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Where triathlon meets real talk. Hosted by two seasoned triathletes and one Sarah, this podcast takes a deep dive into the controversies, challenges, and triumphs of the triathlete world.
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Speaker 2
Oh.
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Speaker 2
And here we are. Another week, another episode. This is the unfunded podcast episode. What episode? I think 32. Oh, it's starting to lose count now. 32. 33. Yeah, we're getting on. Anyway. 3233, of the unfunded podcast, I'm your host, professional triathlete Lachlan Jones, with my good friend Leighton Wall. Also a professional triathlete. Even though I don't feel like it.
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Speaker 2
That's it. We'll get there, mate. And it's end of the season now. We are probably brought to you again, by official Ricoh. I do not feel like any of them at the moment, if I'm being honest. The GC lager, low carbs. Yeah, that'll be good in your off season that we. So you don't get fat.
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Speaker 2
Yeah, that'd be very good my off season. But we're going to have to keep off season a couple more. Give it a couple more weeks. Because I not think of anything worse than a be right now. No way. No bubbly. Oh I don't I actually don't even want to think about it right now. So do that anyway.
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Speaker 2
Has your way been, big fella? What do you get up to? We missed a week. Yeah, we missed a week. I think we've both been in the same boat with. I've been a bit sick. Yeah, it was a different type of sickness. Yeah. If I had the flu for about a week, it was kind of that awkward time.
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Speaker 2
Well, I was about to go away to race and, like, obviously did the respectful thing. And we didn't want to be close proximity. I had to quarantine myself away, so I just stayed away. Let Lockie go and. Right. So the best thing was not to do a podcast and sit in a room for an hour talking to each other and spreading germs.
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Speaker 2
Yeah. I was a bit sick. And then. Only now I've just got back to, like, doing a bit of training this week. What kind of sick? Just flu. Like a flu? Yeah. I had, like, a mad cough. Oh, yeah. I think there's a fair bit going around the Gold Coast at the moment. Like, I think I probably picked it up from off in Noosa.
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Speaker 2
Yeah. All school like really social. Like it's social times coming around. Yeah, 100% and just a bit run down. I think you catch something especially like I work at a school and so many school kids running around, like if you're a little bit going down and there's that many ferals, yeah, you're going to get something even kind of like, obviously we sit in this room a lot and we speak in the mocks a lot, even kind of hearing it now, we both have that raspy voice and they voice head when we hit puberty this week.
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Speaker 2
And yours. Lucky you anyway. Fucking literal. A literal shit show, right? It was one of one of those, like, races where I, I have you ever heard of the burnt toast theory? No. My girlfriend Paige, she says it all the time. It's like if something happens, it happens for a reason, kind of sort of thing.
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Speaker 2
So, like, first off, my my flight, when I first booked my flights for. For Tong Yong, I booked him. I still booked in pretty late. There was probably like three weeks before we flew out. So I booked my return flight. Same airline as everybody else, whatnot. Anyway, I got an email like the week before I was about to fly saying that my flight hadn't been processed or something.
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Speaker 2
It was something real dodgy. Yeah, it looked real scammy, but I think they just oversold the tickets on the return flight. Yeah. So I went on, I had to rebook all my flights, ended up booking three one way flights there to Sydney, Sydney back. So it was expensive as well. It was expensive so cost an extra like $900 to get there.
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Speaker 2
So that was the first big, you know, shit show. Going over there and like the preparation was actually nice. Like telling you all was pretty nice. But race itself, I took it off. I think I was around 25th. I had a crappy swim, made the front pack on the bike. We rode out, rode really hard, but then again just didn't really have my flow on the run.
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Speaker 2
And when you're racing at a World Cup level, if you don't have your flow, you get exposed. Yeah. But then, yeah, a bad way just got so much worse. And for anybody that doesn't like, you know, disgusting stories and of hoon vomiting to just skip this next part. But about 20 minutes before I boarded my flight home, I'm not sure what it was.
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Speaker 2
It was food poisoning or water quality, but I just felt this sickening feeling, like double in your guts. Yeah. Ran to the toilet, had my first spew. I thought, please, I'm going on. Just no food poisoning I was or something. I was hoping I'm going on a nine hour flight here. Like please don't let that be the start of it.
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Speaker 2
Walking on the flight, walking down the aisle. All of a sudden I had to turn back, push past people straight to the toilet on the on the plane in front of the plane, everyone's watching me, my ass hanging out the door heading 12.
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Speaker 1
Oh.
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Speaker 2
Oh. Everyone's watching. Yeah, yeah. Backpack still on like it was terrible in the toilet. And then the the staff are like, oh, are you okay? Are you going to be out of flying? I'm like, not get me home. I'm not staying in Korea. So I was like, told him, no, no one off thing, one off thing, bit of food poisoning.
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Speaker 2
All good. 20 minutes later, we just get in the air. I'm pushing the seat belt sign on buckle. You're the first one I was. I was out the ain't on. The staff members are out. I'm like, get out. Spend the next three, three hours that fly with my head in the toilet. Then all of a sudden I was went back to my seat.
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Speaker 2
And then it was basically the next six hours of that flight was 20 minutes on, 20 minutes off. So real grim it came back. I actually got that about to spend a night in the hospital just to get fluids back into me, antibiotics into me, and yeah, try to keep some food down. A billion. I've lost nearly ten kilos.
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Speaker 2
Like it's just nightmare. It was nightmare. Literally crazy how a little bug like that or like a bit of bad water. Yeah. Can absolutely destroy your body. I think we nearly had, like, five athletes from the Australian team alone come down with it. So do you think it was water or food? Water quality or food? I think I think water quality.
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Speaker 2
Yeah. It, it, I feel as if those Asian races and we've said before like in rice in China, sometimes the water like it's a risk going there. Yeah it is, it's and where it was, it was a harbor for like real gastro. Yeah. Real industrial sort of fisherman town. So yeah. And it's just energy's just been sucked out of me.
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Speaker 2
Really. So just on the street again, you can can't, like, smell the petrol in the water. Yeah. Those places. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. There's that little black sort of film on top like. Yeah, yeah. The oil. Yeah yeah yeah yeah. So it's a nightmare. Yeah. Not nice but I mean we're at the hopefully the clear end of it now.
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Speaker 2
And I got a couple of IVs pumped in. Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. I've, I just kill everything. But I mean that's how sort of sad was two weeks. Hopefully you guys can cut us some slack. That's why we haven't been on the point. That's why it's a bit like being in the water. Yeah, we have been. We have been.
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Speaker 2
But, there's been a bit on in the sort of the two weeks that we, that we. Yeah, we kind of recap two really big race and we and we're gonna, we're going to try not rush through this, but we want to get this, done quicker than usual because we have got, another special guest on today.
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Speaker 2
So just sort of tease that a little bit. It's probably in the title. Probably will be in the title, I think. Yeah, yeah, I've said it all the time. Tease it. You'll see shadows coming on later. So we'll, yeah, look forward to talking to her. First up, 70.3 World champs. I thought it was a great race.
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Speaker 2
Really great. The hype. It lived up to the hype, which I feel as if most days 17.3 world champs do live up to nowadays. Like, I didn't know that the 17.3 world champs haven't been around that long. They've been around for like 18 years or something like that. In comparison to other. Yeah, I've world champs corner in year Olympics.
00;07;09;21 - 00;07;26;13
Speaker 2
Yeah. So there haven't actually been that many like 70.3 world champs. But I feel as if it's such a big thing now. That's why I saw all like the, news articles sort of saying like, we've got 18 world champs. Yeah. I mean, we're just getting back to 18. No, I think that's cool. That's like, that's okay. Yeah.
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Speaker 2
Which is really cool. But I feel as if that like now the 70.3 distance is such a bona fide kind of distance that anyone can go. Well, not anyone can race, but it's like a really hard race. And it's. And I feel like one of the peak parts of triathlon now. Yeah, it's probably that really nice middle ground where you're going to have some like and we have been saying it some long course guys come into that middle ground and some short, close guys able to go up to that.
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Speaker 2
Best of both. It's a best of both. So yeah. And I think we saw that with the results, like the people that were on the podium were the best of both. Yeah. Exactly right. Just quickly run through the, the podium, the men's, it was yellow. Yeah. And that was Christian. They had an awesome rumble. And then Caspar Stoner's big run was at that.
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Speaker 2
Yeah, I know, especially after the Iron Man World Championship win. I think far out to do that and come back to kind of show that he could do it. Yeah. Yeah. Like on fatigued legs and. Yeah. And he was coming back as well. He was coming back strong almost like almost like surprisingly fast. Yeah. Like a lot faster than what I thought he would have come back.
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Speaker 2
And then the women's I think it was how he said it. And I don't want to do our own horn. We did very good at. But I was pretty close to picking that men's podium, though. With the men's podium. You nailed it. No, I said yellow win. Yeah. Christian second. Yeah. And then Jonas Schomberg in third. But he got outrun by Castro to go fourth.
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Speaker 2
Yeah. I was almost like shit. I was like, come on Castle, I can't have.
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Speaker 1
Like I can't.
