David Strickel | The Stream

Awareness is often praised as the key to growth — but under pressure, it’s rarely enough.

In this episode of The Tya Podcast, David sits down with David Roode to explore why intelligent, self-aware people still spiral when stakes are high — and what actually creates emotional stability in real-world conditions.

This conversation goes beyond insight and into regulation, speed, and structure — the elements that determine how decisions are made when pressure is real.
In this episode, you’ll explore:
  • Why awareness can accelerate dysfunction without regulation
  • How intelligence amplifies existing emotional systems under stress
  • The difference between insight and stability
  • Why emotional regulation is structural, not motivational
If you’ve ever known better but still reacted — this episode explains why.

Creators and Guests

Host
David Strickel
Producer
Stephanie Pitman

What is David Strickel | The Stream?

David Strickel examines consciousness, fear, judgment, and how humans orient themselves in a rapidly changing world.

His perspective is shaped by his ongoing relationship with Source consciousness known as the Stream.

These episodes provide context, inquiry, and reflection through conversation and lived experience.

The podcast exists to support clear thinking and sovereignty of mind during periods of uncertainty.

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David Rood, Tya Coach, Tya Geek, self-proclaimed Tya Geek.

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Well, yeah, thank you.

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I think I said it first, but you gave me the name, I have to say.

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It was not for me, but it sticks.

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But we're clarifying that you're not offended by it.

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And if you are, you'll get over it.

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Yeah, yeah.

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Well, I call myself tag geek, too, but you really geek out on the practice, and I love that.

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I do.

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I love that.

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I was a band geek in high school,

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so this is not really a far stretch from that,

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to be honest with you.

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Did you love being a band geek in high school?

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No, that was kind of a derogatory thing.

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Although it's funny, in my high school, the band kids didn't get that kind of flack a whole lot.

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We were kind of, nobody cared about us.

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In other schools, they got bullied because they were in band.

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And I didn't understand why, but I was fortunate.

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I never actually had to deal with being bullied because I was a musician.

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which is funny now as an adult you're like why would you bully somebody for that

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you know but when you're a high school kid it's a bit different you know so yeah

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what era were you in high school what i grew up it was like 90s yeah okay so not

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too far i was i graduated high school in late 80s so in the 80s in the south in my

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very conservative southern high school i don't remember the band people i think

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they kind of just stuck to themselves

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I couldn't tell you who they were.

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Quieter, I guess, just did their own thing.

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They certainly weren't the quote unquote cool kids that I'm aware of or the popular

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kids or any of that.

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But I don't remember bullying necessarily.

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But in the 90s, geek took on a different vibe because of all the tech geeks, right?

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And now they're running the world.

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They're our billionaires now.

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So, yeah, I think geek changed a little bit.

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But that's not what this episode is about.

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We're not here to talk about geek or no geek.

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I'm actually here to break it to David because he is a fan of

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my trance channeling of the stream and i don't really do that anymore and so i'm

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here to to break the news david that i i'm not doing that anymore oh i'm sorry uh

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well

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We kind of discussed this a little bit before we came on,

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but I am still allowing that knowledge to flow,

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but it feels so integrated these days.

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And I've said this before,

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and I went an entire year without doing it,

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and then I kind of got back into it a little bit because everybody was asking for

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it.

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I even did a live event last year in Palm Springs where everybody came to the event

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just for that.

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So I understand the appreciation behind it, but...

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I don't feel that it's serving the audience like it used to.

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The concept of trance channeling is you are taking yourself into an altered state of being.

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I like to say you're setting your ego aside and you're letting knowledge flow from

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somewhere else.

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And I have said from the very beginning that I feel like that knowledge exists

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within all of us.

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That I wasn't trying to say,

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I'm special,

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I have this,

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and you need to come and listen because you don't have access to this.

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But I do see that there's value in the fact that I have spent a lifetime listening

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to this inner voice

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And I think the difference between me and a lot of other people is that very early on in life,

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I did not really care for what I was hearing externally.

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And I wasn't hearing a lot from my parents.

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They were very disconnected from me in early life.

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I was really kind of left to my own devices.

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And I really leaned into that inner voice and kept listening and kept listening and

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kept listening.

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And then I learned to trust it because when I listened to the inner voice and

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trusted it and did,

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I won't say that was guiding me to anything,

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but just I acted on the information that it was offering.

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It always worked.

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I defied odds.

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I defied some significant odds in life listening to the inner voice more than

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listening to what was being said to me by authority figures,

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for example.

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I just kept doing that and doing that and doing that and getting bigger and bigger

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and bigger life results as a result of doing that.

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I didn't even know what channeling was for many, many years.

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And then somebody said, you're a channel.

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I went to see a psychic.

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And if you've been listening to this for a long time,

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you've heard this story a million times,

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so I won't go too deep into it.

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But the psychic said, you're a channel.

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This is what channeling is.

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And this is someone you may want to listen to.

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And the someone that she suggested was Abraham Hicks.

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And I initially was very turned off by that.

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I thought it was weird and it looked like religion to me and I'd already stepped

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away from religion until it sort of kept coming back around to me in a way that I

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felt like I could no longer avoid it.

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And Esther's sharing of Abraham made channeling for me palatable.

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And then I learned how to do it.

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I taught myself how to do it.

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I accepted that, okay, I do have this.

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I understand this information that's being shared.

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And I understand it a little differently.

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And I'm going to go out and I'm going to start sharing my own version of it.

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And where is this coming from?

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And where it was coming from was what I call source.

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And I think we're all source.

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I think we're all expressions of source.

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So we surely have access to this information, but not all at the same level, obviously.

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So that's where the stream of David came from.

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That's why there's not a name that is this entity that is a former human or some

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sort of deity or an alien.

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It's never been that.

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It has always been a stream of consciousness that's coming from me, the stream of David.

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And what came from the stream

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was the operating system that we now call TIA.

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And I think the value of everything that's been offered from them is not in what

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they're offering as much as the system that we've all created together to practice

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what they're telling us.

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which is the more you appreciate things,

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the more you understand things,

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the more you focus on the things that you want to experience and an authentic

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belief that they're already yours,

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then your life is going to get better and better and better as a result of that.

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So that's what Taya is.

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So why do we need me to go into trance to tell you that same thing over and over again now?

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And I'm asking you that question because I know you still want to hear from them.

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Welcome to being a guest on this podcast.

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Well, thank you.

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Yeah, so I know that's a good point.

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And I think that as you're saying all this,

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I think that there are...

