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S6 EP16 | The studio demands a new entry into the very niche body-swap genre that can succeed in making that delicious four-quadrant movie money. How does one achieve this? Body-swap two franchise characters into each other's respective films.
Two screenwriters attempt to recreate, reimagine, or flat out fix, existing film franchises when 'the studio' demands...MORE FILMS! It's an exercise in creative thinking where they will challenge themselves to conceptualize, pitch, and craft a film based on the stipulations of a hypothetical Hollywood overlord. | Sixfive Media
Hello. And well, welcome to the studio demands it and exercise in creative thinking where we will conceptualize and and and and and pitch a we'll craft a film or a series based on the demands from one of you listeners acting as a hypothetical Hollywood overlord. Overlord. As professional screenwriters ourselves and a mass of cine files, this is why you should do this. We talk movies all the time.
Speaker 2:All the time.
Speaker 1:And we'd like to believe that we can meet any demand thrown at us. We will be your screenwriters for this episode. I am mean, I'm I'm TC I think you're joining me as always, this is across from me right here is Jim, Definitely not in TC's body, Brazellic. Hello, Jim. Well, come on.
Speaker 1:Hey. Yeah. Okay. I can't I can't do it. You can't do a TC impression?
Speaker 2:No. Can't. No.
Speaker 1:Yes. So God.
Speaker 2:That that's what I sound like to you? That's what I sound like to
Speaker 1:you? Okay. No. Okay. No.
Speaker 1:I can do better. I can do better. There's a little more little more Charlie day in the midst here. Oh my god. Hello, everyone.
Speaker 1:Welcome to the show. I'm TC. That's Jim.
Speaker 2:Oh.
Speaker 1:This is screenwriting show. What are you eyeing?
Speaker 2:I'm just thinking of what was going through my head to do as impression
Speaker 1:of you. Oh my god. David, our beloved godfather of this show, apparently does an impression of me that I have never seen. Yeah. I've walked into the room just after he's done it and got a big laugh forever.
Speaker 1:However, I just walked into a room, and he's he's, you know, he's obviously, I've had he's my friend. I've known him for my whole life, practically. But he won't do his impression of me to me. You I yeah. I I yeah.
Speaker 2:That's your impression of me. I understand.
Speaker 1:No. You're way more eloquent and use $5 words, and that's just that was my on the spot realizing that's how I should open the show.
Speaker 2:Sure.
Speaker 1:Because today, we're doing body swap, Jim.
Speaker 2:Body swap,
Speaker 1:Jim. Body swap, Jim. Had I had I
Speaker 2:That sounds good. Like a a terrible knock off comic book character.
Speaker 1:Body
Speaker 2:swap. I'm body swap Jim.
Speaker 1:Yeah. Hey. You know, you'd probably get away with him more if you didn't announce it every time you walked into a room. Oh my god. It's Batman.
Speaker 1:No. It's not. It's body shop.
Speaker 2:Body body swap. Body swap gym. Not to be mistaken with body shop gym. Different guy makes way more money.
Speaker 1:You know what I noticed about Jim's comic book creations? He'll create something like spider's web, and then his bad guy is spider webs. And did you notice he he came up with body swap Jim, and his bad guy was just body shop Jim. You know he came that up because he just said the word wrong.
Speaker 2:These are these are gold. These characters, they would make
Speaker 1:Body shop. A mint. Body shop.
Speaker 2:Body shop. Is a third character entirely.
Speaker 1:Body shot, Jim.
Speaker 2:And that's a fourth. Stop making the characters. I can't incorporate
Speaker 1:all of We have a gymstas league of characters.
Speaker 2:A gymstas. We are the gymstas league. They don't agree on whether they're good guys or bad guys.
Speaker 1:Yep. Yep. They have a very sordid history. Mhmm. Some are more beardy than others.
Speaker 1:Yes. What what the bizarro Jimzaro version, that's the beard, but it's the back of the head. So it's just a long
Speaker 2:I have a question. Yeah. So are they all just Jims or are they me? Are you doing are they if they're variations of me Mhmm. Mhmm.
Speaker 2:Bizarro Jim wouldn't be Bizarro Jim. He'd be Bizarro Jim.
Speaker 1:These comics will be available. Jim will write these. Not this Jim. I'm talking about comic book writer Jim.
Speaker 2:Comic Jim. Yeah. Comic Jim.
Speaker 1:Jim Lee, weirdly, is is his name.
Speaker 2:So they'll be ridiculous, but also beautiful.
Speaker 1:Yeah. Yeah. They'll they will the envy of all other comic book artists. It
Speaker 2:will change how art in comics is done for a decade.
Speaker 1:It's true. Okay. Jim, our amazing listeners have given us demands from studios literally all over the world. And you listening now, you can send us any demand you'd like, and we will have to meet them right here on the spot. And when we reach the end of the episode, if we've done our jobs, we will have pitched a full script or story meeting or even exceeding those demands.
Speaker 1:And when the end of the season comes, your demands could have helped us craft the script that will be greenlit by the fans for our finale. Thank you everyone who has submitted. Please keep them coming. As I said in conjunction with a Freaky Friday
Speaker 2:Mhmm.
Speaker 1:I did a little I was like, we're gonna do a body swap. So knowing that, I word searched Freaky Friday. Have one demand.
Speaker 2:Oh, okay.
Speaker 1:This comes from Barry Gold at what happened to Clippy Studios. What happened to Clippy Studios? What happened I'm literally holding a paper clip right now. You sure are. Woah.
Speaker 1:Barry, can you hear me and see me in real time? That's really strange.
Speaker 2:Now we have to wait for his his email.
Speaker 1:Stay tuned for Barry's response. Okay. Alright. Let's see what he's got. Freaky Friday is the first word.
Speaker 1:So that's how okay. Freaky Friday is the most successful movie in a very niche subgenre. The body swap. Yeah. There have certainly been other entries, but why aren't there any others that bring in that delicious four quadrant movie money?
Speaker 1:My studio demands a body swap movie, but not just any. Let's capitalize on other successes. I want you two to take two famous characters. Okay. Okay.
Speaker 1:This would be whatever. Two famous characters from disassociated IP and swap bodies. What would Darth Vader be like swapped with Miranda Priestly?
Speaker 2:Yep.
Speaker 1:Vogue one.
Speaker 2:Wow. Wow. You're doing
Speaker 1:our job for us, Barry.
Speaker 2:Beautiful. That's that's amazing.
Speaker 1:Sorry. What would Darth Vader
Speaker 2:Oh my god. Imagine a Star Wars where where Darth Vader has a snarky voice over? Yeah.
Speaker 1:Oh my god. I'm sorry. You're wearing all whites? No. No.
Speaker 1:I see. We got we some of it's the white and black combo. Leave my office before I force Chokey to death. Sorry, Barry. I'm stopping.
Speaker 1:Okay. What would Darth Vader be like? Swap with Miranda Priestly. Vogue one. You're welcome.
Speaker 1:The studio demands it, boys. And then in all caps, it says, it demands it hard. Swap.
Speaker 2:Okay.
Speaker 1:Okay. Now now I gotta go over okay. Hold on. We're switching seats. I'm seeing Alright.
Speaker 1:We have seeing what the world looks like from over here.
Speaker 2:We've now swapped. Yeah. I hope you don't have more things to do on the computer. You do. Every once in a while, you hit so this is gonna be a problem.
Speaker 1:We can always swap back.
Speaker 2:No. Not until, like, the end or unless it's like a second act double swap where it becomes a double problem.
Speaker 1:Well, you've actually literally just hit on something that we'll have to consider for how we do this. How does the swap occur? Because That's the original Freaky Friday, the Jodie Foster one, it happens because they wish for it at the exact same time. Mhmm. In the change up, Ryan Reynolds and Jason Bateman switched bodies because they peed in a fountain at the same time and and made the wish.
Speaker 1:There's a
Speaker 2:How does it happen in the shaggy dog? The shaggy. He's just turned into a dog. Right?
Speaker 1:That's
Speaker 2:He's not switched?
Speaker 1:Yeah. No. No. He switches with the
Speaker 2:He does switch.
Speaker 1:In oh, gosh. I I no. He turns into a shaky
Speaker 2:dog first. That one doesn't count then.
Speaker 1:Yeah. But I'm trying to think in the second one. No. No. He he morphs American
Speaker 2:morphs over the South. I thought there was one where someone switches with a dog.
Speaker 1:Surely, there's a body swap where someone switches with a dog.
Speaker 2:There's also one with Dudley Moore and Kirk Cameron.
Speaker 1:That's right. And Fred Savage and Judge Reinhold also have a body swap
Speaker 2:movie. Yep.
Speaker 1:It'll Flash I'm not gonna try to remember the name of it. But, yeah, those probably existed because of the success of the Disney, Jodie Foster, Freaky Friday. Mhmm. But but Barry, right, he's not wrong. The most com the the most known it's like Groundhog Day is the genre name.
Speaker 1:Oh, we're doing a Groundhog Day.
Speaker 2:For a like a time loop? For a time movie.
Speaker 1:They don't call them time loop movies. It's a Groundhog Day. Yeah. And a Freaky Friday, you know exactly what that is by saying it. Mhmm.
Speaker 1:It's not the first body swap movie, surely, but it's definitely the one that's most ubiquitous to the genre and specifically the Lindsay Lohan one, which is getting freakier Friday with Jamie Lee Curtis and Lindsay Lohan. So the understanding why these characters swap is gonna be something we have to discuss here. The only bulk I have at this is that we just did Megan versus Terminator, was combining IPs, so we're kinda playing in the same a little bitty similarish arena here. But, the idea that we have to body swap, Vogue one is very That is strong buddy.
Speaker 2:Good word.
Speaker 1:I can see the poster for that. I can literally edit in Miranda Priestley's voices voice into Darth. He doesn't have a mouth. You can just voice So someone took over like, no, this is pod racing. Mhmm.
Speaker 1:I built them myself and
Speaker 2:just put it in there. Yes, lord. Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 1:Vogue one is very funny. Might I might just make that poster because you deserve to have
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:But the idea of swapping popular IP now, doesn't necessarily say movie IP. He did say make a four quadrant film
Speaker 2:Sure.
Speaker 1:With, like, taking Huckleberry Finn and swapping him with Robert Langdon from the Da Vinci Code. I that's literally off top of that. I'm not saying we do that. But, like, he didn't say it had to be movie IP. We could take TV or game.
Speaker 2:That is true. Yeah.
Speaker 1:Yeah. So does anything jump to mind right now as and then I'm assuming we we're gonna this is this is a comedy. Right? Like, we're More more
Speaker 2:than likely. I mean, so thinking outside of movies, I know your point wasn't to find other body swap stories outside of movies. Mhmm. But just to kinda continue thinking of characters that have done this in ways it's been used. Superior Spider Man.
Speaker 1:Oh, sure. Doc Ock and and Peter swapped. Yeah. Which by all counts is a very good run. I just stopped reading mainline comics Mhmm.
Speaker 1:After I was burned too many times.
Speaker 2:Body swapping is a major theme in Lovecraft stories. Mhmm. So much that the the last Stewart Gordon, is that I I can't remember if that's the the right name. His his the last movie he made, but what what he died and it was someone else finish it.
Speaker 1:Oh, yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 2:Yeah. Flesh. Something flesh. Suitable flesh. Suitable flesh.
Speaker 2:Yes. That was a body swap movie. Mhmm. Granted, not in the same way that Freaky Friday was. The the the evil wizard was purposely swapping bodies to get younger, better bodies to Yeah.
Speaker 2:To live forever.
Speaker 1:Chucky put himself in a doll.
Speaker 2:It's technically body swap. Yeah. So James
Speaker 1:Lee Ray, what was
Speaker 2:That's that's that's really close if if that wasn't dead on, which means his body had the soul of a
Speaker 1:doll. Yeah. Just laying there. Friends to the end. Good god.
Speaker 1:What's wrong with this doll? Yeah. So, yeah, we're actually you're actually listing off more than I realized to the the amount of body swap movies that there are. Yeah. The suitable flesh was doorstep?