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Speaker 2
Have like because I can't I feel as if I'm better at picking the 70.3. I haven't. We haven't actually given you an all credit for this. You got the women's podium fully correct in Noosa. Yep. And then you've just nearly got the men's podium in 70 point. You've gone from really shoot at this to actually I'm actually thinking about it.
00;09;12;13 - 00;09;28;08
Speaker 2
You actually put some thought into it. Yeah I went I did a you and I went a bit rogue. Yeah. You did go right. Yeah I did especially in the men's space. You peaks really well, I still think Nina Darren could have done something. Yeah, well, she won the two 100th of day. Yeah. So, Yeah, it just left around a little bit.
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Speaker 2
So the women's Lucy Charles Barkley in first, Tyler nib in second, and then we got, I don't mess up, you know. I'm sorry. Tangent new bit. Yeah. She's a short course I think. Yeah. She just race the full series. I think she even got some podiums in the World Cup world series. Yeah. So she's a real.
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Speaker 2
And it was her second 70.3. She's just insane. Yeah. Know, I think she's got an insane pedigree on the run. Which obviously helps a lot over 21 K like you're going to put in some time. Yeah. Those two girls, they're so dominant. Yeah. Lucy, Charles and, Tyler, your your third place pick, Jess Lane won't surprise me.
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Speaker 2
Yeah, she was close as well. Really good distance. Yeah, I think I think the run and like I said it, the run was going to hurt her. And it did. She went from coming I think like in that top three off the block to falling back to seven seven. But like she had a lot of camera time. Yeah.
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Speaker 2
Which made me nervous. It was yeah I thought oh as if like you y'all know, you did very well. You did very well. Any people that weren't in it that you thought should have, I think, Gustaf, I was going to say good stuff in events. Yeah, a bit disappointing. Yeah, that was, Who else?
00;10;34;25 - 00;10;51;05
Speaker 2
Where was Nick Thomson? In the end? He was, just inside the top ten, I believe. So, yeah. Yeah, I think. What did Jamie Riddle end off? He was still good, but he did two top tens in Iron Man and The Sacrifice Tree. And they're young boys. Yeah. So I think for those two as well, they've got time.
00;10;51;11 - 00;11;11;26
Speaker 2
Like they've got a lot of time. Who were you supporting in that run battle against. Yeah. Yeah I mean yellow vans Christian no doubt. Well I think I think I think you have 100% yellow. And I know that we're were obviously a bit late to the party here really scene a couple weeks later. But the fucking live stream, sucks.
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Speaker 2
And I understand like they're saying that we're trying to say, oh, we had camera difficulties. This is the biggest race of the year. Yeah. Get it right. Like like the minute I again, all these comments have been made. Yeah, yeah. But like we don't want to be saying hotels and in a while I don't want to you to go the most exciting sprint finish.
00;11;31;03 - 00;11;45;28
Speaker 2
And we got a picture of this. I was like what the fuck? It's 9 p.m. here. I want to go to bed. I want to watch this. We're screaming at the TV. Yellow. I can't even actually see him. Yeah, yeah, it's blurry out. Yeah. I don't know if that was my internet or was there actual coverage? I think that coverage.
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Speaker 2
Yeah. I don't even know. When they finally panned back to it, I was like, oh, what? But with each other now? Well, I couldn't even see yellow because he was kind of tucked behind one of the barriers so I could only see Christian. I thought, oh, that I've just completely smooth. Yeah. But now then I saw him come around and it was a really exciting.
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Speaker 2
Yeah. It was, but yeah, 100% yellow. He's a local boy now. Yeah. So he's a gold coaster. We try them on, we'll have to get him on. Was it. Oh, he's back now so. Yeah he's back. We'll get him on. Maybe next week. Maybe next week. We'll say did he have anyone or that. Was it just cash?
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Speaker 2
Well it was, it was mainly Casper. Okay. Using the women's. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, that was obviously not. It wasn't nothing she could really do. No. Like having having more. She was cramping up. And then I think, I can't remember who it was. If it was a pro, try and use, like a bit of commentary on their feet or.
00;12;36;20 - 00;12;51;09
Speaker 2
But that was saying that there was a race, I think maybe earlier in the year where they thought it was cramping and she ended up tearing a calf. So I thought, she's if it's that bad, you know, pushing through a torn calf. So, yeah, obviously hopefully she comes out because she would have been great on that. Yeah.
00;12;51;09 - 00;13;10;16
Speaker 2
She's had a massive season. Yeah. She, she could have pushed into a podium position ago. She was. Yeah I think it was like her and Jess. Right. Battling. Yeah. Well and she's popped. We know how good Kate Matthews is like cannot is is just a freak on the run. Yeah okay. Into the biggest debacle. Yeah. You know more about this in May Dubai.
00;13;10;18 - 00;13;30;00
Speaker 2
That was a shit show. It was. And it's not a good look when Iron Man can put on such a good event. Yeah. To come in as a competitor as with a different series and you've got all these pros with only 20 and trying to make it the top notch elite series. When you have a shit show like that is pretty poor.
00;13;30;01 - 00;13;46;03
Speaker 2
Also, when you've got contracted athletes that you're paying a lot of money and these guys are like, you had a supporting, you had Martin Van Rio. I mean, you look at Martin Van Real, Hayden Wilde have quite the same Dickinson as well. A lot of these guys have shaped their season around the table. Yeah, those guys didn't race a 70.3.
00;13;46;03 - 00;14;04;03
Speaker 2
Whoa. It's because like they want to take the two 100 bucks. Exactly. Like a lot of these guys are incredible athletes that you add them on to the 70.3 mile by a world chart, and they change you define that. Yeah. So I think it was I think that's what makes is quite sad. But anyway you give a brief on so what happened.
00;14;04;03 - 00;14;23;26
Speaker 2
The the women's race was fine because I think they got it sorted for that. But the men's race was an absolute shambles. So you had Hayden Wall do an extra lap on the bike I believe him. Yeah. There's those three of them. I and I forget who else Mark McCourt or something like that and and Martin and Martin.
00;14;23;29 - 00;14;48;00
Speaker 2
So they all did an extra lap. And in my humble opinion, that's their fault. Exactly. Yeah. So that's their fault. It's like, fair enough. Like Brian fault, you know. You know, like you're an athlete. He's meant to be kept accountable for. Yeah. How many laps you've done, how much you need to do. Albeit I'm not too sure whether there was a lap counter on the bike.
00;14;48;03 - 00;15;10;28
Speaker 2
I don't think there was any. Like there should be a one lap Taco Bell. Yeah, which is fair enough. Like that should be that way. You get that in races. One lap to go. So I think maybe if there wasn't that there, fair enough. The boys can be disappointed. But it's up to you to know how many laps you've done and also hearing a lot of them sort of blame the, but my Garmin said 76 K my like my Garmin in Tom young said 19 K.
00;15;10;28 - 00;15;28;08
Speaker 2
That doesn't mean I'm going to go right down the straight a bit long ago. Yeah you do an extra lot like you know I think that's all on them. Yeah, exactly 100%. But then the run is where it probably becomes on the T 100 fault. Like it's definitely the organization's fault here. Yeah. Because on their counter they had digital counter.
00;15;28;08 - 00;15;48;05
Speaker 2
And that said they had eight lap run which is stupid. Over 18 K. Yeah. Why would you do that I don't know, you got plenty of land out there. Yeah. Yeah. Plenty of land in Dubai. Yeah. It's desert anyway, so they've done seven laps and so who was in first? It was Morgan Pearson. It said one left to go.
00;15;48;05 - 00;16;08;26
Speaker 2
So he's going on for another lap. Right. But then it's saying for who came in first. He can do it. Said go to finish him taking the tight was the funniest thing and he's gone to the finish on the seventh lap. Yeah, which is what the count has said. So I feel as if he's gone. Well, saying don't go to the finish.
00;16;08;26 - 00;16;28;06
Speaker 2
Well of course I'm going to go, I'm going to go. Morgan Pearson was like a minute up, so he hadn't seen him anyway. And he's going to raise the tape so that, that that's a tricky winding. It is tough and like really one. Yes. Athletes are meant to be kept accountable. Yeah like that is first and foremost I think most can agree with that.
00;16;28;09 - 00;16;47;09
Speaker 2
But for the for the T100 when they are, like you said, trying to set a precedence and they're trying to make a name for themselves as one of the top leading sort of contenders for a World Series or. Yeah. And they're saying it's a bona fide world title. Yeah. At the moment it's when you put on a race, I look at this as an asterix.
00;16;47;09 - 00;17;10;17
Speaker 2
Exactly. Yeah, exactly. Now, now especially like it 100% ruined Hayden's because if they'd all got off at the same time and they all ran, Hayden would. One that I think we can all I think we can all agree. Worst case, he's in the best form that anyone's in worst case Martin maybe out of maybe he would have. But that's the worst case that if Hayden has an off day, he was leading the race and he's about to go into his best like.
