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Welcome to Praydate, a sacred yet unfiltered conversation space hosted by Christa B. Allen & Victoria Daniel , where prayer meets real life - the questions, paradoxes, shame, beauty, and breakthroughs. We open every episode with prayer, grounding ourselves in love, unity, and reverence for all paths, then step boldly into raw conversations about truths many are too afraid to say out loud. Nothing is off-limits, covering topics from the problem of evil to sexual shame and the sacred choice of singleness. This show is for anyone seeking to rediscover prayer as a daily act of courage, honesty, and connection.
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Victoria Daniel: [00:00:00] Welcome
Christa B. Allen: to Praydate.
Victoria Daniel: I am Victoria Daniel.
Christa B. Allen: And I'm Christa B. Allen. And together we're creating a space that's both real and deeply rooted in Love
Victoria Daniel: On Pray date. We are not afraid to tackle the really big questions. Like if God is good, why does evil even exist in the world in the first place?
Christa B. Allen: And we'll dive into shame how it's been used to control our bodies.
Christa B. Allen: Our choices, even our desires, and I'll share some of my own journey of reclaiming that power.
Victoria Daniel: We will also completely reframe things. Culture often tells us our flaws like singleness. What if being single isn't a failure at all, but a sole sacred choice for growth?
Christa B. Allen: We will wrestle with integrity because if every thought word and action of yours were broadcast for the entire universe to see, would you be proud?
Christa B. Allen: These are real conversations.
Victoria Daniel: Sometimes they're messy, sometimes they are funny, but they are always sacred.
Christa B. Allen: Pray. Date [00:01:00] is your commitment to yourself and the divine to maintain that connection every day. So please bring your scars, your doubts, your prayers, your stories, all of you. Because prayer is not about perfection.
Christa B. Allen: It is simply about presence. May the words we share become seeds of kindness in the world. May the light in each of us shine bright and so it is. Ah, amen. Shalom, oh, a ho, a shade. Shalom, may every being
Victoria Daniel: everywhere. No blessing. This is pray date and we truly cannot wait to sit with you. Hello, lovely lady.
Victoria Daniel: Good day and welcome. I'm so excited for our first episode of Pray Date,
Christa B. Allen: our first episode. This is so exciting. I'm so excited. I, this has been a long time coming. We have been producing this show actually for a couple of months. Yes, we've [00:02:00] come back to film and this is a very
Victoria Daniel: special day to be filming on everybody.
Christa B. Allen: So just a, a small amount of backstory. So we tried to film yesterday. The studio wasn't available. This was kind of our only opportunity. And today is Luna's birthday. Uh, baby Luna Luna was is my baby girl who, uh, my dog who passed about a month and a half ago, and Victoria. God bless your heart was so there for me, um, going through the passing of my girl.
Christa B. Allen: So I just wanna say thank you for being there for that and for being there for
Victoria Daniel: this. Oh my goodness. Of course. I feel like that also on that trip, we went on to celebrate Luna. We definitely got a lot closer. Did we come up with this idea or did you, did you graciously ask me to be a part of this podcast after or before that?
Victoria Daniel: Well, so Prete.
Christa B. Allen: As a concept we had [00:03:00] been talking about for a while, right? I tried to do the podcast by myself. I was not having it, it did
Victoria Daniel: not work out. I mean, Christa is also the most well-spoken person, so very well, could have had the most successful podcast on
Christa B. Allen: her own. You're very sweet. Um, but I was just sort of, I tried it, I wasn't feeling it.
Christa B. Allen: Um, and then Victoria has the most brilliant ideas and really figures out how to take concepts. That people have and birth them into the world. And so I will accept that.
Victoria Daniel: I'll
Christa B. Allen: accept that. And so, um, on this trip. Where we were celebrating Luna's life, we started having all the conversations about how to bring this show into the world.
Christa B. Allen: And so that's yeah, really where it was. We conceived Pray Date on Andrea. So we are bringing Pray Date to life. And now your idea for our first episode is born on, on Luna's [00:04:00] birthday. So that's really poetic and beautiful, how that worked out. And um, thank you for being here.
Victoria Daniel: Thank you for
Christa B. Allen: having me here.
Christa B. Allen: Thank you for being here. Welcome to Predate. You know, it's not often in this lifetime. I feel you have such a, a deep and instant connection with somebody who, you know, really connects on every level. We work together. We talk about some of the deepest things together, and I love our conversations, Victoria, because you are one of the few people I've ever met who approaches life from such a perspective of non-judgment, right?