Speaker 1:The the Lovecraft
Speaker 2:Oh, yeah. The the thing the thing on the doorstep. The yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 1:Yeah. I'm my you're I'm talking to you. You're in the I'm clearly
Speaker 2:you you you are now remembering it better than I am. The thing at the door, that's gonna bug me now. And my phone's way over there on the other side of the
Speaker 1:We swapped we swapped chairs.
Speaker 2:We did.
Speaker 1:We fully swapped. So yeah. Yeah. You're you're just making me realize, like, there's more body swap entries into this. It is a very niche subgenre.
Speaker 2:It is. So what's
Speaker 1:if we're he Barry joked here and said, give me some of that 4 quadrant money, means we need to play a little friendlier than than horror. Mhmm. Which is fine. That's that's not anything that I'm like, I don't know. We're we're missing out by not having some disgusting twenty eight days later swapping with dawn of the dead kind of stuff here.
Speaker 2:Well, let let's think about when we when we have done things. It wasn't quite a body swap. It was a a universe crossover. We did, Harry Potter and Ring of Fire.
Speaker 1:Yeah. Which I still stand by my mistake of pushing Sirius Black when Tonks was right there.
Speaker 2:Mhmm. So that again, not quite body swap, not quite universe swap. But that's that's kind of in a way, that's what we're being asked to do. We're we're being asked to mash up two worlds through characters' experiences.
Speaker 1:Yes. Exactly. So let's let me take a moment here today. I've I often think about, like, wouldn't it be I think this is a an let's say DC and Marvel wanted, like, to really kick up some of their Mhmm. Sales.
Speaker 1:Right? Take two characters and swap them. Sure. Like, Batman and Wolverine swap universes, and for one year, Batman is in Marvel Comics and Wolverine is in DC Comics. Mhmm.
Speaker 1:Now what suddenly, what do you do with those characters when they are Justice League and the Avengers or Avengers and Justice League is a a comic that George Perez drew, Kurt Busick drew, wrote it, and it's the Justice League and the Avengers teaming up. It's a it's a it's a fun comic. But that's the whole shebang
Speaker 2:Mhmm.
Speaker 1:Having just Wolverine and Batman swap you. Oh, my God. Did that Well,
Speaker 2:I'm just, Batman becomes the character that the dark Batman fans want him to be.
Speaker 1:He's just slicing and dicing.
Speaker 2:Yeah. But not in a villain manner, in a Wolverine manner. Yeah. But yes, he he he kicks the ever living crap He goes out of crime in Gotham. He's going berserker.
Speaker 2:He does have the problem of he doesn't have his regenerative power, so that would be something he did probably have to deal with pretty early on when he, like, breaks his his hand or something, punching punching a guy.
Speaker 1:Yeah. And it doesn't heal. Yeah.
Speaker 2:And he would have to rely on everything that Bruce Wayne has already built for Batman. Mhmm. But there is a lot.
Speaker 1:Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 2:And he would have the assistance of Alfred.
Speaker 1:Mhmm.
Speaker 2:Meanwhile, imagine a Wolverine who can do everything Wolverine does, but now, like, Bruce Wayne would probably go about creating, like, Reese he would because of who Bruce Wayne is and and how he operates, he doesn't have the money to start with. But Warring's lived a long time. It wouldn't be too hard to assume that he has stashes here and there.
Speaker 1:Just But how
Speaker 2:would Batman know?
Speaker 1:He just has one Wells Fargo bank account. Yeah. With a with a point zero one Going back
Speaker 2:to when it actually was Yeah. Stagecoach?
Speaker 1:Yeah. Yeah. It's like the interest rate is is less than one. Uh-huh. I was like, oh my god.
Speaker 1:He would find it because Wolverine had a wallet. Yeah. He has his ID in one of his pouches.
Speaker 2:But I I I imagine, like, imagine the the Marvel universe where Wolverine is brilliant and he's, like, making devices and and and
Speaker 1:He's not going headlong charging to fights. He's slinking in the shadows and, like, leaping out and then going crazy. Yeah. Batman would figure it out faster than Wolverine would figure it out. Like Yes.
Speaker 1:Batman unfortunately, the the omnipotence of Batman as a character, you can write like I I'm more I like the Batman who's on the back foot more than the Batman who can just if he has time to plan, he can beat Superman.
Speaker 2:Sure. But that even if he doesn't necessarily get to like, oh, he has he has time to plan. He can take down Galactus. Mhmm. It it's it's a matter of if he has time to plan, then things like fights with Sabretooth aren't as big of a deal.
Speaker 2:Right. Because in the the the fights between Sabretooth and Wolverine, Sabretooth is the cat playing with the mouse. Mhmm. Suddenly, he has Batman's ninja training and inclination to to, yeah, to strategize and and use particular tactics. Not that Wolverine doesn't have his own.
Speaker 2:Mhmm. But turning the tables on Sabertooth where he's luring Sabertooth into a trap instead. Surprise. Yeah.
Speaker 1:Also, we should acknowledge Darkclaw, the Amalgam universe that was Batman and Wolverine combined. I mostly went to that as a starting point because it's a thought that I've had before of, like
Speaker 2:If I'm spending too much time on exploring this because I also don't imagine this is what we're going
Speaker 1:I'm not pitching Batman and Wolverine swapping spots. Okay. Particularly because as it stands right now, if we're looking at current incarnations, we don't currently have a Wolverine or a Batman.
Speaker 2:Sort of.
Speaker 1:We we the the bless you. The closest approximation we have is the Batman, which is now bless you. A few years old, and Wolverine has, you know, till he's 90 of the Deadpool universe.
Speaker 2:So swap Those would be the ones that are switching.
Speaker 1:Yeah. Swap and it's like they're sort of languishing characters right now.
Speaker 2:But the I I believe the fun of this body swap is also supposed to be the fun they would have in those worlds.
Speaker 1:Like and also he Barry used Darth Vader and Miranda Priestly's Star Wars and and The Devil Wears Prada.
Speaker 2:Yeah. So crossing genres Yeah. Is also
Speaker 1:And funny enough, we spent time thinking of Darth Vader with Miranda's like, Miranda Priestly with Darth Vader, like, choking out her assistants and not
Speaker 2:Oh, she goes as dark? You think she goes as dark as Darth Vader?
Speaker 1:It was Darth Vader in her body. So, of course, he's like, this year, we're everyone's wearing black. We're all wearing black now.
Speaker 2:I'm sorry. Yeah. Vader as Miranda is choking people out. I was I thought you were saying Miranda would be choking out stormtroopers.
Speaker 1:Well, does she have the force, or does Vader take the force with him?
Speaker 2:That is a good question. It depends on which Star Wars, cannon you lay. If you want to uphold midichlorians
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Then Miranda has the force.
Speaker 1:Miranda has the Force invader's body.
Speaker 2:Yes.
Speaker 1:Yeah. Yeah. And that goes to the if if we're saying that the power transfers, then then Batman's just Batman with Wolverine's abilities. Oh, that's what he is. It would be that Wolverine is Batman with healing, like, and claw like, the the powers don't transfer because
Speaker 2:Correct.
Speaker 1:Yeah. If we're going off Freaky Friday rules, once the teenager goes into the adult's body, she's like, oh, my back. What the hell?
Speaker 2:Like Yeah. Yeah. It's it it wouldn't mean anything if you took the traits that made made you that that you possessed in the body.
Speaker 1:Then then doesn't mean anything. Yeah. It's and suitable flesh is a similar situation where he's like, I like being a lady because I can get off differently.
Speaker 2:Yeah. Because who doesn't wanna be Heather Grimmick?
Speaker 1:Well, the yeah. Correct. You know, I don't know why maybe it was in the midst of us just riffing right now, but the one person I feel like would succeed in all all all body swaps that we could think of is literally any Paul Rudd character. Like Paul Rudd acting as anybody and then anybody that that Paul Redd character is transferred into acting like Paul Redd.
Speaker 2:Mhmm.
Speaker 1:Don't know which Paul Redd to draw from, but, like, what was this character from Parks and Rec, the guy running for office who was just a complete Oh, I don't remember. Complete moron. Just dropping him into, oh, wait. No. No.
Speaker 1:I I don't get me wrong. I'm not saying Paul Rudd swaps with Paul Rudd characters. Although that might be something to consider is taking a taking, like
Speaker 2:An actor who's done different characters and switching them?
Speaker 1:Their, like, dropping Jack Sparrow into The Tourist with Angelina Jolie. And you know what? Honestly, if you've seen The Tourist, Johnny Depp and Angelina Jolie are already in two different movies.
Speaker 2:Here's a random switch for you. Homelander and Young Sheldon.
Speaker 1:Oh, god. It doesn't even have to be Young Sheldon. It just say Sheldon No.
Speaker 2:Big Bang Theory. Young Sheldon.
Speaker 1:Okay. Okay.
Speaker 2:So Because young Sheldon young I haven't watched really any of the show, but I've seen enough clips of the show to kinda get an idea of how young Sheldon is different from Sheldon.
Speaker 1:Mhmm. Mhmm.
Speaker 2:Sheldon knows it all. He's a know it all. He doesn't question things. Young Sheldon knows it all. And then when people are that's not how is it?
Speaker 2:Why? Oh, yes. Why does it have to be that way? Yeah. And then he proceeds to try to make it the correct way.
Speaker 1:Can you imagine him just like glaring at someone to try to blow their head off with laser vision and nothing's coming out? Sheldon, what do you do? Yeah. The reason adult Sheldon becomes adult Sheldon is because at one point, young Sheldon was embodied by Homelander.
Speaker 2:He had the power
Speaker 1:He had the power.
Speaker 2:To just force the world to be the way
Speaker 1:he wanted. So young Sheldon zapped over to the boys universe. He's like, oh, gosh. What's this life now? Oh, And when he goes back, he's like, I've tasted it.
Speaker 1:I've tasted it. There's there's no turning back. You're all below me. You're all beneath me. Get out of my chair.
Speaker 2:Yep. Oh, okay. Wow.
Speaker 1:Power corrupts. Clearly. Yeah.
Speaker 2:Sorry. I interrupted you to throw out that example.
Speaker 1:I literally don't remember what I was talking about. Yeah. So I'm trying to think, like, really, it's gonna be a lot of this right now as we sort of brainstorm ourselves into What characters? What characters.
Speaker 2:Do you think Barry thought up that pun Vogue one and then figured out the Freaky Friday.
Speaker 1:Hey, Barry. Either way, man.
Speaker 2:So should we be doing that? Should we we be Come
Speaker 1:up with a title.
Speaker 2:Start with a a funny crossover title or a funny title that we then figure out the crossover for?
Speaker 1:The literally just thought of 10 things I hate about commandments where someone took the Take taking taking Eul Brynner and and Shelton Heston's 10 commandments and turned into, like, a teen comedy from the nineties.
Speaker 2:So Moses switches bodies with Cat. The teenage version Julia Styles. Cyrano?
Speaker 1:No. Julia Styles.
Speaker 2:Oh, okay. There you go.
Speaker 1:It says Cyrano. 10 things anybody was Yeah. Okay. There's your lit lesson for the day. Share from clueless swapping with Hannibal Lecter.
Speaker 1:See, god. You know what this is giving us an example right now? We have had and I acknowledge the fun of reading these demands because they're a sentence long, so it's hard not to read the whole thing. But the fallacy in this of we get it often, do the Godfather with Muppets. Do Lord of the Rings with Muppets.
Speaker 1:Do do Top Gun, but everyone's Nick Cage. Like, that's just a demand. That's a sentence. Mean, it goes from time to time. And it's fun to sit here and go, okay.
Speaker 1:The Muppets are in in Princess Bride, list the characters. Okay. Okay. The Muppets are in Star Wars, and it's just that for the joy of it. Mostly.
Speaker 1:And we're sort of in that ballpark now of, like, just literally fun
Speaker 2:of the the the randomness randomness of of it? It.