00;17;10;19 - 00;17;32;24
Speaker 2
Yeah. And I had a gap of. Yeah, Martin was the only one there. Yeah. So yeah. So we know that. And now that I think after that race, who's this. He ended up fifth I think fifth. Yeah. So that's it's not it's not ruined. He's he's probably still he's probably still going to win. Yeah exactly. But it's not if you're someone that wants to go win all of them, all the ones you've put in, it's kind of ruined it for him.
00;17;32;24 - 00;17;41;14
Speaker 2
Yeah. Exactly. Right. So yeah, it's definitely put a bit of an asterisk on. And, I've also felt terrible for Morgan Pearson, who like. Yeah, he didn't get he ran.
00;17;41;14 - 00;17;43;07
Speaker 1
Across at like 1:00.
00;17;43;07 - 00;17;51;29
Speaker 2
At night. Yeah. Did the time. Well, yeah. Just for a photo. Yeah. Like. Yeah. They literally he, he had this big smile on his face. And then he comes around the corner and he's five other athletes and he's like, what?
00;17;52;00 - 00;17;53;02
Speaker 1
What,
00;17;53;04 - 00;18;17;07
Speaker 2
How is this happened? But yeah like it was it was terrible. And to see the amount of athletes posting their opinions on it. And so they weren't happy. They weren't Martin Van Rail definitely wasn't happy who he was. And that was pretty, like, what's the word kind of like and rightly so. When you, the reigning 100 world champion, I say, I don't really agree with it.
00;18;17;07 - 00;18;33;04
Speaker 2
Like the T 100. I don't really care for it. No, I think you're adding. That's too many elements. Hey, you got a world champion. You got a 70.3 champion. You got an, on, man world champ. Now you got to know you got Ironman 70.3, and then Matty has, the World Series champion. So you got short course too long.
00;18;33;10 - 00;18;49;01
Speaker 2
We can't I don't know, it's getting tighter. Especially when there's two distances exactly the same. Yeah, it's getting too much here with where you're filling in. Too much gap. Yeah. Having a separate series. Do you, do you the two 100 champ? You're the challenge champ. Yeah, whatever. All this. But you're not the world champ. You know the world champ.
00;18;49;01 - 00;19;05;11
Speaker 2
Yeah, like, yeah, you can pay him as much money as you have, but it's still just, in my opinion, not. Yeah. That one. That might mean nothing to anyone, but that's just my opinion. But yeah, that was that was big drama. And I think there was a lot of carry on and. Yeah, right. Rightly so I think.
00;19;05;11 - 00;19;31;14
Speaker 2
So what, what would you suggest that what what should have happened I think like do you think so? I think there was a couple and I know credit pro try and use for this. And they had a couple things you do. Q everyone that went the wrong way and I think there's only about four finishes. Yeah, I'm unsure about that because it was a t say I said this other day, actually, I was like more on that side because it rewards the people who actually counted the laps.
00;19;31;14 - 00;19;49;17
Speaker 2
Yeah. So I think Hayden counted his laps wrongly on the bike, but then did eight laps running, which I mean, yeah, you fucked up before, but then everyone else else's stuffed up in the run. Yeah. So everyone should be DK so then everyone else should be naked. And these guys, well, if we're going to say you got to follow the course and it's up to the athletes.
00;19;49;17 - 00;20;12;23
Speaker 2
Yeah, yeah. Well then they should be the ones reaping the rewards of the top four. Yeah. But if it's a technical issue on the side of T 100 where it said to go in. Yeah, I think they've done the right thing whereby it's going off the seventh lap. Yes okay I agree. No I understand. Yeah. And I think like you said the bike 100%.
00;20;12;27 - 00;20;29;29
Speaker 2
I think overall it's fucking lap count is out there. You have someone can have a bell that like it's as simple as that and you won't have this problem. Like you will not have this problem because for I know if you're the guys in the front pack that blame the bikes for going, yeah, you can't really blame them because they just need to get videos.
00;20;29;29 - 00;20;48;11
Speaker 2
Yeah, it just that video like they the livestream this is media to it completely. They don't know anything. They don't know anything. They just following you. All right. So like yeah I think to make sure this never happens again if I can pull Afghanis out of there. Yeah. All right. And use a bit more road. Don't have eight lap course for 80.
00;20;48;11 - 00;21;09;25
Speaker 2
Yeah. Fuck is boring. So we have that for Olympic distance. Yeah. Exactly. Four laps of a ten K course for an Olympic distance, which is fair enough. Yeah. Because it's for. That's okay. It's okay. It's only for you, not for laps eight all the time. Trouble like out in the desert. Boring. Terrible. Yeah. That will get us, like some nice straight road I want them down next to, like, the Burj clay for around there.
00;21;09;25 - 00;21;25;07
Speaker 2
Yeah. Coming back. Yeah. Put in a cool place. Yeah. Cool place. Anyway, that was a shit show, but, I mean, it's still 100. I'm sure that will come back and people will stop following. Yeah, I think, and there'll be water under the bridge in the end. Yeah. I think with the Saudi money in the oil money that they're getting in there.
00;21;25;09 - 00;21;46;11
Speaker 2
Yeah. Dubai, Qatar. I think we're just getting more world Series out there as well. Like I think they should be more money. Yeah. They actually signed a massive deal. Yeah. Yeah. Which I'm not a huge fan of as in just us racing. They're like, well I mean if they're paying the money. Yeah, everything's going that way. I think in like sport, like did you see the crowd running down the finish it.
00;21;46;12 - 00;22;03;06
Speaker 2
There's no there's no atmosphere. What atmosphere is it you don't want to be racing there. Yeah. I feel as if in Europe especially like with triathlon it's a cultural thing. Like you look at a handbag world champs, it's crazy. And Australian world champs was crazy. After we've just got lost all that. They live now, they don't really care for it.
00;22;03;06 - 00;22;18;10
Speaker 2
No. It's like we've got a couple Saudi princes and I mean, if they've got enough money and they want to fund this podcast, we have a couple more. We'll do a live show out in the desert. I don't care if ten people are watching. Yeah, exactly. There's probably only ten people that listen to this.
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Speaker 1
00;22;19;22 - 00;22;21;07
Speaker 2
None of that.
00;22;21;09 - 00;22;22;10
Speaker 1
Yeah.
00;22;22;12 - 00;22;39;25
Speaker 2
But I think it's good that there's, like, some money that they have to pump into it, albeit, you know, dodgy oil money. I don't really care. Oh, I just don't want to be racing it. I just don't really know. It's just like it's just. No, I feel as if it's cool. That's cool. Novelty. Like the one race in Abu Dhabi for the World Series.
00;22;39;28 - 00;23;00;18
Speaker 2
Yeah. Cool. That's we've going to that continent. Yeah I'm saying the Middle East and then we can go back to Europe. Asia. Yeah. It's not, it's not for me. It's not for me. That's all that matters. Alrighty. Enough about the, T100 carnage. Let's, let's now bring in to someone who actually had a massive win over the weekend.
00;23;00;19 - 00;23;28;04
Speaker 2
Yeah, let's get a shot of abs. Alrighty. The star of the show, main guest for today. Back. Another fellow Aussie. Gonna give her a big congratulations after her first World Cup podium on the weekend. Bronze medal. In the Tong Young World Cup. She is a four time Australian junior champion. She's been to a youth Olympic Games and two world Championships to her name.
00;23;28;06 - 00;23;31;11
Speaker 2
Please give a round of applause. Charlotte Woo!
00;23;31;13 - 00;23;33;05
Charlotte
Thanks, guys.
00;23;33;07 - 00;23;33;17
Speaker 1
Yeah.
00;23;33;19 - 00;23;35;03
Speaker 2
And again you first part.
00;23;35;10 - 00;23;36;29
Speaker 1
Yes yes yes.
00;23;37;01 - 00;23;50;29
Speaker 2
I actually got to say I was, I felt pretty proud when I was doing my black warm up and I obviously. So I obviously saw a shot just finish a race and I was doing my well, I was trying to get in the zone. I saw a shark, I mean, and she had a two year a row and I was like, oh my god, shot at like giving her a big hug.
00;23;50;29 - 00;23;55;18
Speaker 2
I was so happy. She's like, thank you. Can I come on the podcast?
00;23;55;21 - 00;23;57;12
Speaker 1
I was like, yeah, you can. I wish you.
00;23;57;12 - 00;24;04;01
Charlotte
Good. I remember I said, sorry, yeah. I was like, when can I come in the pod? And you were like, we have to do something good first.
00;24;04;03 - 00;24;06;02
Speaker 2
And World Cup podium.
00;24;06;02 - 00;24;07;15
Charlotte
Yeah. And I was like, well, yeah.
00;24;07;15 - 00;24;09;14
Speaker 1
It was someone to do that like a couple weeks before.
00;24;09;14 - 00;24;11;06
Charlotte
You. Yeah, yeah.
00;24;11;08 - 00;24;15;09
Speaker 2
I was in the back of your mind when you're running, I need to get on the plane.
00;24;15;10 - 00;24;15;24
Charlotte
Oh yeah.
00;24;15;24 - 00;24;18;08
Speaker 2
Obviously not.
00;24;18;11 - 00;24;19;01
Speaker 1
That's.