Christa B. Allen: Um. You know, we find ourselves in like these funny situations. We're in the, the business of people, we're in the people business. The hardest business to be in, everybody. Um, so, you know, often like emotions run high and we end up in these like pretty, uh. Treacherous precarious situations. And a lot of people are very quick to judge and [00:05:00] be like, oh, that's terrible, or That person is bad, or That's good, or whatever.
Christa B. Allen: And Vic and I, when we talk about these things, it's like we both see it from the perspective of maybe it's good, maybe it's bad, it's a little good, it's a little bad. It's both. Um, and I really appreciate that.
Victoria Daniel: Listen, I believe that there is good in everybody. Right, like we are all God's children. We were all made to be good.
Victoria Daniel: Some people stray the wrong way sometimes and do some very questionable things, but you can always find good in somebody. And I feel like, I feel like we're put through difficult situations in life, but we are put through very difficult, challenging situations in life to grow and to learn from them.
Victoria Daniel: Right. And it's something that I feel like we both very quickly together have also experienced, but I live by this, I live by the phrase life makes sense in reverse. Mm-hmm. Right. What you are [00:06:00] going through now will make sense later and. We're put through these challenges for a reason. They, they shape who we are.
Christa B. Allen: And once you've lived enough life and been through enough challenges, you almost can, looking at it from in reverse, you almost can look back on those challenges and be grateful for the challenges. You're like, oh, I would not have been able to handle my life today, had that challenging situation, not grown me in this specific way.
Christa B. Allen: For sure.
Victoria Daniel: I've had so many lives, girl, I'm not kidding my, we lived a thousand lives. My friend on my 35th birthday wrote me and she's like, you made it. I'm like, what do you mean? I made it? And she was like, you've just been through a lot. I'm like, yeah. Well, I mean, I can't believe she said that. Yeah. Listen.
Victoria Daniel: This, this woman has been with me through a lot too. And there is, needless to say, been a lot of [00:07:00] physical challenges in my life, for sure, like in the health space. So I'm not surprised that she called and said that and like, girl, I made 35. I'm gonna make it to a hundred. I actually think I would make it to 111.
Victoria Daniel: That is my number. Um, but that being said, you know. Physical challenges have the emotional side to them too. For sure. Like I am a very positive person. I always find a way to, yes, I believe that things happen for a reason, and I believe that everything that I've been through has happened for a reason, and I'll definitely tell my story on here.
Victoria Daniel: But you know, the one thing that still gets me and really is an emotional thing is whenever. I start to not feel well in the littlest of ways. I get so scared and I'm like, oh my God, I can't go through what I went through. Again, this can't be happening. Like I have so much going on in my life and I have so many things to do.
Victoria Daniel: I can't [00:08:00] afford to get sick like I did last time. Right? And I know it's not gonna happen. It's not gonna happen to me. And sometimes it does. And I, in those times. I don't wanna say go to a very dark place, but I go to a place where I sit there and I'm, I just, I question everything.
Christa B. Allen: Hmm.
Victoria Daniel: And I'm like, why is this happening?
Victoria Daniel: Like, I've been so good. I've been taking such good care of myself, and it's, it is the one thing that I deal with most often. That really affects me in a way where I just sit back and I like. We will start to freak out like what's gonna happen. And that's a very emotional thing, but the relationship side of things and all that trauma girl, you've got covered for the most of us.
Victoria Daniel: And I, I also, to be fair, I think that your and i's difficulties and struggles are very different. I think yours are a lot on [00:09:00] the. Emotional trauma and relationships such as that. Mine are much more on the health side, which is probably why I got that. Um, not to say that that doesn't have a lot of emotional trauma too.
Victoria Daniel: Mm-hmm. Right. When you're put through scary health situations, it's, it's challenging for sure. And I think that goes into almost a, by the way, the big topic we're talking about today, which is. The Epicurean paradox, right? It is the question that everybody goes through, which is, if there is an all good, almighty, all powerful God, why do pain and suffering happen?
Victoria Daniel: Right? And it's a theological statement, yes, but it's also a very personal one because. When you are going through the hardest struggles in your life and the very personal ones, that is when you were sitting there and you're like, God, why is this happening?
Christa B. Allen: Our challenges have been many, [00:10:00] everyone struggles in this lifetime.