Speaker 1:Like, having the transporter switch with Frodo. Like, I it's like literally just picking picking two characters at random and and saying,
Speaker 2:swap up. It's not quite at random. Like, there's actually a relationship there. The transporter's job is to take a load somewhere, and that's what Frodo does. So now you have Jason Statham in Elijah Wood's body being like, alright.
Speaker 2:We've gotta get this ring to to Mordor.
Speaker 1:You're gonna get out of my way
Speaker 2:or I'm gonna move you. I need a wagon. Give me a wagon. There's too much load. Pippin, get off.
Speaker 2:Really really funny, Frodo.
Speaker 1:Yeah. Yeah. Oh, man. It writes itself.
Speaker 2:Meanwhile, over in the transporter.
Speaker 1:You gotta help me. You gotta help me, Frank. You gotta help me. I don't know how to drive this. What what's the the pedals?
Speaker 1:Why am I so muscular? Is anyone is anyone hungry for for lunch?
Speaker 2:Why is there a lady in my trunk?
Speaker 1:But he would still go through it because Frodo's a good guy. Yeah. Yeah. He would he would figure it out.
Speaker 2:Like the transporter. He would get murdered immediately. Well, no. That would be our our goal as the screenwriters. How does he not
Speaker 1:get murdered? I
Speaker 2:mean, because there's something to be said for he also didn't die in Lord of the Rings.
Speaker 1:It's true. Because he had Sam there taking care of him every step of the way. Yeah. I'm gonna open this. There you go.
Speaker 1:I heard it. Cool. There's no hiding the sound of it, so I just went for Alright. Okay. Alright.
Speaker 1:We need we need two big IPs
Speaker 2:that Transporter of the rings.
Speaker 1:Yeah. I we need let's we need two IPs that we can swap that don't have anything to do with each other that we can we can mine for gold here. So who is a character? Like, it's sort of asking to do two fish out of water stories. Yes.
Speaker 1:To to take the Mario Brothers movie. You got a you got a plumber from New York who's stuck in the magic king the Mushroom Kingdom. Boom. Go. So maybe there's something if, Transport of the Ring is funny because that you're right.
Speaker 1:They're both transporting things. Yeah. So there was a cross over there inexplicably
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:At random. So maybe that's it. Like, if you're thinking the two characters have similar like, Neo and Woody from Toy Story. They are maybe that's not a good example, but I'm trying to think No.
Speaker 2:No. Right. Because it's the the original example is incongruous. Right. Right.
Speaker 2:In incongruous?
Speaker 1:Yeah. In I'm mostly picking those two because the matrix follows the monomyth, the Joseph Campbell monomyth easily, like, checklisted it off and it's just the style of the matrix that makes it so goddamn good. And Toy Story similarly follows the hero's, the hero's journey. With Woody, he hits the world he knows. There's crossing the threshold into a new world courtesy of Buzz showing up.
Speaker 1:There's a little bit of overlap of the simplicity of those screenplays. That swapping them, you're not taking them so far away from the story they already were gonna live anyway. Just thinking screen Sure. Screenwriting simplicity here is
Speaker 2:Well, so to that end, what is the point to their swap? What do they learn from each other?
Speaker 1:Right. Because there's the next we have to figure out how the swap happens and then what do they gain out of swapping and swapping.
Speaker 2:Which is why it's so weird, Vader and Marissa, because
Speaker 1:And Miranda. Miranda.
Speaker 2:Because they can actually learn things from each other.
Speaker 1:Right.
Speaker 2:Whereas we keep coming up with with, like, certain parallels. Like, with with Frodo and the transporter, we could actually probably find lessons that they learned from each other. Mhmm. Like, Frodo learns, oh, maybe bite a little more off. Mhmm.
Speaker 2:Like like like, I I can I can take the load and Right? Right. Or I I don't have anyone else to rely on. There are people relying on me. And I know that was a part of his lesson in the Lord of the Rings because the weight of the ring was supposed to be was supposedly was so heavy and he was bearing it.
Speaker 1:Mhmm.
Speaker 2:But the transporter is is a is a bit more proactive in his in the defense of what he's defending. Yeah. Yeah. Because he doesn't have a fellowship. Right.
Speaker 2:And the transporter could basically learn the reverse that you can roll that you can find people to rely on. Stop going back to that, Jim. That's not what we're doing. Another goofy sorry. Another goofy one occurred to me.
Speaker 2:Dom Toretto and Lightning McQueen.
Speaker 1:Oh my god. And that's another example that you could easily do it because it's an animated movie, so it wouldn't be hard to put Dom's mouth. I'm just thinking
Speaker 2:like a like a Yeah.
Speaker 1:Yeah. Comedic editor here. But Dom in the Cars universe, boy, that second movie suddenly is a whole lot better if Dom is involved because, like, Mater's out there like, oh, wait. I'm gonna go get there. I'm gonna go save the energy crisis.
Speaker 1:No. No. Vlog. Fam, we were sticking to like, Lightning's skipping the race to get involved Yeah. And beat up Michael Caine's car.
Speaker 1:Mhmm. And he already has carnices, telekinesis and
Speaker 2:Yes. He does.
Speaker 1:And and other such car powers. Oh, yay yay.
Speaker 2:Just gotta rely on family. Yeah. Hey. I don't know
Speaker 1:that was
Speaker 2:a good I don't know if that was a good Owen
Speaker 1:Lightning was McQueen. That was pretty good. Yeah. Ends up I forgot. Yeah.
Speaker 1:Swap it to the the Fast and the Furious universe. Oh, wow. Why are we out there stealing DVDs? This guy you know, this movie, Fugazi, right? You know?
Speaker 2:We're all so good at driving cars. Why don't we why don't we make money
Speaker 1:doing just trying cars out there, guys. Yeah. Just try them.
Speaker 2:Just think think what it'd like to be a car. Yeah.
Speaker 1:Just imagine we are cars, guys. Just imagine we are cars. Dom, are you okay? Yeah, man. I'm great.
Speaker 2:We're all we're all just a big family.
Speaker 1:Just a big family. Who wants a Okay. Who wants a corona? Except he's he's chugging he's chugging motor oil. Like Yeah.
Speaker 1:Yeah. Dom, are you okay?
Speaker 2:I love this stuff. Oh, wow.
Speaker 1:Yeah. Okay. Okay. Okay. Alright.
Speaker 1:He wrong place, wrong time. John McClain swapped with someone in, like oh, god. Like okay. So taking taking the wrong place in the wrong time kind of Mhmm. Of John McClain.
Speaker 1:Now he's literally in the he's first, was in the wrong place, then he was in the wrong time, now he's in the wrong body or something like that.
Speaker 2:Santa Claus?
Speaker 1:Oh my god.
Speaker 2:Tim Tim Allen kills Santa, becomes Santa, becomes Yeah. Then in the Adventures of Being Santa
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Ends up switching with John McClain. Okay.
Speaker 1:Now So Chris Scott Calvin
Speaker 2:Scott Calvin slash Santa Claus is John McClain trying to survive in yet another air duct, and and John McClain is now having to deliver presents.
Speaker 1:It's a little bit of violent nights.
Speaker 2:Bernard the elf as his assistant.
Speaker 1:Violent night was die hard Santa. So
Speaker 2:That's true. Oh, that's true.
Speaker 1:That's That's okay. That's okay. I'm not saying we can't do it, but, like, John McClain swapped in the Santa Claus. Mhmm. Okay.
Speaker 1:That's having the die hard scenario play out with now the the the I don't know if that that's that doesn't work. That doesn't work. That doesn't work enough.
Speaker 2:Okay.
Speaker 1:I like where your head's at. That was a good throw noodle on the wall. Okay. Here. Go.
Speaker 1:Let's go to one of your favorite movies. Rick O'Connell and and John McClain switch spots. So John McClain is in The Mummy Yep. And Rick O'Connell is in A Die Hard.
Speaker 2:Strangely, it doesn't turn out much different. Both of them just have more bewildered moments. That's really the
Speaker 1:only difference. Okay. Okay.
Speaker 2:I'm in the future and you guys are trying to take over this building? I don't think so. John Levin, what what do you mean nineteen thirties Egypt? And there's There's a mummy? Mummies?
Speaker 2:I'll punch him. Yeah.
Speaker 1:Punch him. You're right. Yeah. Not too different there. I guess they're two archetypal of each other.
Speaker 1:They're they are both of a of a similar archetype of a
Speaker 2:Men of men of action.
Speaker 1:Men of action getting by on their their snark as much as or their wits as much as their ability to survive. Mhmm. Okay. Okay. Rick O'Connell swapped with Jean Luc Picard.
Speaker 1:Really literally, like, the first words that are popping out of my mouth right now.
Speaker 2:I I think still too close.
Speaker 1:Yeah. And then Jean Luc Picard just becomes Captain Kirk. Yep. And, Rick is suddenly very intellectual.
Speaker 2:Well, I I
Speaker 1:yeah. Yeah. Mhmm. Basically. Mhmm.
Speaker 2:Okay. Or Rick O'Connell's just a lot closer to Jonathan.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:At least demeanor.
Speaker 1:No more and and but with the brains of
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Okay. Maybe maybe we're thinking let's we're thinking about this a little wrong. Let's let's think of supporting characters swapping out.
Speaker 2:Well, I wanna note the example given as well. Flips a villain and a protagonist.
Speaker 1:Well, who are calling a protagonist? Miranda? Miranda. No. That's that's she's a she's the villain.
Speaker 1:She's the devil in Prada in The Devil Wears Prada. Miranda
Speaker 2:is I was thinking of the wrong movie entirely.
Speaker 1:Yeah. The Devil Wears Prada.
Speaker 2:I kept thinking Sex in the City.
Speaker 1:Oh, no.
Speaker 2:Miranda That's why that's why I imagined like a voice over.
Speaker 1:That's Carrie.
Speaker 2:That is. That's Carrie. Yeah. Oh, my gosh. That's okay.
Speaker 2:Yeah. You're right.
Speaker 1:Yeah. Miranda is the is is Oh. Meryl Streep from
Speaker 2:No. Okay. Yep. I see that now. Actually, that's I thought it was absurd, Sex and the City and Star Wars.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:I can see Devil Wears Prada and and Darth Vader. I can see that much easier now. Woah.
Speaker 1:Capes Yes. Are
Speaker 2:Yeah. Okay. That
Speaker 1:Vogue. I need to I need to look at my computer so I'm watching.
Speaker 2:Yeah. Okay. Okay. We're gonna flip back.
Speaker 1:We've swapped back, but mostly because I wanna see where we're at where
Speaker 2:we're at. Oh, man. I've learned such a lesson by being on that side of the table.
Speaker 1:Yeah. Yeah. What'd you learn? I I learned Oh, because oh, yeah. Because you swapped.
Speaker 1:Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Makes
Speaker 2:sense. It's really hard it's really hard to do what you do, and I now appreciate much more what you set up for this show. What what'd you learn about me?
Speaker 1:Well, yeah. I learned No.
Speaker 2:I I learned you got it easy.
Speaker 1:I I learned how delicious Doctor Pepper is. And you have three of them in front of you.
Speaker 2:Yeah. One for each
Speaker 1:quadrant? The thing I appreciated most in our swap was the beard. Like, I've I've grown my beard pretty long before, but never to the point where it's there's like actionable distance from chin to chest. Yeah. So having your beard for that short time, I learned the power
Speaker 2:you have. Mhmm. My god. The wind blowing through it is a unique sensation. My god.
Speaker 1:That I I I never never thought so and I appreciate it now. This is us killing time. This is me killing time to try to think of more examples of characters to swap. So Vogue one. Goddamn it.
Speaker 1:Barry, you did it. Really good. Yeah.
Speaker 2:I think you you did you did the episode, Barry. Your pun wins.
Speaker 1:Okay. Rapid fire. Rapid fire here. John Wick and Paddington. The nicest, sweetest marmalade thirst bear wakes up with lethal reflexes of John Wick and a thirst for That's the wrong
Speaker 2:Oh, you
Speaker 1:were gonna say it'll bother.