00;24;19;03 - 00;24;35;15
Speaker 2
It's funny because I remember I think, when we had the Surrealists a couple years ago. Oh, not at the start of the season. He, he said we didn't pick him, like, in our top three for the race, and that pissed him off. So he's like, I'm going to show these boys that I should be in the top for their top three picks.
00;24;35;15 - 00;24;37;03
Speaker 2
So now I thought that you.
00;24;37;03 - 00;24;38;20
Charlotte
Guys are giving us motivation. Yeah.
00;24;38;20 - 00;24;39;10
Speaker 2
Thank you very much.
00;24;39;10 - 00;24;40;21
Speaker 1
Thank you.
00;24;40;23 - 00;24;52;13
Speaker 2
So it has to give us motivation then. Yeah. You know, like, maybe we might race you better that, Anyway, back to shore. Yeah. You've just come off the podium as it sunk in yet?
00;24;52;16 - 00;25;05;18
Charlotte
I don't think so. Like, it still doesn't feel real. I'm obviously, like, still so excited. Yeah. And, yeah, I was really emotional that day, too, so. Yeah, I don't know. I'm still kind of riding the high.
00;25;05;21 - 00;25;12;00
Speaker 2
Yeah, it's been a bit a bit of a long time coming because you had a great race the week before as well. You've got six there. So that was a pay day result too.
00;25;12;00 - 00;25;15;27
Charlotte
Yeah, yeah. And I was really excited after that. Yeah. Yeah. So it.
00;25;15;27 - 00;25;17;10
Speaker 2
Was always double double probably just.
00;25;17;10 - 00;25;28;04
Charlotte
Got better. Yeah. So I do get I just wanted to I guess do better than the race I did in May's RC and. Yeah. And I did that running down.
00;25;28;04 - 00;25;44;08
Speaker 2
You're like oh my god. Yeah. Go to him. Yeah. Oh yeah. Talk us through the race. How how did it go start to finish. Like I think obvious one your swim swim set you up. Yeah I think when I was watching it, saw you in the front pack out of the swim. I actually rewound it to see what you came out of.
00;25;44;09 - 00;25;53;00
Speaker 2
Seeing was like, top five. You was there. We are like, oh, that's on. And that's just meant to be your weakness. Yeah, yeah. So talk us through that. How is the race? How did that play out for you?
00;25;53;02 - 00;26;20;29
Charlotte
Yeah. Well, I guess like, even before the race, I woke up. I usually am someone that gets, like, super nervous before I race. But that day, and I guess, before Misaki as well, I woke up and I was actually just, like, super excited, like, just really, really, really keen to race. So I think, going in before I was like, I've got I've got nothing to lose here.
00;26;20;29 - 00;26;49;21
Charlotte
Like I'm just going to give it my best. Like I'm obviously expecting a good result for myself. But you know, I was like super relaxed. And then, kind of got in that start line. I was ranked quite high going into the race, so I got to choose where I went on the pontoon and obviously I put myself next to Tilly because I was like, you know, that's she's the strongest swimmer, in the field and the.
00;26;49;22 - 00;26;50;09
Speaker 2
Left or right.
00;26;50;09 - 00;26;52;28
Charlotte
So I went, right, okay. And that's.
00;26;53;00 - 00;26;53;20
Speaker 2
Into the men's race.
00;26;53;20 - 00;27;17;09
Charlotte
And. Yeah, yeah. So I went right. And yeah. So the gun went off and I was like very aware of where I was the whole time. I was like, just stay aware. Stay like in the moment. Try to get on her side, which I didn't, but it was still like good enough to be in the position where I was.
00;27;17;10 - 00;27;18;20
Speaker 2
Almost gave you a bit of a tone.
00;27;18;21 - 00;27;30;26
Charlotte
Yeah. Yeah, exactly. And I could see where I was and I was like, I'm happy just to see it, like in this fourth or fifth position, get the tow, because I think that will be, that will form a front part. Well that's what guarantee.
00;27;30;29 - 00;27;32;07
Speaker 2
That's your ticket. Yeah.
00;27;32;10 - 00;27;56;21
Charlotte
Yeah, that's my ticket to the front. So I got out like stay calm during transition. You know getting the wetsuit up can always be a bit stressful. But I was just like, you know, stay in the moment, relax, and then get onto the bike. And I feel like for me, getting onto the bike in that position is always a bit of a relief because I've had a lot of swims where I haven't been in that position.
00;27;56;21 - 00;28;13;07
Charlotte
And I'm, a bit further back then where where I want to be. So when I was on the bike in that position, I was like, okay, okay, I'm here now. Yeah. Like, let's just try, you know, get everyone working so that we can potentially have a little breakaway, which was really fun.
00;28;13;09 - 00;28;30;13
Speaker 2
And you, you, you were like, you and Kira especially were like the two driving forces of that brand. It was funny because even, in, like, you know, like a couple nights before, you two were kind of almost joking about it. Two main breakaway. Oh, yeah. Kieran, I just got to of what, two minutes on and then. Yeah, it wasn't a two man.
00;28;30;13 - 00;28;39;22
Speaker 2
Right. Go on the two minutes. But you guys were the driving force of that. I think it was a 7 or 8 man. Yeah. Breakaway. So like like what you girls sort of said wasn't that far off.
00;28;39;24 - 00;29;02;03
Charlotte
Yeah. Happening. Yeah. Well I think like after, Miyazaki, we knew that we could like, potentially be in that position, I guess. And it was like really great having Kira there as well. Like, it was so good. I guess being with each other the whole time, like, we're very. Yeah, team mate, we're like, very encouraging towards each other.
00;29;02;03 - 00;29;22;16
Charlotte
We both wanted each other to have really good races. So I think it was actually really fun and nice having her there. And I know that she's always won in the pack. That's going to really work. Which is good that you have someone else to rely on that once the same thing is. Yeah, exactly that. Like once the same thing is you.
00;29;22;18 - 00;29;40;29
Charlotte
So, yeah, we kind of got everyone working. I think there was about five people in the pack that were doing, like, consistent work, which was really great. And then every lap I saw the time split going up, like Norm was chatting with a whiteboard, which was really great. She was really loud.
00;29;41;02 - 00;29;41;13
Speaker 2
Losing it.
00;29;41;14 - 00;29;56;04
Charlotte
Yeah, yeah, yeah, she was really loud so I could hear it every time we went past. So I guess that was encouraging, saying, like every lap we put in, like 10s and another 10s and then another 10s till it was like seconds.
00;29;56;05 - 00;29;58;20
Speaker 2
Yeah. So you guys got 32 off the bike, didn't you? Yeah.
00;29;58;20 - 00;30;05;04
Charlotte
32. I think it was around that. So in my head I was like, that's I think that's all I need.
00;30;05;07 - 00;30;11;05
Speaker 2
So it was kind of at that point getting off the bike. You thought, I'm on for a podium here. I didn't want to put that I didn't like.
00;30;11;12 - 00;30;29;21
Charlotte
I wasn't directly thinking that, I guess, on the bike, but I knew that a lot of the strong runners were in that second pack. So I was like, it's definitely not like, not a possibility that I could do it. I think that's what I was thinking in the back. But still also trying to stay calm and.
00;30;29;21 - 00;30;30;06
Speaker 2
Present in.
00;30;30;06 - 00;30;33;21
Charlotte
The present. In the moment. Yeah. Concentrate on what I'm doing.
00;30;33;21 - 00;30;51;29
Speaker 2
Yeah. That's cool. I think that shows a lot of maturity for an athlete to be able to not get so waylaid and go like, you know, oh my God, I'm coming off the bike. All these strong runners on Instagram. Exactly. Yeah, exactly. So I think that shows a lot of, I get more emotional maturity really, to not get so caught up in the moment.
00;30;51;29 - 00;31;06;03
Speaker 2
So I think and like all of us, as soon as we saw it, as soon as I looked over from the balcony and I saw you were running in first and second, I was like, yeah, podium right? There wasn't a doubt in my mind, but obviously it's like it's different when you're the athlete. Yeah, yeah, we don't know how you feel.
00;31;06;05 - 00;31;13;16
Speaker 2
But yeah, for me it was actually, you know, for me it was when I saw you come out of the wall for really good. I'm like shy was not a great team. Not like usually. No thanks.
00;31;13;16 - 00;31;15;05
Speaker 1
Thanks, mate. She's.
00;31;15;09 - 00;31;42;01
Speaker 2
I'll give you I'll give you credit with credit. She phenomenal black run off. But when I think about fourth I thought well like she has set herself up here for a great day. And I think again like you've said even even the choice of the pontoon, like so much thought is going into this. Like, it's really cool to hear a real detail orientated race plan and to see that come to life and to pick up a third like, that's that's really cool.
00;31;42;04 - 00;31;56;15
Speaker 2
I was going to say you talk a lot about being present, always present in the swim. Is that something that maybe you've lacked in the past, or did you try and really work on that going into these like, yeah, this year or the last couple races?