Christa B. Allen: Um, but I, I feel like our challenges have been quite different, you and I. Um, and by the way, Victoria and I see each other almost every day, and you know, she's still. You have challenges that other people don't have, and on the health side, and I will say like I have never seen somebody with so much grace, and this woman works so hard, she's so focused and such an advocate for.
Christa B. Allen: The people that she cares for in her life. And she's tireless the way she works for them and with them and on their behalf. And I, I, I mean, I, I just, I watch you in awe truly because you would never know what you've been through. You carry it with such grace. And I know that it's, uh, it's not easy. And so for me, like as your friend, as your partner, like witnessing.
Christa B. Allen: How you [00:11:00] handle that. Um, it's, it's really inspiring to watch. That's very kind. Thank you. I just hope that, that anyone watching, you know, can take that as, as an example, like no matter what you're going through, you can still handle it with grace and with love, and I just love watching the way you move through the world.
Christa B. Allen: I
Victoria Daniel: appreciate that. It's really special. I mean, listen, I actually think that I. Well, I, I firmly believe in life. If you don't love who you work with and love what you do, to some degree, what is life seriously? 'cause so much of our lives now are work, especially at our age, right? Like, maybe we'll retire, God knows what age, if I ever decide not to work.
Victoria Daniel: But if you don't really love who you work with and get excited every day, one, you're not gonna have the energy to do it. Like I know myself, if I'm sitting behind a computer typing out emails all day long, it's just going to drain me. If I [00:12:00] am in meetings, if I'm coming up with creative ideas, like if I'm excited about who I'm working with, I have a battery that will not run out.
Victoria Daniel: Mm, that's true. I've seen it. It is no joke. And I truly, at this point right now, I love who I'm working with. I want to go to bat for them. I wanna create majoring projects with them for them. And it's, it's such a blessing 'cause so many people don't have that.
Christa B. Allen: And, and my journey obviously has been a little different.
Christa B. Allen: Um, I like to say Hollywood was my first abusive relationship. So then when I've kind of ended up in these other circumstances over time that were, you know, complicated and whatever, I'm like, of course I did, because. Hollywood abused me first. And it's so funny because everyone has these stories as child actors where, you know, they grew up and they were [00:13:00] addicted to drugs or had some other tragic thing happen.
Christa B. Allen: Um, and I feel like fortunately I escaped most of that, um, or avoided most of that. But yeah, I, I have been unable to. Avoid modeling my dynamic with, uh, with a another person after what happened in in Hollywood.
Victoria Daniel: Uh, it's almost like they say you marry your dad. Right,
Christa B. Allen: right, right. It's the same I'm Or, or look for them.
Christa B. Allen: Or look for them. For sure. Yeah. Yeah. So, um, and you know, it's trauma all the same. And the point of all of it is to grow you. And the point is to overcome and to learn. And I also say I'm not a victim of what I've been through. I am someone who has [00:14:00] learned from it, and that's always going to be my purpose is to learn and to help other women and grow from what we go through.
Christa B. Allen: So that brings us to. The topic of today, which I think for so many people, their spiritual journey kind of begins at rock bottom where you can't see another way out. Your world is darkness. It feels like you're out of options. Um, and I think that's the place where a lot of people find God, really find God.
Christa B. Allen: Mm-hmm. So that brings us to the Epicurean paradox, right? This is the classic question of if God is willing to prevent evil, but unable, then he is not omnipotent. If he is able, but not willing, then he is [00:15:00] malevolent. If he is both able and willing, then whence comes evil. Um, so the idea is. Basically, if an evil exists in the world, or suffering exists in the world, where is God in that equation?
Christa B. Allen: And it feels like the place that you and I have come to and a lot of people have come to is that the suffering is actually. A benefit to you. It's there for your soul's growth, for your evolution. And some would argue that your soul, before even coming into this physical body, chose your journey because you knew you were going to experience that specific growth.
Victoria Daniel: And I think this is a question that everybody has, and you're so right. You don't think about it until you are in a situation where you've either hit rock bottom or. S something is happening to you where you're just sitting there like, God, why is this happening? [00:16:00] Right? And why if you are this all good almighty, all powerful being, are you allowing this suffering to happen?
Victoria Daniel: But the reality of it is, if suffering didn't happen, we would never have to grow and we would never be able to relate to people. On the level that we are able to, because the real way, I believe, to connect with people is through the hardships that you've been through, right? There's something we said for yes you can.
Victoria Daniel: You know, you can have a superficial relationship with somebody and have a million friends, but your closest friends know everything about you, and they know your hardest times, and you can come to them during your hardest times, and a lot of times you feel you can come to them because they've shared their hard times with you.