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So to answer the question as best I can,

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I think a lot of the channeling and the stream over my few years of doing this and

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my interactions with the stream...

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has a lot to do with the,

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I think,

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the intention and this sort of work and,

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I guess,

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effort of the receiver.

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So for me,

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when I was going through the boot camp,

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for example,

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I would,

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you know,

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many times people go through these sort of programs,

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they have a bit of an ego battle or they can come face to face with their own

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shadow of their psyche or things like that.

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And we have,

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I went through quite a bit of what I could consider kind of an existential crisis

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when I was in boot camp.

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And I came up to a lot of situations – well,

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not a lot,

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but I think two times I came up to a situation where it was like a showstopper.

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I hit a roadblock.

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I didn't know which way to go.

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And many times when I was kind of needing or looking for or seeking guidance on that,

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I was pretty discerning about,

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is this a question I should ask the stream or is this a question I should ask David

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or one of the coaches or one of my Thai friends?

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And a lot of my decision,

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how I decided that,

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it's sort of like the stream wouldn't really have a human perspective of it.

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They would tell you this sort of kind of lofty, in the clouds, metaphysical kind of perspective.

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And if that helped get clarity, then that was very useful.

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I could get clarity many times from the stream that I couldn't get through any

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other human that was kind of still looking at it through their own sort of like

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opinions.

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However,

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if it was like I'm down in the dumps that one day and I couldn't figure out how to

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do it or if it was a human thing I was going through.

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then talking to like a friend like hey how do you deal with this how do you where's

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you know like uh how do you detune stuff or you know like more uh hands-on human

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approach what it would would help with that so i use both and that's why um when

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you hear me say like i still like the stream to be around it's because there's that

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aspect from the stream that you're not going to get from someone who's

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still got their human mind very present.

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Now,

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here's the catch though,

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and I can see this,

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that there are people out there who don't do the work on themselves and don't do

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the practice and don't really look inside

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and then go to the stream for the answer because they're too either lazy or don't

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have enough guts to actually work on themselves.

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So for me,

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when I was going through the practice,

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it was like when I was like in one of those roadblocks,

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first step was like internal searching and asking my own inner guidance.

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if that was not getting anywhere then i would go to like the stream or a coach but

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i was always go internal first go for myself in my own thinking so i think if a

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person is very genuine in that the stream has a great place however if they're

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looking for like a shaman to like read my tarot or something like that then that's

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not going to work because you're just it's kind of like it's like an empire strikes

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back with like

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luke skywalker goes into that swamp and dagobah and he goes to take his lightsaber

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and yoda says you don't need your weapons he says what's in there only what you

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take with you it's a bit like that if you go to the stream you're still taking

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yourself to the stream but so that's that's my opinion about it that's why i'm i'm

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not i mean i could see that the

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the channeling the trans channeling can be like a crutch for some for many actually

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well that's that's exactly because the stream is still very present i i do an hour

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a day of quiet contemplation where i absolutely am accessing that anytime i'm

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teaching if you do the sunday you come to the sunday lives about 10 or 15 minutes

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into that live you're getting that you're still getting it it's coming from my

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perspective generally every once in a while the we comes out

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automatically doing that, which is interesting.

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And it's so funny because this newer concept,

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newer mainstream concept of being non-binary is changing pronouns and all of that.

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And all of a sudden,

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I go from he,

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I to they,

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them,

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we,

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and it has nothing to do with my gender or identity or anything like that.

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It's simply that just starts to flow sometimes.

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So I'm not saying it doesn't still happen.

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I don't want to create dependency on that.

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We have created an academy.

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We have layers and levels of learning Taya from just starting out

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and beginning to figure out what conscious creation is to what I believe is the

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forefront,

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the leading edge of this type of thought,

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especially at our mastermind level.

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And we like to share that here on this podcast as well.

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So we give you all of it.

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And some of it may be so far out there that it just sounds weird or crazy or I'm

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nowhere near that yet.

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But if it's intriguing to you and if it's something that you want to give power to,

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then it's something that's going to have value for you.

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But not everybody is here on the same journey.

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I do not believe in a one size fits all.

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There's no evidence of that, right?

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There's no evidence that there's a one size fits all way of being, way of operating your life.

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There are atheists that are living perfectly happy,

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joyful,

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abundant lives that don't believe in anything.

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outside of what they see as concrete.

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There are religious people that are doing the same,

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and there are spiritual people that are going to like an Abraham Hicks weekend,

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and they're very happy in that space,

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and maybe they stay in that space forever,

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as long as they're physically manifested,

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or maybe they do that for a while and then move on to something else.

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I tend to,

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I've noticed that an aspect of my persona is that I get bored with things and I

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need something new,

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something more.

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And I moved through all these different levels.

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It started out being very just introspective for me because I didn't have access to

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metaphysical books or ideas or thoughts in the 1970s and 1980s growing up in small

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town Louisiana.

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And

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I grew up in an environment where anything along those lines would be considered

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demonic or witchcraft and was not available to me anywhere that I'm aware of.

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So I started out there.

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And then I started sampling other thoughts and ideas and reading books and studying

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other teachers and gathering from them.

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And I sort of took a lot of that as far as I could take it.

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And then I, as I explained earlier, was turned on to channeling, avoided that for a while.

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Then I really dove deep into the Abraham Hicks world.

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That was very helpful for a while.

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And then I sort of reached a plateau with that where,

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okay,

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coming to these Saturdays and listening to the tapes over and over again,

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have taken me to this space, but I know there's more than this.

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And that's why I started sharing the stream,

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not to be the next Abraham and not to criticize Abraham.

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I've always said that, that I referenced them a lot

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Because it was such a transformative part of my journey.

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And a lot of people in our world have been through that journey as well.

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But I needed to know, okay, what's beyond this?

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Because there's got to be something more than just this message.

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This message is right for someone who is in this space.

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But I needed a system.

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I needed a system to actually make those ideas a way of life.

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And so...

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I went deeper into the value of low vibration because that's really what emerged

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from my channeling was,

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hey,

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don't think that you just have to be high vibe all the time like so many people are

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saying that are starting to explore conscious creation.

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Low vibe has a lot of value.

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And it's never going to completely go away.

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You're never going to be completely finished with your low vibe experiences because

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there's a lot of expansive value in low vibration.

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So why don't we focus on all of that?

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And then from that emerged from my creative mind and the other people that were

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creating what we now call Taya With Me were the four pillars that we operate our

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lives on.