Speaker 2:I was. Yeah.
Speaker 1:And and John Wick is now, like, super polite. But still see, here's the thing. Paddington is so sweet, so genuine. If you haven't watched the Paddington movies, they are literal they are they are they will hug you and and and comfort you. But suddenly, John Wick because of Paddington's niceness, he still solves all the problems in the John Wick movies.
Speaker 1:Just it doesn't come resort to violence. He, like, he gets everyone just like, hey. Come on. Spot a tea. Let's just be polite here.
Speaker 1:Okay. Come on, Jim. Throw one at me. Elsa and Tony Montana from from Scarface. Yeah.
Speaker 2:Does she take her ice powers?
Speaker 1:No. No. She's just Oh, no. She's just
Speaker 2:Oh, Tony Montana has ice powers?
Speaker 1:Tony Montana.
Speaker 2:Oh, no.
Speaker 1:First you get the money, then you get the ice powers, then you get the women. Wait. What's the
Speaker 2:Say hello to my little friend, and it's Ola or not Olaf.
Speaker 1:The Hi. I'm here.
Speaker 2:Here in the summer heat of Miami. Oh
Speaker 1:Oh my god. Tony just rule like, he takes over Arendelle, like, yelling at
Speaker 2:Mhmm.
Speaker 1:Just threatening people and, like, you wanna end up in the Hudson? And the no. No. You wanna end up in the fjord? Say hello to my little friend.
Speaker 1:Hi. I'll tell I'll show you the way. I'll show you the way the whore the fjord. Just imagine Elsa in Tony's body just like, her repression is let out in song, but it's all, like, Cuban beats.
Speaker 2:Okay. Scarface turning into a musical. That's that's hilarious.
Speaker 1:Scarface the musical. Oh. Alright. Put that aside for a later development here. Okay.
Speaker 1:Miss Piggy with literally anyone. Miss Piggy
Speaker 2:Magneto.
Speaker 1:With Magneto. Okay. So Eric Lenture's Magneto is now in the the in one of the Muppet scenarios. Uh-huh. Or okay.
Speaker 1:Okay. We have to if it's miss Piggy, it's miss Piggy in one of the Muppet movies, not miss Piggy, the Yeah. Quote unquote actress. Right? Yeah.
Speaker 1:Because it's it has to be within a film's storyline. Mhmm. Most of the storylines of miss Piggy, she's a diva who's thinks she's worth more than she is. She's just the diva of devious. So having Eric Lentcher in her body sorry.
Speaker 1:It's not Eric Lentcher. I forgot what Magneto's actual name is now.
Speaker 2:They've changed it?
Speaker 1:Yeah. It's a yeah. But having her in, Magneto in miss Piggy's body, What to what end now? Oh, the the justice for the Muppets because they're all treated as lesser than. So suddenly, he's
Speaker 2:And miss Piggy learns that life is about more than just serving self being self being self serving?
Speaker 1:Yeah. Her well, no. She has magnet powers, so now she can she
Speaker 2:has power. She wouldn't learn a lesson?
Speaker 1:I don't I don't know if she can anymore. Maybe I'm wrong. I could have sworn sorry. Oh, Eisenhart. Eisenhart.
Speaker 1:Max Eisenhart is Magneto's birth name in the fictional history of the character. No. He went by Magnus when he was named married to his gypsy wife Magda, blah blah blah blah.
Speaker 2:Whatever. No.
Speaker 1:It's Eric Lentcher.
Speaker 2:It's Eric Lentcher. Yeah.
Speaker 1:Miss Piggy in yeah. So Magneto starts leading the revival. Like, Kermit's, like, basically falls into the Charles Xavier role of, like, Phoebe, calm down. Maybe we don't need it. No, Kirby.
Speaker 1:Justice for all Muppets. All Muppetkind. But they they don't come they don't call themselves Muppets. They they are in their their world in the worlds of their movies, they just are. They are not they are not a different race of people No.
Speaker 1:Except Gonzo. He's a weirdo because he's an alien. But, like, yeah, Miss Piggy leading this this revolution revolution for for Muppets' Muppets' rights. Because make would Magneto perceive because Magneto's coming from a different universe. Magneto would perceive the Muppets as Muppets in human world.
Speaker 1:Right? So then
Speaker 2:Don't you see that we're different? We're we're better?
Speaker 1:Different. We're better. Barry, was this just an excuse to force me to do as many impressions as I can cram into 90? Thanks, bud. Meanwhile, miss Piggy over in the x men universe is I mean, Magneto is already a bit of a diva, for being honest.
Speaker 1:Yeah. It's suddenly just amping that up.
Speaker 2:I liked the direction you're going with John McClain. It's just switching him with another character like him is the wrong Mhmm. Direction. Oh. We could also explore secondary characters.
Speaker 1:Okay. I'm gonna I'm gonna throw out
Speaker 2:a Oh. That might actually be a really good way to What secondaries secondary characters that generally have a chip on their shoulder could we swap? To to learn ideally, learn that who they are in the place that they occupy is actually valuable and important.
Speaker 1:What do you mean by a chip on their shoulder?
Speaker 2:Generally, they end up being villainous sidekicks like Starscream.
Speaker 1:So like, characters who have a chip on their shoulder for being second banana?
Speaker 2:That's what I was thinking.
Speaker 1:Okay. So so, like, Starscream. Okay. I did have a John McClain swap, but I'll come back to that. So, like, Luigi instead of Mario.
Speaker 1:Luigi is always gonna be second fiddle to to Mario.
Speaker 2:Depending I mean, have we really gotten a telling of that where Luigi is resentful? I know we've gotten online parodies, but I don't think that's been put into, like, a major story.
Speaker 1:John Watson sometimes is a little that Sherlock treats him the way he does.
Speaker 2:Sure.
Speaker 1:John has people skills, and Sherlock does not. Ron Weasley is is unfortunately second banana. Now here's an here's an unfair thing about Ron. Ron Ron is a he's got a chip on his shoulder in the books differently than he does in the movies. Like, he's he's screenwriter forced into being forgotten Yeah.
Speaker 1:At great lengths within the films. In the in the books, he's he's cast aside because he's the seventh child. He's the sixth son of seven. Family. He's he's second to Harry.
Speaker 1:That does come up within his character arc of feeling like, you know, just because you're the chosen one. So he yeah. He has a bit of a chip on his shoulder at one point Do think his best friend being the chosen one.
Speaker 2:Do you think the movies had started influencing JK Rowling when she wrote that last book? Because that's where it really that's where the chip actually manifests is when they are in the when they're when they're out in the woods Mhmm. And I forget what it is manifests and they all, like, start exhibiting their worst traits or whatever.
Speaker 1:The Horcrux said. Yeah. They weren't around. Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 1:No. They in Goblet of Fire, that that fourth book, they're they have a lot of angst in there. Ron has a lot of angst in there about that's when him and Harry stop being friends briefly, and they use Hermione as their go between. And then
Speaker 2:That's right.
Speaker 1:The movie to handle it differently, whatever, so forth. But not necessarily, like, someone who goes bad. Yeah.
Speaker 2:Or it doesn't have to be a sec two second bananas. What if we took one second banana and switched them with a main character who so so that way they they kind of learn learn the lesson. Like, so we take we take Watson Mhmm. Who feels we take a Watson who feels unappreciated Mhmm. And switch him with a main character who really doesn't do no.
Speaker 2:That would just reinforce.
Speaker 1:No. No. I see. I I think if if Watson is put in a position of being the leader Uh-huh. Like like, I'm gonna take an analog for Sherlock himself.
Speaker 1:If Watson is swapped with doctor Strange, Watson is now the leader. He's the Sorcerer Supreme. Sure. He's got all this responsibility thrust upon him, and it's a matter of, like, oh, this is why, at least, John as a character Mhmm. Could understand, oh, this is why someone is like this.
Speaker 1:When you have this much power and responsibility and everyone expects greatness from you, it can wear a soul down. That's not what happens to Sherlock because he's such an egomaniac. But John can understand that the the import of power and and position can make someone a little shitty. Yeah. Just in their in their day to day personality.
Speaker 1:Like, goddamn. Stop asking me to do everything. Why am I because I'm the only one who can do it? Oh, I see it now. I'm hearing it.
Speaker 1:I'm hearing it. I'm so sorry, everyone. Meanwhile, having doctor Strange forced into Wadsden's body and having to be subjugated to Sherlock is like, oh god. Is this what I do to Wong? Okay.
Speaker 1:Yeah. But you don't have to be such a prick about it, Sherlock. Jeez. Oh, boy.
Speaker 2:I like that one, especially because it's Benedict Cumberbatch playing a a a two
Speaker 1:Yeah. Benedict Cumberbatch. I I didn't even do that on purpose. I was just picking a Sherlock, like
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Sherlock and
Speaker 2:A Sherlock and Watson to a Sherlock and Watson.
Speaker 1:Doctor Strange and Wong and their best versions are that. That that's not bad. Like, yeah, that lesson learned of what's truly walking a mile in someone else's shoes and then growing to understand it. Sure. Yeah.
Speaker 2:So we're pretty long into this into this the first half of this episode. Sure. And we haven't landed on a pairing and even that pairing. Like, we found a pairing that works pretty well and we can tell a decent story, but the other part of the the point of this is switching IPs. Mhmm.
Speaker 2:Because the switching of those IPs, don't think is quite interesting enough.
Speaker 1:Sure. Sure. I I'm I had an idea for a John McClain swap. Okay. 11 from Stranger Things.
Speaker 2:John McClain becomes a a teenage girl with psychic powers?
Speaker 1:Well, here's the thing. I'm I'm tempted now to take powers with them so that John McClain Doesn't have powers? Doesn't have like, John McClain is in Eleven's body, it's just John McClain. It's more of the Eleven being inside of a 45 year old man's with mental powers is what I was thinking of. But, also, I was thinking, like, oh, the eightiesness of it.
Speaker 1:Like, because because Stranger Things really embodies the Amblin, John Carpenter, Stephen King era of eighties Mhmm. Storytelling. And certainly where they are now, it's like we're we're in the verge of the nineties with these characters. Yeah. But John McClain being this epitome, maybe it'd be better to take Dutch from Predator and swap him with Eleven or might or or Dustin from, like, from Stranger Things.
Speaker 1:You know, Dustin is like Yeah. You know, like, has Dutch's attitude, and and meanwhile, Dutch is over there like, this gun's so big and warm. A person who could be humbled by a swap is Dwight Schrute from The Office.
Speaker 2:Oh, sure. But also, if you do Dwight Schrute's character correctly, he won't be humbled.
Speaker 1:He will be all about it. Yeah. Man. Okay. Let's let's take five here.
Speaker 1:Let's ask the studio for a water break.
Speaker 2:Well, real on on on that well, okay. Okay. Yeah. I'll I'll save it for after.
Speaker 1:Yeah. Don't lose the thought.
Speaker 2:But the the Dwight Schrute got my mind going. Okay. Right? Normally, make movies, but this is this would be a TV show. But again, I don't know if the worlds are different enough.
Speaker 2:We'll we'll we'll find out.
Speaker 1:We'll find out. Okay. There's a little teaser for you. We're just gonna take five here, get some fresh air and some water, and we'll be right back to take a listen to these fun commercials from Six Five Media, which may be for a new show that's just been added to the mix. I don't know.
Speaker 1:I'll plug it at the end of the show. Or you'll hear a commercial for it right now. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know.
Speaker 1:Don't know. Leave me alone. Go to commercial. And we're back. Okay.
Speaker 1:Jim, you were right going on the break there.
Speaker 2:You had
Speaker 1:a thought.
Speaker 2:You you mentioned Dwight Schrute. It would act I think it actually would be funny to see Dwight Schrute and Andy Dwyer switch bodies.
Speaker 1:Like straight in the office. Yeah. It's not an IP swap.
Speaker 2:Wait. Did I say the wrong Andy? Oh. I said the wrong Andy. Andy.
