.
Yeah.
Right?
With the 35 to 39-year-old group,
how much chirping is going
to go on during that event?
Oh, I'm a proponent of it,
and you know that I wish
this was a thing for years.
Dallin and Hopper-
I don't know.
Look, I ain't talking shit to Roman ever.
I know what you used to do for a living.
I don't want any part of that, sir.
And you're rushing.
I don't know how serious you
are and don't understand
most of the things you say.
But, dude, it'll be fun.
Easy will talk smack in a healthy way.
And, like, I think that group, like,
at Masters, at NFC,
mad shit talk in the stalls,
in the walking out.
Like, me and Ken Batterson,
Alex from Louisiana,
And a bunch of people do.
That's what's so weird.
Me and Alex started together.
Our first year at regional
was 2014 together, and we were there.
I think he kicked my ass that weekend.
But it's a little healthy smack talk sesh,
like we're playing pick up at the YMCA,
doing weird two-handed
layups because we're old.
It'll be fun, dude.
I'm excited.
And then we are all Attitude
Air kids if you watch wrestling.
If you're in the South,
you watch wrestling probably.
And I'm going to wear it.
I don't know.
I wonder how much trouble
we'll get in since they
gave us three t-shirts if I
do wear like a DX Suck It
shirt because I got one.
So we'll see.
You almost had to.
You had the Stone Cold.
So you got to bring the other one out.
I also got a hat.
The hat's fair game, I feel like.
Yeah,
I got a Stone Cold hat and a Suck It hat.
And worst case,
I'll just do the Shawn
Michaels pose if I do well in an event.
I ain't mad at that.
And then somebody can throw me, like,
my buddy Michael threw me
two beers the year at Syndicate.
Wasn't too cool because I was in, like,
20th, but whatever.
We were having fun.
He threw me two beers from the stands,
and I smashed two of them.
But, yeah, dude, I'm going to go have fun.
I'm going to be fit.
And that group of people, you know,
and a bunch of friends.
Kenji Riley's going to be there.
Like,
we haven't been in the same place
competing in a long time,
so it's going to be...
It's going to be a fun weekend, dude.
And that means Roy's going
to be there and her little hooligans.
She's got two little clones now.
So everybody that's started
with me has all the
childrens and all the things.
And so a few of them will be there.
And so there should be some
real healthy you suck shit talk.
But it'll also be like high
fives and then hugs at the
end like it always is.
But I want the spice in there.
Yeah.
Corey said at NFC we had a
guy straight up call a shot
and then backed it up.
It was me, Corey.
Actually, Ken went first.
That last workout,
whoever programmed that shit,
I told them I tested it and
did it in one round.
They called me a liar to my face.
And then Ken was in the heat
before us and did it.
And I thank you that we tied.
You might have beat me by a second.
But it was like you had
three minutes to do 300-meter row,
three deadlifts, 365, three leg lifts.
And I think maybe it was 150
handstand walks.
And Ken's like,
it was an old like grid pro
when it was like grid,
not weird Florida minor
league scary stuff.
It's not.
They're doing a great job.
That was not a stray they should catch.
They're doing great.
It's cool.
I just, grid still gives me PTSD.
But yeah, Ken is freakishly fit.
And so we broke that workout and did it.
Most of us did it in one round.
It was fun.
But it was us, Corey.
How dare you?
How dare you?
We'll do the same thing this weekend.
That's how I wish Ken would qualify, dude.
It would have been fun to have that.
And hell, he might come and watch.
But they were all around Maximus.
I want to say Ken lives in
Indiana or somewhere around
there in that region.
So they were always around there.
Him,
I don't know if Tony's competing this
year from Timberwolf that used to be.
But Tony's been exceptionally fit.
He's been a master's guy for a long time.
Like most people, didn't want to do it,
which I get.
Hurton now is a lot
different than Hurton then.
But I just want to stay a scary dad.
That's all.
Well, I love when you turn 35,
like getting canceled isn't even,
doesn't even matter anymore.
Am I in that?
Am I in that space now?
You just, you can say whatever you want.
Nobody cares.
35 is the old man mark where
you can say creepy shit and
not because that's news to me.
And we're about to rev that up.
So I've been waiting on that.
Yeah.
Yeah.
In the gym for sure.
Well, they, that's, what's weird is like,
I'm so that is the
different framework of this place.
So classes of 45 minutes, um,
The population is very similar.
The approach is a little
different as far as methodology stuff.
Very similar methodology,
very much more opportunity
for it to bleed into every
other part of your life
from a structure standpoint
as far as nutrition and
kind of guiding every step
of your health and wellness stuff.
But, like, what does shit talk to say?
I am doing the exact, like,
demos and stuff.
And it's appreciated, dude.
And it's appreciated everywhere.
Just, you know,
being in a new place where it's...
It is, but it's not.
I don't know what I can and
cannot say yet.
But giving flowers to everybody,
I still love both.
But this place has been a
breath of fresh air to me.
Getting back into a place
that has professionalism,
is very interested in
creating careers for
coaches as far as salary benefits.
And the heart of it is still
to cure the world's most
vaccinated disease through
the same methodology.
And so I'm on board.
And the deeper I get into it,
the more on board I am,
especially under this flag,
because it tickles all my feel goods.