00;31;56;17 - 00;32;22;21
Charlotte
I think that it's something that I kind of struggle with in the last couple years, like, I guess not being present in if in any situation, I guess if I'm going not good. Like I'm already really emotional, like in the race. So, yeah, I think that was like a really important part I worked a lot with in psychologist, with psychologists in the past is just being present in the moment.
00;32;22;22 - 00;32;31;04
Charlotte
Think about what you're doing, because when you're not, that's when mistakes can happen. I think especially for me like, oh Steph, something up for sure.
00;32;31;07 - 00;32;34;00
Speaker 2
So almost getting a bit ahead of yourself. Yeah.
00;32;34;03 - 00;32;35;02
Charlotte
Yeah. Exactly.
00;32;35;02 - 00;32;55;13
Speaker 2
So so do you think was that a psychologist or a coach or both kind of blend. Was it mainly like, let's say in training sessions where you going out going. This is like my key goal of this session. Or was it more like, you know, you're with a psychologist. I've never been to one. But like, I know sport socks.
00;32;55;15 - 00;32;57;24
Speaker 2
Really good. A lot of people rave on about them.
00;32;58;01 - 00;32;58;11
Charlotte
Yeah.
00;32;58;12 - 00;33;02;05
Speaker 2
Was it like that? Kind of, like learning from that?
00;33;02;08 - 00;33;25;09
Charlotte
Yeah, I think both. Yeah, I think definitely a bit of both. Like I have the psychologist and then I also have my coach now who's very, I guess he is sort of like, meh. He's like relaxed in the approach to things, which I really like. And he's said, he says to me before every race, like don't think, just do kind of thing.
00;33;25;09 - 00;33;34;23
Charlotte
So like, don't think too much about your next step or what you're doing, like, oh, not what you're doing, but your next steps in the race. Like, you.
00;33;34;23 - 00;33;35;26
Speaker 2
Kind of instinctively know.
00;33;36;01 - 00;33;37;24
Charlotte
Yeah, just don't just do it.
00;33;37;25 - 00;33;55;07
Speaker 2
It's nothing different to what you do in training. Yeah, yeah, I think that's pretty cool because obviously very similar to we've heard like Matty Hauser and obviously like you and how it's going really well. And we've heard how to say the past, sort of the more relaxed he is, the better he goes. Like as soon as you go to relaxed during the start line, you go to scary house off.
00;33;55;09 - 00;34;12;22
Speaker 2
And so I think like hearing you sort of say, woke up in Miyazaki and Hong Kong. I was excited. Like that almost is a good reflection on if an athlete's excited then it's like, okay, well that's a pretty dangerous house like that because they do what they want to be there. There's no like fear or nerves or like obviously a bit of nerves, like there's natural.
00;34;12;23 - 00;34;13;19
Charlotte
Yeah, obviously.
00;34;13;19 - 00;34;19;18
Speaker 2
Natural nerves, but like, it's almost cool that you've been able to flip that. Yeah. To be more excited to go out there.
00;34;19;25 - 00;34;22;07
Charlotte
Yeah, definitely. Yeah.
00;34;22;09 - 00;34;42;14
Speaker 2
You post-race interview. So I think that was obviously very emotional. Like I so you come across a lot and a lot of happy tears, maybe tears of relief. Why do you think that moment was so powerful for you? Like, why was that such a big moment for you to be that visibly upset?
00;34;42;16 - 00;34;44;29
Charlotte
Yeah. No.
00;34;45;01 - 00;34;45;20
Speaker 2
No, no.
00;34;45;22 - 00;34;47;09
Speaker 1
Sorry. I'll start tomorrow night.
00;34;47;10 - 00;34;48;06
Speaker 2
I'm sorry. You know what I mean?
00;34;48;13 - 00;34;48;19
Speaker 1
Yeah.
00;34;48;25 - 00;34;51;27
Speaker 2
Tears of joy and tears of joy. Yeah.
00;34;51;29 - 00;35;26;26
Charlotte
I think that, like, the last couple years in triathlon for me have been really challenging and really hard. And I think, especially coming off, like, I guess being a dominant junior, I found going into, like, the seniors quite hard, I guess more from the pressure that I've put on myself that like, I have to be good and I don't want to let anyone down, and I feel like I've got points to prove.
00;35;26;29 - 00;35;54;11
Charlotte
So I guess coming across that line was like heaps of relief and just happiness. And I think I just wanted to prove to, mostly myself. But I guess a lot of people that I'm still here and I can, I can still do it. So yeah, I think that's the main thing for me. And I hadn't had a result like that.
00;35;54;11 - 00;36;21;19
Charlotte
So. But I've been very happy with for a really long time where I think I proved that I can swim, bike and run your own. Yeah, yeah. Which is what I guess every like I want to be and everyone wants to be and to prove so yeah, I think it was just relief, happiness and just emotion because I did it for myself and I did it for my team, who have really helped me like the past.
00;36;21;19 - 00;36;22;29
Charlotte
Yeah, yeah.
00;36;22;29 - 00;36;41;23
Speaker 2
What I really like about that is you said I'm doing it for like mostly myself. And I think obviously we get caught up in wanting to make parents proud, coaches proud, staff members proud, the federation proud. But I think like at the end of the day where we're here doing it ourselves, we're the ones getting up in the morning.
00;36;41;23 - 00;37;03;08
Speaker 2
We're the ones, you know, doing the training physically. We are the people that support 100%. But I really like the you said I wanted to prove to myself that I can do this because again, if for whoever might not have listened to the intro, you're a four time Australian junior champion going to the Youth Olympics in the two two World Championships like junior careers.
00;37;03;08 - 00;37;19;11
Speaker 2
Phenomenal. And now, obviously, like you said, you just had this like a bit of a block where you might have struggled a little bit. You've just got to third in a World Cup. Like though the big step up is people. There's people who have had successful careers that have never done that before. So like that's that's a huge set.
00;37;19;11 - 00;37;41;09
Speaker 2
So like this could just be the beginning of, you know, the next chapter. And I think, I think it's very much it's you also mentioned that, a year ago, you were close to walking away from triathlon. What sort of tilted your hat here? We've got like, I know you mentioned your coach Micho. Yeah. Mick Ferris, like the biggest roller.
00;37;41;09 - 00;37;48;09
Speaker 2
Was it, like, a little or did he tip you over there on your subconscious going, nah, just give it another crack?
00;37;48;09 - 00;37;49;05
Speaker 1
00;37;49;07 - 00;38;14;17
Charlotte
He was definitely like a massive part in keeping me in the sport. But I guess, like, I by the end of or the middle of last year, kind of when I didn't get selected for under 23 loads, that was like a massive blow for me, I think. And I almost got to the point where I was like, what's the point of this?
00;38;14;17 - 00;38;38;20
Charlotte
Like, I've worked so hard. I think I've gotten results that were worthy of getting picked for that team. And obviously people don't see it and I think they don't believe in me anymore. So I just had very low self-belief after that. And I thought, I think there's I'm so unhappy. I think there's more to life than this for me.
00;38;38;22 - 00;39;00;20
Charlotte
And then I, you know, I sat down with Mick and he said, you know, I think that you've got so much like, potential. And I think that you can really you can really make it and just give me a year. And it might not even be a year like it might be longer than a year, but you just have to give it time.
00;39;00;20 - 00;39;25;15
Charlotte
It's like a completely new training, completely new, you know, style of training. And I just need you to give me time. And I think from that I was like, okay, let's just give it. I'm gonna I want to put my own to this. If I'm going to give it one more crack. And I do just have to be patient with it because it's not all just going to fall on my lap.
00;39;25;15 - 00;39;29;15
Charlotte
It's not just all going to come overnight. So. Yeah.
00;39;29;17 - 00;39;42;27
Speaker 2
Yeah. So you think, like his little spark of belief, like someone else was okay when other people might not have, like, believed in you? Like you get picked for world champs and you've gone, oh, they don't really believe in me anymore. I'm going to someone else. And that little spark.
00;39;42;27 - 00;39;43;22
Charlotte
Of yeah.
00;39;43;22 - 00;39;48;27
Speaker 2
Someone else almost like grabbed me by the color and said, yeah, you can't be yourself back. You can't see yourself off.
00;39;48;28 - 00;40;14;01
Charlotte
Yeah. And he is like one of the most like encouraging and also positive people that I've ever met and spoken to, which I think, I really need as an athlete, I think I need a lot of positive things because I can turn into thinking negatively about myself. So he is like, I think perfect for me in that way.
00;40;14;01 - 00;40;15;05
Charlotte
Like very encouraging.
00;40;15;05 - 00;40;34;20
Speaker 2
That relationship sort of. Yeah. Really. Well, yeah. Exactly. Right. We spoke about that. We fried fish and yeah, he was like he was a bit lost. Yeah. But he found that relationship with his with his coach. Yeah. I feel as if that's nearly bigger than what we actually do. The coaching athlete relationship is almost more important. That's where you've excelled.
00;40;34;20 - 00;40;40;04
Speaker 2
Like you found your person. Like we know we go yeah. It's like the chillest guy ever. Yeah.
00;40;40;06 - 00;40;42;08
Speaker 1
Yeah. Good. Yeah.