Speaker 2:I said the wrong Andy.
Speaker 1:Shawshank Redemption?
Speaker 2:No. No. Which Andy? From Parks and Rec.
Speaker 1:Oh. Oh. Andy. Okay. Yeah.
Speaker 1:Yeah. I'm sorry. No. Yeah. Andy Dwyer is from Parks and Rec.
Speaker 1:I'm sorry. Andy from the office is is Bernard. So, yes. Yeah. Andy from
Speaker 2:Parks and Rec. Swappy. The right. The the the dopey, lovable musician
Speaker 1:Right.
Speaker 2:Switching with Dwight Schrute. Oh, god. And and the life the the the havoc that they would wreak on each other's lives. With
Speaker 1:Dwight. Yeah. Dwight from the office. That's okay. Yeah.
Speaker 1:So what would that that be? Okay. So Andy Andy getting dry like, wakes up on the beet farm.
Speaker 2:Sure. Yeah.
Speaker 1:He's like, I've become a wizard. Looking around Dwight's room, he's like For sure. I'm back in the olden times. Yep. And then realizing he has to go to go somehow get to work.
Speaker 1:Maybe Moe sends him there. Like, you gotta go to work, Andy Dwight. Like, oh, yeah.
Speaker 2:And then and then Dwight in Andy's body, he'd be
Speaker 1:Well, No. I'm sorry. I was saying I just realized, like, Andy Bernard has a guitar, and Dwight shows up and is like, oh, sick. Can I try your guitar? And he's just shredding a solo on it.
Speaker 1:Like, we should start a band.
Speaker 2:Oh, my god. And then Michael would be like, we should.
Speaker 1:We should start a band, and suddenly
Speaker 2:That's what the episode's
Speaker 1:about. Sudden hope. You know what it it is? Is that this version of Dwight Uh-huh. Andy in Dwight's body does become Michael's best friend.
Speaker 1:Yes. Like, Andy's best friend, Michael's Michael's best friend. And, like, Jim's annoyed at first of, like, oh, my god.
Speaker 2:I think Jim would be put, like like, bewildered the whole time. He does not know what's happened.
Speaker 1:Yeah. Just like even when he tries to annoy him with a thing, Dwight's like
Speaker 2:Yeah. And you're like, oh, you got me.
Speaker 1:You got me. Good. Oh. Oh, wow. Did you think of that by yourself?
Speaker 1:Did anyone help you? Did you
Speaker 2:Oh, my god. That right. The praise would be so much that Jim would think that they're like What are you doing? He's he's playing to it. Yeah.
Speaker 1:What are you doing? And then, like, Andy being so, like, just nice. He's he's a golden retriever embodied that Jim becomes the well, in some people's analysis of The Office, Jim Halpert is the psychotic villain of the series, but he's just like he's like, I don't like this. I don't like this new Dwight. And everyone's like, are talking about?
Speaker 1:Dwight's, like, really cool now. Like, likes him. Everybody wants to. But he's not getting any work done, but it doesn't matter. Yep.
Speaker 1:So then, like, because he's not getting any work done, Jim's working, like, extra hard.
Speaker 2:Oh, He
Speaker 1:becomes this, like, stickler. Much
Speaker 2:more Uptight. Yeah.
Speaker 1:Someone's gotta sell this
Speaker 2:paper. Anxious and stuff.
Speaker 1:Yeah. Oh, my God. That was a great prank. Jim, do another one of those pranks. Can you prank me right now?
Speaker 2:Prank. Go. Prank me. Do another prank. I'll close my eyes.
Speaker 1:Okay.
Speaker 2:Okay. Are you sad?
Speaker 1:Then Jim just walks away and he open
Speaker 2:Oh, yeah.
Speaker 1:And he looks up and goes, woah. Like, the the by all for some reason, by all accounts, everything in that office is suddenly just better because Dwight's not there Yeah. Being an anal retentive jerk. Uh-huh. And to be fair, in his own way, Dwight means well.
Speaker 2:Better in in certain regard. Right? Like, if you really wanted to explore that, what would end up happening because he's distracting Michael and several other employees Mhmm. Their numbers start falling and corporate calls in and they're like, what's going on, Michael? Mhmm.
Speaker 2:And he's like, nothing. We've just got an office band going. It's keeping everyone's morale up. Uh-oh. Office band?
Speaker 2:Michael, what I'm coming down Uh-oh.
Speaker 1:And then Dwight, Andy and Dwight feels bad. Like, is my fault, guys. I realized that, like, you know, this is a job setting and and you guys all need to work more and I guess I'm gonna I I gotta go back to the farm. I I'm the reason this is happening and I'm so sorry. Humbled himself and, like, no, Dwight.
Speaker 1:Don't leave. Don't listen. Jim's, like, yeah. Leave. And then Dwight goes back to his wizard farm and Yep.
Speaker 1:And, like, Moe's runs up. He's, oh, you're back. And, how was work today? And it's, like, hey, beard friend. I I wanna go back up to my wizard's room and just think about what I've done.
Speaker 1:I almost almost ruined the business today. It should also, they they promoted me to assistant manager, but I don't think I deserve it, so I turned it down. And then he goes and lays down and, like, I wish I was I miss I miss April. I wish I was back in my book Mhmm. Wherever I came from, then closes his eyes and just goes, Wingardium Liviosa.
Speaker 1:And then Yep. So meanwhile Yeah. On the Dwight side of things
Speaker 2:Oh, Dwight would probably be well, he would basically be superior Spider Manning Andy. Andy's life to for for better or worse. Honestly, one of the first things he'd probably do is he'd probably break up with April. Yeah. But by the end of it, he he becomes assistant mayor.
Speaker 1:Oh, yeah. Or something like that. Mayor. Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 1:Like, assistant to the mayor.
Speaker 2:Like sure.
Speaker 1:Well, he he goes so far as oh my god. I said it earlier. What is go ahead and keep you gotta
Speaker 2:I I figured he he would, like, like, somehow quickly rise right past Ron and right past
Speaker 1:Leslie. Yeah. He he oh, no. For for whatever reason, when he swaps in and he's like immediately knows what happens, it's a body swap. Yeah.
Speaker 1:I've body swapped.
Speaker 2:I've body swapped.
Speaker 1:Whoever this guy is, I've body swapped. My god. He's needs to work out. He does not have any of the abs that I have. And he's, like, doing some, like, tight like, kung fu karate.
Speaker 1:And the one of the first people he comes around, like, he sees Ben, and he's like, You annoy me. Leave me alone. Tom, like, he just doesn't like anybody. And and Bobby Newport, that's that's Paul Redd's character who's running for Oh,
Speaker 2:okay.
Speaker 1:He's he sees the potential of, even the confessional of it. Like, no. I don't wanna be friends with him, but I know a pawn when I see one. And no one's more malleable and manipulative than the
Speaker 2:Oh, in in the in the confessional. In the confessional. Well, and I think what it would what it would be is it would start with, I see. I'm a shoe shiner. And he would and it would start with him shining people's shoes, like, after each one is, useless
Speaker 1:You serve me no advantage.
Speaker 2:Yeah. Yeah. Stuff like that. And he leave. Like, before he even finishes the the the shoe shine, and that's when it gets to Bobby And he's like, you'll do nicely.
Speaker 1:Yeah. I want you to shine my shoes. You're How
Speaker 2:would you
Speaker 1:feel wearing flip flops.
Speaker 2:You'll do.
Speaker 1:And and then How you would
Speaker 2:you feel about taking over the city?
Speaker 1:Yeah. Cool. I was running for mayor anyway against Leslie. Oh, I hate her. Is there anything we can do about that?
Speaker 2:Stick with me. We'll take this. We'll take, like, the the state.
Speaker 1:Leslie? Yeah. The state. Well, Leslie, short straw hair. Yeah.
Speaker 1:We can we can take her.
Speaker 2:Too many Not not a problem. Not a problem. I could easily I could easily throw her. Was that what is that something you would say?
Speaker 1:That's that's something you would say. I could easily throw her. And even
Speaker 2:Specifically, he would say, in this body, I could easily throw her.
Speaker 1:Yeah. Then the confessional is because he is like, know I'm in a body swap. And the way body swaps end is you fulfill the destiny of the person whose body you're in. Uh-huh. And, obviously, this shoeshye boy is meant to be for greater things.
Speaker 1:Yes. And I will achieve greatness with him. And so he works his way up to be an assistant to the mayor.
Speaker 2:And the whole time he's talking about how this is just like being a Cylon.
Speaker 1:Yeah. Yeah. This is exactly like being a Cylon. I've infiltrated every aspect of this. And and the only person that he's worried about, like, even Ron is like, I like you, Andy.
Speaker 1:You're doing a good job.
Speaker 2:No. He's a government man. Yeah. I don't think
Speaker 1:Oh, yeah. Ron's like I don't like you anymore, Andy. Yeah. He actually, maybe Dwight does something to, like, put Jerry down that actually like cripples Jerry like emotionally. Because Jerry always lets everything Jerry Gary Gergisch or whatever Mhmm.
Speaker 1:Always lets everything everyone talks so much shit to him and
Speaker 2:No. He ends up feeling bad a lot of the time. If anything, it would be he insults him in some way that everyone Like,
Speaker 1:hey. Woah. Woah.
Speaker 2:Woah. Andy, what has gotten into you?
Speaker 1:Oh, god. You know who wouldn't?
Speaker 2:Dwight Trude has gotten into me and he just leaves. Yeah.
Speaker 1:Now, the the first person to crack to crack, I think, okay, April is at first really sad that Andy has done that to her and then she
Speaker 2:Right.
Speaker 1:She figures out. She's like, I think Andy swapped bodies with somebody.
Speaker 2:Oh, that's perfect.
Speaker 1:And and goes to Ben. Yeah. And Ben immediately agrees.
Speaker 2:Oh, that's awesome. Body swap? And Yep. That's Andy's was about like, Andy's story was making the the office better and like all this stuff and he Yeah. He learned lessons about responsibility and stuff like that.
Speaker 2:In Dwight's story, it's about him being foiled by the the lives of the people that that he's affecting.
Speaker 1:Yeah. Yeah. Like April figures out immediately. Yeah. Like first she's like crushed that he's so mean and then she's like, it's because it's not Andy anymore.
Speaker 2:Well, don't even know. Like, I think it would be one of those like you see on on her face she looks crushed.
Speaker 1:Mhmm.
Speaker 2:But she almost immediately turns to the camera and says, someone switched bodies with Andy.
Speaker 1:And then she goes to tell the biggest nerd who would believe her is And Ben just takes a moment and goes, yeah, that tracks. Yeah. Maybe because then like
Speaker 2:are we gonna do? What are
Speaker 1:we gonna do this? Should I put my Batman costume on? Yeah. Yeah, Ben. You should go put your Batman on.
Speaker 1:And he's, like, halfway out of the room. Like, he's already pulling the boots on, like, wait. Were you messing with me? And she just kinda, like, looks at the camera deadpan.
Speaker 2:Yep.
Speaker 1:Yeah. So Andy does the Wingardium Liviosa and and to try to swap back, it doesn't work. Is it Dwight who actually fulfills the destiny that that because, like, the result of this is that Dwight does get Andy into power accidentally. Even so far as this is, like, that Bobby Newport's, like, you're my assist you're assistant to the future mayor. And then whatever is done, Andy is mayor by the end of this.
Speaker 2:Well, it I think that's sort of how it ends is he does something to usurp Bobby Newport
Speaker 1:Mhmm.
Speaker 2:And he becomes the mayor, but everyone's
Speaker 1:Hates him.
Speaker 2:So super mad Yeah. That he gets stripped of the the the title. And then you Andy Dwyer will never hold office in in this city again. You'll never you'll be more than a shoeshine guy.
Speaker 1:He, like,
Speaker 2:he because he became more than that. But
Speaker 1:He he goes back to being a oh, his first thought is is that not that he's a shoeshine guy, is that he's an FBI agent. He's like, yes. This is the power because he's wearing his Oh. Matt Lane.