I still get to come.
kick it with the homies and
do my thing so uh is it
more of a franchise model
as opposed to like yeah
yeah so so their
headquarters are in
birmingham right that's
where we did uh coach khan
mine is in madison alabama
there's one in downtown
huntsville uh the homie
macy runs blair morris owns
the two here I'm not sure
who owns the ones in
birmingham but it might
just be uh corporate but
The corporate offices are in Birmingham.
It's very regional.
I think the furthest west it
goes is Houston.
The furthest east it goes is
South Carolina, maybe.
But I mean,
I ain't going to get into the
nooks and crannies of it.
But business model-wise,
we could take some things.
It is very tried and true and steady.
I'll say that.
And I've dug it, man.
It is a thing to present to
people that the friction
points of an affiliate
whether you're starting a
business or other thing, otherwise, uh,
taking off.
So you get to, I dare say,
be more of a flow state of
the things that are important to you.
So if you're a books person, cool,
do the books.
Here's the structure for the
classes and all these things.
Uh,
it gets a little more personal on the
development side, right?
I don't bring Scott into that hour class,
smash him like, all right, Scott,
hope your pull-ups develop
next class that when it comes back around,
right?
It's very structured.
We do 45 minute classes.
There's no argument about a
Metcon and a Lyft every day.
The programming,
if you come to this Iron
Tribe or an Iron Tribe in Birmingham,
is exactly the same.
The product's the same,
the flow of the class, the verbiage.
I dare say the way we teach.
I know I probably have a
little nuance versus some people.
I just kind of learned that this weekend.
My man Matt, this operations guy here,
is a little different.
He's a jiu-jitsu guy and a
Westside-minded fella.
Um,
but it was cool last weekend and they had,
I mean, you remember the big sky things,
right?
Like where they did everybody there.
So they do that every year.
It's not a memory.
It's a constant practice, uh, a lot here.
So, um, they,
I want to say maybe 200 something here.
Tickets are the tickets a
little different here.
Uh, I'd say also look at that.
So, uh, but I mean, we have,
so just model wise,
we have two class options.
It's power.
It's traditional kind of
functional fitness class, right?
And then prime, right?
So say Scott's coming off.
What's the last injury you had?
I can't remember.
All of them.
Every one of them.
Yeah.
All of them.
So when you're coming off that injury,
right, it's hard to come back into class.
Like, hey, we're doing Fran today, guys.
Well, Scott, get on the bike.
Right?
So we do prime stuff.
And so prime is like the
personal training class.
So you come in.
Your program's personal.
Your nutrition stuff's personal.
and all that stuff.
So it is elaborate, dude.
And the things available to
you that you're able to
take hold of as far as just
a deep experience and across the board,
like franchise to franchise,
whether it's a standalone
one like Blair has here in
two locations or the HQ
one's down in Birmingham,
the experience is the same.
Programming for power is the same.
So it's like, I mean, you go to Polaris,
it's Polaris' programming,
or maybe they're
Shit.
What's Christie's programming?
Ibex.
Ibex.
Maybe it's Ibex.
Maybe Charlie goes to a
Mayhem one or this or that.
Everybody's got their own flavor, right?
They're all cool.
and whatever,
but you know what you're going to.
We go to Mayhem Gym,
we're probably going to do
a million GHDs and rope climbs.
We go, you know, whatever.
Whatever that flavor is.
It's consistent here, right?
There's a lady in here now
who lives in Nashville.
Her daughter's doing a summer internship.
She comes in here every day.
Same membership.
Covers this one, right?
So she can check in here.
All her stats are tracked.
All the software and stuff like is...
Pretty proprietary, the app's dope.
I've been, like I said,
I've tasted a lot of foot
and eaten some crow in the
last three months as far as
like my outlook and my very, you know,
this is the way, now how we do it is,
you know, CrossFit.
But it's been different in a
very positive light, man.
It's been a cool one to stand in,
especially last weekend
getting to kind of rub
elbows with their head of programming,
Kyle.
Forrest,
the guy who kind of founded it and
kind of navigated the
lawsuit stuff across there and kind of,
you know,
made it right and has this thing.
And just like,
and it's Christian organization, which I,
you know, I'm down with JC.
And so it's been awesome.
And then the outlook for me
is like long-term.
So, and a lot of, like I said,
a lot of the fear I had to
open an affiliate to where it's risky,
right?
That business model, it is what it is.
And there's very good verbiage to like, oh,
you can,
there's the toolbox and all this stuff.
And that's cool.
but it's still on you.
And this is that same scenario,
but the support that comes
along is not that verbiage like,
here's the tools.
Good luck.
Pay your affiliate fee.
And not to say that's the
depth they go to.
That's just, you know,
that's what I know about it.
And so it's been cool.
I've dug it.
Well, it's been awesome catching up.
We're going to have to do
this more periodic.
It's your take home.
Well, we'll get you out of here early,
babe.
We got four minutes.
We're done.
Get your meeting.
I love you guys.
Yeah.
I'm going to holler at you, man.
We're going to be around.
I'll definitely see you in
birmingham baby yeah for
sure um and you might even
be the star of the behind
the scenes who knows might
be up been waiting on him
with that thank you
everybody in the chat you
guys have been awesome as
always and uh yeah we'll be
back again sometime in the
future with clydesdale
after dark hell yeah
brother see you guys later bye guys