00;40;42;10 - 00;40;53;02
Speaker 2
But you found him and that's that's what you need and that's what works. So if that's like the key bond, I feel as if training is much for muchness. Yeah, it doesn't really matter where you go, who you go with.
00;40;53;02 - 00;40;53;12
Charlotte
Yeah.
00;40;53;14 - 00;41;09;18
Speaker 2
Bond with the coaches. Yeah. It's all the same. It's just different terminologies with coaches basically. So yeah like you said it's trusting the coach, trusting that what they're putting on the board and the structure they're putting in place is right for you. And obviously you have that trust with Mick. So yeah. And that that shows.
00;41;09;26 - 00;41;30;29
Charlotte
Yeah. And obviously it's also been really good I guess training with known and like you guys as well because that's like another aspect in my training that I really love like nuns. Amazing as well and like being around another big group and everyone gets along really well. And training's also just like fun to go to. Like it's a really.
00;41;31;05 - 00;41;40;01
Speaker 2
Good mind character for swimming. Like the role of like we're all just, yeah, taking the piss. Yeah. It's the same this other day. And, I was just like, you know Daniel.
00;41;40;04 - 00;41;40;19
Speaker 1
Yeah, yeah.
00;41;40;19 - 00;41;44;02
Speaker 2
He sits on pool deck. He just goes, are you guys having fun?
00;41;44;07 - 00;41;45;10
Speaker 1
Yeah, yeah.
00;41;45;15 - 00;41;53;04
Speaker 2
You can't not have. I was talking to Jack this morning. I was like, you could be in the Shootist mood. Yeah. And he's going asking you midstream session and.
00;41;53;11 - 00;41;53;16
Charlotte
Yeah.
00;41;53;16 - 00;41;55;06
Speaker 2
I'm sorry if you're having fun.
00;41;55;06 - 00;42;01;14
Speaker 1
Yeah, exactly. Yeah, but not having the best time. Yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah.
00;42;01;14 - 00;42;01;28
Charlotte
Exactly.
00;42;01;28 - 00;42;04;00
Speaker 2
The environment. Yeah. That you build and.
00;42;04;02 - 00;42;04;18
Speaker 1
Yeah.
00;42;04;18 - 00;42;07;16
Speaker 2
That you surround yourself and it's if it's happy and it's fun.
00;42;07;16 - 00;42;24;00
Charlotte
Yeah. It doesn't always have to be so serious is like you don't you know going to have good days and bad days, you know, and I guess like if you can bring the fun aspect into it, that's ultimately what keeps bringing you back out like because you enjoy it.
00;42;24;00 - 00;42;26;15
Speaker 2
So if one rises, we all rise. Yeah.
00;42;26;17 - 00;42;29;21
Charlotte
Come up as a team. Yeah, exactly. So that's what I really like.
00;42;29;21 - 00;42;42;22
Speaker 2
You saw that with other. You don't train like 100%. We fast for the swims and a couple rides a week, but like with Keira as well I think like saying you two girls go really well. I was like oh this is pretty cool.
00;42;42;26 - 00;42;43;14
Charlotte
Yeah. Yeah.
00;42;43;14 - 00;42;47;08
Speaker 2
So you're a happy and you happy also mentality. Yeah.
00;42;47;10 - 00;42;50;01
Charlotte
Exactly. Yeah. Yeah, definitely.
00;42;50;03 - 00;43;12;29
Speaker 2
So looking back at sort of this last sort of year where you've really given it a crack, obviously like we've just spoken about the physical. Mental. Do you, what do you what do you think's been more important for you. Like what have you kind of worked on. More like is that something that Mick's kind of pulled you aside and going, yes, I can do the coaching part, but I really want you to work with the psych on the side.
00;43;12;29 - 00;43;14;22
Speaker 2
Yeah.
00;43;14;24 - 00;43;25;27
Charlotte
I think it's a bit of both. Like, obviously, obviously coming into his program, he was like, we need to do something about you swimming. But obviously, I.
00;43;25;27 - 00;43;26;15
Speaker 2
Wasn't the only one.
00;43;26;19 - 00;43;29;23
Charlotte
Yeah. So the.
00;43;29;26 - 00;43;30;14
Speaker 2
Life lucky.
00;43;30;14 - 00;43;31;08
Speaker 1
Yeah.
00;43;31;11 - 00;43;57;14
Charlotte
Okay. Thank you. Coach. Lucky. Yeah. You're right. So we kind of really, for a few months stepped back in that part, and we were just doing so much easy of very basic and, like, technique work because I think there was a lot going on with my stroke. So we have really been chipping away at that for really like pretty much the past year.
00;43;57;16 - 00;44;30;06
Charlotte
And I think that slowly this year it's just been starting to click for me and I'm feeling like better and better each training session in the water. And so yeah, that was the first thing that on a physical side, we wanted to work on. And I also with the training, he wanted to try do a lot more of our big conditioning stuff because I think that may have been something that I was lacking, before, like, just easy aerobics stuff.
00;44;30;07 - 00;44;38;25
Charlotte
Let's just build up your engine and then we'll gradually, you know, start adding in your, your harder works, sessions.
00;44;38;27 - 00;44;43;26
Speaker 2
A lot of like, threshold threshold work, like, oh, he does a lot of threshold work. He does a lot of time.
00;44;43;29 - 00;45;12;08
Charlotte
I know I'd say lots of build build so big on that. Yeah. Build stuff. Threshold. We very rarely ever go really, really hard unless it's like Saturday, which is like my key training day. So that's like a really hard bike. Usually behind the, like the moped. Yeah. With Mick on the front doing, like, sprints in and out of the bike and sitting next to the bike, going back behind.
00;45;12;08 - 00;45;38;04
Charlotte
So it's like very, very specific to detailed. Yeah. To riding. And then, like a hard run off the bike. Also very, very specific. So that's probably my main, I guess triathlon day like specific race day. And then I guess you have you had swims in the weekend, maybe another hard, hard running session, but not like really, really race specific like that.
00;45;38;06 - 00;45;38;17
Speaker 2
More of a.
00;45;38;17 - 00;45;47;07
Charlotte
Controlled. Yeah. More of a controlled run. And then one other threshold ride and the rest is just like easy, easy hard is hard. Yeah.
00;45;47;12 - 00;46;08;15
Speaker 2
Mileage I love that, I love that I think Australia is now like especially in the coaching scene was starting to break away from we just have to hammer ourselves to find ourselves. It's like like the importance behind just getting you day to day aerobics mileage in is, I think, coming to the forefront and the coaches are starting to emphasize that, like he said to you, like, I want you to get your mileage up and just ride arriving.
00;46;08;21 - 00;46;09;28
Speaker 2
I think that's so important.
00;46;10;01 - 00;46;10;21
Charlotte
Yeah, I.
00;46;10;24 - 00;46;24;00
Speaker 2
Got two pretty good athletes right now. Yeah, Josh is going amazing. His son and yourself. So pretty good. Lou stepped down yeah yeah that's right. Yeah I mean Josh Josh was just about time. Oh yeah. It was just like if I went to the Youth Olympics.
00;46;24;01 - 00;46;25;16
Charlotte
Yeah yeah we did. That's cool.
00;46;25;17 - 00;46;26;15
Speaker 2
Yeah, yeah.
00;46;26;17 - 00;46;27;25
Charlotte
That's fairly well met.
00;46;27;25 - 00;46;55;00
Speaker 2
So yeah. Pretty cool. Nice. I think this is pretty important because I guarantee there's probably. Oh, how many female athletes have come up through junior sport. Very, very talented. Have kind of come out of that junior I guess age group jumped up in under 20 threes where you're raising different girls because that under 20 threes you're still kind of racing the elites as well.
00;46;55;00 - 00;46;55;18
Speaker 2
So yeah.
00;46;55;18 - 00;46;56;12
Charlotte
Every race becomes.
00;46;56;19 - 00;47;18;06
Speaker 2
A 1920 year old girl still trying to potentially figure out like like body changes. What's going on. How do I use like my body to keep up with these women essentially that have got years of experience? What what is something that, you know, you would want to tell a younger you, like, if you had one piece of advice for a younger you because like, I guarantee you there's going to be other good.
00;47;18;12 - 00;47;34;06
Speaker 2
There's probably been girls in the past and who have gotten to that stage, and they haven't been able to make it back, and they've called it quits. And there's talent that we've lost. Yeah. And I guarantee there's going to be girls in the future that have the same issues. What? Something that you could tell them or tell a younger version of you.
00;47;34;07 - 00;47;35;28
Charlotte
Yeah.
00;47;36;01 - 00;47;37;07
Speaker 2
I've put you on the spot here, so.
00;47;37;08 - 00;47;40;25
Charlotte
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It was this in the.
00;47;40;25 - 00;47;41;22
Speaker 2
Question, it wasn't I.
00;47;41;25 - 00;47;42;16
Speaker 1
Oh, I.
00;47;42;16 - 00;47;43;16
Speaker 2
Just thought I'd that so.
00;47;43;16 - 00;47;43;22
Speaker 1
Yeah.