Victoria Daniel: And it's like when you meet somebody and you guys bond over an ex-boyfriend, right? Trauma bonding is such a real thing. It is such a real thing, but it's because you connect so deeply with that person [00:17:00] automatically. 'cause you have that shared experience
Christa B. Allen: and, and some would say the other reason for that suffering is so that you will seek God so that you will involve.
Christa B. Allen: This eternal, endless force in everything you do, and you realize that you actually don't have to go through it on your own. You don't have to be alone. You can make God your partner in everything you do. You make God your partner in business, in romance, in life, and you don't have to rely on your own wisdom, your own understanding.
Christa B. Allen: You partner with God. And perhaps that is another reason for the suffering we experience.
Victoria Daniel: For sure. I mean, we all know we are God's children. He guides us through the world, right? So, um, no, no question there at all. We are, [00:18:00] we all have a chosen path and it's a really scary thought, right? Like you said, what if.
Victoria Daniel: What if all these things were planned before we even came to the world, right? What if the, the heartbreak and the pain and the suffering, it was all part of God's plan, then there's a reason and there's an outcome for it, and it's the same thing. I remember, and this is a, a story that you told me that I hope you don't mind me sharing, but a really good friend of yours passed away in a car accident, a drunk driving accident, and after that, his family.
Victoria Daniel: Which is such a terrible thing to lose a child. But they really went on with that to create a much bigger mission and to start a charity about raising money for, what was it, drunk driving. Yeah, drunk driving and all of this. And it turned into something much larger. And so, which probably saved a lot of people and helped a lot of families, right?
Victoria Daniel: Yeah.
Christa B. Allen: Uh, yeah, I, [00:19:00] I will say actually my. My spiritual journey has been, you know, years and years in the making Now. And I've explored in so many different ways. You know, I was raised roughly Christian, um, parts of my family are very Mormon. And then, you know, growing up in Hollywood I had like a lot of Jewish influence.
Christa B. Allen: Um, so I've like explored different religions and understandings and spiritual paths and whatever, but I, I kind of. The truth is I love 'em all. I love parts from all of them. I wanna wrap 'em. That is why we started this podcast. It's about unity. It's about involving all beliefs and all people. Nobody's excluded.
Christa B. Allen: Um, it's all paths to the same destination anyway, but, um. You know, and I went and I did plant medicine and you know, Costa Rica and whatever, and,
Victoria Daniel: but I've always wanted to do that, but it kind of scares me. Yeah. As it should. Also, everybody, I dunno if you can hear this, my stomach is rumbling and the microphone's right here, so [00:20:00]
Christa B. Allen: it has a lot to say.
Victoria Daniel: So just ignore that.
Christa B. Allen: It's confirmation your stomach is,
Victoria Daniel: yeah. Dunno what's going on. Um,
Christa B. Allen: hash brown
Victoria Daniel: and Mojo just offered me a hash brown.
Christa B. Allen: Um. It. I've always been a seeker. I've always just loved knowledge and learning. It's just delicious to me and, and on my spiritual journey. Um, often I would question the existence of God because you don't have like a.
Christa B. Allen: Like a face-to-face experience. It feels like there's no tangible proof. Um, and then actually my plant medicine journey was, was part of that, making that understanding like really solid for me. Um, but the one question I really still had was when my friend died because I saw what his family [00:21:00] went through and what we all went through.
Christa B. Allen: And it just didn't make any sense. It was so sudden and it was so, it didn't make any sense to me, and it was the one lingering question I had was, why would God take my friend and take it was the one question I couldn't answer, and the only way I was ever able to make sense of it was. That it must be for our growth and as you said, the way that his family became advocates in the world afterward for, you know, advocating against drunk driving and the countless lives they've most likely saved because of it.
Christa B. Allen: Um, so it was the only way I could make sense of it. And um, and again, you know, those experiences end up being catalysts for our [00:22:00] understanding. And not to make it, not that it makes it any less painful, but it, it was kind of like the last lingering question for me that I needed to answer and I was on a journey to answer it.
Christa B. Allen: And that's the answer that I found.
Victoria Daniel: So you went on a plant medicine journey for this?
Christa B. Allen: Uh, yeah. Not specifically related to that, but um. I had, I had had friends for years mention, you know, their experiences with Ayahuasca and it was often in a like, kind of a, a way that it was. Treated very lightly. Like, oh yeah, we're gonna go do ayahuasca.