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And that has proven over these years to be everything that we really need to be on

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this ever expanding journey.

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Well,

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now I've expanded to the point where the stream is so integrated that I can teach

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and it can flow when I really let loose and allow it to.

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But.

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the trance aspect of it,

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meaning when I sit and breathe and do the we are here and kind of start speaking

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from that perspective,

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I just don't feel like I need to do that anymore.

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It just needs to happen naturally.

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And we need to appreciate that it's natural.

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And I think that the reason that I don't want to do it anymore the way that I've

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done it,

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well,

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there's two things.

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One,

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thanks to technology, we have years of recordings of that already.

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There's an entire book written from that perspective that will always be.

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The Thai practice book is channeled material.

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So you get that perspective in the book and you hear it in the audio book.

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I am in channeling mode in that book.

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And,

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do we need me to keep doing that or can we move on and focus on okay now let's take

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taya and let's continue practicing taya to the point where it's not just a practice

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it's now an operating system that's new language as of this past year that we're

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calling it an operating system it's more than just a mindset practice it's a

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full-blown

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foundational operating system that you can run your life with.

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Let's run with that.

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Nobody else is doing that.

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Let's do that.

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Let's focus on that.

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And let's create these different levels inside our academy that allow people to

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apply this from the book,

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from this podcast,

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from YouTube,

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Be intrigued by it.

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See that it works.

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Decide to give it power because everything has the power that you choose to give to it.

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And then if you really want to keep giving it power,

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go deeper and deeper and deeper into training with it,

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which is where the academy level comes in.

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And that's where being able to go really deep with it,

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own your own as you did,

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have your own trials and errors with it.

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And the errors and the trials are really where the magic is.

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You learn that in boot camp.

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And then come back around and talk to your community.

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Talk to the friends that you're making that are also practicing this in your community.

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Talk to the coaches that are talking about this stuff all the time.

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Talk to me.

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I live it all the time, every day.

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It's my whole life and it's my life's work.

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And then decide, okay, I've done the intensive program.

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I've installed this as an operating system.

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Now, where do I want to go in terms of

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What do I want to do next?

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Do I want to just take this and go live my life with it?

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And we've had plenty of people that have done that and they report back years later

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that they're still utilizing it and they will for the rest of their lives and

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they're very happy at the level they're at.

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Or do I want to go on for another year in some sort of a training program?

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Or do I want to get in a mastermind and help create this at the kind of the highest

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level of thought and really help create it for the rest of humanity that is aligned

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with it?

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Whenever I talk about creating community and expanding community and creating this

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sort of mesh or this Taya matrix,

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it's not about indoctrinating all of humanity into Taya.

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It never will be that.

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But it is about expanding our reach to appeal to more and more people that are

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asking for something like this,

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that are aligned with it.

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Always understanding that anyone that comes into our world,

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you're always choosing your next step.

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It's always up to you what you choose,

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how deep you want to go,

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whether you want to invest money in your practice or not,

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how deep you want to go in installing this.

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And we're very, very, very clear about that.

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So if we're doing that at that high level and I've got six plus years of podcasts

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where I've off and on channeled,

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I've got an entire book where the whole message is contained there.

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if I continue to do this trance channeling and do workshops and seminars where

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people are coming to hear from the stream,

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do we really need that?

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I'm not saying I'm never going to do it again.

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I'm just throwing an idea out there that this is kind of where I am right now,

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that I am moving on from the stream of David.

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It's the foundational,

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it's never going to go away,

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but you know,

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the stream of David is no longer the title of this podcast.

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intentionally because the stream of David has delivered clarity for us.

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We know what that source-driven message is, and it's not very complicated.

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It's pretty damn simple.

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Source is appreciation of all things, period.

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And if you want creation to happen in your life,

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creation is always going to happen in the space of appreciation,

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not fear,

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not judgment,

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not worry,

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not doubt,

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not resistance,

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period.

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So then the hard part is,

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okay,

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we've been brought up in this matrix that operates in opposition to that,

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really opposite of that.

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How do we continually detune the matrix,

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detune our ego,

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shrinking those things to their proper perspective and allow ourselves to live more

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source-driven lives for the rest of our lives?

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I mean, I think you made a point earlier about not wanting to create dependency.

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on the stream and i i feel like that's kind of the responsibility of the consumer

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actually because you know i could become dependent on you know uh i could go back

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and listen to all the podcasts and okay let me put this way if i'm going if i'm

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listening to the stream or listening to the podcast with the mindset of

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I don't know what I'm doing and I can't figure it out.

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So I'm going to go somewhere else for help because I don't trust my own sort of guidance.

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Well, that would be kind of misguided and I could see that backfire.

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But if I'm looking for more clarity,

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because there are things I don't understand,

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there are still things that,

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um,

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you know uh there's there's more layers to find and i think that that's a very

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valid useful tool i think there's some merit also to keeping the practice and the

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whole approach very pure uh because and as as simple as possible because um

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Sometimes when our egos get involved, we like to overcomplicate things.

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We start to add stuff.

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Well,

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some people like something that sounds very mystical and complicated and use a lot

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of scientific language.

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And the stream has always said the universe is actually very simple.

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Yeah.

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All creation is a product of consciousness first and consciousness is impacted by polarity.

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Yeah.

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as a growth as an expansion tool really but we don't understand polarity here

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because we're so busy judging the challenge oh life is so hard earth is so terrible

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humans are so evil you know we have all these labels that the matrix throws out

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there and it's so prevalent yeah the ones high up i think really in the mastermind

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group like the coaches like me and you and like derek and matt like all of us carry

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we're all really in this i don't think we're doing that we're like

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Why do I still think that way?

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Oh, well, yeah.

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That's the goal here is to not blame external sources for anything.

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Because when you're doing that, you're giving your power away.

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And anybody that's interested in this practice or this operating system,

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I should say,

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because it's morphing from a practice to an operating system.

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Anybody that's interested in this...

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needs to understand that that should be where you want to go.

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If you're into this, if you're not into it, it's so easy to step away from it.

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I get critics all the time on social media.

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Oh, this is a cult.

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This sounds like X, Y, Z. You're ripping off somebody else.

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I hear all of that stuff.

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And they haven't even bothered to really learn what it's all about.

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They're just being internet trolls and trolls do what they do.

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But understanding that

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We're not trying to recruit people into this saying that this is the only way and

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that everybody should do this this way.

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I'm very clear that this is creative for people like all of us who have explored

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and been on a journey and now want a foundational system to operate their lives by

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that allow you to function on that journey and continue to expand in your journey

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for the rest of your life.