00;47;43;27 - 00;48;13;26
Charlotte
Yeah. No that's okay. I think definitely for one, you know yourself better than anyone else. Like than any coach then like anyone else that's doing the sports. And I think trust yourself. Like as you get older, you know what you need to succeed. You know what? Training works for you. You know what type of like, personalities, I guess, work for you to be the best version of yourself.
00;48;13;26 - 00;48;37;20
Charlotte
So I think really trust yourself and be a bit selfish in a way. Like do what you need to do. And I think another big thing is just, I guess as it's shown, like, be patient. Like, if you're doing the work and then you also have the mindset of belief that you can do it. I think that's when confidence comes in.
00;48;37;20 - 00;48;49;27
Charlotte
And like just having that self-belief helps you when it gets to the start line. So I think yeah, just patience and like don't stop believing in yourself really because you never know.
00;48;49;28 - 00;48;50;13
Speaker 2
Taking.
00;48;50;13 - 00;48;50;28
Charlotte
Crap in.
00;48;51;03 - 00;48;51;26
Speaker 2
Your future.
00;48;51;27 - 00;48;53;12
Charlotte
Yeah. Take control.
00;48;53;14 - 00;48;55;15
Speaker 2
Yeah. That was a much better response. I thought that was that.
00;48;55;15 - 00;48;57;11
Speaker 1
Was really good.
00;48;57;13 - 00;49;14;12
Speaker 2
So someone I just threw that question out. Yeah. That was, that was very good. Very good. Maybe like leaning past that, is there like, a mantra now for the future that you've kind of got? Because I'm assuming you've got pretty big aspirations, that you've got the ball rolling a little bit. We've got an Olympics in three years.
00;49;14;12 - 00;49;34;04
Speaker 2
We've got a home Olympics in seven years. Yeah. I mean, if you're getting podiums in world Cups I'm sure there's some the next stage from there is the World Series. Like it was our last Aussie World Cup podium that someone got on this year. Oh I think Sophie Lynn in female I think, I think a Sophie winner Geoff Cote.
00;49;34;06 - 00;49;38;03
Charlotte
Yeah I would be Geoff. He got one in IPL this year.
00;49;38;04 - 00;49;54;16
Speaker 2
Yeah yeah yeah yeah there was a breakaway. Yeah I think I think we've only really had Sophie and Geoff maybe in the lot like one I think it's because Sophie won last year in Napier. Yeah. Geoff you got one. Yeah. I think we've only had a handful. So you one of them. You want it? Yeah. Three that I can remember.
00;49;54;16 - 00;50;14;24
Speaker 2
So my head. Yeah. Yeah. So yeah. Yeah. Realistically like we talk about it a lot like I think we saw a little bit of a and I was pretty honest like a bit of a gap in like the women's field. And it was I was very much and like you said before, when you didn't get picked in worlds last year, I thought that was a huge missed opportunity.
00;50;14;24 - 00;50;35;03
Speaker 2
Like, I just think we should be feeling spots with, especially in the juniors. And on 23, when we've got, you know, we've got elite spots to fill as well. We need to get them ready somehow. And on the 23 juniors is the way to go about that, I believe. And I feel like based off that result, you are probably not putting any pressure on you leading the charge of that next generation of girls.
00;50;35;03 - 00;50;50;16
Speaker 2
Yeah. To sort of come up. Is that something that you're, like, excited about? Like where I was going with that? Is there a bit of a mantra that you're taking into the next 3 to 7 years, sort of like, I don't know anything that you're sort of working towards your head.
00;50;50;18 - 00;50;59;25
Charlotte
Yeah, yeah. I guess it is exciting. And I think that not only me, but all the girls this year have really stepped up, like.
00;50;59;28 - 00;51;00;17
Speaker 2
Massively.
00;51;00;18 - 00;51;31;09
Charlotte
Massively like we've got obviously Rochelle being the under 23 world champion. And then Tara as well with some really great results. So I think that like lots of us have really stepped up and we definitely needed to, and I think it was always possible to do it. We just needed to find like what was right for us and like, having, like, find what works for us and the extra support and stuff.
00;51;31;09 - 00;52;06;29
Charlotte
So. Yeah, but I guess going forward, yeah, it's it's exciting. And obviously love to, race some more races, and be competitive in them would be really nice. And then obviously some more World Cups and I definitely be now that I know I can do it. Like, definitely. Yeah. Chasing chasing those podiums now. Which I guess this time even a year ago I thought would have never been possible for me.
00;52;06;29 - 00;52;12;28
Charlotte
So yeah, the kind of the goals and the next steps that I want to take in the next few years.
00;52;13;01 - 00;52;20;11
Speaker 2
Are you taking it one by one? Yeah. Yeah. So you're not really looking at like or LA right now. It's kind of like, oh let's get these little steps first in place.
00;52;20;11 - 00;52;47;15
Charlotte
I think that every triathlete is looking at the Olympics like you're not just doing it to be there. And that's like the ultimate like the highest level of the sport. So you're obviously looking at that. But I guess it is three years away. And I do have goals between now and ally that I want to achieve now. That will all hopefully lead up to being in LA.
00;52;47;15 - 00;52;47;22
Charlotte
Yeah.
00;52;47;22 - 00;52;55;24
Speaker 2
Gain the processes right. Yeah. As you said I guess with you racing like not getting ahead of you. So yeah, I was just yesterday saying present again some mature.
00;52;55;27 - 00;52;58;16
Charlotte
What did you not expect this.
00;52;58;17 - 00;53;01;21
Speaker 1
Oh you does well you know.
00;53;01;23 - 00;53;05;29
Speaker 2
This is the final stage.
00;53;06;02 - 00;53;26;15
Speaker 2
Now that's really good. And like yeah we're super proud of you. Like that's it's so cool solid sort of. See you come from the disappointment of under 23 worlds last year. And again we were so upset to see sort of the result of that. And for you to like just sort of take that on the chin, go back to the drawing board, go on back to basics.
00;53;26;15 - 00;53;41;28
Speaker 2
What do I need to fix? And you've executed that very well. And like you just said, like yourself, two other under 20 threes and you've got a heap of juniors that are sort of come up this year as well. Like, like you said, two girls have stepped up. Yes. You see strong. Yeah. And like we're definitely stronger than the boys.
00;53;41;29 - 00;53;57;16
Speaker 2
Honestly. Like I mean you're in a good spot for sure. I think for the next 3 to 7 years, like you said it very early like Australia is coming back. I you got about it. You got to back it. Yeah I was a little bit takes a little bit of belief and I feel as if that's what you're saying now.
00;53;57;18 - 00;53;57;29
Charlotte
Yeah.
00;53;58;00 - 00;54;02;20
Speaker 2
Yeah, yeah I think that changes like a whole kind of system. Yeah.
00;54;02;22 - 00;54;12;09
Charlotte
And if everyone's like getting around each other and it has a positive attitude towards it, I think that's also just. Yeah, results will come in. Anything's possible for sure.
00;54;12;12 - 00;54;30;23
Speaker 2
Okay. Well that's enough serious stuff. Let's get some quickfire questions. Yeah. All right. You ready for this? I don't know, you've got. How long are we going to give her to answer these 10s you got 10s 10s? Yeah, I'm going to give a heartbeat. All right. You want to go first? I'll go first. Favorite location to race?
00;54;30;26 - 00;54;33;02
Speaker 2
00;54;34;16 - 00;54;41;14
Charlotte
I think Austria was really beautiful. Oh, yeah. Yeah, that was really pretty. That is good. Yeah. Austria. I really liked that place.
00;54;41;17 - 00;54;51;23
Speaker 2
I haven't put these in line. So if you're looking for what I've, I've found favorite like on the black on the driver. They get it from. What are we doing. The favorite leg in the triathlon.
00;54;51;26 - 00;54;53;25
Charlotte
I think running when you feel really good. Yeah.
00;54;53;25 - 00;54;55;06
Speaker 2
Say is.
00;54;55;08 - 00;54;56;16
Charlotte
On it. Yeah.
00;54;56;19 - 00;54;57;03
Speaker 2
Yeah.
00;54;57;05 - 00;54;57;27
Charlotte
Like on the bike.
00;54;57;29 - 00;54;58;05
Speaker 2
Yeah.
00;54;58;09 - 00;55;03;03
Speaker 1
I really like my left leg.
00;55;03;05 - 00;55;09;20
Speaker 2
Do you want it? Yeah. You've put it on the spot here. Favorite, favorite afterparty? I was going to say that.
00;55;09;25 - 00;55;13;21
Speaker 1
I think kids moon o-shot. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00;55;13;24 - 00;55;14;12
Charlotte
No was.
00;55;14;12 - 00;55;16;08
Speaker 2
Great. We had a good we had a good little crew there.
00;55;16;09 - 00;55;18;01
Charlotte
We did have it, but that was the crew.
00;55;18;08 - 00;55;22;23
Speaker 2
That was it. That was the story I told at the start of the year where I was like, I really don't want to go out. And then Sha and Tyler that like.
00;55;22;23 - 00;55;23;24
Charlotte
You did, though.