Christa B. Allen: Like, so fun. It's such an LA thing.
Victoria Daniel: It's like, let's go it. I'm gonna go to arrhythmia and I'm gonna do ayahuasca. And I'm like, that sounds fun. I'll go for the weekend. And then I, by the way, when I do deep dives on Reddit, I'm like down the rabbit hole and I'm like reading these crazy things. But it's a very intense process.
Victoria Daniel: It's not, you go away for a weekend arrhythmia.
Christa B. Allen: Yeah. Or [00:23:00] like. What I was hearing from my friends was like, let's go to, you know, Sarah's house for the weekend and go like, she has a shaman. Like, we're gonna go in that way. And, and I, I actually did go to Rhythmia. The reason I chose that was because it was a very.
Christa B. Allen: Contained environment. You know, they have incredible health resources. Like if anything,
Victoria Daniel: if I went anywhere, I would go there. It's like one of the only places that has a medical staff on board, all these things. But the way that it was presented was literally a group of girls who were like, oh, we're gonna go to Arrhythmia for the week.
Victoria Daniel: Yeah. And I was like, that sounds so fun. I wanna go. And I looked at it and you have to prepare to go to arrhythmia. And then it's like you don't eat for the week and you drink this tea. And I'm like, I wanna go on a vacation where I'm like by a beach. Drinking a virgin pina colada.
Christa B. Allen: Right. Vacation is different.
Christa B. Allen: It's different. A journey, a spiritual journey, a journey is different. Is is something to be treated with respect and reverence. And
Victoria Daniel: I also think that you can only go on those journeys when they're really calling you. Exactly [00:24:00] that. Yeah. I don't know if it's gonna be a good idea for ever go, but um, but I respect all the people that have gone 'cause they've had major breakthroughs.
Victoria Daniel: For sure.
Christa B. Allen: Yeah. So I had been hearing from my friends for a decade about how great it is and they found God and all this stuff, and I was like, I don't know. It just, it never called to me until one day out of the blue. I hadn't thought about it. I hadn't spoken to anyone about it. I just, I do my best to stay.
Christa B. Allen: Connected and stay in conversation with my higher power. And I got a, a command and it was like, you know, God herself calling me, you must come now. We gotta talk. And I was like, but I don't wanna go. Like that doesn't sound like an easy thing to go get on a plane and go, you know. Purge in the jungle for a week straight.
Christa B. Allen: And it's not, it's, it's a commitment. And [00:25:00] you're in classes all day long Yeah. To integrate and it's, it's work, it's spiritual work. It's like, you know, the, the closet of like. Books and papers piled up that you have to organize and make sense of it's, it is the work. Um, so it wasn't like, oh, let me go do a fun thing.
Christa B. Allen: It was being called and, and I, I did it and I have no regrets and I haven't been, I haven't felt the call to go back since. Mm-hmm. So, yeah, for me it's not like a.
Christa B. Allen: Let's go, you know, get an ice cream and do something fun. No, it's like, ugh, fuck. I gotta go.
Victoria Daniel: Yeah, because you and I are gonna like the South of France on our vacation girl. Yeah, I'll go to the jungle somewhere, but I don't know if it's gonna be to do that. At least not for a while. Yes. But I will say that I grew like same thing.
Victoria Daniel: I explore all religions. I know about all religions. I've studied a lot of religions in school. I, you know, my step family was Jewish. I went to Temple [00:26:00] with them. I went to Batan Bar Mitzvahs all the time. And then I was baptized, cath, uh, I was baptized Presbyterian and I went to a Catholic university and went to church every Sunday.
Victoria Daniel: So, but I also feel like people, it seems very, like sometimes religion seems very daunting. Like you have to go to church every Sunday. You have to get down on your knees and pray and all of these things. But that's not really the reality of it. And I think you and I have talked about that a lot, how prayer can just be a part of your everyday life and everything that you do, which once you recognize that, I think it changes your perspective on things a lot.
Victoria Daniel: Mm-hmm. Like God is always with you. Mm-hmm. And if you know that and you know that he's guiding you, it's a very calming, reassuring feeling. Mm-hmm.
Christa B. Allen: Yeah. And prayer doesn't have to be an appointment. This is not flossing your teeth. It's not a, it's not a another box to check. It's a, it's a way We've got enough boxes to check girl.