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That's why we say fall in love with the work because you're never finished with it.

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There's always going to be some other level,

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but it's not always the external things as much as it's inward,

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inward,

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inward,

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inward.

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This practice starts taking you really deep inward and you start to activate your

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own version of source and get your own clarity.

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But it's okay to come back around and say, okay, I'm getting from...

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my quiet contemplation time that this is the path to detune or get to this next

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level what do you all think there's a lot of value in that group thought absolutely

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there is yeah

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Well,

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when I first started listening to your podcast back in 2019,

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the thing that actually convinced me that the stream was legit is because they said

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very explicitly,

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if this doesn't make sense to you,

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you're right to walk away.

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And that to me is kind of like the gold standard with any sort of teaching is this

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idea that if this isn't a fit for you,

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There's no mandates.

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You don't have to do this.

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Well, there's a lot of power in creating a mandate.

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We see that in religion.

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Believe this or you're going to burn in hell, that sort of thing.

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But I just have not found that to be true.

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So how in the world could I possibly utilize that in a spiritually-based,

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which has now become a psychology-based slash scientific-based because we see

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elements of all of those things

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we see the value in all of those things coming into the practice or the system and

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my meeting michael was certainly no accident and michael and i sort of coming at it

(00:26:41):
from different perspectives you know he's a psychologist but he is a

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mindfulness-based psychologist for sure but he sees the value for someone who is

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choosing to believe this and give this power

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in going beyond radical acceptance to radical appreciation.

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That's where psychology and therapy and all of those things have to stop because

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they don't know what your belief system is.

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They're not impeding on religious beliefs and things like that.

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And so they're not going to tell somebody who has suffered PTSD to appreciate the

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thing that's causing the PTSD.

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And I understand why they stopped there.

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And that's the psychology has its place.

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Therapy has its place.

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because we're not that we have the the the luxury is probably not the best word but

(00:27:32):
we have the advantage of going beyond that to hey why not full-blown appreciation

(00:27:38):
of that thing oh but it was so terrible it was so traumatic you don't understand

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how horrible well you know i do understand even if i haven't personally experienced

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exactly what someone else experienced

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I absolutely have experienced things that people would say were traumatic experiences.

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Yeah.

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In my lifetime, I've had a knife pulled on me.

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I've had a gun pulled on me.

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I've had a mother tell me that she wishes I was never born and wishes I was dead

(00:28:08):
and didn't speak to me for the last part of her life.

(00:28:10):
I've had unsavory things happen in my life.

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So I have been there.

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I have been flat broke not knowing where my next meal was coming from.

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I have experienced these things.

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So...

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I could very easily look at those things and choose the victim path and say those

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were terrible,

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awful,

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horrible things.

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I have had,

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for lack of better terminology,

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I've had sexual encounters with adults when I was a young child.

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I've had those things happen.

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I could choose to look at those things as something that I was a victim of,

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but I've just really never chosen that.

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And what it does is it's allowed me to reframe all of those things as just

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experiences that I moved through.

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And some of them were terrifying in the moment, painful, hard to move through.

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But gosh,

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every single thing that I endure and move through,

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I understand now expands my consciousness,

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makes me a wiser version of me because now I know what it's like.

(00:29:11):
And I've had the experience and I'm just choosing not to judge it as something that

(00:29:15):
shouldn't have happened or should not be or shouldn't exist.

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outgrown spirituality,

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You are promised peace and prosperity.

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Religion took your power away and told you how to live.

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Spirituality promised a new earth that never materialized.

(00:29:41):
And Law of Attraction turned creation into a shopping list in order to feel worthy.

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But now you're standing out in the wilderness,

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not knowing what to believe,

(00:29:51):
but knowing that there must be more truth out there than that.

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And there is.

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There's part of me,

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when you want to teach this to other people,

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and when I left my corporate job to do this full time,

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there was part of my ego that wanted to share this with the world from a very

(00:30:46):
ego-driven perspective of,

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wow,

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I really have the answers to everything.

(00:30:50):
I still feel like I do, but I understand now it's not my place to share that with the world.

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I could very easily be a guru who is on social media with a million followers doing

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what those folks do,

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but they're also creating dependency on that message to get that level of

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following,

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and they're keeping it in a certain lane.

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And that lane works.

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And I'm not saying they're bad.

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I'm saying that lane exists to serve people who are in that stage,

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whether those people choose to be in that stage indefinitely or if it's just a

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phase that serves them.

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I think that they all exist for a reason.

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They're all great.

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Keep doing what you're doing.

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What you're doing is wonderful.

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Not everyone is going to continue to move through...

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I'm sounding very arrogant again here,

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but...

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I can acknowledge that everyone that's in our world has sampled these things and

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experienced them and moved through them.

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And then they sort of get to this point where, okay, I want to know what's next, what's more.

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And,

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That's our people, right?

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And everybody's not there and not everybody's going to get there.

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But those are our folks.

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And that's who we're here for.

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And I can't be here for them and still be trying to save people from themselves or

(00:32:10):
teach Law of Attraction 101 or I heard a term the other day,

(00:32:15):
love bomb people.

(00:32:15):
Sometimes I'm on these podcasts and I'll hear it.

(00:32:18):
Hi, everyone.

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We love you so much.

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Hi, lovely, beautiful souls and all that stuff.

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And I'm kind of like, okay, you know, if that's your thing, that's cool.

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But that's, you know, I...

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I understand the need for people to feel that loving warmth and that nurturing sometimes.

(00:32:36):
I have needed that at times,

(00:32:38):
not in a long time,

(00:32:39):
but I have been there where I needed that from something.

(00:32:41):
If you're not getting it from your family and you're not giving it to yourself,

(00:32:45):
it feels good to hear it from somebody else.

(00:32:47):
Our message is always,

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let's teach you how to do that for yourself so that you don't need that from

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anybody else.

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And maybe that's just not where you are.

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And I, again, 2019, I said it, I'm still saying it in 2026.

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If that's not where you are and this isn't for you,

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then you're right to turn it off and walk away from it.

(00:33:05):
You're just not at the space in your.