Speaker 2:Bert Matt Lane.
Speaker 1:He's like, yep. Body swap, and I'm an FBI agent. So at first, he's trying to,
Speaker 2:like start. Okay.
Speaker 1:He's, like, trying to protect Leslie, and she's like, Andy, stop it. I'm I'm here to protect you, ma'am. Ma'am, what are you doing?
Speaker 2:That's not bad.
Speaker 1:Wait. Am I not an FBI? And then it's like, oh, I'm shoeshine. And then he goes to shining people's shoes to suss everyone out.
Speaker 2:That's pretty good.
Speaker 1:If he goes back to being a shoeshine boy and and, like, sits there all dejected and then some character sits down and and he actually shines their shoes, and then, like, that's the lesson.
Speaker 2:An actual personal connection?
Speaker 1:Yeah. Yeah. Like, that that he actually makes some sort of personal connection in that in that moment and is like, You know, I guess I understand the humility. I guess I understand humility for a moment. And he quantum leaps back, and he wakes up.
Speaker 1:And he's like, what the hell? Why am I yep. And Dwight just goes back to the way he was.
Speaker 2:Moe's, I've got a plan.
Speaker 1:I think I should run for mayor. Yeah. And then Andy goes back to his body and he's like, does a a freaking like,
Speaker 2:oh, April, I had the most I I had a really weird dream.
Speaker 1:And then she just hugs him and kisses like, I'm sure you did, Andy. Wanna tell me about it? I can't remember it. I think I worked at a bowling alley. Yes.
Speaker 2:Yeah. It'd be something like that. Yeah.
Speaker 1:And then he just starts telling, like, I worked at a bowling alley and there was like a clown there And
Speaker 2:And he just kept pulling chickens out of his pockets. Live chickens.
Speaker 1:That that so the Wow. That worked really well. Actually, no. The way Chris no. No.
Speaker 1:No. The way Chris Pratt would play that in the heat of the moment where he's, like, they're walking off in the sunset and he's telling his tale. He's like, I don't remember it. And she's like, that's okay. He's like, no.
Speaker 1:No. No. I wanna remember it.
Speaker 2:Okay. Oh, there I you
Speaker 1:I, like, I suddenly woke up and I couldn't see, but I could hear really well. I basically saw the world through my senses. You would be daredevil. And I was a lawyer, and, I
Speaker 2:was And I had these claws.
Speaker 1:Had these claws. No. No. No. No.
Speaker 1:No. No claws. No claws. But I was and I was and I jumped off a building and just described it. It'd be just as easy for him to describe Star Lord.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:So that was a fun that was fun.
Speaker 1:That I like that one.
Speaker 2:A thing I had thought about so to work the the body swap Mhmm. Almost the point almost always is the point to the swap is to understand the other person. Yeah. Yeah. Because they they they just don't understand.
Speaker 2:Right? I'm a teenager. Mom, you don't understand.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Yeah. I I'm an adult parent. I you don't understand what it's like to raise a teenager.
Speaker 1:Okay.
Speaker 2:Right? So it's it's about not understanding. Right? So what can and the other thing is I think it's really smart that to do villains because heroes do come around to understanding. Heroes heroes change.
Speaker 2:They have arcs. Villains can have an arc, but part of why they're a villain is they refuse to change. Yeah. So what characters their their whole thing is I am misunderstood. Right.
Speaker 2:The world misunderstands me. Mhmm. I will I will I want to be understood.
Speaker 1:Guy Fieri.
Speaker 2:Right. Switches bodies with
Speaker 1:The Joker. No. No.
Speaker 2:No. The Joker opens a series of restaurants.
Speaker 1:Yeah. So villains swapping with villains is what you're saying. Right?
Speaker 2:Yeah. And then so then they learn lessons. And this can be a goofier notion of a movie. They don't have to learn real lessons. They could learn like, ah, I see.
Speaker 2:The reason that I failed to rise to power was this. I shall now rule the world. Yeah.
Speaker 1:Okay. Before villain to villain for a moment here. Actually, you suggested something that triggered something else. So I I don't mind going villain to villain. So put that in the back of head and try to think of that as I'm saying this.
Speaker 1:A body swap movie, for example, if Buddy the Elf for Christmas is watching Die Hard and body swaps with John McClane so that Buddy the elf knows he's in Die Hard, the movie. Okay. And John McClain is now in a new world. Like, John McClain doesn't recognize that he is a movie character now in the real world. Essentially, like, body swapping with one character understanding, I'm in a fictional reality now.
Speaker 2:Sure.
Speaker 1:You know, taking Buddy and being the one who's suddenly in Die Hard, and it's like, you know, like, ho ho ho. Now I have a machine gun. Ho ho ho. Tickle. And then but John is it's sort of a a last action hero kind of scenario there Yeah.
Speaker 1:Where there's half the understanding of the real world versus the fictional world. Mhmm. Is there something to that?
Speaker 2:Would Buddy would John be swapped into Buddy before elf or after elf?
Speaker 1:Oh, I see. Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 2:Yeah. Or during elf?
Speaker 1:No. Let's say let's say it's it would the the sequel of elf shouldn't happen. Like, Buddy is like, you know, Merry Christmas, everyone. Let's watch a traditional Christmas movie. Die Hard.
Speaker 2:Die Hard.
Speaker 1:Die Hard. And then in watching it, oh. Oh. Oh, no. He's barefoot.
Speaker 1:I can't imagine what it'd be like if I was barefoot. My feet would tickle so much.
Speaker 2:One time I ran across the snow in in my bare feet. Oh, it was horrible.
Speaker 1:I love that.
Speaker 2:My feet were cold for a whole week.
Speaker 1:Meanwhile, John's out there with, like, buddy elves and weird, elf like superpowers. But then then what's the if if there's some sort of diehard scenario in Buddy's world is what it comes down to because John McClain is
Speaker 2:We're Yeah. We're so we're basically doubling up diehards?
Speaker 1:Yeah. I I think I don't know. This is this is Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 2:So well right. Because well, so in that scenario, seeing Will Ferrell as John McClain rescue his dad from terrorists who have taken over the publishing building.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:The thing that makes that ridiculous is that he's in his elf costume the whole time.
Speaker 1:Thieves have taken over blooming or what's Bloomingdale's where's the buddy work with with Jovie?
Speaker 2:I yep. Yeah. Macy's?
Speaker 1:Macy's. Mhmm. Yeah. In in Elf, he works at I'm trying to imagine the sign. It's just oh, it's Gimbus.
Speaker 1:Gimbus department store.
Speaker 2:Oh, there
Speaker 1:you Gimbal Gimbals.
Speaker 2:Gimbals is a
Speaker 1:real place.
Speaker 2:It was Gimbals.
Speaker 1:Yeah. Okay. There you go. So, like, some terrorists take over some thieves have taken over Gimbals. So, like, the bullet points of that, like so Buddy Buddy knows he's in Die Hard, but John McClane is just in Buddy the elf's body Yeah.
Speaker 1:Doing a Die Hard. This feels like a hat on a hat to just have, oh, it's Buddy the elf It doing a Die
Speaker 2:is. But that that might be okay.
Speaker 1:Yeah. So, like, he wakes up in Nakatomi.
Speaker 2:You there. What's with the getup? Your guess is as good as mine. Pow.
Speaker 1:But he knows the Die Hard script, so he's he's just gonna save the day with cheer. And he, like, makes friends with the henchmen, offering them
Speaker 2:Well, by by your premise, premise, he doesn't know Die Hard. It's his first time watching it.
Speaker 1:Oh, right. No. Yeah. That's true. That was my own thing.
Speaker 1:Or if he before oh, I didn't wanna be scared before I watched it, so I read the script before. So there's like Read the Okay. I'm ready.
Speaker 2:Read the script.
Speaker 1:I know you. You are henchman number two. I have a name, you know. Tell me tell me your name. No.
Speaker 1:I'm not liking this. This isn't this isn't this isn't clicking, Jim. We really crushed it with Dwight and Andy swapping.
Speaker 2:We kinda did.
Speaker 1:Okay. Let's go back to the villain swap here. Right? If we're looking at something like Voldemort switching with Palpatine, you know, that's two insane megalomaniacs. Yeah.
Speaker 1:It's
Speaker 2:just pretty parallel.
Speaker 1:But if Loki swaps with Scar, another dejected prince.
Speaker 2:I think what we're learning from this is that we don't watch diverse enough four quadrant movies. Well,
Speaker 1:what is a four quadrant movie, you might be asking? That's a it it appeals to men, women, young, and old.
Speaker 2:Okay.
Speaker 1:The four the four quadrants is male, female male, female, under 30, over 30. Those are the four quadrants. So, like, Star Wars, Avengers, Jurassic Park, Park, Back to the Future, to name some of my favorites. Mhmm. Basically, everything the MCU does, what we just saw with Superman.
Speaker 1:So, yeah, it's it's big blockbuster summer movie. The whole family can go see it kind of fair. Okay. Let's try this. Let's do a swap with a villain who has failed and a villain who has succeeded, which isn't gonna be easy because villains rarely win.
Speaker 1:So Palpatine succeeded to a point depending on where in the Star Wars timeline you go. Right? So if you're gonna look at episode three, he's he's at the he's he's won everything. And then swapping him with, like, lots of hugs from Toy Story four three. So Toy three.
Speaker 1:I don't know if that works either. Damn. We nailed it with Anne with you. You nailed it with Dwight and Andy.
Speaker 2:Only because the best swap ever was taken by the demand.
Speaker 1:Good. We were literally praising you again off mic there.
Speaker 2:But Barry. Barry Gold.
Speaker 1:Barry Gold. Okay. Berry makes me think of Berry. Mhmm. Walter White
Speaker 2:And Berry?
Speaker 1:No. No. No. Walter White and oh, no. Oh, yeah.
Speaker 1:Saul Goodman. Saul Goodman swapping with someone very pure of heart. Yeah. It doesn't work either because a lot of these a lot of these swap a roos, they either need to be the most outlandish thing like Paddington and John Wick, or they need to be enough in their own world that they can learn a lesson from Mhmm. From it.
Speaker 1:This is a brainstorm. Okay. So let let's just go over body swapping again. When you when you think about the the classic tropes of a body swap movie, there's some sort of swap mechanic. It's either mystical or silly, like a fortune cookie or lightning strikes or science I
Speaker 2:think it's more important to know the reason for it.
Speaker 1:Yeah. Yeah. I wish I wish I had your life. That's why a TV moment might work if someone's sitting there going like, man, look how good Kevin McAllister has it. I wish I lived in Home Alone.
Speaker 1:I guess that's a bad example. Mhmm. Look how good Buddy the elf has it. I wish I was in Buddy's life. Whoopsie doodle.
Speaker 1:Now I've swapped, and Buddy the elf is in way of the gun. Both characters swap. There's a realization moment where they, like, look in the mirror. They have that, like, oh my god. I'm not who I am anymore.
Speaker 1:And then it's a the slob is now like a type a and wrecks everything
Speaker 2:Mhmm.
Speaker 1:Or the parent is now the teen, the body to go to Freaky Friday. The tough guy is now the heel.
Speaker 2:Mhmm.
Speaker 1:And then hijinks always ensue out of that. Mhmm. So take there you go. Heel and heel and tough guy. Like, if we can think of, like, a tough guy character and swap him into something feeble, lessons can be learned in that walking miles in smaller shoes.
Speaker 1:Fish I said fish out of water earlier. Right? So there's gonna be awkwardly attempting the other person's job or social position. Oh, no. I'm wearing high heels now.
Speaker 1:I don't know how to. Wobbly doo doo. Wobbly doo doo. Oh, I'm a CEO, but I can't stop calling everyone dude. But my my dude like ways are are are saving the day here.
Speaker 1:And then and then we as we've discussed, there's always a lesson learned. There's some sort of insight of the struggles of the other person's life that helps them realize that it's not as that this isn't as easy as it as it looks. Mhmm. I should appreciate what I have, not what I wish I had. Yeah.