Christa B. Allen: There's so many [00:27:00] boxes. There's too many boxes. Um, yeah. It's, um, it can, it can really be if you, if you really understand that God is with you always and never leaves you, it, it's just, it becomes a way of life. So I
Victoria Daniel: think another, another thing that plays into this is really free will, right? Like if, if God eliminated all suffering, then he would eliminate all choice, right?
Victoria Daniel: And without choice you kind of eliminate all love, you eliminate all questions and. I, our life is about choices. Mm-hmm. Right? I wanna feel like we've earned it. We have to feel like we've earned it. So when you think about all of these things and you think about God's plan and and questioning why the situations are happening, whatever the situation is, again, it [00:28:00] goes back to the fact that you have to just understand there's a reason and that we're put through these challenges.
Victoria Daniel: Right. What was the quote that I said the other day on social media? Maybe your
Christa B. Allen: path is harder because your calling calling is higher. Is higher. So true. And then you start to be thankful for those difficult moments, you know? And that's where the gratitude comes in. You become grateful for the hard times and grateful for the good times in equal measure.
Christa B. Allen: In fact.
Victoria Daniel: If there were no hard times, you wouldn't know to be grateful for the good times.
Christa B. Allen: That's right. The valleys highlight the peaks. There's even a version of this where they say, if in your darkest hour you are happy because. That Darkest Hour has the [00:29:00] greatest opportunity for transformation. And then in your highest moment, in your moment of most success, and you know you have the career and the love and the family and the house, like whatever it is to you, if in that moment you ask, why me?
Christa B. Allen: Why me? Why all of these blessings for me? Then you'll be even more blessed. So it's almost the opposite of what people think. Most people will think like, well, when times are good we're celebrate, then we, we thank God. And when times are tough, we kind of curse our situation and curse God and and all of it.
Christa B. Allen: But if you flip that and you're grateful in the hard times and ask why me in the great times, then you'll be even more blessed than ever. And notice all of it involves God. And bringing God into the conversation and relying on the creator of all things, [00:30:00] whether things are great or not so great. So we asked a question of our audience and um, got some beautiful responses.
Christa B. Allen: So the question we asked of our audience was, why do you think hard things happen? Why is there suffering? And we got some beautiful responses and we would love to share one here on the show.
MoJo: You can be driving vibing, you know, completely zoned in, and a car hits you and then it completely derails your life.
MoJo: Well, what are you gonna do about that? That wasn't in your control at all, and that might be the circle of life of suffering, and it sucks. I mean, hopefully at the end of this life, it'll be perfect, but until then, all we can do is learn. So why do you think hard things happen and why is there suffering in your life?
MoJo: What have I learned? Where did that protect me from? Struggles come in, people who are really built to overcome them, and there is lessons for them to be able to be stronger for their purpose. That's coming [00:31:00] in later.
Christa B. Allen: Uh, it's really beautiful. Thank you, mojo. Thank you for calling me. Thanks for sharing. It's so good.
Christa B. Allen: What I love about that, there are two things, um, and one is that in that answer, he's taking radical responsibility. Mm-hmm. I love that and I think a lot of times people are scared of taking responsibility of like, oh, that fell apart because of me. Uh, actually that was my fault actually. Up people play the victim card.
Christa B. Allen: They play the victim, and when you play the victim, you are the effect of a situation. Mm-hmm. Rather than being the cause. And we always wanna be the cause, not just being knocked about by the waves. We want to be the entire ocean and be the cause. And so I think that's really [00:32:00] beautiful. He's taking responsibility.
Christa B. Allen: And the other part that I love is that he's transmuting his suffering. He's turning his suffering into something. Beautiful.
Victoria Daniel: Mm-hmm.
Christa B. Allen: He said, you know, he's gone through, he's had his particular challenges and he used those learnings after the challenges as an opportunity to help someone else. You know, it's very, each one teach one.
Christa B. Allen: And um, and I think that's beautiful because in that way you turn something, something dark into something light. That's very lovely. Thank you. Mojo. Yes. Thank you for sharing. Very
Victoria Daniel: beautiful. So, um, for our first episode, we, we conquered the most difficult question of all.
Christa B. Allen: Yeah, no big deal. We just answered the hardest question to ever face humanity.
Christa B. Allen: Feel free to ride in
Victoria Daniel: and ask [00:33:00] us any questions now. Not bad for our first episode. In all honesty. We are so excited to be here. I am so excited to be here sitting with you, and we can't wait to sit with you on our next episode. Yes, it's a date. It is a date, a pray date.