(00:33:07):
and wherever you are and maybe you're believing that you're beyond this and that's

(00:33:11):
okay too but this is this is our lane this is what we do and i would rather stay in

(00:33:16):
this lane and do this better than anybody that i'm aware of to the best of my

(00:33:20):
ability because i believe that's how we're serving the people that choose this as

(00:33:25):
their system yeah no that's all fair i think it makes sense i think the main i see

(00:33:33):
you know i'm thinking like what are the sort of two most

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common struggles I see with the people and like in the,

(00:33:43):
in the clients I work with in the,

(00:33:44):
in the price exchange program,

(00:33:46):
and then conversations I had with other Thai folk is that I think the two areas

(00:33:50):
that seem to come up the most are,

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um,

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sustaining the practice as in doing the work.

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Maybe Matt has said many times,

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like when you feel like things are going well and you're really like,

(00:34:05):
you know, like you're on a roll, that's when you keep doing the practice.

(00:34:10):
Well, the problem is when life gets really good, then we think, oh, this is great.

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I'm going to really relax around my practice.

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And then it starts to fall apart and you suddenly need to get back in.

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And the spin out, that's called a spin out and spin out's part of it.

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Yeah.

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You know,

(00:34:23):
there's always some area of my life where I am spun out and I will always tell all

(00:34:26):
of you where I'm spun out.

(00:34:28):
Right now, it is not in happiness.

(00:34:30):
It is not in relationships.

(00:34:31):
It is not financial at all.

(00:34:33):
Right now where I'm spun out is health.

(00:34:36):
I put a lot of weight back on during COVID and I was really getting back into shape

(00:34:40):
at the beginning of last year.

(00:34:41):
And then I got so hyper focused on creating this new technology that we're using

(00:34:48):
now that is wonderful.

(00:34:52):
I got so hyper focused on that, I started letting the health go again.

(00:34:56):
And now in 2026,

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my intention for this year is,

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okay,

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we've created,

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not I,

(00:35:01):
we,

(00:35:02):
we have created this incredible technology where anybody can go to tieacademy.com,

(00:35:07):
take that little three question survey,

(00:35:09):
and it starts you on a journey.

(00:35:12):
into our world and you can and if you get derailed,

(00:35:16):
if you spin out of our world,

(00:35:18):
you can go right back to tie academy dot com and start over again.

(00:35:21):
And then it's going to logically take you.

(00:35:24):
There's all this conditional logic that's built into it now that's logically going

(00:35:29):
to take you where you want to go next,

(00:35:31):
depending on how deep you want to go,

(00:35:34):
how committed you are to going there and how ready you are to invest money or not

(00:35:39):
in it.

(00:35:40):
And there is a path for everyone.

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And so I love that we've built that because we're serving everybody in terms of

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readiness,

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financial ability,

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and just willingness to really put time into this.

(00:35:56):
So our system is built now for that,

(00:35:58):
but it took a long time and a whole lot of work to get it all built.

(00:36:02):
And I got so excited and so hyper-focused on that, that I stopped going to the gym

(00:36:08):
And my eating, which was so clean, kind of unraveled a little bit.

(00:36:12):
And my body is giving me feedback of that now that,

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hey,

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you know,

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you need to focus on your health a little more.

(00:36:18):
So that's my thing now where I'm spun out that I will start paying attention to.

(00:36:22):
And as soon as I get that plate spinning, something else will spin out.

(00:36:25):
But I love this because I know that that's how creation occurs.

(00:36:33):
That stress testing happens.

(00:36:36):
your system on a continual basis is why low vibration exists and why we always have

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challenges no matter what.

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I promise you,

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the people that are placed on a pedestal as being the most successful humans we

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know of,

(00:36:51):
the Elon Musks,

(00:36:53):
the Jeff Bezos,

(00:36:54):
the Beyonce's of the world,

(00:36:56):
all of those people have plenty of things stressing them out in their lives or at

(00:37:02):
least creating challenges in their lives right now.

(00:37:07):
Everybody does.

(00:37:08):
We're all here for that.

(00:37:10):
As soon as you check off all the boxes that the matrix tells you you're supposed to

(00:37:14):
check off,

(00:37:15):
you've got money,

(00:37:16):
you've got security,

(00:37:17):
you're educated,

(00:37:18):
you're intelligent,

(00:37:19):
you're meditating,

(00:37:20):
you're grounded,

(00:37:21):
your relationships.

(00:37:22):
As soon as you think everything is working,

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something is going to happen that's going to challenge you yet again.

(00:37:28):
And it's very easy to slip back into the,

(00:37:30):
oh gosh,

(00:37:30):
I've done all this work and I've got all these things and I'm really signaling

(00:37:35):
everything the matrix says I'm supposed to be.

(00:37:37):
Why this?

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Why now?

(00:37:38):
Why me?

(00:37:39):
Why a challenge?

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And it's because the universe is designed to continually keep us in a state of

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challenge,

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not in a state of stress,

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because the stress is chosen via the judgment of the challenge.

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It is, yeah, yeah.

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It doesn't have to be stress, but it is, yeah, challenges.

(00:37:58):
That's a good way to put it.

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The other thing that I see a lot in my own personal practice and with my clients is

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people who sometimes –

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They know that there's something standing in the way in their thinking,

(00:38:16):
but they can't see their own operating system enough to really identify where it

(00:38:21):
is.

(00:38:21):
And I do have this with clients sometimes where that's why when I'm doing coaching,

(00:38:26):
I'm 100% focused on listening to like trying to

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listen to the thinking behind whatever they're saying and try to see where the,

(00:38:34):
the thought process of how things are connecting.

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And it's, what I'm talking about is our blind spots.

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We all have blind spots.

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Well,

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it's helpful to have interaction with other people around your blind spots because

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sometimes it's,

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you're so in your own head in your own space that other people can detect things

(00:38:52):
and point things out because they're getting a more limited experience.

(00:38:55):
version of you, they can detect it and pinpoint it better than you can.

(00:38:59):
That's why coaching is so popular now because coaching is very valuable.

(00:39:03):
If you're working with a coach who is sincere and sincerely attempting to assist

(00:39:11):
you in some way rather than just,

(00:39:13):
you know,

(00:39:14):
and that's,

(00:39:16):
that was actually coming back to what we started this whole conversation about.

(00:39:19):
That was the benefit of the stream.

(00:39:21):
because the stream had no agenda for trying to like get me to do one thing to sign

(00:39:27):
up for another coaching or something.

(00:39:28):
Stream was like, I could just say, and that was like my kickoff call with bootcamp.