Speaker 1:Sometimes it's overhearing. So sometimes it's like, overhearing someone talk shit about the person in the body.
Speaker 2:Oh, sure.
Speaker 1:Like if if if, Miranda's, like, overhears people talking shit about Vader. No. No. No. That would that's not how that would work.
Speaker 1:It'd be like
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Overhear Miranda overhearing people talking about Miranda. But that's not how that works because they're swapping worlds. And what else? What else are some other tropes, like doing something better? Like in Freaky Friday, oh, look, I can play the guitar because because I because teen me could play guitar, adult me is not playing guitar.
Speaker 1:Oh, this is cool. I wish I knew how to do this. Seeing myself up there play the guitar. Romantic complications. Sure.
Speaker 1:We kinda touched on that with April realizing Andy's or Dwight Mhmm. We didn't have, like, Angela falling for Angela coming on to to Dwight Mhmm. And be like, I like everything you're doing right now. No. No.
Speaker 1:She wouldn't because he's, like, suit he's like, I don't like how I don't like how what a bad boy you've become. Meet me downstairs. There's usually like a ticking clock element of like, if we don't switch back, then we're never gonna switch back. And then like a yeah. The lesson the final lesson.
Speaker 1:Like the the swap only reverses once the characters have grown. Right? I'm trying I'm just literally walking through Freaky Friday right now and checking off the boxes of the movie. And I think I've covered I think that covers it all. And now, I don't know if it was necessary for me to do that an hour and fifteen minutes into the episode.
Speaker 1:But with all that said, I think we already we already had that. It's like knowing that they swap isn't just a funny goofy thing. There needs to be a reason there's something gained by swapping the two of them.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Alright. James Bond and
Speaker 2:Are we in the eleventh hour yet?
Speaker 1:We we have we have some time here. We've Okay. We've we've done something fun here. I think that Andy and Dwight, we beat that pretty quickly.
Speaker 2:Okay.
Speaker 1:Why do you ask?
Speaker 2:Because when when we're we're almost out of time, I'm gonna pull the rip cord, and we're just gonna do Vogue one.
Speaker 1:You know what? We're just gonna do Vogue one.
Speaker 2:Okay. Let's beat it out then. Yeah. Beat it.
Speaker 1:Well, I'll I'll say this before we move into this. This is a man, we this is a couple of really tough demands this season. Yeah. Maybe that's more of, like, a post mortem conversation, like, decompress after the episode.
Speaker 2:In instead of right in the middle of the demand.
Speaker 1:Right in middle of demand. But this is this is a test of the genre because it's Sure. It's fun to sit here and go, this character and this character, here are a couple reasons why that's funny. But then to, like, really strip it down to its parts and go, like, this is this is how this is gonna work. So, yeah.
Speaker 1:So, Barry, I I you've I know this is probably meant to be, like, a fun, like, wouldn't have just swept two swap two things and have a good time with it. Yeah. But you've you're at what you're Like,
Speaker 2:Kermit and Luke Skywalker.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Okay. Do a Muppet like you had suggested.
Speaker 1:Not too no. Yeah. There you go. Boom. You know, Morpheus and Gandalf.
Speaker 1:Okay. How's that swap around there? Ace Ventura someone keeps editing Ace Ventura into other movies like Lord of the Rings and Blueprints.
Speaker 2:I've seen a whole bunch of Frank Reynolds Yeah. In movies from from It's Always Sunny into the
Speaker 1:Oh, yeah.
Speaker 2:Yeah. Being put in the in the stuff.
Speaker 1:Okay. So Vogue one. Let's let's let's talk about this. Let's talk about Vogue one. Mhmm.
Speaker 1:Miranda Priestley and Darth Vader swap spots. Okay? Yep. Go.
Speaker 2:It's hilarious. Now
Speaker 1:which which Darth Vader?
Speaker 2:Like, are we talking 56. Okay. 456 Darth Vader.
Speaker 1:You yeah. So let's say Empire Strikes Back Darth Vader.
Speaker 2:Although the title is Vogue One, should it be Darth Vader during Rogue One?
Speaker 1:Let's say let's say pre Vogue we
Speaker 2:see we see so Miranda Priestly as Darth Vader, we get everything Darth Vader was doing during Rogue One up to his appearance. So they they switch back going into where he finally appears in the movie.
Speaker 1:Yeah. Okay. Sure. So he that's why he's in the movie so little. Yes.
Speaker 1:And that's why Don't joke on your ambitions. Yeah. That sounds like something he'd say it. Right? This this feels like a voice that would say that.
Speaker 1:This feels like a voice that would say that. Right? I'm gonna try it. Don't joke on your ambitions, Crennic. Yeah.
Speaker 1:Nah. That's not that that's not Miranda. Okay. So okay.
Speaker 2:I can't remember the thing she kept saying to needle what's her name?
Speaker 1:Anne Hathaway's character. She just gives, like, may the fierce be with you.
Speaker 2:No. No. Like, what she actually said in Devil Wears Prada. There was a
Speaker 1:Although may the fierce be with you, I'm pretty proud of pulling
Speaker 2:that out. Out of nowhere, that is pretty good.
Speaker 1:So so Darth Vader wakes up in the early two thousands Manhattan apartment Yep. And immediately starts, like, tearing up the, like, woah. Oh, No. Wait.
Speaker 2:No. It'd be Miranda's voice.
Speaker 1:Sees a 30 year old woman in a robe and is just like
Speaker 2:Where am I? What's happening? This is this And her I guess her assistant shows up. Yeah. You're you're late for you're you're late for your your first set of meetings this morning.
Speaker 1:Commands.
Speaker 2:My meetings.
Speaker 1:Yeah. Take take me to my meetings. Mhmm. She doesn't sound much different actually because she's very this very clipped authoritarian tone. Mhmm.
Speaker 1:Take me to my meetings and, like, riding in a limousine looking around like
Speaker 2:interesting Getting a handle of who am I again?
Speaker 1:Tell me who I am again. You are Uh-uh. Priestley, the
Speaker 2:editor in
Speaker 1:chief of Vogue magazine?
Speaker 2:The the first act would be mostly the the the shenanigans of of figuring out their their new life.
Speaker 1:Yeah. Starts wearing black?
Speaker 2:Yes. And then the second act for Darth Vader as Miranda would be running into trouble, running into trouble with clients Mhmm. Wanting to do what she says. Like second guessing her.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Because Miranda slash Darth Vader, they're not used to being second guessed.
Speaker 1:Yeah. The but but also understanding that trying to trying to blend in, realizing the force is gone, only dealing with I I am someone with authority, so I know that. I don't I can't fight. Mhmm. Maybe understanding the elegance or, like, enjoying the a more civilized empire that is the fashion world, like realizing there's a hierarchy here.
Speaker 2:Yeah. I I feel like Darth Vader would catch on to that very quickly, and it would be a matter of his lack of mastery of that realm.
Speaker 1:Mhmm.
Speaker 2:That that's sort of what the the the that would that's what would cause trouble from the first into second act is enough players around them start realizing something's wrong with Miranda. Miranda's not acting normal, and that's when, right, the the sharks start circling. Like, oh, maybe we can because it's cutthroat politicking, backstabbery. So they
Speaker 1:So they're be starting a coup? What? Are they gonna be, like
Speaker 2:Not not a full coup, but, like like, literally, the little rebellions start. And so Darth Vader has to quickly reestablish but basically, the second act is is losing losing his authority in in his new the empire he finds himself in, the fashion empire.
Speaker 1:So like, what is
Speaker 2:And so the Emily?
Speaker 1:What is what is, sorry. I'm gonna remember. Sure. The worst Prada. Go ahead.
Speaker 2:The so then, right, coming out of the second act and and going to the third is
Speaker 1:Yeah. Emily was scared. Her name was Emily. Go ahead.
Speaker 2:Darth Miranda basically has to give themselves slash take Emily Mhmm. Or one or two other characters as his confidantes to help him montage what he needs to know about about the fashion world.
Speaker 1:I need I
Speaker 2:So in the third act, he he goes into these meetings again. He or he reestablishes me because he lose in the second act, he loses a bunch of clients. Mhmm. And to the point that we'll say the board is considering getting rid of Miranda. I don't know if that was how that was set up or if Miranda was at the top.
Speaker 2:And so Darth Miranda has to basically reestablish authority. Doesn't necessarily have to prove prove knowledge of fashion enough to which and then a lot of it is is Darth Vader's confidence Yeah. In these things. But then
Speaker 1:This is talking about
Speaker 2:them in a way Mhmm. That gets the people that she is presenting to Mhmm. To be like, yes.
Speaker 1:Yeah. This is not the first rebellion or resistance Oh, there you are. Squashed. So it's first trying to figure out, okay, what's this world I'm in? Trying to impose authority.
Speaker 2:Mhmm.
Speaker 1:As he once knew it in her body, failing at that, realizing people are undermining her. He's he's okay. I need to know how I think I know how this works. Okay. I need to apply as much as I can from my old my previous existence to this and and shut this shit down.
Speaker 1:Yeah. I need to I need to stop this resistance. I need to control the fashion world. I need to just treat this as the rebellion that is. Like, literally, I may not be able to force choke someone, but I will choke a bitch.
Speaker 2:So there so there's an arc here, but I don't know what lesson Darth Vader learns.
Speaker 1:If if especially if we have to set Darth Vader to the status quo of new hope Darth Vader or hope one Darth Vader. Yeah. I don't know if there is any lesson learned other than
Speaker 2:And maybe maybe that's okay. Yeah. Because then let's flip now. Yeah. Miranda wakes up in the body of this evil cyborg.
Speaker 1:Right. So yeah. So wakes up in the tank, like the Bacta tank. Sure. It's like screams, oh, and you know what?
Speaker 1:Here's an opportunity for we can still hear inner monologue. Like, this is where I know that you had thought because you were mistaken for Sex and the City, it totally works. If Meryl Streep is internally monologuing, we get a lot more mileage out of, like, what the hell is this? Where am I? Like, getting the inner thought process of like, oh, I have powers.
Speaker 1:Apparently, if I move my hand like this.
Speaker 2:I I don't think no. I I think we can get a lot of that without Okay. Without that. I don't know What
Speaker 1:in God's name am I wearing a cape?
Speaker 2:Sort of. Right?
Speaker 1:Because Because of helmets.
Speaker 2:Because sorry. Steve.
Speaker 1:Oh, because of bot brutalism.
Speaker 2:Because basically bots are are helping to dress Darth Vader. Right?
Speaker 1:Is there
Speaker 2:She she was
Speaker 1:In in The Devil Wears Prada, Stanley Tucci's character, it's like Jarvis or
Speaker 2:It's not it's yeah.
Speaker 1:It's like Nigel? Okay. Anyway, Stanley Tucci at some point in The Devil Wears Prada tells Anne Hathew, Andy, says, oh, you've crossed over to the dark side. So there is a potential to build out Miranda, Invader's body with the knowledge that I'm in Star Wars.
Speaker 2:Sure.
Speaker 1:You.
Speaker 2:No. No. That's okay. So so Vader Priestly is is get gets is dressed by bots. Yeah.
Speaker 2:Right? So she can be questioning the the this the whole time and and that's fine. It can Mhmm. Actually, what we could do, we could invent you're gonna know Star Wars way better than I am and you're gonna know what Darth Vader looked like pre Rogue One. Okay.
Speaker 2:Darth Vader might not look might not have the outfit Darth Vader has
Speaker 1:The at
Speaker 2:the end of or during Rogue One.
Speaker 1:The accoutrement that is
Speaker 2:Oh, no. It's established in in episode three. There is well, no. He didn't change his style in He did. Thirty years.
Speaker 1:He did. He did. There's there's buttons and dials swapped on the the costume, but it's That's not an issue.