00;55;23;24 - 00;55;29;07
Speaker 2
I didn't want to then I but it does seem not wanting to go. No, I didn't, but it didn't take it didn't take.
00;55;29;09 - 00;55;31;10
Charlotte
It took like 10s of convincing.
00;55;31;10 - 00;55;33;12
Speaker 2
Yeah yeah yeah yeah I've got you a b.
00;55;33;15 - 00;55;35;03
Speaker 1
Oh yeah I'm fine.
00;55;35;07 - 00;55;35;29
Speaker 2
Do I am it is.
00;55;36;00 - 00;55;38;29
Speaker 1
Yeah.
00;55;39;01 - 00;55;42;07
Speaker 2
Who's the best roommate? Oh, yeah, we are Sister Brighton.
00;55;42;09 - 00;55;42;28
Charlotte
The best friend.
00;55;42;28 - 00;55;47;09
Speaker 2
Best and worst for first. So best first.
00;55;47;11 - 00;55;50;15
Charlotte
I really loved staying with Kira, okay, I think.
00;55;50;16 - 00;55;51;23
Speaker 2
Yeah. Worst.
00;55;51;25 - 00;55;52;15
Charlotte
I don't.
00;55;52;18 - 00;55;59;20
Speaker 2
Know. You have to go do it. Throw anyone under the bus. If you had to live with. You've lived in my bike. Share houses as well. I've been journaling.
00;55;59;23 - 00;56;02;18
Speaker 1
Yeah. Socks.
00;56;02;20 - 00;56;04;05
Speaker 2
I love, I love it be funny.
00;56;04;06 - 00;56;06;16
Charlotte
No one socks.
00;56;06;19 - 00;56;06;22
Speaker 2
You.
00;56;06;22 - 00;56;10;15
Charlotte
Tie one socks I don't I haven't had anyone really.
00;56;10;17 - 00;56;19;16
Speaker 2
I know lucky is shocking like he. No. You remember that time we were in Devonport and his stag over? He left like I was my triceps.
00;56;19;18 - 00;56;20;13
Speaker 1
Dude.
00;56;20;16 - 00;56;27;14
Speaker 2
Yeah. That's bad. Okay. Also sustainable myself, so. Yeah. No. Thank you. Yeah, I was sad. I had a bad rice leaving. We were.
00;56;27;14 - 00;56;27;28
Speaker 1
Leaving.
00;56;27;29 - 00;56;29;19
Speaker 2
We're leaving that day. Oh, no.
00;56;29;21 - 00;56;31;19
Charlotte
Fuck. I don't have a worst, guys.
00;56;31;19 - 00;56;33;27
Speaker 2
Thanks for Aaron at my little dirty laundry.
00;56;33;29 - 00;56;35;26
Speaker 1
Okay.
00;56;35;28 - 00;56;51;13
Speaker 2
Right. This might be gone because I know, I think I obviously had you in my, For anybody that doesn't know, one of our first episodes we did. I think we did like, a recap on the year, and we were coming off off season, and one of the big, one of our segments that we did was the making of Stream Team.
00;56;51;20 - 00;57;08;02
Speaker 2
And it was essentially we were picking, mixed team relay of our four people that we would want to go to make an ass with. Yeah. Right. So you pick, two guys, two girls, and you're the captain. You're the captain of the team, and this is your team, the you're taking the mic. And also it nothing to do with athletic ability.
00;57;08;04 - 00;57;16;15
Speaker 2
Yeah, yeah, nothing to do with athletic ability is purely who you'd want to party with the making us. Yeah. Who shot it and say your captain, by the way. Who you.
00;57;16;18 - 00;57;19;08
Charlotte
Yeah. Of course. Yeah.
00;57;19;11 - 00;57;21;12
Speaker 1
You know, all the time.
00;57;21;13 - 00;57;36;28
Charlotte
And captain, it's pretty hard to go past, obviously. You, me, Brighton and Tara. Yeah. That's it. We've had some some really good times. That's kind of the squad when we're all together on the rise. I'm like, yeah, they're going to be.
00;57;36;29 - 00;57;43;21
Speaker 2
I feel like we made them and I think we have fun. Like in and out of the right. Yeah, it's like we always tend to race out pretty well and then like the trip around, it's always fun.
00;57;43;21 - 00;57;54;20
Charlotte
Yeah. But then outside of that, some other boys I think can be shown that. Hey, yeah, hey. Like a party. Yeah. And I think Tyler miss that could also be.
00;57;54;26 - 00;58;03;10
Speaker 2
You fill out the same size here. Yeah. You got two guys. Two girls. Yeah. Another girl. You've got lucky. Well, you've got four guys now.
00;58;03;13 - 00;58;03;28
Charlotte
True.
00;58;03;29 - 00;58;05;06
Speaker 2
Two guys, two girls.
00;58;05;09 - 00;58;05;28
Charlotte
Sorry.
00;58;05;28 - 00;58;07;13
Speaker 2
I really appreciate that.
00;58;07;15 - 00;58;09;05
Charlotte
Nine. That's my main team.
00;58;09;05 - 00;58;10;20
Speaker 2
Fuck, yeah. Yeah. One more girl.
00;58;10;20 - 00;58;12;04
Charlotte
When we go, no one will go.
00;58;12;04 - 00;58;13;13
Speaker 2
You need to blow in.
00;58;13;16 - 00;58;16;11
Charlotte
I do.
00;58;16;13 - 00;58;18;27
Speaker 2
I thought it'd be obvious. Hey, I'll see you in April.
00;58;18;29 - 00;58;20;29
Charlotte
Oh, yeah. Bria. Thank you.
00;58;21;01 - 00;58;22;15
Speaker 2
Yeah, yeah. Three so much fun to play.
00;58;22;16 - 00;58;23;16
Charlotte
Yeah. Let's go bro.
00;58;23;16 - 00;58;25;00
Speaker 2
Yeah, that's pretty good. Oceania.
00;58;25;01 - 00;58;28;04
Charlotte
Yeah yeah yeah. Oh, on. Obviously.
00;58;28;06 - 00;58;28;14
Speaker 1
Yeah.
00;58;28;14 - 00;58;31;22
Speaker 2
Lifting up the bees. Oceania trophies. Taking on the euros.
00;58;31;27 - 00;58;32;28
Charlotte
Yeah yeah. Mugabe.
00;58;32;29 - 00;58;37;02
Speaker 2
That's good. Oh that was nice. That was very quick in that last one. But yeah that's all right.
00;58;37;05 - 00;58;38;04
Charlotte
That was sorry a bit more.
00;58;38;04 - 00;58;39;28
Speaker 2
Than it needed some time.
00;58;40;01 - 00;58;41;12
Charlotte
To explain. Yeah.
00;58;41;15 - 00;58;43;01
Speaker 2
Thanks for coming on dubs. Yeah.
00;58;43;01 - 00;58;43;23
Charlotte
Thanks for having me.
00;58;43;25 - 00;58;48;19
Speaker 2
She's the best of luck. Thank you. Next year, enjoy your, two weeks. Yeah. Two weeks of.
00;58;48;19 - 00;58;49;18
Charlotte
That. Two weeks. Yeah.
00;58;49;19 - 00;58;50;09
Speaker 2
Nice.
00;58;50;12 - 00;58;51;20
Charlotte
And say guys out again.
00;58;51;20 - 00;58;53;07
Speaker 2
You know.
00;58;53;10 - 00;58;53;19
Speaker 1
We saw.
00;58;53;21 - 00;58;55;02
Speaker 2
What looked like two weeks locked.
00;58;55;02 - 00;58;57;03
Speaker 1
In. No, no.
00;58;57;06 - 00;59;21;17
Speaker 2
Let's see it. Five tonight. Now thank you very much. And again, huge congrats on not only the race on the weekend, but all your work as a junior like you overcoming sort of the speed humps in the last few years. Like, it's it's encouraging. And I think a lot of, people that listen to this and hear about this will find your story encouraging that a successful junior.
00;59;21;20 - 00;59;36;23
Speaker 2
Yes, you will have some speed bumps, but there is light at the end of the tunnel. And if you all have if you are experiencing that like and I'm sure you'd be happy to reach out, to reach out to people that are older than you. Always happy to chat. Yeah, you can get a look at DMs now so yeah, well what's the Insta dubs?
00;59;36;23 - 00;59;38;14
Charlotte
It's desolate. Derbyshire.
00;59;38;17 - 00;59;42;00
Speaker 2
Nice. Derbyshire. Yeah. Oh so it's just. Yeah.
00;59;42;03 - 00;59;44;18
Charlotte
Everyone says it wrong but it's Derbyshire. It's a.
00;59;44;18 - 00;59;47;08
Speaker 2
Class. Derbyshire. Derbyshire. It's so.
00;59;47;08 - 00;59;48;16
Charlotte
Classy.
00;59;48;18 - 00;59;49;08
Speaker 1
Simon.
00;59;49;10 - 00;59;55;16
Speaker 2
All righty. That's a wrap. Thank you very much, you guys. Yeah. We'll see you soon. Oh.