(00:39:33):
uh i remember like we were the idea was to identify your three root transgressors

(00:39:37):
you're going to work on a boot camp and the stream just said like so what were your

(00:39:40):
early childhood memories and i kind of just went in this like i saw the recording i

(00:39:44):
wouldn't like this 10 minute like sort of like talking of stuff and i i was just

(00:39:48):
sort of going and then they said well you you're right transgressors are blank

(00:39:52):
blank blank and they just like this your three roots and i was like oh

(00:39:56):
where'd she come up with that and they said something like well we just asked you a

(00:40:00):
simple question you talked for 10 minutes and we you know something like that you

(00:40:03):
know but i think that that's the that is the that's the one thing that i i still

(00:40:08):
feel that the channeling can deliver that a human can't because a human is always

(00:40:15):
going to have some subconscious opinion or agenda

(00:40:21):
As much as we have good intentions,

(00:40:23):
like I'm always like when I'm teaching or coaching or anything,

(00:40:25):
it's always to help the student first.

(00:40:29):
And that's my genuine intention.

(00:40:31):
But there's still every human is going to have some subliminal subconscious.

(00:40:38):
I mean, my goal in my channeling was always to get my ego out of there completely was the goal.

(00:40:44):
And I think by and large, my channel, there wasn't.

(00:40:47):
much david left at all there but i do see with other channels that and i and i

(00:40:55):
would be remiss to say that i have any ego there because i see that in other

(00:40:58):
channels where there's definitely a line they won't cross and that's the ego back

(00:41:05):
there not wanting to go into certain topics

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Right.

(00:41:12):
Limiting the channel message.

(00:41:13):
And I believe in the purity of I can't speak about every channel.

(00:41:18):
I haven't listened to every channel.

(00:41:19):
You know,

(00:41:19):
the channels that I listen to,

(00:41:21):
I know that like Abraham Hicks,

(00:41:24):
for example,

(00:41:25):
still has some Christian.

(00:41:28):
There's some of Esther's maybe Christian,

(00:41:32):
I don't even know if it's upbringing,

(00:41:34):
but it's sort of a Christian,

(00:41:35):
at least adjacent belief system.

(00:41:37):
When I used to listen to it,

(00:41:38):
I haven't listened to it in a while,

(00:41:39):
that was still a little woven into that.

(00:41:41):
And I think it's because they were speaking to an audience

(00:41:44):
That was probably a post-Christian audience by and large.

(00:41:48):
And they were being,

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and I'm not saying that this is,

(00:41:50):
you know,

(00:41:52):
malintent at all,

(00:41:53):
but they're understanding who their audience is and still projecting to that

(00:41:57):
audience in a way that they can receive it,

(00:41:59):
which is not bad.

(00:42:01):
Again,

(00:42:01):
that's probably why it worked for me at that time is that in the beginning,

(00:42:05):
I thought it was very Christian.

(00:42:06):
And I realized, okay, this isn't really that.

(00:42:07):
They just sort of market it that way.

(00:42:09):
Because that ask in his given book cover seemed very Christian.

(00:42:14):
He has the dove flying and all that stuff.

(00:42:16):
And so once I detuned my judgment of that, I got into it.

(00:42:21):
But I still heard that woven into Abraham's message.

(00:42:25):
And then I, again, seek to detune judgment when I discover judgment.

(00:42:30):
Okay, they're speaking to a certain type of audience here.

(00:42:34):
They're not trying to be a one-size-fits-all, nor should you be.

(00:42:38):
to everyone because they're just we're not in a one size fits all world.

(00:42:41):
So that makes sense.

(00:42:42):
So I understand what you're saying,

(00:42:43):
because the David mind is always going to say,

(00:42:47):
you know,

(00:42:47):
there's value in Thai Academy.

(00:42:50):
There's value in taking that because I do believe there is.

(00:42:53):
But I think for someone who's new to this,

(00:42:58):
you can't help in this day and age but think,

(00:43:01):
OK,

(00:43:02):
this guy's just trying to get me to take his expensive program.

(00:43:06):
Yeah, that's what I thought.

(00:43:12):
We have a very expensive program.

(00:43:14):
And that supports this work.

(00:43:17):
And I like to be very transparent about that.

(00:43:20):
That's okay.

(00:43:21):
I like to be transparent about it because it's okay for you to be skeptical because

(00:43:25):
there's certainly...

(00:43:25):
I have...

(00:43:28):
rubbed elbows with lots of people in the coaching industry.

(00:43:31):
And of course, that industry was already well on its growth pattern when I got into it.

(00:43:38):
I was skeptical of it.

(00:43:40):
When I got on the person that taught me how to do a coaching online coaching,

(00:43:45):
I was very like,

(00:43:46):
oh,

(00:43:46):
no,

(00:43:47):
no,

(00:43:47):
no,

(00:43:47):
I'm not going to be that.

(00:43:48):
I'm not going to be one of those cheesy coaches that's teaching people to get rich quick.

(00:43:52):
We can, you know, no, no, no, no.

(00:43:54):
I remember the videos I used to see of these folks and I'm not going to be in front

(00:43:56):
of the Lamborghini.

(00:43:58):
I'm going to teach you how to be a millionaire, you know, and she handled me so well.

(00:44:03):
I was so and I knew she was handling me, but I was so impressed in the moment.

(00:44:06):
She kind of said, actually, you need to go meditate about this.

(00:44:10):
And she really put me in my place.

(00:44:12):
And I got off the meeting and I went and meditated about it.

(00:44:15):
And I'm not kidding to this day.

(00:44:17):
I've told the story a million times.

(00:44:19):
The stream came through and the message was, hey, dumbass.

(00:44:23):
You want to teach people how to make this what we now call a system because you're

(00:44:28):
a systems guy.

(00:44:29):
You want to take all these lofty teachings and make it a daily system.

(00:44:33):
This is how you do that.

(00:44:35):
Stop being judgmental of this.

(00:44:37):
Stop being fearful around money.

(00:44:40):
I gave her $15,000.

(00:44:42):
I took her program and I never look back.

(00:44:45):
I don't regret it.

(00:44:47):
I would pay $100,000 for that now easily.

(00:44:50):
I do feel there's an honesty in the stream.

(00:44:52):
I don't talk about other channels.

(00:44:52):
I don't want the stream.

(00:44:54):
I feel there's an honesty in the stream that you're never going to get from a human.

(00:44:58):
And that was the other thing,

(00:45:00):
too,

(00:45:00):
is I never asked the stream anything that I wasn't prepared for a brutally honest

(00:45:07):
answer.

(00:45:08):
And I was prepared that they could tell me something I really don't like.

(00:45:12):
Yeah.

(00:45:13):
Yeah,

(00:45:14):
the deal I made with them,

(00:45:15):
because the first time I channeled ever was the very first episode of this podcast.