Speaker 2:Yeah. Yeah. Dang. Dang. I was almost hoping that we could have we could have Miranda
Speaker 1:signed Doctor. Chili's costume. Yeah. I would never choose a cape. Having a moment of her glaring at Tarkin, so, like and real or glaring at someone, and suddenly, there's, like and the person's, like Miranda realize, like
Speaker 2:Realize that she has powers Did at
Speaker 1:I? Did I? Did I just choke you without touching? Oh my oh oh, yes. I can use this.
Speaker 1:Having that that self realization moment. Do you think do you think she's she's she might be the type of character to be like, oh, this is one of those body swap empathetic art genre stories. Fantastic.
Speaker 2:You wanna get meta and have her realize?
Speaker 1:Maybe. Don't know. I'm I'm I I
Speaker 2:think that doesn't appeal to me as is with this character also, don't think is the type of character too meta like that.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:I think what she would realize or what what her arc is, what she's learning, what she's fighting against Mhmm. Is so Miranda has has always been a warrior under siege, but never had an outright rebellion. Mhmm. Right? Because she's in in she's always basically been in charge.
Speaker 1:Right.
Speaker 2:Right. And she she she No one nips any rebellion in the bud.
Speaker 1:No one would dare.
Speaker 2:And this is a different type of battle. Right? She she is now a a literal well, she's not the emperor, but she's she's a literal general. Mhmm.
Speaker 1:In an a war Yeah. Against a poorly dressed ragtag group of
Speaker 2:scruggles. That you included the poorly dressed. But, basically, the lessons she's going to learn Mhmm. Is not not that fashion isn't everything. Mhmm.
Speaker 2:Somehow her fashion knowledge needs to ideally help inform her on how to actually fight this rebellion that gets Darth Vader Mhmm. On the track of the rebels. Right? Right. If this is pre Rogue One.
Speaker 1:Well, we're talking about learning lessons. It doesn't necessarily mean it have to be learned learned good lessons. Correct. Because Vader can't change if we're literally popping to him in between. Mhmm.
Speaker 1:Randwick, we can do anything she wants. She does not change in The Devil Wears Prada. No. Like, she she does reveal that she can change in that movie. She chooses not to.
Speaker 1:Like, she does give a hint of empathy that she does have it within her to grow and change. She does show weakness to Andy at one point in the film and then throws it all away to keep keep her position
Speaker 2:Sure.
Speaker 1:In the world. So she doesn't fundamentally change.
Speaker 2:No.
Speaker 1:But she demonstrates at least self awareness.
Speaker 2:I'm thinking the lesson the lesson that she learns isn't one isn't one of how to be a nicer, better, well rounded person. It's she learns the lesson of war. She learn she learns to be more brutal.
Speaker 1:Yeah. Like, at first, she could even be like a, like, the death Star. She's like, Death Star. You could wow. That's isn't that a little on the nose there?
Speaker 1:It's a that's a that's an over designed metaphor. Have we thought about the gray? We've committed to gray. Not much of a star. Nor the moon.
Speaker 1:No. But to to to actually having learn learn the lessons of war. Yeah. Does she does she ultimately, like, leave Vader in that position of, like, I will I will crush the rebellion at all costs that he steps right back into without missing a beat?
Speaker 2:Yeah. I I think so. And that's why she then goes back to her life
Speaker 1:Mhmm.
Speaker 2:And has the commits to the the same sort of cut throat attitude. Mhmm.
Speaker 1:Yeah. Yeah. This is so silly.
Speaker 2:Actually, what if what if it's specifically we set up a few characters, a few lieutenants who are they're doing what's happening what's currently happening to Vader. Mhmm. They smelled blood in the water. They're like, oh, something's wrong wrong with Miranda. Mhmm.
Speaker 2:We're gonna circle and try to take her out to get her
Speaker 1:is happening with Vader where people like something's
Speaker 2:Lieutenants are are vie like, they're trying to undermine Vader and they're they're they're doing these things.
Speaker 1:May maybe Miranda has Vader subtly may she does, like, mission adjustment that limits casualties. Like, that shows that that slight bit of, like, no. We should do it this way. It's like, that was an odd bit of empathy from Weakness, weakness, pounce, pounce.
Speaker 2:Sure. Something like that. Yeah.
Speaker 1:We'll do a Valkyrie honor or him. Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 2:And so then her arc is similar, albeit not in the not on the the the the art board of of fashion and and stuff or on on the runway of fashion and stuff. It's instead in the literal battlefield. Like, maybe Miranda has to get real cutthroat and she has like, there's a point where one of these lieutenants, she's like, you go. I want you to lead that charge.
Speaker 1:Mhmm.
Speaker 2:Me. Me, sir.
Speaker 1:Me, sir. Yeah.
Speaker 2:But I I thought I was gonna command from here on the star destroyer where where I can best coordinate tactics.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:I can do that. You should be on the battlefield. You deserve the glory. Okay. Basically sent him to die.
Speaker 1:Yeah. Yeah. Doesn't even realize she has a lightsaber. Like, never pulls it out.
Speaker 2:Yeah. It's this.
Speaker 1:God, man. If cracks still made parody video subs up having a devil wears like, a let's see. A devil wears Prada. A Sith a the Sith wears Prada. The Darth wears Prada.
Speaker 2:Sure.
Speaker 1:The devil wears Vader. The Vader Wears Prada. There we go. Probably that. The Vader Wears Prada.
Speaker 1:Anyway, having that, like, just do it Vogue one.
Speaker 2:It would just be Vogue one. It's Vogue
Speaker 1:Having having a the devil wears Prada play out in on the Death Star. It's sort of like the undercover boss that Adam Driver did as Kylo Ren on Saturday Night Live. Yeah. If you've never seen that, it's very, very funny.
Speaker 2:So, I mean, we set this during Rogue Rogue One. So maybe
Speaker 1:Just before Rogue One.
Speaker 2:Just before Rogue One. So we don't really have the my initial notion was the parallel was going to be they each have someone that they are ultimately training up that is a threat to them. Darth has Luke. Darth Vader has Luke, and Miranda has Andy. Andy.
Speaker 1:Mhmm. And they both
Speaker 2:they both essentially want to to train them. They they essentially are training them
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:And will ultimately be be replaced by them. But doing an earlier Vader doesn't allow that parallel.
Speaker 1:Right. But having, you know, canon you can re canonize characters all the time. Having the the inquisitors were added so you could do stuff like this. Having Moses Ingram, I think that was who played the sister in Obi Wan being someone that is, like, thinks she's subjugating herself to Vader for his favor and then ultimately gets killed by him. Should have been killed by him.
Speaker 1:That show had its problems. Yeah. I think Myranda waking up, assuming control of a star destroyer with, like, her precision, realizing she has force powers and coming to let not she's not corrupted by the power. She just truly embraces the dark side. She's like
Speaker 2:Kind of. Yeah.
Speaker 1:And then and being able to take that back with her to be cold as to be the ice queen back in Manhattan when she gets there. Mhmm. Right. The the the lessons learned are backlash.
Speaker 2:It would be really fun to have she wakes up, Emily drops something, and she reaches out to force choke. What what what are you what are you doing, miss Priestley? Nothing.
Speaker 1:Nothing.
Speaker 2:Clean that up. Clean
Speaker 1:that up. And then the then the end of the movie. And then Vader returns to the bacta tank and is like, maybe maybe a cape isn't the best idea.
Speaker 2:Why does no no. No. I disagree. What's wrong with capes? I think Incredibles started this fun joke that capes are bad.
Speaker 1:I'm just picking a fashion thing.
Speaker 2:No. I know. But capes have been shattered for, like, twenty
Speaker 1:years I refuse to shit on a And
Speaker 2:the thing is
Speaker 1:I won't shit on a cape. I won't even wipe with a cape.
Speaker 2:I kind of understand back when I was young and rebellious. Yeah. Capes are stupid because it's a sign of sort of the status quo
Speaker 1:Right.
Speaker 2:Of things. No. Capes are cool and fun.
Speaker 1:You know who you know the first cape haters? You know who came along and said capes are are no good?
Speaker 2:Who's
Speaker 1:that? Stan Lee and Jack Kirby.
Speaker 2:What? Because for thirty years Oh, those sons. For thirty years
Speaker 1:DC had all these caped heroes like Batman and Superman and Green Lantern. And then and then Jack Kirby and Stan Lee came along and were like, you know what? No capes. We'll give one guy with a cape Thor. That's it.
Speaker 2:That's not true. They got capes all over the place. Doctor Doom has a capes. Doctor Strange has a cape. Really?
Speaker 2:You're gonna yeah. We're gonna do that. We're gonna do that game. You threw me off. The frigging oh my god.
Speaker 2:Really sorry. I can't remember his name. Frigging Uatu has a cape?
Speaker 1:I I
Speaker 2:Magneto has a cape? I'm a keep going.
Speaker 1:No capes. The Fantastic Four didn't have them.
Speaker 2:That's true.
Speaker 1:Doctor Doom wasn't in the first book.
Speaker 2:Okay. No capes. So because it's not in the first book? They they're in the
Speaker 1:What do you know about fashion? May the fierce be with you. Okay. So invader and Miranda go back to their world. This would be a wonderfully silly there there's an issue of Ultimate Spider Man where Peter and Wolverine swap.
Speaker 1:And Oh, he's there? The comic opens with Brian Michael Bendis and Mark Begley, the writer and the artist. Uh-huh. And it's and it's is doing an editorial note to start the comic.
Speaker 2:Okay.
Speaker 1:And it's Bendis saying, hello, everyone. You're about to read a two part story. Mark, tell tell them what you've done. No. I don't wanna.
Speaker 1:Mark, tell them what you've done. I just said it would be funny if they Freaky Fridayed, and and now Brian's making me draw it. And so the whole opening of it was Ben the same, like, is happening because because of this. And then they do it, and then it's and then they go back, and have the whole thing and it's so silly because Peter actually, like, spikes his hair up like Wolverine. It's very very silly.
Speaker 1:And then Ben is saying, like, you got that out of your system. You happy now?
Speaker 2:No. That's funny.
Speaker 1:So all that said, Vogue one, ladies and gentlemen. Can you think of an Andy and Dwight title? Because if you can, I'll let you do that right now because I think what I'm gonna do is I think we're gonna wrap the episode up here. I know this wasn't like
Speaker 2:Parks and Rec, but Rec, w r e c c k.
Speaker 1:Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 2:That's terrible.
Speaker 1:Parks and Parks and Shroop, Shroop Farms, Shroop Farms and Recreation. That's okay. We don't have to do that. Okay. Barry, we had some brainstorming here.
Speaker 1:I think, at the very least, we we beat out Rogue Vogue One for you in a fun way. I think the I really do think the Dwight Andy one is probably the best one we came up with that it kinda like naturally unfolded pretty pretty elegantly. But I now throw it to you, Barry. How did we do? You gotta let us know.
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Speaker 2:I but it was it was fun to run to the other chair, and then actually, I could read this. So I'm gonna a little little bit inside baseball making the sausage. We were in the middle of a bit Mhmm. As you probably know because you were listening to the podcast, you, the audience. And then the computer had a thing that went down, so we basically had to basically, the computer didn't like our bit.
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Speaker 2:The computer put us back in our proper bodies.
Speaker 1:Yeah. Literally Lessons learned. Yeah. We did. We did learn a few lessons there.
Speaker 2:TC should handle the computer.
Speaker 1:And and I hope that you all learned some lessons as well. Thank So you all for listening. We will be back again soon to, I don't know, have some fun. Right? Yep.
Speaker 1:Who knows what's gonna happen next? But thank you for another great demand and and, for those who have given us your time and putting your ears on this. So, yeah, Jim.
Speaker 2:Next time, the demand is the that was terrible. Yeah. No. I got nothing. I got goodbye.
Speaker 2:Thank you.
Speaker 1:Shaking my head.
Speaker 2:Goodbye. Thank you. See you on the Who
Speaker 1:are I don't even know who you are.
Speaker 2:Goodbye. Thank you. See you on the Internet.
Speaker 1:Wait a minute. That's not what Jim would say. Force joke. Force joke. Force joke.
Speaker 1:I knew it. You're so random priestly.