(00:45:22):
It used to be called the Stream of David,

(00:45:23):
but now you find it as the Taya podcast,

(00:45:26):
not the Taya practice podcast.

(00:45:28):
That's something we did for a minute and stopped.

(00:45:30):
There's only a handful of episodes of that.

(00:45:32):
the taya podcast is is the podcast that used to be the stream of david and so there

(00:45:36):
are people uh robin who just graduated uh high stakes change she went back and

(00:45:41):
listened from day one and is listening to the entire people do that yeah if you

(00:45:46):
want to hear the whole journey of the stream from the very first time i channeled

(00:45:51):
through all of the iterations of hey i'm doing a boot camp and hey it's called

(00:45:56):
In the beginning,

(00:45:56):
it was called abundance breakthroughs and then it was Taya and then it was this and

(00:45:59):
it was that.

(00:45:59):
And then my house burned down.

(00:46:00):
And,

(00:46:01):
you know,

(00:46:01):
all of these things that I went through in my journey to arriving here,

(00:46:06):
that's all archived.

(00:46:07):
If you're interested in all of that, it's there.

(00:46:09):
Yeah.

(00:46:10):
So it's you brought up a very interesting point.

(00:46:14):
I'm glad that you did it.

(00:46:15):
Maybe that's something that we need to think about.

(00:46:18):
If you feel like you are best served from hearing from trance channeling that is

(00:46:23):
brutally honest,

(00:46:24):
because my trance channeling could absolutely get me into a lot of trouble.

(00:46:29):
Yeah.

(00:46:30):
And I don't care, but you know, it's, it's, they'll be very honest about things.

(00:46:37):
That's always why I ask.

(00:46:38):
Cause I would rather the honest smack in the face.

(00:46:42):
Yeah.

(00:46:42):
than to not know.

(00:46:44):
Yeah.

(00:46:45):
And I believe I'm capable of doing that without trance,

(00:46:48):
just like I'm capable of sitting here talking about pricing and coaching programs

(00:46:52):
and what's real and what isn't and what you should do,

(00:46:54):
you know,

(00:46:55):
all of that,

(00:46:56):
that most people in my position don't ever talk about.

(00:46:58):
Right.

(00:46:59):
I still,

(00:47:00):
I do feel there's space for the channeling in going forward in the practice for

(00:47:08):
that reason,

(00:47:09):
like a sailor cat keeps the North star.

(00:47:13):
insight you know and there is value to that because that and i think i what i think

(00:47:19):
it sounds to me like what we want to steer away from is the gimmicky showmanship

(00:47:25):
aspect of it i have talked about internally recently about creating this sort of

(00:47:31):
taya network or mesh or matrix whatever you want to call it and it's about

(00:47:39):
exposing this to more and more people who will be aligned with it.

(00:47:44):
And we're doing more marketing and ads and things right now just to reach more people.

(00:47:49):
And the reason that we're doing that is not to convert people to Thaiism and say

(00:47:54):
that this is the only way you have to do it.

(00:47:56):
But I do see value and I've detuned my judgment of spending money on things like

(00:48:00):
that because I haven't in a long,

(00:48:01):
long time.

(00:48:02):
But now I see that we've built this fantastic technology and I want more people coming into it.

(00:48:08):
that are aligned with it, because I think there's value in this, not just for us individually.

(00:48:14):
And I know this is my ego.

(00:48:16):
I believe there is value in this for more and more and more of humanity to practice this.

(00:48:24):
The stream would not say that more and more of humans need to practice this.

(00:48:29):
The stream will say,

(00:48:30):
as you become wiser versions of yourselves,

(00:48:33):
more and more people are going to do something along these lines.

(00:48:36):
Understand that appreciation of all things is really where it's at.

(00:48:40):
But everyone is on their own journey and not everybody's on that path and not

(00:48:45):
everybody is,

(00:48:48):
people need to find their own way to it.

(00:48:50):
Yeah.

(00:48:51):
So the stream would say, just do your thing.

(00:48:55):
And I've done that for years.

(00:48:56):
Just do your thing and the right people will find their way to it.

(00:48:59):
And I did that.

(00:49:01):
And now I'm changing my tune a little bit by saying, but my ego still wants to do more of this.

(00:49:08):
I don't want to just be organic because when I go do a TikTok,

(00:49:12):
I know how to get a lot of views on TikTok and it's to sort of play the victim

(00:49:17):
thing.

(00:49:17):
You know, oh, they're out to get you.

(00:49:19):
Everyone's out to get you.

(00:49:20):
That does very well on TikTok.

(00:49:22):
You know,

(00:49:22):
I've done a couple of videos that kind of frame that a little bit and that's what

(00:49:26):
gets the most views.

(00:49:27):
I don't want to do that.

(00:49:28):
You know,

(00:49:28):
I would rather put a video out that gets a handful of views of people who really

(00:49:32):
get it than it gets a million views.

(00:49:35):
So how is this going to really mesh and grow and expand unless we get more creative

(00:49:43):
with how we share it?

(00:49:46):
Not in a you have to do this way,

(00:49:47):
but I like bringing my human ego and my creative mind back into this and not just

(00:49:53):
saying,

(00:49:53):
hey,

(00:49:53):
man,

(00:49:53):
I'm just going to sit on a mountaintop and I'm going to channel source and people

(00:49:57):
that want to come to the mountaintop can listen and gather around.

(00:50:00):
There's plenty of people doing that.

(00:50:01):
I think that's fine.

(00:50:02):
I don't want to do that.

(00:50:03):
I want to.

(00:50:04):
I have creative abilities.

(00:50:06):
I have knowledge now of technology.

(00:50:09):
I have the funding to be able to to invest in this and put it out there and then

(00:50:15):
exchange that investment with people that want to come and pay for training that's

(00:50:21):
going to benefit them.

(00:50:22):
And that's what the exchange is.

(00:50:24):
And I'm very transparent about that.

(00:50:27):
And the system that we built is designed to be very clear that you invest when you

(00:50:32):
want to invest.

(00:50:33):
You go deeper when you want to go deeper.

(00:50:35):
No one's going to tell you you have to go away from our world because you're not

(00:50:39):
yet ready for any of those things.

(00:50:41):
But we're also creating a path where the academy level work for anybody that really

(00:50:45):
wants to do this will be inevitable.

(00:50:47):
But it will also be something that pays for itself many times over.

(00:50:50):
And we'll demonstrate that over and over and over again.

(00:50:53):
So that's my transparency about coaching and about why things cost money.

(00:50:59):
A lot of people think anything spiritual should never cost money.

(00:51:03):
If I do anything that's sponsored right now on Meta,

(00:51:05):
oh,

(00:51:06):
this is just a sales pitch for your thing.

(00:51:09):
Well, yeah, I'm sharing my thing with you.

(00:51:11):
If you want to get in and get involved, then that's why I'm paying for an ad.

(00:51:15):
Of course, what pays for the ads?

(00:51:16):
People that choose to take the bigger programs.

(00:51:19):
What do they get from the bigger programs?

(00:51:20):
We always ensure that we're delivering

(00:51:23):
many times the investment in terms of what you get back.

(00:51:27):
And I have a trust pilot that keeps us honest with that.

(00:51:31):
You know,

(00:51:32):
the sentiment I would kind of,

(00:51:34):
I guess,

(00:51:35):
wrap up along that about the money thing is when people do say that,

(00:51:38):
you know,

(00:51:38):
as you said,

(00:51:39):
like they judge the fact that you

(00:51:41):
Yeah, it should all be free.

(00:51:42):
I should manifest my money.

(00:51:44):
And I've done that for years.

(00:51:45):
I have lived years where I shared this and never took a dime from it.

(00:51:48):
So I've lived that.

(00:51:49):
I know I can do that.

(00:51:51):
But do I want to keep doing that or do I want to turbocharge it?

(00:51:53):
What were you going to say?

(00:51:54):
I apologize.

(00:51:54):
Well,

(00:51:55):
the quote comes from Wallace Wattles,

(00:51:59):
one of his books,

(00:52:01):
I think it was Science of Being Great or something like that.

(00:52:07):
If you take the analogy of a book,

(00:52:09):
i have a book and i sell it at the store for 20 how much money did it cost for the

(00:52:15):
paper and the ink it's like pennies and i've made a huge profit is that fair but if

(00:52:21):
the ideas give the reader the ability to make millions of dollars and they only

(00:52:26):
spend 20 dollars in the book is that fair what's the

(00:52:30):
actually it doesn't matter if the if you get a profit from something but it

(00:52:34):
benefits the reviewer the the the consumer if they take it and they better

(00:52:39):
themselves for it it's fine um if i coerce someone to buy my book that's not of any

(00:52:45):
value then maybe i have wronged them but if i make you know then but but this is

(00:52:49):
not i i've been nothing i don't i don't believe anything survives for years that is

(00:52:55):
just a i just want to take people's money

(00:52:59):
I know a lot of coaches and a lot of people that are functioning,

(00:53:02):
making millions of dollars coaching.

(00:53:04):
It's a very lucrative thing to do.

(00:53:07):
And there's a lot of people in it.

(00:53:08):
Most people don't get there.

(00:53:10):
And a lot of people that get there thinking,

(00:53:12):
I'm just doing this because I know I can make a lot of money doing it.

(00:53:16):
Those folks don't stick around very long because if you don't have what we call

(00:53:20):
social proof that your thing works,

(00:53:23):
people are going to be very concerned about investing money in it.

(00:53:27):
And they should be.

(00:53:29):
And the last thing I would ever want to do is take somebody's money knowing that

(00:53:33):
I'm not going to give them 10 times that value or more back.

(00:53:39):
When I was in retail,

(00:53:40):
there were absolutely people sitting around that boardroom with me in retail that

(00:53:43):
only cared about the bottom line.

(00:53:46):
And I told everyone that worked for me that everything is an exchange.

(00:53:51):
And once we take somebody's money, it's our job to make them happy.

(00:53:57):
Some people you're never going to make happy.

(00:53:58):
That's just the way it is.

(00:53:59):
That's a small percentage.

(00:54:01):
Most people,

(00:54:01):
if we've taken their money,

(00:54:03):
it is our job now to make them happy,

(00:54:05):
to deliver on the promise.

(00:54:07):
And if you don't deliver on the promise in today's world, you're out of business pretty quickly.

(00:54:12):
That's just the way it is.

(00:54:14):
And that includes the coaching industry.

(00:54:16):
The coaching industry is maturing now.

(00:54:18):
It blew up.

(00:54:18):
It started before COVID.

(00:54:20):
It absolutely blew up during COVID.

(00:54:22):
And now we've seen the fallout from it.

(00:54:25):
The people that survived,

(00:54:27):
that blew up during COVID,

(00:54:29):
that survived post-COVID,

(00:54:31):
those people are offering something of real value,

(00:54:33):
in my opinion.

(00:54:35):
in my opinion,

(00:54:36):
because we've proven that we can ride out the peak and then we can ride out the

(00:54:42):
pit,

(00:54:43):
which post-COVID,

(00:54:44):
nobody was doing coaching anymore because everybody did it during COVID.

(00:54:48):
If they had the money and a lot of people had extra money in their pocket and

(00:54:51):
they're bored and they're at home and what do I want to do?

(00:54:53):
I want to work on me.

(00:54:54):
Well, now I've got a few thousand dollars to invest in a program

(00:54:59):
If those programs were worthy,

(00:55:01):
then you were still in business after COVID,

(00:55:04):
after 2022,

(00:55:06):
2023 and beyond.

(00:55:07):
That's my opinion as far as the industry goes.

(00:55:09):
We're way off topic from channeling now, but we brought the humanity back into it.

(00:55:13):
But don't think anybody that is putting anything out there,

(00:55:16):
whether they are doing paid advertising,

(00:55:19):
If they're spending their time doing it, there's an exchange going on of some sort.

(00:55:24):
Don't kid yourself that there's not.

(00:55:25):
They're getting something from it somehow or they simply wouldn't be doing it.

(00:55:29):
We do not live in a just goodness of your heart world because everyone has bills to pay.

(00:55:34):
And I don't know any billionaires that are out there teaching you how to be a billionaire.

(00:55:37):
They're out being bigger billionaires.

(00:55:40):
Yeah.

(00:55:42):
All right.

(00:55:43):
Well, this is a really good conversation as always.

(00:55:45):
We jumped all over the place, but hopefully we've provided some value for all of you listening.

(00:55:49):
Cool.

(00:55:49):
Thanks for having me, David.

(00:55:50):
Certainly.

(00:55:51):
Always good to have you on.

(00:55:52):
I look forward to having you on regularly this year.

(00:55:54):
Cool.

(00:55:55):
Thanks.

(00:55:55):
Looking forward to it.

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